1 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, oh, I haven't said that in a while. 2 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: And we're back Brown Ambition, Manny and Tiffany. We're still 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: looking for that intro music. Mandy like I need you 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: to do a rap. 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: I've kind of moved on. I feel like okay, I 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 2: feel okay. The people like it. I love how you 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: got really deep with. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: The Hey hey, I feel like you went a little. 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: Very Arry Manilo, Wait. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: Which one? Is it? 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Very white? 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: You're very white? Okay I almost said very black, but 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm pretty sure that's how the name. 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, so some what's buzzy? Well, first of all, 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: I have to have to have I saw you posted 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: it on our Brown Ambition Facebook page and I literally giggled, 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: watched it again, giggled, and send it to everybody. 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: Black girl, I know what? 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: Do you know? What I mean? So the Today Show all, MG, 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: what is happening over there? So do you want to 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: tell the story or should I? 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I didn't know it was just 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: it just happened this week. I thought this was like 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: an old clip or something, but apparently, poor Savannah Guthrie. 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: They did a segment on The Today Show about summer 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: hairstyles and you have three beautiful women of color sitting 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: on stools and they're about to get one minute hairstyles. 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: First of all, you tell any brown woman she can 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: do her hair in one minute, and she will tell 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: you that it is a lie, a lie, a both 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: face lie. 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Unless you have locks, and even then it's just to 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: take them out of a point deal. 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: I can tell that producer did not do her fact 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: checking because data and statistics what I've shown takes at 36 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: least seventeen minutes to get anything resembling a good hairstyle, exactly. 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: I digress. Anyway, So you see this woman. I don't 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: know who she is or like what her business is, 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: you know how she got on national television. But all 40 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: you see is the girl in the middle getting the 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: most ridiculous like hairstyle ever, and she's just like talking 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: really fast over this poor girl, this poor model's head 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: as she's yanking her curls and messing them up, like 44 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: you see. What kills me is you see the expression 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 2: of the model's face and it is like such a 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: fake smile, like. 47 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because she knows, she knows she can feel it. 48 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: You know, first of all, she came out there with 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: beautiful curls. 50 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 2: Like it fine. 51 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: It looked fine, and it's all the woman had to 52 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: do was maybe a bobby pin on each side and 53 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: like maybe scooped it up. We would have been good, 54 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: but she forceived no Mandy. When she said I'm gonna 55 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: do a side ponytail, I nearly peed my pants. A 56 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: side ponytail. First of all, what is she five? And 57 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: then she proceeded to pull this girl's this woman's hair 58 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: into the craziest looking and like, you know, she didn't 59 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: have the lengths first of all, for a ponytail. If 60 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: that wasn't bad enough, she took her bag and these 61 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: curls that were already done. There's a you know, like 62 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: if you're gonna like separate a woman of colors curls, 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: you do so gingerly, so you keep the bounce. No no, 64 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: she pulled them apart and just frizze them up. I 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: literally I couldn't even breathe. I was laughing so hard. 66 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I have to send this to everyone. 67 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, people have been posting it saying Jesus be 68 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: Offence Essence posted it. It was like what is going on? 69 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, everyone is like I can't I can't. I 70 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: looked it up. I did some research and I can't. 71 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: I just can't. 72 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: She looks like Patty Mannaise from Doug after she was 73 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: done with her. 74 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: Yes, it's not a cute look. 75 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: Then you just see her face because I have to move. 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: It's only supposed to take a minute, right, So they 77 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: go to the next girl and all you see is 78 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: this poor model like being The camera's panning away and 79 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: she's just looking horrified, like what have I allowed to 80 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: be happened to happen to me? 81 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? Who? 82 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: Good touch? Bad touch? Everybody? You don't have to stand 83 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: for that. You don't walk off the air. 84 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just get up and say I won't. I won't. 85 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: We have to find out who she is. If you're 86 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: out there, hair model, yes, and you want to speak 87 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: your mind, this is a safe split, This is a 88 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: safe space. 89 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: You can do that here. Oh my god. So if 90 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: you are so, I've been letting my dream Dreamcatchers know 91 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: that we are. You know we're here. I haven't been 92 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: like sharing us as much. So if you're a new DreamCatcher, 93 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: say hello, like comments, leave us a review on iTunes, 94 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: the dream Catchers. 95 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: I have a pretty good feeling a good chunk of 96 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: our listeners are dream cutchers, and I'm not mad at that. 97 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that like some new ones because you 98 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: know now that I put them in a goodie email. 99 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: So this is our goodie every week on top of 100 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: whatever else I send out, Like in the goodie email. 101 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: We started it this week, so so hopefully we have 102 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: some new folks to listen and they in and they enjoy. 