Speaker 1: So it has been detaiale of two technologies for me
Speaker 1: the last few days. As our dear listeners can see
Speaker 1: if they use this clip or here, I sound a
Speaker 1: little different because I am at Danielle's house this morning
Speaker 1: because my internet has been out for three days. It
Speaker 1: comes on, gives me just the inkling of technology, and
Speaker 1: then leaves again. And no matter what they do, they
Speaker 1: can't seem to fix it. They're rewiring everything. So here
Speaker 1: I am. And yet this weekend I was in San
Speaker 1: Francisco to see my stepdaughter and my son in law,
Speaker 1: and I took my first ever way mo.
Speaker 2: No oh, automatic driving car?
Speaker 3: Is the auto driving cars? How was it?
Speaker 1: It's trippy, so it took like a It was like
Speaker 1: a fifteen minute drive.
Speaker 3: This wasn't like down the block.
Speaker 1: And this car shows up with all these lights on
Speaker 1: it doing all this stuff, and my stepdaughter, who hasn't
Speaker 1: account her initials, flash on the top of the car
Speaker 1: and then she uses her phone to unlock the car
Speaker 1: and she's like, you sit in front. I want you
Speaker 1: to experience this. It's like, great, I'll be the air bag.
Speaker 1: So they put me in the front of the car.
Speaker 4: I have video of this.
Speaker 3: They put me in the front of the car.
Speaker 1: The car then sinks to her phone, so her playlist
Speaker 1: of songs comes up. And then they welcome you, and
Speaker 1: you have to snap your seatbelts and you press a
Speaker 1: button and the wizard that is driving the car, because
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's what it is, takes over. And it
Speaker 1: is the trippiest feeling in the world. You're driving through
Speaker 1: the streets of San Francisco, you know, the big, hugely
Speaker 1: elevated streets and the big and this again, evil wizard
Speaker 1: next to you is the steering wheel is spinning.
Speaker 3: It's stopping for pedestrians. It is so strange.
Speaker 2: Were you nervous the whole time?
Speaker 3: Like really the whole time?
Speaker 1: Like so they have done this all the time. They
Speaker 1: haven an account. They they're like, oh, we don't use
Speaker 1: uber anymore. This is all we use, so they're used
Speaker 1: to it. But it was so trippy to be sitting
Speaker 1: there and you're seeing people like crossing the street in
Speaker 1: front of you, and and my son in law, who's
Speaker 1: very tech savvy's all right, look at the screen.
Speaker 3: It's mapped out, it's it sees everything.
Speaker 1: So as you're driving up the street, all the cars
Speaker 1: that are in the parking lots are registered on the
Speaker 1: screen and pedestrians and it's point has arrows pointing like
Speaker 1: there's a pedestrian here, there's a pedestrian in there, And
Speaker 1: apparently it is in the next two or three months
Speaker 1: coming to LA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing a pilot program right now in LA.
Speaker 1: But no freeway, I guess, because that would be I
Speaker 1: couldn't even imagine driving on the LA Freeway.
Speaker 3: And I mean, go, isn't that weird?
Speaker 2: I think I would feel safer on the freeway, you think,
Speaker 2: like in the Yeah, the freeway is remember the movie
Speaker 2: Minority Report. Yeah, where the cars are just kind of
Speaker 2: like cruising and they like stop and you get in.
Speaker 2: That makes sense to me because it's almost like I
Speaker 2: can imagine it like a train, like just stay in
Speaker 2: your lane and it'll eliminate traffic because cars will actually
Speaker 2: keep the safe distance in the right distance. So there
Speaker 2: would be way less traffic in LA. With automatic driving
Speaker 2: on freeways. I get more scared by just yeah, the
Speaker 2: dog that runs in front of you or coyote in LA,
Speaker 2: which happens all the time, Like you know, I would
Speaker 2: be so terrified of that. And yeah, if I was
Speaker 2: in the front seat of a car moving under thirty
Speaker 2: miles prior. I feel like I would just be constantly
Speaker 2: second guessing it, looking around it. Well, that's what you're doing.
Speaker 1: And Lexo Lexi told us a story where she's like,
Speaker 1: the third one she was ever in got hit by
Speaker 1: a bus.
Speaker 3: Oh so while she was in driver Yes, she's in
Speaker 3: this car. She's in the car.
