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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty, and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: After more than two hundred and thirty years in circulation,

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Speaker 3: the US Mint in Philadelphia pressing the last ever American penny.

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Speaker 3: US Treasurer Brandon Beach on hand for the historic moment

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Speaker 3: as production of the one cent coins officially comes to

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Speaker 3: an end, the final two pennies going up for auction.

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Speaker 4: For better or worse. Trump is not in love with

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Speaker 4: the status quo. He just does things that other people

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Speaker 4: that well, but this will cause a problem.

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Speaker 2: But what if that? But what if this? And what

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Speaker 2: if the penny's dumb?

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Speaker 4: Get rid of it. Jerusalem's a capital Isray. We all

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Speaker 4: know it, right, lots of things like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, most of it good, some of it not good.

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Speaker 4: But you know, then around all these years was more

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Speaker 4: on it, especially after inflation.

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Speaker 2: He was already done before inflation. But an extra dumb then,

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, we've outlined in the past. A penny is

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Speaker 2: now worth something a tenth of a penny compared to

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Speaker 2: what it was in nineteen forty whatever the year was.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember, so can you imagine having a tenth

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Speaker 2: of a cent coin. That's what we've got. We'll combine

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Speaker 2: that with the fact that it cost four cents to

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Speaker 2: make one. Right insane anyway, Goodbye penny. Old link is

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Speaker 2: on there, which makes me feel bad, but he's still

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Speaker 2: on the five dollar bill, and you know it can

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Speaker 2: keep some pennies if you like. Just take them out,

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Speaker 2: look at them and think about old Ay once in

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Speaker 2: a while if that comforts you. Anyway. So this is

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Speaker 2: not breaking news exactly, but you might not have heard it.

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Speaker 2: Seattle has joined New York City in electing a Democratic

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Speaker 2: Socialist mayor by an incredibly slim margin over a way

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Speaker 2: left you know, guy who was in office before, as

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Speaker 2: the The Daily Mail puts it to. Ms. Katie Wilson,

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Speaker 2: age forty three, the first Democratic Socialist mayor of Seattle,

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Speaker 2: ran a very similar campaign to old Mamdannie the Kamie.

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Speaker 2: She's run a campaign characterized by promises to increase in

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Speaker 2: affordability in the expensive city by doing policies that will

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Speaker 2: accomplish exactly the opposite, as they do every single damn time.

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Speaker 2: Another core of her platform is addressing Seattle's homelessness crisis

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Speaker 2: by throwing money at it, which plays California. You can

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Speaker 2: tell you, We'll just get you more bums and junkie

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Speaker 2: Seattle one of the worst in the country. Critics have

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Speaker 2: called Wilson privileged and out of touch, as the forty

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Speaker 2: three year old candidate regularly receives checks from her professor

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Speaker 2: parents to pay for childcare. Wow, which I'm sure she

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Speaker 2: would say is just evidence of how capitalism has failed.

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Speaker 2: It's funny how that excuse comes up over and over again.

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Speaker 2: These critics also a highlight Wilson dropping out of Oxford

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Speaker 2: University just six weeks before graduation for some reason, debt

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Speaker 2: free thanks to her parents. The Other Person's reelection website

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Speaker 2: highlighted a quote from a former Singing Seattle King County

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Speaker 2: NAACP president of All People who said it's hard to

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Speaker 2: trust a candidate running on their challenges with affordability when

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Speaker 2: her family's wealth shields her from actual consequences and financial stress.

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Speaker 4: I would like to say that her voting was similar

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Speaker 4: to with mom Donnie. Where was in the working class

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Speaker 4: that got the mayor of Saddle over the top. It

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Speaker 4: was other highly educated elite people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So currently her husband does not have a

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Speaker 2: paying job either, Neither one of them have a job. Well,

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Speaker 2: if she's a mayor now, well, yeah, currently that means

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Speaker 2: the couple's household income is below would be considered enough

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Speaker 2: money to support themselves and their child in Seattle. So

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Speaker 2: she gets checks from home at age forty three. Wow,

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Speaker 2: she's not ashamed. It just speaks how expensive and unaffordable

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Speaker 2: it is, right, she said, how about how about like.

