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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecoff three and out podcast,

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Speaker 1: Happy fourth of July weekend. I actually recorded this podcast

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Speaker 1: going on, fire through your questions at John Middlecoff is

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Speaker 1: lost your question, it gets lost in the shuffle. I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to be an asshole. I'm not doing it

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Speaker 1: on purpose, but it's happened countless times, and I think

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Speaker 1: people think I'm avoiding their question. I'm definitely not. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: with them all sometimes not you know, I say it

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Speaker 1: not to make excuses, but that's a legitimate excuse. So

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Speaker 1: let's start with this. A guy that I've misplaced his

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Speaker 1: question several times. So what I did is I wrote

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Speaker 1: it down. I wrote it down. When it comes to

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Speaker 1: defensive players, Junior say Out is my favorite player I've

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Speaker 1: ever watched play the game of football. In this new

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Speaker 1: draft that we just had, do you see anybody that

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Speaker 1: I always ruggle with this unless it's like Andrew Luck,

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Speaker 1: and he is. Really he's an outlier when you compare

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Speaker 1: and you start putting guys in draft classes that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be Junior say I was a twelve time Pro bowler,

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Speaker 1: because he was a star player, and part of it

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Speaker 1: might be playing for the Chargers and Dean Spanos, but

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Speaker 1: Junior was a stud. I mean, thinking about this, the

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Speaker 1: don't think there's anyone in this class. Maybe I like

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at what was he drafted? Mean, Junior say,

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Speaker 1: their second year to make more money? Almost how arbitration

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Speaker 1: In football, even as a first rounder, I only have

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Speaker 1: the NFL does it. You know, even if you're you know,

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Speaker 1: George Kittle, look at George Kittle is looking for a

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Speaker 1: I mean, losing a third round or doesn't matter because

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Speaker 1: Whether you're Jeff Bezos, whether you're Bill Belichick, whether you're

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Speaker 1: they would never have allowed that way. Bill you're sending

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Speaker 1: or a video for your website on your advanced scouts

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Speaker 1: when you're playing us in two weeks and you're you know,

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Speaker 1: Kraft and Jonathan Craft, they wouldn't care. The only people

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Speaker 1: what the advantages that there aren't really even signs anymore.

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Speaker 1: so you can communicate with the offensive her defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: But clearly Belichick thinks that. So no, I don't think

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Speaker 1: not an option, right, So I think Belichick kind of

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Speaker 1: has the franchise by the balls. As a Jets fan,

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Speaker 1: I believe Sam Donald is the franchise quarterback for the team.

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Speaker 1: But with the incompetency of incompetency, it's a tough word

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Speaker 1: quarterback prospects coming up in Lawrence and Fields. I googled

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Speaker 1: it earlier today. Sam Donald just turned twenty three years old.

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Speaker 1: Let me repeat, he just turned twenty three years old.

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Speaker 1: He's being the league. This will be his third year.

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Speaker 1: He is very very young. He left ufc USC almost

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Speaker 1: He couldn't leave college any earlier. They would be insane

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Speaker 1: if they got did anything with Sam Donald. And that

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Speaker 1: blue chip. He's a big time quarterback prospect. And last year,

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Speaker 1: he wants seven and nine. Can you imagine their offensive

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Speaker 1: line should be better, their defense should be better, the

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Speaker 1: team should be better. They should win eight or nine

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Speaker 1: games this year. Like Sam Donald, I like Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: and I like the Bill's roster and coach a lot better.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald is dramatically better than Josh Allen in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: Like if both teams could choose, you would take Sam

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Speaker 1: Dome unlikely scenario here, but I think it's interesting. Now

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Speaker 1: the Pat's got Cam, they'll probably be the favorites to

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Speaker 1: win the division again. However, as a Pats fan, I

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Speaker 1: think the defense is being overrated. That's they still have

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Speaker 1: an elite secondary, but the linebacking corps went from good

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Speaker 1: as the defensive line is pretty average. I think if

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Speaker 1: somehow they signed Clowney to a back end deal, uh

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Speaker 1: three years, forty five million is salary for the upcoming

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Speaker 1: year could be about ten and the next two years

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Speaker 1: about seventeen and a half. Belichick gets an elite talent

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Speaker 1: that fills the need the Clowney can prove he's a

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Speaker 1: difference maker along making close to eighteen million two of

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Speaker 1: the three years he's a Patriot. Patriots would have to

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Speaker 1: do some work to create cap space, but he can

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Speaker 1: be but can be done by extending or trading Thuney

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Speaker 1: along with extending Gilmore. Sorry for such a long message.

