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Speaker 2: We were actually carrying you all along, Jody, those times

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Speaker 3: Is that like the closest thing to like a Jesus

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Speaker 4: The video, the video is running some weird Jesus clip.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Every time we get on video, it's his week.

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Speaker 2: It's his week. You know that's right.

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Speaker 4: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three eighty four, Episode.

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Speaker 2: Three of Deadly Guy. Yeah, production of iHeartRadio. That's right,

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Speaker 2: I'm back. I'm back baby.

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Speaker 4: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 4: into America's shared consciousness. It is Wednesday, April sixteenth, twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five. That can't be right, Miles, Yeah, it is, Miles,

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Speaker 4: it can't be right.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: I know you're experiencing a severe time dilation via jetlag,

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Speaker 3: but it also is April sixteenth. Shout out all the

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Speaker 3: banana lovers. It's your day, but the tariffs might fuck

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Speaker 3: up the prices. National Banana Day. It's also National bean

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Speaker 3: CPAs out there get they get to relax, as it were,

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Speaker 3: since Tax Day was yesterday, National Orchid Day, National Healthcare

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Speaker 3: Decisions Day, National where your Pajamas to Workday? There it

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Speaker 3: is April sixteenth, fuck man, Oh ex Benedict Day too.

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Speaker 3: If you like X Benigs Benny's.

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Speaker 2: NAT's your day too, baby. That's the only Bennies I

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Speaker 3: And what about the Bennies Oh Benetes, No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: Uh, I guess anyways. My name is Jack O'Brien aka

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Speaker 2: Ma Mar Mar. He's one shitty old white that's a

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Speaker 2: Great White. Wows You ever listen to Great White? Do

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Speaker 2: you remember them? They were probably little before you Wait,

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Speaker 3: That's that's only I'm like, dad, that's the concert.

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Speaker 3: You're like, dude, Now we're talking death metal. That's fucking

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Speaker 1: But also the idea that if you it's only your

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Speaker 2: I was both very temporarily into metal and also into sharks,

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Speaker 2: In reference to the news that just broke that, Bill

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Speaker 2: I come back, hero. Bill Maher says, Donald Trump is

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Speaker 3: I know, well, at least at least the tattoo you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just turned it into a dog and dog. Is

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Speaker 1: That is in your quarter. Put an eggs better in

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Speaker 2: Oh you can eat buffets. Miles. We're thrilled to be

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Speaker 2: joined in our third seat, yes by a podcaster extraordinary

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Speaker 2: French for extraordinary, that's not right. You know him from

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Speaker 2: this Day in Esoteric Political History on Radio Toopia. He's

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Speaker 2: also hosted thirty for thirty on ESPN, the five thirty

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Speaker 2: eight politics podcast. Lead producer on the Puzzler. You know him,

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Speaker 2: you love him, folks, It's Jody E.

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Speaker 4: Regad.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And you know what, Jack, I've

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Speaker 2: Great to have you. Well, we're thrilled to have you. Jody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Jody, what's something you thinks underrated?

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Speaker 1: I think ginger chews are underrated, you know, a ginger chew.

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Speaker 2: They're they're warming, they're good for your stomach. We we

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Speaker 1: This morning, but yeah, orange orange flavor one.

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Speaker 2: Would be on your fire if I didn't have my

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Speaker 1: Now, Lemon flavored ginger chews. So they're making varieties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, combine over. We've got a little citrus ginger

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Speaker 1: I think the Celsius era is over, so I'll be

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Speaker 2: That was just because they were just like, here's a

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Speaker 1: It was four leuco all over again.

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Speaker 3: I don't know now masculinity and crisis perhaps, but.

438
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 2: He'll just switch back. I mean he'll be He'll probably

439
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 2: be and this is a controversial take, billionaire will probably

440
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: be fine. Yeah.

441
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: But do you feel like the vibes have shifted? Am? I? Am?

442
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: I is this wishful thinking of my part?

443
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 3: I mean, I think just from watching I mean I

444
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 3: think just the last few weeks with the tariffs. I

445
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: think it's especially been pronounced because a lot of the influencers,

446
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 3: especially online, who were like, yeah, man.

447
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: It's Trump baby, let's do this.

448
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 3: Because right after the election, everyone got their bump and

449
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 3: their crypto and stuff, and all these mouthpieces that like

450
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: the Dave Portnoy's and the Aiden Rosses of it all

451
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 3: were like, yeah, dude, this is what I'm talking about.

452
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 3: And then then came reality and now all these guys

453
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 3: like what the fuck is going on? And I think

454
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 3: that's that's like that. I think that's like sort of

455
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: the first layer. Then I also think like the tesla

456
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 3: of it all has also brought to the surface, like

457
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: this idea that suddenly now the sort of ideology that

458
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: was screaming about how dumb electronic electric vehicles are are

459
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 3: suddenly like caping for them and being like the Cybertrup's

460
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 3: actually really sick. It's just like you see a lot

461
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: of these, like even comedians online and we're like, dude,

462
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 3: this the truck fucking sucks. It looks stupid, Like why

463
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 3: are people even like pretending so that right?

