1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Dan Hansis alongside Chris Westling Hey, Mark Sessler, 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: and the Boss Greg Rosenthal where they around the NFL 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: podcast Check us out three times a week as we 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: discussed the latest NFL news as it happened, always, of course, 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: with a touch of mirth. Subscribe at NFL dot com, 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: Slash Podcasts, iTunes and Stitcher. Wow, fantasy Freaks and geeks, 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: What is up? James go here on the NFL Fantasy 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: Life Podcast. Uh, great show today one because we're gonna 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: have great content. We're gonna be talking about deep sleepers. 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: It's it's my personal favorite topic and fantasy I know 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: for a lot of you as well. But we welcome 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: back the franchise. Matt Francisco, Hey, man, what's up? Dude? 13 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? How's it going? Glad to be back. 14 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: Your sabbatical has ended. It has ended. Give us one 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: good story from the sabbatical, one good story. I don't 16 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: know that's tough, but let me uh let me. Let 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: me just start by saying, listen, listen, it's my third 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: year in the system. I'm in the best shape of 19 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: my life. I'm ready to take my game to the 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: next level and you know all the coaches say the 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: sky is the limit. So very good. I'm back and 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go very good. Shall already I like 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: it just tossing them out. Um, I want you to 24 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: think about the best story you had over the sabbatical. 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Drop it in on Daily DApp. I will, I will 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: very good. Alright. UM, we're gonna be talking about deep 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: sleepers and something called NFC Red Zone Analysis. We'll beginning 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: to that, uh when the show progresses. But remember you 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: can sign up today NFL dot com slash Fantasy. 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Marcus Grant and 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: Alex gal are actually broke it down. Um, I'm shocked 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: and appalled, and kudos to you guys. I couldn't do 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: it get myself to do that. That would be tough. 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: It takes it takes uh you know, a mountain or 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: whatever known as Marcus and I to just sold you 45 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: through all those I d P s in the off season. 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: He look, I realized that the I d P community 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: isn't large, but those of you out there you are. 48 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: You are fanatical and you are loyal. So props to that. 49 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Props to NFL dot com. Slash your draft kid, be 50 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: sure to check it out. All right, let's get to 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: our top headlines, the camera highlights in the world of 52 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: streaking breaking news, breaking whistle likely continue to follow breaking news. Alright, 53 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: We'll start in Baltimore, Broschard Perriman is never gonna play 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: football again. No, I, I kid, I kid look sharp. 55 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: Peman Um there was a report of a partially torn 56 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: a c L. Remember he hasn't played a single snap 57 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL yet. He reportedly was supposed to go 58 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: into the knife. But I don't have it in front 59 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: of me. But Marcus, Uh I think Ian Rappaport tweeted 60 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: out something um late breaking here. Uh yeah, that he 61 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: is not going to need or that he won't be 62 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: done for the year. Um, let's let me get the tweet. 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: Actually itself good news for the Ravens and wide receiper 64 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Brishod Perriman. His knee was deemed stable enough, got a 65 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: stem cell injection, expected to be okay for so didn't 66 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: need surgery. I think there was like minors, there's this today, 67 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: just like it was a little arthroscopic scale. But that 68 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: was that's why he went with Dr James Andrews, because 69 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: it was determining whether or not he would just need 70 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: the stem cell shot or full reconstruction, which would have 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: taken him out for this year. So he went to 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: James Andrews. Everybody does, is there anybody with a better 73 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: job in the country right now than Dr James Andrews. 74 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: But you only go to James Andrews if you've heard 75 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: some bad stuff. You need it triple confirmed and he 76 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: usually confirms that it is bad. Um. So not looking 77 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: great for Brichard Pairman. I don't think anybody's drafting Bschard Pairman. 78 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: That's fine, um, but it's kind of in conjunction with 79 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: the second piece of news out of Baltimore that Steve 80 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: Smith Senior Triple s Uh says he doesn't know when 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: he's coming back. It was kind of an ominous interview 82 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: that I think ESPN had first um because I mean 83 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: it's it's true though too. He tore his achilles mid season. 84 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 1: How old is seven thirty seven years old? He tours 85 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: achilles mid season. It's an injury that takes gosh. I 86 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: mean on the short end, it probably takes about nine 87 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: months on a short end um at given thirty seven 88 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: years old, I think he'd be fair to assume and 89 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: probably take a full year. Yeah, on the Achilles, he 90 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: was just being realistic, like he has you know, he 91 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: hasn't done anything yet. He was running. He's not sure 92 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: he maybe he'll get out there in training camp maybe later. 93 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: But it's an injury too that isn't like it's not 94 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: like a c LS these days where it's just like 95 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: lickety split, Oh wow, it's it's healed. It It's an 96 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: injury that does sap you of a little bit of 97 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: explosiveness and stuff. So it's he will have to keep 98 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: an eye on when he comes back. But man, with 99 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: with this news, I think to spin it ahead. But 100 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: the most attractive pass catching option from the ravens Now 101 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: has become franchises. Boy, it's your boy, it's your boy. 102 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Franchise miracle. What's up, man? What should we get excited 103 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: about for Kamarin? Uh ninety receptions and eight hundred yards 104 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: and eight touchdowns. That's your projection, that's my projection. If 105 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: he gets ninety catches, bro, he had seventy five last year. No, 106 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if he gets ninety catches, he's he's gonna 107 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: crush the yard your yardage projection? All right, Well, he will. 108 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if he getsptions I think yards, I mean 109 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: the pace he was on from week ten to seventeen 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: last year, if he if it. Obviously I don't like 111 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: doing this because it's not an exact science, but just 112 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: to look, if he gets that type of volume and 113 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: produces at a similar level he was on pace for 114 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: like a hundred catches, like a thousand ish yards and 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: like eight touchdowns. Yea, I think I I think I 116 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: think if again, if he gets to that ninety number 117 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: on on an entire year, I think I think he'd 118 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: be pushing eleven hundred he I mean, and did not 119 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: jump ahead. He was one guy before all these injuries. 120 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: And Steve Smith when he was coming back was a 121 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: guy had pegged as a deep sleeper because he played 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: pretty well down the stretch and the volume could be 123 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: there Mike Wallace, if especially if Smith and Pairman aren't percent, 124 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: I guess would be the number one and like the 125 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: deep Smith deep threat, like Tory Smith roll that used 126 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: to happen. But Camar a Can might command a lot 127 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: more talgets as the possession guy. Let's just get down 128 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: to brass toes. Alright, let's do it. Could camar Can 129 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: potentially be a candidate for the March to eleven. WHOA, 130 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not you know, I'm not asking you. 131 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm not you to pick him. But I mean, like 132 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: I know, there's there's gotta be a short list for me. 133 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, be on the short list. That would be 134 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: the boldest. No, No, he's on. He's on the short list. 135 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I actually like him, I actually like the talent level. Um, 136 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mind him at all, Um, just 137 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: I think the offense scares me a little bit. Um. 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: I really like their their running game and they got 139 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: a couple of good tight ends. As Alex Gilhard knows 140 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: as well. I don't know, man, you know, I'm not 141 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: as excited about kamar As as I am about Marvin Jones, 142 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: which is probably well, I mean a I watched you know, 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: he's from Callen, been following his careers as colored, so 144 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: it's more fun to route for that guy. And also 145 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna be throwing the ball. I think a hell 146 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: of a lot more in detail. So I gosh, man, 147 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: I almost want to say concrete m Jones is my 148 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: guy for the Marshal closing in. You know, we're closing 149 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: in quick on the Baltimore offense before we jump away too. 150 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: As you mentioned some concerns. Let's also not forget that 151 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: it was Flacco that tore his a c L two 152 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: in week eleven, so we gotta we have to watch 153 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: his comeback as well, and and how he looks and 154 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: how confident he is on that knee. I forget which 155 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: nee it was, but whether it's the backup quarterback there, 156 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett, I think maybe Matt Shops still. I don't know, 157 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't know who's still there. Let me Jimmy Jimmy Clawson, 158 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: did Josh Josh Johnson? Ryan Mallett, Yeah, so it's Mallett still. 