103 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: Make sure you follow Mandy cause sometimes you guys will 104 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: tag me. I'm like, where's Mandy? So make sure you 105 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: follow Mandy Money right on Instagram. I'm right here. 106 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: I've been here all along. 107 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Mandy with an eye though, Mandy Money on Instagram. So yeah, 108 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: because someone tagged me in something and it was hilarious. 109 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: They're like, I'm listening and they tagged me. I was like, 110 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: tag Mandy. 111 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: Thanks, always looks out for me. 112 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, any other buzzworthies, I'm like looking through like 113 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: our feed, like what else is buzzy? 114 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: Well? I want to go ahead and tease. We have 115 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: a really special guest on the show today that we 116 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: talked about last week. Yes, our first guest in a while, 117 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: miss Keana, and we've had our conversation with her, get 118 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: a tissue. I'm just gonna say, get a tissue, grab 119 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: a friend, call your mom, do whatever you can before 120 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: because this interview will just give you life and inspiration 121 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: in a good way. 122 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it will. It just it'll give you the 123 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: warm and fuzzies, and then it's gonna make you say 124 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: I can do it too. 125 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tease it and say that she may 126 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: or may not be a DC. Is that what you 127 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: call yourselves? 128 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: A DC DC DreamCatcher? So we don't have to be high. 129 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: We've got the dream catchers. I like it, right? 130 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: What else? 131 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: Man? 132 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: This week at work? I yeah, I've been leaning in 133 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: and I'm feeling the pain. It's a lot. I just 134 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: feel really overwhelmed. I'm not gonna lie. Work has been 135 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: overwhelming overwhelming. Okay, yeah, so it's been I don't know 136 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: if but if you've ever well people out there, you've 137 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: been running your business for a while, but when you 138 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: start a new job the first it's always kind of 139 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: like there's a transition period in the beginning, and there's 140 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: just so much to do and everyone's pulling you in 141 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: different directions, and it's kind of it's taking me a 142 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: little while to sort of like focus, like a little 143 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: bit longer than I would have liked to say, but 144 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be a little bit nice to myself 145 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: and just say, Okay, it's a brand new job, like 146 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: you'll get the hang of it, and I am. But 147 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: since we're not going to do a tip section later, 148 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: I want to do my little book recommendation now, okay, 149 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: because this week I was really struggling, like I was like, 150 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: oh my god, I don't know if I can handle this. 151 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: I was like working twelve hours and coming home late, 152 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: and I downloaded this book on my kindle. It's called 153 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: The First ninety Days. Now I know I'm sixty days late, 154 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: but I'm catching up this book. Let me make sure 155 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: I got that. It's like a it's one of the 156 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: it's constantly on the bestseller business books. But it's not 157 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: the kind of book that's like super sexy that you would, 158 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, just pick up at Barnes and Noble. But 159 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: if you are starting a new job, or you've been 160 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: recently promoted or something, I would absolutely recommend getting this book. 161 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: The First ninety Days is by Michael Watkins, and it's 162 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: been out for like a decade, but it's still like 163 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: the advice is so good. It was recently updated, and 164 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: it basically helps you navigate your first ninety days on 165 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: a new job, like whether you've been promoted or you 166 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: did what I did and you're switching companies completely. And 167 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: I think one of the things that resonated for me 168 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: so well that he says in the book. And this 169 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: is a guy who has worked. He's a Harvard Business 170 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: School professor, so he knows this stuff. 171 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: He said. 172 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: He talks about how when you start a new job, 173 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: especially if it's like a step up. So for me, 174 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: I was going from being a reporter to now running 175 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: a team and like being a manager for the first time. 176 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: And he said that what we so often do is 177 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: we focus on the thing we were good at that 178 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: like made us really good at her old job. So 179 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: for me, that was being a writer, and then we 180 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: lose sight of like all the other stuff that is 181 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: sort of like part of your new job, and then 182 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: it can kind of lead you to fail. And I 183 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: was sort of seeing that in myself. When you get scared, 184 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: you go back to what you know, and I was 185 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: focusing a little bit on, you know, a little too 186 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: much on writing when I should have been focusing on 187 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: other stuff that was sort of more scary to me. Okay, 188 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: so he kind of like he like shook me, shook 189 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: me awake a little bit this week, and I'm feeling 190 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: like I'm getting back on track. 191 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's good and honestly too, sometimes, you know, I've 192 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: I was talking to my sister the other day because 193 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: she was like so disappointed that she applied for something 194 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: and she didn't get it. She's trying to switch jobs, 195 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: and I told her, you know, sometimes it's it's the 196 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: overwhelming feeling that helps you grow and push to the 197 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: next level. 198 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, if you're not terrified, then it's 199 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: not worth. 