1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and myself, 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington. Make sure you catch us live weekdays six 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: to nine am Eastern or three am to six am 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching fs R. 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Get this putties, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I tell all of them, rag it up, 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: break it down, back it up, back it up, sucking up, 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: bucking up, bucking up, mack it up, bucking up, breaking up, 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: breaking up. 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Out the lamma, rag it up. Big old head looks 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: like a Geico. 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: Right to a strip a Two Pros and a Cup 17 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: of Joe here on Fox Sports Black and Drag on 18 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: a Monday morning. Hi, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. 19 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: It is a special day here on the show. It's 20 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: LaVar's birthday. So we are, uh, we're having all sorts 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: of fun. We don't have a cake or anything's been 22 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: all sorts of goofy stuff. 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: Played here on the show, So we'll be, uh, we'll. 24 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: Be making making time to celebrate the one and only 25 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: Lave Arrington here for the next couple hours, all the 26 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. 27 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: There is a I don't know if this is a 28 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: target or a you. 29 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: Know, somebody's put somebody else on notice about how things 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: could potentially go in the NFL this year. But Travis Hunter, 31 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: who's trying to do the offense defense thing in the NFL, 32 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: which we don't really get to see hardly ever at all, 33 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: he's got his work cutout for him. That according to 34 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: Willie Cologne, former Super Bowl champion I guess forever super 35 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: Bowl champion, but former offensive lineman in the NFL. He 36 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 4: was on FS one's Breakfast Ball on Friday and had 37 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 4: this to say about how he would approach the one 38 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: and only Travis Hunter. 39 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 5: I know how I would approach a guy like this. 40 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 5: I'm gonna test his arfle. I'm gonna see how tough 41 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 5: you really are if you want to be a two 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: way player in the NFL. I'm gonna see if you're 43 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 5: strong enough to be a two way player. So when 44 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 5: I'm pulling around that corner. I'm gonna test that twelve 45 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 5: on your chest, right, and so for me, if I'm 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 5: the taxfl that war he that's listen to what the 47 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 5: players are saying. They're curious if he should finish an eighteen. 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Game season going both ways. I promise you he won't. 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 5: They won't move him to one side of the ball 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 5: next quarterback and allow him to be the best quarter 51 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 5: they b because not only are you going to have 52 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: to make tackles, was getting hit too. 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: So that was Willie Cologne assessing how things could go 54 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: for the one and only Travis Hunter. 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: How did you feel about that assessment? 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: It does bring up an interesting point that I don't 57 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 4: know if people have thought about, because if a say, 58 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: a quarterback comes into the league and they're really cocky 59 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: or really arrogant, you can understand why there would be. 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: A target on them. 61 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 4: Johnny Manziel that it seemed like players obviously knew the 62 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: reputation whatnot, and so there were incidents where you know, 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: they would take liberties or take shots at him. There 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: were some people that speculated maybe that would happen with 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams. There's some people that think maybe that happens 66 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: with Ace Bailey, the guy who you know, didn't want 67 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: to work out for any teams, didn't want to go 68 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: to Utah, wanted to go to Washington, and the Jazz 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: ended up drafting him. Like, if you come in with 70 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: a reputation as being a little bit cocky, I could 71 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: understand why maybe you would feel. 72 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: Like there would be a target on your back. 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: He does bring up a point, though, that you've got 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: a guy who's coming into the league and is basically 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: saying I'm going to try and do what nobody else 76 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: in the league can do. And I just wonder how 77 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: that's gonna land with certain players in the NFL. Then 78 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: maybe saying no, no, you're not doing that on our watch. 79 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 4: You're not gonna listen. You're gonna pick a side, because 80 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: if you try and go both ways offense and defense, 81 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: you're gonna be held accountable for it. And I just 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: wonder if players look at that as almost a challenge. 83 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: Let's let him know that the NFL is different than 84 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: what it was at college. You can pull that in Boulder, 85 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: you can't pull it here on Sundays. 86 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: But he it is what Travis Hunter has done, and 87 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: not many people at all if any have ever been 88 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 1: able to pull it off to the level that he's 89 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: pulled it off at winning the Heisman Trophy. Yeah, you 90 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: can't discredit what he's already done and say, Okay, well 91 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: you can't. You're not going to be able to do 92 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: that in the league. The bottom line is, any high 93 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: profile draft pick is going to be targeted. Abdual Carter 94 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: is going to be targeted, Warren is going to be targeted. 