1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. Now this has an e g R valve. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: It's an electronic e g R valve. Because Ford decided, 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: since they could make a vacuum control d g R valve, 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: they would make a problem that much worse and make 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: something electrical because looking go wrong with them. It's got 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: a coburator or rough data floor and windows torn up 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: the car The car Doctor, what made you change sensors? 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: You know, if we've got a curb machine, even the 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: lights come on to see what was going on and 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: give me the electron wheel suns. They say, I replaced 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: it twice and it didn't make any difference for winner 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: of week or started. We're doing the same thing again. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian, the Car Doctor, 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: call in The garage doors are open, but I am 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five and now 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: running Sometimes simple gets complicated. It just does. It's auto repair, 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, It's just it's changing all the time. You 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: always learned something new every week We had camera in 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: the shop this weekend. It was it was a simple thing. 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: It needed a couple of tire pressure sensors. They were 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: leaking out the stems. The stems were corroded and you know, 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: customer complaint losing air out of the tires. And I said, well, 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, let's look at it. We looked at it. 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: Diagnosed that, you know, had two leaking stems out of 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: these two tires, so you know, replace the sensors, program them. 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: I learned something here in that I didn't realize that 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Toyota now has two levels of sensor or two levels 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: of system. I should say, there's a low line in 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: a high line. The low line is a basic tire 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: pressure monitoring system, and a high line will display obviously 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: as much is the low telling you that there's a 35 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: low tire, but the high line version will display the 36 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: tire and the location on the dashboard in front of you. 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: It's it's it's that's how they call it. They call 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: it a low line in a high line, so you 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: have to be careful. I haven't figured out how they 40 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: how they're doing it. They both broadcast censors at three 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: fifteen mega hurts. But there's something different in the programming 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: that allows it to display actual sensor information. Maybe there's 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: a separate channel. I don't know what they're exactly doing, 44 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: so something else to look into in my spare time. 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: But the point is we went about it and programmed 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: these two centsers, put it in the car, and it 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: was done, fixed next ready to get me in the 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: next car. I always like to road test things, you know, 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: especially when they're done and and and final check it. 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: It's just And sometimes even after I final check at 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: the car, it's sat for a day, the customer was 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: late and getting there to pick it up, and I said, 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, let me just take this car out for 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: another rode. And in the interim I had kept the censors. 55 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: I wanted her to see the sensors so she understood 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: where the leak was, so she could see the corrosion 57 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: around the stemp because it's true obvious. You'll see this 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: white corrosion, this calcification around the rubber stem and around 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: the rubber seal in the middle part of the stem. 60 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: You'll see that, hey, this was a clear cut leak. 61 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: So I go off down the road. I'd go, you know, 62 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: west on Prospect Street and I can just drive the 63 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: car around for a couple of three or four minutes. 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: I felt the breaks we had done, breaks we had done, 65 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: some tire work, tires, TPMs, sensors, um, a couple of 66 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: the things. And I was just listening and getting a 67 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: feel for the car and getting a sense, making sure 68 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: what was good before I turned it back to her 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: as she was coming to pick it up in a 70 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: short period of time. And it was great. The car 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: really felt strong. You know, it's nice you can feel 72 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: a difference in the car that you've just worked on. 73 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: It gives you a sense of pride. You know you're 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: even after all these years, are doing this. It just 75 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: makes you feel good that you've accomplished such a good thing. 76 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: And then it just disappears in a moment because you 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: get back to the shop. And on the way back 78 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: to the shop, it was it was funny, right I 79 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: pulled into the parking lot. I backed it into parking 80 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: spots so it was easy for you to get out, 81 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: nice and straight and ready to go, and the tire 82 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: pressure light popped on. Huh. And when I looked at 83 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: the dashboard, you know Murphy's law. Right, just as you 84 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: think everything is perfect, Murphy's Law. I'm gonna get ahold 85 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: of Murphy one day and it said one of the 86 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: new censors we had just changed was bad because it 87 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: was reading zero on nuts and exactly say that. But 88 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: it was close. And god, I guess I got a 89 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: bad new censor. I guess it's possible. And I'm thinking, 90 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: let's see it's it's it's it's four forty. She'll be 91 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: here at five. Now what do I do? I think 92 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: I got time. I think I can make this happen. 