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Speaker 1: By the way, next year they have over eighty million

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Speaker 1: dollars in cap space, so it's not a big issue

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Speaker 1: big picture. I like where your mind's at, because Belichick

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Speaker 1: loves the value. He loves a deal. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: just dreams of signing players for cheap. The problem with

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Speaker 1: Clowney is he even relatively speaking, he's not that cheap

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Speaker 1: very difficult job. Like it's it's pretty crazy. And that's

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Speaker 1: back to the Cleveland Browns Stefanski. I listen to this

426
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Speaker 1: podcast he did with Woes. His dad's an NBA exactly.

427
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Speaker 1: They kind of did this crossover. He is a impressive guy.

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Speaker 1: He's smart. You know, I've just seen his pictures. He

429
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Speaker 1: looks the part. I think he played at Ivy League.

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Speaker 1: He ran a really good offense last year's first year coordinating.

431
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Speaker 1: But to think and just assume that he's going to

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Speaker 1: be able to just be the manager of a football operation,

433
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Speaker 1: let alone be good enough to coach it is. It's

434
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 1: always the great unknown with coaches when you hire a

435
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: first time guy like for as great as Kyle Shanahan

436
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: is now three years later, I didn't know any of

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Speaker 1: this when we got him. When he showed up to

438
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Speaker 1: the Bay Area, I was like, yeah, you know, you know, tall,

439
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: skinny guy, Mike Shanahan's kid runs pretty good offensive coordinator.

440
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Speaker 1: Do you don't want to you don't think I'm most

441
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Speaker 1: impressed just watching Kyle Shanahan in my backyard for the

442
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Speaker 1: last three years is how consistent he is as a human,

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Speaker 1: Like he never gets that mad on press conferences after

444
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Speaker 1: wins and losses. He kind of reacts the same way.

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00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: He's got like the millennial whatever, the next generation is

446
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Speaker 1: version of Belichick. Now he's not as angry daily as Belichick.

447
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Speaker 1: And I saw it. I saw it the same thing

448
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Speaker 1: with Andy Reid. They don't get too high, they don't

449
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Speaker 1: get too low. Pretty consistent, and it's it's actually much

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Speaker 1: rarer obviously for younger people, because we're a little more emotional,

451
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Speaker 1: little less mature. It's just human nature saying weird like

452
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Speaker 1: I'm thirty five, Coles only five years younger. You mature

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Speaker 1: as you get older, but there's a big difference between

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Speaker 1: maturity at like sixty four or in at forty. And

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00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: you just never know that until you see it and

456
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: then know when some of the guys on the team

457
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Speaker 1: and have an interviewed him. Just like God, Kyle is

458
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Speaker 1: just so consistent with us, so good with us. You

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Speaker 1: just you see a lot of coaches they just freak

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Speaker 1: out because they're just overwhelmed. Again, you are controlling the

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Speaker 1: football operation and managing people like you're a normal boss.

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Speaker 1: It's a double whammy. It's I can't imagine how difficult

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Speaker 1: it is. So It's like you could argue the amount

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Speaker 1: of money they get paid. They had to pay that much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, ship, you lose your mind. Assuming two thousand

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Speaker 1: twenties season goes off without a hitch, who is more

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Speaker 1: likely to be the starter at their current team in

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Speaker 1: two thousand one, Drew lock Gardner, Minshew or Cam Newton.

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Speaker 1: To me, this is a no brainer. It's Drew lock

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew was six round pick. If they lose a

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Speaker 1: ton of games this year, the guy probably be gone.

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton. The contract details came out on when it

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Speaker 1: is his Thursday, might came out Wednesday. I can't even

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Speaker 1: remember now he's making He got like five hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed, so you know if he were to go bad.