200 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: It exactly, and you just you're And I told her, like, 201 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, there's always going to be something that makes 202 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: you say, oh my god, I can't I totally can't 203 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: do this, and then you'll stretch and you'll grow, and 204 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: you'll grow in your stretch, and then that thing that 205 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: used to be so hard won't be so hard, but 206 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: it'll be something new. And I said, you know what 207 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: will happen is you'll get better at managing the emotion 208 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: of I don't know how to do this, honestly, I 209 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: don't know how to do anything at the budget East, 210 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: Like everything we knew that we do is always like 211 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: there's no precedent for it as far as in my life, 212 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, so there's always like, so, how do you 213 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: build an online academy? 214 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: And I don't know, but you figure it out. How 215 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: do you start a podcast? 216 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know exactly, you didn't know you were, Like, 217 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: so I did some googles and but you figure it 218 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: out if you want it, and so yeah, I just 219 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: think that, like I it's okay not to know, it's 220 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: okay to be overwhelmed, but you won't always feel like that, 221 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: and putting one foot in front of the other really 222 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: can create something magical. 223 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: Totally, and it's easy to be really hard on yourself. 224 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: Like I'm very ambitious obviously, I got the brown ambition 225 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: bug and money. When you feel like you're not, you 226 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: know you I talk a lot of I just like 227 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: I said, you know, it's not terrifying, it's not worth it, 228 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: Like I always get that advice, but this is like 229 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: I genuinely take my own advice. And it's it keeps 230 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: being terrifying and it keeps being stressful, and you kind 231 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: of have to like learn how to trust yourself and 232 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: be nice as you're going through those growing pains, because 233 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: they're real and it like can bleed into all the 234 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: you know, I'd be like a little bit snappier to 235 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: for fiance boo. You know you you always have your 236 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: like pretty game face on during the day, and then 237 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: you go home and it's like you I turn into 238 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: like the monster from the crypt. It's like, what did 239 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: I do that? 240 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: You're breathing. 241 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: But it's not okay. So I'm I you have to 242 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: sort of like I'm trying to get better at like 243 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: managing my emotions and not letting every little setback like 244 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: pile up on top of itself. Yeah, and just like 245 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: put me in a funk. 246 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: You know what I've been doing lately, I've been I've 247 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: been telling this to other people too, but I've been 248 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: doing this for myself lately. That helps, But because I 249 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, you're going to get in a funk sometimes, 250 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: and some funks you're really just supposed to stay there 251 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: for a little bit, but most of them are barely temporary. 252 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: So what I've done is I created like my like 253 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: anti funcalists, like things that I like to do that 254 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: usually lift my spirits, so like taking a walk. I 255 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: love reading like random books, you know, not like I'm 256 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: not talking like I love reading marketing books. But if 257 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm in a funk, I want to read like the Devil, 258 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: Where's Prada? You know, like just something fun. I love 259 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: Fixer Upper on HGTV. My jail right, isn't the first 260 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: of all? Joanna and Chip games. They are so freaking 261 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: and adorable, aren't they. 262 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: I don't think they're real. I think they're like aliens. 263 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: I just love Joanna. I'm just like Chip Chip. 264 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do some recess lighting in here, Chip Chip, 265 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: stop throwing that football. Chip. 266 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: I told you right, And her taste is amazing. I'm 267 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: like Joanna fixed my life and so I you know, 268 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: so that's another one of my life, you know, feeling 269 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: like my uplifting things I can do. It's all like 270 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: all my lists. Indri is another one. So I have 271 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: like a list of things that when I'm in a funk, 272 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: maybe take a nap. So when I'm in a funk, 273 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: I'll run through them, like, let me take a nap, 274 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: still mad, let me go for a walk. Oh I'm 275 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: feeling better. Let me call Cabral and ask him to 276 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: go out to dinner. He's one of my really great friends, 277 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: and he just has such a great, warm spirit and 278 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: so and usually once I get down to two or 279 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: three or four of the list, it will have broken 280 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: or at least receded some. And so I encourage people 281 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: to do that, to make a list of the things 282 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: that really bring you genuine joy, and like, if you're 283 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: feeling some kind of way, to kind of work your 284 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: way through them. And sometimes none of them work, honestly, 285 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, well, I'm just in a bad mood, 286 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 1: and so I just try to avoid people for a 287 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: few days. 288 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: All right, Guys, Tiffany, I'm so excited for our guest today. 289 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: I am super excited for her too. 290 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: We don't often just invite random pace bowl off the 291 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: streets of America onto the podcast, but when you get 292 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: an email like the one that I got from miss 293 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: Keona Harris from Houston, Texas, you just got to have 294 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: her on. We talked about her last week, but just 295 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: to recap, Keona decided to do her summer break for 296 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: her daughter, her thirteen year old, just a little bit differently, 297 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: you know, no camp. She decided to do a fifty 298 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: state road trip throughout the entire United States that she's 299 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: doing a little chunks and pieces this year. So far, 300 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: she's already been to twelve states with her daughter, which 301 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: is pretty impressive. But they're not just like taking pictures 302 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: in from the world's largest like porch chair and stuff 303 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: like that along the way and eating at cracker Barrel. 