93 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: As I'm rolling it up to the door, the second 94 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: light pops on or the second censor shows zero. Wait 95 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: a minute, I've got two bad new sensors and the 96 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: two seven year old sensors in the back of the 97 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: car still displaying on the dashboard is having good tire 98 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: press sure, no, no, no, wait a minit now something's 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: something's cock eyed here. I got out some tools. I 100 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: I walked around the car. I read everything. All the 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: sensors were reading good. Sensors. Didn't show me any faults 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: in the trouble codes and entire pressure module. Let me 103 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: go further the road tests. Maybe something didn't initialize. You 104 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: know your mind, you start to you panic, a little 105 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: bit and you're a little you need to clear your head, 106 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: like what am I missing here? I went around the 107 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: block and sure enough, the light went out and it 108 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: fixed itself as I got back to the shop that 109 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: I came back on again. And this is one of 110 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: those moments you're like, it's it's like the twilight zone. 111 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: You're going, I think I've seen this before. Where have 112 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: I seen this? It was very eerie, like I remember 113 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: this over the like I'm looking around me like I've 114 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: had this experience. And then I realized the tire pressure sensors, 115 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: the old ones are intact, and they're sitting on the counter, 116 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: and every time I got close to the shop, the 117 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: car would start to read both sensors. Is when you 118 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: program a tire pressure sensor, you clone it, all right, 119 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: and you'll just clone that same serial number and you'll 120 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: put it, you'll put it the same number into the 121 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: tire pressure module. So it's looking for that serial number, 122 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: broadcast on that frequency that number, and now it sees 123 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: both sensors, and now it's confused. Easy enough fixed. I 124 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: took both sensors, broke them, put them in a vice, 125 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: and you know, vented my frustration with a hammer and 126 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: showed that sensor whose boss, and uh it worked. That 127 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: fixed the TPMs light. But what it didn't fix was, 128 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to make sure. I wanted to 129 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: make sure that each sensor, as with its unique serial 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: number and identifier, was broadcasting correct left front, right front, 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: right rear, left rear. So I took the tool out 132 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: and I read it, and actually it was correct. It 133 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: was doing what it was supposed to do. It's just, 134 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, you have those moments where simple becomes complicated 135 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: because there's no margin of error in order repair. There's 136 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: no there's no such thing as yeah, it's just okay, 137 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: it's good enough. It's there's no such thing as good enough. 138 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: It's got to be right, you know. Right is a 139 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: great word in the end, you know. And I've left 140 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: the two broken sensors on the counter because this is 141 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: the second time now that i've I've forgotten this rule 142 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: about you know, don't leave sensors on the counter because 143 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they start to broadcast out to the 144 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: parking lot. And it's just amazing how how strong of 145 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: a signal a little sensor with a little tiny battery 146 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: that kind of seeing your key fob or your watch 147 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: will generate a signal and transmit to a car what's 148 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: a good two feet away. And I guess the point 149 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: of roal of this is is simple becomes complicated, and 150 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: then it becomes simple again because there's always an easy answer. 151 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: There's always a reason, there's always a rationale. It's not 152 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: it's not all cars must do this, or it must 153 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: be Friday. And this is the reason why though Murphy's 154 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: Law did kinda so in a way, auto repair is 155 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: a great thing because it makes you humble again, right, 156 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: It keeps you ground that, it keeps you, um, it 157 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: keeps reminding you who you are. You know, somebody once said, 158 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm in a paraphrase to hear that if 159 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: you listen long enough, life will tell you who you are. 160 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: And auto repair does that very well. It um it 161 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: won't let you get too far ahead of yourself and um, 162 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, still get you to fix the car. So 163 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: just a little bit of a story from the shop 164 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: this week. So just just be mindful, right, UM, I 165 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: think the rule is gonna be from now on that 166 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna break the old sensors by rule in the shop. 167 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: Just we're trying to save it for the customer not 168 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: thinking that it's going to be that close. I wanted 169 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: to show her. You know what, I'll show your old parts. 