464
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I feel like that is like now the

465
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: thing that no.

466
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: But like like what it is, like, what is I

467
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: would love to hear what like theovon really feels like

468
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: right now, you know, because that guy, clearly, I think,

469
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: was just like, oh this feels cool. All my friends

470
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: are doing this, let me get on board in the

471
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: last few weeks and sort of shit, And I wonder

472
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: if he's just like what he's just a useful what

473
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: I signed up for?

474
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like a lot of those guys, you

475
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: know that Pete Davidson character on SNL who's just like

476
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: following like the I was like put this on, He's

477
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: like okay, then yeah, okay, just like says okay to

478
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: whatever people are. I feel like that's him. That's like

479
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: Rogan in a lot of cases, like they're just what.

480
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: You put somebody in front of them saying a thing

481
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: and they're like, yeah, yeah, that's interesting, man, that's interesting

482
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 2: because yeah, I was doing some research. Yeah, well yeah.

483
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 3: I think even with THEO Vaughn, like one of his

484
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: recent episodes, I saw a clip from it and they

485
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 3: were talking about the tariffs, and he was just kind

486
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: of like confused.

487
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: He's like, why would they do? I don't get it.

488
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: He's like, isn't this like bad?

489
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: And before I think a lot of these people who

490
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: would just be like, yeah, everything's good, everything's great, this

491
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: is the way to go, they're now they're kind of

492
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: falling into this bucket. Like at best they're like I'm

493
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: I think he knows what he's doing, but like this

494
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense to me. And then you have the

495
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: people who are like fuck all this I'm not I'm

496
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: seeing less and less of like the people fully come

497
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: out at least and from like that Manisphere area that

498
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: got a lot of attention where they're like, you know,

499
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 3: this is it, this is this is the way.

500
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: I did have the question heading into this presidency of

501
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: like how are these people who are like edge lords,

502
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: you know, mega fans going to continue to be edge

503
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: lords when Trump is president, Like how they just like

504
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: tune in every day and be like, I think the

505
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: president's doing a good job. I think he's cool, but

506
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: like now, like the presidency's going so.

507
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 4: Badly that like I feel like maybe they can continue

508
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 4: to be edge lords because it's like such a counterfactual

509
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 4: take to be like, yeah, I don't know, I think

510
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: he's doing a great job, but yeah, the degree to

511
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: which they have to whiplash what they support like on

512
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: it from day to day is probably a little bit deflating. Yeah.

513
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: I mean, my my friend Nicole Hammer, who who's the

514
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: co host on My History show, and it's like a historian,

515
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: but she really watches right wing spaces, bless her heart.

516
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: She listens to like hours of right wing talk and

517
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: sort of watches stuff every day, and she's like, there

518
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: are very few even the like pure uncut maga folks.

519
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: There are very few like defenses of the tariff policy

520
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: and even the doge stuff, and it is entirely do

521
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: you trust Trump? Like that is this that is the

522
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: safe hit? Yeah, still left, and I mean that's pretty powerful,

523
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, And so it might still work. But but

524
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: even that doesn't feel like like Trump's cool and doesn't

525
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: it feel great to own the libs Like that is

526
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: just seems to have.

527
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: Evaporated or it's it's definitely diminishing return.

528
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: And so who knows. I mean, I don't know what

529
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 1: that means for coming next, But I don't know if

530
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: the pendulum swings all the way back to you know,

531
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: the EI is cool, but uh, you know, but it is.

532
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: That's that's uh, that's my that's my overrated I think like, yeah, I.

533
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: Mean megas, I'm buying low on Mega. I think they're

534
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: going through a rough patch, but buying the dip that day, Well,

535
00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: that's because I am buying that dip by that man

536
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: load one up. There we go.

537
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: Let they put a ginger chew in there.

538
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll

539
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: come back and talk about JD. Vance and his ability

540
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: to pick up physical objects. We'll be right back, and

541
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: we're back. We're back, and JD. Vance, if if he

542
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 2: had ever watched a football game, might have noted that

543
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: what he did yesterday was a bit of a fumble,

544
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: A bit of a fumble. Ruski on his behalf but

545
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: this is I mean, it was a big moment for him.

546
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: He's famous Ohio native, his Ohio State Buckeyes won the

547
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: National football championship and it's everything came together. He was

548
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: there to greet them at the White House and pretty

549
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: much nailed it right. I didn't I didn't see the

550
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: video of that actual Well.

551
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 3: We'll pull up this Zapruder film in a moment, but yeah,

552
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: I mean, what better way for the the Ohio State

553
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: buck guys to celebrate their championship then to go meet

554
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: two dipshits who know nothing about football and Trump and Vance.

