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Speaker 1: What freak? Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Give it not?

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Speaker 4: This is our fucking away said?

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Speaker 2: I say dunkin Doo, say donuts, tal gut, tal gut.

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Speaker 5: When I say cafe, you say Nero Cathae Cafe.

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Speaker 6: When I say seaport, you say district isn't really up

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Speaker 1: Seaport that's a sleigh honey. Oh my god, God, I

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Speaker 1: actually can't believe this is real, Like chills, actually full chills.

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Speaker 1: You guys. I'm so grateful, so grateful.

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you guys

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Speaker 1: You're gonna die here. You're never gonna leave the paking

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Speaker 2: You're never gonna leave the boat house, your cocks and

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Speaker 1: You don't even row anymore. Well, I never wrote I

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Speaker 1: Seems to have no it died on the vine.

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Speaker 5: Okay, No, I feel like, oh knocking on thirty seven,

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Speaker 6: No fritzy frisbee. Your body like never peaks for frisbee.

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Speaker 5: Not to brag, but at my really funky high school,

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Speaker 5: Cameber School of Boston, I have any lums here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Dead sound? Are there any BB and Inn Knights

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Speaker 1: in the crowd? Stop? We have nights?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 1: One, two, three? Okay? Can I get around of Jerusalem?

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Speaker 6: And did those feeding ancient times walk upon England's mountains?

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Speaker 7: How did I miss the BB and theme song?

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Speaker 1: The hymn the Bbing in him Lily.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I didn't stay long enough for the hymns. I

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Speaker 5: of Belchi, everyone is welcome, all lives, a nationalities.

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Speaker 1: We have a crazy night in store for you. Much fun.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be so fun.

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Speaker 7: We have a crazy famous Boston local.

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Speaker 1: Which we are obsessed with, and I was like, should

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Speaker 5: They were never married. Sorry, men, what's wrong with them?

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Speaker 1: So they have DJ daughters.

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Speaker 6: They have DJ daughters who are DJing all the hottest

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Speaker 6: So we just thought we'd bring, you know, someone else,

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Speaker 6: Someone who's very familiar with Lily and Me. Even you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my father, doctor Dupot, give it up for my dad,

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Speaker 1: We traveled all the way here from the Ritz Carlton,

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Speaker 6: All right, Yeah, you sit in the hot seat, So

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Speaker 6: Good jeans? Good jeans, Doug thing? Is this your first

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Speaker 1: You used to live in Brighton, right, DoD.

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Speaker 8: We started out in Brighton. We moved here from California.

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Speaker 6: Would you be willing to share with the audience how

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Speaker 8: I bought. Was you know, three bedroom, two story house?

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Speaker 6: What's even the point what they bought a house for

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Speaker 5: You can't even get like a tiny You can't go

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Speaker 8: But well, I had to borrow money from my dad

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Speaker 1: Perfect, Okay, So you guys can all hold him. You're

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Speaker 8: What are you saying you're gay?

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Speaker 8: Who are your gayer?

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Speaker 1: Should we play, right, We're gonna play a games. Yeah, okay, God, if.

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Speaker 6: You look at the screen for a second. So this

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Speaker 6: is a game we like to call Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard.

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Speaker 7: So we're gonna, you know, show some signs.

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Speaker 5: Nantucket Martha's Vineyard.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Doug rushed to see that. Commuters. He's a

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Speaker 6: He's going with the crowd, wisdom of the crowd, I think,

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Speaker 6: because he is very like rich Son in this way,

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Speaker 6: and I feel like that's very Nantucket.

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Speaker 5: And could you see him in like the tiniest like

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Speaker 6: But yeah, and he's like the gothist girl in Natalkia,

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that's gotta be a Nantucket.

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Speaker 6: a little bit more like all the stars go there

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Speaker 6: Edgar Town's.

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Speaker 1: More like you're just at your own estate.

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Speaker 5: Susan Sarandon is going, Okay, here's Catherine Hepburn.

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Speaker 1: Might go to Martha's vineyard.

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Speaker 5: Yes, but Carrie Grant would just be like I put

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Speaker 5: on my finest suit and went to the whaling museum

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Speaker 5: and I learned how to kill a whale.

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Speaker 1: Okayh he's meth Never.

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Speaker 8: You'll never find a pseudo British accent on Martha's vineyard.

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Speaker 6: So you're saying Nantucket is actually more the home of

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Speaker 6: people who are like pretending to be Transatlantic.

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Speaker 8: That could be true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, shots fire. I don't think success.

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Speaker 8: I don't think you need the transcendental part. It's just

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Speaker 1: All right, next slide, please laias my class name. She's

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Speaker 1: so vineyard. She's so Hamptons, which is so vineyard. Okay.

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Speaker 5: A friend is inviting her to Nantucket with Alex, but she's.

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Speaker 1: Like, I need all my like yoga studios.

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Speaker 7: She's doing a yoga retreat on the vineyard.

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Speaker 6: Boston native Mindy Kaylee. Yeah, she's funky. She's fun she's

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Speaker 5: She also is like selfie in front of the funky

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Speaker 8: Well, not only do you know, but everybody else know

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Speaker 6: You've never seen her on the island, of course, on Nantucket, Doug,

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Speaker 1: It's a TikTok. He was like, it's podcast, it's TikTok,

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Speaker 9: Let's celebrate like cannot speak for themselves.

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Speaker 6: No, and just because DearS don't have the faculty of

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Speaker 5: Him Next, Taylor and Travis Doug.

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Speaker 1: Are you a fan of Taylor Swift?

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Speaker 8: Taylor Swift, Yes, I feel like you would be. I

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Speaker 6: So you're jamming a camera up someone and it's either

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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm the problem, it's me?

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Speaker 7: Or do you stick the camera up someone's ask.