170 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: It will be a broken sensor though, because I'm not 171 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: going through this again on a Friday at quarter to five. So, um, 172 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: just just a little bit of a different thing to 173 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: open the show today. I guess that is the repair 174 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: of the week. By the way, let me point out 175 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: that we are making some changes to the website Car 176 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: Doctor Show dot com. I've talked with the web people. Um, 177 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: you're gonna see all of the YouTube library or the 178 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: most recent additions to the YouTube library right up on 179 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor Show dot com page. So we're gonna 180 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: be able to just send you to Car Doctor Show 181 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: dot com. You'll be able to get everything, all the 182 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: videos that we're doing up there. And what we're trying 183 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: to do is just make ourselves more informational for you, 184 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: so that the information that you hear me talking about 185 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: on the show is going to be now presented on 186 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: the website in the form of video. If I do 187 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: a video and I talk about it here on air. Um, 188 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's a couple that we're waiting to post 189 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: right now and that's what's generated all this, so our 190 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: webmaster or our web people will be taking care of that. 191 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: We're also going to be setting up a forum, I 192 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: don't know forms the right word or a chat concept 193 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: so that you can actually, you know, while we're on air, 194 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: we can talk back and forth via the chat. If 195 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: you hear a comment about something, you want to comment 196 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: about something, you can do a chat forum and that 197 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: we'll do it right on our website as well, so 198 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: that we have better connection to you. My goal going 199 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: forward for this year and for the years to come, 200 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: God willing, is that I want to hear more from you. 201 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: I want to hear more what's on your mind, and uh, 202 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, tune this thing. No pun intended to what 203 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: it is you're looking for, because you know it's not 204 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: just about me, it's about us, right. I want you 205 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: to hear more of what it is that I'm trying 206 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: to say, and I want to hear more of what 207 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: it is that you're trying to say. So just look 208 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: for those changes coming up in the next couple of weeks. 209 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: Let me pull over and take a pause. We are 210 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: at eight five zero zero zero. I am Ronny in 211 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor Aby Lee assisted today as always by 212 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: Executive producer and chief Engineer Tom Ray. Will both be 213 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: back right after this. Don't go away. Whether it's a 214 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: little red Corvette or you go. You've come to the 215 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: right place to get that car fixed. Ron and any 216 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: in the car doctor eight five five five zero zero zero. 217 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron. Hey, let's get over to Marie 218 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: in Maine and see what's going on with her Chevy 219 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: and Pala. Marie, come to the car doctor. How can 220 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: I help? Hello, glad he Um, I have the two 221 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: thousand twelve Chevy and Palla with a weak in front 222 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: main seal and I didn't I didn't. Um. They told 223 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: me fifteen hundred to fix it. And then somebody else 224 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: told me, oh that might be so Um, somebody else 225 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: tell me put additive in it. So I put the 226 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: lucas um stuff. You put the oil, you put it 227 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: with the oil stop leak. I only had seventy miles 228 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: with that product in there, and um, the only difference 229 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: that I could see that that made was before all 230 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: the lights were like on on the dash and they 231 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: kind of lingered, and now that this stuff is in 232 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: there doesn't do that anymore. So I attributed that to 233 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: possibly low oil pressure. Well is this okay? So let's 234 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: let's that's my no nothing get well, that's okay, So 235 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: let's back up a second. What lights are on on 236 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: the dashboard? Well, the break lights and all kinds of 237 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: lights went on and the brake and uh I can't right, 238 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: but they lingered, you know, that very kind of dyeing 239 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: and you don't take care of it right away until 240 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: the electrical junk in the caago is a little crazy. 241 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: Well but anyway, that's it's going good now. But I 242 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: was wondering that worth me putting the hundred into to 243 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: put the to them to replace the things. Well, let's 244 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: let's let's let's take it from here. Okay. I know 245 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: of no reason why putting an oil additive, a stop 246 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: leak additive into a crank case is gonna make dashboard 247 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: lights go out. So I'm trying to discern, do you 248 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: have two separate issues and it's just a matter of 249 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: coincidence that caused the lights to go out? Did you 250 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: ever have a sit ouation, did an oil pressure light 251 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: ever come on? Did you ever have an indication where 252 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: you might have low oil pressure? No, but I didn't 253 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: um it was the fall a couple of years ago, 254 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: and there was like a line like on the side, 255 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: and it totally made everything dead in the car. It 256 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: fried the brain and I had that even after that 257 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: vanity light light. Right, Marie, your phone is cutting out, kiddo, 258 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: So are you are you? Are you in one Are 259 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: you in one place? Because I want everybody to be 260 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: able to hear you. Okay, So let's go back a second. 