159 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: I told you Josh Johnson somewhere. Josh Johnson is somewhere. 160 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: That dude is just everywhere. He's on every team, you 161 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think he's the third string 162 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: quarterback for seven teams concurrently. Well, here's the thing. I mean, Look, 163 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: he's he's the first Jim Harball quarterback, right, I mean 164 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: he was. He was used University of San Diego guy 165 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: when hardball was there. You know, I don't know, maybe 166 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: hardball coaching is keeping him in the league. There's a 167 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: great piece on him traveling around and trying to find 168 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: a you know, car having out a career for himself. 169 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: But but it's great. It's a good read. You should 170 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: try to find it. Good stuff. But Joe Flack obviously 171 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: not Draftablehard Pairmount not draftable. Steve Smith Senior, I will 172 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: ask you this is he draftable? I maybe late. I'm 173 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: not going to be pulling the trigger on him. I 174 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: know some people are. I was just in an industry 175 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: actual draft already, um last week, and somebody took Steve 176 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: Smith in one of the later rounds with a PPR 177 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,119 Speaker 1: format for twelve guys in it. But twelve team PPR, 178 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: where's he go? Twelve did he go to round twelve later? Yeah? 179 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: I was like round twelve or later. I think, all right, 180 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: there you go. How about Crocker, Gilmore, Max Williams, Now, 181 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: it's ben it's Benjamin Watson there. Now. I think that's 182 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: that's a tough that's a tough position group to figure 183 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: out too, because Watson played really well last year. Gilmore 184 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: showed some flashes. Williams is in his second year now, 185 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: so it's not the rookie tight end thing. Just big 186 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: old shrug emoji and the ravens. I was saying before 187 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: we started recording. They got Aaron Waller who's a former 188 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver. He's making the move to tight end this year, James, 189 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: I do north of the Waller? Absolutely? Um? Wow? Really 190 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: is he going he's moving the tight end? Yeah, that's 191 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: what I read yesterday doing some reason. He's an athletic 192 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: free guys, he's an athletic free huge too. Yeah, absolutely, 193 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: it's that's interesting. I gotta do a little bit more 194 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: research into that. I like Darren Waller. All right, there 195 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: you go. How about in Kansas City, Jamal Charles says 196 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: he could return this week. Um, what does it mean 197 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: for his draft stats? I think we're kind of seeing 198 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: him go late second, early third already. Um, does it 199 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: boost his draft stock at all? Franchise? I think so. 200 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I personally, I like Charles is like an end of 201 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: the first round, like maybe in a twelve team league, 202 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: like a late first rounder. I know, so like anywhere 203 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: between twelve and fifteen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean 204 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: he's he's like, he's one of the only guys in 205 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: that top tier of running backs where we know what 206 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: his role is. You know, he can produce at an 207 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: elite level. He's had four top ten finishes in Fantasy 208 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: since two thousand nine. He's got two a cl tiers 209 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: in five Yeah, and he's getting older, but we know 210 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: his role, we know what his ceiling is. You see, 211 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: I would I would disagree. Do we know what his rules? 212 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: Some of these guys. Some of these guys we do, 213 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: because like look at his first two years with Andy Reid, 214 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: he amassed rushing yards, twenty one rushing touchdowns, almost a 215 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: thousand receiving yards and tend rushing to and tend receiving touchdowns. Listen, 216 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: I love Jamal Charles, but going into this year, I 217 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: don't know if we go into this year looking at 218 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: previous years and saying well, hey, look, the workload is 219 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: gonna be there. It's kind of like the whole Levy 220 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: on Bell thing, right, Like, it'd be crazy to assume 221 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: that they're just gonna say, hey, lev just here, just 222 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: shoulder this load. We know you have had serious injuries 223 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: back to back years, but it's all good. Hey, We're 224 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: just gonna give you this crazy load again. But I 225 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: don't know if Jamal Charles gets that that that same 226 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: workload again. Well, his his career average rush at temper 227 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: game is thirteen point two. So with that, with that 228 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: average rush attempts for game, he's been able to get 229 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: it done at an elite level with with those and 230 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: like the four or five receptions game or whatever, he'll 231 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: end up stooping up like, yeah, off, twenty touches. This 232 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: dude's just elite, right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying that 233 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: to get it done. So I I like Charles maybe 234 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: more than you guys do. But I know what I 235 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: got him. I got the I got him the lowest 236 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: ranked of of the six animals who have put rankings 237 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: up on NFL dot Com. Probably, um, I've got him somewhere. 238 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: I think I've got him twenty. I think I've got 239 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: him twenty overall, which will push him into the third 240 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: round in standard formats. But that's okay. When it comes 241 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: down to drafting him, it's whether or not you believe 242 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: he's going to achieve that that upside that we know 243 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: we've seen and get all his touches again like franchises saying, 244 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: or you wait a little bit and you know, cover 245 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: your back and in assuming that maybe because they signed 246 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: both Charchandrick West and Spencer where too small, very modest 247 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: contract extensions. But they mix those guys in to keep 248 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Charles a little more fresh. That's what I would think. 249 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: How about in Detroit, the Lions O C says he 250 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: wants theoretic more evolved in the run game. Uh, if 251 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: this doesn't scream out running back by committe, I don't 252 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: know what does it. It's totally gonna be a committee. Yeah, 253 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: I mean, but I think both of these guys can 254 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: be fairly productive. I like Riddick a lot, especially in 255 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: PPR situations. I mean, I think one of the things 256 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: that you look back on when the old JBC took 257 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: over as the offensive coordinator, Jim Bob Cooder, Um, they 258 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: threw the ball a lot, and they were very efficient. 259 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: They also threw a lot of shorter passes with Matt Stafford, 260 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: so I I would expect, um, you're gonna see a 261 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: lot more of that this year. I think you're gonna 262 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: see a lot of you know, a lot of intermediate 263 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: throws two guys like Golden Tate, Eric Ebron. But I 264 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: think you see a lot of underneath throws. And I 265 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 1: think theoretic steps in there now him being involved in 266 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: the run game. I don't know that I'm drafting him 267 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: on my fantasy roster expecting a lot of rushing production. Okay, 268 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: if he gets something, that's great, but I think he's 269 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: still going to be more of a pass catching back 270 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: in that offense. He's not a he's not the greatest 271 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: just between the tackles runner. He worked best in space 272 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: where he could beat linebackers. But the trouble was what 273 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: they identified and in the article that I think Kevin 274 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: Patrick wrote for NFL at Around the NFL, is that 275 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: any I Theorettic came on the field, it just screamed 276 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: pass pass defense. Knew what was going on with this. 277 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: Could this could be a good thing for the backfield? 