Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Cameradge Edge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself Teddy.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Erica.
Speaker 2: We are here to talk about all three episodes.
Speaker 3: Of Orange count Union Union.
Speaker 2: We're gonna break it down into two episodes, though, but
Speaker 2: we figured, you know, we'll be nice and hot and
Speaker 2: bothered by the time we get to the third.
Speaker 3: I'm hot and bothered already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 3: Not seriously though, Like I this was hard for me.
Speaker 2: This which which part.
Speaker 3: The yelling, and I know that we do a fair
Speaker 3: amount of yelling, but I could not get through. I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna jump ahead and we'll go back to it.
Speaker 3: But like by episode three, i'd had it.
Speaker 2: See because did you watch all three back to back?
Speaker 3: Yes? I did.
Speaker 2: See. That's that's really daunting. See I You're gonna have
Speaker 2: to like refresh my memory on good Luck Out.
Speaker 3: At some point I was I felt like my mail
Speaker 3: side of my brain kicked in. It was like these
Speaker 3: broads are yelling, be you know.
Speaker 2: I just so I separated them and watched them in
Speaker 2: real time. So last night I watched episode three, so
Speaker 2: I went in kind of fresh, and I appreciated episode three.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it all. It's just a lot. I felt
Speaker 3: like I was shooting a reunion while I was watatching it, yeah,
Speaker 3: because you know, you have these these really ingrained memories
Speaker 3: and I just was like, oh my god, Jesus.
Speaker 2: I know. And then it's when they hammered down on
Speaker 2: one moment over and over and over again, and you're like,
Speaker 2: we got it, we got it.
Speaker 3: Please just stop.
Speaker 2: I know you're trying to squeak out three episodes from this,
Speaker 2: but I'm lee, I'm done.
Speaker 3: I'm done too.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I always wonder how poor Andy just lives like this,
Speaker 3: well you know what I mean, Like, I mean, I
Speaker 3: know it's great, God bless you, and you said really
Speaker 3: nice things about me today, so thanks, But you know,
Speaker 3: how do you do it? Andy? Like my god, I
Speaker 3: would just every reunion, whether it's Orange County, Beverly Hill, whatever,
Speaker 3: everyone he hosts.
Speaker 2: I would just But you have to also imagine he
Speaker 2: doesn't just have to hear you guys gapping in his ear.
Speaker 2: He's got little ears, and so people that don't realize
Speaker 2: sometimes when Andy like goes and he cuts somebody off,
Speaker 2: it's not because he's like shading that particular house.
Speaker 3: So I've got nine people in.
Speaker 2: Nine people are telling him what to do in his ear.
Speaker 3: The same for watch what Happens Live by the way. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's like whenever you guys are wondering why he's not
Speaker 3: processing the information, it's because he's got ten conversations going
Speaker 3: on and you can only.
Speaker 2: See two, you know what. It's kind of like my
Speaker 2: head currently just but without anybody else in my head
Speaker 2: just needs.
Speaker 3: To get you more in ears and we're good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: those are the voices. That's sneaking the voices.
Speaker 2: But before we begin recapping, Shannon Badour has officially settled
Speaker 2: the ongoing loss suit with ex John Jansen.
Speaker 3: Does this mean we never see Alexis again?
Speaker 2: I hope so, especially after we'll get into her post
Speaker 2: that she did today.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know anything about that, but we'll get it.
Speaker 2: But this is a People magazine article. Seven months after
Speaker 2: John filed a lawsuit against Badoor for seventy five thousand
Speaker 2: he claimed to have loaned her during the relationship, the
Speaker 2: pair have reached an agreement, and the filing, John stated
Speaker 2: he and Badoor came to a settlement and checked the
Speaker 2: box that upcoming filing for dismissal would be unconditional, and
Speaker 2: submitted within forty five days. This came just one week
Speaker 2: after both Jansen and Badoor requested a jury trial. Then
Speaker 2: Shannon didn't just leave it at that.
Speaker 3: Oh No, she showed us the wire transfer.
Speaker 2: She showed us the wire transfer. But I did appreciate.
Speaker 2: For somebody that only knows how to keep record of
Speaker 2: finances on ripped out pieces of paper, she knew how
Speaker 2: to put the little black line and redact like the
Speaker 2: address on their caller. That's not her, is it Emily?
Speaker 3: By the way, who kicked ass on this reunion?
Speaker 1: I thought so true.
Speaker 3: I thought she was great. And then when you don't
Speaker 3: you call me dummies?
Speaker 2: Do you fucking whack a doodle? But she posts all
Speaker 2: the receipts about the loan, about everything, and then she
Speaker 2: wrote enjoy dot dot dot. I appreciated it, good wordiciate it.
Speaker 3: Good for you. It's over, it's done. I never have
Speaker 3: to hear about it again.
Speaker 2: I really hope not good for you.
Speaker 3: Shannon.
Speaker 2: Well, all right, this is like a scroll. It's so
Speaker 2: many pages. Literally, it's like who Now we've stepped into
Speaker 2: our own reunion. And even though we were cold ten
Speaker 2: minutes ago, now I'm in a full sweat.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: It starts out. They all list off what they want
Speaker 2: to take away from the reunion. I love when my
Speaker 2: nose starts running.
Speaker 3: My nose is running. My eyes of woratering, which means A,
Speaker 3: it's allergies and B nerves.
Speaker 2: But Tarma want her takeaways. She wants to find a
Speaker 2: common ground with Shannon. Tamra is starting therapy, and her
Speaker 2: goal is to find where her anger stems from. Good goal,
Speaker 2: good goal. Shannon says Tamar attacked her and she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to be friends.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Sure. Jen wants her and Emily to step towards a
Speaker 2: better path. Okay. Interesting. Emily says Jen is very reserved
Speaker 2: and questions if it's because of ryanair.
Speaker 3: Goal though I don't know it's. Well, she's a lawyer,
Speaker 3: so they always have all these weird goals.
Speaker 2: True. Then Katie says she wants to own the thing
Speaker 2: she regrets. Do you think she did not?
Speaker 3: I have thoughts later?
Speaker 2: Okay, Heather hopes to walk out with almost with almost
Speaker 2: everyone as friends.
Speaker 3: I respect that. I saw her the other night at
Speaker 3: Kathy Hilton's. She's like, let me take a picture, so
Speaker 3: I look desperate to be.
Speaker 2: On Beverly Hill. Right, hold on, were you at the
Speaker 2: a Jama party?
Speaker 3: Where were you?
Speaker 2: Oh? My invite must have gotten lost in the mail.
Speaker 3: Such a good time.
Speaker 2: You wear the same jammys I just didn't.
Speaker 3: Take Yeah, I just didn't take my sweater off. I
Speaker 3: wore the same pajamas. I just didn't take my sweater off.
Speaker 3: I put them over my sweater because it was cold
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 2: It's always cold.
Speaker 3: It's cold in there, and and it was like, you know,
Speaker 3: the windows, the doors were open, and there were a
Speaker 3: lot of people there. I ate all the food and
Speaker 3: got all the gifts, and this had a really nice time.
Speaker 3: I must have missed Crystal in them.
Speaker 2: Did you get invited to Crystal's holiday party this week? Oh? No,
Speaker 2: you neither.
Speaker 3: How do you know there's one?
Speaker 2: Because going?
Speaker 3: Are they friends?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I wonder if Crystal and well, she probably would have
Speaker 3: invited Garcel and Setting and Jennifer Tilly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love Jennifer Tilly, by the way, because we've
Speaker 2: watched the premiere now, so she's good. Honestly, I'm at
Speaker 2: this stage in my life now and I i'd have
Speaker 2: been at.