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, cam is going to be cam Ward is 96 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: going to be targeted. Like all these top guys offensive 97 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: linemen that go early, they are going to be targeted. 98 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: They're all going to be targeted. So I think that's 99 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: a for one, that's an overstated type of point to 100 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: the conversation, because there's somebody that's going to be out 101 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: there that is targeting you, specifically being a rookie, and 102 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: especially if you're a high profile, high draft pick rookie, 103 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: somebody's targeting you. The bottom line, in fact, if you're 104 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: able to stay relevant as a player throughout your career 105 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: and targeted, that's the bottom line. And even though Greg 106 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: Williams got in trouble for revealing to the public how 107 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: deep targeting can go, that exists knocking dudes out of games. 108 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if that culture still exists in today's NFL. 109 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm not close enough to the game at this point 110 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: to know the ends and outs on how defensive players 111 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: view games, but that is certainly that was certainly culture 112 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: when I was coming through and when I was playing, 113 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: there was always the idea, kill the head, the body 114 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: will die. But we also can wound some different parts 115 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: of the body as well. If a running back represented 116 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: an arm, we could take that arm. If a receiver 117 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: represented a leg, take the leg. If you could get 118 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: a lineman out of the game and get him out 119 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: of the game, that was just how you played the game. 120 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: So I don't find this to be egregious to sit 121 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: there and be like, oh, I'm going to check the 122 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: twelve on his chest and see if he can handle it. 123 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: What pulling lineman isn't going to see if any any 124 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: high draft pick on the outside can handle them pulling. 125 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: Who's not going to do that. So that's the first point, right, 126 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: That's the first point. But then the second point is 127 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: which I felt confident about what he said about being 128 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: a cornerback when he was first coming into the league, 129 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: But the more I've listened to Pete Prisco and other 130 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: people talk about it, If you really think about it, 131 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: he's too good of a a weapon for a quarterback 132 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: that is in a very pivotal year for you not 133 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: to use him on the offensive side of the ball. 134 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: I would be more I would be more agreeing with 135 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: the idea of playing him one way if you were 136 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: playing him one way as a receiver at this point, 137 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: because he gives an added dimension, he gives a weapon. 138 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: If people are saying that he's in comparison impact wise, 139 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: he could have the same type of impact that Justin 140 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Jefferson has on the receiving corps that you know that's 141 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: what Trevor Lawrence is needing in need of. Then why 142 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: would you play him on the defensive side of the ball. 143 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: If that's the case, If that's the you know, the the. 144 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: Expectation or what people look at as the potential of 145 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 4: him as a receiver, then that's a dangerous offense all 146 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: of a sudden. Because Brian Thomas Junior doesn't get talked 147 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 4: about enough. That guy's a flat out stud. And for 148 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: all the love that Malik Neighbors gets, go look at 149 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 4: Brian Thomas junior from last year. 150 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: He's fantastic. 151 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: So if you've got him and then Travis Hunter on 152 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: the other side, that's a problem. I just you have 153 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: to at least if you're Liam Kohen, you have to 154 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: at least try it out on defense. If the approach 155 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 4: is we're gonna like because the decordinate and Jacksonville is 156 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 4: already like, man, you can see it his instincts. We 157 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 4: put him out there a couple of times in OTAs 158 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 4: or whatever, and Liam Cohne said, look, he's come to 159 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 4: me and said, hey, can we work with him again today. 160 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: I just wonder how they're going to manage this, because, 161 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: you know, Willy Coloone's the better question, like Willy Colone saying, listen, man, 162 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: you're not going to last you know seventeen games, that 163 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: that's not how this works, Like you're not like we're 164 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: I'm going to let it be known that this is different. 165 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: And I just wonder how they may I think that's 166 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: a hot take. The reason why I don't think it's 167 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: a hot take is because you are literally taking up 168 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: two major position groups like you're you're taking up you're 169 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: a one for two. So if it's going to be 170 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: hard for a receiver to make it through, like any 171 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: receiver is going to be a grind to make it 172 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: through because all the running that you're doing as a corner, 173 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's going to be hard for 174 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: you to make it through because of all of the 175 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: running that you're doing. So to double that up and 176 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: say you're gonna play both positions, you're basically saying that 177 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: your injury expectancy doubles. It doubles, right, That's what you 178 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: got to soue. It can't be a hot take to 179 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: say if a guy is playing taking up two, you're 180 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: basically taking up two roster spots like this again, I 181 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: said this earlier on. If the man were to play 182 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: two positions and to play them successfully, do you understand 183 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: what that means? To me? What that means is once 184 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: he gets to his contract year, you have to pay 185 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: him as a two way player. This is nothing like 186 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: to me, there's no reason to look at it and 187 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: not know what the intentions are in wanting to play 188 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: both ways. It's not just to be playing both ways. 189 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: You want to get paid as a two way player 190 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: when you go back to the table or your second contracts. 