278 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: If it disguises it more and helps put both theoretic 279 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: and a Merabdulah into more favorable matchups. Whether or not 280 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: that holds true and the already can actually put it 281 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: together as between the tackles runner or however they use him, 282 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: remains to be seen. This is what I think. I 283 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: think a mere Abdullah and his labor surgery is taking 284 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: a little bit longer um than probably either party expected, 285 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: having gone through a labor myself, I'll tell you, Look, 286 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: I know I'm not getting into the training training room 287 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: five days a week. I know that, right, But I'm 288 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: just saying the timetable for it, uh is anywhere between 289 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,239 Speaker 1: six or twelve months. It's a tricky, tricky uh surgery. 290 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: I think maybe that maybe the labor is taking a 291 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: lot longer and maybe having more of an impact on 292 00:14:53,800 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: a guy that had ball security issues last year. Anyways, um, 293 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: mixing and theoretic into actual runs does make a heck 294 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: of a lot of sense. He's but as you mentioned, man, 295 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: he's he's really good in short space pass routes. Man, 296 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: he is really good. We saw some uh, we saw 297 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: some advanced tape on him last year. I mean just 298 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: torturing line. You wanted to see somebody put linebackers on 299 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: skates just torturing him out there. It looked like, you know, 300 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: that's scene in a like a cartoon or a children's 301 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: movie where somebody like rolls a bunch of marbles out 302 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: and the bad guys like slipping slide on. That was 303 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: theoretic when he would be match up to one on 304 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: one with a linebacker. I like him a lot this year. 305 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: How many receptions did he have? Like he targets But 306 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: that's craziness, Yeah it was. But his career rushing yards 307 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: per carry is two point nine. That's that's that's that's 308 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: that's where he needs to improve. And we can't forget 309 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: about Zack Zentner, who's just kind of lurking around there. 310 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: He is, what's he coming back from? He had cracked 311 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: ribs and a partially punctured lung lass to hear that 312 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: that's no boy, no, no boy now. But you know 313 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: it's not a lower body injury now, So that's good. 314 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: And he's a he's a physical beast and he could 315 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: be their new short yardage and goal. I'm back. I'm 316 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: gonna be really interested to watch this backfield a little 317 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: bit during the preseason and stuff, and see kind of 318 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: how they divvy up touches. Looks come back from the 319 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: shoulder injury. You're saying theoretic is going to be on 320 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: the passing down work. You're saying, Zack center is gonna 321 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: be a good goal one looks good. Um, why am 322 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: I drafting ab to look in because he's good? Oh Man, 323 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: that that does not look like a great situation for 324 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: a mirab Douala from a fantasy from a fantasy perspective, 325 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: From a fantasy perspective, All right, let's go to Oakland. 326 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: Amark Cooper David Carr. Derek Carr rather says a Mark 327 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: Cooper could be more open this year. He's already getting 328 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: more open this year, is what he's saying, practice and stuff. 329 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: What does that mean with nobody defend yes, what does 330 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: that mean? I don't I don't know. How could you 331 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: be more open in shorts? It's a good trope when 332 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: guys are when guys are on him. I think it's 333 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: just that he's he knows more. Now. What the article 334 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: was saying with the quotes from car and Michael Crabtree 335 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: is that he understands like the space on the field 336 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: better and how to use it because he was a 337 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: very natural route runner coming out of college. Um, probably 338 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: the most polished last year, and we saw that a 339 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: lot of times. Yeah, they both just are making the 340 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: comment that now that he has a full year in 341 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: and he's you know, played through six NFL games, he 342 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: he just understands everything better and how to use his 343 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: his routes in the space on the field and the 344 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: defense to get more open. Can I play Devil's advocate 345 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: for a second, because I think just about everyone in 346 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: America believes Amari Cooper is going to have a breakout 347 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: season this year. Um, are we a little because of 348 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: that sentiment? Are we too bullish on him in rankings 349 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: and in drafts? Because where is he going right now? 350 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: Where do we got him? Who's got I think he's 351 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: floating around in the like wide receiver anywhere from wide 352 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: receiver twelve to twenty in our rankings. Okay, so locked 353 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: and loaded high end wide receiver too with and I 354 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: think just about again, I can't find a person who 355 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: is saying that Amari Cooper is being overdrafted. So I 356 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: think the perception is that he's got serious, serious wide 357 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: receiver one upside and he's right now locked and loaded 358 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: as a safe floor as a wide receiver to he's 359 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: again just playing Devil's advocate. Is he being slightly overdrafted? No, no, don't. 360 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think he might be. Like 361 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: his adp on Fantasy Football calculator right now, is he's 362 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: the eleventh wide receiver off of the board. But what 363 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: round pick of the second round in twelve team drafts, 364 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: so late second third, let's just say third ish round 365 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: like Keenan, Alan, Brandon Marshall, Damarius Thomas, Kelvin Benjamin are 366 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: all behind him. Oh see, that's interesting. That's interesting. We 367 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: have some established dudes in there, right, But exactly exactly 368 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: you are you are drafting, certainly on upside and the 369 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: fact that the guy had a thousand yards in his 370 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: rookie season, you know, I mean, even forgetting what Odell 371 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: Beckham and that class did in their rookie season. That's 372 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: what I mean. Cooper had a really good rookie year. 373 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: And I think everybody looks at that Raider offense, the 374 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: writer team as a whole, but especially the offense and 375 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: sees a group that's getting better. I mean everybody saw 376 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: I think flashes from Derek Carr and you saw a 377 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: little bit from a Marie Cooper, and you know Michael 378 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: Crabtree is going to be consistent, and even you know, 379 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: I know Latavius Murray isn't necessarily a fantasy darling, but 380 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: I think people believe that he's good enough to give 381 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: enough balance to that offense. But I just think the 382 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: way that offense is shaping up again. I think I 383 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: do think a Mary Cooper has wide receiver one upside, 384 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: and I think he's going to be one of those 385 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: guys you get fairly early. I mean you pay well, yeah, 386 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna ask you. Would you pay 387 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: a late second round price? Second? Absolutely, absolutely absolutely started 388 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: hesititting there. Absolutely, I started hesitating late second Giller, And uh, well, 389 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: I was just looking too at my Fantasy League dot 390 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: COM's adp um, which is a bunch of a bunch 391 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: of sharps and degenerates right now or do because you 392 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: can do them all year. I mean I say that, 393 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: and well, I think I have like five or six 394 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: of us. And I was just staying to Harmon last night. 395 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: I need to get into another one. But he's going 396 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: with pick. These are twelve team leagues and he's going 397 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: with pick twenty one, so back end of that back 398 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: end of that second round, he's going right after the 399 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: likes of Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, Jordy Nelson, Aljean Jeffrey 400 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: among wide receivers, right before Brandon Cooks, Brandon Marshall, Damarius Thomas, 401 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: and t Y Hilton. See, I I'm okay with that. 402 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: I think I think that's a fine that's a fine 403 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: spot because the upside is there. And I think we 404 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: saw what probably his his NFL floor might be last year, 405 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: which is like the thousand yards and seven touchdown. I 406 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: agree with that. I actually think he's got higher upside. 407 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: I think Keenan Allen this year, I do well. Yeah, 408 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I just think I think I think 409 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about a way more touchdown potential. Uh. And 410 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: I think the yardish could be similar to I really do. 411 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: He Also, he had a foot injury late last year 412 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: that kind of held him back for a few games. 