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Speaker 4: The other ninety nine it's pretty high of people your

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Speaker 4: age who have figured out how to support themselves.

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Speaker 2: What are they just dumb? Yeah? Yeah, wow, that is

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Speaker 2: just unbelievable. Oh, good luck with that that.

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Speaker 4: You're in your forties and you're still on your parents pay.

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Speaker 2: Check unless you have special needs of course, of course,

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Speaker 2: something different. Yeah, that's just that's just sad. That is

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Speaker 2: just sad. Yeah, okay, well that's enough of that.

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Speaker 4: And of course, of course you'd turn to that person

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Speaker 4: for the answers to economic problems, somebody that has not

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Speaker 4: figured out how to support themselves at all. Well, because

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Speaker 4: she reinforces the excuses you're making for yourself in your

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Speaker 2: I get it. There's nothing more comfortable than a great excuse.

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Speaker 2: So you know, speaking of political trends among the young.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been reading a lot about this, and

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Speaker 2: there's too much to cram in here. But read a

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Speaker 2: piece by a guy named Derek Thompson, The Monks in

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Speaker 2: the Casine, and it's and he highlights a couple of

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Speaker 2: people who have appeared in big time journalism profiles lately.

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Speaker 2: The one guy is a He considered himself a porno sexual,

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Speaker 2: which is exactly what it sounds like. It's just it's sick,

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Speaker 2: beyond sick and bizarre. He's no good with talking about women.

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Speaker 2: He thinks about sex between two people and he's troubled

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Speaker 2: by it. He's frightened by it because of the impossibility

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Speaker 2: of ever knowing what's really going on in your partner's head.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like it's exhausting for both parties. Then

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Speaker 2: there's this another guy with a gambling addiction, both of

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Speaker 2: them living in their parents' house.

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Speaker 4: What's a porno sexual? I mean you said it's is

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Speaker 4: it all porn all the time? You prefer porn to

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Speaker 4: the real thing.

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Speaker 2: Uh, not that he's ever dabbled in the real thing.

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Speaker 2: Been recently thinking about these guys, Derek Wrights, who are dating, less, socializing,

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Speaker 2: less leaving their homes, less, filling their media with more

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Speaker 2: porn and betting parlays. They seem to prefer the financial

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Speaker 2: discomfort of losing a bet to the social anxiety being

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Speaker 2: rejected on a date. They find intimacy scary and gambling exciting,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. Monks and casinos. The title of

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Speaker 2: his piece, that's troubling, wait till ai hit yeah, Oh

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Speaker 2: my god. And then on that topic, Jeff Blair for

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Speaker 2: The National Review, he's talking about the the woke right,

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Speaker 2: if you will, the Tucker, Nick Foantes Groyper's crown, And

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Speaker 2: how about thirty to forty percent of the young people

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Speaker 2: who are like activists climbers in Washington, d c. On

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Speaker 2: the right are probably in that crowd. They think it's

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Speaker 2: just under a third to forty percent who hold the

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Speaker 2: views that are I will quote characterizable beyond anti Semitism

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Speaker 2: as a general belief that the system as it exists

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Speaker 2: is corrupt and must be leveled along with whoever is

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Speaker 2: perceived as having been its beneficiaries. Blah blah blah. And

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Speaker 2: he says that's.

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Speaker 4: The part of the whole movement that worries me, and

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Speaker 4: I think is paying attention to I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're Germany in nineteen thirty three, that anti

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Speaker 4: semitism is going to become a leading But just.

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Speaker 2: The boy they're close in Canada. More on that another time, but.