261 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: Did you, real quick, did you see it or have 262 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: an indication that it was low oil pressure? No? No, 263 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't have any gauges in there. It doesn't have 264 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: any gage. So you know, have you asked your mechanic 265 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: about the you know, why are the dashboard lights on? 266 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: Has he given you an indicator? Why? I mean, they 267 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: don't stay on, you know, just when you start him Okay, 268 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: you started up, they go on for a second and 269 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: go off. So I don't think that's really a big deal. Okay. 270 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: So that's and that's a different that's different than what 271 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: you were saying before. But that's fine. So let's go 272 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: back to Let's go back and talk about the oil additive. 273 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: You know, first of all, to do a front crank 274 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: seal or an oil pan gasket, which one did they 275 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: say to you it's the front main seal. They took 276 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: a picture of it, a leak in in front in 277 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: the front of the oda. All right, so the harmonic 278 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: balancer has to come off and the seal gets pried 279 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: out and replaced. If I remember the job correctly, it's 280 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: probably all of it's a half a day to three 281 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: quarters of a day's work. Let's call it six hours 282 00:14:54,680 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: of labor. Where come from the dealer? But the dealer 283 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: told me, well, I kind of find that I think 284 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: that's a high estimate if we're talking about this, if 285 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about the same thing front crank seal on 286 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: A twelve and pala a V six. This is the 287 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: V six correct, That's all that was in that motor 288 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: at that time. All right, this, this is the balancer 289 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: comes off and it gets pride out and pressed in. 290 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure where they're coming up with bucks from. 291 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: I'd get a second opinion. Yeah, taking it apart, yeah, 292 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: I'd get a second opinion there. You know, the seals, 293 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: the seals twenty bucks, they're they're they're talking over twelve 294 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: or fourteen hours of labor. I don't know where they're 295 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: coming up with that. Number. Either that or there's there's 296 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: something else going on here that they're not explaining to you. 297 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: Do you have do you have another mechanic you can 298 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: go talk to? Yeah, I would, I would get a 299 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: second opinion in this case. That's too that's too radical 300 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: of a difference. Or they're talking about pulling down the 301 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: front oil pan and resealing the pan as well as 302 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: the front crank seal, and that's possible, but do a 303 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: crank seal if we're going to assume a hundred dollars 304 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: an hour labor rate, that's fourteen hours plus material. It 305 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: just seems kind of high. So I think I think you, 306 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: I think you would do well to get a second 307 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: opinion there, Kuldo. As far as fixing it, yeah, I would, 308 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: because oil leaks just tend to get messier and it's 309 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: just going to eventually work its way through the car 310 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: and eat into the rubber, pushings underneath and mounts and 311 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: just make a general mess of things. Although in Maine 312 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: it would be good for you because it would help 313 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: undercoat the car and help keep the car from rusting out. 314 00:16:52,320 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: Uh that's why. Yeah, I've not replaced fell. You know, 315 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: it kind of comes it's it's the devil, you know, 316 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: not the only way you might get so. Um, but yeah, 317 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: I would, I would definitely go back and get a 318 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: second opinion on all that and see what else somebody 319 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: can offer you. You know, oil is a good undercoating 320 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: corrosion preventative. Um. At that point you might as well 321 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: go find something like the New Hampshire Oil Company and 322 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: let them undercoat the car and get the oil leak 323 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: fixed and let the car last longer. We all have 324 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: to change, and I appreciate the call, Marie. Let me 325 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: know what ends up happening. We all have to change 326 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: our way of thinking as far as is the car 327 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: worth fixing two thousand miles, it's ten years old. Everything 328 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 1: is worth fixing now. We can't find replacement cars right now. 329 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: We can't. We have a hard enough time finding parts. 