304 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: They are doing all kinds of volunteer work and just 305 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: being all around a super cute mom and daughter pair. So, 306 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: Keona want to welcome you to Brown Ambition. 307 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, Mandy, Thank you Tiffany for having me. 308 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: So why we decide to do a cross country road 309 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: trip with your daughter when she's thirteen? Like, does she 310 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: appreciate it? How cool you are? 311 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: You know what? 312 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: I don't think she does. 313 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: No, she's she's nine, So she's she doesn't nine? 314 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's nine years old. 315 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, at the time she's thirteen. You want to finish it? Oh, okay, 316 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: I got it right. 317 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 4: So I'll tell you I've always wanted to travel with her. 318 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: Travel experience is a big deal to me, and so 319 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago I decided to you know, 320 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: start our our fifty state World tour or you know 321 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: us tour we did a road trip with some fam 322 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 4: with some cousins and we went from the South up 323 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 4: through like DC and back, and so that kind of 324 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: was the catalyst of it. And so each up until 325 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: she's thirteen years old, I want to see all fifty 326 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 4: states by the time she's thirteen, and then when she's thirteen, 327 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: we're gonna go internationally and hit one continent each year, 328 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: so that by the time she's twenty years old, she's 329 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: seen the world. 330 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: That's the bigger vision. 331 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: Seeing the world, seeing the United States, especially at a 332 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: young age, it's really just going to open. 333 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: Up her, just her. 334 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: The way she thinks about things. But yeah, go ahead, Mandy, 335 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm just like, Wow, I'm in awe. 336 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: Honestly, I want to know. I mean, this must have 337 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: come from a personal place for you. Why was it 338 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: so important for your daughter to see the world. Did 339 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: you do a lot of traveling when you were younger? 340 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: Actually, not at all. 341 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: I am born and raised in Sacramento, California, and I 342 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: didn't leave California until I went away to college. So 343 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 4: at seventeen, I went to Xavier University in New Orleans 344 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: and that was my first time out of the state. 345 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: Wow. 346 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: And then. 347 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: And then I did a lot of traveling in college. 348 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: I had friends from DC, from Atlanta. We were everywhere 349 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: in my little red sunfire. Wherever the sunfire could get to, 350 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: you got there. And then I went internationally for the 351 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: first time. I was actually pregnant with my daughter and 352 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: went to to Italy to Europe, and there was a 353 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: little and I was super nervous being on a plane 354 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: going out of the country. But there was a little 355 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: boy who was like seven years old, flying by hisself, 356 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: and I asked him, I said, are you nervous? 357 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: Are you scared? He's like, no, I do this all 358 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: the time, and now here I am this. 359 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: Big, twenty six, twenty seven year old woman, all scary. 360 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: But I love meeting new people and learning new cultures 361 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: and just experiencing life outside of you know, the world 362 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 4: is bigger than your corner store. 363 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: You know all of that. 364 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: So I've always wanted I think that's important and important lesson. 365 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: I want to. 366 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: Leave with her, leave her with Okay, it's let me 367 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: get out of your your box. So I think the 368 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: burning question that a ton of people are thinking is 369 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: how how can you afford to do this? How are 370 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: you making this happen? 371 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: Financially well, last maybe it was last year or the 372 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: year before, Tiffany, I thought I joined your I joined 373 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: your dream Catchers. Look at that, and that was not 374 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 4: a set of as, it was not a setup. I 375 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: found brown ambition because of dream Catchers. So I've started 376 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: following you. I think a friend of mine told me 377 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: about the liver Riture Challenge, and so I did that 378 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 4: and I followed it to a tea. It was two 379 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: years ago, and within that year, just following your ten 380 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: day program, I paid off all of my debt except 381 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 4: student loans. 382 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 3: Those are forever and give her take, give or take. 383 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 4: Still working on that, but I paid off all of 384 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 4: my debt, and I opened up my money buckets and 385 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 4: my savings and my budgeting, did everything that you suggested 386 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: and really didn't change my life and how I view money. 387 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: And one of my money buckets was my travel my 388 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 4: vacation bucket, and so I bought a house that year, 389 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: like all kinds of stuff. So now I have student 390 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: loans and a mortgage that's gonna be forever. But this 391 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 4: year and my money bucket for our vacation, I've been 392 00:17:58,680 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 4: saving like one hundred. 393 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: Dollars a month. 