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Speaker 4: Just the the system stacked against me, combined with scared

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Speaker 4: to talk to other human beings, just that all that

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Speaker 4: anger from that. You're just unhappy with life. And how

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Speaker 4: would you not be unhappy? You got no friends, you're

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Speaker 4: not have any sex, you have never been in a relationship,

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Speaker 4: and you don't have a job. That makes for a

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Speaker 4: really angry group of people that can be a pretty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And then he points out the anti semitism

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Speaker 2: on the young right comes despite all the various guys

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Speaker 2: and poses, from a much deeper and darker impulse, the

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Speaker 2: reflexive rejection of pieties or you know, the sacred thoughts

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Speaker 2: of the past. For people scolded their entire lives to

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Speaker 2: think that X or why was racist or sexist, that

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Speaker 2: boys or girls and vice versa, and white males are

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Speaker 2: the engine of civilizational evil. It is profoundly unsurprising to

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Speaker 2: see a pendulum swinging backlash in an equally ignorant opposite direction.

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Speaker 2: Nihilism is contagious and it spreads quickly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did bring that up when I was watching

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Speaker 4: the Nick Puentes on Tucker Carlson. The thing that I thought, okay,

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Speaker 4: I could see this as an entry way into people

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Speaker 4: who agree with you, especially if you're a white male,

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Speaker 4: is weird. The only crowd that are not allowed to

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Speaker 4: believe more of us is good, and we're being attacked

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Speaker 4: from all sides. Every single other crowd gets to say,

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Speaker 4: there'd this board would be better with more this school,

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Speaker 4: this whatever, this company would be better with more of me, But.

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Speaker 2: Not if you're a white male, right exactly, And then

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Speaker 2: he makes an excellent point. Uh blah blah blah blah bah.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the young dissolution right that's looking for

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Speaker 2: scapegoats to blame either. As the Groyper debate has raged

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Speaker 2: during the past few weeks, the thought has lurked in

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Speaker 2: the back of my mind. This explains Zorn Mumdani too.

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Speaker 2: The connective thread between them isn't anti Semitism, although the

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Speaker 2: overlap is obvious. I believe that anti Semitism is symptomatic

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Speaker 2: of a greater disease, a shared generational ferment societies have

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Speaker 2: nots raging against societies haves, with the same poison coursing

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Speaker 2: through the veins of both radical wings of our modern politics.

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Speaker 2: And he gets into, you know, the young people in Seattle,

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Speaker 2: in New York can't pay their bills, cannot save, see

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Speaker 2: all of their expected career paths being swiftly foreclosed on,

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Speaker 2: little optimism about the future. And let's see where is

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Speaker 2: the part that he gets into. And this is something

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Speaker 2: I've read about in the past and kind of forgotten about.

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Speaker 2: But the overproduction of elites. You have way more people

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Speaker 2: universities than could possibly occupy the elite seats of power.

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Speaker 2: He's writing a mount in Washington, d C. But that

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Speaker 2: exists in Washington, DC, for instance, there's just like five to.

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Speaker 4: One, which kind of means the term elite would would

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Speaker 4: need a different word, right if if you don't need

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Speaker 4: very many of them. Elite I'm not sure is the

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Speaker 4: right word elite kind of I don't know, elite athletes,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Seems like it would have to be

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Speaker 4: a commodity to the that it's good to have a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, I was going

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Speaker 2: to use a metaphor, but I'm not sure it's a

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Speaker 2: good one anyway, So I found that that's super interesting.

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Speaker 2: And then I'll end with this, And it's a really

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Speaker 2: interesting take from the folks at the Federalists, who about

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Speaker 2: half the time I think have lost their minds. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know Kelsey Ballerini. I guess she's a big

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Speaker 2: deal musician, singer. She was a judge on The Voice Okay,

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Speaker 2: has had a bunch of big hits. Her new big hit,

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Speaker 2: which is accompanied by a video, is called uh, I

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Speaker 2: sit in Parks. Oh, I've heard about this, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: about a couple of weeks ago. When I came across this,

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Speaker 2: she's she's seen through a nostalgic, warm filter, swinging on

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Speaker 2: a playground as quick clips of children playing with bubbles

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Speaker 2: or children being embraced by their parents cut in and out.