555
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure that was great for them, But I think

556
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 3: one thing about JD.

557
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: Vance is his near.

558
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: Cosmic ability to self own whenever there are cameras around,

559
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: and this occasion was no different. So like when you

560
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: will he'll hear this clip, the Marine Corps band is

561
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: like squeaking out, we are the champions. JD Vance attempts

562
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 3: to lift the championship trophy and just makes a total

563
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: fucking ma just it feels like a comedic bit almost

564
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 3: how how comical this fumble is. But here's JD Vance

565
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: and he's about to lift the trophy. Is how do

566
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 3: I hold this spellas oh.

567
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: Oh shit, oh shit, that's okay, all good, all good.

568
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: Then I think another handler comes out to be like,

569
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: hold on, asshole, don't fucking break this.

570
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: When he first approach. Can we just go back to

571
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: the initial back into the left? Yes?

572
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: Right? Do you have you have your illustrator here?

573
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

574
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Like he's doing a couple know how gravity

575
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 4: works at this point, because he's like dragging it a cross,

576
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 4: like he doesn't know to pick it up that that

577
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: you want to like put your hands on the sides

578
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 4: and pull upwards.

579
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: He's just kind of moving it across.

580
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: And oh boy, how many times did he break grandmother's

581
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: earn with all her ashes in it?

582
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: It feels like I gotta saying, I.

583
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Gotta say, this guy in the tan suit is getting

584
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: off scott free.

585
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: Because he played a part. Yeah, yes, I will say. Also,

586
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 2: the structural integrity of the trophy counter Hey, we can

587
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: just call him Barack Obama. Okay, not on my watch

588
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: would he be allowed to wear a suit like that.

589
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the reason too, is interesting because

590
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: a lot of people are like, he broke the trophy,

591
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: And as much as I'd love to say that, it's

592
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: not totally accurate, because the trophy is like it's made

593
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: of two pieces. There's this base and then it's that's

594
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: the base, and then the trophy itself, which looks like

595
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: a gold plated taki. That's the actual trophy. And because

596
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: Vance has no idea like about that, he tried lifting

597
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: like both at the same time. And I think that's

598
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: where like the player was like, nah, bro, this is

599
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: the act, Like just lift the fucking trophy. Like, have

600
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: you seen any photos of a college team that won

601
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: this trophy? They're not like they'll hold the bass at

602
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: the presentation, but when they're parading it around, they're usually

603
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: just holding the fucking gold part. And I think that's

604
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: what he was, like, whoa, what do you okay? You

605
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: want to slide the base off? Go ahead, sir, go ahead.

606
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: This is just like a concentrated shot of like everything

607
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: that was on display and that donut you know where

608
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: he he like went in to order donuts, and it

609
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: was just evident that he had not like ordered anything

610
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: or interact. Like at first, you're like, does he not

611
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: know what a donut is? And then you're like, does

612
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: he not know what human like how to talk to humans? Yeah?

613
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 2: Who who's the least nightmarish of the nightmare blunt rotation

614
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: in the In the Maga world.

615
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: A tough one.

616
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: Steven Miller would be great to get high. Oh I

617
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: would be all.

618
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: I would that one friend that like you'd like the

619
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: fun with everyone kind of likes to fuck with. Oh yeah,

620
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: it'd be great.

621
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

622
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

623
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: There was like a kid I remember in high school.

624
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: We got him high and he he was like his

625
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: first time. He like hid in the back of my

626
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: friend's like pathfinder and He's like, we got to get

627
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: out of here, and I'm like, I don't where. And

628
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: he heard a helicopter goal Bys like they're looking for us. Man,

629
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: my dad's gonna ground me.

630
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh damn, little boy. Was Stephen Miller.

631
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: Miller Miller.

632
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: There's no no looking back from there. Yeah, I mean, so,

633
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: my my good friend Bill Maher actually said Trump is

634
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: pretty chill to hang so, I mean, it's the speak

635
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: of THEO Vaughn. And by the way, this is now

636
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: a THEO Von Recap podcast. But his interview with trust

637
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: was what was it hilarious? Like, I think Trump would

638
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: be entertaining to be in the same room with if

639
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: you weren't you know, being physically revolted by the fact

640
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: that he's a racist Nazi.

641
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: Well that's yeah, because that's the part that happens when

642
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: all the time we get like those quotes out of him, Like,

643
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: I fucking hate that I'm laughing at this piece of shit,

644
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: but there's just something fucking so goofy about it. I

645
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: can't help but laugh when you're like, everything's computer, how

646
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: do you do yet?

647
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: Everything's computer is on the fucking Mount Rustler. For me,

648
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: that is that was so good, wow, incredible everything. I mean,

649
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: that's why I like it was able, you know. I

650
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: mean not to rehash the horrors of the last election,

651
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: but it's like a lot of these right wing podcast folks,

652
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: the Rogans and the Theovons and the Milk Boys and

653
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: so forth. I mean, I think their politics were moving

654
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: a maga direction, but mostly they they had Trump on

655
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: because like they knew that they could chop it up

656
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: for two hours and not feel super awkward. And then

657
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: the Democrats are like, how about this person? It's like,

658
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, this isn't a good hang, so right, yeah,

659
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: I think about the dynamic.

