WEBVTT - Litia’s Looking Forward 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:03.920 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:05.440 I'm Joe and I'm Serena and. 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.920 We are here today with our lovely guest, Lettia. Welcome 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:09.119 to Bachelor Happy Hour. 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:10.200 Thank you. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:10.840 How you doing? 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.800 Thanks for having me. I'm doing well. I'm at work. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.040 I'm in my office, so that's why there's such a 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.239 gorgeous tropical landscape behind me. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:20.040 And what do you do? 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:23.760 I We're going to venture capital firm in Salt Lake City. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:27.600 We invest in tech startup companies, so mostly software. 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.760 Can you give us any good investments? Is that allowed? 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:38.239 We invest in the private markets, so unless you are 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:44.960 an accredited investor, not really Robin Hood. Really that's what 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:45.239 I do. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.120 Okay, wait, you're in Salt Lake City? 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.879 Are you all up in with the Mormon wives and 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:52.680 the housewives and Hake? 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.880 I mean, I mean, I just finished it this weekend. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:03.000 I'm gobsmacked. I'm floored. I'm like eating up every single 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:07.520 second of it, and they like just keep giving us 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.880 more because they're all so online and they're all doing 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.880 their press tour right now, so I'm like gobbling it up. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.400 I love it. I know, I'm so entertaining. It is. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.240 It's really good it's really it's. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.119 The best show. Oh my gosh. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.800 I went to Park City in March for like two 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.480 nights for a brand trip and hey, it's beautiful. Like 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.520 I'm dying to go back, but I really wanted to 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.800 go to Swig, which for those listening is like they're 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.200 iconic soda shops. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.720 And I didn't make it. I didn't have time, but 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:37.479 I had to come back. Yeah. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.800 Yeah, those are yeah, like like soda that they like, 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.080 they like make soda, right, we put more sugar in it, 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.400 more sugar. Yeah, but it's like it's like natural sugar, right, 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:49.680 sugarcane or is it? 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.200 They have the fun flavor. It's like you know, cumps 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:53.800 of stuff. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.559 It's like making like a mocktail, but with only like soda, 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.680 and you had coconut cream and it's like all this 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:00.400 cool stuff. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.800 Well, because if you're Mormon, you you're not supposed to 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:09.359 drink alcohol, correct, alcohol, no caffeine either, right, anything that can. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.639 Be addictive we're supposed to stay away from. So it's 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:16.600 like even like lifestyle like gambling or like, you know, 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.160 anything that is habit forming and kind of inhibits your 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.240 freedom to choose and like your you know, agency we're 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:30.040 encouraged to stay away from. I have for sure dabbled 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.680 and some of the you know, things we're not supposed 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:37.040 to do. I have caffeine, I have my uptimes every morning, 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:42.320 but I try to, you know, do my best. I 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.720 think it's not even a religious thing as much as 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.600 it's like a wellbeing thing. Like I don't think that 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.120 anyone can argue that. I don't think there's any religion 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.120 that encourages drinking copious amounts of alcohol, you know what 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.800 I mean, Like it's just kind of self care, looking 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.280 after yourself. There's science that backs it up. 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.040 So yeah, I mean there's so much now that's coming. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.639 I feel like the especially like the younger generation, is 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.040 drinking so much less because there's just so much more 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.840 on social media that we're exposed to that's showing that, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:13.640 like drinking is like even like two drinks a week 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:15.840 will mess up your sleep. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.600 Yeah, well I have the or ring now and just 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.799 seeing if I have like two glasses of wine, even 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.600 if it's at like five six pm, the amount of 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.800 time it takes from my heart rate to drop to 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.040 its lowest point, which is what you want when you're sleeping, 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:31.519 Like you want that to happen in the first half 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.919 of your sleep, and if you have like two drinks, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:35.800 that usually doesn't happen until like six am. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:36.560 And I'm like, wow, this. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.360 Is crazy because I feel like I'll be like, oh, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.080 I'm stressed, like I'm gonna have a glass of wine 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.920 try to like relax, but it's not actually helping. I 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:45.720 don't know the size. There's just so much more science 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.520 now than their aver hasmen. I feel like round alcohol, 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.120 Oh totally. And those glucose monitors. I want to do 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:51.320 one of those this summer. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.360 To those that they just it's like I think they're 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.120 similar to what people with diabetes. Square at the monitor 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.200 your gluecoast and just see what foods your blood sugar 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.680 spikes too, and like how long it takes your body 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.800 to kind of regulate your glucose levels. 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:08.400 Oh so interesting. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.720 I'm scared because after you learn that info, then you 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:17.080 have to eat when you're like conscious of it. Yeah, exactly. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:19.320 So Like I have a friend who her doctors like 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.479 you might be gluten intolerant, like you might be have 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:23.240 an issue with gluten. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.039 She's like, I won't be getting tested for that, Like 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.320 I don't. I don't want to know. Yeah, She's like, 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.440 I'll just suffer if that's. 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.560 The well, I never eat like I never eat like 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.039 sub sandwiches anymore because I know I don't want to 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:36.360 ever eat lunch eat anymore. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:40.800 I know you're a little extreme sometimes, but I mean, yeah, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.800 it's hard once you learn the information to forget it 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.279 and look past it. Sometimes when you know something's not 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:48.000 good for you that you've like thought is good for you. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:55.120 Should we talk about some Bachelor stuff. How did you 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.599 You had a great time, lovely ending to the season. Now, 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.640 how how did you get. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:03.640 So? I had a friend I don't know if you 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:08.480 guys know Kiki worked on the show. She was a handler, yes, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.640 so much in college? 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.880 Yeah, no way, that's crazy. She was a handler on 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:16.520 my season of The Bachelor. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.760 And then when we're on Paradise. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:22.240 Okay, yeah, she's the best. So I was reminked with 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.039 her in college when she was working on the Bachelor. 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.719 She's like, you got to do it like you would, 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.159 you know, And at the time I was dating someone 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:33.080 or was scared, and so just last summer I was 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:34.920 talking to her and she was like, I mean, you 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.919 should still do it, like you should try because I 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.080 was complaining about dating, and so I was like, Okay, 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:41.599 we'll just send it see how it goes. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.719 Yeah, and then that was that. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.640 Yeah, they were like at the end of the casting process. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:49.720 I think it was like later in the summer, and 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.680 so I feel lucky because I didn't have to wait 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.040 like I think some people applied in like February and 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.680 it's like a long waiting game and you guys know, 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.599 like you don't know that you're going till you know. 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.200 So, yeah, I was in the same boat as you. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.000 I literally applied and was cast like a month later 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.279 and then was like flying out, which was kind of 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:07.880 a blessing. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:13.200 Yeah, exactly What did you think when Grant was announced? 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.960 He was he your type? 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.080 Yeah? I love like tall, goofy bros. Like tall, goofy, 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.719 sporty bros. That's my type. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.120 Well you think Grant gives off goofy. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:28.040 A little bit? 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:33.839 Oh well, that's interesting. See he comes across very serious. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.719 To me when he comes on the podcast. He's definitely 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:37.120 more serious, but I feel like he's in. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:38.839 Like bachelor pr mode. 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:39.920 Okay, totally. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.560 He's not giving off that like playful side. He's like 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:43.640 more cautious of what he says. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.800 I think he's like goofy. I don't even mean goofy 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.240 like like he's like funny with his jokes. I mean 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:53.200 like he's just kind of like goofy, like like his 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.719 feet are too big or like like he's just kind 0:06:55.760 --> 0:07:00.520 of like harmless. I guess, like non threatening is like 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:06.960 like Teddy yeah yeah, yeah, like just like approachable and 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.000 like a normal guy, like he's not trying to like 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:11.960 right uptight. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.280 I don't, I don't. I don't don't like I think 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.000 I think, yeah. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.600 But you're a different kind of goofy. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:20.560 But you know what I'm saying, Like I think like 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.800 Grant just doesn't give me that. But I don't know. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.200 But like if I'm at a bar and I'm looking 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.720 at Grant and I'm looking at you the as a woman, 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:33.440 there's a different approachableness, there's a different energy that's being 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:34.080 put out there. 