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Speaker 1: You're doing well? You're doing well? How are you this

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Speaker 2: I'm terrific. Ty I get to talk with you once again.

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Speaker 2: We spoke earlier on our weekly Q and A show.

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Speaker 2: It's actually correct. Yes, We've got a pretty great weekend

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Speaker 1: have to offer. But as you said, mister Rubinstein, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this weekend, Today's show in particular is content rich. Uh

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Speaker 1: not quite as rich as Dabo Sweeney with his new

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Speaker 1: It sounds like an old school cameo before cameo.

433
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: Technically, yes, it absolutely was. So Shila, I guess, you know,

434
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: offered some truth to uh, to my ex girlfriend, and

435
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: he was right. It didn't work out, and we move forward.

436
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 2: I'm I'm looking at this week's scoreboard and this week's

437
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: schedule and saying, Okay, where is there uh college football

438
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: saliva hate saliva to be had? Has anybody ever used

439
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: the term hate saliva?

440
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: Maybe not not on our show, but I'm sure it exists.

441
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: So every week, there there's always that that connective tissue

442
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 2: of hatred between teams, and it's just there's too many

443
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: teams that played each other too often, and it's the

444
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,959
Speaker 2: most petty sport there is. And so I'm I'm going

445
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: to count down five I think hate saliva situation. So

446
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: the five would be the driest and one would be

447
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: the gooeyest for the record, for the record, think.

448
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: There was spit you.

449
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 2: If you were to confirm to somebody, if you're just

450
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,719
Speaker 2: to show two random people getting into a fight and

451
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 2: watching one person make a motion and then another person react,

452
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: you couldn't do better than Pine and Styles to outline.

453
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 2: Maybe they're not great actors, but they sure acted like

454
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: there was saliva swapped.

455
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: For lack of a better term, definite lack of a

456
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: better term. Yeah, continue, that's my entire existence, a lack

457
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: of a better term. Okay, So in this week's matchups,

458
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: this is what I have at number five, I have

459
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: Alabama Texas. I don't think there's true, true, real bad blood.

460
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: They're going back to twenty thirteen. There was the Nick

461
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: Saban will he get sick of all of the expectations

462
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa, and there were stories and reports of back

463
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: channeling to see if mac Brown was going to be

464
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: leaving or would be fired, and he wanted to go

465
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: to Texas because he was sick of dealing with Alabama boosters,

466
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: but then he found out Texas boosters were worse. I

467
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to do that.

468
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: And so yeah, obviously you go back to the National

469
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Championship game, gregor Is McElroy and Colt McCoy going down early,

470
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: Garrett Gilbert stepping in and throwing a bunch of interceptions

471
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: but still almost pulling Texas back in that game. They

472
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: were within, for lack of a better term, spitting distant.

473
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: Oh jeez of Alabama. I'm a bad person. Tie and

474
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: you know that by now. Yeah, number four, unless you

475
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: have anything to add for things that you think.

476
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: Oh, this is Saban Saban sark Baby.

477
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saban sark You have that tension as well, but

478
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: there's no real tension because Sarkas said, hey, Nick Saban

479
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: saved my career, and Nick Saban said, hey, sucks a

480
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: great guy, great coach. Number four, I have Kansas State Miszoo.

481
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: So we're getting a little wetter here. So this is

482
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: the almost border war, Yeah, the border skirmish, the border

483
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: altercation whatever.

484
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't think.

485
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't find specific and maybe it's just because I

486
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: am bad at searching my knowledge. Flashlight has low batteries.