Speaker 2: Can you need a driverless bus? That's the problem. They
Speaker 2: just putting human because it was their own thoughts and emotions.
Speaker 3: It was the bus's fault.
Speaker 1: So the bus turned and hit It wasn't bad, but
Speaker 1: it like it hit into the thing.
Speaker 3: And then a voice comes on like, okay, you've been
Speaker 3: in an accident. Are you okay? Do you know we're
Speaker 3: sending somebody out.
Speaker 1: She's like minutes later a guy pulled up in a
Speaker 1: car and was like, we're so sorry you were in
Speaker 1: an accident and you don't have to stay here.
Speaker 3: We've called you another one. Another one shows up takes
Speaker 3: her on her. But that was the thing. It's like
Speaker 3: a robot.
Speaker 2: I mean, where's the insurance robot?
Speaker 5: Taking out back and being shot Yes, And.
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm We're gonna this robot.
Speaker 3: What do I do? She goes, if I'm in an accident,
Speaker 3: I stay at the accident. That's what I do. She's like,
Speaker 3: well do I stay?
Speaker 4: Do I do?
Speaker 1: I have to, you know, give witness information. And the
Speaker 1: company just shows up like, no, God, we got it.
Speaker 3: Take care.
Speaker 1: They called her two or three times the next week,
Speaker 1: like we're just checking to see that you're okay.
Speaker 3: And but I mean it was so yeah. She was
Speaker 3: also in a Waimo accident.
Speaker 2: You know what I can't stand is like my wife
Speaker 2: we got her a car maybe three or four years
Speaker 2: ago and had all the automatic It had all the
Speaker 2: automatic censoring without doing anything about or it would automatically
Speaker 2: break for you. But then it would also just beep
Speaker 2: it me constantly and like I had to turn everything off.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm it didn't bother my wife. She
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, yeah, that's good to know. It helps
Speaker 2: me park. I'm like, no, it stresses me out. I'm
Speaker 2: sitting here trying to park and it's like, baby, I
Speaker 2: know that's.
Speaker 3: The worst when you're driving and all of a sudden, God, yeah, I'd.
Speaker 2: Rather it be fully automatic or nothing at all. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to just like in between, but I
Speaker 2: don't know about the fully automatic I still haven't experienced it.
Speaker 5: And I I want to do it.
Speaker 3: It was crazy. I'll show you the video the.
Speaker 6: Pilot program in LA can you Can you arrange for
Speaker 6: rides or no?
Speaker 2: You had to have signed up for it ahead of time.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can join it now, but I think for
Speaker 2: the next couple of months you just have to have
Speaker 2: been like one of the beta testers or whatever that
Speaker 2: that agreed to do it months ago.
Speaker 1: Can I ask who would name a company that drives
Speaker 1: vehicles so close to whammos lamb was welcome.
Speaker 2: To smash Box. That was the other thing.
Speaker 1: When you when you watch the video, you see me
Speaker 1: commenting because it was raining the night that we're in
Speaker 1: our way mow and the wind show wipers are on,
Speaker 1: and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, who is these?
Speaker 3: Who is this four?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: There's nobody driving.
Speaker 2: You just put a scream. You can watch a movie.
Speaker 2: You don't need to even look out.
Speaker 3: It's like, why are their wind show wipers?
Speaker 1: What? What is the point of this? It's like a
Speaker 1: helmet when you're skydiving. It's you don't need it. So
Speaker 1: very strange, But I thought you would enjoy the Tale
Speaker 1: of two technologies.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: So are you are you?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I do it again.
Speaker 2: You're sold, You're ready.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm sold, but it was. It's
Speaker 3: a it's a.
Speaker 1: Unique kind of crazy experience. I'm glad I experienced it.
Speaker 1: I would do it again again. It was a fishing
Speaker 1: It showed up on time, it dropped us off, we
Speaker 1: didn't hit a bus.
Speaker 3: It was all good.
Speaker 2: There's so many weird ramification, right. I mean, there's the
Speaker 2: jobs factor, right, like people just losing jobs. Okay, that sucks.