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Speaker 9: It's calming yet it's calming yet empowering you get because

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Speaker 1: Makes me want to become a doctor. I know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm like a play. It's fun. It's fun on Taylor

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Speaker 6: Okay, But so do you think that she and her

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Speaker 8: I think that's Martha's dr.

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Speaker 5: This is why me and Doug think maybe Mars Vineyard

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Speaker 7: Which is like the super preppy Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: She's still obsessed with that idea.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me go back.

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Speaker 6: Here's the thing though, she like literally only dates European guys,

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Speaker 7: Know it is Her next house is Lake Midwest Lake.

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Speaker 6: And so that's why I think Nantucket feels more like

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Speaker 5: She's done that personally, Doug, why do you think she's

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Speaker 8: How do you mean do I think the Kennedy bitch

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Speaker 6: Way, you agree with Lily that she's done with Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's less Hyannas. I'm putting words in

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, next slide.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so this is this is me, but me graduating

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Speaker 6: I'm wearing on my graduation.

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Speaker 6: With this sort of weird smile, sort of almost a protest,

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Speaker 6: like I don't want I'm like, I'm like fucked school.

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Speaker 5: But also like, even though you were wearing like flannels

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Speaker 5: it's just it's.

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Speaker 7: Never not.

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Speaker 5: I know, like for some reason you want to be like,

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Speaker 6: I guess I do feel like I was trying to

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, next and final slide in this game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is I know, a how hot are we?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: This is me, my brother and my dad in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: I love it's so cute. I mean this to me

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually do think this is more authentically vineyard

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Speaker 6: because it's like, look at all the joy James Taylor's

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Speaker 8: This is when I was trying to teach you guys

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Speaker 8: to play the comb. You see you're working on it,

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Speaker 8: Eric lost of tooth doing it? Wait to do?

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Speaker 1: What to play?

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Speaker 8: You can't play the play the harmonica, No, the comb,

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Speaker 1: Is anyone else from eighteen o six? Your hand being

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Speaker 1: raised over there. All right, that was incredible. Get it

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Speaker 1: up for my dad, Doctor Douglas Horse.

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Speaker 6: Celebrity book Club, Celebrity book Club.

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Speaker 7: You guys, we're we're gonna read a book.

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Speaker 1: I mean we already read it, I swear.

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Speaker 6: So you know, we love this town. We love Boston,

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Speaker 6: the people from Boston. We thought we would celebrate somebody

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Speaker 1: We thought we would celebrate a woman.

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Speaker 5: We thought we'd celebrate a smith alone. Oh is that

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh oh, Mount Holy. We've got some rivals in town.

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Speaker 1: Watch out, watch get security. Listen.

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Speaker 6: You know her, you love her, she's with her.

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Speaker 1: She's a writer I love or a thinker.

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Speaker 7: She literally invented journaling. And like being depressed.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, sell me.

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Speaker 4: Up, people.

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Speaker 1: Sell the up, la sell me up. Blah blah blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah. Plap flap flap, flap flap flap black lah.

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Speaker 5: When I say early, you say decision, I honestly don't

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Speaker 1: Y'all are literate.

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Speaker 7: That is cool, super literate.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady has a cookbook.

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Speaker 6: Maria Manuno's Boston Native has a lifestyle book that we considered.

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Speaker 5: Samuel Adams has a lot of good like little poems

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Speaker 6: And the zine started a revolution and we were like

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Speaker 1: On a Bridge, emphasis on on abridge Journals of Sylvia Plath.

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Speaker 5: Because you always think like, oh, journals, that's a breeze.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because it's so like they're not trying to like

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Speaker 7: But then here's something about girls.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I will say like Sylvia Plath like invented this,

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Speaker 7: Love to journal.

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Speaker 1: They did love to journal.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I mean Sylvia Ploth now would be a

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Speaker 6: I think it's hard to enter Smith as a straight

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she kind of started that, and she invented that.

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Speaker 7: I thought Sylvia Path.

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Speaker 6: Square on dates with guys that she's like, Oh he's tall,

445
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 6: but like I don't like him, but I do because

446
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 6: he's tall, Like she's being such a modern like.

447
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 5: You know, like she like is constantly getting picked up

448
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 5: from Smith by a guy, and she's so like, oh,

449
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 5: finally I have a date tonight. And she's like leaving

450
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 5: so many like lesbians in the dust, being like, yeah,

451
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 5: Henry's picking me up. And then they drive a full

452
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 5: like hour and a half and like an old Mustang

453
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 5: to like Fenway Movie Theater, and I was like, this

454
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 5: is so us going to see the Sex in the.

455
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 7: City movie at Fenway.

456
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 6: I mean, I have to say, being at Smith in

457
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 6: the fifties sounded really fun and cute, Like there's always

458
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 6: a roaring fire and like a wood paneled pool table

459
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 6: room and like all these girls with their pin curlers

460
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 6: in are just being like, oh, do you have a

461
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 6: date this week?

462
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: And I'm going to study with Warren and Edward.

463
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 5: So Sylvia Palace from Wellesley, I learned so much. Education

464
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 5: is so cool.

465
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: Born in Winthrop, moved to Wellesley.

466
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 5: Yes, So wait, I'm a little confused because I talked

467
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 5: to my mom today and I told her we were

468
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 5: doing this book and she goes, h, good luck seven

469
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 5: hundred pages so depressing.

470
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: Oh, she goes she.

471
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 5: Was born in Winthrop but moved to Wellesy. But then

472
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 5: I went to the Wikipedia.

473
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: She was born in JP. My mom just like, well,

474
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: your mom made that up. My mom's fucking lied, Okay,

475
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: But I feel like maybe she was born at like

476
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: a Winthrop hospital.

477
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, like a women's house in JP. But then she

478
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 6: was raising with up until her dad died. It pass

479
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 6: age a very.

480
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: Traumatic for her.

481
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 6: Then she moves to Wellesley where she's raised, and then

482
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 6: she goes to Smith at regular college age.

