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Speaker 1: So the NBA season starts tonight, the West has completely

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Speaker 1: separated from the East. The West, the top four to

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Speaker 1: five teams in the West arguably are better than the

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Speaker 1: best team in the East. Now, if Jason Tatum comes

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Speaker 1: back and plays this year, most doubt it. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be shocked in Game sixty five or something. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all these pro athletes in their prime physically get healthier

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Speaker 1: faster than we predict. If Jason Tatum came back, then

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Speaker 1: I think Boston's a top four team in the league.

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Speaker 1: Maybe top three Nix aren't. But I thought, let's just

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Speaker 1: put it out there. These are my five bold NBA predictions.

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Speaker 1: I hit in the couple last year, missed in a couple.

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Speaker 1: Number one OKC despite the fact they're an overwhelming favorite

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Speaker 1: in the Desert will not win. They will not repeat

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Speaker 1: as champions. The West is too deep. Sga played ninety

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Speaker 1: nine games last year, second year in a row.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't miss games.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Williams coming off an injury between Minnesota and Denver,

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Speaker 1: Between the Lakers and Dallas, I think the West is

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Speaker 1: too deep. I don't buy of the twenty six previous

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Speaker 1: teams to win sixty four plus games in a season,

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Speaker 1: twenty five won fewer games the following season, so I

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Speaker 1: don't think they'll get home court advantage, which I think

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Speaker 1: in the West matters because these teams you're on the

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Speaker 1: margins here, they're all very good. So Number one ok

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Speaker 1: S does not repeat. Number two Luca wins his first

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Speaker 1: career MVP, so it's going to be a great story,

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Speaker 1: and part of winning MVP is the narrative. Skinny Luca

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Speaker 1: committed Luca. Lakers all in on Luca Lebron starting the

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Speaker 1: season in recovery. His ball usage will go back to

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Speaker 1: being number one in the league. Obviously, Austin Reeves is

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Speaker 1: never going to take the ball out of his hands

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Speaker 1: in big spaces.

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to lead.

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Speaker 1: The NBA in scoring you know he was a dunker,

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Speaker 1: played downhill early, got a little husky, only had one

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Speaker 1: dunk last year. I think the best Luca returns. He's motivated,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers are all in. I think JJ Reddick is

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Speaker 1: an above average offensive coach. He'll get the ball to

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Speaker 1: him in the right spots. Luca becomes MVP. My surprise

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Speaker 1: team out West number three Cooper Flag plays point guard

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Speaker 1: and Dallas makes the Western Conference Final. Best front court

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Speaker 1: by a mile in the NBA, Derek Lively, Daniel Gafford,

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Speaker 1: a D Washington. They got great size. Kyrie Irving probably

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Speaker 1: but I think Cooper Flag is gonna walk in when

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year going away. I just I think

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Speaker 1: this is one of those deals they fell apart last year.

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Speaker 3: I love their size.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody defensively quite can stack the size

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Speaker 1: face the t Wolves in the Western Conference Finals, that

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Speaker 1: would be my guess or Denver, but it's not. It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be the Golden State Warriors because my number

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Speaker 1: four bold prediction the Warriors missed the playoffs. It is

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Speaker 1: the second oldest team in the NBA. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: They have one playoff series went over the last two years.

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Speaker 3: They've been hobbled.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to give up Pods in a trade deal.

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Speaker 1: They're willing to give up Kaminga. But what are you

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Speaker 1: go all in on multiple draft picks, Pods and Cominga,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting a star that can accompany Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: and Pods is what he is to this point in

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Speaker 3: He's got a little Klay Thompson. But I mean, this

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Speaker 1: Team that brought in Al Horford. I love Al Horford.

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Speaker 1: That's not the answer. They just got older and number

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Speaker 1: Cavs don't trust him. Last season they had key injuries

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Speaker 1: to Franz Wagner, Paulo Boncaro, Jalen Suggs. They were a

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Speaker 1: not shoot threes. They bring in Desmond Vane from Memphis,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was a super smart move. This is

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Speaker 1: a you got a bunch of dudes entering their prime.

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Speaker 1: The East is weak and I like Orlando a lot.

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Speaker 1: Now again, they've been back to back first round exits,

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Speaker 1: I think the East, I'm not the East has been

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Speaker 1: without Halliburton in Indiana and without Jason Tatum, it is

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Speaker 3: You can say what about the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns and Jalen Brunson are not good on

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Speaker 1: the floor together, both suboptimal defensive players. They went from

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Speaker 1: Tips to Mike Brown. Many think they won't be as

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Speaker 1: good coaching. I think the Knicks last year were a

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Speaker 1: wonderful story, but what have they done to elevate themselves?

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Speaker 3: And again, if you have Carl Anthony.

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Speaker 1: Towns your second best offensive player on the floor, with

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson your lead offensive player, we know how that

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Speaker 1: the pick and roll. The best thing for the Knicks

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Speaker 1: is Jason Tatum and Halliburton won't play. If they did,

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Speaker 1: I would think less.

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Speaker 4: Of the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: I'm on Orlando in a very very weak Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 3: Jay Mac, I know you've got to you got some hot,

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Speaker 3: hot takes. I love this.

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Speaker 4: I know we're happy the NBA is back.

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Speaker 5: Listen, you forgot the Knicks are gonna be trading for

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Speaker 3: So then nix of the fine in these I am

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Speaker 3: curious this OKC stuff.

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Speaker 5: Are you surprised that there is no use for Okac

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Speaker 5: all anybody's talking about in the eve of the NBA season?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Can you hear what Lebron said in that in that

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Speaker 5: meeting like four years ago in a book, like, nobody's

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Speaker 5: talking about SGA and Okac?

