1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, April seventh, and the artist 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: formerly known as Kanye West cannot go to London. Why 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: because his presence would not be conducive to the public good. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: tj Ya just got banned in London. He no, your music, 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: your show is not welcome here. 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got banned from the entire United Kingdom. Let's 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: be more specific here, and yes, to be told that 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 2: you cannot enter our country stay out, Yes, because you 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: aren't good for the country. 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: That the statement that they put out is borderline unbelievable 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: that they have banned a person from the country. Again, Rose, 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: this has been bubbling for the last couple of years. 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: Couple of Yeah, it has been years. But actually yes, 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: in particular on this festival, I was not familiar with 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: the Wireless Festival that happens this summer in London, but 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: it is an enormous hip hop and black culture festival 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: that they thought it was a good idea to have 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Kanye West headline. 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: Look, I think perhaps I can't get into their head, 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: but we don't even have to because they did release 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: a statement. But look, we know that Kanye has been 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: on a bit of an apology tour and has been 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: giving explanations as to why he has made so many 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: anti Semitic comments as far when, as far as trying 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: to sell I Am a Nazi t shirt on his website. 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: So there's just no question that he has behaved appallingly. 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: Don't forget the Yle Hitler song. 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: Oh, the Heil Hitler song? How could I forget that? 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: It's it's that goes without saying. It's all been known, 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: it's been out there, and he has been trying to 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: say he's sorry. So I can understand why perhaps this 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: major music festival thinks we get Yay to headline, We're 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: gonna go like our tickets are going to go through 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: the roof, And by all accounts they did pre sale 36 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: opened today and sold out, and tomorrow they were opening 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: it up for general audience and it too was expected 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: to sell out quickly because everyone wants to see Yay. 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: It's been a while and in backfired. 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: When did he do the show in La? This was 41 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: maybe days ago, if at most it was last week, 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: But he had a comeback show. 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: Out there in LA. 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Sold out the show and you have some big name 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: artists even come be a part of it. Okay, knock 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: yourself out. This is a part of his tour or 47 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: his comeback tour, if you will. Here comes the Wireless 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: Festival and you first, Diagio dropped out, the alcohol company 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: sponsor dropped out, Pepsi dropped out, is a major sponsor. Now, 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: when I heard Pepsi, ooh, that's big money. What I 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: thought was going to happen roll is that the Wireless 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: Festival would say, you know what, we change our minds. 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: We've heard you, We're not going to have him come. 54 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: I thought that was going to happen. 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: The wireless folks were desperate for you to headline. That 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: didn't scare them, and so they refused to remove him 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: from the lineup and certainly remove him from being a headliner. 58 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: And yeah, so it fell in the hands or in 59 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: the lap, so to speak, of the government. And they're 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 2: the ones who basically decided to step in and prevent 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: Ye from entering the country. Therefore, he cannot perform at 62 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: the Wireless Festival because those folks were totally still fine 63 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: to have him perform. 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: Now the one place I will give the U and 65 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: they did say it. I think we'll have their full 66 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: statement but what do you think about that robes that 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't just decide to put Yay as 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: a headliner. We asked a bunch of people, We we 69 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: got a group together, we asked sponsors, and everybody was 70 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: aware and on board. 71 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: And now you're going to turn on us. That might 72 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: be some truth to it. 73 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: I do agree with that that they were. I mean, 74 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: I would think they would have had to have had 75 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: conversations with folks knowing how controversial he is, so it 76 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: would seem almost impossible. Yes, that the Wireless Festival committee chairs, 77 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: who I don't know how their organization is laid out, 78 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: but the people who make the decisions, I can't imagine 79 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: they didn't consult folks first because they know obviously the controversy. 