483
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: Which she did get.

484
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 5: She got to Wellesley but decided to work her way

485
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 5: through at Smith because she wanted to go to Smith

486
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 5: so bad.

487
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 6: Well, I mean she's, you know, very ambitious, which is

488
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 6: super cool, and like her kind of.

489
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 7: Are you calling going to Wellesley not ambitious? Or I listen,

490
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 7: I don't want to put words in your mouth.

491
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to put the seven Sisters against each

492
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 6: other and like women against each other. But like I

493
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 6: feel like she thought that Smith would be a little

494
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 6: bit more monastic and more like Candlelight manuscript.

495
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: I'm getting my writing done.

496
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, she wanted to like leave where she was from.

497
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 6: Well that too, I guess as someone who went to

498
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 6: NYU after growing up in Newton and then ended up

499
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 6: going to school with like so many people from Newton.

500
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: I was just like.

501
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 6: I need to leave, I need to break free of

502
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 6: these shackles, uh of Newton, right, and ultimately like I

503
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 6: haven't really and that's okay, and that's beautiful because you

504
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 6: kind of can't like escape your lot, which is something

505
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 6: that she's really kind of obsessed with talking about.

506
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 5: Well, and if we get into you know, how her

507
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 5: father did pass early on, I think it very influenced

508
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 5: her horniness, if.

509
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 6: I may, it's a little bit say that, Yeah, I mean,

510
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 6: and she says that as well.

511
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, she outs like that's not a new it's a.

512
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 6: Little like I know, you know, she killed herself, but

513
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 6: it's also like cause of death horniness a little bit

514
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 6: like she was so much of her struggle was like

515
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 6: being a woman at this time, like right before Women's

516
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 6: lib and before things got super fun, when she was

517
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 6: still like, uh, you kind of like have to just

518
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 6: get married, and she's constantly struggling with this just being

519
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 6: like one way to fucking get married. Fucking asshole guy,

520
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 6: but I want him to love me. And all the

521
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 6: other girls are like going on all these dates and

522
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 6: they're all kind of like being bitchy to her.

523
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 5: No, I know, like a girl will come into like

524
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 5: the Smith dorm and like start bragging to her about

525
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 5: like a guy she saw, and she'll be writing her

526
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 5: being like this is so fucking boring.

527
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: So she's like a really good writer.

528
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys know this, but she

529
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 6: has this way where she's just constantly referencing how like

530
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 6: disgusted she is by the fact that, like she is straight,

531
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 6: and she's just be like, I hate having to be

532
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 6: a straight girl. I have too much conscience injected to

533
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 6: me to break customs without disastrous effects. I can only

534
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 6: lean enviously against the boundary and hate hate hate the

535
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 6: boys who can dispel sexual hunger freely without misgiving and

536
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 6: be whole while I drag out from date to date

537
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 6: in soggy desire, always unfulfilled. The whole thing sickens me.

538
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 6: I mean, girl, I mean hello, being on Tinder, anyone

539
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 6: soggy ass desire, You're wet as all hell. No one

540
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 6: can satisfy you.

541
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: I also feel like she's constantly in this state of

542
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 5: like winter dates, and she's like putting on a velvet dress.

543
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 1: This is what's so lesbian about her.

544
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 6: But also just like so kind of smith is that

545
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 6: she's always raining, it's always cold, well.

546
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 5: Like stray girls are like in the past, very velvet dress.

547
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 5: Well there's this crazy outfit where she's ve Yeah. I

548
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: had a date and I was meeting up with like brothers.

549
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: One was a redhead and he was stocky, the other

550
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 5: tall brunette. And then she's like, the redhead I can marry,

551
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 5: but the other one made me deliciously hard in my breast.

552
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 5: She was like, my breasts were so firm for one brother.

553
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 5: So I put on a velvet slax, a velvet top,

554
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 5: and a velvet blaze.

555
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: This is why you're soggy with desire, babe. Yeah, you're

556
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: wedding through all the velvet.

557
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 5: Mint.

558
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 6: You heard of Coco Chann wear something soft and with

559
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 6: freedom of movement.

560
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: But she's been so no.

561
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 6: But I'm like so study vibes, and I have to

562
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 6: be like also being intellectual, because that's also I think

563
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 6: the central tension of the book is her being like,

564
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 6: but I'm a writer girl, and I'm like, well, I know.

565
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 5: It's like I feel like she invented this like horny

566
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 5: journaling girl who like, Okay, I went to high school

567
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 5: with this girl, is she here Rachel?

568
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: Anyway?

569
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 5: Her Rachel makes some noise, very hot topic, like was

570
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: always like little tank top studded belt, huge cargoes, weren't

571
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 5: we all? And her and her like kind of French

572
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 5: boyfriend were constantly making out on the quad.

573
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: Can you say her kind of French boyfriend.

574
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 7: Like he had a French accent, like he was literally French.

575
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: That's so random.

576
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, my high school was half boarding, half day.

577
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if you knew that.

578
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 6: Your high school is, like, even though it's so hippie,

579
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 6: is actually even more like rich vibes because everyone is

580
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 6: so just like a diplomat son.

581
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like.

582
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 5: A mix of just like funky, rich artsy people with

583
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: like less funky diplomat's daughters.

584
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 7: That's what's so crazy about high school.

585
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 5: Anyway, they were always making out and then the moment

586
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 5: like she was in class, like she would do this

587
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: thing non stop writing for all like history of Vietnam

588
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: and I'm like, what, actually could you be journaling.

589
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: About Bess furiously? And yet yeah, what I mean? Sylvia

590
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: walked so that girl could also walk.

591
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so Rachel could walk and kind of like

592
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 6: tuck into her desk and be like, fuck my boyfriend's French.

593
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 5: No, and I'm obsessed with Also, she does this really like,

594
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 5: which I think is like a smart girl thing to do,

595
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 5: but like, who doesn't like want to think she's smart?