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Speaker 1: You could say two questions about Oregon football. But let

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Speaker 1: me just spit some facts. First, Oregon has signed five

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Speaker 1: five stars in the last three years, and the rest

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Speaker 1: of the pack twelve has signed two other five stars,

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Speaker 1: both at Washington. Oregon's last three years has signed the

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Speaker 1: seventh best recruiting class, the twelfth best recruiting class, and

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Speaker 1: so far this year, the sixth best recruiting class. Oregon

483
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Speaker 1: is also returning one of the best defense in the nation.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of Oregon ceiling is of the

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Speaker 1: next five years? What do you think of Mario Cristobal?

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Speaker 1: Now I underestimated how great a recruiter is. He's a

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Speaker 1: relentless recruiter, and I think the only guy that would

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Speaker 1: even be in that kind of breath I guess Lane

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Speaker 1: and was kind of like that when he got the

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Speaker 1: job from Tennessee, but it was much more difficult because

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Speaker 1: they just got sanctions. When Pete Carroll was signed, he

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Speaker 1: changed the pack twelve forever he was. He turned it

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Speaker 1: into a national recruiting base because he signed people from everywhere,

494
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Speaker 1: and whoever the best player was in Jersey, he'd get it.

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Speaker 1: Who Ever the best player was in Michigan, he'd get it.

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Speaker 1: Whoever the best player was in Florida, he was coming

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Speaker 1: for you. Whoever the best player in Texas was Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll wanted you before I was like, oh, let's just

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Speaker 1: go with l A and get some dudes from Sack

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Speaker 1: and maybe a dude from Vegas. Well, Pete Carroll was like,

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Speaker 1: screw that. The best player in Georgia, I want a

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Speaker 1: shot at him. And you know what, he got him.

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Speaker 1: And I think Mario brings that mindset. You know why,

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Speaker 1: because that's the mindset in the sec Urban Meyer, Nick

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Speaker 1: saban Ato, Geron Kirby, Smart, Dan Mullins, Spurrier. I mean

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Speaker 1: all uh Les, Miles, all the guys that have coached

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Speaker 1: there in the last you know, two decades. It's an

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Speaker 1: aggressive recruiting player. It's dogg eat dog. And I think Mario,

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Speaker 1: who comes from saban has that mindset and he clearly

510
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Speaker 1: is really good at it. In Oregon recruits itself. I

511
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Speaker 1: mean It'scott Nike, they have a history, they win a

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Speaker 1: ton of pros. I think the key is this. Their

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Speaker 1: defense is legit. Their defense is really really good, and

514
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Speaker 1: they're signing guys left and right their stars on defense.

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Speaker 1: Their offensive line under Mario is gonna be legit. He's

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Speaker 1: an offensive line coach. Saving had him as the offensive

517
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Speaker 1: line coach. He's gonna recruit pros and stars like that's.

518
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Speaker 1: Their offensive line is gonna be top notch. Organs always

519
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: got quarterbacks, so they're gonna have a guy throwing the ball.

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00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: Last year they're there. Wide receivers and running backs were terrible.

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Speaker 1: Texting with Jeff Schwartz played at Oregon, played in the league,

522
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Speaker 1: probably following on Twitter. He was texting me during the season.

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Speaker 1: A part of it was early in the Auburn game.

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Speaker 1: I was shipping on Mario and he defended him and

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Speaker 1: he was right. The team was it was. It was

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Speaker 1: a button up operation. Even in the loss to Auburn,

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00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: it was an impressive game, even though you could argue

528
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: Mario got a little tight down the stretch. Whatever. They're

529
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Speaker 1: running backs and wide receivers for the pack twelve to

530
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: me or average, like they should have a couple of

531
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Speaker 1: NFL wide receivers. And I don't even just mean first rounders.

532
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: The guys are just draftable players, a draftable tight end

533
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Speaker 1: and star running backs. When I think Oregon, I think

534
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: you know Ontario Smith. I think Jonathan Stewart, Kenyan Barner,

535
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: Michael James, like do is. They would gash you. And

536
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: they didn't have that last year. They had to start

537
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback, star offensive line and they didn't have any

538
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: skill guys and they still won the Rose Bowl. But

539
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Speaker 1: you know, to beat Auburn, to compete in the playoffs

540
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: against the Clemsons, the Bamba's, the Ohio States, like you

541
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Speaker 1: need Zeke, you need a Marii, you need Michael Thomas.