80 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: And there are just some things that it's very hard 81 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: to take back. It's very hard to say I'm sorry 82 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: for and just move on from. And being anti Semitic 83 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: is one of them. 84 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that goes beyond you know what. 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: It's one thing that people have had some racist things 86 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: they say about Jewish folks, anti Semitic. You could argue 87 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: Hyle Hitler was the name of the song. That's even 88 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: beyond anti Semitic to a certain degree. It's not just 89 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't like Jews. I am with the guy who 90 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: hated Jews most in the history of the world. 91 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't just become anti he became like the 92 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: king of anti Semitism. He was like the top dog 93 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: of all anti Semitics, because, yeah, when he does something, 94 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: he doesn't do anything half assed, including being anti Semitic. 95 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 3: And he didn't shy away. 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean he like double tripled and all this down 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: on all this stuff he was doing. 98 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: He stood by it. 99 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: Okay, now you wrote the festival, you said they you know, 100 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: they talk to other people. But what often happens with 101 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: politicians and corporations which way is the wind going to blow? 102 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: And once backlash started that they were not going to 103 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: be able to survive. 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: We've seen this happen in our personal lives as well. 105 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: Once someone says something, then other people start piling on. 106 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: Then the folks who were making decisions start yes, looking 107 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: to see which way the wind is blowing, and they 108 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 2: go with what they feel is the safest option. 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: Now we shouldn't lump ourselves and say. 110 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no. I didn't mean to, but yeah, to. 111 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: That point, we do have that experience. But we'll get 112 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: into this in the in the later one. But I 113 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: think I don't know was it Starmer when the Prime 114 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Minister started talking this was that elevated it even I 115 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: think the first time I was aware of you know 116 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: what it was? It was Pepsi and Starmer. Those two 117 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: big names are the thing. They put this on the 118 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: radar for me. 119 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: Yes, so Starmer went on X. He had said that 120 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: the decision for Wes to headline, he called it deeply concerning. 121 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: And then when they made the decision to deny his 122 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: entrance into the UK, Starmer put this out on X. 123 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: This government stands firmly with the Jewish community and we 124 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: will not stop in our fight to confront and defeat 125 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: the poison of anti Semitism. We will always take the 126 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 2: action necessary to protect the public and uphold our values, 127 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: which is. 128 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: Including putting an all time great rapper from the South 129 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: Side of Chicago, banning him from our country. That is 130 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: how you fight anti Semitism. That sounds wild that How 131 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: is the sun kid from Chicago all of a sudden 132 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: you can't even go to the UK? 133 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? Though? Because this does 134 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: create I understand the outrage and the offense taken by 135 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: the Jewish community. That is understandable in all caps and underlined. 136 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: But there is still a question there as to how 137 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: a country should react. Should you ban an artist for 138 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: past statements that he has since apologized for, and you 139 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: make the decision that no one in your country can 140 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: hear or watch him perform. I don't know. Do you 141 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: feel like that's a fair like in the world of 142 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: free speech, in the world of democracy, in the world 143 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: of I don't know, even forgiveness. Do you think that 144 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: it makes sense for a country to take a stand 145 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: like that to you cannot like it. You can say 146 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: this isn't for me. This person is a horrible person. 147 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: We don't agree with them, But to ban him completely 148 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: from entering the. 149 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: Country, man, Look, the statement is he would not be 150 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: conducive to the public good. That might be accurate. That 151 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: might be a completely accurate statement. So because no matter 152 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: how much he has said, I'm sorry, Robes, you can't 153 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: control what he does when he gets on that stage. 154 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: That's true. 155 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: This is a guy who has willingly spewed this stuff. 