596
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 5: Is she? Like on page five hundred of this, she's like,

597
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 5: I'm so fucking stupid. I have no thoughts. All I

598
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 5: want to do is fuck al Braverman. I ate so

599
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: many mashed potatoes last night, and like the suburb dining hall,

600
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 5: I'm stupid. Meanwhile, she's getting like so many New Yorkers published.

601
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 6: No and she has been so like kind of classic,

602
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 6: like up and coming freelancer, just being like, oops, I

603
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 6: just got a piece in Mademoiselle.

604
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: Oh okay this entry tonight. I am ugly.

605
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: I have lost all faith in my ability to attract

606
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 6: males and in the female animal. That is a rather

607
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 6: pathetic malady. My social construct is at the lowest EBB bill.

608
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 6: My one link with Saturday night life is gone, and

609
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 6: I have no one left, no one at all. I

610
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 6: don't care about anyone. And the feeling is quite obviously mutual. Yeah, okay,

611
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 6: drama and I got it. The depression I know, and

612
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 6: then the suicide. But it's a little bit like, Okay,

613
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 6: I do feel she's a little bit like girls of

614
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 6: our current day and age who take Kraton?

615
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: Do you do? You guys know what that is?

616
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 7: No, Craton is very dark.

617
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: It's very dark, very dark, and it's like legal but

618
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: it's but it's a basically heroine. But you can get

619
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: it at a deli.

620
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 6: It's very it's like deli heroin and you're being so like, oh,

621
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 6: I need to clean my house but it's like so

622
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 6: not clean, and you're just like I'm doing so much

623
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 6: creative and like, oh I spilled my creative gatorade. She's

624
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 6: being a little bit that with like the darker stuff

625
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 6: where yes, because.

626
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 5: I actually, honestly she doesn't seem that depressed throughout some

627
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 5: of these journals, like oh, sayah, I agree.

628
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 6: I think like she's good at thinking, yeah, you know

629
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like she's good at, like, you know,

630
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 6: giving some architecture to like the sort of universal thoughts

631
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 6: of alienation that we all feel.

632
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 5: Yes, Mama, I really like related with this where it's

633
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 5: like she talked about the beginning of a school year

634
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 5: and she was kind of like, well, it's being a

635
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: school year. I'll have already gone to the Cape for

636
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 5: four days, done my internship. For what You're just like

637
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 5: who cares once it's all over?

638
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What does it all mean?

639
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 5: And she's like thinking about when your internship is over

640
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 5: and like what does that mean?

641
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

642
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 6: And that's kind of like you can think yourself into

643
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 6: that spiral, like no matter who you are, and no

644
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 6: matter what the ups and downs of your career, maybe

645
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 6: whether or not you are a creative type, or perhaps

646
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 6: you do work in the medical field or what have you.

647
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 6: But like she is, like, you know, when she starts

648
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 6: like getting success, she is like being just like oops,

649
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 6: Like she's kind of like humble bringing to her diary

650
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 6: just being like yeah, no, there's.

651
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 5: A lot of just like yes, I go to Smith

652
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 5: College with seven thousand of the most amazing women in America. Yes,

653
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 5: my story was published in seventeen magazine, Like yes, I

654
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 5: made tea last night, Like she knows she.

655
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: Has like a wait.

656
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 6: Speaking of her success, she reveals the prices that she

657
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 6: got paid for articles back in the day.

658
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 7: No, Carrie Bradshaw, I'll tell you that.

659
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: She's kind of like talking herself up a bit.

660
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: Pats on the back are in order, Okay, Tan tall

661
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 6: not tan also yeah, Tan tall, blondish, not half bad,

662
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 6: and brains intuitiveness in one direction. At least you get

663
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 6: along with a great many different kinds of people under

664
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 6: the same roof close living. Even you have no real

665
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 6: worries about snoppishness, pride or a swelled head. You're willing

666
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 6: to work hard too, you have willpower and are getting

667
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 6: to be practical about living.

668
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: And also you are getting published.

669
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 6: Yes, bitch, you got a good right to write all

670
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 6: you want for acceptances in three months. Five hundred dollars

671
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 6: for Mademoiselle.

672
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, my jaw also hit the floor, Like that's

673
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 9: the same thing I got paid for, like minor magazine strategists,

674
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 9: like things have not I she got seven hundred.

675
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 5: I'm like trying to kind of just make comparison. I

676
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: didn't want to bribe a lot of money. Seven hundred dollars.

677
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah that's like major.

678
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, no nips on me at Blanchard's after this, I.

679
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 6: Got like for Contact, I got paid like six hundred

680
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 6: dollars that last interview article I wrote, And they also

681
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 6: haven't paid me yet.

682
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 5: But we'll all write a group invoice after this circling back?

683
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 5: Do you think people were circling back, but like with typewriters,

684
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 5: and they were like tip tip tip, circling back, checking

685
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 5: in on this period, no folds, envelope, the stamp.

686
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 6: I have a feeling that you were, If you were Sylvia,

687
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 6: you were spending. I mean she's kind of not talking

688
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 6: about invoicing so much in this book.

689
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like you're spending a lot of time with

690
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 5: the post I feel like she has been a lot

691
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 5: of time and she is sitting there just being like, hi,

692
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 5: it's been sixty days, like s receipt of article, like

693
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 5: have not received check in mail, like looking forward to

694
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 5: hearing your response, and like three more months go by.

695
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 5: But I'm also sure that was like such a like

696
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 5: fun ladies activity at smith to like all flock out

697
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 5: in your velvet capes and go to the post office.

698
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, they're like, ladies, it's invoice day.

699
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 7: Amhurst then was a men's college.

700
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 5: Am I crud, Yes, And then they're seeing like all

701
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: these Amherst boys at the post office and it's kind

702
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: of this like flirty.