660
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: I think that's the easy part about being a Republican

661
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: right now is you don't have to fake anything. You

662
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: can just be so out there with your backwards ideas,

663
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: whereas the Democrats are so like in their heads about

664
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: triangulating and presenting and evoking the right shibblets at the

665
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: right time that like they don't they're not going to

666
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: come off in the way that they would be open to,

667
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: like talking about cocaine in an interview.

668
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that's you know, I will say, it's

669
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: a long ways to go, but that is starting to change.

670
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's too little, too late, but

671
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: I and maybe this is the flip side to what

672
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier about the cool coming off

673
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: of my maga a little bit. I do think at

674
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: least some democratic channels are starting to realize, like, yeah,

675
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: we just have to be more nimble.

676
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: You know.

677
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Corey Booker gave that thing and then was on like

678
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: six different podcasts and like Instagram shows afterwards, Wing and

679
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: like take.

680
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: The Zeitgeist challenge. Come off and talk about cocaine, right,

681
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: you want to win the people back. Open invitation, any

682
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: sitting senator, come on, let's talk about how fucked up

683
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: you've gotten.

684
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: Ever senators who've done cocaine one through fifty. Let's come.

685
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did Kahla Harris talk about smoking weed at one point?

686
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: I feel yeah, but like it was it was just

687
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: it was like one of the characters. Yeah, but she

688
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: did it in a way.

689
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm Jamaican, you know what I mean, And

690
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: it was sort of like, Okay, like you're saying, of

691
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: course I smoke weed because I'm Jamaican, is like different.

692
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: You know, again, this is a this is an era

693
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: where people were like, if I said I've ever done

694
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Speaker 3: a drug, that's it for me.

695
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: You know.

696
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: They got rid of power Dean for screaming loud. Yeah,

697
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: all right, let's uh, let's take a quick break. We'll

698
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: come back. We'll talk about the latest trends and eyelashes.

699
00:33:48,880 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back. And

700
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: how's ther men doing? How they been out of the

701
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: country versu hor men doing? They figure everything out.

702
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 3: It's a weekly check in, I think on this show

703
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 3: at this point with how are y'all?

704
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: How are we doing out there? Boys? How we doing? Fellas?

705
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 3: Last week there was the Nazi pastor who thought the

706
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: TSA scanner was a gay beam that somehow would take

707
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: away his ability to suppress his own sexuality or some shit.

708
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 3: H Now I'm seeing a trend about guys shaving off

709
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: their eyelashes because if they're too long, they're feminine. They

710
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: want to look more masculine, and nothing looks more masculine than.

711
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: Having no eyelashes. I yuess is the logic here. I

712
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: love to imagine the battle going in going on inside

713
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: these guys where their gay feelings are, like like they

714
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: just they assume that it's being caused by They're like,

715
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: every time I go on a plane, other man like.

716
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like that's that's a question that's

717
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: missing in those conversations are like, you know, and it's

718
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: probably not I don't know. I don't want to do that.

719
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: It's probably gonna make you gay. And I'm like, hold on,

720
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: let's explore that. So what is what's what's what has

721
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 3: been your experience.

722
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: In the machine?

723
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: It goes through you and then you start going, oh,

724
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: I liked how that man told me to assume the

725
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: position in this small booth.

726
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: It's the only it's the only pat down encounter that the.

727
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, only, but it's the only time that somebody another

728
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: male physically touches their body where they don't immediately respond

729
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: by punching them in the shoulder. Come on, who's that?

730
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 4: Bro?

731
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: But wait, Jack, is your is your? Is your theory here?

732
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: That the I'm saying that the t s A screening

733
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: is making me gay is a cover for the gay

734
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: feelings that are already popping up inside it.

735
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a cover. I think it's the

736
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: like it's oblivious, like they're there just like there's something

737
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: going on here. Like that's where like they're assuming that

738
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: everybody is having the same feelings, that those feelings are

739
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: unnatural and coming from outside of them rather than inside

740
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: of them.

741
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: It just seems like you would pick something that happens

742
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: more frequently than the TSA screaming, because if you have

743
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: those feelings all the time, maybe times a year that

744
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: you fly, just be like, uh, you know, drive throughs

745
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: are making me.

746
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 2: He's like, I fly a lot, fly.

747
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: Buddy, I am flying a lot of at least three

748
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 3: times a week I'm flying.

749
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: Maybe something that happens more often, like noticing that your

750
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: eyelash that you have some thick, luscious lash.

751
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: Watch some videos. How do you actually trim your eyelashes?

752
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: Dear, it's about as it's about as simple as you

753
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: thought it would be.

