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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena and.

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Speaker 1: We are here today with our lovely guest, Lettia. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I'm doing well. I'm at work.

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Speaker 3: I'm in my office, so that's why there's such a

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Speaker 3: gorgeous tropical landscape behind me.

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Speaker 1: And what do you do?

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Speaker 3: I We're going to venture capital firm in Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 3: We invest in tech startup companies, so mostly software.

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Speaker 1: Can you give us any good investments? Is that allowed?

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Speaker 3: We invest in the private markets, so unless you are

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Speaker 3: an accredited investor, not really Robin Hood. Really that's what

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, you're in Salt Lake City?

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Speaker 4: Are you all up in with the Mormon wives and

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Speaker 4: the housewives and Hake?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I just finished it this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I'm gobsmacked. I'm floored. I'm like eating up every single

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Speaker 3: second of it, and they like just keep giving us

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Speaker 3: more because they're all so online and they're all doing

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Speaker 3: their press tour right now, so I'm like gobbling it up.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I know, I'm so entertaining. It is.

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Speaker 2: It's really good it's really it's.

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Speaker 3: The best show. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: I went to Park City in March for like two

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Speaker 4: nights for a brand trip and hey, it's beautiful. Like

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Speaker 4: I'm dying to go back, but I really wanted to

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Speaker 4: go to Swig, which for those listening is like they're

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Speaker 4: iconic soda shops.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't make it. I didn't have time, but

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Speaker 2: I had to come back. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those are yeah, like like soda that they like,

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Speaker 1: they like make soda, right, we put more sugar in it,

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Speaker 1: more sugar. Yeah, but it's like it's like natural sugar, right,

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Speaker 1: sugarcane or is it?

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Speaker 2: They have the fun flavor. It's like you know, cumps

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Speaker 2: of stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's like making like a mocktail, but with only like soda,

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Speaker 4: and you had coconut cream and it's like all this

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Speaker 4: cool stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, because if you're Mormon, you you're not supposed to

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Speaker 1: drink alcohol, correct, alcohol, no caffeine either, right, anything that can.

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Speaker 3: Be addictive we're supposed to stay away from. So it's

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Speaker 3: like even like lifestyle like gambling or like, you know,

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Speaker 3: anything that is habit forming and kind of inhibits your

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Speaker 3: freedom to choose and like your you know, agency we're

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Speaker 3: encouraged to stay away from. I have for sure dabbled

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Speaker 3: and some of the you know, things we're not supposed

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Speaker 3: to do. I have caffeine, I have my uptimes every morning,

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Speaker 3: but I try to, you know, do my best. I

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Speaker 3: think it's not even a religious thing as much as

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Speaker 3: it's like a wellbeing thing. Like I don't think that

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Speaker 3: anyone can argue that. I don't think there's any religion

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Speaker 3: that encourages drinking copious amounts of alcohol, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like it's just kind of self care, looking

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Speaker 3: after yourself. There's science that backs it up.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean there's so much now that's coming.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the especially like the younger generation, is

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Speaker 1: drinking so much less because there's just so much more

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Speaker 1: on social media that we're exposed to that's showing that,

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Speaker 1: like drinking is like even like two drinks a week

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Speaker 1: will mess up your sleep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I have the or ring now and just

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Speaker 4: seeing if I have like two glasses of wine, even

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Speaker 4: if it's at like five six pm, the amount of

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Speaker 4: its lowest point, which is what you want when you're sleeping,

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Speaker 4: Like you want that to happen in the first half

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Speaker 4: of your sleep, and if you have like two drinks,

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Speaker 4: that usually doesn't happen until like six am.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow, this.

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Speaker 4: Is crazy because I feel like I'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm stressed, like I'm gonna have a glass of wine

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Speaker 4: try to like relax, but it's not actually helping. I

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Speaker 4: don't know the size. There's just so much more science

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Speaker 4: now than their aver hasmen. I feel like round alcohol,

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Speaker 4: Oh totally. And those glucose monitors. I want to do

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Speaker 4: one of those this summer.

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Speaker 3: To those that they just it's like I think they're

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Speaker 3: similar to what people with diabetes. Square at the monitor

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Speaker 3: your gluecoast and just see what foods your blood sugar

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Speaker 2: Oh so interesting.