Speaker 3: Right now, let me tell you something to read. She
Speaker 3: doesn't know this. I'm going to dinner with her tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: But I put the emoji, like the cigarette emoji, underneath
Speaker 3: her contact and the other day I just texted to her,
Speaker 3: you know what, fuck it. I mean, the poor woman
Speaker 3: is going through a hard time, and you.
Speaker 2: Know, you know what You're allowed to smoke.
Speaker 3: But I'm the secret smokers.
Speaker 2: There's a lot Andy's baby shower. There was more people
Speaker 2: in the backs.
Speaker 3: And some people really liked the menthol that you would
Speaker 3: not expect see.
Speaker 2: But I Drek smokes a menthol. It doesn't matter. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know that Dre smokes.
Speaker 3: She smokes p funks.
Speaker 2: I saw, yeah, but they're menthols.
Speaker 3: I know with somebody else. Another friend of ours smokes
Speaker 3: menthols too.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do know this because I can say from
Speaker 2: time to time, when I was younger, and still occasionally
Speaker 2: after a couple of beverages, I used to smoke an
Speaker 2: actual sig. But I could.
Speaker 3: I saw you smoking in France, yeah, but I couldn't
Speaker 3: with the crew, and I never and I'd never seen
Speaker 3: you smoking out there. And then I thought, she's the
Speaker 3: daughter of a rock legend. Of course she smokes, but.
Speaker 2: It was problematic because I could never bum them from
Speaker 2: Dree because she smokes menthols and I don't enjoy a menthol.
Speaker 3: Well, now she's onto American spirits.
Speaker 2: Oh those are even worse. That's what my dad smokes,
Speaker 2: and they stink and they take fifteen hours to smoke.
Speaker 3: I was at a party. This has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with the show we're making, but somebody was smoking these
Speaker 3: really cool cigarettes from Europe called Vogue cigarettes.
Speaker 2: So sure.
Speaker 3: They weren't clothes, They weren't. They looked like joints. They
Speaker 3: were so thin. It was like I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: is that.
Speaker 2: A free Yeah?
Speaker 3: Looks she gu on her she?
Speaker 2: I think it also depends. My dad said. The rule
Speaker 2: was smoking is if you're a female. Yeah, is that
Speaker 2: you could have? You could enjoy a casual social cigarette,
Speaker 2: as long as you're not doing it while walking. Apparently
Speaker 2: walking with a cigarette is trashy.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, my I grew up with a bunch
Speaker 3: of smokers. My everybody my family smoke except to people
Speaker 3: my mother and myself. Well I couldn't. I just never
Speaker 3: smoked a cigarette.
Speaker 2: Well, you probably didn't want the wrinkles, right.
Speaker 3: No, No, I just couldn't handle like my allergies and
Speaker 3: I have a lot of you know, and I have
Speaker 3: chestnut shit like that, So I always hated it so much.
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, my grandmother, my aunts, my uncle's like everybody,
Speaker 3: everybody around us just smoked, like from the time they
Speaker 3: were twelve, you know, these country people, they were no, like, we'll.
Speaker 2: Go home for Thanksgiving and people won't even walk outside
Speaker 2: the house like they'll just.
Speaker 3: They're going smoking.
Speaker 2: They are going for it. Weake it drinking big reds.
Speaker 2: That's not alcohol, by the way, if you're not from Indiana,
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's like, kind of like a
Speaker 2: mountain dew, but it's red.
Speaker 3: Oh I do know what a big red is, and
Speaker 3: I like mountain dew by the way. Okay, back and fine,
Speaker 3: all right, let's get back and be Thanksgiving with SIGs
Speaker 3: and big reds.
Speaker 2: Cheers sadly, I no longer like the taste of a sack.
Speaker 3: Why don't we get some weed?
Speaker 2: Oh I'm not good on that shock a little paranoid.
Speaker 2: You've seen me I have. It's not good.
Speaker 3: Who else can we head up?
Speaker 2: Okay, back to this, Okay, so Emily tells Tamar that
Speaker 2: constantly calling Shannon an alcoholic is counterproductive.
Speaker 3: Agreed, But I get it.
Speaker 2: But why is Tamar getting in so much trouble when well, Firk, no,
Speaker 2: why is Hammer getting in so much trouble for calling
Speaker 2: Shannon an alcoholic? But Derit is being praised for calling
Speaker 2: PK the Father for Children an alcoholic multiple times in
Speaker 2: the first episode.
Speaker 3: Well, in my opinion, the two things aren't equal because
Speaker 3: one is a marriage with children and the other is
Speaker 3: just a friendship. I don't think they're equal. I think
Speaker 3: that in my opinion, Derit and PK's situation is much
Speaker 3: more has many more consequences than a friendship. Right, that's
Speaker 3: just my opinion.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was asking. Well, Shannon says she
Speaker 2: got the help she needed. Tamara calls her a liar.
Speaker 2: Tamra says it's because Shannon called her drunk several times
Speaker 2: during the program.
Speaker 3: That was very interesting. Yeah, I found that very interesting. No,
Speaker 3: you called me, You don't remember you called me many times? Drump?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 3: Are you allowed to get is she saying she is?
Speaker 3: Tamra saying Shannon called her drunk while she was in
Speaker 3: the program.
Speaker 2: In the program, as far as I know, the program
Speaker 2: that Shannon was in was out patients.
Speaker 3: Okay, well then yeah, you can't be drinking like Okay,
Speaker 3: I thought she was in a facility.
Speaker 2: It doesn't like promises.
Speaker 3: She was at a What is an alcohol?
Speaker 2: Is that even me? Should should I have an over
Speaker 2: planning calendar component to Mike, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know what this means. I am so confused. Was she
Speaker 3: in rehab or not?
Speaker 2: She was an outpatient therapy Okay, Okay, maybe it was
Speaker 2: an extended version of it, but I don't think.
Speaker 3: That you weren't staying there the alcohol.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you wanted to go home and have
Speaker 2: a couple of drinks, you could. I think you could
Speaker 2: throw them back.
Speaker 3: And then I think and that's when Tamar was saying, hey,
Speaker 3: you were being you were in treatment and calling me
Speaker 3: at home at night. Okay.
Speaker 2: Camera says, this is the tenth reunion where they've talked
Speaker 2: about her drinking, which, by.
Speaker 3: The way, you know, those shady producers did a good
Speaker 3: old flashback and it was true.
Speaker 2: It was true, But then Shannon said, tamor you're the
Speaker 2: only one that said it. But then they actually, for
Speaker 2: the first time this season did Tamra solid.
Speaker 3: And show that everybody Yeah, so good for you. That
Speaker 3: was the win for you.
Speaker 2: It was a win for you.
Speaker 3: It just goes to show that everybody had talked about it.
Speaker 2: It gave them the perfect reason to play the montage
Speaker 2: everyone calling out a reason.
Speaker 3: For drinking for a decade.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I was like, Shannon, you missed that one up.
Speaker 2: You didn't need to whenever you cue.
Speaker 3: Them, just yeah, just don't give them information.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't give them things to pull from it.
Speaker 3: And don't speak in absolutes.
Speaker 2: Ever, I learned that lesson when I said I never
Speaker 2: told a lie.
Speaker 3: Don't do that.
Speaker 2: That was a lie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lie for everybody, by the way, not
Speaker 3: just you.
Speaker 2: Also, it's like when people swear on their kids.
Speaker 3: Do that either, that's also a lie.
Speaker 2: You always know somebody's lying when they swear on somebody
Speaker 2: they loves lives.
Speaker 3: Why is that because they forgive them?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Because the people you love forgiving for you lied about
Speaker 3: my life. And it's okay, I mean that's much as
Speaker 3: my hot take.
Speaker 2: That hot take. Well, then, Shannon says Heather acted like
Speaker 2: she never heard the story about John. Heather says it's
Speaker 2: different hearing it thirdhand versus from someone else involved. Heather
Speaker 2: says she didn't discuss it until the Jeff Lewis interview.
Speaker 2: Shannon says she never thought about John hearing her accident
Speaker 2: until Jeff brought it up. Heather apologizes and says she
Speaker 2: doesn't feel she can trust her with important information. Should
Speaker 2: housewives be able to say they were telling another housewife
Speaker 2: something in confidence?
Speaker 3: There is cameras. There's no such thing as confidence, even
Speaker 3: when you're not rolling. I wouldn't do it here.
Speaker 2: But this is what I don't understand. If I were
Speaker 2: to tell you something in confidence on camera, yes, that's
Speaker 2: one thing, but there's no such thing as in confidence
Speaker 2: on camera. You're about to show it to millions of people.
Speaker 3: Agreed, So it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense. Then Andy asked Tamar what she
Speaker 2: thinks Shannon's intention was and wanting to bring the Travis
Speaker 2: rumor and to the reunion last year. Shannon says she
Speaker 2: only knew about it because Tamar sent the story to her.
Speaker 2: Shannon says Tarmama told her that Travis's X reached out
Speaker 2: to her. I wish Travis's X would reach out to
Speaker 2: me because I spent so much time.
Speaker 3: Trying to figure out what this is? Well, uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: back to the people in the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, Katie's son couldn't film because her ex wouldn't
Speaker 2: sign him off and he was living in San Diego.
Speaker 2: Gina says Katie lied about owning a home in San Diego,
Speaker 2: and Gina says she doesn't trust Katie and there are
Speaker 2: a lot of inconsistencies. Katie was just dismissed from the
Speaker 2: lawsuit claiming Katie's business wasn't her original Oh this was.
Speaker 3: This was not good for Katie.
Speaker 2: I don't think this entire reunion was great for Katie.
Speaker 3: I agree, there was not. It just wasn't. It didn't
Speaker 3: look good, it didn't feel good, and she took an
Speaker 3: ill on the first one.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the problem is is if I don't know,
Speaker 2: if she's trying to protect her position on Orange County
Speaker 2: by not admitting to moving back and forth between San Diego,
Speaker 2: and that's why it seems so dodgy.
Speaker 3: But that's not the only story that seems inconsistent as well.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, once we found out she was at the
Speaker 2: fucking dude's house, yep, because she was texting and driving,
Speaker 2: which listen, I don't judge. Occasionally when I do drive,
Speaker 2: I probably have texted.
Speaker 3: We all have. We all text and drive.
Speaker 2: But I most certainly if somebody got mad at me,
Speaker 2: wouldn't follow them back to their house.
Speaker 3: So dangerous. And we discussed that before. Yeah, that's just
Speaker 3: so fucking dangerous.
Speaker 2: But then we hear about Katie's business and that wasn't
Speaker 2: our original idea. She didn't really have an answer on this,
Speaker 2: which makes me think it's allegedly not really her business.
Speaker 2: It might be a housewife business.
Speaker 3: It's possible. I mean we have seen those.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I mean how many businesses did?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Who was on like that last season that I was
Speaker 2: on Beverly Hills. Somebody that came out there like and
Speaker 2: now I have a new lipstick line.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've had some adventures that come and
Speaker 3: go that were real, but they you know, then they
Speaker 3: fizz a lot, they a lot. Yeah, it's like a
Speaker 3: year commitment or something like that. It depends.
Speaker 2: Well. Then Sutton gets brought into the mix because Heather
Speaker 2: says Sutton texted her saying Katie used her to promote
Speaker 2: her business, and Heather. Heather says there are three different
Speaker 2: stories about Sutton's Christmas party.
Speaker 3: I didn't get an invitation to that Christmas party. I
Speaker 3: better get one this year, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I won't be getting one.
Speaker 3: You're never getting one.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: But I tell you what, you're not what boring?
Speaker 2: Thank you? It only took me getting off the show
Speaker 2: and well and starting my own life and.
Speaker 3: Even might be back on before you know.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I actually I kind of loved just
Speaker 2: being able to talk shit on this platform and.
Speaker 3: Come on, Cameron, talk it.
Speaker 2: My carpets. Don't worry.
Speaker 3: I didn't spill a drop. I'm a fucking pro.
Speaker 2: Katie says she had a phone conversation with her friend
Speaker 2: about Heather's paparazzi photos. I don't give a.
Speaker 3: Shit about the paparazzi. I don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. Heather says. Katie has no
Speaker 2: credibility and nothing adds up. Would it really matter even
Speaker 2: if Heather admitted to calling the pass Nope. No. I
Speaker 2: mean if you're important enough to A have the paps
Speaker 2: number and B get them to come take photos for
Speaker 2: you and see publish them, that's a pretty big fun.
Speaker 3: A lot of people do that, a lot of people
Speaker 3: want good pictures out of themselves and after so many
Speaker 3: bad pictures, why not? I mean not saying she had
Speaker 3: bad pictures, but look, if you want to have a
Speaker 3: relationship with the paparazzi, you feel that good for you.
Speaker 3: But who really cares, Like, there's so many other things
Speaker 3: going on, nobody cares about paparazzi.
Speaker 2: That's like, and that same token, Heather made a joke
Speaker 2: about the alleged cheating rumors with Terry in the pod,
Speaker 2: which I appreciated, which is why she supposedly had the
Speaker 2: paparazzi taking the photo. So like she she's.
Speaker 3: And I can think about it. I can think of
Speaker 3: a lot of other things to dispel cheating rumors and going.
Speaker 2: To Disneyland, honestly, that was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, ither, how about a sex tape? You know,
Speaker 3: like something else?
Speaker 2: Well, Heather says, falsely accusing people is Katie's thing. Katie says,
Speaker 2: a man was swerving. This entire story.
Speaker 3: Does not make sense to me. It's a little fish
Speaker 3: fish all.
Speaker 2: Right, So Katie, I don't understand because I met Katie
Speaker 2: in person at Kyle's as weekly thing, and she was lovely, beautiful, nice,
Speaker 2: Her husband was nice, everything was great, and she was
Speaker 2: very well spoken. This did not make sense to me,
Speaker 2: and I feel like I'm pretty.
Speaker 3: Good at because her piece is missing tape.
Speaker 2: So she says. Katie says a man was swerving entry lane,
Speaker 2: yelling f you bitch. She pulled over, called the police
Speaker 2: and tried to leave, but he started filming them.
Speaker 3: So what okay, right, big deal?
Speaker 2: But then Heather says the police said something different happened
Speaker 2: and that the statement she said followed him home. Katie
Speaker 2: says it's not true.
Speaker 3: Which who so did the police lying in the police report?
Speaker 3: Like that's a bay I did.
Speaker 2: She didn't say it wasn't true, and she was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I didn't realize there were neighbors there. Are you on
Speaker 2: the three? Are you on the freaking one oh one
Speaker 2: or wherever? Like they lived in Atlanta? So what is
Speaker 2: it the eighty three?
Speaker 3: No's the eighty five, ninety five eighty five, that's my hometown.
Speaker 2: I'm like the perimeter, yeah, Like, or are you in
Speaker 2: a residential spot?
Speaker 3: Because and who cares if they fill me in it? Like,
Speaker 3: I don't get it. And if you have kids in
Speaker 3: the car, why are you confronting a man? Why are
Speaker 3: you following him home? All of This sounds bad.