156 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: We don't know, we don't have any assurances, and we 157 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: can't guarantee. This is a guy who has opened his 158 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: mouth for years and spewed something that we here in 159 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: the UK and our proximity to Germany understand this a 160 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: little different, you know what. 161 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: You just put it like that, and that does make 162 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: it a lot more, you know what, You're right. I mean, look, 163 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: I when Ava was my daughter was studying in Berlin, 164 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: she warned me, and I knew it, but it was like, right, 165 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: you cannot say certain words in public. You cannot even 166 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: fly a German flag in Germany because of what Hitler did. 167 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: And you're right, maybe we are geographically removed just enough 168 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: where we don't fully understand the history that never leaves. 169 00:08:54,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: Euntes being in Germany. Even the Germans, it's all around 170 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: and a reminder and a recognition of the wrongs that 171 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: took place. 172 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: They're the best, I have to say at making sure 173 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: you don't forget that we don't forget. They have memorials 174 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: and tours and they've left everything up and they take 175 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: people through and they have plaques and they want you 176 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: to know the horrific history that happened in this country 177 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: so it's never repeated again. Yes, I admired how the 178 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: Germans have handled it in modern times. 179 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: That's Europe. And we say modern times, that wasn't that 180 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: terribly long your history? 181 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: Yes? 182 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: Sure, well, Rose, they do not mess around. And you're 183 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: telling me we're going to give this stage. And again 184 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: it's a three day festival and he was the headline 185 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: of the whole time. So it's not like he goes 186 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: on stage one night and gone no, no, no, this 187 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: was nights of Yay mister Hyle Hitler who was selling 188 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: Nazi shirts and whatnot on a website. Let's let him 189 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: have a stage in the UK for three days. How 190 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: do you think that's going to go. And if they 191 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: choose to not have him, if they think it's going 192 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: to cause a ruckets, if it's going to be bad 193 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: for them. This is a tough one, Robes. Free speech. 194 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: You have the right to say what you want to say, 195 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: but you do not have the right to be shielded 196 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: from consequences of your words. And there are consequences, and 197 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: people can choose to have you in their home or 198 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: not have you in their home, to listen to your 199 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: music or not listen to your music. And yeah, a 200 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: government maybe has the right to say you represent something 201 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: that we here in Europe we rejected a long time ago, 202 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: and we don't want a hint of it. 203 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: He's not just their robes. 204 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: Given a speech about this is an enormous honor that 205 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: he's getting, and we're gonna let when was this apology 206 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: the It was in January. 207 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: So in January you all probably remember we absolutely covered 208 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: this that he put out a Wall Street He actually 209 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: placed and paid for a full page Wall Street Journal 210 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: ad and he entitled it to those I've hurt, and 211 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: actually the Wireless Festival circulated it just to kind of 212 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: remind folks. He's been on an apology tour where he 213 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: told folks, yes, I know that I said I had 214 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: bipolar disorder, but actually I was misdiagnosed I have autism. 215 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: And he apologized but also explained perhaps why he behaved 216 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: and acted the way he did, but said he wanted 217 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: to take this time to prove to the world that 218 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: he had changed, that he recognized the error of his ways, 219 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: and that he had a medical condition. Now, a lot 220 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: of folks looked at that and said, Okay, you've got 221 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: new music coming out, so clearly you need people to 222 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: forgive you to purchase and freely. Okay, I said that 223 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: other people did. 224 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: But I remember doing that. I was trying to give 225 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: him say well, i'mna listen to this. You were like, hmm, 226 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: has knew out yet? You called this immediately. 227 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 2: Yes, And it makes sense. He had an incentive to apologize. 228 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: He had an incentive to explain himself in a way 229 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: that he hadn't before because he, yes, has been releasing 230 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,119 Speaker 2: new music. 231 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: Which will take away from the authenticity bracity possibly of 232 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: your apology if people think you're doing it for your 233 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: own as correct. 234 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: Correct. So clearly the Brits were not swayed by his 235 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal ad and even by his recent statements 236 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: trying to convince the folks there in Great Britain that 237 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: he is changed and that he is sorry, and he 238 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: wanted an open dialogue to basically mend or repair some 239 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: of what he created. 240 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: I am, I'm going to do this. We're going to 241 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: take a break and I want to talk to you 242 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: about the ad and if this guy can ever be forgiven. 243 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: But the government did we read their statement? 244 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: Ye, we thought we haven't. This was actually from the 245 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: Wireless Festival festival and then and then we read Stormer's statement, 246 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: and then we have the campaign against anti Semitism. They 247 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: have been really about all of this? Which ones is now? 248 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: Kanye's Kanye? Oh yeah? Oh? Kanye's statement is this. 249 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: Uh? 250 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: He said, my only goal is to come to London 251 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: and present a show of change, bringing unity, peace and 252 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: love through my music. I would be grateful for the 253 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: opportunity to meet with the members of the Jewish community 254 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: in the UK in person to listen. I know words 255 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: aren't enough. I'll have to show change through my actions. 256 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: If you're open, I'm here. 257 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: What was the Jewish community's response to. 258 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: His several there's several available, a lot of things to say. 259 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: Here are the ones that stood out to me. How 260 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: did it come to this? Apparently no concerns were highlighted 261 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: about Kanye West at the time of the booking. Who 262 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: were they consulting a wall That's what happens when the 263 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: only stakeholders you speak to are those who stand to 264 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: make a profit. And then they went on to say, 265 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: after the UK decided to block Yay's admission into the country, 266 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: someone who has boasted of making tens of millions of 267 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: dollars from selling swastika T shirts and who released a 268 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: song called Hyle Hitler just months ago, clearly would not 269 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: be conducive to the public good In the UK, Wireless Festival, 270 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: in its desperate quest for profit, defended the invitation until 271 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: the end. That is shameful and its sponsors should continue 272 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: to stay away. 273 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: You know what, how recently was that Hyle Hitler song? 274 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: Was that recently? 275 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: I actually need to check that because they said just 276 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: months ago. So I'm looking this up right now. 277 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: All right, well, folks, stay with us when we come back, 278 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: we'll have the answer for you. Just how recently that 279 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: Hyle Hitler song was. And also the question can and 280 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: should Kanye ever be forgiven embraced again? Is there any 281 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: coming back from this Nazi stuff he was spewance? 282 00:14:50,000 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: Stay here, Welcome back everyone to Amy and TJ. We 283 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: are talking about Kanye West band from the UK. The 284 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: Wireless Festival canceled a major music event that was scheduled 285 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: to take place July eight through tenth or tenth through twelfth, 286 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: somewhere in mid July. And yeah, it's all gone. The 287 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: ticket sales were already through the roof today. They were 288 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: supposed to go to the general audience tomorrow. All of 289 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: that now has been stopped and the Wireless Festival has 290 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: already told those folks who were sold out in those 291 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: pre sale tickets today that they will be refunded and 292 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: the concert will not go on. We just looked up 293 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: because we were trying to figure out when that Kyle 294 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: Hitler song was released by Yay Yes, technically they were. 295 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: He released it on May eighth, twenty twenty five, so 296 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: that was months ago. Granted it was eleven months ago, 297 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: almost a year ago, but it is still correct to 298 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: say he released it months ago. 299 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: It does not that much distance between then and now. 300 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: It's not that much distance actually between that song being 301 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: released and his statement he put out the ad and 302 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: the forgipos I've hurt in January? He said, right, is it? 303 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: When I read his initial the ad and asking for forgiveness, 304 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: hearing him explain something like I wanted to have a 305 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: sympathetic ear because we've watched him his entire career, come 306 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: out as this genius. He had this car accident and 307 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: then we saw his mom die, and he publicly took 308 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: some kind of a turn and a die to where 309 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: people that were very close to him were publicly saying, 310 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. 