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Speaker 3: Nobody with you.

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Speaker 1: The new Adam Silver NBA is you can't stack too

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Speaker 1: many good players. Chet Holmgren so far has been a

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Speaker 1: SGA is like a pitcher that's pitched three hundred innings

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Speaker 1: in back to back years. And they brought everybody back

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Speaker 1: a few years ago Tampa on the Super Bowl, remember that,

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Speaker 1: And they brought everybody back. Yeah, and then they the

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Speaker 3: You need a new energy every year. You need a

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Speaker 1: You need to tweak and tweak and tweak, and I

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Speaker 1: kind of feel like the Knicks, they'll be the same team,

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Speaker 1: you'll be good, but they're not gonna have home court advantage.

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Speaker 1: I think Minnesota will be better and keeps getting better.

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Speaker 1: I think the Lakers are probably gonna be better. I

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Speaker 1: Plus Kloper fact, So Dallas better, Minnesota better, Lakers better.

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Speaker 1: I think the West is just I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Golden State is gonna make the playoffs. But Golden

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Speaker 1: State they're old, but Buddy healed and Steph and Draymont

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Speaker 1: they'll make the playoffs. They could be a three seed

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Speaker 4: And that's possible.

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Speaker 5: You didn't mention once the team that I have winning

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Speaker 5: the NBA title, and that's the Houston Rockets, Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 2: This team is stacked.

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Speaker 5: Did you see tonight They're gonna be starting their starting

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Speaker 5: lineup as six, seven and up. Kevin Durant's gonna play

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Speaker 5: shooting guard. This is a new NBA. There's a bunch

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Speaker 5: of teams are going big now. The whole guard era

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Speaker 4: I think it is.

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Speaker 3: He a good takes Colin.

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Speaker 6: I like it.

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Speaker 4: I'm fired up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Houston's gonna be fine. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna win the West. I just have

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Speaker 1: Dallas in the Western Conference finals. Because usually this is

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Speaker 1: the way it works in sports, the media, myself included,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's focused on Houston and Dallas is like, now,

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Speaker 1: can go big if Houston wants to go big. Kd

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I look at Dallas and nobody's paying attention. First of all,

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it is.

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Speaker 1: It is like the SEC five years ago before, like Oregon, Washington, USC,

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Speaker 4: I like your Orlando call.

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Speaker 3: That's that's kind of bold.

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Speaker 4: I like that a lot. Right now.

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Speaker 3: The one team that added a shooter, we don't really

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Speaker 5: I know you're out on this guy, Joelle embiid Sixers

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Speaker 5: when they're healthy, and assuming they will be, they could

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Speaker 5: be dangerous only because there's no Boston or no Indiana

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Speaker 5: on the Sixers. They've got some young guys calling your

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Speaker 5: guy Tyrese Maxey. He was basically your your Jaden Daniels,

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Speaker 5: remember you loved him and I was like, Dad, plump

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Speaker 5: the brakes. Terre's Maxie's a bowler. And they got some

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Speaker 5: young guys. I like the Sixers a little bit this year.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was funny watching the Mariners last night.

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Speaker 1: And if you watch Aaron Boone, Dave Roberts, Dan Wilson

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Speaker 1: get clobbered by the baseball the seamheads, and the truth

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Speaker 1: is now major league managers have been muted, even Aaron Boone,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what his salary is but Dave Roberts,

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Speaker 1: we pay college football coaches double what we pay major

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Speaker 1: league in major markets like Dodger, Astro, Atlanta, New York markets,

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Speaker 1: and so as I watch these managers, people always complain

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Speaker 1: about the managers. And it's always the same thing, which

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Speaker 1: is your two player friendly? You know you need to

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Speaker 1: pull the picture you need It's always like, when are

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Speaker 1: you pulling the picture? You have to be pro player.

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Speaker 1: As a major league manager these days, you don't have

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Speaker 1: the power. You don't have the salary power. The owners

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Speaker 1: are billionaires now it's a rounding air to fire manager.

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Speaker 1: You don't have the salary power. The analytic crew upstairs

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Speaker 1: gives you the batting lineup and all the players know it.

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Speaker 1: So Dan Wilson last night, I think it's a legitimate

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Speaker 1: rare time I would say that's a mistake. George Springer

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Speaker 1: world you wanted to face. But it is interesting all

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Speaker 2: the top ten NFL teams according to College number ten.

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Speaker 3: I put them in this morning.

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Speaker 1: I bounced the Seahawks out because after those four giveaways,

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Speaker 3: Seattle's eleven. I put New England in at ten. They

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Speaker 1: Four straight wins, top ten offense, top five scoring defense.

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Speaker 3: Mike Vrable.

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Speaker 1: It may not be suffocating if they face them all

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Speaker 1: They leave the NFL in big plays, no Puka, no problem.

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Speaker 1: I had him in last night when I texted Kyle

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Speaker 3: That was awful. Take him out.

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Speaker 4: I got something for you, Colin hold On. I was listening.

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Speaker 7: I don't speak French, but let's see if I can

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Speaker 7: do this in real time. Jolie Ladd, is I get

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Speaker 4: That's what you were looking for. I googled it for you.

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Speaker 7: There you go, pal uh, pretty yet ugly.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like your Broncos take.

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Speaker 7: Did you compare bow Nicks to Patrick Malmes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Did that happen?

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Speaker 1: I mean who else could take nineteen nothing deficit?

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Speaker 3: Greatest quarter for a quarterback ever? I stand, I die

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Speaker 7: So all right, a few things that listen. It is

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Speaker 7: away from him there, But I was too busy googling,

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Speaker 7: Jolie Ladd to fact that you said he has eleven

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Speaker 4: That would mean they've all come when.

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Speaker 7: He's trailing at least eleven batting touchdowns total.

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Speaker 4: That Bart's not great.

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Speaker 7: In the last The Broncos are really weird because their

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Speaker 4: The Jets, and the Giants.

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Speaker 7: I know they have thirteen points in the first three

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Speaker 7: The other weird thing about BO is nothing gives you

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Speaker 7: I I want to talk about the Bills in the Seahawks,

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Speaker 7: but can I just ask you one question.

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Speaker 4: About the Chiefs?

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Speaker 3: Sure, just one?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, can we revisit a bit that the dynasty phase

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Speaker 7: of my team. I had to deal with a lot

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Speaker 4: That this was.

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Speaker 7: You know, they'll still be good, but they're just not

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Speaker 7: Think you feel like the gap between them and whomever

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Speaker 4: That's all that. Why are the Bills not in there?

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Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, they can't they can't defend the run,

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Speaker 3: You got to defend the run.

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Speaker 1: You otherwise you watch the game, like last night, Baker

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Speaker 3: And Seattle makes too many mistakes. Last night was a mess.

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Speaker 7: So Seattle's interesting because last night was ugly.

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Speaker 3: Oh but that.

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Speaker 7: Defense was since think the Seattle offense kept saying to Houston,

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Speaker 4: It's one in the morning on the East Coast.

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Speaker 7: This is outrageously the late game at least make it interesting,

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Speaker 4: His scheme is. And I didn't see Colin.

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Speaker 7: You watched more college football than me, so I'll defer

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Speaker 4: This is a revelation.

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Speaker 7: He might be the best receiver in football.

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Speaker 4: I am It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: And so I think Seattle is right now because of

442
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Speaker 7: the injuries, better than the Niners. I'm impressed by the Niners.

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Speaker 7: I think Seattle's better.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. So I was saying this about Williams.

445
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Speaker 1: Body language matters. It's why I turned on Jay Cutler

446
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Speaker 1: early in his career.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, ugh, I don't like his body language.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, who I've defended forever, don't always love his

449
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: body language. It's better this year. In fairness, Kyler's better

450
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Speaker 1: this year. He's more engaged with a team. But it

451
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Speaker 1: does matter. Chicago's run game is excellent. They spend a

452
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Speaker 1: lot of money in the interior a line of texcellent.

453
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Speaker 1: The defense is taking them all away. Watching Ben Johnson's

454
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Speaker 1: face and body language when Caleb throws it in completion

455
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Speaker 1: is borderline discouragement, bordering on disgust. Like these guys, I

456
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Speaker 1: watch Ben Johnson. You can't tell me he's happy with

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Speaker 1: Caleb right now?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that's fair, And I don't listen.

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Speaker 7: I think everybody has to all what we owe the

461
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Speaker 7: audience is. No matter what we want to happen or

462
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Speaker 7: what we said we thought, what would happen is evaluate

463
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Speaker 7: things as they do happen. And I'm, you know, a

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Speaker 7: big Caleb guy. I've cooled a bit, you know, over

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Speaker 7: the last nine months. I no longer you know. I

466
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Speaker 7: did pick him to go to the super Bowl as

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Speaker 7: a rookie. So I guess I've cooled someone. And I'd

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Speaker 7: love to sit here and say they're on a four

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Speaker 7: game winning streak. They're four and two, they're in the

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Speaker 7: thick of the playoff.

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Speaker 4: Picture, and that's all true, but.

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Speaker 7: In some ways the last few games that's kind of

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Speaker 7: been despite their quarterback play. Their running game has been

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Speaker 7: great post by their run defense beIN has been much better,

475
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Speaker 7: and Caleb is just kind of scuttling along.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 7: The glass half full version of it is we have

478
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Speaker 7: seen the wow moments and drives and even wow quarters

479
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Speaker 7: and one wow game against Dallas that I guess everybody

480
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Speaker 7: lights up. If Caleb can string together some more consistency,

481
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Speaker 7: I do the the Bears could be a legitimate playoff team.

482
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Speaker 7: But much like when another quarterback that I have historically loved,

483
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Speaker 7: what he has really disappointed when the Jags were three

484
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Speaker 7: and one or whatever record they had if you watched

485
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Speaker 7: the games, that was not because of Trevor, that was

486
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Speaker 7: despite Trevor.

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Speaker 4: And now it's catching up to him a bit.

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Speaker 7: It feels like something similar right now is happening with Caleb.

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Speaker 4: Again, I think it's.

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Speaker 7: Far too early to say this is who he's going

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Speaker 7: to be all year, but I do think he's frustrated,

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Speaker 7: and I do think Ben Johnson's frustrated that it's not

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Speaker 7: a little further along, because that's Saint stephense Colin. Everyone

494
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Speaker 7: threw the ball well on them except for Caleb.

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Speaker 4: It seems so.

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Speaker 1: I've said, if the average NFL quarterback career is fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: and it's a fifteen chapter book, I usually by the

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Speaker 1: middle of the second chapter, I think I have a

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Speaker 1: pretty good track record.

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Speaker 3: I have a beat on a quarterback. I never quit

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Speaker 3: on Darnold.

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Speaker 1: Even when I was critical of Acre, I always said, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's a franchise quarterback. I'm not sure I want him.