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.200 I don't know, and I don't know if this really 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.640 came through, but like you, we would be walking somewhere 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.440 and we would have to like stop and like this 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.280 is what we're doing today, or you know that kind 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.760 of stuff. He would blow past his mark every time 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.120 and just kind of like all shut like and I 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:51.920 was I would have to like I'm like, where are 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.040 we supposed to stop? Like okay, and then I would 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:56.040 just do it so we don't have to do it 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.120 a bunch of times or like during my whole little 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.720 space like move and right exactly. Yeah, just like kind 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.000 of so I don't know if goofy is the right word, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:08.480 but just kind of like a yeah, a little bit, 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:09.520 yeah totally. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.360 What was your dating in life like before you went 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.640 on the Bachelor, what was your relationship history. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:19.040 I had had a couple long term relationships. I am 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.160 a relationship girl, So I hate dating. I don't like 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.520 meeting people like in a dating sense, just it's a 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:34.120 lot of pressure and anxiety and so and it takes 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.679 me like a long time to really like be interested 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:41.240 in someone. And so it's I'm typically a slow burn 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.920 type of a girl. Not on the show, but that's 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.000 like how I am typically. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.720 Okay, So you kind of like you like to invest 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.240 in one person if you think it's gonna go somewhere, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.959 really like focus on that relationship. 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.200 Be friends first, and like get to know each other's 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.040 friends and spend time together getting to know each other. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.800 So, like most of us, you kind of like step 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:05.640 out of your comfort zone and you go on this 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:11.920 dating show. What were your biggest reservations before going on 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:15.240 or did you have any? 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:22.319 I mean probably all the usual suspects, like getting canceled 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:26.840 or looking stupid that I was gonna cry, or like 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:31.400 I would have to be in a dramatic situation and 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.560 you know, put in an unflattering light, like I think 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.840 just being observed is. I was just scared of that 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.840 because you know, I like I watch reality shows. I 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.959 see the comment sections, and you know, people are people 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:49.480 are harsh, and you don't really have control over other 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:54.760 people obviously, but then also you know how it's portrayed, 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.880 and even that is different than how people perceive it, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:02.959 you know, So I think that was a new thing. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.600 Like specifically on TikTok this season, it's been a lot 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.520 of people like commentating of like this is what producers 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.160 want us to think, but I know that this is 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.040 what was really going on and stuff, and it's like 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.240 you're wrong, Like that's not true at all. 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.720 Like how could you you were never a producer on 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:21.280 the show. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.160 You never also were on the show. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.680 We're a producer on the show last season? You weren't there, 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.440 Like you weren't there. You don't know what was going on, 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:35.000 you know, Yeah, it's like they're condensing like everything that happened, 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.360 you know, hundreds of hours of footage into like two hours. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:43.120 Of like see speculation where you're like, oh, that's actually 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:43.840 I was different. 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:45.440 I don't know everything that happened. 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.320 Yes, totally, just fear of the unknown. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.880 I'm a planner. I like knowing how things are going 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.480 to turn out, and I can, you know, typically anticipate 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.080 how things are generally going to go, and so that 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.240 was definitely a leap of faith. 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.079 Did you watch the show before you went on it? 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.840 Yeah, Oh, I had seen seasons before. I wasn't like 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.480 a religious watcher. If I liked the lead or liked 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.080 any of the contestants, particularly like I would always you know, 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.480 the first episode is so fun to watch, just like 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.920 what everyone wears and their engineces and kind of get 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.240 a sense of everything and the message, and I keep watching. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:29.600 But I dabbled a little bit before. 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.880 What was your favorite parts or what were you pleasantly 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.520 surprised about once you got on the show, The experience 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:43.559 and like going through it. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:50.600 I think the girls I hit it off with almost 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.959 everyone on Night one and I feel like I got 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.079 closer to a lot of the girls pretty early on 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:02.400 and so and there who you spend most of your 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:07.080 time with. So it was like if I didn't feel 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.240 close to them, or if I didn't have them to 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:13.560 kind of like rely on and commiserate a little bit with, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.720 I don't know that I could have done it. I 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.559 feel like we really looked out. I really lucked out. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.600 I really liked everyone. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.720 Who are you closest with? Would you say? 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:35.880 I'm probably closest with Dina, Serafina, Alex and Natalie. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.800 Oh, yeah, we saw you. Dina and Sarafina were in 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:40.959 Chicago together, right. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:45.520 Oh yeah, with Karsa we went like right after AFR, 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.360 I think, yeah, yeah, it seems like forever going out. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.280 But that was so fun. Yeah, oh that was the best. 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:53.440 Chicago was so fun. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.040 I love it that. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:56.840 It's a good city. Yeah, his hometown. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.559 Yeah, yeah, my friend Oh that's right. Yeah, my cousin's 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.080 actually friends with Dinah, that's right. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.720 I listened to her episode and yeah, I heard you 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:06.560 guys put that together. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:12.440 Yeah, so what has so like? Everybody listening to this 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:18.000 definitely watched your finale and knows what happened what's been 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.280 going on post show? Have you step back in the 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:22.360 dating world at all? 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:29.840 A little bit, not a ton. I've been traveling a bunch, 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:36.720 and I feel like I am up against my same 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.439 issues that I had before coming of just meeting people. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:41.959 It's tough. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.520 You know, are you something that would be open to 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.160 moving for love or are you really hoping to find 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.679 someone in Salt Lake City or would be willing to 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.640 move to Salt Lake City. 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.800 Yeah, I'm definitely open to moving. I think, especially early 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.840 on in our relationship. I just thought that with Grant too. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:06.920 I think it's like very helpful for like a relationship 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:11.000 or like a marriage to be kind of a satellite 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:15.280 and kind of you don't have like it's not lopsided 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.320 in terms of support. I guess that you just have 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.440 each other to rely on. It like brings you closer. 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:21.160 That's what my parents had. My dad was in the 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.680 Air Force, and it brought us closer as a family too. 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.320 So I think eventually I'd always want to have like 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.360 a home base in Utah for which if that's my 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.120 you know, family's house or whatever, that we always are 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:38.040 coming and visiting. That's great. I love Utah. It's amazing. 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.000 I like and I have a good network of support here, 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.040 but I'm definitely open to moving. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.320 Are you Are you in Grant on good terms now 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.600 or is it just like kind of a relationship that's 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:50.400 non existent? 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.640 Yeah, where do you Standwich Grand Juliana today? 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:59.480 Yeah, I don't have a relationship with Grant. I don't. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.200 I think we kind of hashed it all out. I 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.560 don't think there's anything else to really chat about, but 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.480 like I don't have I'm I'm on good terms with him, 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.520 Like I don't have any ill Will like I you know, 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.760 want him to be happy, wish him the best, and yeah, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:17.680 same with Juliana. 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.600 Mhm. Has anything that they've said since the show ended 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:22.240 surprised you? 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:29.080 Oh yeah, of course, yeah yeah again. Yeah, but I 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:33.920 but that's fair, you know, on their part. And I 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:40.440 think I never said anything intentionally with like ill Will 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:46.800 towards either of them. I just was sharing my experience 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:54.600 and they're, you know, they can share their experience. I don't. 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.880 I don't think it has been surprising. I think just 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.000 mostly because it's only been publicly, like there was never 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.880 any attempt to kind of like clear the air privately. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:08.520 But that was just like a good indicator, you know, 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:15.760 to me what our friendship meant, you know, which is 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.960 totally fine. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.680 Yeah, I think it's always like yeah, yeah, I don't know. 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.760 I feel like that's something that people should do, is 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:29.560 like talk privately before air and everything out publicly. But 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.640 you know, everybody moves differently. 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.400 I think too, Like, you know, you can't control the 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.480 questions that you're asked, and I think a lot of 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.920 the surprising things came as a response to a question, 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.120 and I do want to give them a little bit 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.960 of grace because it's their first time navigating it, and 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.080 you know, you don't always know the effect or the 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.480 impact that your words will have in a group of 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.240 people until you know you're in the middle of it. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.720 And so I definitely regret anything that I said or 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:05.359 did that fueled negativity towards anyone, because I think that's 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.400 not that was never my intention, And it's hard. It's 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:13.640 a blurry line, I think now I'm learning this. It's 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.360 a blurry line between sharing your experience and then kind 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.000 of you have to filter it a little bit because 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.360 there are people who will take your words and use 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.439 it as fuel to like spread hate against someone. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.040 You know, Yeah, that's That's that's a good point because 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.600 like even like thinking back to like when I got 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.639 off the show, and like you do these podcasts and 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.800 these interviews and you're so new to it and you're 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.480 and you're also nervous. Like I remember going into so 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.399 many interviews just being nervous and like almost like half 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.600 blacking out, where I could literally have said anything and 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.320 my intentions were never to hurt anyone, but it's just 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:51.840 like more. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:56.159 Like something said with like snark or sarcasm, and like 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.399 that ends up getting taken out of context is always 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.240 possible to but speaking of you know, saying things that 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:08.240 end up blowing up, did you expect your breakup? I 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:12.080 mean your like tone switch and everything in the common now, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.000 Like I have friends that like didn't even watch the 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.000 season that are like out here like quoting you, and 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.080 I'm like, you don't watch the show, and they're like, yeah, no, 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:20.280 it's all over my TikTok. 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.359 It's like icoic that. 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.920 Is no, it's so bizarred. You know, I don't remember 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:29.879 saying it. Like I remember talking to producers after the 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.439 show after we had stopped filming. It was probably like 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.720 a month after filming, and they called me and were 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.000 just talking to it and like they had they were 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.679 obviously in the minutia of like editing the finale and 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.280 all of that, and they kept saying it to me, 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.639 and I was like, what are they talking about. They're like, 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.520 that's such a Latia thing that you could sing that, 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.879 and I'm like, I don't remember ever saying that, Like 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:56.680 I don't remember, but I think the as far as 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.159 the tone switch up, that was like something that I 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:03.520 did not expect, because anyone that knows me very well 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:08.280 was not surprised at all by my reaction. Like everyone 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.680 was like, yeah, that's how that was going to go, Like, yeah, 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:16.959 if she is faced with, you know, that situation and 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:21.479 like those circumstances, like that's exactly how that was going 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.520 to go. No one was surprised then, knows me. 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:26.160 Yeah. 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.520 I guess that just speaks to like, you know, we 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.919 watch reality TV and you really only get to see 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.280 such a small part of people because like, had that 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.040 breakup not happen, like no one would have access to 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.960 like seeing that side of you, and like totally you know, 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.240 it's just that reminder that like you're really only seeing 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.800 how people respond to the situations that they're put in, 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:48.719 and if they're not putting certain situations, you're not going 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:49.600 to see the sides of them. 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.040 You're only seeing like I mean, imagine you're on a 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:57.199 first date with someone like for a lot of this season, 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.440 that's about as much time as you have spent with him, 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.200 you know, and so you want to put your best 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.320 foot forward, but you also want to be intentional and 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.119 make the most of your time. And I think, like 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:09.919 I mean, to be honest, like at the beginning, it 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.040 really is just like rainbows and butterflies because you're so 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.200 like you said, like you black out a little bit 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.400 from like the cameras and the lights in the situation 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.040 and making them out like the you know, the pressure, 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.040 but and just getting to know that person and also 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.680 putting your best foot forward and worrying about being observed. 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:28.760 There's like all those things that go into it. And 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:33.479 so that's, yeah, that's a lot of it I think was. 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.520 And then of course I had feelings and so you know, 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.919 and I like I felt so much like compassion for 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.440 him and like the things that he opened up about, 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.440 and so it definitely brought out like a very soft, 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:52.840 like nurturing side of me because of like the nature 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:54.479 of the conversations that we were having. 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.359 Do you have any regrets from your time on the show? 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:08.760