394 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 4: Okay, so equals twelve hundred dollars, right, And that was 395 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: the budget, the cash that I took on this trip, 396 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 4: and I stayed accordingly. I wanted We're going through twelve 397 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: different states, so I said, I want to spend at 398 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 4: least one hundred dollars in estates. 399 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: Including gas, lodging, food. 400 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: So the cities where we went and we could stay 401 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: with friends or family, we did that. And then the 402 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: activities that I found in advance. 403 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: A lot of times they were free. 404 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: It's you know, free to go into see different monuments 405 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: and things like that, and I can't. Actually I came 406 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 4: back with money still, so that's amazing, pretty good. 407 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: You want to do a slow clap. 408 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: I know, honestly, I'm cheesing because that's not what I 409 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: was expecting you to say. And I you know, it 410 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: wasn't a setup. I'm like, no, that is. It's stories 411 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: like that that make you know, like what me and 412 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: Mandy do, like that's the reason why you know that 413 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: we think that women in particular, you're capable, and you're able. 414 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just the lack of not knowing how. 415 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 4: Right, and it does take this so and I'm a 416 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: single parent as well, so you know, if something is 417 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 4: important to you, you make provision for it. 418 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 3: And travel is very very important to me. 419 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: This experience is very important to me, so I made 420 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: sure to make provision for it. 421 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: Well, I just want to say, as you know, I 422 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: grew up when I was when I was your daughter's age, 423 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: my mom had just gotten divorced, and I remember those 424 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: years after the divorce as being like the best years 425 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: with my mom. So I think it's so cool what 426 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: you're doing because you never are closer to your your kids. 427 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: I don't think until something like that happens. 428 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, and that's true. 429 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: Actually I went through divorce last year too, so a 430 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: lot of changes in our lives and happened in a 431 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: short amount of time and going you know, coming through 432 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: and from that. She's the only child, so I don't have, 433 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: you know, I don't have to divide my attention to 434 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 4: other kids. I just wanted to, you know, give her 435 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 4: the best of me, and hopefully I'm doing that. I 436 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 4: also I worked, you know, I left my planned it, 437 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: you know, financially planned as well, to leave my full 438 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 4: time job to pursue entrepreneurship. I'm a private coun a 439 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 4: licensed counselor and I started my practice full time two 440 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: months ago, and while she was spending the summer with 441 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 4: her dad, I just felt like, when she comes back this, 442 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: I won't never have this time again. I don't have to, 443 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 4: you know, request PTO. I don't you know all those 444 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 4: different things that you do when you have a full 445 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: time job. So I said, let me just go ahead 446 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 4: and and just do this and when school starts, that's 447 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 4: that's it. That's all I got. 448 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you always hear these stories about these surveys 449 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 2: and studies. You know how many Americans don't take their 450 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: vacation days or take time for a family. I mean, 451 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: you made it work. You're a single parent, you're working 452 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: full time, transitioning to you know, your own business. What 453 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: advice do you have for other people, other parents out 454 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: there who just feel like there's no time for them 455 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: to do this sort of thing. 456 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 4: Well, when you say there's no time, we we have 457 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 4: to prioritize ourself. Work is always going to be there. 458 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: And I was one of those people when I had 459 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 4: PTO days to take, but I could or wouldn't because 460 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 4: the work would get backed up, and I just really 461 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: had to look at my situation or you know, look 462 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 4: at my things, like what's most important or what is 463 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 4: more important to me? 464 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: My child was going to. 465 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 4: Daycare all day, go to school all day, and I 466 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 4: didn't get home till time, just put her to bed. 467 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 4: And I didn't want that life for her, you know 468 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't want that life for us. So 469 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 4: I had to have a you know, let her look 470 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: atself and say, you know, I don't need to give 471 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: my the best of my years and my time to 472 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 4: an institution when my daughter needs me most. And it 473 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 4: was scary, like entrepreneur life is not all that you 474 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: know I thought it would be. It's definitely not sexy. 475 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: Every you know, I need a job. I need a job. 476 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: Why you better talent? Everybody? I want to be an entrepreneur. 