330 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: Finding cars is a whole another story. So you really 331 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: want to consider repairing what you've got and keeping it 332 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: going longer, and uh, you know it's going to really 333 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: change the face up. While my car is not worth fixing, 334 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: I want to bet go price a new one, and 335 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: go try and find a new one, and price any 336 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: form of a replacement new war used eight five five 337 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: zero zero. The car doctors coming back right after this. 338 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: Sorry wrong, but welcome back. Tom is looking at me 339 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: like I'm crazy. I'm hitting the light switch going why 340 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: can't I talk? Yeah, I was wondering why the lights 341 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: went out of the studio. It's that kind of a day, 342 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: you know. It's just uh uh sometimes simple gets complicated. Tom. 343 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: I think it's where we started the hour, so uh, 344 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, just just just you gotta laugh at yourself. 345 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: You have these moments, you know, I um listen, sometimes 346 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: as simple as obvious, it's right in front of you. 347 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: And if you can't laugh at yourself, just look at me. 348 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: I'll laugh at you for you. Well that's it, you know. 349 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: It's hey, listen I was talking about you know, and 350 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: you learn something new every week, right. I was talking 351 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: about New Hampshire Oil undercoatings just before the break and 352 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: um uh, you know, you get out to nh Oil 353 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: undercoding dot com you can start to read some of 354 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: the stuff they have, because we were talking about it 355 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: this weekend last week. Um, they now have a or 356 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: they've had it for a while, a mouse preventative oil 357 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: that they'll treat the vehicle to avoid pests, which I 358 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: kind of find depressing because I kind of liked the 359 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: stories and the challenges of trying to diagnose chewed up 360 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: wires from animals. But in all seriousness, they've got an 361 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: oil that will treat the chassis of the car to 362 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: keep it from having road an invasion, pest invasion. It's 363 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting stuff. What got me thinking about 364 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: them again was we had a customer a couple of 365 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: weeks back whose truck came back from South Dakota and 366 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: the entire truck was coded in sand, and I said, 367 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: you know, why is there his sand? It's sticking to 368 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: the He lives in New Hampstree. He says, well, I 369 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: use New Hampshire oil undercoating and it works so well 370 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: it sticks. But he says, I came from South Dakota 371 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: and now the sand is gonna be there. I'll take 372 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: a little while, it'll wash off in the oil undercoating 373 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: will still be there. It'll give us some clean factor. 374 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: So you know, the stuff really works. But they're always 375 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. They've now they've got a mouse 376 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: preventative um, which I'm thinking about all the cars that's 377 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: sitting in garages. Uh, you know the classics and stuff. 378 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I wonder how effective that would be, so we might 379 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: reach out to them and talk to them about that 380 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: at some point, guessing they're not allowed to use that 381 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: at this new world. Probably not so, probably not allowed 382 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. So there's a lot I 383 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: could say about that, but I won't. Let's let's go 384 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: back to the phone, Tom. Let's go back to Greg 385 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: and Iowa two thousand buick park EV and no ground 386 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: pulse to the injectors and injector problem. Greg. Welcome to 387 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: the car, doctor, sir. Tell me the story. Oh it's 388 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: a long and I'm not sure you have time for 389 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: the entire story. Go ahead, I've got I've got another 390 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: year or two left. Go ahead. Well, this all started, 391 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: uh when I took it to a mechanic and it 392 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: was missing. It was a number two misfire. And I've 393 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: got a you know, a cheap scanner that I figured 394 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: that out with, and so I took I went to 395 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: take a look at it myself, and I pulled the 396 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: plug wire off of the coil pack and it basically 397 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: fell off in my hands. It was all sooty and nasty. 398 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I think I need new plug wires 399 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: and probably new plugs, and it's got a hundred twenty 400 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: eight thousand on it at this point. So I did 401 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: the front three and I'm like, yeah, um, I don't 402 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: want to do those rear ones. Those look horrible. So 403 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: I took it to a mechanic. The mechanic called me back, 404 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: told me that my engine was toast and um, it 405 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: had no compression in number five cylinder and the other 406 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: front to ur half what they should be. And I'm like, 407 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: what that can't be because fine, when I took it 408 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: to you drove in right, Yeah, I drove in, drove 409 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: in fine. It would only it would only set the engine. 