487
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: But Kansas State Miszoo were in the Big twelve together

488
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: and Miszoo absolutely got dominated for thirteen straight years by

489
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 2: Kansas State, and then when the Gary Pinkel era started

490
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: taking off, they won five straight and then Missoo said, hey, everybody,

491
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: we're off to the SEC and Kansas State said cool, cool, cool,

492
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: cool cool, but we have one more game to play,

493
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: and Kansas State sent them out on a loss. In

494
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: this rivalry, Colin Klein John Hubert aka did we call

495
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: him John Ubel? I P yeah, we might probably yeah,

496
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: But that era, Missoo Kansas State not the biggest Big

497
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: twelve rivalry, but I always enjoy because we had it

498
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: with the UH with West Virginia and Pitt where we

499
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 2: have matchups that we're used to and then they go

500
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: away and now they're back and we have the chance

501
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: for renewed bad blood. So Kansas State Missoo really interesting

502
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: narratives between these two teams. I think each of these

503
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: teams is when they look at the entirety of their

504
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: schedule or sort of penciling in each other as a

505
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: potential win. Maybe I don't know. I just and I

506
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: like that. I like the history between these two teams.

507
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: I want to think that there is a promo somewhere,

508
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: like a monster truck rally between these two good Dranke

509
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: quits climbing. Yeah, Sunday, you know what I mean, pretty Cook,

510
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: Brady Cook. Yeah.

511
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: Miszoo is one of the better schools where if you

512
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: look at headlines, if you look at storylines over the

513
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: course of the season, there's a lot of Sure they won,

514
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: but there were some concerning parts of that game. Missouri

515
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: occupies that space pretty consistent. Number Number three. Yeah, I

516
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: have Stanford USC No, Okay, a lot of drama lately,

517
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: but you look over the past decade, twelve thirteen years,

518
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: you go back to when Jim Harbaugh gets the cardinal rolling,

519
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: you go back two thousand and nine. That's the what's

520
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: your deal? What's your deal? When Toby Gerhart trampled USC

521
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine, We're talking Kobe Fleeener, Andrew Luck,

522
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: Chris Owusue, Ohen Mauricich, all the you know, the Maurica

523
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: was all these big names.

524
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: That was before jj Arth Thank it was.

525
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: Before our Thik go Whiteside.

526
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely it was.

527
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: But then they keep finding each other, Like coach O

528
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: takes over as the interim coach in twenty thirteen, they

529
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: take on Stanford in the Coliseum, Stanford is number four

530
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: in the country. So now you're talking about Tyler Gaffney,

531
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: Kevin Hogan, Stanford and USC rallies behind coach O Cody

532
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: Kessler buck Allen. By the way, I looked up this game,

533
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: USC rush for point nine yards in a winning per carry.

534
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: Stanford had Tyler Gaffney at six point six in a

535
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: losing effort. So football is a silly game. And by

536
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: the way, just in terms of connective tissue, probably the

537
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: most painful loss for USC of the modern era, it's

538
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: probably that Texas game right two thousand and five season,

539
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: I mean National Championship, probably great game. Texas is co

540
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: d C and defensive backs coach, a legendary defensive backs coach,

541
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: Duayna Keina, currently the defensive back x coach at Stanford.

542
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: So okay, there's always a.

543
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: Little bit of bad blood lurking around the.

544
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: Bit of that, A keen of bad bad blood. Yeah,

545
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: you never know.

546
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: I hate saliva saliva.

547
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, coming out of Harry Styles and into this matchup.

548
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: Have you spit on anybody?

549
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: No, I don't know, not not on purpose. Okay, I

550
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: think it's heinous. No, of course, not what I was.

551
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: Going to say, spit, spit in the vicinity, like put

552
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: two down to the sidewalk, to just indicate that you're frustrated.

553
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: Like a brushback spit. No, yes, no, no, no. What

554
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I'm not convinced that Stanford

555
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: doesn't beat usc this weekend. And I know we disagree

556
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: vehemently on this point. I'm not kidnd that doesn't happen.

557
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: Just saying mar march me through. No Stanford, No, don't

558
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: make me. We gotta keep going here. We got to

559
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: keep going. What's number what's number two? Okay?