Speaker 2: But then yeah, just the automation and like getting used
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 6: And I will also say that as a woman, there
Speaker 6: is a nice feeling of knowing that I could be
Speaker 6: in a car without another human being because there is
Speaker 6: always a risk factor getting into a car with a stranger,
Speaker 6: that there is a there is like a safety element
Speaker 6: that would make me, you know, on the one hand, crash, Oh,
Speaker 6: I may get into it. I make it into a
Speaker 6: terrible accident because there's no human driving. On the other hand,
Speaker 6: I don't have to worry about being assaulted.
Speaker 2: So life is a trade off.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 5: Welcome to pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel.
Speaker 2: I'm righter, strong, and I'm Wilfredo. Guys, what the kids
Speaker 2: want to jump? Again and again and again.
Speaker 5: Well, now that Will doesn't have COVID. He wants to jump.
Speaker 2: I want to I want to jump without that sneeze.
Speaker 3: That wouldn't go everywhere. Six months later, the tour is back.
Speaker 6: We have rescheduled Durham, North Carolina. We will be inside
Speaker 6: you on June nineteenth, Atlanta we will be there on
Speaker 6: June twentieth, and.
Speaker 5: New Orleans we will see you on the twenty first.
Speaker 3: Are we gonna be there by ourselves in Durham?
Speaker 5: We absolutely are not.
Speaker 6: We have the one and only Lee Norris Mincus hold
Speaker 6: the plane for Mincus himself is going.
Speaker 5: To be joining us on the nineteenth, is.
Speaker 2: Exiting the time warp wormhole that he entered and disappeared
Speaker 2: from our show and appearing on our stage.
Speaker 1: I can't get Danielle saying Durham, We're going to be
Speaker 1: inside of you on the night.
Speaker 2: I know it's not a awkward, right, Why should to
Speaker 2: phrase it like that?
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Speaker 2: All the Dame script with her, Yeah right, we hope to.
Speaker 5: See you there inside you.
Speaker 3: Oh God, we hope to be inside of you. I
Speaker 3: mean the town, your city.
Speaker 2: Please just come, just come.
Speaker 6: When we watched the classic season four episode sixteen Candles
Speaker 6: and four hundred Pound Men, we heard exactly how much
Speaker 6: chaos went into throwing writer Ben and Ethan into a
Speaker 6: real life WWF ring between Big Bad Vader and Jake
Speaker 6: the Snake Roberts, and you have to wonder who actually
Speaker 6: made that happen. Obviously we had a crew with us,
Speaker 6: but it was bare bones on location, so we relied
Speaker 6: heavily on the WWF team to one have it all
Speaker 6: come together and two make sure our cast wasn't killed
Speaker 6: by fans angry that their main event was being hijacked
Speaker 6: by some TGIF weirdos. And the man to thank for
Speaker 6: producing the segment on the wrestling side of things is
Speaker 6: also the guy who not only introduced the wrestlers on
Speaker 6: their way to the ring for the episode, but he
Speaker 6: was also the announcer you heard throughout the match.
Speaker 5: And that man is Bruce.
Speaker 6: Pritchard aka Brother Love. In the eighties and nineties, he
Speaker 6: was seen on WWF programming as a red faced, white
Speaker 6: suit megachurch preacher who claimed he was in the Federation
Speaker 6: to spread love, but in reality was a money hungry
Speaker 6: con man or a heel, the term used for bad
Speaker 6: guy in the industry. He hosted interview segments, worked as
Speaker 6: a commentator, and even managed wrestlers, most notably as the
Speaker 6: first mouthpiece for the Undertaker, but it was his behind
Speaker 6: the scenes skills that would turn him into an icon
Speaker 6: in the business. As a producer, he's been in and
Speaker 6: out of but mostly in the WWE now as a
Speaker 6: head honcho senior vice president executive director for the company's
Speaker 6: two flagship shows, Raw and SmackDown, right in the middle
Speaker 6: of one of the company's most successful periods. Ever, if
Speaker 6: it happened in wrestling, he most likely had a hand
Speaker 6: in it, and since twenty sixteen, he's also had his
Speaker 6: own podcast, Something to Wrestle with Bruce Pritchard, where he
Speaker 6: gives listeners the real scoop on some of sports entertainment's
Speaker 6: biggest events and what's bigger than the night we all
Speaker 6: ended up in his ring. I'm gonna guess nothing. So
Speaker 6: now let's welcome one.
Speaker 5: Of our most requested guests by fans. It's the man.
Speaker 6: Who loves you, WWE s Bruce Pritchard.