Speaker 2: To me, but Katie says she didn't show up to
Speaker 2: court because they served her ex.
Speaker 3: True, they have to serve you.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you that, do you actually
Speaker 2: have to be served?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the complaint or the whatever you want to say,
Speaker 3: the citation is against her, not her ex husband. What
Speaker 3: does that have to do with him. He wasn't the
Speaker 3: one driving, He wasn't one doing these things.
Speaker 2: And then I think they were trying to kind of
Speaker 2: get Emily at this point because then Emily goes into
Speaker 2: lawyer mode, as she should and I, according to sources,
Speaker 2: she's getting heat on this online. But I haven't. I've
Speaker 2: been avoiding Twitter, so I don't. I haven't really been perusing.
Speaker 2: Can I tell everything?
Speaker 3: I don't go on X much. It's kind of it's
Speaker 3: kind of whack. If I want to know what's happening
Speaker 3: in the world, I do like news, but other than that,
Speaker 3: that's okay.
Speaker 2: But Katie says this happened at a time when she
Speaker 2: was homeless with three kids. But then she says, which
Speaker 2: could rightfully be.
Speaker 3: Well, then how did they have the address for the
Speaker 3: ex husband, right? Because is that still her registered at?
Speaker 2: But I think that's what she's also was saying was
Speaker 2: her husband. That's why she gave up full custody of
Speaker 2: her kids, but then it ended up winning it back.
Speaker 2: I don't know her past relationship.
Speaker 3: Well listen, let me tell you something. First off, to
Speaker 3: give your kids up like that and get it back. Look,
Speaker 3: I don't know this woman. I know that there are inconsistencies.
Speaker 3: I think she's a beautiful woman. I think she's got
Speaker 3: a great husband. But like this story, the daughter getting
Speaker 3: on TikTok saying the girl said dick and shit like that,
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, and then the little.
Speaker 2: Boy knowing about Heather, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like this is all not the best.
Speaker 2: Like I can say with one hundred percent certainty, there's.
Speaker 3: I mean, Cruise thought I was you Cruse. Yeah that's
Speaker 3: not like that's how much he knows me, Like, no,
Speaker 3: he doesn't. My point is, are you my mom? You
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like he saw somebody come in glammed up and he
Speaker 2: was like, mom, you got dressed up.
Speaker 3: To me, babe, that's mom? You know, Like we don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't talk to my children about my
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: Don't you know, not to say shit to kids? They
Speaker 3: say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they can't, and it just continues to happen.
Speaker 2: But then Emily asked Katie what happened to lose foryal
Speaker 2: and legal custody of her children, and Katie says her
Speaker 2: ex was awarded the kids because she couldn't provide a
Speaker 2: place for them to live. I kind of felt gross
Speaker 2: watching this part. I'm not gonna lie, like if we
Speaker 2: can go after Katie for lots of things, but part
Speaker 2: of it with her kids, it felt wrong. But I
Speaker 2: also felt like, if you're going to bring them into
Speaker 2: it and you're gonna tell the story, do we need
Speaker 2: to know the whole story?
Speaker 3: Well, it's not. Do we need? Is it going to happen?
Speaker 3: And the answer is yes, it's going to happen on
Speaker 3: this show? Is it too far?
Speaker 2: And you also know when you join the.
Speaker 3: Show, all of this shit is going to come out.
Speaker 2: Every single thing about your past is going to come out.
Speaker 2: So you can either lead with it.
Speaker 3: But I don't think it listen. I don't think in
Speaker 3: Katie's defense, things like this happened to women. She's clearly
Speaker 3: got her kids back, Like, we don't know, let's not
Speaker 3: hang her out to dry because she had a hard
Speaker 3: choice to make. We don't know the rest of it.
Speaker 3: Is it too far? You should expect all of this
Speaker 3: to be too far. That's what embarrassing. Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's but it's also the show that we watch.
Speaker 3: It also turns out it seems as if things are
Speaker 3: different now, good for her, But.
Speaker 2: Then it's kind of not because then she's supposedly living
Speaker 2: in San Diego and the sun's there, and then she's not.
Speaker 3: Hey was confused about that. So are they living in
Speaker 3: Orange County? Are they living in San Diego or.
Speaker 2: What's my guess?
Speaker 3: I thought she had a son that lived with her
Speaker 3: husband in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: She does. But where it gets a little bit dicey
Speaker 2: is that during the season of Orange County, Katie was
Speaker 2: living in a home in Orange County, Okay. Then they
Speaker 2: stopped filming and Katie was living allegedly in San Diego with.
Speaker 3: All of them, Like they all packed up and moved
Speaker 3: to San Diego.
Speaker 2: They no longer live in the same house they lived
Speaker 2: in when they were filming. Like when the Ryan and
Speaker 2: that whole thing, I wouldn't say like the Ryan thing.
Speaker 2: I would say, it's like more like the Heather thing.
Speaker 2: But Heather's owning that she has places in multiple locations.
Speaker 2: But everybody knows that, right, But I think.
Speaker 3: No, I meant like that house that we saw Katie
Speaker 3: and Matt, host Ryan and Tama.
Speaker 2: No, that was a rented allegedly, that is a rented home.
Speaker 2: So that's where I have a little bit.
Speaker 3: So are you saying that she moved there for the
Speaker 3: show and now she's moved back to her real home
Speaker 3: in San Diego?
Speaker 2: Yes, but now she once again has gotten a new
Speaker 2: place in Orange County, is what That's what Emily said
Speaker 2: on the reunion, Okay, which is I don't necessarily think
Speaker 2: it matters, but now that it's out there, it's even
Speaker 2: more concerning because it's like, where's your home base? Like
Speaker 2: I could say, yeah, my home base is here o
Speaker 2: Orange County. I had houses both places and half for
Speaker 2: over ten years. I have friends in both locations. You do,
Speaker 2: But I would say that is my primary residence residence, right,
Speaker 2: But she can't say that because she's okay, all over
Speaker 2: the place, okay? And is that for the show? Is
Speaker 2: that because of life? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We had that on BH someone lived in San Diego
Speaker 3: but had an apartment in LA and so it was
Speaker 3: like one of those things.
Speaker 2: Was that Catherine. Yeah. Well, then Andy asks Jen if
Speaker 2: she considered breaking off the engagement. Jen says no. Jen
Speaker 2: says Ryan had already been working with the authorities. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I need your help on this.
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2: I'm not great with the lawyer Schaff neither mine. But
Speaker 2: Tamra questions why Jen acted surprise when she brought it up.
Speaker 2: Jen says she knew the article was coming and felt
Speaker 2: like it was her fault he was mentioned. Emily says
Speaker 2: Ryan was involved and that's why he was mentioned.
Speaker 3: I agree with Emily, okay, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: But then Jen says Ryan was never involved in Matt's
Speaker 2: booky business. Emily says he is involved, and to earn immunity,
Speaker 2: he needed to provide information.
Speaker 3: She is correct. Emily is correct here like I like.
Speaker 2: Jen, but then there's like naive and then there's Jen.
Speaker 2: But know what I can tell you for certain? Yes,
Speaker 2: there is no other name on my bank account or
Speaker 2: my address. Then relating to my brain, No, well actually
Speaker 2: not even my bank account's my own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mine were together, as we.
Speaker 2: All know, but so having your random like, I'm sorry, Eric.
Speaker 3: Now there's not, and you're not going to be like
Speaker 3: I can understand if in a marriage, sure, but a
Speaker 3: res and you've said that a lot. I agree. You
Speaker 3: are not given immunity unless you know something and you
Speaker 3: traded that. That's what Emily is saying. Ryan knows something
Speaker 3: and he traded that information to the government to say, hey,
Speaker 3: I know this, and because I'm going to give this,
Speaker 3: I'm not involved.
Speaker 2: But what is it about Matt that he's in the
Speaker 2: midst of all this and filmed this season.
Speaker 3: Dumb dumb what the dirty business was to? And Emily
Speaker 3: explains what the dirty business was to and she did
Speaker 3: a beautiful job, Emily.
Speaker 2: Way to go, Emily, Jen says, Ryan's name was on
Speaker 2: the account, and that was the mistake. Emily says, Matt
Speaker 2: referred to Ryan as his money laundering partner. I don't
Speaker 2: really make those jokes. Well, I say, like you're my
Speaker 2: rider Die.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, even even in the best of circumstances,
Speaker 3: if it is a joke, don't fucking say it because
Speaker 3: they love it and the.
Speaker 2: Business is gambling. Maybe you don't say money laundering party.
Speaker 3: How about you just we don't have a business that's gambling.
Speaker 3: Why don't we start there. We're not bookies, nothing.
Speaker 2: To the guy online gambling company. So to.
Speaker 3: Listen, I let know, there is a difference between a
Speaker 3: legal and licensed casino, which we love. Okay, hit us up.
Speaker 3: I love casinos, I actually do. And you know Tom
Speaker 3: was licensed in the state of California and in the
Speaker 3: state of Nevada. I've actually, what does that mean licensed?
Speaker 2: I don't even have to.
Speaker 3: Go Okay, So I actually went to a gaming commission
Speaker 3: hearing and I watched it and they ask you a
Speaker 3: bunch of questions. They go through all of your books,
Speaker 3: they go through everything, and you get their different levels
Speaker 3: of license. And Tom had one. There's like an operator's
Speaker 3: license and owner's license, things like that. It's different levels.
Speaker 3: Anybody who's in gaming can correct me. But and there
Speaker 3: are gaming commissions in the state of California, and I
Speaker 3: guess everywhere in Nevada's well, New Jersey. That's the hardest one.
Speaker 2: To get the get Jersey, to get licensed in Jersey. Well,
Speaker 2: then Emily says the opposite of what she read. Jen
Speaker 2: says she read that Emily's in laws fund her whole life.
Speaker 2: You know what, if that's the case, get it.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, somebody's funding everybody's life, whether it's your
Speaker 3: husband working or you working. I mean, I'm funding my life,
Speaker 3: you're funding your life. Who gives a fuck? Who funds everybody?
Speaker 2: Listen? Then Emily says Jen and Ryan should take it
Speaker 2: down ability. Jen says Ryan has not made bad choices
Speaker 2: and he has nothing to be held accountable for.
Speaker 3: I disagree.
Speaker 2: I think probably all of us have things we should
Speaker 2: be held accountable for. Tell me, listen, minus were exercise
Speaker 2: fuckers for everybody's like, you're study hyerocrat.
Speaker 3: Well look you know what, who cares? You're also a
Speaker 3: human being? Yeah, and I love you and you're my friend. Okay,
Speaker 3: here we are part two, everybody, because part one wasn't enough.
Speaker 2: We needed three parts. We needed three all right. So
Speaker 2: Emily says that Katie's husband Matt hit at Jen and
Speaker 2: Ryan's party to avoid all the men. Katie says she's not.
Speaker 3: A bad idea. Matt, I probably would have done the
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 2: Listen. I wanted to hide watching this entire portion.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but you can't. It's like a car wreck.
Speaker 2: Can't look away, You can't look away. Katie says she
Speaker 2: doesn't believe that Ryan was involved. In anything bad. I'm sorry, Katie,
Speaker 2: like you, but anything you say at this point, I
Speaker 2: don't know that.
Speaker 3: Sit this one out, babes, Sit this one out.
Speaker 2: Heathers tells Jen that everyone is concerned that she'll end
Speaker 2: up in a bad place. Jen says, there's nothing bad coming.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's something bad coming?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but there could be. And on that chance,
Speaker 3: I would just ask again, Jen, please just don't do
Speaker 3: this right now. Let's just let all the dust subtle. Please.
Speaker 3: But also, I don't know, we don't know, you don't know,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 2: Just don't want her to Jen, I would say this,
Speaker 2: I just don't. If you're going to be continuing on
Speaker 2: the show, get a prenup beyond yeah, like that and
Speaker 2: some yeah, like get your shit in order, like bullets.
Speaker 3: Whatever you can do to protect yourself.
Speaker 2: Do that.
Speaker 3: And I'm not and I'm not beating up on I'm
Speaker 3: not beating up on Ryan, No, I'm not. And I'm
Speaker 3: not beating up on marriage. I'm just saying human nature,
Speaker 3: these are things that happen the unforeseen, like God, damn it.
Speaker 3: Protect yourself please.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're a mom of a bunch of kids.
Speaker 3: That need it, like you got, you got, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Protect you. We don't know where. We're not talking shit
Speaker 2: about Ryan, but with what we do know.
Speaker 3: We're talking about life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like this is the reality. Protect yourself at all costs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then roy still remains sweet because she's a sweet
Speaker 3: woman and she has a beautiful vulnerability about her. And
Speaker 3: I don't want her to lose that because it's Jada.
Speaker 3: But you don't. You cannot. You have to.
Speaker 2: I know you have to. You have to have a
Speaker 2: little bit of fight in you.
Speaker 3: Of course, just self preservation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ryan served Tarma with a cease and desist letter
Speaker 2: after she accused him of stealing money. Tama apologizes, explaining
Speaker 2: that she didn't mean to mention Ryan. Tamara was upset
Speaker 2: that Ryan called Eddie gay.
Speaker 3: I want to say something. We have to stop calling
Speaker 3: people gay. Quit it, stop it. There's nothing wrong with
Speaker 3: being gay if you are gay, but there is something
Speaker 3: wrong with saying, oh, you know, he's gay, like it's
Speaker 3: a bad thing. Fucking quit it, quit it and tired
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, if somebody is gay, it's so,
Speaker 2: and they're living in a marriage and it doesn't fucking matter. Listen,
Speaker 2: if the wife is fine with what I'm not saying
Speaker 2: Eddie is or is not. I'm saying I don't get
Speaker 2: this content.
Speaker 1: Guy.
Speaker 3: Stop stop all that. People's sexuality is their sexuality. It
Speaker 3: is not your sexuality if it doesn't involve you. Stop
Speaker 3: saying shit like that. I just really fucking quit it.
Speaker 2: And also I don't know, just like it. Uh. Then
Speaker 2: Jin asked camera where Eddie slept the night after Katie's
Speaker 2: claiming she had heard he slept in the casita. Gina
Speaker 2: says Tarama told her they were fighting, big deal, who fucked? Honestly?
Speaker 3: Like, Tom slept downstairs for six weeks one time because
Speaker 3: we got into a fight and until finally it was cold.
Speaker 3: It was the winter time.
Speaker 2: It was too cold in the casino.
Speaker 3: Was too cold. It's like it's cold. I was like, right, exactly,
Speaker 3: there goes your pride.
Speaker 2: I mean, even if a marriage is thriving and somebody
Speaker 2: is snoring, there is a time you will go in
Speaker 2: the other fucking room.
Speaker 3: And if you're not getting along. Look, men, I I
Speaker 3: was never gonna not sleep in my bed because I
Speaker 3: liked it. But you know, if you got none are weird,
Speaker 3: let them do what they want. They're gonna come right back.
Speaker 3: They don't worry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also if he's mad that night, because Tamra
Speaker 2: she wasn't.