191 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: Like when Jimmy Graham wanted to get paid as a 192 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: wide receiver, and they're like, you're a tight end. 193 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: He goes, look at how I line up. Majority of 194 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: the time I line up as a wider. This is 195 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: totally different now, but I'm saying so it's so different. 196 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: In fact, it is unprecedented to understand the idea of 197 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm coming to you. Look at what Justin Jefferson made 198 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: as a top receiver. So if I prove to you 199 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm a top receiver, and then look at who's the 200 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: top paid cornerback in the league, it might be is 201 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: it Stingley or Horn? 202 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 6: Okay, so let's just say, okay, so I am one 203 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 6: of the top rated corners, grading out as high as 204 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 6: one of the top paid corners, and I'm a top 205 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 6: top rated receiver rate it out next to the top 206 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 6: rated receivers in the league, and I'm doing both successfully. 207 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: How are you going to pay him? How is that categorized? 208 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: Do you just say, oh, we're going to pay even 209 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: his contract? Now? How does he he in theory, he 210 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: is deserving to be paid for two roster spots if 211 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: he's a true two way player. Do you think he 212 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: can hold up? That's a lot again, I think it's 213 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: a you've doubled the odds of getting injured. Can he 214 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: hold up? Yes? For how long? That's probably going to 215 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: be the biggest question. And he's not the biggest guy 216 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: in the world, right, but that could work in his favor. 217 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not in the most physical of days 218 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: for football. It's not I mean, am we're not. We're not. 219 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: You're not in a situation where, if you do things 220 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: the right way, you make good business decisions out there 221 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: on the football field, that you can't pretty much stay 222 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: unscathed physically. I'm not saying he won't hold up physically 223 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: in terms of getting hit. I'm saying can he hold 224 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: up physically the amount of running he's going to be doing. 225 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: That's a lot of right, And you would assume that 226 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: they're going to put Travis Hunter on established being a 227 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: cover corner. So chances are they're going to put Travis Hunter. 228 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: If he proves out of early stage that he's good 229 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: enough to do it, you're going to put him on 230 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: the number one receiver. So not only is he going 231 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's running as a one or 232 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: as a two receiver, but if he's going both ways, 233 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: and he's covering their number one receiver, and he's their 234 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: number one or number two receiver. He's running a ton 235 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: of routes. He's doing a ton of covering of guys 236 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: running a ton of routes. It's just how are you 237 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: going to manage his reps? How are you going to 238 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: manage how he practices? How are you going to manage 239 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: all of these things that will require a true two 240 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: way player, because in the pros, even in college, two 241 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: way players like it's where do you have the time, 242 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: Like you're going to have to split time? Because it's 243 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: not like high school where it's like you don't have 244 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: enough players. So generally, unless you're a big school, generally 245 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: you have periods. You have offensive side, you have defensive side, 246 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: because you got a lot of two way players like 247 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: two ways. Playing two ways isn't foreign to football players. 248 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: If you played high school football at a normal high school, 249 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: if you gone to a big high school, that's different. 250 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: There's more likelihood you play one position or one side 251 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: of the ball. But for most people, you're not. It's 252 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: not foreign to you to play both sides of the ball. 253 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 4: Even just looking at the depth chart for the Jaguars 254 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: and again, all this stuff changes. We're not even a 255 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: training camp now. Just seeing Travis Hunter as the wide 256 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: receiver opposite of Brian Thomas Junior and then listed now 257 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: the backup cornerback to Jerry and Jones, Like just even 258 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: seeing that makes this whole thing that much more fascinating. 