754
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: It's just shaving them off with electric clippers. This is like,

755
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: there's like at first I was like, is this really

756
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: a thing? And now I've seen multiple video some dudes

757
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: in a barber chair and getting their eyelashes trimmed.

758
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: So here's the first one.

759
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: No, no, but first of all, choice, I love this music. Choice.

760
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just turn the audio off there because that's

761
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 2: probably not gonna make it on the Oh.

762
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 3: That first one, how it just went right off. Oh

763
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: my god, I thought I was gonna take the fucking

764
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: eyelid with it.

765
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Can we see a photo of what someone looks.

766
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: Like for people who aren't watching the video that, yeah,

767
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: there's somebody like this is not what I thought was happening.

768
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: I was assuming it would be scissors and you just

769
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: do a like a straight cut, just like having the

770
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: like the thing that like in a movie when somebody

771
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: gets a bad haircut, it's always this thing and like

772
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: the slip yeah yeah, like right next to you close.

773
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: Your eyes so that your lashes are sort of running down, yeah,

774
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: and the razor and they go and just down a beard, yeah,

775
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: like you edge beard what.

776
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: Are the guys like, I like it more to look

777
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: like eyeliner than eyelashes.

778
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: I just wonder how big of a difference it makes.

779
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

780
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like like this, the guy in this video,

781
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: he's got got it's all gone. Yeah, his eyebrows are

782
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: gone too. Well, people have been like sculpting their eyebrows.

783
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 3: I mean this is yeah, I mean, yeah, it's appropriate.

784
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: I guess what I mean. The truth is out there.

785
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: If you have long eyelashes, you are less masculine, clearly, clearly, clearly.

786
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: I mean what are they saying about JD Vans? You know, Like,

787
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't appreciate the application there, fellas.

788
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: Looks because this motherfucker pulling up like one of Odd's homies.

789
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 3: Like we've said, like the beautiful eyeliner, thick gass eyelashes.

790
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: So what is the part of the broken online manisphere

791
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: that this is tapping into?

792
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: I mean, jesus, I mean it just like I think,

793
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: I think it lends itself to video. It makes for

794
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: good video. You get to see somebody go from like

795
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: it's equally I could see this working as like do

796
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: the eyelash challenge. You know it feels, so it makes

797
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: for great video. And then also they're just bored and

798
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: don't have that many different things that they that they

799
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: can work with.

800
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: And also I think we're also just like in this

801
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: era where people don't really think for themselves, Like I

802
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: see this all the time, especially on Reddit, like where

803
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: people are like how do I how do I know

804
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 3: a song is good? Or people like that, like because

805
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: I'm DJing, I'm getting into DJing in and I see

806
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: all these like posts or people are like, what what's

807
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: the way to think about music if it's good? And

808
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 3: somebody people are like, what do you mean? Like if

809
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: you like it, that's that's the benchmark. There's no like

810
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 3: like what's going on. Just honor whatever your feelings are

811
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: about something rather than looking for like an external definition

812
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: of it. And I think stuff like this, or the

813
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: guys who don't wash their ass because if I touch

814
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: my ass, I'm fucking like not straight or whatever. It's

815
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: all like these weird ways to like flatten your identity

816
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: out and like, okay, I can tick the box if

817
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: I do that. Oh thank god I don't have long eyelashes.

818
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 3: Oh thank god, I'm not washing my ass. Now I'm

819
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: a man, and now I've achieved manhood. It's like very

820
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: and I mean it's just like a very. It's like

821
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: a simplified way to sort of assert your identity, but

822
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: like without you know, being truthful about who you are.

823
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, my day, we had no fear t

824
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: shirts to let everybody know we're straight, right, But now

825
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: you have to do it via social media clips where

826
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: my eyelashes off.

827
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: Now's your point about kind of the lack of socialization

828
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Speaker 1: for like how do I figure out who I am?

829
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: You know, and and even stuff like this. I mean,

830
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: there have always been trends, right, but I think that

831
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: one thing I've been thinking about a lot is how

832
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: one of the things that's been hollowed out is the

833
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: whole kind of process by which you have to do

834
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that you actually don't like doing.

835
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, you have to watch movies that you think suck.

836
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: You have to like try on a persona that is

837
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: not for you and then two weeks later shift it.

838
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: You know, you have to kind of like make friends

839
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: who wann't for you and move on. And I think,

840
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: you know, one of the kind of broken promises of

841
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: the Internet, and I think particularly for men. You know

842
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it's even more dire. But it's this like

843
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: shortcutting directly to the thing that you will love and

844
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: will be the core identity, and like you can't shortcut that.