Speaker 3: She did say too much, she did stuck on the.
Speaker 2: Couch or the casita or whatever. But the way Jenn
Speaker 2: implied it was if if it was something other like,
Speaker 2: it's I think it's very common in a marriage that
Speaker 2: you get an argument and maybe don't sleep in the
Speaker 2: same bed, It's fine. I was like, where was he
Speaker 2: sleeping like or like with Ryan? Well like, but also
Speaker 2: why did Jin know that? And also I talked to
Speaker 2: Tama the next day, and I'm ninety nine point nine
Speaker 2: percent sure that Eddie was just annoyed at her and
Speaker 2: did sleep in her bed because I think we had
Speaker 2: like a group you know when you call the next
Speaker 2: day and you have like a recap, And Eddie was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, like, I'm sure he was over it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But Andy asked Jen why she didn't give Tamara a
Speaker 2: chance to show proof of Shannon doing the background check.
Speaker 2: Jen says she didn't care. Okay, I have to ask
Speaker 2: you a question. Are we historical friends or what?
Speaker 3: I don't know what I when she said that, I
Speaker 3: wanted to look up the definition of historical friends. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, do we have history? The answer is yes,
Speaker 3: but what is historical friends?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: All I thought was like George wash like, when I think.
Speaker 3: Of history, we're not that old bitch like you go.
Speaker 2: Wait fucking back. But I'm like, I don't really under standing.
Speaker 3: Does she means that she? Does she mean that she
Speaker 3: has history with her throughout the show? Therefore that's their
Speaker 3: historical friendship? Or is she Heather?
Speaker 2: I need help Heather?
Speaker 3: I should have Do I have her? In numeration? Text her?
Speaker 3: What do you mean by this?
Speaker 2: Should we call her? We could call her from.
Speaker 3: Well, you better text her first, don't. I will right
Speaker 3: put her on. That's a good definition. I've been This
Speaker 3: is basically my entire life. I don't have any real friends.
Speaker 3: I have historical friends.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, are we historical?
Speaker 3: As she wouldn't? She's probably free of you.
Speaker 2: No, she's not. We actually get along.
Speaker 1: Voicemail.
Speaker 2: The person you're trying to reach is not a vana.
Speaker 2: Guess we're not historical friends.
Speaker 3: No, she's probably busy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's probably booked up and blessed up and and
Speaker 2: fucking richer than us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'll have to sit on that one.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Good for you here, Heather de Broh. This is for
Speaker 3: you kids.
Speaker 2: Listen, Heather call us back. I'm just saying, but Jen's
Speaker 2: impersonation of Heather was spot on, so pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was inclined to believe she may have said that.
Speaker 2: That means said, I don't think Heather is necessarily like
Speaker 2: a messy person.
Speaker 3: No, I think she's a very you know, Heather thinks
Speaker 3: about things and you can tell she does this, and
Speaker 3: you know she has a lot to protect. I like it. Actually,
Speaker 3: I like her.
Speaker 2: I like Heather.
Speaker 3: I like Heather.
Speaker 2: Do I think that she was in this reunion that much? No?
Speaker 3: No, But she didn't have to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she she weighed in when she needed to. Whatever.
Speaker 2: Then Jen says she is now taking control of her payments.
Speaker 2: What payments, Well, she didn't buy the dress.
Speaker 3: I'm glad she. By the way, congratulations on closing. When
Speaker 3: I saw that online, didn't the free room.
Speaker 2: What my baby showers forever scorn. I never be able
Speaker 2: to read this.
Speaker 3: My next baby. We're not having any more babies, actually
Speaker 3: not allowing it. Me and Eric are expecting we're not
Speaker 3: We're expecting a boatload of cash, bitch, That's what I'm expecting.
Speaker 3: No kids.
Speaker 2: Then Heather says Jen called her before the season for
Speaker 2: financial advice, which she didn't take. So Heather checked the
Speaker 2: price of the dress.
Speaker 3: That part, okay, Well, she already talked about this. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: Ryan bought her the dress. If he wants to buy
Speaker 3: her the dress, that's fine, But also who cares?
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I would assume that Ryan is paying
Speaker 2: for the majority.
Speaker 3: I would hope. So if she's going to be engaged
Speaker 3: to this man and put all her eggs in his
Speaker 3: unstable basket, yeah.
Speaker 2: And his paints flattered, Jeane, you cannot let go of
Speaker 2: the I can't. I can't. It's really upsetting to me. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't like a tapered Jean, and I don't like
Speaker 2: it with paint spotter. I never knew you was. I'm
Speaker 2: very weird about men's pants.
Speaker 3: Let's just stop. Let's go on and don't sell.
Speaker 2: Now we're getting into gent Gina talking about Travis's balls.
Speaker 2: Is this a more appropriate conversation?
Speaker 3: I like balls, Teddy?
Speaker 2: Do you did you see Gina's post where she posted
Speaker 2: a picture I think if it was a hamster, which
Speaker 2: enormous balls, and.
Speaker 3: She said these are Travis's balls. What makes balls that big?
Speaker 3: Can a doctor let us know?
Speaker 2: Elephant Titus of the balls? But do you does it
Speaker 2: bother you or make you happier of somebody? I don't
Speaker 2: really notice the size of someone's balls. I do because
Speaker 2: I like you like big balls.
Speaker 3: I like balls?
Speaker 2: Why because it slaps?
Speaker 3: Because they they slap and they feel good. They're soft.
Speaker 3: I like it and the skin is very soft. There. Oh,
Speaker 3: let me part of it.
Speaker 2: We'll party the underneath party.
Speaker 3: Well, I need sex, Okay, I keep going.
Speaker 2: I could probably help you up.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 2: Gina thought if she didn't live with Travis the X
Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to make up crazy rumor. She says,
Speaker 2: things will never get better with X. Now that we've
Speaker 2: heard this entire story, all of it makes so much
Speaker 2: more sense now, agreed, because I feel like I didn't
Speaker 2: get it the entire time, and I don't now.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you kind of let Gina off the
Speaker 3: hook a little bit because you couldn't understand. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now I'm like, oh, I got it, yep.
Speaker 3: I Let you know, Gina, as long as you're on
Speaker 3: television things you're never going to get better with the X.
Speaker 3: That's just part of the game. And you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to accept that as long as you're on television, and
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about it.
Speaker 2: But also, Travis does seem like a good guy to me.
Speaker 3: Yep, I know, she seems like a good girl, and
Speaker 3: Gina seems like a sweet girl.
Speaker 2: And I do think they love each other. But she
Speaker 2: was like, enough's enough. I'm putting my boundaries out. Good
Speaker 2: for her, You're allowed to do. Then the women break
Speaker 2: for lunch and Lexss arrives. Yeah, Katie tells Jen that
Speaker 2: Hea they checking the price of the dress was mean
Speaker 2: girl behavior. Guys, housewives is mean girl behavior. I hate
Speaker 2: to be the bearer of bad news or good news.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what we signed up for. You're going to
Speaker 3: get questioned about how much money you spend, how you
Speaker 3: spend it, where you spend it, who bought that one?
Speaker 2: But also what about how the discussion kept going on?
Speaker 2: Is this gossip or mean girl behavior?
Speaker 3: All of the same shit, all of the above, All
Speaker 3: of it is true. It's gossip, it's mean girl behavior,
Speaker 3: it's middle school girl behavior, and you love it and
Speaker 3: you like it, stop complaining about it.
Speaker 2: Or and everybody fucking does it, whether you're on a
Speaker 2: reality show or not. Do you gossip with people in
Speaker 2: your life?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do so do I?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I gossip with you yeah. And even when she's
Speaker 2: going down in my life, do I still gossip about
Speaker 2: other people? Well?