477 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: It is not. 478 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: It is not. 479 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 4: But then I have friends that say, you don't need 480 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: a job, you are your job. So I have a 481 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 4: lot of encouragement, a lot of encouragement around me. 482 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for it. 483 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: And then even as a counselor, when I have families 484 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: come in, you know they're dealing with their the issues 485 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 4: of their teenage children, and it's not necessarily too late 486 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: to reach their child, but their child there's a disconnect 487 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: because they didn't reach them when they were six, seven, eight, 488 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 4: nine years old, So now they're sixteen and there's a 489 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: breakdown and you want me to fix it. So yeah, 490 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 4: I just see the value of putting family first, what's 491 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: the most important, and prioritizing that way. 492 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: I have an unrelated question to like finances or even 493 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: what we're really talking about, but you just brought up 494 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: something interesting. I've always wondered and Tiff and I have 495 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: kind of touched on this before. When you're surrounded by 496 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: people who have all this energy and then you're kind 497 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: of taking on the energy, like as a therapist in 498 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: your job, how do you protect yourself from all that? 499 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: I'm assuming negative, not happy energy, and I think anyone 500 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: could probably it's this advice just in every day life. 501 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm waiting with breath because I get you. Oh my god, 502 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I can't pay this or I 503 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: don't have that, and it can be a lot. So yes, 504 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: what do you do? 505 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 4: Well, it's as a therapist, you we are trained to 506 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: we don't own someone else's problem or issue, So I don't, 507 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 4: although I care and I empathize, it's your problem to 508 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: fix out and to you know, resolve. I'm just here 509 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: to help you, guide you through it. So sometimes the 510 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: things that people say un till you are very heavy 511 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 4: and just being human, it's easy to you know, absorb that. 512 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 4: But that's why you Every therapist has a therapist or 513 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 4: should have a therapist. You have to have your own 514 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 4: your own outlets. And yes, yes, I if it's not 515 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 4: a therapist, you're you. I have good friends, like my 516 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: best friends, my you know, family members who I can 517 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: just be myself with. And self care is very important. 518 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 4: Do the most of what you know is important to 519 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: you to relax. I love water, so I moved to 520 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: Houston because it's closer to the water. I lived in 521 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 4: Dallas before. So whenever I'm just need to kind of 522 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 4: think and get away, I'll go sit by the beach 523 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: or something. I also work out a lot, just for 524 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: the energy, you know, just kind of get some of 525 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: that energy. And I'm a night out. 526 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: I stay up. 527 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: I get inspiration in the middle of the night sometimes, 528 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: so I'll get up and have to write things down. 529 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: And you you. 530 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: I love also children, so my daughter being the only child, 531 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: I will go find kids to play with. 532 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 3: So yeah, I do a lot of stuff like that 533 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 3: with my little cousins, and I'm a. 534 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, they they come around a lot, and they love 535 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 4: game nights and stuff at my house because that keeps 536 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: me not having to be so heavy all the time. 537 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard when you have a kid around there. 538 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: They're like their own form of therapy. 539 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Supergirl a lot cheaper, right, she certainly 540 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: teaches me. 541 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And Maya's fun. This this trip was was amazing 542 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 4: just to see her be nine. 543 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 3: And you know, I. 544 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: Think I had did a video for my Facebook page 545 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 4: just what I learned from her about just being slowing down. 546 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: So I'm usually it's a real go go go type 547 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: of person. And Maya's very like sauntering and slow. So 548 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 4: while we were walking through Chicago and I'm like, on a, 549 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 4: I'm on a time frame, like we got to see 550 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 4: this side and we gotta get back in the car 551 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: and head to Milwaukee. And I'm walking real fast. I 552 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: have long legs and my stride is a lot longer 553 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 4: than hers. And she would she grabbed my hand and 554 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: she was like, Mommy, let's walk. Like she tried to 555 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: walk in step with me. We'd have to count down 556 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 4: and walk on the same foot. So she just saw 557 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 4: that as it's a game to her. But I took 558 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 4: that as mommy, slow down, don't miss the journey, you know, 559 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: trying to get to the destination. And so if there's 560 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 4: a lot of lessons to have been learned just in 561 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: that experience, if you pay attention to your kid, you 562 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 4: can learn so much. 563 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: That is such a sweet image you just painted. I know, 564 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: I might, I might have teared up. I need to 565 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: go call my mom real Q. 566 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: No, that's just so so. If you if there's someone 567 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: who's listening and they're like, oh my gosh, I want 568 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: to even if it's not with their child or or 569 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: maybe it's with their significant other, by themselves, I want 570 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: to do that. What's what would you tell them, like, 571 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: the first step, the first thing they can do. They're like, 572 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: I have dad, I don't have any money. You know, everybody, everyone, 573 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: This is what I get from everyone, like I don't 574 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't have the income, I don't make enough, and 575 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: I have a whole bunch of debt. What would you 576 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: say their first step should be. 577 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 4: The first step would be looking your own backyard. I 578 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 4: live in Houston, and there's so many things to do here. 579 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 4: I have yet text me, I've only been lived here 580 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: a year, so a lot of times the museums have 581 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 4: free days or you know, find something that that's within 582 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 4: with within your budget you're laying and you'll get the 583 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 4: same expense. Because if it's your you know, your your 584 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: child or your children significant other. Just enjoy what is 585 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: available to you. What are your options. Don't look at 586 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 4: what the next person is doing or have done. It's 587 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 4: one it's free to help people. The community service thing, 588 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 4: I literally posted in a Facebook group. 