311 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian among them, don't know how to help him. 312 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: So I think something genuinely was wrong the other side, Babe, 313 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: that's very easy for somebody to say, and I heard 314 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: the comments. And autism makes you a Nazi. 315 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: The autism thing didn't make a lot of sense to 316 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: me at all. 317 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: You had an injury, had depression, you had all these 318 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: mental health It makes you a Nazi. Depression turns you 319 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: into a Hitler. Love the good question that. But he 320 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: had reasons for sometimes acting out and people explain, I 321 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: don't want to say, explain away. But it didn't make 322 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: sense for this kid from Chicago to all to a 323 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: sudden become a man who embraces Nazism. 324 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: There was a lot of things it didn't make sense. 325 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: He just even his political aspirations, his sudden love of 326 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 2: President Trump. A lot of things were confusing and head stretches. 327 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: So can you ever explain that? Can anything ep Can 328 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: you be forgiven for it? Do you give him any 329 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: grace for it? I don't know, but I am open 330 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: to something genuinely being wrong with him that he tried 331 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: to fix the problem. Robes is timing like it's okay, 332 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: put that thing out in January. Let me see you 333 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: doing community service in February. Let me see you in 334 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: March making a speech somewhere doing do something to build. 335 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: Don't give me that in January and Ropes is barely April. 336 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: He had that festival book. Did he not get or 337 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: knew it was coming? Yes, that just doesn't feel authentic. 338 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: It feels motivated. It feels that the intentions were perhaps 339 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: financial and redemptive and less about actually being apologetic and 340 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: wanting to learn and grow. Now, I thought something. You 341 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: heard the disdain of Yay obviously from the Jewish community, 342 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: but they were very, very upset with Wireless Festival folks period. 343 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: And I'm curious. I want to read the Wireless Festival 344 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: statement as to their announcement that the concert was off, 345 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: because this really set off a lot of folks the 346 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: way they worded it. Words matter. We talk about it 347 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: all the time. The Wireless Festival said this, the Home 348 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: Office has withdrawn Yeay's eta, denying him entry into the 349 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: United Kingdom. As a result, Wireless Festival is canceled and 350 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: refunds will be issued to all ticket holders. Here we go. 351 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 2: As with every Wireless Festival, multiple stakeholders were consulted in 352 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: advance of booking Yea, and no concerns were highlighted at 353 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 2: the time. Sense then they go on to say this 354 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: anti Semitism in all its forms is a warrant, and 355 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: we recognize the real and personal impact these issues have had. 356 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 2: As Yea said today, he acknowledges that words alone are 357 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: not enough, and in spite of this, still hopes to 358 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: be given the opportunity to begin a conversation with the 359 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Jewish community in the UK. 360 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: Is that possible to do? Is that possible? And I 361 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: guess it's maybe up to the Jewish community to say 362 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: that can you ever? And they might say never, never 363 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: forgive or support or in any way endorse you ever. 364 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: And I think that might be understandable, Babe. 365 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: I think it's understandable as well. And I think perhaps 366 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: instead of just let me talk to you, let me 367 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: have a face to face meeting with you, as you 368 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: were saying, why not just do better and make the 369 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: effort and not rely on someone someone else listening to 370 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: you or understanding you, but actually just showing them who 371 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 2: you are, and not for profit necessarily, or not for 372 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: the cameras or not for pr but just to see 373 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 2: him do the work, perhaps behind the scenes. That then 374 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: is taken notice by the folks who he offended and hurt. 375 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: It's all obviously pr and people. There are people, and 376 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: it's all money. But I don't know has he quietly 377 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: reached out begged, will you please anybody have a meeting 378 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: with me from the Jewish community? 379 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: Please? 380 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: I need to talk to somebody. I need help. I 381 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: don't need pr help. I need help and I want 382 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: to reach out and I want to have been sincere about 383 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: where I'm coming from. I don't know if he's done 384 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: that the first time he's offered to meet. 385 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: He should have been. There should have been a steady. 386 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: Stream of meetings leading up to an announcement that he 387 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: was going to be doing that concert. 388 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: He should have had their support. 389 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: They didn't have to come out in public lease support, 390 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: but he should have known behind the scenes that all right, 391 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: do you think we're not going to come out against you, 392 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: but we're not going to come out and support roams. 