413 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: If he didn't have that, where would he have gone? Yeah, 414 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: could have put up more. And you guys talked about 415 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: in the last episode, uh, talking about Derek Carr being 416 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: possibly a top ten maybe fantasy I think he's a 417 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: fringe top ten guy this year. Yeah, and if he's 418 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: going to improve Cooper's gotta it kind of goes hand 419 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: in hand with Cooper, right. And I think what people 420 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: like to write about about about cooper situation is that 421 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: you look at the offense and there's it's a very 422 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: clear cut tree, right, It's like Cooper and crab Tree 423 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: and not a whole lot else in terms of the 424 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: passing down work. Right. So like I think in terms 425 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: of clarity, I think people feel pretty good about the floor. 426 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: All right. Um, c J. Spiller New Orleans says he 427 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: quote knows he can flourish in the Saints offense. Bro. Look, look, 428 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: I will say this, he has the skill set really 429 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: to flourish in the Saints offense. Now, whether or not 430 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: that I know how you feel, I know how you 431 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: feel about c. J. Spiller, I know how you feel. 432 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: But he does have the skill set really to flourish 433 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: in that offense. I mean, he's got the skills. And 434 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm going back and looking at you know, we should 435 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: just rewack what the exact same things I said, and 436 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: we could just reack that, right, I mean I'm going 437 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: back like he has the potential. I won't say to 438 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: put up because the twenty twelve season was his breakout. 439 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: He had you know what, scrimmage yards. He doesn't count 440 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: as a breakout if you've never had a good year following. 441 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: But he know, the next year he put up eleven 442 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: hundred scrimmage yards he had we only had two touchdowns. 443 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: But I think he has the ability to be another 444 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, thousand yard from scrimmage guy and maybe put 445 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: up four or five touchdowns. And now, I don't know 446 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: if you consider that flourishing, but it's certainly better than 447 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: what he would have given you last year. Way better 448 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: years he is. Let's not forget that. In the football 449 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: community and a football Cognisanti, when C. J. Spiller signed 450 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, everybody was like clapping like perfect I was. 451 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: I was not, And then he got injured and that 452 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: completely fell. And in the article too, he talks about 453 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: how his knee injury was what was slowing him down 454 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: all last year and why they eventually shut him down. 455 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: So I'm just, I just I don't know what his 456 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: role would be if he is fully healthy, because like 457 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: mark Ingram took another step as a pass catcher last year, 458 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: but he would insane last year from the passing. Maybe 459 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: maybe they maybe they don't you know, use mark ingram 460 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: like that as much to keep him, to keep him healthy, 461 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: and they try to get spiller, and like, I'm spiller, 462 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: why do you do this? Look what was his overall 463 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: stats last year? Because somebody looked this up? Because here 464 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: here's the thing man. And also take away remember that 465 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: that overcome, So take that out. Okay, that was against 466 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I believe I think it was against the Cowboys. 467 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: His his overall numbers uh hundred and twelve rushing yards 468 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: on thirty six carries, on uh thirty four catches, two 469 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine receiving yards. You could probably take 470 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: like seventy of them away and a grand total of 471 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Right, Okay, alright, look, okay, I would be 472 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: willing to take a very late. He would not I 473 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: would no, he would not know. He would not like, 474 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: what what are you saying? Like fifteen round? No you're 475 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: not you're not taking it out right before I take 476 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: my kicker and or defense like I would. I'm not 477 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: saying I would guarantee you that I would do, but 478 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: I would look at it. I would look at it 479 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: and say, there's the potential anyone is anyone more bullish? 480 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: You're gonna drop it. You're gonna waste a fourteen fifteenth 481 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: round pick on when you could get a kicker. Then 482 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: I would I would rather have a second defense. Wow, 483 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: that's a second Spiller. Maybe I I'm wanna. I want 484 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: to actually see him do something like in training camp 485 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: and you know, see some sort of vine come out 486 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: where they're like, well, wow, look, I'm like, okay, he's bad. 487 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: Oh the other side of it, as Ingram ever had 488 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: a fully healthy season. No, but but he's not the 489 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: but he's not the between the down, between the tackles guy, 490 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, even if that's what 491 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like the upside for me is just not 492 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: even there because I'm saying, look, uh, if Ingram goes down, 493 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: I don't even think C. J. Spiller becomes the starter. 494 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: It's Tim high Tower. It's Tim Higtower all the way. 495 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, they got like seventeen running 496 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: backs on the right. I mean, somebody's gonna have This 497 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: speaks to how much James co is down on C. J. 498 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: Spiller because knowing how much he dislikes mark Ingram. That's right, 499 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: that's rights, and he still won't give that's right. That 500 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: says a lot. That's right. Uh. Look, I think he's 501 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: going to be involved in the passing passing game. You know, 502 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: it'd be crazy not to at least utilize him. I 503 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: think I really on a sleep believe Daniel Lasco, being 504 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: the athletic freaky is and having the skill set that 505 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: he does, will also be utilized on passing down work, 506 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: which would kill C. J. Spiller's value. But having both 507 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: of those guys together I think also semi limits uh 508 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: mark Ingram. And that's the point that I kind of 509 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: sort of made um in my fantasy disappointments list talking 510 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: about mark Ingram, who I think Mike Fabion has thirteen overall, 511 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, there's no chance in hell I would 512 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: pay uh a early second round price to go get 513 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: mark Ingram, a guy who's I has he ever played 514 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: in a complete season? No. I believe we've established this 515 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: in the podcast numerous times when you yell at mark Ingram. 516 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: By the way, just a quick piece of breaking news here, 517 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: David Hellman, from the staff writer for Dallas Cowboys dot 518 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: Com says, Darren McFadden had surgery on the injury he 519 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: suffered to his elbow two weeks ago. Garrett expects him 520 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: to be out for quote a couple of months. Who 521 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: so there you go? WHOA lock it in for Zeke Elliott? Hello, yep, 522 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: hello Zeke. Apparently he broke his elbow over Memorial Day 523 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: weekend doing who knows, probably doing Darren McFadden probably grilling 524 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: like I don't know, lifting there on the grill. Really, 525 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: all right, that's very interesting. Alright, good news, good stuff. 526 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: Uh well I would I shouldn't say good, but you 527 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: know it's a good stuff for Marcus to break that 528 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: on the podcast. I like it, alright. Remember NFL dot 529 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: com slash Draft Kit to get all your draft kit pieces, 530 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash Fantasy if you want to do 531 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: some mock drafts right now, sign up your leagues out 532 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: of your team, do all that kind of stuff. All right, 533 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: let's talk about deep sleepers. Uh, topic that is near 534 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: and dear to my heart, near and dear to your heart. 535 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: Who on this list do you want me to talk 536 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: about this? Well? Can I sip on some yarns on? Yeah? 537 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: Can I see this? We need to graduate camar Aken now, 538 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: so he's no learn deep sleep. He's still there. Yeah, 539 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: he's just a sleeper. Now he's got to graduate to 540 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: sleeper status. No, no, not, Kamar, I think so, um, 541 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: I do want to I do want to say this. 542 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: I feel like we've given uh DeAndre Washington a lot 543 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: of burn on this show. But Alex Gillhard give it 544 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: to me again. DeAndre Washington, Texas Tech running back, little 545 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: guy five eight, I don't know, like two hundred pounds, 546 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: two hundred five pounds, uh drafted by Oakland in the 547 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: later rounds. Tell me why you believe he is a 548 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: nice deep sleep. Well, they need help in the passing 549 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: game out of the backfield. They threw a ton of 550 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: targets at Latavius Murray and their fullbacks last year and 551 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: none of them were effective at all with those targets. 