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Speaker 2: I sit in parks. It breaks my heart, she says

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Speaker 2: in the opening line. She and then talks about, you

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Speaker 2: know her, what she's achieved a little bit in the verse,

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Speaker 2: but by the end of the day quote, all she

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Speaker 2: can see is just how far I am from the

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Speaker 2: things that I want. Dad brought the picnic, Mom brought

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Speaker 2: the sunscreen. The kids are laughing and crying on red Swings.

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Speaker 2: We look about the same age, but we don't have

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Speaker 2: the same Saturdays. And she wonders if she missed the mark,

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Speaker 2: adding it's her fault for chasing things. A body clock

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Speaker 2: doesn't wait for h Yet she seems hesitant to let

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Speaker 2: go of the lifestyle that put her in the position

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Speaker 2: in the first place. The album's, the tours, the awards,

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah, or what I wanted, what I got,

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Speaker 2: she says. In the course to cope, she'll keep well,

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Speaker 2: I'll just read the chorus. So I sit in Parks,

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Speaker 2: sunglasses dark, and I hit the vape hallucinated nursery with

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Speaker 4: the situation we're in now because the average voter has

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Speaker 4: no grasp And this is true in France, it's true

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Speaker 4: in Britain, it's true in the US has no grasp

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Speaker 4: of the concept of fiscal restraint. They you know, it's

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Speaker 4: too easy to sell them on. You deserve handouts. I

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Speaker 4: just you know, I don't know how legitimate this quote is.

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Speaker 4: I've seen it a million times old. The Scottish guy

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Speaker 4: that when a people realizes it can vote itself money themselves,

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Speaker 4: money from the treasury, a republic is doomed. I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure there's any turning it around short of a cataclysm.

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Speaker 4: But you don't bounce back from every cataclysm. It was like,

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Speaker 4: you're only half serious. God send me a warning, so

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Speaker 4: I get really serious about getting healthy, like a minor

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Speaker 4: heart attack, right, I ask God to give me a

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Speaker 4: minor heart attack so I would start eating better.

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Speaker 2: Well, your genius, Jack, your unappreciated genius is that's a

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Speaker 2: perfect metaphor for the United States. The only thing that

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Speaker 2: will stop us wolfing down bacon drinking a quarter of

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Speaker 2: urban a night and smoking four packs a day is

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Speaker 2: a fiscal heart attack, the problem being you don't always

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Speaker 2: survive them. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, the pandemic was quite the cataclysm, and it didn't

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Speaker 4: make things better anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, you know, that's funny. And when we were

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Speaker 2: talking a couple segments ago, whenever it was about young

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Speaker 2: people and young men and their anger and anti Semitism

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Speaker 2: and that whole stew the writer that I was quoting

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Speaker 2: mentioned how bitterly painful the COVID shutdowns were for young

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Speaker 2: men in so many ways, and it drove them away

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Speaker 2: from girlfriends and real friends and jobs and striving and

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Speaker 2: pride in being a man. Blah blah blah. The COVID shutdowns,

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Speaker 2: which were specifically opposite of what all the health organizations

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Speaker 2: around the world had said they would do when there

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Speaker 2: was a pandemic. They abandon all their plans and panicked

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Speaker 2: and shut them down and kept the kids out of

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Speaker 2: schools the rest of it. I don't think we've reckoned

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Speaker 2: with a third of the damage that did. No definitely

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Speaker 2: incredible evil that perpetrated. I'll be saying that until I'm

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Speaker 2: lowered into my grave.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the cataclysm that gets our attention is war with Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: We've got a quarter of the Navy there now we're

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Speaker 4: ready to take on the Venezuelans.

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Speaker 2: They've called her what.

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Speaker 4: Purpose now they've called it. I haven't gotten around with that.

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Speaker 4: Probably just stopped the drug flow allegedly, right.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Columbia's like cool, we'll take the business some of

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Speaker 2: the details on that, among other things on the way.

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Speaker 2: Stay here.

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Speaker 5: The Ghiro bureau straight from our European yous desk Okay,

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Speaker 5: that was Joe Getty's euro bureau.

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Speaker 2: That was so horrible it was great. Oh Man Armstrong.

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Speaker 6: Heetti America has blown up nineteen small boats off Venezuela's coast,

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Speaker 6: and now the Navy's largest aircraft carrier is arriving. These

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Speaker 6: Venezuelan military exercises broadcast on State TV suggests the threat

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Speaker 6: felt by its leader Nicholas Maduro.

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Speaker 4: So that's the CBS News version of what's going on

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Speaker 4: with Venezuela. As you all know, well, as you voted

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Speaker 4: for it was a year and three days ago. You

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Speaker 4: went to the polls and voted for Donald Trump because

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Speaker 4: you wanted to go to war with Venezuela. And you

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Speaker 4: couldn't wait another minute. I don't recall that specifically, but

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Speaker 4: go on anyway anyway, ohing too, Yeah, exactly, Thanks Ben.

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Speaker 4: Kind of seems like maybe we're headed that way. Here's

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Speaker 4: Jennifer Griffin and her report on this from Fox.

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Speaker 1: As the US military build up in the Caribbean continues,

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Speaker 1: Venezuela's defense minister ordered the countries two hundred thousand soldiers

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Speaker 1: to prepare for war.

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Speaker 2: If they come to touch Venezuela.

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Speaker 7: There you will see a people determined to defend this

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Speaker 7: homeland to the death.

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Speaker 1: Colombia has halted the intelligence it will share with the US.

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Speaker 1: This comes a day after Fox News confirmed reports that

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Speaker 1: the UK began limiting some of the intelligence it shares

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Speaker 1: with the US in the Caribbean. Both countries have concerns

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Speaker 1: US military strikes against nineteen boats, killing seventy five people

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Speaker 1: contravene international law and amount to extra judicial killings of civilians.

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Speaker 7: We have very strong partnerships with the UK and other countries. Again,

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Speaker 7: nothing has changed or happened that is impeded in any

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Speaker 7: way our ability to do what we're doing, nor are

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Speaker 7: we asking anyone to help us with what we're doing

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Speaker 7: in any realm and that includes military.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't quite understand that, But then it's about

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Speaker 4: blasting those people in the boats. The UK and Colombia

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Speaker 4: don't want to be any part of that. By the way,

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Speaker 4: a court ruled, whatever court ruled yesterday, that none of

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Speaker 4: these military personnel would be on the hook for the

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Speaker 4: strikes on the people in the boats. If it's decided

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Speaker 4: that we shouldn't be doing this, they're not legally on

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Speaker 4: the hook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad. I understand the concept of you're

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Speaker 2: not obligated to execute an illegal order, But I mean

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Speaker 2: if it's such a gray area that like the entire

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Speaker 2: country is arguing about how justified it is, Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: can't no, no, no, the military can't hold people responsible

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Speaker 2: for following off.

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Speaker 4: Well, the military would completely break down if you were

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Speaker 4: on the hook for you couldn't do anything before you

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Speaker 4: ran it by a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, if there were, for instance, controversial rules of engagement,

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Speaker 2: Hello Afghanistan, guys would be thinking, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: get sued, So just how much firepower do we have

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Speaker 2: in the region.

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Speaker 1: The USS Gerald R. Ford, the world's largest warship, is

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Speaker 1: now in Latin American waters after being ordered by the

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Speaker 1: Pentagon to leave its deployment to the Middle East ahead

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Speaker 1: of schedule. The aircraft carrier Strike Group, with nearly four

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Speaker 1: thousand sailors on board and dozens of warplanes, is being

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Speaker 1: escort by three guided missile destroyers. Twenty four percent of

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Speaker 1: all US Navy vessels are now deployed to US Southern Command.

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Speaker 2: That's quite the armada. Well, we've got to respond to

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Speaker 2: the threats of Jamaica to the Bahamas with their foreign ways.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a strong opinion on this story. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure we'd hate to see any Marines die landing on

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Speaker 4: the beach in Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: I hope that's not what's going to happen. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 2: got to admit I usually have a pretty good guess

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Speaker 2: as to the end game of this sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't in this case. I get, well, we're pressuring

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Speaker 2: Majuro and putting, you know, the squeeze on his regime

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Speaker 2: because we want him out. It's time for regime change.

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Speaker 2: But we're not going to invade or decapitate.

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Speaker 4: The only thing that makes sense is what you said

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Speaker 4: the other day. If we're putting so much firepower in

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Speaker 4: the region that if there is an opposition group that's

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Speaker 4: ever thought of, you know, pulling a revolution or a

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Speaker 4: coup of some sort, they would feel like the United

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Speaker 4: States is there to back us up immediately if we

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Speaker 4: do this, right, give. The problem with regime change in

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Speaker 4: Venezuela is that the military seems very.

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Speaker 2: Cohesive and very loyal to Maduro. There have not been

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Speaker 2: signs of the sort of cracks that you'd hope for.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I guess I'd forgotten i'd said that, But

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Speaker 2: it was a good point, Joe, that if any of

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Speaker 2: the generals are thinking, now's our chance to get rid

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Speaker 2: of this fat bum, the US is saying we'll have

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Speaker 2: your back.

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Speaker 4: So different topic, but maybe this is tied in a

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Speaker 4: little bit. Maybe you've heard some of the polling on

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, where it's not really that good right now

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Speaker 4: shows it only thirty three percent of US adults approve

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Speaker 4: of the job he is doing. That's from the latest

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Speaker 4: Associated Press Nork poll. Now, every president goes through rough spots.

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Speaker 4: I remember when Barack Obama is in the low thirties

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Speaker 4: shortly after Obamacare.

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Speaker 2: And he bounced back. So yeah, they go.

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Speaker 4: Up, they go down, but thirty three percent approval for

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump right now. He was riding pretty high there

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Speaker 4: the first several months. He's only been president for what

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Speaker 4: nine months? Wow, I can't take for nine months of

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Speaker 4: a whole time strong enough. The numbers going down, driven

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Speaker 4: in large part by a decline and approval among Republicans

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Speaker 4: and independents. He had been rock solid among Republicans all

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Speaker 4: through his first term and through the first couple of

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Speaker 4: months of this term. According to the survey, only about

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Speaker 4: two thirds of Republicans now approve of Trump's government management,

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Speaker 4: down from eighty one percent in March and like ninety

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Speaker 4: percent at the beginning, down to two thirds of Republican

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Speaker 4: support and independence have gone from thirty eight to twenty

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Speaker 4: five twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Oof. Ah, that's low. U. How many bonus points does

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Speaker 2: Trump get among Republicans? Because the left is so wacky

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Speaker 2: and the and the attacks are so constant. Even if

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Speaker 2: I don't like what Trump's doing, I'm gonna say I

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Speaker 2: do despite the left in the media.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if that has you would do

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Speaker 4: with approval ratings. As we've seen, he's gotten elected president

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Speaker 4: twice at almost three times with very low ratings. Because

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Speaker 4: when it comes down to the binary choice alternative. You

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Speaker 4: think and still prefer this over that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I guess the bottom line of what

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering is what's the actual approval rating among Republicans.

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Speaker 2: You think it's well, they're not talking to some polster. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can almost guarantee it's lower. I just don't know

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Speaker 2: how much lower it is.

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Speaker 4: I know it's the word of the week, but I

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Speaker 4: think this affordability thing is a huge problem, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know how you're going to make people feel like

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Speaker 4: things are more affordable.

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Speaker 2: The great Man of the common touch, billionaire Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: practically miraculous how he connects with middle class working people,

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Speaker 2: has been saying, no, you shouldn't be worried every time

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Speaker 2: you go grocery shopping. The economy's great. I'm not getting

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Speaker 2: enough credit. Oh man. He's got to stop saying that

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Speaker 2: stuff like yesterday. Yeah, no kidding. So we do lots

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