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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, do we have a Monday show? Baby? Here

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Speaker 1: we go. We're live. We're in Chicago. They win football

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Speaker 1: playoff games in this city. Baby, It's the Herd. Wherever

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Speaker 1: you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: making us part of your day. The city is buzzy,

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Speaker 1: should be. I got to be honest, I'm so glad

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Speaker 1: Philly lost that their tushes got pushed out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Because the NFL playoff for about the best coaches and

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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks, and Philly has neither. They don't have either.

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Speaker 1: Bottom line is, let's talk Niners from the opening drive

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Speaker 1: to the perfectly time trick play, to their ingenuity to

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Speaker 1: their efficiency on third down. Kyle Shanahan is using c

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Speaker 1: pons and buying a month full of groceries for forty

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Speaker 1: eight bucks, and I feel like Sirianni hit the lottery

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Speaker 1: and he's broke two years later. San Francisco is totally resourceful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about this, Nick Sirianni gets two picks,

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Speaker 1: a twenty seven yard punt by the Niners. George Kittle

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Speaker 1: gets hurt, You're at home, and this year in the

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Speaker 1: second half, all year, Philadelphia averages nine points in the

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Speaker 1: second half, including the playoffs, twenty six in the league,

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Speaker 1: twenty six and second half yards. There's no creativity, and

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Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia, like a poorly coach team, is getting

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Speaker 1: worse over time. I mean, I'm the one thing I'll

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Speaker 1: say about Philly is that their run defense was great,

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Speaker 1: But that's Vic Fangio. Everything I liked about the Eagles

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Speaker 1: was Vic Fangio. Think about this. San Francisco's six highest

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Speaker 1: paid players missed sixty percent of the snaps. How in

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Speaker 1: the hell are they thirteen and five? How are they

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Speaker 1: winning these games? And I've been critical of Brock pretty

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Speaker 1: but you know what, short memory, couple of bad picks,

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Speaker 1: one really bad, did not matter, great final drive, big throws,

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Speaker 1: didn't have George Kittle second quarter on didn't always have

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Speaker 1: the greatest protection. There was pressure, And let's be honest

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Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurts. He's pretty consistently ineffective in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: Greg Coseal's been telling us us for years. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: on the broadcast sedit, why are you rolling out? He's

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Speaker 1: rolling out because he can't see because he's too small.

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Speaker 1: And so again that playoffs to me are about Shanahan

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Speaker 1: and Robert Salah. I mean, Shanahan's a wizard. That opening drive,

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Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa was that? And

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Speaker 1: that trick play wasn't like a hooking lateral in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. That's a big boy trick play reverses receiver

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Speaker 1: throwing deep. For three and a half hours, you saw coaching.

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Speaker 1: Whenever a coach makes like fifteen million a year, people

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Speaker 1: are like, WHOA, coaching's overrated. Exhibit A of why it's not.

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Speaker 1: That was a coaching mismatch. One coach was chat GPT

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Speaker 1: and the other was Crayons. That wasn't even close. So

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are boring, They're not creative. They've got an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable roster, but forty percent of their drives yesterday, we're

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Speaker 1: three and out. They Philadelphia led the NFL in percentage

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Speaker 1: of three and outs. How A J. Brown, Devon day Smith,

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Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, sa Quon Barkley, Get out of here, Get

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Speaker 1: that tush pushed out of here. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about Sirianni.

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Speaker 3: Boy.

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Speaker 1: He's great in the locker room. He is great putting

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Speaker 1: a fence around this team, he barketed A. J.

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Speaker 1: Great again on the sidelines. Come on, you got to

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Speaker 1: grow up at some point. So I just to me,

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Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs are about quarterback play, efficiency, ingenuity, overcoming, resourcefulness,

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Speaker 1: and that all came outside of Vic Fangio from one side.

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Speaker 1: So and I don't want to hear about what a

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Speaker 1: great manager he is. I don't buy it part of managing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you staying what you want about certain coaches

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Speaker 1: in this league. But a lot of the top offensive coaches,

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, their teams are great

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. That's what they are. All I

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Speaker 1: know is the better quarterback play, the better coaching, the

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Speaker 1: better coordinating, the more creativity. Was all on San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Forty four year old Philip Rivers five years out of

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Speaker 1: retirement face this same San Francisco defense. You saw it

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Speaker 4: And forty four year old Philip Rivers had more points,

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Speaker 4: passing yards and was better on third down than Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurts Nick Serian, he was against this Niner defense.

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Speaker 1: How is that possible? It's possible because the best coaches

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Speaker 1: change outcomes, not just field position. That was Wizardry Shanahan

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Speaker 1: put on a clinic. Sala put on a clinic with

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Speaker 5: Proud of the guys, how hard they battled, And let's

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Speaker 5: just kind of staying in there. Having two linebackers weren't

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Speaker 5: on our team a month ago, and those guys playing

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Speaker 5: that whole game and playing at a high level was

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Speaker 5: so impressive. To find a way to win that game.

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Speaker 5: We thought it would be a grimy game, is how

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Speaker 5: we say it. There was our defense allowed it to

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Speaker 5: be that way. And then you know that last drive.

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Speaker 5: You know some of the places Juice made on it

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Speaker 5: I thought were so big on Brock had a couple

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Speaker 5: of mistakes, obviously with his two picks and stuff. But

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Speaker 5: to come back on that last drive, get us an

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Speaker 5: end zone, lead us all the way down there. It

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Speaker 5: Real proud of the guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've defended Darnold's bad pick, Stafford's bad picks.

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Speaker 1: I've got to be fair. What do you do after

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Speaker 1: the pick? You go into a shell to body language,

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Speaker 1: get bad brock party on the road, no kiddle, lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure and they weren't getting a lot of yards

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Fangio did a great job, great run defense. Iny,

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Speaker 1: I know Jennings may have had the best throw of

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Speaker 1: anybody on the field, but that is what coaching looks like. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Bears, So I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying the pope being from Chicago is why the Bears

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Speaker 1: are winning. But there's a there's a correlation causation thing

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Speaker 1: we need to discuss because I don't seventh win after

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Speaker 1: trailing in the fourth quarter. And when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, I've gotten to the point where I just

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Speaker 1: I not that I want to be like a ice

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Speaker 1: cream for breakfast parent, but it's hard scolding him, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know it's completion percentage is.

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Speaker 3: A little low.

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Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, Well, you know he does miss some layups. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but just see the ones in the end. It's got

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Speaker 1: a Steph Curry vibe. I don't want anybody in the

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Speaker 1: NBA shooting thirty four footers accept Steph Curry when he's

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Speaker 1: on a heater. And then it's like, well, he's different

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Speaker 1: rules for him. I feel like with Caleb, look at

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Speaker 1: this throw, it's just different rules. I mean, the guy

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Speaker 1: at the lowest completion percentage of any playoff quarterback, yet

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Speaker 1: the most passing yards. What do you want me to do?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bend some rules. You know. You hear about

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Speaker 1: all the time these gifted kids, you know, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: they can be really unique personalities. And it's like watching

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Speaker 1: the Gifted Child where Okay, he puts his pants on

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Speaker 1: backwards at twelve, but he's taking advanced calculus at thirteen.

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Speaker 3: What do you want me to do?

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Speaker 1: He's different. Caleb's special I heard all the scouts. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know he's moody a little bit. Well, he can

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Speaker 1: beat erratic, yeah regularly. Well, the fingernails painting. He's a

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Speaker 1: little emotional. Not the end of the world. All I

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Speaker 1: know is I'm watching these fourth quarters and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: it's Steph Curry. I don't want anybody else shooting it.

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Speaker 3: I don't want.

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Speaker 1: Anybody else with a fifty seven percent completion percentage over

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Speaker 1: the course of a season. But I'm gonna live with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm supposed to do that second half.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he made he made Jordan Love, really talented guy,

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Speaker 1: look incredibly pedestrian. I said it last night in my podcast.

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Speaker 1: Is a little John Elway, there's a little Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of Caleb Williams. And here's the thing

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Speaker 1: all great quarterbacks. When people say, well he's got Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson did not have his best performance. I thought

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleu out coached him, especially in the first half,

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Speaker 1: which is the coach's half. Second half is the baller half.

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Speaker 1: First half, the coaching half, half, the scripted half. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think Ben Johnson had a very good game. By

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson Sandard, I think a little desperate, a little

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Speaker 1: too cute too often. But every so when people say

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Speaker 1: well Ben Johnson's been special, I'm not denying that. Akee

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Speaker 1: benet Jimmy Johnson fouts had Airic Coriel, Brady, Belichick, you know, Montano, Walsh,

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Speaker 1: everybody's got Marino, Shula, lay Shandy. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear about that because I didn't think Ben Johnson had

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Speaker 1: one of his better games. But I will say this,

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Speaker 1: every quarterback also has flaws. Manning didn't have a huge arm,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and his mechanics. Tom Brady not a great athlete. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Caleb miss too many layups.

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Speaker 1: Man That ball sales on him. Yeah, but it's what

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Speaker 1: your flaw. I mean, Jimmy Hendrix had to occasionally miss

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Speaker 1: got to be about the ceiling. And I'm sitting there

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Speaker 1: watching him in the fourth quarter. And you know what's

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Speaker 1: great if you're from Chicago, the Bears finally have real leadership.

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Speaker 1: Monday through Friday it's Ben Johnson, and Sunday it's Caleb

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Speaker 1: and Popelio. Because I don't really know exactly how to

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Speaker 1: explain it that Caleb can really be out of sync,

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Speaker 1: missus notes in the first half and then be a

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Speaker 1: combination of the greatest stuff I've ever seen. In the

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Speaker 1: fourth here's Caleb after.

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Speaker 3: We got right here.

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Speaker 6: Hartwayolon, where everything he's done for us as a coach,

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Speaker 6: everything the other coaches I've done for for us, you know,

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Speaker 6: and it started with him with bringing in everybody and

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Speaker 6: the emotion of that right.

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Speaker 7: And for me personally, for me.

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Speaker 6: Personally, he's been uh sake, geting emotional for me personally,

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Speaker 6: he's been monumental in my life so far to his

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Speaker 6: first playoff win level.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's that Caleb guy. He's getting very emotional. How

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Speaker 1: do you not get emotional? I'm watching it on television.

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Speaker 1: I'm emotional. I just moved to Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I'm emotional.

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Speaker 1: How do you not get emotional this stuff? I mean

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Speaker 1: it's video game stuff. That throw he made with five

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Speaker 1: minutes left up the sideline, three packers around him. I'm

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Speaker 1: never say anything like that. I mean that that is

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Speaker 1: a top four or five throw of my life, Like

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at this throw.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense, rolling right, throwing left.

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Speaker 3: Huh, I don't bull get in there.

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Speaker 1: We got it from this few that doesn't even make sense.

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Speaker 1: That again, that's one of those videos of Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: before the game, when he's going into the tunnel and

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Speaker 1: makes a seventy five footer, You're like, oh, that's gotta

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Speaker 1: be AI. That throw looks like AI. I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what to make of it. All right, we got

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Speaker 1: everybody watched to get rid of Matt Lafleur. I think

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Speaker 1: you're out of your mind, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, top

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Speaker 1: It was a bloodbath. Couldn't pick a game to save

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Speaker 8: Got screwed by coaches, kickers, you name it. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 8: I thought. I still can't get over this. Packers lost, Colin.

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Speaker 8: I mean total domination. Twenty one touchdown, touchdown, touchdown to start.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to fire la floor, but man, I

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Speaker 1: They just they can't put you.

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Speaker 3: They're beyond themselves right now. How do you?

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Speaker 1: I'm Jordan Love was incredible in that game.

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Speaker 8: Four touchdowns, three hundred yards, the Matthew Golden touchdown, not thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Matthew Golden has been banged up

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Speaker 8: He just regarding tonight Colin. Fortunately one of us will

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Speaker 8: I have no Maybe it ends in a tie. That possible.

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Speaker 1: So we got great another with four for four until

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Speaker 1: Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and coming away Where

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Speaker 1: Colin was right, Well, I said it in October. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Sala put on a clinic Philadelphia forced into multiple three

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Speaker 3: That is coaching where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Bills, despite being completely riot reliant on one player,

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Speaker 3: That's why where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Nick Seriani, I've always thought his winning is a reflection

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Speaker 3: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Justin Herbert defender. But two fumbles, three points,

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Speaker 1: I think Shadoor Sanders has improved. I don't know. Somebody

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Speaker 1: I didn't see John Harbaugh getting fired coming at all.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen years in the NFL, so a lot of times

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Speaker 1: So it is weird how uneven the Bears offense can beat.

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Speaker 10: Both these quarterbacks are really good at playground ball. That's

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Speaker 10: Let's talk about this moment. Let's be a teachable moment

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Speaker 10: This mindset that doesn't matter what the scoreboard says. It's

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Speaker 10: So I just think the Bears hit a home run,

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Speaker 10: This young quarterback has improved every single week, and I

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Speaker 1: They don't go get older players. Players given a choice

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Speaker 1: I think Matt's a good coach. When you look at

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Speaker 10: I think fundamentals probably slipped a little bit this year.

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Speaker 10: I love, and that's coach. I'm kind of like just

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Speaker 10: a you know, CEO. I want to be in there

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Speaker 10: with the guys coaching. And that's why he jumps ship

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Speaker 10: late to go to Green Bay and you know, coach again,

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Speaker 10: you see what he's done. So give him a healthy

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Speaker 10: Micael Parsons with an offseason, and I think this team

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Speaker 10: can be right.

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Speaker 7: Back in it.

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Speaker 10: But halflee, you know, he might say, I'll be head

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Speaker 10: coach of a pro team. There's no nineil and all

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Speaker 10: that craziness transfer portal. But if they can keep him

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Speaker 10: in the building, plus Lafloor. I think they got a

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Speaker 10: great thing going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so do I.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I think what San Francisco has been doing unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I mean I really do. Once Kittle got hurt, I'm like, Oh,

446
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Speaker 1: they were playing so well, the trick play, the opening drive,

447
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Speaker 1: third down. I mean, I'm sure this happened to you

448
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Speaker 1: sometime in your career, Matt, where you lost a left tackle.

449
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Speaker 1: You know, you're banged up. You go on the road

450
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Speaker 1: and you know, maybe it's home Grin, whoever it is,

451
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Speaker 1: and you just are resourceful and in a weird way,

452
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Speaker 1: everybody plays over who they are because everybody knows they

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Speaker 1: have to play over who That's what I felt like.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco is like, guys, we all have to play.

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Speaker 3: Our a game.

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Speaker 1: We don't nobody can just you know, you can't drop

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Speaker 1: a pass. What did you make of the Niners performance?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they've been incredible all year given the adversity that

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Speaker 10: they've faced.

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Speaker 7: And you know, you mentioned George Kittle, and.

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Speaker 10: Like, I think the easy thing to do would be

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Speaker 10: to quit on this team once again. Everybody's already like

463
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Speaker 10: left them for dead numerous times this year. But I

464
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Speaker 10: think the easiest easy thing to do and say, oh,

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Speaker 10: they're going back to Seattle offensively. They struggled against Seattle

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Speaker 10: with you know, Kittle or sorry with you know, without

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Speaker 10: this kind of like bad.

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Speaker 7: Breaking news or whatever.

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Speaker 10: But I think this is a team that's going to play.

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Speaker 7: For their guy.

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Speaker 10: If there's a there's one player on that team that

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Speaker 10: I feel is like the heartbeat of that team, and

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Speaker 10: there are many to choose from.

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Speaker 7: I think Kittle's that guy.

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Speaker 10: He plays the game the way that it's supposed to

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Speaker 10: be played, kind of gronk esque, if you will. And

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Speaker 10: so like again, I think rock Birdy's super underrated. I

478
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Speaker 10: think he's great.

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Speaker 7: Kyle Shanahan, when Kittle went out, he.

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Speaker 10: Basically said, this is going to be a running back

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Speaker 10: game plan the rest of the night. It's going to

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Speaker 10: be Kyle Huschek and Christian McCaffrey, and.

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Speaker 7: We're going to do it that way.

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Speaker 10: And oh, by the way, Juwan Jennings, who was a

485
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Speaker 10: great high school quarterback, We're going to use a trick

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Speaker 10: play with you and you know Jennings just fun fact

487
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Speaker 10: he was rated ahead of Lamar over Burrow, over Sam

488
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Speaker 10: Darnold coming out of high school, and so Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 10: It's not so much what you what we can't do,

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Speaker 10: but it's what we can do. And I think that's

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Speaker 10: what he's done with his with his guys offensively, defensively,

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Speaker 10: guys like Kendricks, you know, just it's been impressive.

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Speaker 7: And I don't think they're done yet, not necessarily.

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Speaker 1: So. I think one of the things I watch when

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Speaker 1: I watch football, you can see coaching, Like the opening

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Speaker 1: drive for the Niners. You're like, oh, that was that

497
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Speaker 1: was magical. That was beautiful. They obviously saw weaknesses and

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Speaker 1: attack them. When I watched Philadelphia, I don't see like

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Speaker 1: halftime adjustments. Offensively, they average nine points in the second half.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they are offensively. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: the old there's the old saying it's not about who

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Speaker 1: has the best players, it's the best team, right, And

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Speaker 1: there's also a saying it like, it's not just calling plays,

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Speaker 1: you know plays, it's got to be complimentary football. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what Philadelphia's offense is. Do you watching that?

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Speaker 1: What is their offense?

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Speaker 10: Well, they're probably going to get a lot of shade

508
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Speaker 10: from people like you know, on social media because they

509
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Speaker 10: like to repeat plays. And I can just tell you,

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Speaker 10: as a quarterback, I never had a problem repeating a

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Speaker 10: play like Mike Hongrin's probably one of the greatest called

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Speaker 10: play callers of all time, and he would the same

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Speaker 10: play often and the ball would just go somewhere else.

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Speaker 10: So I don't have a problem with that personally at all.

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Speaker 10: But I do have a problem with identity. And you know,

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Speaker 10: to me, the identity of this team has to go

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Speaker 10: through Saquon. You know, the last five games, Saquon was

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Speaker 10: pretty darn good. But it just this team, for some reason,

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Speaker 10: feels to me a little bit like when Seattle there

520
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Speaker 10: was this push inside the building, like the let Russ

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Speaker 10: Cook movement, if you will, and like, hey, this quarterback,

522
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Speaker 10: he can be like Dan Marino. Dude, you don't need

523
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Speaker 10: to be like Dan Marino. Just be you you You

524
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Speaker 10: are really really good. And I'm not saying Jalen is

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Speaker 10: pushing that at all, but I think what what the

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Speaker 10: Eagles had been doing in the past was so so good,

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Speaker 10: and what they've been doing I would say for the

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Speaker 10: last like year and a half, it just feels like

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Speaker 10: they're trying to be something that they're not, and.

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Speaker 7: So, you know, whatever they wanted to be, like, go

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Speaker 7: be that.

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Speaker 10: But to me, Saquon's got to be a part of it,

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Speaker 10: and that physicality upfront that needs to be a part

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Speaker 10: of it as well.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, Buffalo is it's just crazy. I asked all week,

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Speaker 1: how's Jacksonville. I've watched the whole season. Jacksonville's better than Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, about an hour in, I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is just this is what it is. Maybe jackson

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Speaker 1: got a little bit tight, but I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there is We said this with Caleb. I

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Speaker 1: feel that with Josh Allen he feels free. He feels

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Speaker 1: a little freer in the second half. It's a looser offense.

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Speaker 1: And I do think that's the hard part about coaching.

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Speaker 1: When you get this like Lamar's first three or four

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Speaker 1: years in the league, it's like, Okay, there's some things

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Speaker 1: all coach and some things I'm like, bro, go do

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Speaker 1: you how much do you think when you watch Josh

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Speaker 1: in these moments in the second half his scheme is

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Speaker 1: design is a little bit of hey man, we're going

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Speaker 1: to give you a couple options.

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Speaker 2: You do you.

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Speaker 7: Well, for sure.

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Speaker 10: I mean, and people played Josh Allen differently, So like

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Speaker 10: you know, when I would study film, I would kind

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Speaker 10: of have a good set of how people were probably

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Speaker 10: going to play us. You know, maybe not always because

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Speaker 10: we you know, Homegren was a little bit old school

558
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Speaker 10: how we did things. But there's certain players that people

559
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Speaker 10: just play you differently because of who you are, not

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Speaker 10: the scheme. And that's Josh Allen, Like he literally is superman,

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Speaker 10: Like if the MVP was really just the MVP, not

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Speaker 10: like whose team was the best and you had the

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Speaker 10: best stat Like.

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Speaker 7: Josh Allen's the MVP. He is that guy.

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Speaker 10: He can put a cape on and carry his team.

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Speaker 10: He's done it year after year. So yeah, does he

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Speaker 10: play better in those moments.

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 7: I do think that's true.

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Speaker 10: But it's also because he's sparring for a little bit,

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Speaker 10: trying to figure out, Okay, what's your plan for me today?

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 10: And I think you saw that on the Brandon Cooks

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Speaker 10: play that he hit him down when the corner's trying

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Speaker 10: to trap the out route. I think you see it

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Speaker 10: in some of the quarterback run game. But this is

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Speaker 10: a huge opportunity for Buffalo with.

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Speaker 7: You know, no Lamar, no Burrow, no Mahomes.

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Speaker 10: In the playoffs, like, this is your opportunity to throw

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Speaker 10: the cape on. It doesn't matter if your defense can't

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Speaker 10: stop the run. They do other things well, creating interceptions.

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Speaker 10: They're playing well enough. This is your opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna throw. I have a theory on this.

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Speaker 1: I want to put up the playoff picture so the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks know the Niners are beat up. The Seahawks are

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Speaker 1: a young team. I don't like young teams getting buys.

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Speaker 1: I think young teams should play old guys can take

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Speaker 1: a buye. So Seattle comes in at home off of

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Speaker 1: by probably not totally in sync first driver too, and

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Speaker 1: I would guess their takeaway is, guys, we have the

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Speaker 1: better healthier roster. We're gonna wear these guys out over

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Speaker 1: three and a half hours. Let's not let's not make

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Speaker 1: let's not beat ourselves early. The Niners come into that

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Speaker 1: game thinking, guys, we gotta we gotta seize control. We're

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Speaker 1: not going on the road and being passive. We're taking swings.

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle Niners. The world loves Seattle, and I

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Speaker 1: think Seattle could come in cautious, Rusty. I think Seattle

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Speaker 1: nine is a real game, and I would be concerned

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Speaker 1: if I was the Seahawks. How do you view it?

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Speaker 10: I think it's a real game, but I'm not I'm

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Speaker 10: not worried about that. I've seen the way Seattle practices.

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Speaker 10: This is not like a fat cat a bunch of

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Speaker 10: old vets, like they get after it even the Saturday

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Speaker 10: before a game. I've seen them like they're they're breaking

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Speaker 10: a sweat. The balls flying around, guys, are you know

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Speaker 10: they're they're competitive. I would imagine that this week, like

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Speaker 10: I mentioned to you last week, is a lot of

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Speaker 10: ones versus ones, best versus best.

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Speaker 7: You know, we're not taking our star players to the ground.

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Speaker 10: We're staying away from uh Sam Darnold's fingers as he

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Speaker 10: throws the ball in the pocket. We're not squeezing the

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Speaker 10: pocket that way. But we're not taking hits on JSN.

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Speaker 10: We're not tugging at jerseys, hurting hamstrings like all that

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Speaker 10: kind of stuff.

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Speaker 7: So no, I think Seattle comes out firing.

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Speaker 10: And I just think you got to be an alert

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Speaker 10: for a Kyle Shanahan uh non traditional game plan, non

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Speaker 10: traditional matchups and trick plays like.

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Speaker 7: What do they got to lose?

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Speaker 10: Short week? You know, I had to go across the country.

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Speaker 10: I think, like a third time match. They're pulling out

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Speaker 10: all this stuff. You know, he's got trick plays in

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Speaker 10: the playbook. What are you saving them for? This is

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Speaker 10: the week to do it. We'll Seattle be ready. That'll

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Speaker 10: be the question.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Rams are at the Bears. Rams are healthy, Bears,

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Speaker 1: Loft their left tackle and the top Edward's the top

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Speaker 1: defensive player. I do worry they come off a wildly

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Speaker 1: emotional game against Green Bay, whereas the Rams are kind

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Speaker 1: of sitting there like can we get through Carolina? But

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Speaker 1: here's what worries me about the Rams. They give up

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Speaker 1: thirty plus points to Carolina twice, and I keep hearing

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Speaker 1: how great their defensive front seven is and Carolina was

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Speaker 1: four for four in the red zone. I could see

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams having another second half. I mean Colston Lovelin,

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Speaker 1: Roma Dunze, Luther Burden, DJ Moore. Bears have a lot

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Speaker 1: of size and a lot of skill. I think Chicago

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Speaker 1: has a chance to win. How do you view it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I don't disagree at all, but I do think people

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Speaker 10: overlook how physical the Rams are upfront offensively and defensively,

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Speaker 10: and so you know you mentioned the Bears lose their

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Speaker 10: left tackle, Lassi Trapillo. I think that's a bigger loss

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Speaker 10: than people realize, you know, because you can have all

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Speaker 10: the creative plays in the world, but if you can't protect,

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Speaker 10: it makes it tough. But you know, when Matthew Stafford's

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Speaker 10: on a heater at the end of the game, that's

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Speaker 10: what the difference is. Like he didn't have his greatest game,

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Speaker 10: I didn't think, but he had a you know, a

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Speaker 10: long drive at the end, and.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a perfect throat to Kolbe Parkinson.

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Speaker 10: And so you know, these are two quarterbacks that can

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Speaker 10: do it at the end of the game. And the

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Speaker 10: way the rules are and the k balls are right now,

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Speaker 10: I think this could be a fascinating matchup again, even

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Speaker 10: if it's twenty one nothing at halftime, I wouldn't count

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Speaker 10: either one of these teams out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Buffalo now is going to go to Denver High altitude.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way bo Nick's young quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: don't want him to have rest. I'd rather bow keep playing.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, I mean, the dog is going

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Speaker 1: to be uh, I don't even know who's favored in

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Speaker 1: that game. My takeaway is though Buffalo playing flying home,

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Speaker 1: flying out, I'm like, I think it's an advantage for Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think Buffalo needed rest. I think that

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Speaker 1: was a great, great win and gives them some jet

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Speaker 1: fuel into Denver. Would you worry about the Broncos having

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Speaker 1: a week off?

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Speaker 10: No, I don't think I worry about the Broncos having

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Speaker 10: a week off. And you know, the Broncos lost to

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Speaker 10: the Bills last year in a.

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Speaker 7: Similar situation like.

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Speaker 10: This, so you know, I think there's you know, you

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Speaker 10: don't have to worry again, like about these guys like

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Speaker 10: not taking it seriously, not making it there all like

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Speaker 10: this is their super Bowl in a sense, like they've

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Speaker 10: got this mindset of like want to know this week,

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Speaker 10: play every play like at your last.

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Speaker 7: This game could be our last. I think Sean Payton

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Speaker 7: will have them ready.

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Speaker 10: This you know that way for me, if I was

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Speaker 10: the quarterback, if I was Josh Allen, I know I

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Speaker 10: got to go up against Vance Joseph, and of all

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Speaker 10: the guys that I've ever gone up against, like Dance

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Speaker 10: Joseph's got to be somewhere on the podium. I don't

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Speaker 10: know if he's a bronze silver, gold medalist, but the

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Speaker 10: study time that it takes to go through his defenses

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Speaker 10: and his disguise schemes and all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 10: it's something. And now he's got guys that can just

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Speaker 10: rush the passer without any help of a blitz.

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Speaker 7: That's a challenge. That's a challenge. I think.

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Speaker 10: I think Denver's got a better team than people realize.

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Speaker 10: But again, this is one of those things where Josh

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Speaker 10: Allen is that quarterback that can go above the x's

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Speaker 10: and o's without the other superstars mahomes, Lamar Burrow. They're

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Speaker 10: not in the AFC this year. This might be your

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Speaker 10: best chance, Buffalo, like, go do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who do you like tonight? Steelers Texans.

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Speaker 7: It's a really tough one.

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Speaker 10: I think if the Steelers don't try to play the

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Speaker 10: game an empty back like they love to be an

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Speaker 10: empty Aaron Rodgers in Shotgun like it's ten years ago

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Speaker 10: in Green Bay. If they don't do that, then then

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Speaker 10: I like the Steelers. But if they want to just

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Speaker 10: kind of play like they've always played, like oh Aaron

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Speaker 10: and DK and this and that, I think the Houston

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Speaker 10: Texans defense is really spectacular and they got to do

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Speaker 10: it a different way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pittsburgh has a weird way of in these games

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Speaker 1: where you're like, I'm not sure they can generate enough offense,

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Speaker 1: they find out a way to get turnovers short field.

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Speaker 1: Tomlins teams always do this when you're really he's always

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Speaker 1: been a great underdog coach, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: the ball is tipped and TJ. Watts running down the field.

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Speaker 1: You're like, I mean, cause my old takeaway is can

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Speaker 1: they generate fourteen points? But they always figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to do it. That's kind of that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh way, is it not.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And it's worked for them for a long time.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 10: I just think that at some point Aaron Rodgers has

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Speaker 10: to kind of and maybe he's already done that.

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Speaker 7: He's got to change the way.

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Speaker 10: He's played in terms of again just going more point guard,

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Speaker 10: and that can be using the running backs more okay,

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Speaker 10: but less shooting forward. We don't need the you know,

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Speaker 10: I would I would just say it sort of that way,

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Speaker 10: like make the people around you better, And I think

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Speaker 10: he's got the ability to do that. But the speed

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Speaker 10: and the physicality and the pass rush of this Houston

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Speaker 10: Texans team with Hunter and Anderson, Like, I don't care

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Speaker 10: how good of a thrower you are, it won't matter

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Speaker 10: if you don't have time to throw.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Mike Tomlin twenty three and five on Monday Night.

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Speaker 1: So there is a magic to it, no question. Matt

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Speaker 1: Hasselbeck has always buddy great senior