703
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: Back when the post office was flirty and fun.

704
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: I want to read the most accurate quote here that's

705
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 5: so us about her going to dinner at this guy's

706
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 5: house in Cambridge, Stanley Kunitz, his bright white Cambridge apartment

707
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 5: with blood red burlap curtains and the violent, depthless, red

708
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 5: accented paintings of his new Greenwich village White who called.

709
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 7: Him uh huh bye honey.

710
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 6: She's being like, they're being gross, Like that's the subtext

711
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 6: of this. She's been like, oh, they're being so embarrassing.

712
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, And this is at a point I feel like

713
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 5: she's like booed up with Ted.

714
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: Her husband, problematic husband. Booooo.

715
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 6: Okay, So here's what's in saying that I learned that

716
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 6: you guys may already know. So she did famously kill

717
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 6: herself by putting her head in a stove. The woman

718
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 6: he left her for also did that.

719
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, by stove, wait, by stove, by stove.

720
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: So the Staircase now streaming on HBO Max.

721
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: No, I know, I'm like Netflix doc now that comes

722
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 5: out tomorrow.

723
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

724
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 6: Then this is so also so crazy and sad, and

725
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 6: this is where like depression is genetic. Her son also

726
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 6: killed himself, but he lived in Fairbanks, Alaska, which is

727
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 6: a little bit.

728
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: Like well, and it's like the lighting there.

729
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 5: Her daughter is quite beautiful, though I was looking at picks.

730
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

731
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 6: Sorry, we'll save her down soggy desire over here. The

732
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 6: daughter is into making art about owls. She makes like

733
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 6: owl sculptures or something, or maybe owl paintings.

734
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 5: That's very my dad's companions sons ex wife, stay with

735
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 5: me me who tames falcons and owls in Maine?

736
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 6: I know that she's not part of your non family anymore,

737
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 6: but does she still tame falcons?

738
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: I actually haven't checked in on her because like, we

739
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: don't speak, but.

740
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: You didn't speak that and you certainly don't. I just

741
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: know that wants it to, like really tame this falcon.

742
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 5: She just stared at it for twenty four hours straight.

743
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: That could be us.

744
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 6: Okay, another quote. I love this comebacks to horneous when

745
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 6: like some guy offers her ride. He's like, yeah, there's

746
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 6: gonna be five guys in the car, and she goes,

747
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 6: what could frost my cake more? A ride to downtown

748
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 6: Northampton with five guys and one Studebaker.

749
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 5: Roasted honey, isn't that the ultimate meet you?

750
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 7: And you're like, sure, I'll meet you at Nasset Beach.

751
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then like someone's like, yeah, you can grab

752
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 5: a ride with me, and then like you get in.

753
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 7: The car and there's just like four sexy guys in there.

754
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 6: I feel like that was like our parents maybe like

755
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 6: fear of what our high school experiences were, but it

756
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 6: was just you and me going to Boston coming theater and.

757
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: I like seeing like dirty dancing Havanah Knights.

758
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 7: No, my dad was always like who's gonna be with you?

759
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: I'm just like Steven.

760
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 5: The trouble we were not getting up to the only

761
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 5: time thinks that we're not being frosted, Like I wish, Wendy,

762
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 5: we'll get back there.

763
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

764
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 5: So I guess I didn't get to the part sorry

765
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 5: nine hundred pages where she's saying her husband was bad,

766
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 5: because like in it, she's like also invented being like

767
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 5: horny feeder girl, where she's like, me and Ted had

768
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 5: the best fuck all day long. Then we laid around

769
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 5: and read King Lear like oh God.

770
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 6: With Ted, as I do feel like up until then,

771
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 6: she just like hadn't really had a positive sex relationship

772
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 6: with anybody.

773
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 7: Really, because on one sixty three she's saying.

774
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 6: All right, sorry, there was like the weird guy she

775
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 6: went on the date with and he tries to have

776
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 6: sex with her.

777
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: He's like talking about who's a veteran? That was real?

778
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 5: And he like, is I'm a veteran And she's like

779
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: he was a beach guy.

780
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 6: But then like and then she's like, oh, so this

781
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 6: is what it's like when a man wants you to

782
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 6: masturbate him and it's cold and they're in the woods

783
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 6: and you're just like this cold hand job.

784
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: No, And then he's so disgusting.

785
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: He's like, fine, I forgive you for not wanting to

786
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 5: give me a hand job, and she's like.

787
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Yeah?

788
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 6: Ah, And then she's just like fine, I'm going back

789
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 6: and studying more. And the other girls are like, ooh,

790
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 6: you're not going steady. They were all playing pool by

791
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 6: the fire.

792
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 7: I guess I'll read kind of a solo moment she has.

793
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 5: I have taken to retreating to bed in the long afternoons,

794
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 5: pulling down the blinds and filtering out the light, lying

795
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 5: warm and soft and sexual under the resilient light quilt.

796
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 7: I love masturbating under her quilt.

797
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 5: And dreaming of him and talking to him moister all right,

798
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 5: I work well in hard most of the time. I

799
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 5: am probably at my peak of sexual desire, and I

800
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 5: should not wonder at my smoldering passion.

801
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: So why not?

802
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 5: Because you fool, he doesn't realize how you are transmuting

803
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 5: him in your mind into a strong, brilliant man who

804
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 5: desires you mentally and physically, and being as he will

805
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 5: continue quite aware, unaware of his role, and in your

806
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: mind you cannot expect him to fulfill that role in life.

807
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: She fulfills it herself.

808
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 6: But there's you know, the horniness is such a like

809
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 6: constant trap for her, and I wonder if I may four.

810
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, we should get a degree.

811
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 5: Literally, I'm just like, who's the dean of Harvard right now?

812
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 7: Are they handing out honoraries?

813
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 6: First of all, this Saint Page's sentence is just I

814
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 6: am at Smith explanation point. She keeps coming back this

815
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 6: to be like, fy, not satheth.