589 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm a counselor from Houston. 590 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 4: I'm going on a road trip and I want to 591 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 4: serve the communities while i'm there. Any any nonprofit organizations 592 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: out here willing to let me come do something? 593 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: And I got responded that way. 594 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: All it took was an email or you know, something 595 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 4: like that. It doesn't really it doesn't take much money. 596 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: It takes your time, but it doesn't take money to 597 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 4: do something like that. 598 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: We didn't even get to the really cool part of 599 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: your story. The other part is the fact that you guys, 600 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: you know, we're doing volunteer work. Can you talk about 601 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: some of those experiences? 602 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: Sure? 603 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 4: So, aside from travel, community service, I'm really really big 604 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: on being a good citizen and giving back in your 605 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 4: community wherever you are. And that's another nugget. I want 606 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 4: my daughter to know an experience. And so when we went. 607 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 3: To not in every city, we didn't get to do 608 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: something I tried. At first. 609 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: I had went into like a United Way website and 610 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: trying to connect with you know, bigger nonprofit organizations. But 611 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: there their systems are set up a little different where 612 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: you have to have a background check and you know, 613 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 4: stuff like that. And so that's when I put that 614 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: ad out into the Faith book group. And I'm met 615 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: online a lady named Sheena Thomas, and she has a 616 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 4: nonprofit group she mentors kids. And this was in Arkansas, 617 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: and so she invited me to come out and I 618 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 4: did a group with them. They're about about fifteen adults 619 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: or parents and then about twenty to thirty children. And 620 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: the activity that I did with them, it was so amazing. 621 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: So I had the child sit in a chair. They 622 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 4: were like the king or the queen on the throne, 623 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: and I had all the parents adults, they had to 624 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 4: come down the line and say something positive about this 625 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: child to the child. And so if you you know, 626 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: if you imagine a kid sitting there, and you have 627 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty adults coming down the line affirming you, 628 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: encouraging you, saying that you're smart, you're beautiful, you're worthy, 629 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 4: and it just felt so good. And there was some 630 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: mother daughter pairs or some you know, it was a 631 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: mom who got when she got in front of her daughter. 632 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: I think the little girl was like maybe sixteen or seventeen, 633 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: and you could see the things that she was saying 634 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 4: was very heartfelt. And at the end, I had asked 635 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: the kids, how did it make you feel to hear 636 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: such positive things about yourself? And then you know, they say, oh, 637 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 4: it felt good. And then but when that seventeen year 638 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: old girl she said, at first I was just hearing, 639 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 4: you know, I heard what they were saying. But then 640 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 4: I really listened to what they were saying, and it 641 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: made me cry because we don't give back. We don't 642 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: give back and talk to our kids that way. Like 643 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 4: one girl she said, you never you don't really hear 644 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 4: good things like that. And especially now, it's so important 645 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 4: to affirm our kids because they are seeing these negative 646 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: images on TV, in social media, or wherever the case 647 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: may be. So it is so important that if you 648 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 4: don't build your child up, your you're not even to 649 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 4: your birth child, your community of children if you don't, 650 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 4: if you're not feeding into them, no one else is 651 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: going to do it. 652 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: So, oh my gosh, you're like my new favorite person. 653 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: Your friend. I know, right, I want to be your friend. 654 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: So can we call each other like around five pm 655 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: every Tuesday? 656 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: No, Honestly, I just wish more people start like that, 657 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: because I truly believe that, you know, giving activates abundance 658 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: and that you don't have to. What I love about 659 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: what you're doing is that you're teaching your daughter that 660 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: you don't have to do these huge acts of service 661 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: to change the world. That you could literally just affect 662 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: the serpent, the small network and circle around you and 663 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: that effect will ripple you know. 664 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you talk about young kids, when I 665 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: was a little girl, it's it's incredible when I think 666 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: back how young I was when I was on a diet. 667 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: I think I had my first diet when I was 668 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: like eight years old, seven years old, and I was 669 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: and you read about kids and how they are, confidence, 670 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: especially young girls, just plummets by the time they get 671 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: into like high school, middle school age from when they 672 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: were little kids and they're so confident, and you're right, 673 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: it's like you need to nurture that confidence and make 674 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: sure it doesn't wane as they get older, because sudden 675 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: it just carries you through college and then in your 676 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: career and then you look up and you have to 677 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: make up for all this lost time. 678 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: Exactly. 679 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: Yep, you had a lucky little daughter. 680 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, one day she'll realize it, because you know, they 681 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: don't realize it. You know, you know how it is 682 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: you were a daughter. 