552 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: Gander Washington is a shifty guy. He's smaller, he's got 553 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: some speed, and they like what he offers between the 554 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: tackles too. So I think he'll at least he'll at 555 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: least mix in as that pass catching compliment and maybe 556 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: he turns into a theoretic type where in PPR leagues 557 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: he has some value or you know, if the running 558 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: backs start falling apart like they did last year, and 559 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,239 Speaker 1: you need a you need a flex guy. You can 560 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: grab him in a game that might be might have 561 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: a path heavy game script or be a shootout for 562 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens um and he's also he's also a good 563 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: handcuff like Latavia's. Latavia's Murray got a ton of work 564 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: last year, like all their carries and targets a ridiculous amount. 565 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: And despite all that, like he he finished the r time, 566 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: but you look at his numbers across the board and 567 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: you're like, man, he got all that work and that's 568 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: all he produced on. So there's there's a chance that 569 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: somebody like Washington comes in and and gets a number 570 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: of opportunities in this offense and could do something with them. 571 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: When you guys watched Oakland game, didn't you always just 572 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: get the feeling that that Latavius Murray was pacing himself. Yeah, 573 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: kind of. And when I would watch them and looking 574 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: back on him, always like I'm like, how did he 575 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: get to a thousand yards? Uh? Yeah, It's it's interesting, 576 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: especially for a big athletic freak like Latavius Murray. He 577 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: just never broke one off, like we saw him do 578 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: in the previous season. I just watched him and I 579 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: just kind of felt like he was a yeah, just 580 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: kind of sort of pacing himself. I don't know. Maybe 581 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: it was a coaching staff saying, hey man, slow your 582 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: game down a little bit, um, or maybe it was 583 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: just he himself saying, hey, look, I got a shoulder 584 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: thirty carries a game, or whatever it might be. I'm 585 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna have thirty touches this game. I gotta save myself. 586 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: You had three seven touches last year. I mean that's 587 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: an insane workload for a young guy like that. Um yeah, DeAndre, 588 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 1: you know it's He's an interesting play at least as 589 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: a good handcuff PPR play. Deep sleep I love it. 590 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: I love him as a deep sleeper. I love him 591 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: as deep beautiful um Zach zenter Zack Center. We mentioned 592 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: him a little bit, the second time he's been mentioned 593 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: on I just love it. Like to double to double 594 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: down on what we were talking about before is and 595 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: these are deep sleepers like I didn't want to go with. 596 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: Just like guys that everybody knows or that that have 597 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: been getting a lot of hypes. So I was trying 598 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: to uncover some guys who you could scoop up at 599 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: the very very end of your draft that come out 600 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: some potential. And like we said, with a Mere Abdullah 601 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: coming back from offseasons solder surgery, we don't know yet 602 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: how he's gonna return, but we've seen in the past 603 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: some running backs are a little more hesitant or kind 604 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: of struggle. They don't trust it right away because that 605 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: should you know what, they absorbable a lot of contact 606 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: on and after it just got fixed, they might not 607 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: be in for it. Zenter is a bigger guy. He 608 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: racked up a ton of yards in college with South 609 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: Dakota State, over two thousand yards in three straight years 610 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: on the ground he piled up, so he's he's an 611 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: athletic guy. Draft Twitter and metrics Twitter loved him when 612 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: he came out last year as a U d f A, 613 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: so he could be that guy. Like they ran the committee, 614 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, pretty kind of effectively last year. But Zenner 615 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: would be an upgrade over what joy Bell did last year. 616 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 1: He'd be a faster, strike, more athletic version. And like 617 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: I said, this kind of hinges on a mirror's injury. 618 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: But Zenner could be getting into the mix more and 619 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: more as as the bigger power back there. Okay, um, 620 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: and of course you know I'm gonna ask you about 621 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: your boy double j Jannie Jeff Channis. I'm surprised we 622 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: didn't start there. Yeah, I threw him in again, wasn't 623 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: what the hell? Like, what the hell? I mean? Everybody 624 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: saw what what he could be capable of in that 625 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: NFC divisional round. Like, he's got size, he's got speed. 626 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: He ma to Patrick Peterson in the end zone on 627 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: a game tying hail Mary. Yeah, he's still raw. He 628 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: still needs to get better at running routes. And Aaron 629 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: Rodgers hasn't like added any fuel to the hype train 630 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: this offseason. Is all the Beat reporters love asking about 631 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: Jeff Janis and Rogers like, yeah, he's got a lot 632 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: of work to do, but if you know the time, 633 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: Montgomery is still coming off an injury, Davante Adams was 634 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: bad last year. If Jeff Jenny starts getting mixed in, 635 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: he could be a great target in bestball leagues like 636 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: MFL MFL tens, where you you don't need him to 637 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: produce week after week after week, but when he does 638 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: potentially have a hundred and forty yard two touchdown explosion 639 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: game boom, you got him there you go? Uh Markus 640 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: Grant and want of this list you like? Um, you know, 641 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm kind of keeping an eye on Jeric McKinnon because 642 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: I liked what I saw from him last year. And 643 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: one of the things I noticed last year with the 644 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: Vikings is that they used him as a third down back. 645 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: And we all know who's ahead of him in line 646 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: there in the Vikings backfield, and um, you know, speaking 647 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: of the franchise at the beginning, saying he was in 648 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: the best shape of his life. I've seen that story 649 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: about Peterson now too. Um. But I just does ap 650 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: ever get out of shape? I don't think so. I 651 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: don't think. I'm pretty sure he came out of the 652 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 1: womb just Jack. I mean, you know, maybe he has 653 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: a week in the off season where he doesn't work 654 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: out and eats a hamburger or something like I don't know, 655 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: like a big family barbecue or like I just go 656 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: in hand this weekend. See. The thing is, with a 657 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: p I could see that dude eating like crap just 658 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: all day every day. But he just as a freak, 659 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: you know what. I want to throw it about McKinnon 660 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: here is. I think he's one of a few handcuff backs. 661 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: And I was talking about this on Twitter a little 662 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: bit with Sigmund Bloom and a couple of the people 663 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: that have like league winning upside as handcuffs if things 664 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: go poorly to the guy ahead of him, like Jerick McKinnon, 665 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: Carlos Williams, and I might even throw James James Starks 666 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: into that mix if like Eddie Lacey were to go 667 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: down or struggle again, guys in good offenses that would 668 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: be able to get up a size of a workload 669 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: and our talented people, you know, players and in their 670 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: own right like that's that's a good situation. So McKinnon 671 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: is a guy that I'll probably be skipping up a lot. 672 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: And as I as I noted in the piece, which 673 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: again you can read an NFL dot Com slash draft kit, uh, 674 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: Peterson kind of wore down over the year because he 675 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: got such a heavy workload and that offense relied on 676 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: him so much. In the first nine games he averaged 677 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: just shy of five yards to carry, but over the 678 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: last eight, including the playoffs, he averaged just three point 679 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: six seven yards per carry. So if they sprinkle sprinkling 680 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: McKinnon a little bit more. Peterson's gonna be thirty one. 681 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: Like you know, even if they just give McKinnon a 682 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: series here or there or do more passing down work, 683 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: he could be like a Giovanni Bernard type role, you 684 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: know when he was a rookie and get a decent 685 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: amount of total yards and a few touchdowns. You Know 686 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: what I really like about it, too, is the fact 687 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: that this is what now, his third year in the NFL. 688 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: He's a converted quarterback out of Southern I believe, um, 689 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: his measurables are through the roof. He is a spark god. 690 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: Which is that athletic metric that Nike uses. He was 691 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: at an insane score on it. He is an athletic monster. Um. 692 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: I really truly, honestly believe going into his third season. Now, 693 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's his fourth season, but I think, um, he's 694 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: learning the game, he's learning the position, and he's learning 695 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: behind one of the best running backs of all time, 696 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Gil Hard. This guy could be an 697 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: absolute game changer. Uh, should Ap sit out a game 698 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: or two or whatever it might be. Um, I know, 699 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: I know the folks out there who played casually are 700 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, what about that matt Asiotta guy. Now no, 701 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: um and again I get it. I get it. Look, 702 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: when Ap didn't play matt Asie Hatta stepped in and 703 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: he had himself a couple of splash games. I get it. 704 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: McKinnon was the much better player those in that that 705 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: span though, But uha just had the stupid couple ofdown games. Touchdown, 706 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: he had two different three touchdown games. Like McKinnon would 707 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: look great, move them all the way down there and 708 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: be like, all right, kid, get out asiatical all in 709 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: the end zone. I also found on vikings dot Com 710 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: Peterson was talking about working on his route route running 711 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: abilities this offseason. He wants to get better at that 712 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: because I think he struggled with that last year. Um, 713 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: it's right, And he was talking up McKinnon and said, 714 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: we have we have this young guy. He's a pro 715 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: athlete and he does a great job when it comes 716 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: to to providing that scat back for us. So, um, 717 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, Peterson's working on He might be the biggest 718 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: strongest scaton back in the history of the world. He 719 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: is huge. Peterson's working on his receiving game, but I 720 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: think he recognizes the skill that McKinnon has it kind 721 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: of leads into an Atrian Peterson discussion, right, because where's 722 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: ap going right now? Somewhere in the top five. Yeah, 723 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: A lot of folks feel very confident about a p UM. 724 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, you kind of look at the age and 725 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: the workload. I think there are a lot of folks 726 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: who are a little bit hesitant about a p UM, 727 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: and yet they're then there are those people who are like, 728 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: you don't want forget it, man, the guy is an 729 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: absolute terminator. He's a cyborg. I'm investing, I don't care. Yeah, yeah, look, 730 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: I I mean I get that logic. Obviously. The dude 731 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: blew out his knee, came back, yeah, and then records 732 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: set records basically. Um, so I totally understand that. But 733 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: there is something that's just nagging with me when I 734 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: look at him and just saying, like, you know, I mean, 735 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: I quote outcasts all the time. Even the sun goes down, 736 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 1: heroes eventually die. I mean, at some point, at some point, 737 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: even you know, even Arnold Schwarzenegger and T two got 738 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: dipped in a vata lava and this was kind of 739 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: a rap. So I you know, look, I I would 740 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: certainly still spend a first round pig on age, of course, 741 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: but of course I would make sure that I come 742 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: around and get McKinnon as a handcuff. The other thing, 743 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: I think people were worried about his Minnesota's production on offense, 744 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: like they're I think they'll be better this year. No, 745 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: I mean they might be, but last year they were 746 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: not great. They're they're passing offense, didn't have a ton 747 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: of volume, Yeah, which you know. But Teddy Bridgewater now 748 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: is going to be in his third year, he finally 749 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: has a number one wide receiver in the quand treadwell. 750 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: It could it could swing up all right? Um, can 751 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: I give a little shout out to Tyrod before we 752 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: move on? Here? Thy god? Taylor a favorite of the stronghold. 753 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: Um we we all loved him last year and he 754 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: was a great pick up playing DFS a lot because 755 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: he had he came at such a value. However, I 756 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: think people are discounting how well he actually played last year, 757 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: especially from a fantasy standpoint. So from weeks one through 758 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: four he was the fourth highest scoring quarterback in the 759 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: entire league in fantasy. Uh. And then he got injured. 760 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: And then when he came back in week nine. From 761 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: Week nine to seventeen, he was the ninth highest scoring 762 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: quarterback in all of Fantasy. So you look at that 763 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: with that small gap removed, even if he played mediocrely, 764 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: he would have finished as probably around a QB one 765 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: based on those scores. His legs and his rushing combility 766 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: gives him a safe week to week floor because I 767 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: think he had nine games with over forty rushing yards 768 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: and with Sammy Watkins. I mean, hopefully he comes back 769 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: healthy taking another step when those those two were on 770 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: fire down the stretch last year. Tyrod could be a 771 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: guy that you could honestly draft in one of your 772 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: last rounds and probably get quarterback one production out of him. 773 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: I agree, I absolutely agree. I think Tyrod Taylor and 774 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: Eli Manning are those two guys, um that I'm really 775 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: looking at in those double digit rounds and saying, Okay, 776 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: give me one of those guys, or give me both 777 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: of those guys. As a matter of fact, I'll take 778 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: both of them. Um. All right, let's talk about red 779 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: zone analysis. What does it mean? What did you find out? 780 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: Alex gillhun Well, what I wanted to do was just 781 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: take a look at what people have done in the 782 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: red zone recently, if there was any sort of correlation 783 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: to teams being more efficient in the red zone converting 784 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: more of their plays into touchdowns and having a higher scoring, 785 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: which I mean there was. It wasn't like a complete, 786 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: you know, perfect linear correlation, but teams that were more 787 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: efficient in the red zone did score. But it was interesting, 788 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: was just kind of looking at the divvying up of 789 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: the touches and which teams were more effective. So one 790 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: one trend that was not surprising to anybody also was 791 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: that a good quarterback helps his team be a lot 792 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: more efficient in the red zone. Like the Cardinals. What 793 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: was crazy was you looked at him, Carson Palmer was out. 794 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: They only converted fourteen percent of their red zone plays 795 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: into touchdowns. That number jumped to over last year. Larry 796 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald led the way. He had a lot of targets, 797 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: but John Brown was the second most targeted guy in 798 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: the red zone, which was kind of un surprising. Yeah, 799 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: over Michael Floyd. Michael Floyd was more it was more 800 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: of the deep threat for them last year than John Brown. Um, 801 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: but I like, I like both of those guys this year. 802 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: Over Larry Fitzgerald, I think a lot of his his 803 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: early season production was predicated on some of those red 804 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: zone looks, and I think the other two could start 805 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: could start stealing some of those. Um, it's some some 806 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: teams were super easy to figure out. This article right 807 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: now is on NFL the com slash Fantasy. You guys 808 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: can check it out and I just did NFC yesterday. 809 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: A f C will be out today Tuesday, and then 810 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: you guys can take a look. But so you know, 811 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: like Atlanta surprising no one. Basically all of their red 812 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: zone touches went to Julio Jones and DeVonta Freeman. So 813 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: that was a pretty easy situation to figure out. What 814 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: was surprise using for you that Detroit actually had the 815 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: highest touchdown percentage in the red zone among all NFL 816 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: teams last year. Is that right? And that once Jim 817 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: Bob Cooter took over from Week eight to seventeen, they 818 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: converted a ridiculous of the red zone plays into touchdowns. WHOA, 819 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: that's insane. Yes, So they that was quite surprising. Um, 820 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: And now the question is can they can? I mean, 821 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: remaining that efficient is probably never going to happen. The 822 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: league average over the last four years was about twenty 823 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: point five percent or so, but they're gonna they don't 824 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: have Megatron anymore. So, like who's going to take up 825 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: though that role? Is Eric Ebron gonna take a step? 826 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: Is Marvin Jones gonna be able to be that guy? 827 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Golden Tate is good, is good in the 828 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: red zone because of a short airy quickness. But that'll 829 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: be that'll be an interesting one to see a well. Uh, 830 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: the Rams were a surprisingly effective team, but I think 831 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: that was just largely because Todd Gurley was there and 832 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: he got into the end zone. He got it in 833 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: the end zone on over a third of his red 834 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: zone carries, so that helped them even it out. And 835 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: one interesting team to We kind of mentioned this a 836 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: little bit earlier when we're talking about the Vikings. Is 837 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,479 Speaker 1: the presence of the Kwan treadwell there now because Kyle 838 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph was their lead red zone threat last year 839 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: and he only that's not good. He had ted targets 840 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: there and he only turned three of them into Marcus 841 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: has an awesome nickname for him. Yeah, I think that 842 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: nickname is going out the window. Though the red zone Reindeer, 843 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: the red red zone range just I don't think it 844 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 1: applies quite as much. Any might be the greatest nickname 845 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: in the history of sports. Rudolph the Red might be. 846 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: That's that's high praise. It might be. Um, But yeah, no, 847 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm not a big North Turner guy. Um. 848 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: You know, never if you've made that clear on this podcast, 849 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: it makes no sense We're still talking about the Dallas 850 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys from the nineties. Makes no sense. The game has changed. 851 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: Let's let's move on. North Turner's not a good oski. Um. 852 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 1: But again, you know you think about just the development 853 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, Laquantradwell digs a p is there. We talked 854 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: about Jerick McKinnon. I don't know. To me, doesn't it 855 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: seem like they got the pieces on offense to move 856 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: that ball? Yes, I think they do. They're not gonna 857 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: be a prolific offense, but I think there will be 858 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: some fantasy points to be had and their offense could 859 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: take a little bit of a step from from last year. Um, 860 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: from a fantasy perspective, UM, give me a player that 861 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: in your red zone analysis that you said, you know what, Man, Now, 862 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm thinking about who, uh Well, 863 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: I like Mike. It made me feel even a little 864 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: better about somebody like Mike Evans. To uh, last year, 865 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: he had fourteen targets. He only turned two of them 866 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: into touchdowns, which is not great, but that year feels 867 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: like an anomaly for him. He converted about half his 868 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: red zone looks into touchdowns the year before. I think 869 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 1: that sounds about right, and he and he and Winston 870 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: spent time this offseason working on the report. You know, 871 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback Evans kind of was injured to start the 872 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: year heads strings, so he's a guy that's going to 873 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: command a lot of looks like Vince and Jackson. I 874 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: think had thirteen in the red zone last year as well, 875 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: and also only converted like two three of them into touchdowns, 876 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: so more of those could go Mike Evans way as 877 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: he and Winston build up their young quarterback wide receiver report. 878 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: I don't mind it, man, I I think I feel 879 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: like Mike Evans is kind of lift the forgotten good 880 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Yes, oh, and Jordan Reid probably surprising nobody 881 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: just got absolutely pummeled by Kirk Cousins in the red 882 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: zone and they were super effective together. Kirk Cousins through 883 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 1: passes to Jordan read in the red zone. He turned 884 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: ton of them into touchdowns. Over under Jordan read, uh 885 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: ten and a half games over over, over over over, 886 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 1: so confident because they're so cough. But it was interesting 887 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: to note to like and this showed up with the 888 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: Redskins when they got more stable play from Kirk Cousins 889 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars, which we'll see in today's piece with 890 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, is that their touchdown percentage jumped a bunch, 891 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: which helped um help their overall scoring output two. So 892 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: it's just worth noting when you're looking And like I 893 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: said in the in the lead to this article, this 894 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: is just a small piece of the puzzle. Obviously it 895 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't be the end all beyond. Oh well, Jordan read 896 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: got twenty one targets in the red zone, like thereby 897 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 1: tight end number one. But it's just when you're looking 898 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: at guys, you're trying to figure out, like, hey, what 899 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: what might they're scoring potential? Be sure there's a snapshot. 900 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: I took the number of plays passing and rushing over 901 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: the last four years. And but it's like you said, 902 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean, who would have thought Detroit Detroit exactly? That's 903 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: the first day what I said to the fishing in 904 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: the red zone. Yeah, so that's great. All right, let's 905 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: do daily depths get at here, let's do it definitely depth. 906 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: Does that bear up? Depths depths daily Depp time, Marcus Grant, 907 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,439 Speaker 1: what you got, I'm gonna do that. Well. First off, 908 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I should almost anti dap you, James 909 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: cou you know, on this show and you basically let's 910 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: hand it an NBA title to the Golden State warys 911 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: and I tried to pump the breaks. I tried to 912 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: be rational about it. Let's Warriors and seven. Calm down, 913 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: It's fine. I originally predicted them in six, so I'm 914 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: not you know, I'm not in panic mode here. I 915 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: think I think they're gonna drop that game in game six, 916 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: just so they could sail Burton front of their Homepap. Yeah, 917 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really want that. I don't need 918 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: that kind of stress. But you know, like, I feel 919 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: like you have something to do with why we are 920 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: as right now. So you're well, I wasn't the guy 921 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: that that the that went full Draymond Lebron, but it 922 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: was your it was your vibe. I think that made 923 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 1: this happen. So there's an anti DAP but my real, 924 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: my real daily DAP UM goes out to Robert Rodriguez 925 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 1: and the l Ray Network. It's a TV network he 926 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: started a few years ago. I was the guy who 927 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: movie director started his career with El Mariachi from Dust 928 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: Till Don Desperado Kids, Spy Kids. You can't forget that. Um, 929 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: the Spike Kids. What trilogy I think it is? I 930 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: I already even know. They made a lot of this 931 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: very successful, like very successful. But he's also started a 932 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: TV network, the l Ray Network, which some people have 933 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: on cable. I've actually have Sling TV, and um, have 934 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: you got Hipster TV? I do have Hipster TV. But 935 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: I love it because it's all the cheesy TV shows 936 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: and movies that I love. I mean, they'll have whole 937 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: days dedicated to kung food. Has been a lot of 938 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: Bruce Lee this month. Um, I think they're doing for 939 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: fourth thing? Are you watching basketball? Are you going to 940 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: the bars or something? Well? I mean ABC is available 941 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: freely on TV over the network over the air. I'm 942 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: not copying over the air at the old Rabbity ears 943 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: Man watched the Big Three. But yeah, so like a 944 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: lot of Bruce Lee this month, I think the fourth 945 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: of July they're doing a a Godzilla marathon. But then 946 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: they also have like old TV shows like night Rider 947 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: in Miami, Vice and air Wolf. I haven't seen air 948 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, year Wolf done done exactly, the helicopter 949 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: with a great theme song. Um. But yeah, I've kind 950 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: of fallen in love with l right networks. Like if 951 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm not watching anything sports related, chances are that's kind 952 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: of what I'm watching right now. You're such an old man, 953 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,760 Speaker 1: I am. You're watching of air Wolf, hey man, especially 954 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 1: ultimate Hipster Television cable and watching hipster shows. I'm sitting 955 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: there folding laundry a Wolf, yeah, man, um, Michael Vincent, 956 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: you know it's it's funny, like I've been to a 957 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: couple of hipster parties and like that's what it is. 958 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: It's so it's like, you know, you go and people 959 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: got copper mugs full of whatever, um and playing in 960 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: the background are like these old shows like air Wolf, 961 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, and there's no sound because you know, 962 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: they still have to play E d M music, but um, 963 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 1: there's no sound. You're here in the E d M. 964 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: But you're like, is that wait, is that that is 965 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 1: that's air Wolf. That's what it's like at Marcus Grant's house. 