845
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: But also you learn, I mean, I'm preaching the choir,

846
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: but you learn a ton by doing stuff that makes

847
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: you uncomfortable, that isn't for you. You know, like there

848
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: used to be a time when like someone would put

849
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: on a movie and if it sucked, you would just

850
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: like you'd have to watch the whole movie and you

851
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: just and then you talk about why it was bad

852
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: and why you didn't like it, and that was like

853
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: formative and whatever. And now it's like, you know, that's ah,

854
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: that encapsulates it all, Like you can just bail and

855
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: try something else and just keep searching for the perfect thing.

856
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: And one, hey, what's your definition of man? All right?

857
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: Let me try that out?

858
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Like and yeah, to your point, like we're

859
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: not sifting through the variation that exists in life. That

860
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: like I always think about I remember always when I

861
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: was like I don't know what I told my I

862
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: remember telling my dad I was like I don't know

863
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: what I want to fucking do. Like, I don't know

864
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: if I like this job. He's like, you have to

865
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: do shit you don't like to truly understand what you love.

866
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: That's really like nice unless you know out the gate,

867
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: it's so clear to you you have to sift through

868
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: all these different experiences and that's how you build up

869
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: what you actually fucking like. To avoid all these like

870
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 3: experiences just to be like, I know, I'm not gonna

871
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 3: like that. He's like, you might or you might learn

872
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: something very specifically about this thing you don't like that

873
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: maybe you do, and that will completely inform all these other.

874
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: Things that you that you wonder about. And I was like, oh,

875
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

876
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: And I feel like, yeah, to your point, Jody, like

877
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: we people are just the appetite for that is less

878
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: because I think there's so much information out there and

879
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: you can go on TikTok or YouTube and google something

880
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: like how to be more manly.

881
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: That that's just that's like kind of the shortcut of

882
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: of doing stuff like this. But I think it's also

883
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: partially too.

884
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: This is also like we're like living this era of

885
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: content and so a lot of this stuff is gonna

886
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: bubble up. But like I mean, I would say to

887
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: these men who think your eyelashes are too long. I

888
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: have a friend beautiful eyelashes. He gets constant compliments from

889
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: like people coming up to him to be like like

890
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: and even like women. I remember like going to bars, like, dude,

891
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: your game is that your eyelashes are so long that

892
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: people are noticing that.

893
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: Look, it's that easy. Just have your beautiful eyelashes. It's okay.

894
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: Oh.

895
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: And the other thing is we need them evolutionarily speaking,

896
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: that they protect our eyeballs.

897
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: That's why they're there. They're not feminine indicators. Yeah, I

898
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: feel like it's gotta be a real mind fuck just

899
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: for people raised on social media to have been thinking

900
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: of yourself as a brand. Like it's just there's an

901
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: abstraction to the way that like people seem to encounter

902
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: identity now, like that that hasn't been true historically. I

903
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: think it was starting to be true when I was younger,

904
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: but like it's definitely like I think when I was younger,

905
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: I always like had this idea of like imagining myself

906
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: in like a Truman Show situation, even if like it

907
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: just like that, I think a lot of people had that.

908
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: I've like read people and then like there's people who

909
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: even have that as like a psychosis of like thinking

910
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: that they're on is called like Truman Show syndrome. But

911
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 2: now it's like become true, Like you are the star

912
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: of your own reality show, and like you are constructing

913
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: an identity that's like basically a brand, and so I

914
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: feel like that's gotta fuck you up, Like that has

915
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: to make you be like, so, how do I construct

916
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 2: the right music around my brand? As opposed to even

917
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: thinking about your life as right? Well, even which things

918
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: should I like?

919
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: Well, we talked about this to a lot, like Jack,

920
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 3: like how when we were kids and like you know,

921
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: millennials and gen X, like like we would just steal

922
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 3: things from movies or TV like like oh this I

923
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: like this, This is gonna be my person, Like I

924
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: like this character. Yeah, we just if this aligns with

925
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: me or whatever. But even then it was up to

926
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: you to sort of interpret that what it was about

927
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 3: that character or piece of popular culture that appealed to you.

928
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 3: Whereas now it's like you can get It's like the

929
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: information is like just infinite in terms of like you're like,

930
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: oh I'm into this, dude, And then now they have

931
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: all this content when they talk about like this is

932
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: what I do to be a man, this is how

933
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: this is how I live, this is how I eat,

934
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: this is all these other things. So it becomes very

935
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: rigid suddenly.

936
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.

937
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: Mean that gets us something. I think if I think,

938
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: whenever I have these conversations, I always try and remember

939
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: kind of what is what is the actual difference now,

940
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, because people have always gone through phases, right,

941
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: There've always been fads and trends, and even those have

942
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: come pretty fast, you know, you like a goth for

943
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: a week, and then you move on, you know, so

944
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: that that in and of itself, like people trying on

945
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: different personas and trying to be different and present themselves

946
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: in different ways to different people, is not that new.

947
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: I think it's something about a little bit of the speed,

948
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, by which you can kind of rip through that,

949
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: like you don't have to just sit with it. But

950
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: also I just think that the feedback, right, the immediate feedback,

951
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: so that you're constantly kind of like testing and ab testing, yeah, yourself.