560
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: I have Florida Kentucky here, which is weird because it

561
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: has never really been a rivalry because Florida won thirty

562
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: one straight in this matchup, including a nineteen ninety three

563
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: game in which Terry Dean and Danny Warfol combined to

564
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: throw seven interceptions in a winning against Kentucky. A lot

565
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: of those guys involved. If you remember way back. Oh god,

566
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: now I'm gonna get the year wrong. My twenty eleven

567
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: is what sings to my brain. I remember Trey Burton

568
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: sort of the Swiss army Knife. He had six touchdowns

569
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: in this game, and there were a lot of matchups

570
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: where Kentucky was up late and they're like, well, this

571
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: is the year we're stopping the streak at fifteen, and

572
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: Florida just kept finding ways to win and they made

573
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: it to thirty one. Though it was twenty eighteen when

574
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: Kentucky won. They won last year twenty to thirteen, and

575
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: a turnover filled affair for the Gators, sort of the

576
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: beginning of the end for Dan Mullen. But no, this

577
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: is great. The balance of power is such that Florida

578
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: and Kentucky I think, occupy the same space within the

579
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: SEC East. They're probably on that second tier together with

580
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: Tennessee behind Georgia, who occupies the first tier alone.

581
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: It's like I said at the top, this is a

582
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: very very important matchup for the SEC. I mean, we

583
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: had the comment earlier about is Tennessee good enough to

584
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: win the SEC East? You know, we obviously won't find

585
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: that out from this game, but we'll find out a

586
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: little bit more about the pecking order in that side

587
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: of the conference here, which I'm really excited about. And

588
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: I also feel like, you know, Mark Stoops. Mark Stoops

589
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: has very quietly been fighting his own crusade. In the offseason.

590
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: There was the basketball school stuff right where they're he

591
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: He and John Calipari, through Twitter or whatever, are kind

592
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: of sniping at each other back and forth a little bit.

593
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,239
Speaker 2: That would have been number one on my list. By

594
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: the way, if that were a presented option. Mark stoops

595
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: against John Calipari.

596
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm i His teams are always

597
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: very well prepared and this program has continually got better

598
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: under his tutelage. So as we look forward now into

599
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: this matchup with Florida, well we'll get to tie versus

600
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: the world here momentarily, but why don't give me your

601
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: number one?

602
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: Most time it's Sihawk. It's absolutely si Hawk. Of these

603
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: matchups you have not obviously this in the same conference,

604
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: but interstate rivalry, family versus family presumably and Iowa State

605
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: looking to end the streak losing six straight Iowa looking

606
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: by the way, this is there's something wonderful a foot

607
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: that's very quiet, and we haven't really talked about it.

608
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: It's always great to beat your rival, right Ty, you

609
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: would agree, Always, always great to beat a arrival. Always

610
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: potentially even sweeter to beat your rival when you're bad.

611
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: Potentially just a little more agave, potentially.

612
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: Just a little little more sugar just a little bit more.

613
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, look, this is your year to beat us

614
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: for being honest, right, Like, this is your year. Oh

615
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: you lost ten to seven to a really really bad

616
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: version of our team. Man, that must feel especially bitter.

617
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: This is what makes college football special. This is what

618
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: makes college football unique because it is so tribal in

619
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: nature that despite the fact everyone wants to win double

620
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: digits and win a conference, go to the playoff, whatever

621
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: your goals are, you can go one and eleven with

622
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: a win over your most hated rival and the season

623
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: is still worth it. If you're Michigan and you go

624
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: one and eleven, Jim Harboughs fired. But if that one

625
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: is over, Ohio State takes a little bit of the

626
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: sting out of those eleve he'll get a meeting. He'll

627
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: get a meeting to keep his job.

628
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, that's right. There is.

629
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: So there are number of stories, There are number of

630
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: different ways this game has gone over, Like not even

631
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: that long. So Iowa scored forty two and forty four

632
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: points in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen in this game specifically,

633
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: so separated by almost a year exactly because it's always

634
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: what the second week of the season in twenty sixteen,

635
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: forty two to three, Iowa in Iowa City dominates the

636
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: Clones the following year forty four to forty one. That's

637
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: a big swing. Still the same winner obviously six straight,

638
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: but that was preceded two years prior, maybe three years prior.