Speaker 3: I would help you with gossip with me more so
Speaker 3: it takes to you, know, help you relieve some of
Speaker 3: the stress. I with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then Alexis, Oh, Jen says camera is the mouthpiece,
Speaker 2: and then Alexis says she doesn't want to fight, she
Speaker 2: just wants to speak the truth.
Speaker 3: But it was yeah.
Speaker 2: No, Tamar tells Alexis not to be John's voice. I
Speaker 2: hate to be the spoiler alert, but Alexis does not take.
Speaker 3: Advice at all. As a matter of fact, she does opposite.
Speaker 3: And I appreciate that Alexis gave a lot, but I
Speaker 3: was tired of listening to her.
Speaker 2: Who bugs you, Moore? Alexis or Camille? Oh god, well,
Speaker 2: I love when I still don't like the thing.
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you something I don't know Alexis,
Speaker 3: so I can just say it was annoying for me.
Speaker 2: But remember the Camille.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm about to say something. Camille can be fun,
Speaker 3: and then Camille can turn and be very mean and
Speaker 3: that's when I don't like Camille. Sometimes I feel like.
Speaker 2: Camille gives you what you want, not like. I don't
Speaker 2: think Alexis is like manufactured. I think this is just
Speaker 2: too Alexis.
Speaker 3: I just think that Camille can be mean and she
Speaker 3: doesn't need to be all the time. I like it
Speaker 3: when Camille laughs and has fun and makes fun of
Speaker 3: herself and is lighter. She goes a place that's just like,
Speaker 3: come on, you don't have to do that.
Speaker 2: But do you think Camille is actually like that or
Speaker 2: she does it for production.
Speaker 3: I think she does it for production, but it doesn't
Speaker 3: get you off the hook.
Speaker 2: But I don't think Alexis does it for production. I
Speaker 2: think Alexis is this person. I think Alexis is, like
Speaker 2: Camille is easily influenced.
Speaker 3: Well, she's also Camille's performing a bit. But and that's
Speaker 3: why part of me gets mad at her because I
Speaker 3: know her differently, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I don't like, what are you doing this ship?
Speaker 3: Stop this ship? But Alexis is full on.
Speaker 2: She doesn't even realize.
Speaker 3: I don't think she's realizing what she's doing. Andy in
Speaker 3: my opinion, and you can prove me otherwise.
Speaker 2: You guys, are wanting to prove us otherwise. Then Andy
Speaker 2: asked Emily how she felt hearing Heather's dress comment. Emily
Speaker 2: says it proved her point that people comment on the
Speaker 2: way she looks. True. True. Katie says her daughter's comments
Speaker 2: during babysitting were not said to insinuate that Emily was
Speaker 2: a bad mother. Emily tells Katie that she claimed her
Speaker 2: sons were lying. Heather asked Katie what she's done to
Speaker 2: make her daughter make tiktoks, calling them fake ass bitches
Speaker 2: who sucked dick.
Speaker 3: I hope they do like dick.
Speaker 2: I hope these women suck dick. If not, I mean
Speaker 2: they're gonna be like Beverly Hills, all unmarried.
Speaker 3: I suck dick, bitch. That's not the reason I'm single.
Speaker 3: That's not the reason I'm single. I don't know about
Speaker 3: these other women, but I can suck a mean dick.
Speaker 3: My point is, and I love it. My point is, God,
Speaker 3: I'm just ruining all my chances of dating.
Speaker 2: No, actually, you're probably upping them. If only we had
Speaker 2: some male listeners that was straight.
Speaker 3: If only yeah, right, I don't think that's happening, which
Speaker 3: you know, by the way, we need to talk about
Speaker 3: my dating life off this pod.
Speaker 2: Well on another one. Then even Tara's daughter, she's not
Speaker 2: messing with the storyline.
Speaker 3: She lets her mom fight her fights. Don't get involved, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because when you get involved in something like this, you're
Speaker 3: going to have some women there. They're not going to
Speaker 3: respect the fact that you're twenty and you're someone's child
Speaker 3: and not. Okay, you don't want to pick this fight.
Speaker 3: And this is a fast way, Katie, for you not
Speaker 3: to stay on the cast. Is your daughter going on
Speaker 3: podcasts and bashing other cast members. Your daughter doesn't need
Speaker 3: to do your dirty work. Your daughter needs to be
Speaker 3: twenty and living her life.
Speaker 2: But I do appreciate that. Heather Dubrow said, fake asked
Speaker 2: bitches who suck dick. I didn't know those words could
Speaker 2: come out of her mouth.
Speaker 3: Oh I think. Oh No, Miss du Brow is not
Speaker 3: a pushover or a puss puss.
Speaker 2: No, she's down.
Speaker 3: No, she's tough. I know. I know some people that
Speaker 3: know her, and she's a she's a tough lady.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I like her. I do too.
Speaker 3: Just because she's, you know, pulled up and reserved, does
Speaker 3: not mean that she's.
Speaker 2: Not Just because she's a little I think there are
Speaker 2: different and this is okay as housewives, as human beings,
Speaker 2: like some of us are touch more calculated.
Speaker 3: That's fine. Are just reserved, I mean, like we all
Speaker 3: have different personalities, that's fine. Yeah, but don't think that
Speaker 3: Heather's not.
Speaker 2: Gonna find Well, Heather's a smart cookie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't fail upwardly. Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then Alexis joins the women. Alexis and John are
Speaker 2: getting married within twelve months. Andy asked Alexis if her
Speaker 2: religious views have changed because of her child.
Speaker 3: Her children's sexuality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of her children's sexuality, Alexis says she is
Speaker 2: still spiritual and believes everyone should have the right to
Speaker 2: live as they want.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 2: I think that's a good, good time.
Speaker 3: And I like it that she and Heather have children
Speaker 3: and that they can that you know, are gay our trends,
Speaker 3: and that they can be friends and be supportive of
Speaker 3: their children, as we should all be supportive of their
Speaker 3: kids because so many children that are LGBTQ plus you
Speaker 3: do not have the family support. So it's very nice
Speaker 3: to see Alexis and how they both support their children
Speaker 3: and Terry as well. I don't know who Alexis is
Speaker 3: with I'm assuming, I assume that they support them as well,
Speaker 3: and that's great to see.
Speaker 2: Then Shannon says they're still waiting to hear back from
Speaker 2: John's lawsuit. John lowered it to seventy thousand, and Shannon agreed,
Speaker 2: but he wouldn't sign a mutual non disparagement agreement though,
Speaker 2: which means.
Speaker 3: I just want this to go on and on.
Speaker 2: And that's the part that I really like. I'm I
Speaker 2: tried for a second not to be biased, and I
Speaker 2: tried for a second to see Alexis's point, because I
Speaker 2: understand coming in as like the new person in a
Speaker 2: relationship with somebody that's been on the cast for a
Speaker 2: long time, and blah blah blah. But why would you
Speaker 2: not sign a non disparagement.
Speaker 3: Because you wanted to go on? Why would you sit
Speaker 3: down for interviews? You have to understand, like it would
Speaker 3: be one thing if I just sorry, I take this personally,
Speaker 3: but you know, you just don't want this to go
Speaker 3: on and on.
Speaker 2: You have to, especially if you're over a relationship. But
Speaker 2: what I did realize that consistently happened with Alexis is
Speaker 2: that things that John says to Alexis are the exact
Speaker 2: same things.
Speaker 3: That he said to Shannon. Shannon, Yes, I noticed that
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: And to me, that is a really big red flag.