259 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: Like I'm fascinated to see not only you know, as 260 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: Willie Colone mentioned, just the reaction, how he's going to 261 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: be approached, you know, by by other players who see 262 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 4: him out there, but also how are the Jaguars going 263 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: to pull this off? Because if you're if you're Liam Cohen, 264 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: now it becomes difficult to understand. All, right, snap count wise, 265 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: he's not going to maybe want to come out of games, 266 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: but maybe you need to take him out for a 267 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: few snaps just because he's tired, but you know, he 268 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: wants to tell. And then you've got to consider once 269 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: you get past the eleventh, twelfth week of the season, 270 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: now it's you know where they taught was that that 271 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: rookie wall? After you get about that point, like now 272 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 4: you've got to worry about the back end of the season, 273 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: and it's just him being a rookie. 274 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: I just the whole thing is fascinating to me because 275 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: we have I just think the most fascinating part of 276 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: it all is if he has success, if he has 277 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: great success playing both ways, success like true two way player, 278 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: his agency is going to have to do the unthinkable 279 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: and you're going to have to negotiate a deal that 280 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: pays him like he's two players. There's no way around it. 281 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: If that man is able to be successful playing both ways, 282 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: you cannot give him a contract that's for a cornerback 283 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: when he's successful as a cornerback and you can't give 284 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: him a or he's successful as a receiver and you 285 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: can't give him he's successful as a cornerback when he 286 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm mixing it up, but you know what I'm trying 287 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: to say. If he's playing one side of the ball, 288 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: you can't give him a contract. Let me restate this, 289 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: all right. This is crazy because I'm confusing myself, but 290 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm not confused both sides of the ball. He's successful, 291 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: if he's successful, goes back to getting the contract redone. 292 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: You can't pay him to just be a receiver when 293 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: he's successful as a cornerback. If he goes back to 294 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: the table and he's had successful on both sides of 295 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: the ball. You can't just pay him for being successful 296 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: as a cornerback because he's been successful as a wide receiver. 297 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: That's how I wanted to get it out, and that 298 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: is the biggest to me. That will be the biggest 299 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: storyline in all of football history. It will be up 300 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: there in the conversation of biggest, biggest happenings in the 301 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: league in the history of the game. If he's able 302 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: to be successful being a true, it has to be 303 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: true two way player. 304 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: And that's why I brought up the Jimmy Graham's story 305 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: because you know the Saints here, it might have been 306 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: the Sea whoever was he was trying to argue it 307 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: for at that time, they wanted to pay him at 308 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: the position that was going to be cheaper, and so 309 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: you know they want listen, no, no, no, you're a 310 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 4: tight end. You have but line up as a wide 311 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: receiver more. No, no, no, you're a tight end. If 312 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 4: you're Travis Hunter and you're negotiating at that point with 313 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: the Jaguars, I mean, they're gonna try and get. 314 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: The best deal. Got it like this, even if they're 315 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: playing him as a backup corner and they have a starter, 316 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: or they have him as a starting corner and a 317 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: backup receiver and he's still producing, I would still demand 318 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: that I get paid whatever that wage is for that 319 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: roster spot that I'm you that I'm taking up when 320 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: I go out there on the field. If I'm getting 321 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: the same amount of reps, I want to be paid 322 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: for getting the reps as a player that goes into 323 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: the game, whatever it is that's required, what that costs. 324 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: I want fear market value for that. And if he's 325 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: doing that in two different positions, on two different sides 326 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: of the ball, you gotta pay them. Like, how do 327 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: you not pay them? How do you not do that deal? 328 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: And what does that look like? How do you justify 329 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: one over the other? I don't you know. I don't know. 330 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: And to me, that is the most intriguing aspect of 331 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: all of this is if he's able to pull it off, 332 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: what the hell does the NFL do if he proves 333 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: he's elite at both? Is he like AE hundred million 334 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: dollars due guarantee? That'd be great. I mean, by that 335 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: time we're talking to what three four years from now, 336 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: who the hell knows. So you're talking like you're gonna 337 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: be forty forty four cornerbacks, maybe fifty fifty sixty four receivers. Travis, 338 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: we'll give you a hundred million. We gotta give you 339 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: one hundred million. 340 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 4: By the way, we're not that far off from somebody 341 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 4: making one hundred million in a season. 342 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: Like we're telling what did we ten maybe ten twelve 343 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: years away. It's two I mean, there's no way around. 344 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: It's two roster spots. It's two roster spots. He's taken 345 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: up if he's a true two way player. It is 346 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: two Pros and a Cup of Joe. 347 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 4: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with 348 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: you coming up next though somebody has one quarterbacks back. 349 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: They're gonna defend their guy and they're gonna call out 350 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 4: their own organization. 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What I did the radio show 371 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: in Iowa? From a closet position to put into a closet? Hey, 372 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: can we please isolate what LeVar just said? 373 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: Can we f eight that lee and have that for 374 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 4: the best of at the end at the end of 375 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 4: the year, just so uh, some people can get an 376 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 4: understanding as to what's happened over there. Put you in 377 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 4: the clause ever months on the show, I just want 378 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 4: to be clear on that. 379 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: I ain't in Nobody's closet. Man. It is two pros 380 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: and a cup of Joe. 381 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 4: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with 382 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: you a special birthday show here for the one and 383 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: only LeVar Arrington and some of the best of cliffs 384 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 4: since being here on the show that we'll bounce back 385 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 4: with each and every segment here. 386 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: Celebrate your big b day. Happy brother, you old man. 387 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: Thank you to Kembe. Is that the Kembay? Is that 388 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: the Big Show? Or is that the Cookie Monster? Okay, 389 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: that's dikembe. 390 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 4: Uh coming up and we'll call it a little over 391 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: fifteen minutes from now. We are going to have a 392 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: Monday tradition here on the show. It's the FSR i R. 393 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 4: That's where we report any issues, injuries, ailments from a 394 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 4: long weekend here with the crew on Fox Sports Radio. 395 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: Brice Hall, he was on the Get gott podcast with 396 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: Marshawn Lynch. Yeah and uh you know and Mike Robinson 397 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 4: as well too, former Seahawks teammates, and he had this 398 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: to say about his time with Aaron Rodgers and what 399 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: last year. 400 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: Was like with the New York Jets. 401 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 8: Very misunderstood person. Great dude comes off to people a 402 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 8: certain way, but once you really get to know him, 403 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 8: you realize how good of a person he is. But 404 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 8: last year, you know, when you're when you're losing games, 405 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 8: to blame us put on the on the faces of 406 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 8: the team. So and it just so happened to be 407 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 8: like gods like me, Sauce, Garrett, Aaron Quinnin and Quincy. 408 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 8: So I feel like, you know, when you're losing, somebody 409 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 8: has to get to get let go. But what people 410 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 8: don't realize is when stuff is crazy organizationally, then it's 411 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 8: hard for the players to you know, have stability and 412 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 8: win games. So I feel like, you know, you can't 413 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 8: you can't always blame the players because when you're stressed 414 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 8: out mentally, physically, and emotionally, it's hard to show up 415 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 8: every Sunday, every Monday, every Thursday. 416 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: So that was Breshall's It's a legitimate point, and it's 417 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: a point that has been stated for many, many years, 418 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: many years. I would have loved to known what the 419 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: stress and all those things that, you know, what was 420 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: causing that for them, the fatigue, all those things that 421 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: was leading to the results that were coming. I would 422 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: love to I wish they would have doubled down on 423 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: asking what what it What in particular were those elements, 424 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: because I think that's pretty that's important to know, because 425 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: he's absolutely right, Like listen, you can never say the 426 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: players aren't culpable, because they're the ones that go on 427 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: the field. But ultimately, if you're not in and I 428 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: say it all the time, I know it sound like 429 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: a broken record, but if you're not in an environment 430 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: that is conducive to having success, you will not have 431 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: success by accident. It just doesn't happen. 432 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: If the Jets had Patrick Mahomes. Is he still Patrick 433 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 4: Mahomes No? Like no, And that's why you just you 434 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: look at the idea of Rogers going there and all 435 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: the expectations and you just kind of take a step back, 436 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 4: and you recognized it before Brady and I did, and 437 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: I just kind of, now take a step back. 438 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: Then I may play away. My IQ was high enough 439 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: to recognize that there you go. You mean, I would 440 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: I say something that I saw and before you and Brady? Yes, 441 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, imagine that town. 442 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, up top bar, all right, But I just 443 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: take a step back and you realize, oh, that just 444 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 4: wasn't going to work. And the reasons for anyone. Yeah, 445 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 4: and that's that. This isn't a Rogers thing, This isn't 446 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: a defensive Aaron Rodgers. This is more of a look 447 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: around at recent quarterbacks with the New York Jets. All right, 448 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: Geno Smith was drafted by the Jets. It didn't work, 449 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 4: didn't work. Geno Smith's career has now been revived and 450 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 4: he's the starting quarterback for the Raiders, and you feel 451 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 4: way better about the Raiders chances this year because of 452 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 4: Geno Smith. That was the guy that the Jets drafted 453 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: and it didn't work. Sam Darnold just had the best 454 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 4: season of his career and just got paid. He was 455 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: a former Jets quarterback. Yes, he was like, we don't know. 456 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: Oh, now, Zach Wilson, former overall number one number what 457 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: was it, number one? Number two? Number two, yeah, number 458 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: two overall, he's not even there anymore. 