816
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: What we've is it? Our dear friend at Smith? We

817
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: were like no, I couldn't believe it.

818
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 6: I was literally just like, it's so many least to

819
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 6: smile and I'm gidding, I can't believe we're out of bodies.

820
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 7: Women's college right now?

821
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 6: She goes, Now there comes the physical part, and therein

822
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 6: lies the problem. And I think this was a little

823
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 6: bit before, like she'd had her first like real rogering

824
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 6: victimized by sex as the human race animals, the fortunate

825
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 6: lower beasts go into heat, then they are through with

826
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 6: the thing, while we pour lustful humans caged by mores,

827
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 6: chained by circumstance, rye, and agonized with the appalling and

828
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 6: demanding fire licking always at our loins. It's so puritanical, massajuicts.

829
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 6: I'm like, there's something in the water here, Like we

830
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 6: were founded by people who came here because they were

831
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 6: like England's not uptight enough for us.

832
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: It's so nice to go.

833
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 5: Be more uptight. And it's like it's still here. Thank

834
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 5: you so much for saying that. Like in fifth grade

835
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 5: during like history, when they were being like oh yeah,

836
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 5: like Puritans came here for religious freedom, like we should

837
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 5: have like celebrated that, but like they came here to

838
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 5: be just like grab your burlap, suck and like let's

839
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 5: make oat. It's like no fun allowed, Let's go back.

840
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 5: Like I'm literally ready to go back with the monarchy,

841
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 5: Like sorry.

842
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: We take it back. We don't want to call an eye.

843
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 5: No, there's something repressive in the dirty water there is.

844
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 5: I thought i'd take a moment to maybe bring out

845
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 5: a journal of mine.

846
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 6: Oh wow, Uh, things are getting really personal.

847
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 5: This is my middle school diary. Some may also call

848
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 5: it a lyric book.

849
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: And it has a fish on It reminds me that

850
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: the fish is because.

851
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 5: They're supposed to be like, oh, like talk to this

852
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: golden fish.

853
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: Oh wait, spill your secret.

854
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 5: So there are kind of like classic entries in here,

855
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 5: but there's also like I dreams of like being in

856
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 5: a punk bin, which I never was. So I would

857
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 5: say basically they are poems. I'll read this little entry

858
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 5: while I put up with this ship.

859
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 6: I mean this could be in Sylvia's journal, honestly, so you.

860
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 5: Look like the one who are saved the day, save

861
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 5: the piece. Don't make me the slacker. They call it

862
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 5: looking in from the outside.

863
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Bob Dylan.

864
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: Clinically I'm an outsider. I think my name goes under

865
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 5: that category. But I think I was always an outsider

866
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 5: looking out the window. I want to get out of here, yeah,

867
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 5: and to another state.

868
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: I want to take the train to another state and

869
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: eat cheap food off of a paper plate. Wait, I'm

870
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 3: so gaged, But that's what I gotta do except for

871
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 3: going to another state. Nausea comes over me when things.

872
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: Not this actually being about you having.

873
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually just me by being like seasick on island.

874
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 6: And it's like you have all this working class stolen

875
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 6: valor that you're just being like, Oh, I want to

876
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 6: be at a diner somewhere, but I get too nauseous.

877
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: On car rides.

878
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 6: So I have to live like in this sort of

879
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 6: like circle of Cambridge intelligensia where my parents are scientists

880
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 6: and therapists and have so many Oriental rugs.

881
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: But I wish I were at a gas station.

882
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 5: Just like I want to be in a fucking truck

883
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 5: stop with old man.

884
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: Eating barbecue in the South.

885
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 5: But here I am at the Bread and Circus parking

886
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 5: lot of the Fresh Bond Mall.

887
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: The artist formerly known as Wow, I mean give it up.

888
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: That was yeah, and that's hard. Celebrity book clubs, Celerity

889
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: book Club.

890
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 10: You know, speaking of difficult things, should we maybe move

891
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 10: to segments? Segment diaries, segment diaries, segment college for.

892
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 5: Women, Yes, segment college for women, segment college for one,

893
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 5: segment college for women.

894
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: What does she eat? What does she wear? What does

895
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: she eat. Oh wait, can I describe? Wait?

896
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 5: She yes, But before that I was gonna say, don't

897
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 5: you think she's like also so Alison Roman Tinfish coated girl.

898
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: Wait, Lily, are you ready for this?

899
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 6: For our first dinner, I planned one of Ted's favorite suppers,

900
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 6: a platter of string beans and fried fresh sardines, which

901
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 6: we had bought early at the fish market, Like she's

902
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 6: so tin fish sure.

903
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 7: And she's been like, actually, sardines are really good.

904
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 6: I kind of think that if she had been alive

905
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 6: during the advent of natural wine, she would not have

906
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 6: killed herself.

907
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 7: Thank you for Yeah.

908
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 6: I think that she just felt so trapped by her time,

909
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 6: in her circumstance, and she was like, I want to

910
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 6: be like a headenist, but like still a little bit

911
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 6: refined and like sophisticated about it.

912
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 7: I think like she would have did a collab.

913
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 5: She could have like written some like homes for wine labels,

914
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 5: and maybe that would have kept her going.

915
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah during the her time.

916
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, So, I think she's super Tinfish and super citrousy

917
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 6: and Mediterranean and obviously she loves going to Europe.

918
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 5: But oh, and then her favorite meal she again, it

919
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 5: was tuna and cream sauce. But that's very Carol, which

920
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 5: is very careful. Wait, we haven't even talked about like

921
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 5: her not being a lesbian.

922
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing that I think. So there's also

923
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: a lot in this.

924
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 6: But she's constantly being just like ugh, like men can

925
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 6: do everything, Like I wish I were a man, but

926
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 6: I'm not a man, so I can't have fun and

927
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 6: I have.