410 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: It would only run bad enough in a forty five 411 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: minute trip to set the engine code maybe once just 412 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: kind of stumble a little bit, and then it would 413 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: snap out of it. So I'm like, well that that 414 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: can't be. Anyway, I went and I paid him, and 415 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: then when I pulled pulled it out of the driveway, 416 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: it would hardly pull itself out from a stop sign. 417 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: And then I took it to another mechanic who quickly 418 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: figured out they got the plug wires messed up. Um, 419 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: and so all was fine there, but then a week later, Um, 420 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: I drove it to work for five minute commute, turned 421 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: it off, came back out. It would crank, no start, 422 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, cranking, cranking, crank, but it would never fire, 423 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: and um it has done that ever since. And I 424 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: took it to a dealership who told me it was 425 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: the upper intake and I'm like, well, I don't see 426 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: how it can be the upper intake when I've had 427 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: no signs of any leaks. I'm like, how did you 428 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: discover this leaking? He's like, well, we looked at it, 429 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, WHOA, Okay, I guess you're a mechanic, 430 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: but it sounds like to me it take an awful 431 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: lot of Anni Freese to make it not run, because 432 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of three point eights, and when 433 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: they do go, they usually have signs first a leaking 434 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: anti freeze um you know, or the worst case, a 435 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: hydro lock. Neither of the case was going on anyway. 436 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: They replaced the upper intake for eight hundred dollars, and uh, 437 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: you know, of course I didn't fix it. Um so 438 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: intermittently it will not start, and I did some googling. 439 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: I replaced the crank sensor and the CAM sensor because 440 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: it won't do this when you want it too, so 441 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't troubleshoot it. And I'm like, well, I can't 442 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: get stranded. So I replaced the crank and the CAM sensor, 443 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: and then it did it again. And then at that 444 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: point I tested the CAM and crank censor with all 445 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: I have, which is a fluke meter, and from what 446 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: I gather, it looks like it's pulsing. And then I 447 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: did some more troubleshooting and figured out there's no ground 448 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: pulse to the injectors. And I used a test light, 449 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: which I've heard seeing different things where it's fine, seeing 450 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: other things where you can damage the PCM doing that 451 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: at any rate when it's not running and not starting, 452 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: there is no ground pulse to the injectors. And then 453 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: I thought, okay, well maybe security, maybe PCM. I don't know, 454 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: but I I googled, what you know. I found a 455 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: PCM that they would program to your VIN for sixty 456 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: bucks on eBay. So I did that and guess what, 457 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: it's still doing it and I'm out of ideas. I 458 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: here it's the ground, but I just don't know. Okay, 459 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: so has from the sounds of it just and I'm 460 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: not defending anybody. It has nothing to do with the 461 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: first mechanic. He's just he's just incompetent enough by himself 462 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: that he couldn't put it back together right because it 463 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: ran for could be But keep in mind, my my 464 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: dip stick was blessed. Um. I had a fuel week 465 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: after that, you know. I mean, I just wondered, okay, 466 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: for the crawling around on the engine, maybe they kicked 467 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: the connector loose. Maybe I don't know. Well, here's get 468 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: crawled around enough to break the dip stick. So and 469 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: the other reason I say that is is not to 470 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: defend him or anybody, but it's just I just want 471 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: to treat this like a broken car. I want to 472 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: have that in the back of my head, but I 473 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: don't want to let that skew my judgment and how 474 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: I test something. All Right, the dealer is completely lost. 475 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to I just have to ask, did you 476 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: have to pay the dealer for the intake? Plentiment didn't 477 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: fix it? I did. I called, I complained, And what 478 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: I did gather from that conversation is that when they 479 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: went out there, it started. So what they should have 480 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: done is called me and said, hey, this starts, what's 481 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: the deal? But they didn't. Then they speculated to you know, 482 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: what was going on in let's let's let's let's let's 483 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: sell something. We need lawn furniture today. Yeah. So from 484 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: the sounds of it, my first question would be when 485 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: it's no start, doesn't have spark, Yeah, it has sparks, 486 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: so it has spark, no injector pulse, which is a 487 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: typical classic case on that car of an anti theft event. Yeah, 488 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: but during and I read in the manual, and I've 489 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: also read online that during an anti theft event, it 490 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: won't crank. And I don't know if that's true or not, 491 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: but that's exactly what it says in the manual. Let's 492 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: then let's let's let's give it an anti theft event. 493 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: Although I disagree with that. My understanding is it will 494 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: crank but not start, and it won't start and it 495 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: won't provide injector pulse. If I remember two thousand Buick Park, right. 