459 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 4: Not there anymore. And now that I've now that, you 460 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 4: start to look at the track record and the history 461 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 4: of the Jets and it's you know, whether it's quarterback 462 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 4: or whatnot. Man, I don't know how you look at 463 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 4: Zach Wilson and go, yeah, we've seen everything we need 464 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 4: to see from him. I would love to see Zach 465 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: Wilson get a shot because I want to know what 466 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 4: was it. Because I'm starting to believe no matter who 467 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 4: it is, it's not going to work there. And that's 468 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 4: why Justin Field's making the decision to leave Pittsburgh because 469 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 4: he got a little bit more money to go to 470 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 4: the Jets. It's almost like he thinks, no, no, no, I'm 471 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: going to be the guy that's going to change this. 472 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: Good luck man. 473 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: Like, there's been a lot of people that have said 474 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 4: the same thing, a lot of coaches who have said 475 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 4: the same thing, and somehow, someway it always falls apart. 476 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, like Rex Ryan, he was close. 477 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 9: He was close that he went to AFC Championship games, 478 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 9: and somehow, some way, even in the midst of all 479 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 9: that foot fetishes, Mark Sanchez tattoos. 480 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: It just always seems I used to really care about 481 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: the drama and a circus. If the if the team 482 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: is on the same page, the coaches are on the 483 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: same page, the organization all on the same if everybody's 484 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: on the same page, and the culture is supportive, and 485 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: it's you against the world and people are coming at 486 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: you and doing foot fetishes and this that and the 487 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: other I don't care, it doesn't matter. And they were winning, 488 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: and they were winning now at the time of the 489 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: foot fetish. I think that that was during the time 490 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: of it going downhill for reps, I do believe. But 491 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: they were winning at one point and the ground and 492 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: pound was real, their defense was real, and they had 493 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: a legitimate team that was vying for a Super Bowl appearance. 494 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: They really were that good. Now, how they were able 495 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: to find that within all of the chaos. Maybe it 496 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: was because a guy like Rex Ryan, knowing the NFL 497 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: landscape so well because of being around his entire life 498 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: with his dad. Maybe he was able to facilitate in 499 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: a way where the guys were on the same page. 500 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: He had who he needed to be on the same page. 501 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but I would have 502 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: to say that the coach would have to beat a 503 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: catalyst in that scenario if that were to ever take place. 504 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer did it in Washington. Dan Snyder was uncomfortable 505 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: with it and got rid of him. He wanted more 506 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: of a guy who was in line with how he 507 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: wanted him to do things and run things as a 508 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: hit coach, and they got rid of them. You did 509 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: Draft Night here at Fox Sports Radio with Joe Douglas. 510 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: All Right, he strikes me as somebody who knows his stuff, 511 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: and listening to that show, the way that he drafted 512 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: in New York, he knows this stuff. Like I look 513 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: at him, you know, being you know, obviously fired during 514 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: the season with the Jets, and it's like, all right, 515 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: I'll bet it's not long before that guy's at GM again. 516 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: I'd be willing to bet it is not long before 517 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas is hired as a GM again. And look, 518 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: he just got hired by Philly. He's going to help 519 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: out their front office. 520 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: I just I don't know how you come away with 521 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: any other conclusion with this much, this many different coaches, 522 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 4: this many different quarterbacks, this many different gms. There's constant change. 523 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 4: The only thing that stays the same is the stuff 524 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: up top. 525 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: There you go. I just stay around that, And I 526 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: don't know. 527 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: At some point, if you're a Jets fan, get excited 528 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: all you want and say, oh, you know, we didn't 529 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: need Rogers and there's all this, and you know we 530 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 4: didn't need Robert Salah was this and he was all right, 531 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 4: you keep pointing at all the other issues except for 532 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: the major one, which is it's the same people running 533 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 4: the show, and it's the same results every time. 534 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: If you make it, if you make it that simple, 535 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: then you're able to come up with your conclusion. Right, 536 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: it is the same thing. Again. I'll continue to use 537 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: Washington as as my example because I know it pretty well. 538 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: You had within a four year period of time, a 539 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: three year period of time, you have four coaches. Right 540 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: at some point, you were having a new head coach 541 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: every year. You were having a new defensive coordinator every year. 542 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: You were having a new offensive coordinator every year. How 543 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: you supposed to as a player. So hold on, so 544 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: hold on, right, So you have all these different different 545 