639
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: Nine to six Iowa stayed in twenty twelve arguably the

640
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: most important nine to six game of all time. Yeah,

641
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: that was a shot at you Alabama LSU, but yeah,

642
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: this game. Iowa State has scored three points twice in

643
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: the last five years in this matchup. And if we

644
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: know anything about the Iowahaw guys, when you score three,

645
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: they're going to score at least four. So there is

646
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Speaker 2: something great about beating your team, even when you might

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Speaker 2: beat even terrible, and that is always on the table

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Speaker 2: in this matchup. Also, I went back and look, because

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Speaker 2: there's a storied history. There's a weird they had like

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Speaker 2: a forty plus year gap where they didn't play, but

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Speaker 2: then they renewed the rivalry in the late seventies. Earl

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Speaker 2: Bruce is the coach of Iowa State, and I look

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Speaker 2: this up with my knowledge. Flashlight batteries were still strong

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Speaker 2: then and he decided to customize the Iowa State uniforms

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Speaker 2: and instead of reading Iowa State across the front, it

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Speaker 2: said beat Iowa and they didn't.

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Speaker 1: They did not.

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Speaker 2: Then they lost it all to ten, brutal, brutal, twelve

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Speaker 2: to ten in the nineteen seventy seven matchup in the

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Speaker 2: Syhawk game. So that's why the saliva, the hate saliva,

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Speaker 2: is especially vicious in these five matchups. And there's a

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Speaker 2: bunch of other good games this week that have their

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Speaker 2: own connective tissue, but those are the five I selected.

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Speaker 1: By the way. Emery in the Chat with a Good

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Speaker 1: One says the most potential tensions got to be Brian

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Speaker 1: Kelly versus media roasting sessions.

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Speaker 2: A lot of burning questions, a lot of burning and roasting.

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Speaker 1: So Brian Kelly makes some offhand comment about a reporter

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Speaker 1: who was late or a group of reporters that was

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Speaker 1: late to his media session, saying, you know, we're going

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Speaker 1: to start a start kind of like a I don't know,

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Speaker 1: a slush fund. Everyone's got to throw in if they're

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Speaker 1: late to these things. And after a bit of back

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Speaker 1: and forth, someone in the media jokingly says, we'll show

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Speaker 1: up on time when you win.

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Speaker 2: That's tough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know he handled it, Okay, he didn't

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Speaker 1: react to it. But a couple more games losing by

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Speaker 1: block kicks or muffed punts or you know, the pressure

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Speaker 1: in the SEC West, especially with all the money he's

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Speaker 1: getting paid, is not going to go away anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: You could argue that it is much much greater than

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Speaker 1: it was even at Notre Dame. And so there is

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Speaker 1: a world in which, and we talked about this earlier,

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Speaker 1: you'll recall there's a world in which LSU goes six

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Speaker 1: and six. I don't believe it. I think ls's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of talent, but it is a brutal schedule.

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Speaker 1: There is a world in which a six and six

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Speaker 1: LSU postseason has some interesting message board fodder as it

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Speaker 1: relates to their head football coach Brian Kelly quote not

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Speaker 1: being the right guy for the job. I am here,

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Speaker 1: as a Notre Dame fan for all of that mainline

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Speaker 1: that into my veins, Dan. I am here for all

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Speaker 1: of the Brian Kelly roasting sessions.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. Yeah, Notre Dame sort of looked like

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame without Brian Kelly. So that's that's I guess

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Speaker 2: good that you can be a Brian Kelly Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: team without Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: I have a take, ty, I have a take on

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Speaker 2: that story, on the Brian Kelly interaction with the reporter

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Speaker 2: about him saying you're late and her saying we'll be

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Speaker 2: on time when you win if you win, something like that.

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Speaker 2: Was that a good burn? I'm not positive it was.

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Speaker 2: It's being treated as if it's a good burn, but

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Speaker 2: it sort of identifies and outlines a universe in which

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Speaker 2: reporters are only on time for wins.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a great burn. I'm not

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Speaker 2: there yet.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: I like that she stayed on her feet, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's an awesome burn.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it as a Notre Dame fan, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I love it. You know, okay, fair enough,