393 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: This is this is one. 394 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: I don't know the work he's done behind the scenes. 395 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: Maybe he has, and I hope he's getting help, But 396 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: the work he needs to do with the community is 397 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: not work. Actually, we need to be seeing on TV 398 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: or in statements correct. We just hope it's happening. 399 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: We hope it's happening, but at least it seems by 400 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: the very strong reaction by the Jewish community. Look, the 401 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: Jewish community, the Board of Deputies of British Jews, I mean, 402 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: they all banded together condemning the Wireless Festival for choosing 403 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: Kanye West in the first place, and certainly didn't imply 404 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: or even suggest that any conversations had happened. Now we've 405 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: heard the Wireless Festival claiming that the Jewish community organizations 406 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: refuse to even sit down with them or talk to them. 407 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 2: They're denying that. So there's a lot of So the 408 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 2: Wireless Festival said that the Jewish communities refuse to sit 409 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: at the table with them. I actually have a conversation, yes. 410 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: Well, after you announced that the anti semi is really yes, okay, yes. 411 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: And so in fact, they even said it's deeply regrettable 412 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: that the Carless Festival invited him in the first place, 413 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 2: and then doubled down when the Jewish community and our 414 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: allies rejected, and they said that we know that the 415 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: festival has now been canceled, but it should never have 416 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: reached this point. This situation could have and should have 417 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: been resolved much earlier. So yeah, they're like, don't come 418 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 2: and talk to us to convince us why it's okay 419 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: that he's performing. Talk to us beforehand before you announce it, 420 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: and that does make a difference. 421 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: Well, they took a shot, They took a bit, you 422 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: know what, They took a Disney ABC shot and they 423 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: got burned. Right, you knew you shouldn't have gotten Frankie 424 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: Taylor Paul. 425 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, that is kind of no better. 426 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: It was big risk, big reward, and you lost. They 427 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: rolled the dice, didn't work, and it didn't work with 428 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: Kanye West, and people were learning the lesson moving forward. 429 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: Will he ever be embraced on me? 430 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 2: He was in La, and it's different right in La. 431 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: In America, he's one of ours, so we might tend 432 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: to be more forgiving because he's a part of America 433 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: and such a huge part of. 434 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: Our culture and we don't have that connection and we. 435 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: Don't have you know, I didn't even think about the 436 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: proximity to Germany, the proximity to where all of those 437 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: atrocities happen, and certainly the Jewish community there, who still 438 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure have living family members who are directly impacted 439 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 2: by the Nazis he has. 440 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: I didn't see them. 441 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember which country the countries they are, but 442 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: he has other dates that are scheduled in different places 443 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: around Europe. I don't recall anything as big as London, 444 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: but he's got We'll see how those go. 445 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: Now that's fascinating. And you know, I looked up Yay 446 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 2: has not performed in the United Kingdom at all since 447 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, so it has been eleven years since he's 448 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: even performed in that country. And a lot's happened in 449 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: those eleven years in the UK specifically, Yes, in the 450 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: UK specifically, So you know, it is a different mindset 451 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 2: and it's understandable, and they don't have any reason to 452 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: celebrate Yay. It just there is nothing thing about him 453 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: that's not one of ours. 454 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: We don't need to embrace him back. Keep your guy. 455 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: Kind of that's what they're saying. Stay in America. Yeah, 456 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: see what happens. 457 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: And I don't mind that the UK on this one, 458 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: I do not. I get it. 459 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: It makes sense, it makes sense, all right. We just 460 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 2: wanted to hop on and get you all updated on 461 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: the latest controversy. With Kanye West. I'm sure this is 462 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 2: not the end of it. I'm sure we're going I'm 463 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: interested to see if other countries react to the UK's 464 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: decision and if there will be more fallout, but we 465 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: will of course be on top of it. Bring you 466 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: the very latest. Thank you as always for listening to us. 467 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: I'm Amy Robock alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to 468 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: you soon