928
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: To get married.

929
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 6: And I do feel like there's this way in which

930
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 6: she is to me and I'm you're totally a thought

931
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 6: to have your own tending on.

932
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 7: This, please, yeah, I know what I can speak for myself.

933
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 6: I do feel like she's kind of a classic girl

934
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 6: who's like a straight girl who should have been a

935
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 6: lesbian and would be so much like happier if she

936
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 6: had been a lesbian.

937
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you.

938
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 5: Were gonna say a straight girl who transitions to become

939
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 5: a man and then is a gay man.

940
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: No, that's not what I was gonna say.

941
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 7: That's only whatever I was going like.

942
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 5: I could see her being like actually he him, and

943
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 5: then like is still married to.

944
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 6: Ted, and it's like so yeah, or maybe is tea

945
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 6: for tea?

946
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: Even Ted actually does seem he's so Ted for Ted coded.

947
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I Ted could get like a little Amy from

948
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 5: Jeopardy Vibe.

949
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: But do you know what I mean? I see the

950
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: way like but I I love that, but I'm like

951
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: that she was crazy. Now we've got too far, you

952
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: know what.

953
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 6: I mean though, where she is kind of that girl

954
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 6: who's like even though if it were modern days, like

955
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 6: she would like go on a date with a woman

956
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 6: or maybe someone in the general greater like fem coded space,

957
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 6: but she would like ultimately be like, I don't know,

958
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 6: it's not working out, like yeah, I could also she

959
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 6: would go back to men, but be just kind of

960
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 6: like upset about it.

961
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 5: And I think she would have like a year and

962
00:51:51,760 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 5: a half queer relationship. And then it's it's like Northampton,

963
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 5: straight wedding, bearded guy.

964
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 7: And like the lesbian x A is going to that wedding.

965
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: Tight best and it's like, no, I'm.

966
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 7: Really happy for Sylvia.

967
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm really happy.

968
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 6: Yeah mm hmm, and like glasses and like spiky but

969
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 6: it's not short, you know what I mean, like the hair.

970
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: And she's just like, oh, yeah, we're good. Yeah. She

971
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: sends me her stuff.

972
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 6: She loves to send me her stuff, and it's kind

973
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 6: of just like, well she sent kind of a moss

974
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 6: email like you were bcced on it.

975
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: But sure you don't think.

976
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 5: They're meeting up for coffee to like go over one

977
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 5: essay after she's married in this fantasy.

978
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: No, I really don't. Just invited to the wedding. Yeah,

979
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: invited to the wedding.

980
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 7: How does she live?

981
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: All right? Okay, it's like uncomfortable in a poet way. Yeah,

982
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: no vintage but not comfortable. Everything's like not where it

983
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: should be, do you know what I mean.

984
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 6: It's like, oh, like a normal portion will put the

985
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 6: kitchen table like you know, under the lamp thing, but

986
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 6: she's just being like, no, that's where I'm putting my

987
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 6: one solitary chair to like sit and read a book.

988
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 6: And then the kitchen tables take in a corner and

989
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 6: it's just like everything's like a little bit stiff, but

990
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 6: it is refined in cheek.

991
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't think she's a hoarder.

992
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 7: I think she also literally is from the mid century.

993
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: So it's so little a little.

994
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 6: It's piles of papers, it's books, it jountled, it's newspapers,

995
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 6: it's pens, it's quills.

996
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: I think she's wine bottle as vas yes, dead flowers.

997
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, absolute dead flowers, and like maybe one of

998
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 6: the kitchen cabinets has like a curtain over it instead

999
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 6: of a door.

1000
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that? Yes, that's such a thing. Okay.

1001
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 7: I also don't think she us that many records.

1002
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that all because she actually like she loved

1003
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: being in New York.

1004
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 6: But then she's like, I need to go back to

1005
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 6: my monastery and my like oil lamp and write more,

1006
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 6: and like she's a little bit not so like.

1007
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 5: Like yeah, she's not writing to Nina Simon, and I

1008
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 5: feel she's like Ted turned the phonograph off.

1009
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to write.

1010
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm on deadline for Mademoiselle. They're paying me our

1011
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 6: entire rent for three months.

1012
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: I'd like to see you.

1013
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 5: Like all he writes like she's like, h Ted wrote

1014
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 5: these amazing fables. I'm just like, oh, okay, well that's

1015
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 5: so him writing children's book, so like the original celebrity

1016
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 5: writing children's books.

1017
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I'm writing for grown ups.

1018
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 5: And he's just like, oh, what if like a bunny

1019
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 5: smoked a cigar?

1020
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: Isn't that hilarious? Sylvia? And then like what's her name?

1021
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 6: Is being like oh my god, Ted you're so interesting

1022
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 6: and somebody's been like fuck your while she's like downing

1023
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 6: cray Tom, Okay, what does she wear?

1024
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: What does she wear? Belt? Velvet.

1025
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 5: She also has this whole I'm not gonna kind of

1026
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 5: pull out the book again, but she does this whole

1027
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 5: thing about how like she doesn't wear flats.

1028
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: But like should This is again maybe a page I

1029
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: didn't read out.

1030
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 5: It's kind of a grab in what you ever finding there.

1031
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 5: But she's just like, oh, I should wear flats, but like,

1032
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 5: I'm not a Bobby sockser because like I feel like

1033
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 5: to be a Bobby soxser to be.

1034
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: Into like pop, what are you saying?

1035
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 7: Sorry, I'm from the past.

1036
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

1037
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 5: Bobby socksters were like does anyone know.

1038
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 7: What a Bobby sockser was here?

1039
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 5: Yes?

1040
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1041
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 5: Bobby Soxsters like girls who are fans of Sinatra and

1042
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 5: they wear Bobby.

1043
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: Sock okay okay, and they're all like little socks and they're.