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Speaker 3: I'm scared because after you learn that info, then you

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Speaker 3: have to eat when you're like conscious of it. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: So Like I have a friend who her doctors like

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Speaker 4: you might be gluten intolerant, like you might be have

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Speaker 2: She's like, I won't be getting tested for that, Like

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to know. Yeah, She's like,

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Speaker 2: I'll just suffer if that's.

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Speaker 1: The well, I never eat like I never eat like

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Speaker 4: I know you're a little extreme sometimes, but I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's hard once you learn the information to forget it

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Speaker 4: and look past it. Sometimes when you know something's not

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Speaker 4: good for you that you've like thought is good for you.

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Speaker 1: Should we talk about some Bachelor stuff. How did you

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Speaker 1: You had a great time, lovely ending to the season. Now,

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Speaker 1: how how did you get.

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Speaker 3: So? I had a friend I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: guys know Kiki worked on the show. She was a handler, yes,

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Speaker 3: so much in college?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no way, that's crazy. She was a handler on

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Speaker 4: my season of The Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: And then when we're on Paradise.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, she's the best. So I was reminked with

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Speaker 3: her in college when she was working on the Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: She's like, you got to do it like you would,

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Speaker 3: you know, And at the time I was dating someone

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Speaker 3: or was scared, and so just last summer I was

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Speaker 3: talking to her and she was like, I mean, you

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Speaker 3: should still do it, like you should try because I

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Speaker 3: was complaining about dating, and so I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we'll just send it see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that was that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were like at the end of the casting process.

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Speaker 3: I think it was like later in the summer, and

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Speaker 3: so I feel lucky because I didn't have to wait

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Speaker 3: like I think some people applied in like February and

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Speaker 3: it's like a long waiting game and you guys know,

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Speaker 3: like you don't know that you're going till you know.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, I was in the same boat as you.

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Speaker 4: I literally applied and was cast like a month later

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Speaker 4: and then was like flying out, which was kind of

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Speaker 4: a blessing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly What did you think when Grant was announced?

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Speaker 1: He was he your type?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I love like tall, goofy bros. Like tall, goofy,

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Speaker 3: sporty bros. That's my type.

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Speaker 1: Well you think Grant gives off goofy.

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Speaker 2: A little bit?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, that's interesting. See he comes across very serious.

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Speaker 4: To me when he comes on the podcast. He's definitely

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Speaker 4: more serious, but I feel like he's in.

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Speaker 2: Like bachelor pr mode.

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Speaker 4: He's not giving off that like playful side. He's like

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Speaker 3: I think he's like goofy. I don't even mean goofy

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Speaker 3: like like he's like funny with his jokes. I mean

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Speaker 3: like he's just kind of like goofy, like like his

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't don't like I think

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Speaker 2: But you're a different kind of goofy.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, Like I think like

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Speaker 1: Grant just doesn't give me that. But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: But like if I'm at a bar and I'm looking

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Speaker 4: there's a different approachableness, there's a different energy that's being

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Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't know if this really

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Speaker 3: just do it so we don't have to do it

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Speaker 3: a bunch of times or like during my whole little

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Speaker 3: of so I don't know if goofy is the right word,

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Speaker 3: yeah totally.

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Speaker 4: What was your dating in life like before you went

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Speaker 4: on the Bachelor, what was your relationship history.

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Speaker 3: I had had a couple long term relationships. I am

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Speaker 3: a relationship girl, So I hate dating. I don't like

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Speaker 3: meeting people like in a dating sense, just it's a

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Speaker 3: me like a long time to really like be interested

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Speaker 4: Okay, So you kind of like you like to invest

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Speaker 4: in one person if you think it's gonna go somewhere,

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Speaker 4: really like focus on that relationship.

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Speaker 3: Be friends first, and like get to know each other's

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Speaker 1: So, like most of us, you kind of like step

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Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone and you go on this

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Speaker 1: or did you have any?

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Speaker 3: I mean probably all the usual suspects, like getting canceled

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Speaker 3: I would have to be in a dramatic situation and

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Speaker 3: because you know, I like I watch reality shows. I

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Speaker 3: see the comment sections, and you know, people are people

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Speaker 3: are harsh, and you don't really have control over other

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Speaker 3: people obviously, but then also you know how it's portrayed,

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Speaker 3: and even that is different than how people perceive it,

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Speaker 3: you know, So I think that was a new thing.

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Speaker 3: Like specifically on TikTok this season, it's been a lot

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Speaker 3: of people like commentating of like this is what producers

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Speaker 3: want us to think, but I know that this is

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Speaker 3: what was really going on and stuff, and it's like

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Speaker 3: you're wrong, Like that's not true at all.