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: coaching changes and you're still getting the same results. You 546 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: get Joe Gibbs. He comes in, he gets one good 547 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: run out of it, one really good run out of it, 548 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: and then he gets up out of there. He never 549 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: really got that far. So if you're looking at it 550 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: as you go all the way into the bag of tricks, 551 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: and you go as deep as to bring back a 552 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: legendary coach that won super Bowls with the team with 553 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: three different quarterbacks and can't get it done. He's got 554 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: to go. You've had numerous quarterbacks, You've had numerous players 555 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: at every other position. You had numerous players or numerous 556 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: people at GM, You've had numerous people as your scouting department, 557 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: numerous people in your sales department, numerous people everywhere in 558 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: your organization. At what point in time do you say, 559 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: with all of the lack of success that it has 560 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: to be the culture of the place. Like, that's as 561 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: simple as it gets. You can only come up with 562 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: the conclusion of it has to be the culture starting 563 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: with the person who owns it. Whatever tone that is 564 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: that that person sets, that's what the tone, that's what 565 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: the personality. Just like they say the team takes on 566 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: the personality of the coach, the organization takes on the 567 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: person out. Depending on how the ownership is, I'll say, 568 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: if you have present ownership, which Dan Snyder was, which 569 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: Woody Johnson is, If you have present ownership, then that 570 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: present ownership, the way they handle things are ultimately are 571 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: going to be the tone setter and the barometer and 572 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: the measuring stick of how everything is going to be ran, 573 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: how you're supposed to think about things. If you're feeling 574 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: like it's like he's like got everybody scared going to 575 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: fire you. If you don't do what you're supposed to do, 576 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: then everybody's going to walk around with the feeling of 577 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to fire you, I'm gonna get fired. I'm 578 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: only it's only a matter of time if I don't 579 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: do X, Y and Z. If you're in a place 580 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, if you get here at an 581 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: early time and there's a parking space closer to the 582 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: to the door, you get that parking space. There's nothing given. 583 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: It's all about merit system, meritocracy of what's going on here, 584 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: then that's what you have. But it's going to come 585 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: from the tone setters, which are generally the ownership and 586 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: for what it's worth, Woody Johnson has not been a 587 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: person that would get a good grade, a glowing grade 588 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: on on creating a healthy culture to be able to win. 589 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: And the thing that blows my mind is there's no 590 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 4: shortage of people that continue to want to sign up 591 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 4: for that. Rex Ryan wanted back in. He campaigned openly 592 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: on radio TV wanted back in. And I don't know 593 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 4: if it's because, well, I'm the one to change the culture. 594 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: I'm the one to change the fortune of the franchise. 595 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: It's like these serial killers who have people fall in 596 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 4: love with them, and you get these weirdos who show 597 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 4: up to prison and they're like giving them gifts and 598 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: wanting to get married. It's like, well, I could be 599 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 4: the one to change him. No, you're gonna be the 600 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 4: one that ends up in the trunk of a car somewhere, 601 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: just like everybody else. And for some reason, all these 602 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 4: people still want to go in there and like Aaron Glenn, 603 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 4: opportunity of a lifetime former New York jet and you 604 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 4: hope it goes well. 605 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. 606 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: I feel like we've got enough evidence over the past 607 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 4: few decades and it's not gonna end up all that 608 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 4: well for anybody. 609 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: You just wonder, is there the chance that someone who 610 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: has created such a corrosive and toxic environment, are they 611 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: able to change their ways and in a way where 612 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: in a manner where it changes how everybody does things. 613 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean to see the way Washington is now with 614 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: the new ownership that was one year's time. What changed. 615 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: Imagine Like I'm walking around the stadium and like people 616 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: are happy, Like walking to the owner's box, people were happy, 617 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: like it wasn't. It's crazy, man, It's crazy. Like it 618 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: just felt good. Felt it felt like a party, like 619 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: they up in that bitch partying, like damn, like what's 620 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: up LeVar? Like what's up LeVar? Never thought it would happen, 621 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: never thought I'd go back, went back and just seeing how, 622 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, the new Ownership group, how they handle things 623 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: and the and you know what it is Jonas. I 624 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: always say, because I'm an entrepreneur, I know we got 625 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: to get out of here. But I always say, if 626 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: you treat people like people, then they will return and 627 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: reciprocate that feeling of treating you like a person back. 628 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: If you guys are treating one another as people, then 629 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: there's a strong chance that people will start to take ownership. 