542
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: You need Nick Chubb like it's just the cost of

543
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Speaker 1: doing business. You need Paris Campbell, like you need uh

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Speaker 1: think of all the dudes Clemson, T Higgins, Uh et

545
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Speaker 1: n you know, Deshaun Watson, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Williams, Like

546
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Speaker 1: you need those dudes to win Natties. Look at Oklahoma

547
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: just to get there, they need Ceedee Lamb, Hollywood Brown,

548
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: some I G. P Ryan, Joe Mixon, Mark Andrews. That

549
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: was just to get there and compete with Georgia. They

550
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Speaker 1: still lost. Had all those dudes, all those dudes lost out.

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Speaker 1: Thinking about that, it's like you need you need NFL

552
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: players at this skill positions and obviously a good defense,

553
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: which they're gonna have, But if they got NFL skill

554
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: guys that they'll have a chance. I'm pretty impressed in

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00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: myself that I redid this. This was a test of

556
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: early test of my will. What are your thoughts on

557
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: the Vikings this season specifically, do you think the acquisition

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00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: of Justin Jefferson will have a significant difference in their

559
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: offense and is the secondary and the rest of the

560
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: defense prime to bounce back defense will be fine. I

561
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: know they cut efforts and Griffin. Uh. They got rid

562
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: of Xavier Rhodes, Trey Wayne's left in free agency, but

563
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: they still got Hunter Kendricks, h Bar Harrison Smith. The

564
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: other safety is really good. Zimmers a defensive wizard. They'll

565
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: be fine. To me, it's offense. Stefan Digs a little

566
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: bit of a diva, not disputing that had a hundred

567
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Speaker 1: and sixty three catches last year. For the last two year.

568
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: I think a hundred sixty five catches the last two years.

569
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Speaker 1: So if you average that out, that's what eight basically

570
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: eighty two catches a year and fifteen touchdowns last two years.

571
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: Like that guy's that guy produced George Jefferson's excuse me,

572
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson is gonna catch eighty balls this year like that.

573
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: They needed that guy to produce and he's a slot receiver.

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Speaker 1: The one thing Diggs did his stress the field. You

575
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: have a sweet running back, you have feeling working over

576
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Speaker 1: the middle, and you've got Diggs going deep and they

577
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: were just kicking everyone's ass. Now the tight end they

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00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: have is it Otis Smith. I think he was a

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Speaker 1: rookie last year. I know a couple of guys from

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Speaker 1: I've had multiple people from the Bears tell me that

581
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: they are. They are high on him. They think he's

582
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: got a chance to be pretty good. Is his name

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Speaker 1: Otis Smith. I don't even know. I don't know why.

584
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: I might have to look at the Vikings roster. But

585
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: so the other thing is with Kirk Cousins is that

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Speaker 1: he's very dependent on the other guys. IRV Smith excuse me,

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00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: not Otis Smith. IRV Smith IRV Smith Jr. Who I

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00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: think they draft in the second round? Excuse me? The

589
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: fifth round? Am I looking at the right guy? Typed in?

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00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: Cameron Smith? IRV Smith Jr. He's a second round bick.

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00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: Cameron Smith was a dude. They went to USC It's

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00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: hard doing research on the fly. Yeah, the kid from Bama.

593
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: He went to Alabama. IRV Smith, junior talented guy. I

594
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: think he's got a chance just from talking to different

595
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: people people I know people that are high on him.

596
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: Uh sorry I called the motus but yeah, I mean

597
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: I I'd say the Vikings anywhere between eight to ten wins.

598
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: It just depends how good the Bears are. If the

599
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: Bears are good, the Packers might come back to Earth

600
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: a little bit in the lions stink. So that's weird

601
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: division because you still got old Rogers. But okay, let's

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Speaker 1: end on that happy fourth of July. Uh, try to

603
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: smile this weekend. Try to enjoy your family, your friends,

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00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: have some dogs, throwback a few pops, go for a

605
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: little swim, go for a walk. Be nice to your girlfriend,

606
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: be nice to your wife, be nice to your kids.

607
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: I'll just try to be positive in this miserable world

608
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: we're living in right now. And uh and get ready,

609
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: football season is not that far away. Audios, godspeed, have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend.