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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem possible.

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Speaker 1: The hours drag and the year's jerk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stunning. And he's bigger than me, which is weird.

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Speaker 2: He's fourteen today.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you're seven foot eight, four hundred and fifty pounds.

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Speaker 2: He's won seventy five. When I was an eighth grade

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Speaker 2: I wrestled at eighty eight pounds. He's almost one hundred

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Speaker 1: Eighty eighty eight pounds. Are you mountain nourished? Should we

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Speaker 2: You know, retroactively, I was a whispy little person.

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Speaker 1: Now look are you towering over the average man.

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Speaker 2: And then my other thing was, since you mentioned the

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Speaker 2: thought that whole thing was over. I don't pay attention

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Speaker 2: But I thought it was over, just or at least

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Speaker 2: at all. People who spend their entire days got degrees

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Speaker 2: didn't think that was going to happen. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: But a friend of mine who got a new super powerful,

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Speaker 2: like the most powerful computer you can get, told me

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, My great grandfather was a bitcoin mind or

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Speaker 2: And I don't even know what that means. And I

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's pretty much just an eye glazing waiting

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Speaker 2: But I mean, like when Ford stock is up. I

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Speaker 2: can't you know. I'm gonna start building some Fords in

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Speaker 2: my garage and sell them. But you can't do that

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Speaker 2: with bitcoin. You start mining some in your garage.

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Speaker 1: It has to do with the computers and math problems

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Speaker 1: and algorithms. Wow, better get in brief brief summary.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, complix, I don't know if there's anything

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Speaker 2: I've ever understood less. I'd rather take a shot at

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Speaker 1: Now, haw, can this be Let's roll up our sleeves. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: next time it dips, I'm gonna buy some. I'm just

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Speaker 1: thank you, sir, thank you. But how do you have that, Michael?

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Speaker 2: Nobody actually knows obviously on these things, or you'd be

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Speaker 2: a trillionaire. But this, this person who's going to mind

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Speaker 1: But I have no idea. Hmmm. I think that's fairly

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Speaker 2: Be people's People can and do lose money.

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Speaker 1: So those were your two comments. May press ahead.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that kind of interesting though? And then I'll be

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Speaker 2: done that. The Wall Street analysts who dedicate their lives,

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Speaker 1: Got an email from a guy who's totally into this,

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Speaker 1: who says, yeah, the Wall Street guys don't know, but

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Speaker 2: It'd be the first time I invested in something and

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Speaker 2: What did you buy? I don't know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? How about pop stars? Jack? Do you understand what

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Speaker 1: Well kind of, sort of. Theoretically, JKBX pronounced Jukebox open

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Speaker 1: Well, that would be it if it was like they

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Speaker 1: a big deal. But I've often thought you actually, I

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Speaker 1: I wish you could buy stocking people, whether a band

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Speaker 2: I got a tutor for my son. That's like that.

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Speaker 2: It's just like you, You've got going to be successful

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, if you decide to be a brain surgeon.

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Speaker 2: Right, So I kind of thought that the whole bitcoin

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Speaker 1: As a hammer? Boo flat lined?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever get into NFTs? Katie m our ro

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. Nobody does, and it's stupid. And

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Speaker 2: I remember, so he had a picture of what was

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the board eight with a yacht hat on.

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Speaker 1: Or tired ape or flaccid ape or whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: And I don't care because it's stupid.

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Speaker 2: I got it. And I didn't pay anything for its

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Speaker 2: exactly the same, no, no, no, no, mine is real

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Speaker 2: yours is not, Sayszo, what does that even mean? So

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Speaker 2: I never quite understood it. It made sense. And he was

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Speaker 2: I mean you could make money and you know, see

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Speaker 2: the Tulip crash. I mean you can get make MC

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Speaker 1: Katie's given us a what the hell looks? So he would,

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Speaker 1: for instance, buy the exclusive rights to own NBA films

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Speaker 1: and so that official highlight, he would own the NFT

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Speaker 1: of that. Now you could see it on ESPN twenty

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Speaker 2: Sports. He was making he was making low four figures

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he means six grand on one that he he

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Speaker 3: why I don't naked speculation? Okay, Well, the only the

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Speaker 3: NFT that I remember was do you guys remember Madonna's

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Speaker 3: where she had like earth growing out of her oh China?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, that was the only NFT that caught

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I always use the example in its favor,

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Speaker 2: even though it didn't work. This way was like with art.

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Speaker 2: You know, you've got the actual painting and then you've

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Speaker 2: got a a duplicate of the painting that is I

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Speaker 2: can't tell, but it's worth nothing for some reason. And print, yeah,

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Speaker 2: a print, and then sometimes you have the one of

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Speaker 2: five hundred prints they have some value. Yeah I don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a thing because I know some artists and

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Speaker 1: photographers who do that, and they're like, they are incredibly

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Speaker 1: hardcore that I am printing five hundred of these period

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Speaker 1: and then I am destroying the negative. That's the way

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Speaker 1: you create value. But you're so right. The idea that

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Speaker 1: that would cost me forty two million dollars. Or I

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Speaker 1: could get that for two thousand dollars instead of forty

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Speaker 1: two million. I mean, it's just it's a bit of

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Speaker 1: a it's an interesting facet of human behavior.

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Speaker 2: Books is a good example that I used first edition,

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Speaker 2: But it's just that's just words on paper. I mean,

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Speaker 2: so now you're you're just excited that this particular stack

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Speaker 1: But why I know, I have been in a wrestling match.

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this publicly with myself for years now.

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Speaker 1: I want very much to buy a first edition copy

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Speaker 1: of Dickens a Christmas Carol, because it's one of my

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Speaker 1: But then I say, what good would that do you?

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Speaker 1: You could tell people you have it, and that makes

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Speaker 1: you look cool, or it solidifies that you cherish this

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Speaker 1: work of art. That's not a terrible motivation, but I

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Speaker 1: I can afford it. It's expensive, but I can afford it.

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Speaker 2: But it's in the NFT's lane of somewhat imaginary value.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like with the NFTs, it's it's not

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Speaker 3: something like with the first edition book, you're holding kind

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Speaker 3: With this NFT, I mean, no knock on positive shamp.

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Speaker 3: But if he could pull it up and show you

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Speaker 3: pretend I have it too. Check this out. I don't

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Speaker 3: get the value, uh right or h well, it didn't work,

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Speaker 3: you know, regardless it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: I think we have, at the end of a long

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Speaker 2: And that was part of whole Andy Warhol's entire art

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Speaker 2: career was like mocking the blur between those things.

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Speaker 1: Elaborate please, I love that.

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Speaker 2: To make he'd make he'd make make copies of things

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Speaker 2: and just like, why is this worth anything, and he

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Speaker 2: would send one of his best one was he'd send

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Speaker 2: lookalikes to give speeches at colleges, and nobody'd tell the difference.

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Speaker 2: It's like, so, what difference does it make if it's

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Speaker 2: really me or not? I mean, so, what's the value

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Speaker 2: that looks like me and say what's the.

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Speaker 1: And satisfy you all of this?

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Speaker 2: What does it? Any of it mean?

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Speaker 1: You know, I've got to read that book that you

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Speaker 1: read about him. What was it called Moby Dobe Dick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I win.

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Speaker 1: I got there first. What was it? Do you remember

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Speaker 1: the name of it?

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Speaker 2: No, I could Andy Warhol?

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Speaker 1: What a car, what a guy? You know. My twelfth birthday,

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Speaker 1: I still remember this. My grandma she decided to give

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Speaker 1: me a different gift.

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Speaker 3: It was shares of this stock called Apple and Microsoft,

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Speaker 3: and I just you know.

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Speaker 2: I sold it for fifty dollars.

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Speaker 1: He used DVD player.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he used it, the DVD player. Good investment anyway, Well,

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Speaker 2: I guess that's it.