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Speaker 1: Welcome to the newest edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is Giants Pass Rusher Quincy Roche. But first

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Speaker 1: way to grow these things and get more listeners. Now

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Speaker 1: we're joined by our guests. He is Giants Pass Rusher

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Speaker 1: and Defensive End Slash edge player Quincy Rochet. It's funny

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Speaker 1: you laugh, but it's really not that simple these classifications anymore, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would just classify every edge guy is an edge guy.

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Speaker 1: That's what I like too. By the way, I prefer

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Speaker 1: that as well. So let's kind of start there. Do

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Speaker 1: you prefer hand in the dirt or do you prefer

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Speaker 1: standing up? What do you I've done them both ways

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Speaker 1: throughout my career. UM, so I really don't have a preference.

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Speaker 1: Um Sometimes I feel like I get better, get better

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Speaker 1: vision standing up, but sometimes I feel like I want

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Speaker 1: to get off and I want the power of a

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Speaker 1: three point stands. So it really depends on what I

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Speaker 1: see and what I feel most comfortable with. And is

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Speaker 1: it also depending on what they're asking you to do

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Speaker 1: on to play well yeah yeah so um but even then,

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Speaker 1: so even if I'm dropping, um, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: really it depends on what what how I feel most

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Speaker 1: comfortable to exec execute my technique. You do think you

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Speaker 1: get a better get off though, from that three point

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Speaker 1: stands if if you want to flat out rush uh

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Speaker 1: so so his his, So a lot of coaches tell

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Speaker 1: me I do yeah so yeah, yeah, because I feel

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Speaker 1: better standing up, But you know, the coaches tell me

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Speaker 1: I'm better off from the three point, which is why

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Speaker 1: I've been in a a three point You talk about standing

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Speaker 1: up and you get better vision, right, Why is that

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Speaker 1: valuable to you? Be able to get that vision when

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Speaker 1: you're trying to get after the quarterback? Is it reading

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Speaker 1: play direction or is it just keeping eyes on the quarterback? Right?

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Speaker 1: It's it's all about just gathering as much information as possible. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm able to look at the tackle. UM.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm able to tell if it's running past.

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Speaker 1: I'm able to I'm able to look at the split

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Speaker 1: You know, just a number of things. It's just I'm

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Speaker 1: able to collect data, UM, And the more data that

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Speaker 1: I can collect, the better off that I could play. No,

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Speaker 1: it makes sense going back to your colleges. Remember watching you,

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Speaker 1: do you feel more comfortable rushing off right end right

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Speaker 1: to your college in high school years. Right. Uh. You

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Speaker 1: know that's a good question. So I try to force

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Speaker 1: Because against the Chiefs, I had to be on the

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Speaker 1: I prefer the left side. I'm in the right side,

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Speaker 1: but I'm I'm fully prepared to put it on the

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Speaker 1: for a pass rusher when you're an edge guy, when

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Speaker 1: So it's not like it's not like offense where it's

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Speaker 1: like to whole entirely different techniques. Not ten times out

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Speaker 1: What did you say pre snap? And then how did

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Speaker 1: it's a really good move. Um you know, um so

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Speaker 1: last week about how he's been working with a lot

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Speaker 1: on the fundamentals and they run that hoop draw in practice. Right.

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Speaker 1: Is that something that you guys are constantly working on

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Speaker 1: To get that then something we do just about every day.

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Speaker 1: excellent play. So how have you ingratiate yourself into the

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the easy. Um. You know, I gotta give

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Speaker 1: two completely different systems, um to like two completely different systems. UM.

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Speaker 1: But one thing that's helped me is UM. In college,

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Speaker 1: You know both UM and and one that was very

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Speaker 1: I really don't think about it. It doesn't matter either way. Really,

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Speaker 1: I come here with the same mindset. I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: mindset every day. You mentioned it was similar to your

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Speaker 1: thirteen sacks. Right, Yeah, that's what you're talking about. Defensive

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