630 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: Not just come show up and clock in to do 631 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: a job, but they will actually take ownership, personal accountability 632 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: and ownership over what it is that they're doing. I 633 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: saw that in New York as a player, and that's 634 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: something that I've always tried to emulate. And the things 635 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: that I do is to be a person to the 636 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: people I work with. I never like to say people 637 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: work for me. I always like to say we work together. 638 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: And just knowing that treating people like people knowing their name, 639 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: knowing their family's name, knowing what's going on with their kids, 640 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: and you know, different life experiences, being able to handle 641 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 1: things that way, where you show people that they matter. 642 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: Mss bj at the Front desk of Washington, she mattered. 643 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: You know, Vlati cleaning the locker rooms and all that stuff. 644 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: He mattered. Brad Berlin and Anders and the in the 645 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: equipment room, they matter. Larry and Dean and the rest 646 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: of the group that were in the training room. Bubba 647 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: Bubba tired. They all mattered. Yeah, they all mattered. The 648 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: guys in the weight room, the guys who cut the 649 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: lawn and put the lines on the field. If you're 650 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: one of those guys where all those guys matter, then 651 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: that ownership level goes up through the roof, and then 652 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: the morale is always high. And if everything isn't going right, 653 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: you're still able to get through those times and get 654 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: through those things because everybody has a good rapport and 655 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: a good feeling with one another. You didn't create this elitism, 656 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: which is I don't even think is a word, but 657 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: like eliteness about you where it's like call him mister 658 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: Snyder and don't look at him in his eyes like 659 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: that's you've already set the tone. When mister Snyder comes 660 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: into the building. You're not to look at him in 661 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: the eyes. You are not to address him unless he 662 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: addresses you, and if he addresses you, you are to 663 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: address him as mister Snyder. That was the standard. And 664 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: he all he's had his bodyguards with him. He always 665 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: had his security with him, both sides strapped. Oh so 666 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: you couldn't even slap him around a little bit. No, no, 667 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: you're not going to slap him around. 668 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 4: Slaping around by the way, We are brought to you 669 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 4: by Mattress Firm. Want to boost your performance with better 670 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 4: rest and get the sleep you deserve. With help from 671 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 4: Mattress Firms sleep experts, They'll match you with the right 672 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 4: mattress for your unique sleep. Need to get match at 673 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 4: Mattress Firms. Fourth of July Sale and Sleep at Night 674 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 4: coming up next here on Two Pros and a Cup 675 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 4: of Joe Here on Fox Sports Radio. 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Find out why 686 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 4: that's yours here on FSR. By the way, reminder that 687 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 4: you can stream this show and all of our Fox 688 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 4: Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven and the 689 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 4: new and improved iHeartRadio app. Search Fox Sports Radio and 690 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 4: the appter stream is live. 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So it's time to get 698 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 2: the FSR IR report. 699 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 1: All right, I got something, Go ahead, what'd you get? 700 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 701 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 4: If this isn't actually my ir, but so I'm in 702 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 4: church with my son, he's four years old. And you know, 703 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 4: we're sitting in church and there's this room off to 704 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 4: the side where you know, you can have kids. You know, 705 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 4: kids start getting a little loud or they start crying 706 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 4: or whatever, so we usually go into that room. It's 707 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 4: a little bit cooler, there's more room, and you know, 708 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 4: we're just watching the mass. You know on the television, 709 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 4: you'd hear it through the speakers and all that stuff. 710 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 4: And we're just watching the Mass. And this mom's in 711 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 4: there and she's got her three daughters. There's an older 712 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 4: one who's probably like around seven, there's another one who's 713 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 4: probably five, and then a little baby. And the mom 714 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 4: comes out and the middle child is on the carpet 715 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 4: of the church kind of playing around, and the mom 716 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 4: tells her. 717 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: She's like, no, keep get that's disgusting. 718 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 4: And the girl wasn't moving fast enough, so the mom 719 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 4: literally reached down and pulled her up by her ear. 720 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 4: What And the girl's like rubbing her side of her face, 721 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 4: trying not to cry. I come home and I tell 722 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 4: my wife. I'm like, I tell her the story. She goes, oh, yeah, 723 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 4: she's probably Mexican. Oh wow, Like what what is that? 724 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: Was? 725 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 4: Like, oh, yeah, our mom and grandma used to do 726 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 4: that to us all the time. Oh, that's that's the thing. 727 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 4: She goes, Yeah, grown up Mexican that's just reached out 728 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 4: and grabbed somebody by the ear. 729 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: The girls holding the side of her. Isn't that like 730 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: one of the most sensitive spots Tang tang