496 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: I have read that online, um, and I've read that 497 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: it won't crank. Now keep in mind, when I put 498 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: the new PCM in, it didn't know the keys. Um, 499 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: so when I tried to start it with a new PCM. 500 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: It would not crank at all until I did the 501 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: learned procedure and and then it would, but still wouldn't 502 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: ground pulse to the injector. Well, why don't we bypass, 503 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: Why don't we just put a bypass kid in for 504 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: the anti theft. There's kids out there, and what they're 505 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: gonna do is they're gonna they're gonna take the resistance 506 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: value of the key and always programming in because I'm 507 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: betting you've got a broken wire inside the steering column. 508 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: This one's a p K three. It's not the resistor kind. 509 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: It's just old enough to have the RF. What is that, holloway, 510 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, agreed to the key via electronic 511 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: field versus the resistor. So it's a hall effects set up. Yeah, yeah, okay, um, 512 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: let's bypass it. So well listen, the only way I 513 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: know that car goes into a crank no start condition 514 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: and it's injector no injector pulse. A crank no start 515 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: loss of injector pulse is a classic definition of an 516 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: anti theft event. That's the only way I know that occurs. 517 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: If it has spark, it's not crank if it has spark, 518 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: it's not CAM alright. The PCM is actually looking for 519 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: um a square wave signal on on circuit for thirty, 520 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 1: which is the purple white from the ignition module going 521 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: to the power contrain. The PCM if it doesn't if 522 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't see that, it says, well wait a minute. Um. Now, 523 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of scanner you got. You 524 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: could look at the scanner and watch censored data. You know, 525 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: does it show you cranking rpm? At least I don't 526 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: have a good scanner. It's like a thirty dollar piece 527 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: of garbage. But I did check the purple white because 528 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well maybe the the I also, by 529 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: the way, I didn't tell you this, but I replaced 530 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: the ignition control module because I've got three of these 531 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: cars with the same motor, and I just pulled one 532 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: off of another motor. Obviously that did not fix the problem. 533 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, well, the current, the CAM and 534 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: the crank are good. The I c M is good. 535 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: So then I checked that purple white. But I can't 536 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: find anywhere how to check it exactly. But I assume 537 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: that it's the same way you check the CAM and crank. Uh, 538 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, which is a square wave there? So I 539 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: figures a square wave on the purple white, right, you're 540 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: gonna think you're gonna have You're gonna have a digital signal. 541 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: Do you have another one of these cars that runs 542 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: check it on that? Uh? Yeah, and I haven't done that. Um, 543 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: but what I get is a two and a half volts, 544 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: which is the same thing I get out, you know, 545 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: And that's about half of what I'm supposed to have. 546 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: And my PLUKEE is a pretty fast meter, so I 547 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: think that's telling me, well, chances there, but yeah, it's 548 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: chances there. But understand, what you're doing is you're you're 549 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: trying to display a digital signal on a meter. It's 550 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: just showing you an average. The reason you want to 551 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: see that on a scope is because you want to 552 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: see cleanliness and clarity of signal, and you want to 553 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: see that it's reaching its height and reaching its bottom. 554 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: So you know you're I do have access to borrow 555 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: something that could do that. Listen, let's let's do it. 556 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: Do this. Okay, do this verify it's got spark? If 557 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: if this is no injector pulse, do you have any 558 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: propane Uh, yeah, well I don't have a way to 559 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: square to down. I've got some brake fluid or no, 560 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't do that. Go go go spend the go 561 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: spend another hunter Bucks. Go buy a propane Enrichmond tool 562 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: set up. Get out to a rileyotoparts dot com and 563 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: you'll find OTC makes it. I remember the part number 564 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. And UM, get yourself 565 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: and get yourself a propane Richmond tool and you can 566 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: order it online and they'll deliver it to you. And 567 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: then at that point, UM feed it some propane, prove 568 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: that it's only loss of injector pulse, that it has spark, 569 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: Proved that it will start, and when it's that, then 570 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: start chasing it. From the perspective of this is an 571 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: anti theft event, get yourself a better scan tool. You'll 572 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: see more data. What you're trying to do is fix it, 573 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: but you can't do it without a couple of more tools, 574 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: because you're just gonna make it worse by swapping parts. 575 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: Do those things. Call me back next week. I'll be 576 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: glad to talk to you again. I'm running any in 577 00:29:55,120 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor back right after this. Welcome back, Rannie 578 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: of the car Doctor. Let's get over to David and Tennessee. David. 