966 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: Pretty much minus the D, minus the E. D m 967 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: are there at least copper mugs. Uh you know what, 968 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: I used to have copper monks. I don't anymore. You 969 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: you've graduated, Mason Jars. That was almost almost. Oh, I'm sorry. 970 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Matt Harmon is not here, so I know 971 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: that that was a little bit confusing there. That's okay, um, 972 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: franchise al right with the Daily DApp. I'm gonna I 973 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: got to today my first one. I grew up playing 974 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: hockey and I can't ignore that the Penguins won the 975 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 1: Stanley Cup the other night. That's not a Penguins fan. 976 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,479 Speaker 1: I'm just a hockey fan. I'm a Rangers fan. I'm 977 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: from New York, but I am a hockey fan. And 978 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm confused. You're a Steelers guy, right, correct, as a 979 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: Cordel because of Cordel Stewart. Right. He loves back in 980 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: the day, right, right. Anyway, I'm giving depths to the 981 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: Penguins for winning the Cup. I actually got to touch 982 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup when I was like ten years old, 983 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: when the Devil's won. I was pretty cool picture was 984 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: me and my dad. It's pretty cool. So depths to 985 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: the Penguins. Um My other depths is to the Red 986 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 1: Hot Chili Peppers, who have a new album coming out 987 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: at the end of this week. How do they really 988 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 1: it's there? Yeah, it's their first album since two thousand eleven. 989 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 1: It's called The Getaway and it's produced by Danger Mouse, 990 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: which makes me awome some amazing stuff. So, who's who 991 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: was on the axe form now because Freshiani's gone right, Yeah, 992 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 1: some it's the same guy that was on the last album. 993 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm just not sure of his name. He's like one 994 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: of Frashanti's boys. Josh Klinghoffer. Josh Klinghoffer, All right, check 995 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: that out. Yes, And so do you have a good 996 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 1: story for us yet or do we have to win 997 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: until next week's pot. You're gonna have to wait. Okay, 998 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: I'll give you a story. I'll give you a story. 999 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,760 Speaker 1: It's not really a story, it's just like something I discovered. Listen. 1000 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: I started following Antonio Brown on Snapchat during the off season, 1001 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: and he was in l a lot for because he 1002 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: was on Dancing with the Stars, as you guys may 1003 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: be aware, So he was always working out at I 1004 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: think a on the U c l A campus. Don't 1005 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: tell me the tighter you that was, no, no, no, 1006 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,919 Speaker 1: I'm a. I'm like watching his snapchats, watching him work out. 1007 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta go stalk this guy. He's a 1008 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: great follow on Snapchat. And I've discovered like following celebrities 1009 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: on Snapchat. I'm an old guy, you know, snapchats for 1010 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 1: the kids. So this is something I discovered and I'm 1011 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: getting more pumped and I'm I'm my man crushes only 1012 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,399 Speaker 1: growing larger for and maybe that's interesting. I love this guy. 1013 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: I just got on Snapchat. Um, I think two days ago. 1014 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: I just started my account, and it's mostly because, first 1015 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: of all, I'm the worst follow on Instagram. You can 1016 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 1: follow me if you want, James Deco, but I only 1017 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: post pictures of my kid. I don't think it helps 1018 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: anybody in the fantasy community, although when the season starts, 1019 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: I'll post my DFS lineups and and all that kind 1020 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: of good stuff. But uh, I started my Snapchat because 1021 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: my kids. I didn't realize they had all these goofy 1022 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: filters on there, and my kid freaking loves it. It's 1023 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: only like a week or two ago that I learned 1024 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: how to use some of those filters, I don't even know. 1025 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: I still don't know how to use snapchats, so I'm 1026 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: still kind of you know, you could find me on 1027 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,879 Speaker 1: this don't know how to use it's an after the kids. 1028 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to use filters here alright, Bro, 1029 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to post on Snapchat yet, 1030 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 1: so I'm still figuring that out. Um. For some reason, 1031 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: I thought Snapchat was for for sexting. I found out 1032 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 1: that that was that's integrat increct. I mean, you know, 1033 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure some people probably do. That's probably, that's probably, 1034 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 1: that's probably That's not what the majority of us use 1035 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: it for. I will give a daily dap out to 1036 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: the u c I grats who graduated this past weekend. 1037 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: Um Um, a friend of mine, my wife's cousin, graduated 1038 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: from business school. There. Uh you see Irvine. You see 1039 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: Irvine went to that graduation yesterday. Go ant eaters zat. 1040 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: So there you go. I also give a daily dap 1041 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: out to my boy here uh Franchito the franchise. His 1042 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: beard has come back stronger than ever, Yes, stronger than best, 1043 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: best shape of my life. His beard game is out 1044 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: of control. Cad Harmon's gonna have to step it up. 1045 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 1: When he returned, dude, are you working in the beard oil? Yes? 1046 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: Of course, Yes, well, of course I am all right. 1047 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 1: There you go, Alex Galhart, wiz kid from Wisconsin. What's up? 1048 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 1: All right? Got a couple of dapths as well. Uh, 1049 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: first one, we'll be going to um Chris Westling for 1050 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: throwing a banger of a barbecue this weekend. Marcus and 1051 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: I were there, Um, lots of beers were drank, we 1052 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: lots of cornhole was played. Uh semi anti adapt Dan 1053 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: hansis for he and I went six and one in cornhole, 1054 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: and then he formed a super team with Chris Westling 1055 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 1: and nobody else I could pull into my team was 1056 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: able to take them down with me. So we had 1057 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 1: a good run, but I felt I felt semi betrayed. 1058 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: I felt like you and I were actually playing okay. 1059 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: But then uh west went on one of his steph 1060 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: Curry like runs. Were just dropping everything in the bucket 1061 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: and there was no coming back from that. So I 1062 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,240 Speaker 1: tried with Marcus, I I tried with Ali Ali Bun Purry. 1063 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: Uh no, not nothing could take it down. But thanks 1064 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 1: to West for for hosting a nice, nice barbecue with 1065 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: some delicious ribs. And then daily adapts too. I've I've 1066 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: done this video game a few times before, but uh, 1067 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: Dota two is one of the like top e sports 1068 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: games right now, and there was a major tournament this 1069 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: past weekend in Manila in the Philippines and o G 1070 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: the team became the first team to win two of 1071 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: the major events in Dota two. So data adapts to them, 1072 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 1: and it's kind of cool because in the in then 1073 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: the sport, like a lot of people are swap teams 1074 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: all the times and there's lots of shuffling. But these 1075 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: guys have been together for over a year now and 1076 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: they're kind of an upstart and they've got some momentum 1077 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: heading into the big one in this August, so it'll 1078 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: be kind of fun to watch and see how they do. 1079 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: So Daily depths to them and to like Twitch and 1080 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: the production value on these like the sport things. I'm 1081 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: just kind of curious to watch. It too. Is getting 1082 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: It's insane. Yeah, it's getting really like it's it's incredible, 1083 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: like this stuff, the stuff they're doing now, even just 1084 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 1: from a broadcast like technical future standpoint, is They've got 1085 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: a long way to go, but they have, they have, 1086 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: they're growing leaps in bed. This this last tournament was 1087 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: was really cool. They took some big steps. But yeah, 1088 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,240 Speaker 1: it's it's been fun to watch. It's on Dota too. Uh. 1089 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: Valve made the game the same people that made like 1090 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: Half Life and stuff. Um, and it was a it 1091 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: was a warcraft, uh spinoff kind of thing that some 1092 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: people made. Alright, cool. Oh yeah, that should do it. 1093 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That's our show NFL dot 1094 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: Com Slash Draft. Can't be sure to check it out 1095 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: for the wisket from Wisconsin. MGM my got Marcus Grant 1096 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 1: and the franchise Matt Francisco. Welcome back, James go, We're out. 1097 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: Don't go, don't m