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Speaker 4: Like how could you you were never a producer on

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 2: You never also were on the show.

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Speaker 3: We're a producer on the show last season? You weren't there,

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Speaker 3: Like you weren't there. You don't know what was going on,

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Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, it's like they're condensing like everything that happened,

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Speaker 4: Of like see speculation where you're like, oh, that's actually

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Speaker 4: I was different.

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Speaker 3: I don't know everything that happened.

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Speaker 1: watch the show loved you. But there's that two percent

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Speaker 1: that you are going to get hate from and it's

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Speaker 1: going to be hard to read. Like it's it's tough.

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Speaker 1: Never really, I think everybody experiences something in their life

443
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Speaker 1: but like not really knowing, like never getting online hate

444
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden You're like, flood, what

445
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: did this person just say about me? Like what is

446
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Speaker 1: this really happening right now? So, yeah, it's it's it's tough,

447
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Speaker 1: so I get it.

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Speaker 4: For I feel like timing is everything, and I feel

449
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Speaker 4: like it's you know, Paradise is always so enticing and

450
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Speaker 4: tempting and it can be such an amazing time.

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Speaker 3: But I definitely have bomo, like I know the tea,

452
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Speaker 3: and I like want to I like I miss you know,

453
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: my friends and all that, but like that's not why

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Speaker 3: you go to Paradise, you know, to hang out with

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Speaker 3: your friends to know the tea. It's you know, you

456
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Speaker 3: need to be more intentional, and yeah, you'd.

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Speaker 1: Be surprised er I would say, that's why about seventy

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Speaker 1: five send the people down there are there.

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Speaker 3: And maybe they share It's like I don't want to

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00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: go through that either, like trying to figure out who's

461
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: here for to be on TV again and who's here

462
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Speaker 3: to meet me and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 4: And so are there any of your friends that you're

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Speaker 4: hoping like ooh I could see her with the sky

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Speaker 4: or any predictions.

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Speaker 3: I think it's hard because I just know online personas

467
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 3: of all the guys. Right, I've never met any of them,

468
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: but Andrew seems really funny and fun like a good

469
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Speaker 3: time and so not to like pit my friends against

470
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: each other, but Alex and Bailey specifically, I think would

471
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 3: both be like I would love to see their dynamic

472
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Speaker 3: with him because it'd be like funny and fun to

473
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: watch because they're both just like silly, goofy, and I

474
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: think that's what I've seen from him, So I'm like,

475
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Speaker 3: I hope that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually we've heard Alex Alex's name thrown out,

477
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 4: but Bailey and Andrew.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a fun prediction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've made some friendships through people in Bachtoration, like

480
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Speaker 1: Katie who was on your season and Charity.

481
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Speaker 2: Well Katie who came down and you did my chat?

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah did your chat. Have you been hanging out

483
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Speaker 1: with them lately?

484
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Speaker 3: I haven't lately. I talked to them pretty frequently, like

485
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Speaker 3: I talked to probably Katie and Charity the most, Very Mercedes,

486
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: all of them, Jess, Gabby, they're all great, Like we

487
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: have some group chats that pop up every once in

488
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Speaker 3: a while. But I Bachelor is good at casting soul

489
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: of girls. I will say that, like all like pretty

490
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: much all of them that I've met I love and

491
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: want to be friends with genuinely. So I feel really lucky.

492
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: That's like such a huge win that I was not expecting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely have you. We saw you. You hung out

494
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Speaker 1: with Kendall Jenner at Coachella. How did that happen?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that was so random. I how did

496
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: that happen? She watches the show, She watches.

497
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: Bachelor Bachelor fans, all the Kardashians, and.

498
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Speaker 3: So we I got invited to like her brand did

499
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Speaker 3: a did a party at Coachella, and I got invited

500
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: and so did Alex and so we were like, oh

501
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 3: my gosh, like we're gonna go. This is so cool.

502
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: We got invited, you know. And then right yeah, and

503
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Speaker 3: then when we were like, I think we were just

504
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: like standing there and Kendall came up to us and

505
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh. And that was the most

506
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: surreal thing totally. I was like, why this is a dream.

507
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: This is like not, this is not real. But yeah,

508
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: she like, you know, had just watched the finale and

509
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: that was insane, and like Hayley was there and she

510
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 3: had watched and that was so surreal. But it was

511
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: also at the time when there was this spike in negativity.

512
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: It was like when everyone was doing podcasts, and so

513
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: I got to ask them about like I was like,

514
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: how do you guys deal with this? This is like insane?

515
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 3: And they gave me great advice and that was surreal,

516
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: and they are then like nicest, most normal people. I can't, like,

517
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: I can't fathom. It didn't feel real because they were

518
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: so normal, Like I felt like they were just like

519
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: a girl that I met, you know what I mean,

520
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: yeah they gave you or no, oh yeah, they just

521
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty. It's funny. They both said it separately,

522
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: like it was in different conversations, but they both said

523
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: don't look at it. But obviously we still see it,

524
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: but don't look at it. So it's just like.

525
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 4: It's usually our advice too, Yeah, just like just don't look,

526
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 4: don't go don't like you it's gonna cross your desk,

527
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: and like, but don't go searching it out because you

528
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 4: will always find something you don't want to see.

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00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: And I think another one is just like, as much

530
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: as you can, don't engage with it, like because it

531
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: just kind of like fans the flames and like breathes

532
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: new life into it, and so obviously when it grows

533
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: legs of its own and it like there's a point

534
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: where it needs to be addressed. But I think like

535
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: as much as you can, don't look at it and

536
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: try not to engage with it.

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00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: Definitely.

538
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great advice.

539
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: So you're you're you're moved on living your life. You

540
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: don't go to paradise. You said you've been dating a

541
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: little bit. What has that been like.

542
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: A lot?

543
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: Like, you know, it's just any d ms, any hobbies

544
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: and the d ms.

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00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, yeah, some.

546
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: What does a DM look like?

547
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

548
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: Like?

549
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: What if you messages?

550
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: What's a guy? What?

551
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: What?

552
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: Why are you When are you engaging in that conversation?

553
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 3: When it's funny?

554
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: Okay, when it's clever, Yeah, like you can tell them

555
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: you give it a little like thought to it.

556
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: It's not just like hey, yeah there was one. My

557
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: favorite one was like I heard that you're into immature guys,

558
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: So that's fun I'm shooting my shot. That was funny.

559
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: Another one like knew my taco bell order from an

560
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: Instagram story that I had posted and he like sent

561
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: it to me and like a few months later, after it,

562
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: and I was like.

563
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, something personalized. Yeah, I like that.

564
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: That can also come across a little stockersh.

565
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: But we just finished there's a line you know yeah,

566
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: and it was like intense.

567
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: To me that. Yeah, the stockersh is like when it's incessant, yeah, yeah.

568
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, or there's like multiple messages that's like if it's

569
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 4: like they keep going.

570
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'm just repeating what you said. But yeah.

571
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: On this podcast where I'll just like repeat something he

572
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: said or like repeat something someone else said and like

573
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: reward it.

574
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: So that's my homework to not do that.

575
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: And by the way, like that only goes for men,

576
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: Like I love it when I hear from like those

577
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: are my girls. Yeah, like oh my gosh, I'm sorry

578
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: I didn't see your other messages like let's chat.

579
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: But yeah it's tally.

580
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: I feel fine.

581
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah I agree.

582
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: And then going into the summer, any any trips planned

583
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: anything upcoming?

584
00:30:59,080 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's next?

585
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to Europe in August and September, so I

586
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: or yeah, I think that's probably when I'll end up going. Yeah,

587
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: I don't have it. I think you're gonna go to Croatia.

588
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 2: Okay, So exciting.

589
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: I always wanted to go there my sister and said

590
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: it was like incredible.

591
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: That's what I think. I think it's fully shut down

592
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: in August, so keep that in mind.

593
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: What do you mean they like close, Well, it's like

594
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: that's all Europe, that's like season. I thought, yeah, no,

595
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: like Europe, Like it's definitely no. I think that's incorrect information.

596
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: I can see like I could see like October like

597
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: a shoulder season season. It's not like coastal for sure,

598
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: but it's.

599
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that doesn't like why would they shut down? I

600
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: could be super wrong, and I hope I am.

601
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: You're dealing with surge pricing and August surge pricing.

602
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice, Yeah, all right, well, Letia, thank you so

603
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 4: much for coming on, thanks for having me of.

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Speaker 1: Course, thank you for coming on, and and thank you

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Speaker 1: to our listeners for tuning in to Better Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.

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