579 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Oh? 580 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: Good talking to with you, sir. Uh. Last week it 581 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: was the first time I've ever heard you on tell 582 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: on the on the radio, and I thought, this guy, Uh, 583 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: this kind of seems to know what he's talking about. 584 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: So I thought I would pick your brain on a 585 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: Volkswagen t d I. UM, I know that it's the 586 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: people that is getting shorter and the crowds of people 587 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: are getting smaller and smaller that know how to how 588 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: to work on these cars because they've quit producing them. 589 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: But when I bought the car, UH, it came with 590 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: a forty eight thousand mile warranties from Volkswagen. I said, 591 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: no matter what caused the check engine soon light to 592 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: come on, Volkswagen will repair it. So I have no 593 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: check engine soon light on. But during cold starts, when 594 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: uh I first started, especially in the winter the colder weather, UM, 595 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: I do start it and let it let it warm 596 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: up for a minute. But within a hundred yards of 597 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: just pulling out of my driveways, a simple deceleration I'm 598 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: not talking about I'm in it on high RPMs. I'm 599 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: just pulling out of the driveway. I let off the 600 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: gas coming into the first curve, and I hear a screaming, 601 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: almost whistling noise that coming. It sounds like from the 602 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: left side of the vehicle. Um, there's you know, there's 603 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: so many filters and so many different hoses and things 604 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: with diesels, there's not many people that know how to 605 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: work on them in the closest Folkswagon dealer's like forty 606 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: five miles away. You're saying, driver's side of the vehicle, David, More, 607 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: it's sound to me it's coming more from that side. 608 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: You know, how long has it been? How long has 609 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: it been making How long has it been making this noise? Oh, 610 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: I've been waiting for the check an so might to 611 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: come on? Is my problem? About six months? Maybe a year? Okay, 612 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Stay right where you are, David, 613 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: Stay right where you are. Let me pull over. Take 614 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: a pause so we don't run long into the break. 615 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: Let me let me take the pause. When I come back, 616 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: we'll continue. Don't go away. I'm running any in the car. 617 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 1: Doctor will be back right after this. Welcome back, right 618 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: name of the car doctor. Let's get right to David 619 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: and tennessee David, you're there, sir, Yes, okay, I got 620 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: I got two minutes. So let me let me ask 621 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: a couple of questions. Um, when when it's making this noise? 622 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: Is it only on D cell or is it under acceleration? 623 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: Or is it while you're idling along? What's the what's 624 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: the best way to describe how the noise occurs only 625 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: on the cell? And it's uh, and it's lower speed 626 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: D cells when it's warmer, I don't have when it 627 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: gets warmer, I don't hear it. Okay, have you tried 628 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: pop Is it an automatic or a stick? This is 629 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: a stick, right, it's the B S G transmisson automatic. 630 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: M Have you tried popping it into neutral during the 631 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: times that it whistles? No? All right? And well? And 632 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: I guess I guess that's not a valid request though, 633 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: because from your description, the minute you took your foot 634 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: off the fuel pedal, it will stop making the noise. 635 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: It goes all right, kind of like a whistle or 636 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: a scream. If you pull over the side of the road, 637 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: if you pull over to the side of the road, 638 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: shot the car off while it's making the noise. Could 639 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: the noise continue even with the key off? All right? 640 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: I don't think it would. I really don't, all right. 641 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: The most common failure from what you're describing, and you 642 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: will likely not get a check engine light until it 643 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: gets much much worse, is what we call a crank 644 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: case ventilation valve. Some people might refer to it as 645 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: the PCV valve, small valve under the air box threather 646 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: hose on each side. You're gonna find it's either stuck 647 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: or sticking if you What you could try is loosening 648 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: the oil fill cap. If you can get it to 649 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: happen while you're sitting there idling in the driveway. Goosen 650 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: the oil fill cap and see if the noise goes away, 651 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: or possibly loosen the cap duct tape it in place 652 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: so it kind of rattles, but it will at least 653 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: crank case pressure on its owner to pull the dip 654 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: stick out of the tube a little bit. Take it 655 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: for a ride. If the noise is gone, you need 656 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: a crank case ventilation valve. Get it repaired. It's pretty 657 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: simple and clear cut. Until the next time I'm on 658 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: an any in the car doctor. The mechanics are expensive. 659 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: Get priceless m