952
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, if you're just a high schooler, you

953
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: see the way someone dresses in a movie and it's

954
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven and you try that on, like you

955
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: kind of got to just that's kind of got to

956
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: be your thing for a week at least, and you're

957
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: not going to immediately see how people react, and you

958
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: kind of have to live with it in your own head,

959
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: which I think is really important.

960
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: Or your classmates aren't like posting your outfit and being

961
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: like yo, l outfit or the right and you're like,

962
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: oh fuck yeah, just that. Yeah, that instant feedback is

963
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: I think probably the biggest biggest.

964
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: And also the confusion of just like attention with you know,

965
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: like getting a lot of like a thing going viral,

966
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: like shaving your fucking eyelashes off with being like some

967
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: manner of approval you know, is probably a little bit different.

968
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: Like if somebody edged up their eyelashes in high school,

969
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: I think they would get a lot of attention, but

970
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: it would be pretty evident that it wasn't necessarily positive.

971
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: Whereas this it just feels like easy to confuse like

972
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: the velocity of like how much attention is pouring in

973
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: with value that you're getting.

974
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: Or it feels like that sort of like pathological thing

975
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: a lot of us do with like self criticism, Like yeah,

976
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: you sort of pre empt criticism because you're already criticizing yourself,

977
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: and like, if you were working that out, like with

978
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 3: your mental health and your emotional well being, you'd probably

979
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 3: arrive at a place where it's like, well, do you want.

980
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: To live in a world where all that criticism is flying?

981
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: Like wouldn't you rather live in a place where you

982
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 3: can just be yourself and that's okay? That would probably

983
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: sort of stop the ruminating on, Like am I am?

984
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: I was? Just? Am I fucking up?

985
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: And I think I am really really embracing that idea that,

986
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: like I that is a better world to live in.

987
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: I think that's sort of like this philosophical rubicon they

988
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: have to you have to cross on some level to

989
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: be like I'm not I don't want to live in

990
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: a world where I'm so fucking like.

991
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: Look, what the fuck is this?

992
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: What are they worring?

993
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: What does that mean about me?

994
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: Where he's like, yeah, do whatever the fuck you want, man,

995
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want and

996
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear all right.

997
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: So I do have a question based on this story

998
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: that's very dumb and has nothing to do with the

999
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: philosophical questions. Do they grow back? And if they do

1000
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: how they know to grow back? How do they? How

1001
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: do your eyelash know?

1002
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 4: Your eyelashes know to grow back? Because my eyelashes have

1003
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: been the same length for thirty years?

1004
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: What how how they know? Are my eyelashes falling out

1005
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: and then new ones are growing in? What happened to you? Man?

1006
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 2: Do you shave? You shave your beard? Right? You worried

1007
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: how your beard knows to grow back?

1008
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: It?

1009
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: But okay, so my beard. If I don't shave my beard,

1010
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: it will keep growing. I will look like Tom saying

1011
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: in that one and that by his Self film. But

1012
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: if I shave, if I I haven't shaved my eyelashes

1013
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: in weeks, and like they, it hasn't grown. You know,

1014
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: it hasn't grown. So I'm just wondering that. That's always

1015
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: been a question I have is how do how does

1016
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: if my leg hair hasn't been shaved for my whole

1017
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: life and it doesn't just keep growing indefinitely when I

1018
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: do shave it, how my leg hair no no to grow? Then? Yeah,

1019
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: it's it's the follicles from what I'm reading. Damn. Yeah,

1020
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: they just know at a certain point they're like, nah,

1021
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: that's it.

1022
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 3: We're not that kind of hair that's over there, if

1023
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: you want to do all that long stuff, or tell

1024
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: that to.

1025
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 2: My one weird long eyebrow hair I have. I feel

1026
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: like this probably doesn't work the way that supposedly you're

1027
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: heard and must have where it like comes back thicker,

1028
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: you know, because if it would, I feel like a

1029
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: lot of people would be shaving their eyelashes. There would

1030
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: be no need for Latisse. Yeah right, exactly.

1031
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: Charala Mae has great eyelashes, right, isn't that one? Oh yeah?

1032
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: Challo may Zach effron Zane, I mean fucking Zane. Are

1033
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: we even talking about here? Robert Pattison, All right, Jody,

1034
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: it's been wonderful having you on the podcast has always worked.

1035
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: Let's see those. Let's see those d let me see

1036
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: what are you work? You got there? You're hiding them

1037
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 2: behind oh slashes? Right?

1038
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: Hell yeah? Hell yeah yeah beautiful? Oh Jack stop stunting

1039
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: on the shouldn't ask because he's just gonna come through

1040
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 3: with his.

1041
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: These are mink, Jody, Where can people find you? Follow you?

1042
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Hear you all that good stuff? Well?

1043
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I do a bunch of stuff, but I would I

1044
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: would encourage people to listen to Summer album Winter album.