1044
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 6: Like okay, and like Mary Jane's like yeah, so Mary Jane's. Yeah,

1045
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 6: is she wearing Mary Jane's? I guess is the question?

1046
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 6: Because those are not so they have a little bit.

1047
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 7: Of thine okay. But also rain boots.

1048
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, well, you know what I love is so

1049
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 6: she's obsessed with the rain and there's so many lines

1050
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 6: in here where she's just like every time it rains,

1051
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 6: like there's a thousand new submissions to the poetry board, Like, uh,

1052
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 6: everyone's a poet when it's raining.

1053
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like try writing a poem on a sunny

1054
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: ass day. Yeah, okay, sat, That's what plath life is about.

1055
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 6: Is it like a gorgeous day and everyone's playing with

1056
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 6: hoops and you're just being like.

1057
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: But she is so gloshes for that very reason.

1058
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 6: And she's like in her wellies and calling them wellies

1059
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 6: because she does like Britain and she kind of like

1060
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 6: have an angle.

1061
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: She does spend like all of her Mademoiselle check on

1062
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 5: her raincoat, and she's like, yeah, so I won't have

1063
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 5: any more money to spend, but like I'll be dry.

1064
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,479
Speaker 6: And she's doing that in this like you know, self

1065
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 6: flagellating way where she's just like, yeah, I want to

1066
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 6: run out of money so that I can then be

1067
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 6: like sorry, I'm out of money.

1068
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I have no cash And she's at the

1069
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 5: post office like, ugh, my big raincoat, no cash?

1070
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: Who are you in the book?

1071
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 5: I mean, aren't we just girls at Smith being like,

1072
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 5: who are you going to a date with?

1073
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, we're so picking you up.

1074
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 7: Oh see late, I don't see any like Chevy.

1075
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 5: Chevrolet bel airs out there, didn't you say?

1076
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: Ted drove a Belaire.

1077
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 6: The scene where she like walks into like the common

1078
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 6: house at like Hubbard or whatever, like e and she's

1079
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 6: like and the way their words like became soft and

1080
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 6: swallowed and moved around me, and I knew that they

1081
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 6: were meant for me, the small tiny daggers as they

1082
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 6: spoke of me in my loneliness, Like we are those girls, yeah, agers, Like.

1083
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 5: We are literally a girl coming home alone, wet, and

1084
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 5: we're like, she's so wet, girl like raincoat asked, no

1085
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 5: money coming in wet, can't even come even past.

1086
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 6: Curfew, Like yeah, ultimately we're driving one of the greatest

1087
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 6: minds of the twenty century to suicide.

1088
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: But know, whatever somebody has to I give, huh. I

1089
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: mean I did like what I like reading it, you

1090
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

1091
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 5: And I wonder if I like spent a year with

1092
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 5: this and not thirty six hours.

1093
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 6: Like thirty six hours of unabridged Plath it's a little

1094
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 6: bit intense, like I would have liked to like, I

1095
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 6: don't know see the movie.

1096
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: No, I'm just like, I didn't even see. It's Kirsten

1097
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: Dunt's right, it's Gwyneth Paltrow.

1098
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 6: Oh, okay, who I think is a much better casting

1099
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Speaker 6: terrest than Kirston Dunce. I'm just gonna say he like

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Speaker 6: Duns would not have That would not have worked.

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Speaker 5: I think Duns totally would have worked. Have you seen

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Speaker 5: a phone called The Virgin Suicides?

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Speaker 6: So I haven't, but I don't want to you to

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Speaker 6: bring that up right now at the end of the show.

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Speaker 6: The show you're trying to like call me not having

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Speaker 6: seen the Virgin Suicides.

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Speaker 5: I thought you hadn't seen it. Anyway, let's move past this. Okay,

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Speaker 5: We've had such a good night.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to an.

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Speaker 5: Entire audience against men's awesome.

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Speaker 7: She get to know him.

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Speaker 6: The point is this book is a little bit too

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Speaker 6: unabridged if you if you have to read it in

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Speaker 6: a day, and that's my gripe with.

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Speaker 5: Maybe volumes, that's our note for the editor. Sylvia Platf

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Speaker 5: is like cut it down a bit. Yeah, But at

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Speaker 5: the end of the day, like I do give it

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Speaker 5: four velvet capes out of five.

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Speaker 7: Like she's funny, she's horny.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she goes to Copley for drinks, Like what more

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Speaker 5: do you want?

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Speaker 1: No, she's funny, horny, and she's real.

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Speaker 6: And I think that I would have liked a little

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Speaker 6: bit more like eight sixteen, Like I had a brio

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Speaker 6: she like eight nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I did this.

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Speaker 7: You wanted more short entries.

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Speaker 6: I wanted more like food diary, money diary.

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Speaker 5: No. Our biggest critique is like shorter bitch, Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Reel it in and a little just more numbers. I'm

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Speaker 6: a numbers guy. I'm three STUDI bakers out of five

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Speaker 6: three three point two.

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Speaker 7: And have you ever read the bell Jar?

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Speaker 1: I haven't.

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Speaker 5: I have not, Okay, and that's our show out.

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Speaker 11: This Wicked episode was recorded live a'm Brighton Musical on Brighton, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 11: The episode was produced by Christine Everett She's Awesome Chicks.

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Speaker 11: It was also produced by Dabby Mastis She's Wicked Awesome.

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Speaker 11: The supervising producer was Abuza. Dude, that kid can take

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Speaker 11: down some spiked Duncan's theme song.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Stephen Phillips hot.

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Speaker 5: At work, you know Teddy Blanks, that dude's going to

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Speaker 5: be in the MFA someday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so buy his stuff.

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Speaker 7: Now prolonged projects, Yeah, we created uh kind of this

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Speaker 7: band with them in.

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Speaker 1: The pit in the Square.

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Speaker 5: Drinks were provided by Cappies and uh subscribing Patreon if

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Speaker 5: you got some extra bucks