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Speaker 1: He's too cocky, but he's a franchise quarterback. I feel

505
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Speaker 1: very good through the years. I love Drake May I said,

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniel is going to look like Lamar Jackson. I

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Speaker 1: think I like Caleb more than apparently many people did.

508
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Speaker 1: But the point being is I feel pretty good about it.

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Speaker 1: And then there's Dak Prescott and I'm like, Okay, well,

510
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Speaker 1: what chapter are we in?

511
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Speaker 3: Eleven?

512
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Speaker 1: And the entire time I've been glibbed, and I've said,

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Speaker 1: he's Kirk Cousins with a star in his helmet. Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins never carried this, And what's fascinating You and I

515
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Speaker 1: were both always sort of rolled our eyes at all

516
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Speaker 1: the hype that George Pickens, Mike Tomlin, who has.

517
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Speaker 3: Been more than willing to deal with dramas, like get.

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Speaker 1: Pickens out of here, Yeah, goes to Dak and like

519
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to disappoint him, and it's drama free.

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Speaker 3: He may be the best number two receiver in the league.

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Speaker 1: And I'm watching Dak here and I'm like, they didn't

522
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Speaker 1: have ce d Lamb, It's Brian Schottenheimer, It's high maintenance,

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Speaker 1: George Pickens, des Zeke, Amari, Tyron Smith, Zach mr they

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Speaker 1: all leave.

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Speaker 3: And Dak puts up huge numbers.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's the ultimate Colin was wrong, and

527
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Speaker 1: you similar, do you have any of that feeling watching

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Speaker 1: this year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well so listen.

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Speaker 7: I think going once they traded Micah, the Cowboys path

531
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Speaker 7: was clearly they were going to try to be a

532
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Speaker 7: better version of last year's Bengals, which is throw, you know,

533
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Speaker 7: trust our quarterback to go score thirty five a game,

534
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Speaker 7: see if the defense can hang on for dear life.

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Speaker 7: Most people, myself included, looked at that and said, well,

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Speaker 7: the problem is Dak isn't Burrow, and George Pickens isn't

537
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Speaker 7: t Higgins and through seven weeks, Dak is burrow and George.

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Speaker 4: Pickens is better than t Higgins. I didn't see any

539
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Speaker 4: of that coming, and.

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Speaker 7: So I have been super skeptical of Pickens, and that

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Speaker 7: dates back to a college career where he was more.

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Speaker 4: Than a handful. But he's been excellent.

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Speaker 7: The Cowboys offense performing the way it did when Ced

544
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Speaker 7: was hurt was stunning, and Dak just being one of

545
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Speaker 7: the most entertaining, high octane quarterbacks in the league has

546
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Speaker 7: been a pleasure to watch this year.

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Speaker 4: It also does feel to me.

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Speaker 7: That and I don't know the butterfly effect how things

549
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Speaker 7: would have changed, but watching this offense, Colin, doesn't it

550
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Speaker 7: feel to you, like man oh Man, had they not

551
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Speaker 7: traded Micah Parsons, we'd be talking about this team as

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Speaker 7: a real contender, ish team in an NFL where it

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Speaker 7: seems like other than Kansas City, nobody is and maybe

554
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Speaker 7: Detroit nobody is really good, and that it's wide open

555
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Speaker 7: for spots four through ten in this league. If Dallas

556
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Speaker 7: just had that nineteenth best defense, they would be right there.

557
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 7: And and instead it all goes on Dak's shoulder, and

558
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Speaker 7: he thus far, he's playing the best.

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Speaker 4: Ball of his life. I give him a ton of credit.

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Speaker 1: I want to end with a basketball topic because the

561
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Speaker 1: NBA season begins tonight. There's a new book out written

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Speaker 1: by a young man who said he chronicles Lebron's La

563
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Speaker 1: Laker career and in it Westbrook who runs hot, who's

564
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Speaker 1: highly emotional. But whether you like Westbrook or not, he's

565
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Speaker 1: about as real and authentic as anybody's gonna get.

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Speaker 3: He just you know, he runs hot.

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Speaker 1: I have defended Lebron through the year, saying, like Tiger

568
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Speaker 1: or MJ or o'tawny, he's at brand protection legacy stage now.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes he's a bit calculated, polished, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: he's protecting his empire. That's what CEOs do, and Lebron

571
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Speaker 1: is the league's CEO.

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Speaker 3: But but the knock.

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Speaker 1: There is there is this rub is that And I've

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Speaker 1: heard this through years that Lebron, who's Lebron? What is Lebron?

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Speaker 1: You know, he and the late Kobe weren't close. He

576
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Speaker 1: and Lebron. It's a weird thing. Sure, I mean, are

577
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Speaker 1: the criticisms of Lebron that he's a bit too calculated,

578
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Speaker 1: a bit too measured?

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Speaker 3: Is it fair?

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is a lot to unpack here, So

581
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Speaker 7: let me try to give it it's just due.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I.

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Speaker 7: I have massive respect for Russell Westbrook's career, Russell Westbrook

584
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Speaker 7: the man and the player. I also think there is

585
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Speaker 7: a lack of self awareness with Russ since he's stopped

586
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Speaker 7: being an MVP caliber player that has significantly damaged every

587
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Speaker 7: single team he's been on. And it's and for Russ

588
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 7: and certainly for Russ's fans, it's never Russ's fault. It's always,

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Speaker 7: you know, people didn't let Russ be Russ, when the

590
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Speaker 7: reality is for the last six years, letting Russ be

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Speaker 7: Russ means empty calorie, non winning basketball, like that first

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Speaker 7: ballot Hall of Famer. He's one of the fifty greatest

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Speaker 7: players ever. It's just been a rough last half decade.

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Speaker 4: So there's that piece of it. Do I think that.

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Speaker 7: Probably Russ and Lebron's personalities are very different?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 7: Do I also think that as we are now in

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Speaker 7: year twenty three of Lebron James being in the spotlight,

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Speaker 7: that a guy who has the biggest scandal he was

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00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 7: ever a part of was the decision which then raised

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Speaker 7: a couple million dollars for charity that people have been

602
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Speaker 7: trying to more than any athlete of my lifetime, find

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Speaker 7: some some cardinal sin or grievous error that he made,

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Speaker 7: to the point to where a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 7: when it was he was clearly going to do some

606
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Speaker 7: type of ad with the decision too, folks pretended that

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Speaker 7: they thought he was going to announce his retirement at

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Speaker 7: noon on a Tuesday, and they acted all offended by it.

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Speaker 4: That now, what people have come down to.

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Speaker 7: Is, you know what, I don't like the cut of

611
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 7: his jib, and I think he lies about reading books.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't read.

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Speaker 7: That's my problem with Lebron, Like, give me a break.

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Speaker 7: The guy has been these spokesman, the face, the ambassador

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Speaker 7: of this league for a quarter century, almost more than

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Speaker 7: twenty percent of the time the NBA has existed. Lebron

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Speaker 7: James has been at the eppie center of it and

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00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 7: does not have a substantial misstep to his name, and

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Speaker 7: not a scandal on or off the court. So I

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Speaker 7: understand he's an easy guy to go after in this regard.

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Speaker 7: And yes, of course he is calculated, and yes, of

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Speaker 7: course he had Anything he says or.

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Speaker 4: Does is going to be dissected.

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Speaker 7: He asked me very careful with it, but I think

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Speaker 7: that he has handled that spotlight better than quite literally

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Speaker 7: any other athlete of our lives.

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright, I agree. First things first, I'll leave you

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Speaker 1: with this. This doesn't mean anything. Please, this doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: I just want to throw it out there because I'm

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Speaker 1: very data driven. Bo Nix's college winning percentage was seventy

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Speaker 1: percent and Patrick's was forty four.

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Speaker 7: Well, another way, you know what that means a lot,

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Speaker 7: because that's another piece of data that shows bo Nicks

634
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Speaker 7: is nothing like Patrick Mahomes. And I agree with that.

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Speaker 7: Talk to you everybody, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, great, Nick Right, appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you know it's Chris Rock had a

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Speaker 1: line years ago. A man is as loyal as his options,

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00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: and similar to that, you know everybody's I can't believe

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Speaker 1: you took the money from them and you did that.

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Speaker 1: You don't have any options. People with options take advantage

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Speaker 1: of options. The other thing is, whenever I hear well,

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Speaker 1: this guy is calculated, this guy is protecting his brand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got one. That's what happens when you're worth a

645
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: billion dollars. Tiger would have been better to protect his brand, right,

646
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys who have had a brand

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Speaker 1: and butchered it, so listen. I do think there are

648
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Speaker 1: times Lebron on the Internet and on the Instagram is

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Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty calculated, you know. I think that's fair

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00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: to say. But he's he's got a lot to protect.

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00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: Here's another number. I wish I had nick fourth quarter

652
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: passer rating this year Bo Nicks one oh one mahomes

653
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: immediately ninety eight. The dad is coming out. It's pretty clear,

654
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: pretty pretty clear. Greg Olsen's around the corner as well

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Speaker 1: in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: It's one more heard.

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Speaker 1: It's got a very interesting game Sunday. The Bills are

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Speaker 1: in no mood to fool around. They're at the Panthers Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Greg Olsen will be calling it Fox Sports and he

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Speaker 1: is joining me live. You know, it's interesting when you

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Speaker 1: have a great I mean, you play with Cam Newton,

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Speaker 1: when you have a dynamic quarterback, everybody thinks, well, things

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Speaker 1: are easier, but you.

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Speaker 3: Know a lot comes with that.

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Speaker 1: And I look at Buffalo, the team you're doing, and

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, oh my god, you want them to

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Speaker 1: be Superman. But not too often you break down the

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Speaker 1: film on Buffalo. What is Is it just they need

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Speaker 1: another perimeter weapon? Is it that simple? Diagnose the problems?

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Speaker 1: What you see in a team right now that feels

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Speaker 1: they're a little lost, they're a little off center.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I really just dove into their game, especially the

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Speaker 6: most recent game you had to buy and so the

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Speaker 6: week before in the loss against Atlanta, And so I

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Speaker 6: saw the Bills in preseason up in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: None of the real stars played.

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Speaker 6: Josh didn't play, but had a chance to spend some

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Speaker 6: time with McDermott, Joe Brady and a lot of those

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Speaker 6: guys from our Carolina days that we know, and I

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Speaker 6: think they know how good they can be. I think

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Speaker 6: they understand they have to continue to try to offload

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Speaker 6: as much as possible off Josh Allen. And now it

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Speaker 6: goes without saying he's the best player in the league,

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Speaker 6: the raigning MVP. The ball should be in his hand

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Speaker 6: right And when you look at what they've been over

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Speaker 6: the last couple of years compared to what they really

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Speaker 6: tried to do, especially in most recent game against Atlanta,

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Speaker 6: I actually really liked it. You know, you saw in

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Speaker 6: the Atlanta game they're back, They're under center more. They're

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Speaker 6: trying to do some more under center, play action first

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Speaker 6: and second down, playing with some bigger bodies, multiple tight ends,

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Speaker 6: jumbo tight ends, and trying to just get out of

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Speaker 6: the mode where Josh Stan's in the shotgun. Every ball

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Speaker 6: snapped him. It's very hard to get play action out

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Speaker 6: of the gun. You're seeing a lot of the really

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Speaker 6: good teams. You've been seeing Mahomes do it now more

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Speaker 6: in Kansas City, teams are starting to understand the best

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Speaker 6: downs to throw the ball are first and second, and

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Speaker 6: the best way to do it oftentimes is through play action.

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Speaker 6: So I think Buffalo is still trying to figure out

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Speaker 6: what is that blend between keeping Josh in the gun,

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Speaker 6: snap it to him and let him create both as

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Speaker 6: a scramble runner, a designed runner, and of course as

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Speaker 6: a passer, but also unloading some of the pressure and

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Speaker 6: putting some more on Cook in the run game, and

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Speaker 6: putting some more on the offensive line and generating some

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Speaker 6: free open receivers in the play action layers and whatnot.

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Speaker 6: So I think Joe Brady's still trying to figure out

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Speaker 6: what that badole is. But I like the Again, it

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Speaker 6: didn't result in a win, but I actually think going

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Speaker 6: forward that's going to pay them some dividends because I

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Speaker 6: don't care how good you are every single play the

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Speaker 6: ball being in the hands of your shotgun quarterback to

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Speaker 6: just expect it to make magic, especially like to your point,

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Speaker 6: you don't have like a Justin Jefferson, a true star

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Speaker 6: single receiver. I think teams are finding it more and

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Speaker 6: more difficult in today's NFL.

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Speaker 1: So I said, I watch body language a lot with

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and coaches, and I watched Ben Johnson with Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: and there's a resting, discouraged face. I look at this offense,

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Speaker 1: and I think Caleb's good at the podium. I like

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Speaker 1: the run game, I like the defense. I think Ben's

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Speaker 1: excellent and smart. Is it possible that Caleb's going to

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Speaker 1: be a franchise quarterback. He's never going to be sixty

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Speaker 1: eight percent. You're gonna get a lot of big plays,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get a lot of horsepower.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a good kid.

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Speaker 1: But when I watch that offense, man, do they leave

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Speaker 1: a lot on the floor. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: open looks. He's you know, this was the knock in

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Speaker 1: college consistent accuracy, it's the knock in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Is it possible?

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Speaker 1: And I guess you could go back to cam that

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Speaker 1: it's like, hey, listen, we just know what he is

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Speaker 1: and we know what he struggles with, and let's just

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Speaker 1: build around it.

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Speaker 6: And I think you also have to look at the

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Speaker 6: point of where he is in his career. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you look at last year as almost the lost year, right.

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Speaker 6: I know, he played a lot of games, but there

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Speaker 6: was a lot of dysfunction, there was a lot of turnover,

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Speaker 6: there was coaching changes. So you look at you know,

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Speaker 6: you look at the year prior and you say Okay,

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Speaker 6: what really was the benefit from that. Well, now incomes

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Speaker 6: Ben Johnson, and I think you're seeing more and more

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Speaker 6: franchises adopt. You know, there's a very famous phrase, right

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Speaker 6: that franchises fail young quarterbacks more than young quarterbacks fail franchises.

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Speaker 6: And I think you're seeing it with what Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 6: is doing with some of these rebirth of Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 6: who now continued it in Seattle. And you know, you're

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Speaker 6: seeing what goes on with so many of these quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: that were for dead. You know, they couldn't play. Daniel

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Speaker 6: Jones was thrown out in New York, and you make

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Speaker 6: an argument Indianapolis is the best offense in the league.

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Speaker 6: If not, they're in the conversation as the top two

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Speaker 6: or three. So fit is such an important part of

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Speaker 6: all this. And then you factor in just how young

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Speaker 6: Caleb is and how fresh he is in his NFL career.

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Speaker 6: I think there's been great growth. I think Ben Johnson

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Speaker 6: is obviously wonderful at what he does. I think his

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Speaker 6: energy not only from an ex'es and o's. I think

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Speaker 6: he's highly demanding. I think he comes across this this

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Speaker 6: nice guy, but I think he is a real. He

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Speaker 6: is highly disciplined, holds guys to really high standards. He's

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Speaker 6: very clear in his communication, and I think that's been

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Speaker 6: good for Caleb. So I think we've seen a ton

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Speaker 6: of growth here through the first half, you know, call

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Speaker 6: it rough third to you know, forty percent of the

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Speaker 6: season thus far. I think the expectations he continues to improve.

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Speaker 6: I don't think anyone in Chicago right now should be

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Speaker 6: having any conversations about looking anywhere else for quarterback for

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Speaker 6: the foreseeable future then Caleb Williams, because he should just

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Speaker 6: continue to improve. Now, what is the ceiling? Is he

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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes? Is he Josh Allen? Who knows? Very few

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Speaker 6: guys are. But I think their trajectory, the improvement, the

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Speaker 6: turnaround we've seen already with to your point, a lot

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Speaker 6: of room left to grow. I think if I'm a

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Speaker 6: Bears fan, I'm highly encouraged.

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Speaker 1: So you've been doing the tight end university down. I

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Speaker 1: think Nashville, isn't that what you're holding every year? So

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Speaker 1: I saw I watched him play all last year at

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Speaker 1: Penn State, Tyler Warren. I saw him have seventeen catches

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Speaker 1: against USC. He walks into the league, I mean, even

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Speaker 1: Antonio Gates, it took him a year to find his

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Speaker 1: space a little bit. Or I remember Gronk being very good,

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Speaker 1: very early, but he had some injuries in college.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Much about Gronk. This kid has walked in and pretty much.

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Speaker 1: I always say, it's one thing to be productive, it's

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Speaker 1: another to be open all the time. Did you spot

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Speaker 1: this kid years ago that he come out of nowhere?

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Speaker 1: Did you know about Tyler Warren years ago?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just surprised that he wasn't the first

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Speaker 6: Titan taken. I'll be honest.

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Speaker 4: I know you know the Bears took Loveland.

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure the Bears took Loveland if I had

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Speaker 6: that right out of Michigan. So I thought the assumption

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Speaker 6: was that Warren was going to be the top pick.

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Speaker 6: I think I think Indianapolis from the very beginning did

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Speaker 6: a really nice job, Chris Ballard, obviously Shane Steiken identifying

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Speaker 6: just the value that a kid like him to bring.

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Speaker 6: I think we all remember him from college lining up

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Speaker 6: at wildcat quarterback and some of the funky formations where

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Speaker 6: he's lining up like I think there was the one

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Speaker 6: play he was the center in an unbalanced and he

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Speaker 6: ended up catching the ball like they did a lot

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Speaker 6: of really creative things with him. But I think Shane

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Speaker 6: Steiken is as good of an offensive mind. You think

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Speaker 6: back a couple of years ago under Siriani, his offense,

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Speaker 6: his offense in that evolution of that team for their

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Speaker 6: first Super Bowl run. When they ended up losing that game,

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Speaker 6: we covered then obviously he went and got the head

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Speaker 6: job with the Colts kind of disappeared maybe from the

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Speaker 6: national scene as like the offensive gru just because the

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Speaker 6: Colts run overly, you know, competitive and has some struggles.

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Speaker 6: But I think now with Daniel Jones, the job he's done,

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Speaker 6: I think Tyler Warren coming into the league, you're exactly right.

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Speaker 6: When I came into the league years ago, there was

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Speaker 6: an assumption that tight ends took a couple of years

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Speaker 6: to adopt the NFL game. But you look recently what

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Speaker 6: Brock Bauers did last year in his first year with

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Speaker 6: the Raiders, and what Tyler Warren's doing. I mean, we're

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Speaker 6: starting to see a faster evolution, a faster growth. I

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Speaker 6: think part of that is just the tight end position

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Speaker 6: in college is a little bit more. It's less guys

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Speaker 6: making a position change it's less guys. You know, we're

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Speaker 6: wide receivers when they were young, or running backs. These

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Speaker 6: kids are now growing up a lot of them, maybe

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Speaker 6: I know Warren fight some other positions, but they're growing

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Speaker 6: up understanding the position playing true tight end at the

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Speaker 6: college level, I think the job that Ben State did

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Speaker 6: with Warren and now the job that Shane Steiken is

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Speaker 6: doing with him he's leading the league is for tight

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Speaker 6: ends and receiving yards. I think he's like third in catches,

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Speaker 6: just unheard of from a rookie, and it seems like

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Speaker 6: every game you watch, he's open.

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Speaker 4: He's open in the end zone. He's dynamic with the ball.

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Speaker 6: He's good enough that he could be on the field

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Speaker 6: on first and second down and get his nose bloody

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Speaker 6: and get in there and compete in the run game. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: he's I don't know if he's as dynamic as brought

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Speaker 6: Bowers from just like a speed and just that top end.

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Speaker 6: But from a production standpoint, now, the last two years

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Speaker 6: we've seen tight ends really take the NFL by storm,

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Speaker 6: and that's that's pretty hard to do.

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Speaker 1: So when I watched Bo Nixon, Jackson Dart this weekend,

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Speaker 1: I mean, neither's got a huge arm. I think Jackson

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Speaker 1: darts arms pretty good. There's something to be said about

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Speaker 1: confidence and I when I watched that game, my takeaway

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Speaker 1: was more than anything, they're not overwhelmed by it. They're

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Speaker 1: totally confident. Guys like Jackson Darts like, bring it on,

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Speaker 1: bring that the I mean he made a bad pick.

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Speaker 1: I always said, my favorite part of Andrew Luck so

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Speaker 1: terrible picks. Laugh, blame himself, grab his helmet and throw

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Speaker 1: the ball.

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Speaker 3: Right at you again, like had a short memory. I think,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You've been around pro athletes your whole life. I watched

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Speaker 1: Dart and bow Nicks. I can see the self belief

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00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: as a consumer watching on television. That's what I saw Sunday.

873
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: Dart's not afraid going to Denver on the road altitude

874
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: that defense you played there, Brady struggled there.

875
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 3: That's a rough place to play.

876
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean watching that game, I was in the

877
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 6: airport in Minneapolis getting ready to fly home for my game,

878
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 6: and just you know, it was nineteen nothing.

879
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 4: They go for two. They don't get it.

880
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 6: We could discuss whether that was right or wrong, and

881
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 6: then the series of events that played out from that

882
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 6: moment to obviously how the game ended on the field

883
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 6: goal was just I couldn't even believe what I was watching,

884
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 6: just from a game flow, in the back and forth.

885
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 6: But as far as the two young quarterbacks, yeah, I

886
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 6: mean there's a notion in the NFL the only guys

887
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 6: that aren't going to have bad days and the only

888
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 6: guys that aren't gonna play and have bad you know,

889
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 6: have bad moments. And the guys that stand on the sideline,

890
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 6: like if you're afraid to make mistakes, if you're afraid

891
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 6: to throw picks, if you're afraid to drop the ball, fumble,

892
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 6: whatever your position is, if.

893
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 4: The fear of failure paralyzes.

894
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 6: You, you're gonna find yourself standing on the sideline quite

895
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 6: a bit in this league because bad things are gonna happen.

896
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: Things are going to go against you.

897
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 6: And and the guys that have this uncanny ability to

898
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 6: rally and to get their get their confidence back. You

899
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 6: don't know if they've thrown three picks or three or

900
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 6: three touchdowns, their command of the huddle, the way they

901
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 6: interact with their teammates on the sideline. I mean, Jackson

902
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 6: dar and I know they lost, but when he came

903
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 6: off the sideline, after his you know, little quarterback design

904
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 6: run on the goal line, which was a great play

905
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 6: design that he you know, he extends the ball, he

906
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 6: gets the touchdown. I know it ended in heartbreak and

907
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 6: bo Nicks deserves a lot of credit. But like when

908
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 6: he came off the sideline, the way he greeted his coaches,

909
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 6: the way he greeted the veterans on the team, you

910
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 6: can just tell they do look at him as like

911
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 6: you're a fun story, you're the rookie, but like you

912
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 6: stand over there and let He is arguably the ring

913
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 6: leader of that group. And he's only started now a

914
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 6: couple of games. So certain guys have that personality. They

915
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 6: have a little charisma. There's a belief that when they're

916
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 6: on the field, we have a chance. And I love

917
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 6: his energy. Is he gonna throw picks, Yes, he's he

918
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 6: gonna have bad decisions. Of course, He's going to continue

919
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 6: to get better. You can't teach competitive spirit. You either

920
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 6: have it or you don't, and I think both those

921
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 6: young quarterbacks have it.

922
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: The Chiefs look like the best team in the league

923
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 3: by a touchdown, do they not?

924
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: I said this, it's amazing. They do a great job

925
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: of everybody makes mistakes. Every GM whiffs it's impossible. They

926
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: identify very quickly mistakes. They don't let pride or ego

927
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: get in the way. You know, it's they've got a

928
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: sail boat mentality even though they're an aircraft carrier. They

929
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: can turn very quickly like doesn't work, does work, Let's

930
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: bring juju back?

931
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 3: Doesn't work?

932
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: I watch Kansas City and I'm like, I feel so

933
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: much of their successes upstairs is before the snap.

934
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

935
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: You've been around a lot, you talk to a lot

936
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: of players. I think sometimes they're functioning at just a

937
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: higher level than everybody else.

938
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think the part that you nailed is

939
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 6: just their ability to reinvent themselves and don't feel like

940
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 6: they need to play the same cookie cutter approach week

941
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 6: in week out, let alone, season in season out. You know,

942
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 6: And if you take a look at the last handful

943
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 6: of years, right the year they won the Super Bowl

944
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 6: when they beat Philadelphia, we covered a bunch of those game.

945
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 6: Obviously we covered the Super Bowl, we covered that part.

946
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 6: They transitioned themselves through that draft, and obviously Spags, the

947
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 6: defensive coordinator, is one of the best in the business.

948
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 4: They went from a.

949
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 6: Quarterback led, offensive court, offensive head coach, and Andy Reid

950
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 6: and Mahomes and superstars, offensive driven. They knew they needed

951
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 6: to invest themselves in all those young defensive talent, and

952
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 6: they took their lumps early in that year, and that

953
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 6: young defense got better and better and better, and then

954
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 6: it kind.

955
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Speaker 4: Of flipped on its head.

956
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 6: The following year, the offense really struggled, does Mahomes have

957
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 6: enough weapons? And all of a sudden, this young defense,

958
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 6: you've now become a defensive lead team. And then they

959
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 6: went from a shotgun We're going to throw the ball

960
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 6: in every down and put the ball on Mahomes's hand

961
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 6: to you know what, we're out, Rashi Rice Xavier Worthy's out.

962
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: We might have to get under center a little bit more.

963
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 6: And that's not really what Andy and Patrick Mahomes have

964
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 6: been in their Kansas City chief days. They're thrown at

965
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 6: thirty five times a game from gun, but they don't

966
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 6: have to play the same style of game to beat you.

967
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 6: It could be offensive lead, it could be defensive lead.

968
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 6: When one is struggling, the other seams to always kind

969
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 6: of elevate their game. I think now as you see

970
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 6: them get healthy, I think now as you see them

971
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 6: start getting some of their offensive weapons back.

972
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Speaker 4: You're starting to see that offense click. I think from

973
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 4: a I'm with you.

974
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 6: I think from a well rounded balanced offense, defense, youth

975
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 6: superstars at the correct positions, I think, and then obviously

976
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 6: Andy Reid being one of the all time greats as

977
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 6: a head coach play caller. I think, when you add

978
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 6: it all up, if they continue to stay healthy and

979
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 6: they continue to keep these guys on the field that

980
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 6: they've gotten back, I'm with you.

981
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Speaker 4: I don't it's going to be very hard.

982
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Speaker 6: Especially some of the AFC teams that we had high

983
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 6: hopes for are coming into the year that have really

984
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 6: had disappointing seasons.

985
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 4: But the exception of Buffalo, Like, who do you really feel.

986
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 6: Confident in the AFC with the game on the line,

987
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 6: is ready right now to beat them?

988
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 4: And I think the answer is nobody.

989
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's how I feel.

990
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Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, Fox Sports as OLA's it's great.

991
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Speaker 3: It's great chatting. I love talking to you.

992
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Speaker 4: Man, appreciate it. Colin, It's always good to be on it.