1045
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,959
Speaker 1: That's the name of the show. It's called Summer Album,

1046
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: Winter Album. We're doing full out, full episodes every couple

1047
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: of weeks and little stuff in between. But it's been Yeah,

1048
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: it's been really really fun to make the show. So

1049
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: I love people to check it out. Yeah.

1050
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

1051
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, I am reading a great new book. It's

1052
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: called what is it called. I'm having one of those

1053
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: Tom Petty moments.

1054
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

1055
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: Now, it's called Playworld. Do you know about this book

1056
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: by Adam Ross? I believe is the name. Yeah, Playworld

1057
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: by Adam Ross has a great cover. But also that

1058
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: the novel stuff, it's good. It's a novel. It's about

1059
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: a sort.

1060
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 4: Of inside stuff that's good. I've ever heard that we

1061
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 4: blurb the content of the book.

1062
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: The words and whatnot. Uh, it's it's about a young

1063
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: boy growing up in New York City in the nineteen eighties,

1064
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's just a great little sort

1065
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: of family story. But also you know there's these moments

1066
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: to sort of take you too to New York City

1067
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: in that era, which is a treat.

1068
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, miles, Yeah, where can people find you as

1069
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: their working media you've been enjoying.

1070
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray, you find

1071
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: Jack and I'm the Basketball podcast Miles and Jack.

1072
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm on Gooses.

1073
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 3: Find me on the ninety Day Fiance podcast for twenty

1074
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 3: Day Fiance. Let's see a work of media I do enjoy. Yes,

1075
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: this was posted, give me one moment to bring some

1076
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: in it. This is from at Shen Underscore the underscore

1077
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: bird Shen the bird parenthetical on the phone. Yeah, we

1078
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: were going to raise against the dying of the light.

1079
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: Later if you're down, switch his phone to.

1080
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: The other ear. You're what hold on covers phone this

1081
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: dipshit's going gentle into that good night. That's on my

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Speaker 2: list too. Ah, look at us, Look at us. We're

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Speaker 2: SYNCD again. Maybe all right. You can find me on

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Speaker 2: Twitter at Jack underscorel Brian on Blue Sky at Jack

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Speaker 2: ob the number one workimedia I've been enjoying. First of all,

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Speaker 2: Alec carritt Santis's book Coppaganda is out yesterday. Yeah, came

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Speaker 2: out yesterday. Go to your local bookstore, ask your library

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Speaker 2: to carry it. It's really good book. We had Alec

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Speaker 2: on a couple of weeks ago to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: So go back and check out that episode if you

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Speaker 2: need some convincing but full of, as he put examples

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Speaker 2: patterns of like institutions we think of as well meaning

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Speaker 2: like news outlets, magazines, universities, professors and nonprofits that are

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Speaker 2: walking us off an authoritarian cliff. And yeah, good book,

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Speaker 2: good read, not fun, but just very enlightening. Highly recommend it.

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Speaker 2: I like to tweet from. In addition to the going

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Speaker 2: quietly into that good night, PJ Evans tweeted seeing one

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Speaker 2: of my old teachers, are you still obsessed with spelling

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Speaker 2: things correctly? And then one dozen rats at a keyboard

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Speaker 2: at Panasonic DX four or five forty five thousand tweeted

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Speaker 2: starting a conspiracy that the Katie Perry who came back

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Speaker 2: from space isn't the same one who would not. You

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Speaker 2: can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist and on

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Speaker 2: Blue Sky at daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist

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Speaker 2: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website,

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Speaker 2: Daily Zeitgeist, And you can go to the description of

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Speaker 2: this episode wherever you're listening to it, and you can

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Speaker 2: find the footnotes, which is where we link off to

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Speaker 2: the information that we talked about in today's episode, we

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Speaker 2: also link off to a song that we think you

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Speaker 2: might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think

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Speaker 2: people might enjoy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: This is a just some nice, some nice Brazilian music,

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Speaker 3: just to nod your head too, just to give yourself

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Speaker 3: just a nice sonic break from things.

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Speaker 2: Call her song. Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of

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Speaker 2: Brazilian Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think some like maybe like this stan

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Speaker 3: Get Spasa Nova stuff could feel wintry to me.

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Speaker 2: That feels a little bit more cozy with Babel Giberto.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, this is called Naboca Dul Soul and it's

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Speaker 3: by the artist Arthur of et OLSI V E r

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Speaker 3: O c a I. And it's just again nice, got

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Speaker 3: a little brass in it, but just nice vibes Portuguese vibes,

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Speaker 3: Brazilian vibes.

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Speaker 2: Now Boca del soult. Check it out. Hell yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: We will link off to that in the foot note.

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Speaker 2: For Days is a production of iHeart Radio. For more

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Speaker 2: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for us this morning. We're back

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. To tell you what is trended, and we

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Speaker 2: will talk to you all then, Bye bye bye. The

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