683 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you still are, but yeah. 684 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: Like you know, you don't realize until you get I 685 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: would say late twenties and you're like, oh, so the 686 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: fact that you've fed me and had a please jeep, 687 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: that was pretty awesome. 688 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 4: She's she's a really cool kid, though I don't I 689 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: can't take credit for she She's always been just a 690 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 4: real cool kid. She's the kind of kid where you say, Maya, 691 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 4: what do you want for Christmas? And she'll say, surprise me. 692 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 4: She's always been that way. 693 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 2: Oh she's a better kid than me. 694 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: Get my list out right. 695 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 4: She's always been there. I don't know where this kid 696 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 4: came from, but I'm blessed. 697 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: I'm very blessed to have. I'm God. I'm glad that 698 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: God gave him to me. 699 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: So tell us if you want to follow your work, 700 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: where can people find you? 701 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 4: I have My website is www dot bridges Behavioralhealth dot org. 702 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 4: I am on Facebook as well, Facebook dot com, slash 703 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 4: bridges Behavioral Health and also I'm on psychology today as 704 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 4: Keana Harris, Licensed Professional Counselor that's spelled k e o 705 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: n A Heiress LPC. And you'd probably have to search 706 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: Houston to find me there. 707 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: People of Houston, God of Houston. 708 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. 709 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much for joining us. 710 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: Keanna, thank you ladies. You guys have a good evening. 711 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: You too. 712 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh I feel all warm and fuzzy. 713 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: I know. I love when people are just good people. 714 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god. 715 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: I need to be a better person. How long if 716 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: I lived in my new neighborhood, I haven't done. 717 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: Anything, honestly, And I'm like lazy. People are always like, yeah, 718 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: but you get for a living. I'm like, yeah, but it's. 719 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: Different, Like, well, it's got to be nice to hear 720 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: her story. No, it is literally because of you. She 721 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: did what she instigated in her She accomplished what she wanted. 722 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: And it just it doesn't even feel real, like it's honestly, 723 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: people always say how does it feel, and I'm like, 724 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel always so detached and removed 725 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: because it's almost like I cannot conceive that that's what 726 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: something I created has has helped to bring that about. 727 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: So instead of like because I can't conceive of it, 728 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: it's like over there, you know what I mean. It's 729 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: weird because I'm just like, how this was just something 730 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: where I was like, you know what, I'm so sick 731 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: of tired of everybody telling me that they can't help women, 732 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: especially women of color. I'm gonna make something. I'm tired 733 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 1: of begging these companies and then telling me no, I'm 734 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: gonna do it. And then for someone to say, oh, 735 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: I'm taking my daughter around the country then around the world. 736 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: You're like, wait, what, but I made that in my 737 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: pj's at my house. Yeah. So it's just I'm just 738 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: really grateful and just I love hearing stuff like that. 739 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: But you can tell she was gonna find a way 740 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: she just needed and that's what why, Like I said before, 741 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: that's why it's so important what we do because so 742 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: many women. I think for News told me she was like, 743 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: you know that it's so important, Tiffany that you win. 744 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: She was like, not even for yourself, but because you're 745 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: a woman, and because you're a woman of color. Quite honestly, 746 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: there are gonna be people who would otherwise not benefit, 747 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: but you winning. You know, because sometimes, you know, I 748 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: shrink a little, I'll be like, well, I'm good, this 749 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: is enough, this is and learning to like, no, go 750 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: for it all. Not because of you so you could 751 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: be the limelight or whatever, but because because you being 752 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: out there means that someone who likely would not get 753 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: help or would not be seen or whatever, it's going 754 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: to get that opportunity. And so like I think I forget. 755 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: I think she said that on that panel, you guys 756 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: did something to that effect. And since then I have 757 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: been like not allowing myself to shrink back because I 758 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: feel like, well, you know, it's good enough. I'm doing well, enough, 759 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm making enough, and I think to myself, well it's 760 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: maybe enough for you, but not enough for everyone. 761 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: Well, certain people are always gonna win, and I think 762 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: it's when the people who don't always win, women people 763 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: of color, when we are in positions of power. It 764 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: just makes everything more balanced exactly. And people, yeah, and 765 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: people question it all the time, like what does it matter? 766 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 2: Just you know, what does it matter the color of 767 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: the president or the sex of the president? Like it matters. 768 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: Maybe not to you who's always winning and feels like 769 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: everything is okay, but for the rest of us it 770 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 2: matters hugely. 771 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: So yeah, it does. 772 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me like a little bit of 773 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: a bout come on. 774 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: It's hard. I don't know why. I don't know why, 775 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: but it's always like, oh, that's right, okay, next, next, okay, 776 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: all right. 777 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: We can move along. Then, fine, fine, fine, lavish compliments 778 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: upon me. 779 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: I will take them.