Speaker 3: One time, I'll give you a little piece of uh
Speaker 3: this is I've never told this one time. So Tomm
Speaker 3: used to call me these little nicknames. I'm not going
Speaker 3: to repeat them. I was cleaning out a closet and
Speaker 3: we've been married like a couple of years at this point,
Speaker 3: like two or three, and I happened to come across
Speaker 3: a box of like personal items of his and I
Speaker 3: was going through them as I should, because he asked
Speaker 3: me to clean out this closet, and I there was
Speaker 3: this handwritten note that he had written to a woman that, oh,
Speaker 3: his second wife, excuse me because I was wife three.
Speaker 3: It was verbatim what he called me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like to me, that's and.
Speaker 3: I will never forget looking at that. And I went, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: so it's not special, it's not I'm not unique. I'm
Speaker 3: actually here. And there were all of those little signs
Speaker 3: along the way, but that always stuck out with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when you when you hear those same lines,
Speaker 2: and I think, regardless of how Alexis is trying to
Speaker 2: play it off, when you are the next woman.
Speaker 3: You're just next in line.
Speaker 2: You have to realize that's what's happening.
Speaker 3: You do, even though I'm sure look she looks like
Speaker 3: she's There was something said about how she defends men,
Speaker 3: or she's very consistent in defending the men in her life.
Speaker 3: And while I think that's wonderful, I also think that
Speaker 3: you can get a little too involved in doing that
Speaker 3: and lose your own sense of self. Doesn't make sense,
Speaker 3: and then you start saying things like that he did
Speaker 3: say the same things to Shannon as he's saying to her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and flashbacks right of it.
Speaker 3: That has to click to you.
Speaker 2: And you have to have even if your ride or
Speaker 2: die for your man, you have to have your own identity.
Speaker 2: It's true if not like this is what happens. And
Speaker 2: Alexis's sob story of an Instagram post about her season
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear that either. You know what
Speaker 3: you signed up for. You you have fifteen years in television.
Speaker 3: You made very clear to tell everybody that you can't complain.
Speaker 3: Now you just got to take it on the chin
Speaker 3: and keep it pushing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, then Alexis says Shannon has a strange relationship
Speaker 2: with the truth. Shannon calls Alexis is John's mouthpiece. Shannon
Speaker 2: asked Alexis how many times she practiced in front of
Speaker 2: the mirror. There's the door, Shannon, the door. So appreciative
Speaker 2: that they had the footage if your doing it in
Speaker 2: the car prior, I loved it.
Speaker 3: It's just true.
Speaker 2: I mean, then, Shannon says, Alexis that one line. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's not even that good. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 2: even practice pretend amnesia.
Speaker 3: No, someone gave it.
Speaker 2: I mean, someone gave my best fucking line. Someone gave
Speaker 2: it to me. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But you know what I have to say this, did
Speaker 3: you hear what I said after? It may or may
Speaker 3: not be true. I could have said something like that
Speaker 3: now right over everybody's fucking hell whatever anyway.
Speaker 2: But but the point is it wasn't a premeditated practice thing.
Speaker 2: It was I was having a converse with somebody right before.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's his life. It's just like Erica had
Speaker 2: pretend amnesia.
Speaker 3: Now he had had it, you know, he had rehearsed
Speaker 3: it with the production team. I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I was like, but and I wasn't
Speaker 2: even thinking. And then I sit down and I see
Speaker 2: the whole thing, and I'm like, oh, pretend you know,
Speaker 2: like it was as if it was my fucking mouth.
Speaker 2: But Shannon Badoor.
Speaker 3: Housewives or anyone that's on these shoes, just please let
Speaker 3: it be your own wit. Please let it be come
Speaker 3: off the top of your head. Please don't practice lines.
Speaker 3: And if you are going to practice them, practice them off.
Speaker 2: Camera, yeah, like yeah, or let it just have happened
Speaker 2: right beforehand, like you know when you see a confessional
Speaker 2: that the producer gave it to the person right before.
Speaker 3: Not really not over here.
Speaker 2: You don't think you can tell, no I met with me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah no, But I can always tell when somebody.
Speaker 3: I can to when somebody sounds a little bit differently
Speaker 3: and a little bit more concise.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not trying to say this in a dick way,
Speaker 2: but Katie's confessionals are quite good.
Speaker 3: A little too good for a first season yeah, a little.
Speaker 2: Too good for a season one housewife.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Then Shannon said, I was going to give you
Speaker 3: the benefit of being well spoken, but I guess not.
Speaker 2: Well, well, she didn't have her ears in like Andy.
Speaker 2: Then Shannon says that Alexis lied to her about Jim's lawsuit,
Speaker 2: Alexis says there were no court documents and her name
Speaker 2: isn't on it. Shannon tells Alexis to leave her leave
Speaker 2: because her time is up and she's a friend.
Speaker 3: Of Yeah, okay, yeah, But also.
Speaker 2: Do I think Shannon gave it to Alexis and every
Speaker 2: chance that she could, did she do it in a
Speaker 2: great way? Most of the time. Yes. I don't really
Speaker 2: appreciate the friend of things, like, well, everybody's getting paid
Speaker 2: to be there, whether they're.
Speaker 3: Well how about this, Hey, Shannon, if Alexis wasn't there,
Speaker 3: they would have hammered you more.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: Yes, she's a friend, and you need friends of, You
Speaker 3: need everybody on the cast. It's an ensemble cast unless
Speaker 3: you're carrying your own show.
Speaker 2: And I can say this sometimes friend of make more
Speaker 2: than Season one Housewives.
Speaker 3: Sometimes friends off bring more heat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they they're going in. But do you think
Speaker 2: we will see Alexis again other than episode three?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 2: No, I don't either.
Speaker 3: Then I hope she's okay with that.
Speaker 2: But then this part is pretty amazing. Andy looks over
Speaker 2: at Shannon and he's like, they get into the gym,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, stuff, and he's like, don't say anything, you know,
Speaker 2: and that's how you know when like Andy really loves
Speaker 2: a housewive. He's like, don't say anything. At this point,
Speaker 2: even Tamra and Shannon are connecting, like they're they're all
Speaker 2: they're all together in this all of a sudden, they've
Speaker 2: forgotten about all the other shit, and they're like, we're
Speaker 2: in protection mode, and he's like, don't say anything. And
Speaker 2: then Shannon goes, but I won, Yeah, but I won
Speaker 2: and I did I actually didn't even know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that moment, Shannon says she did nothing wrong and
Speaker 2: she won, Alexis says Shannon still lost five hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: Shannon asked Alexis if she's delusional. Shannon tells Alexis she
Speaker 2: took her job ten years ago and she's still here,
Speaker 2: and Alexis says she's back now. That's when the friend
Speaker 2: comment comes up, and then Alexis says, I've been on
Speaker 2: TV for fifteen years and Shannon says.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're a tavs.
Speaker 2: I mean, but I also can't believe that Alexis thought
Speaker 2: her two episodes of Below Deck humping her old boyfriend
Speaker 2: as being on TV.
Speaker 3: I don't even know watch Below Deck. No shade to
Speaker 3: Below Deck.
Speaker 2: But also you pay to be on Below Deck, you do? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like if I wanted to be.
Speaker 3: You have to pay the charter. Yeah, and then you
Speaker 3: get the additional bonus of being filmed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Fuck no, Like I could get on Below Deck tomorrow,
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Speaker 2: another episode of to Teas and a Pod with myself
Speaker 2: and Erica. We will be back to recap Reunion Part
Speaker 2: three tomorrow. Tomorrow, Tomorrow,