Speaker 4: Hey, where's genius?
Speaker 5: Genius?
Speaker 4: Hey, we're finally here.
Speaker 6: You made it, and let me tell you, we are
Speaker 6: so thankful that you are here with us.
Speaker 5: When we recently rewatched.
Speaker 6: The wrestling episode, we immediately realized there was someone on
Speaker 6: the WWF at that time side of things who had
Speaker 6: a very hard job that night, and we were able
Speaker 6: to figure out that it was you. That night of
Speaker 6: us being there could not have been fun for you.
Speaker 6: You were pulling triple duty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and dealing with dealing with my own set of
Speaker 4: temperamental over here on this side exactly.
Speaker 6: That's actually the thing I want to know most is
Speaker 6: like we heard from writer and from Ethan that it
Speaker 6: was chaos for them, but we've never heard your side
Speaker 6: of things.
Speaker 5: What was that night like for you?
Speaker 4: Well, we're, first of all, we're in Anaheim and we're
Speaker 4: trying to present a live event for Anaheim, and it's
Speaker 4: a live event. Is a different feel than when we
Speaker 4: go out and we produce television, because when we produce television,
Speaker 4: I think the talent are accustomed to a bit of
Speaker 4: waiting around and having to do things two and three times.
Speaker 4: We operate a lot differently than Hollywood does. Hollywood has
Speaker 4: the luxury of you know, cut, Okay, let's get back
Speaker 4: in their place and let's try it again. We don't
Speaker 4: have that luxury in front of a live, paining audience
Speaker 4: that wants to be entertained. And I think that that
Speaker 4: was part of the frustration the event in and of it.
Speaker 4: So he was a little bit longer that night because
Speaker 4: we had to fit in the Jake, the Snake, Roberts
Speaker 4: and Vader match. Yeah, and then what should have been
Speaker 4: a ten minute match, I think we ended up going
Speaker 4: almost thirty five to forty minutes. Oh no, Jesus, well, yeah,
Speaker 4: Corey and he had them all down ringside. You're trying
Speaker 4: to get this scene, this heartfelt scene of you know, dad,
Speaker 4: do you love me? And I'm trying I'm sitting at
Speaker 4: ringside in a white suit, face painted red. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: so it was I'm trying to direct them there. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to fund Jake down to say, hey man, it's okay,
Speaker 4: you stay there and do your thing. Vader's doing his
Speaker 4: say at here for Boy Meets World, and to make
Speaker 4: it logical for the audience, you had to do certain
Speaker 4: things to get Vader in that position. Didn't protect Jake
Speaker 4: right then on on top of that talent backstage that were,
Speaker 4: oh hey, Bruce, are you done Bruce in your movie?
Speaker 2: So Bruce, I was there. I was one of the actors.
Speaker 2: I played Sean, So I was in the ring. I'm
Speaker 2: curious because my memory is just you know, it's chaos
Speaker 2: and misery. But how big was the audience? Because it
Speaker 2: felt bigger than any crowd I have ever been in
Speaker 2: front of. How big would the audience have been? Because
Speaker 2: we're at the Mighty Ducks Arena, right is that where? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So how big of an audience would that have been?
Speaker 4: You know that night we were probably in the nine
Speaker 4: ten thousand range.
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 4: So yeah.
Speaker 2: See on Boy met we were used to performing in
Speaker 2: front of about one hundred people. Two hundred people were
Speaker 2: there to watch us make mistakes and do it five times?
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was it was overwhelming.
Speaker 4: God. Yeah.
Speaker 6: We actually recently heard how annoyed Jake Roberts was the
Speaker 6: whole experience. He said he basically had to repeat moves
Speaker 6: and it was just a produced match in a way
Speaker 6: that's pretty taboo, as you mentioned, in front of a
Speaker 6: live audience, and then you also had to call the
Speaker 6: match live on the fly.
Speaker 5: Is that correct?
Speaker 4: Yes? And I will say this, I've done a lot
Speaker 4: of things in the business, and of the things that
Speaker 4: I've done, I am probably the worst played by play
Speaker 4: commentator on the face of God's great Earth. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it was, hey, can you do play by play? I
Speaker 4: said no? I said, what'd you do? Play by play?
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, it sounds like I don't have a choice.
Speaker 4: Sure, and you know, and again you're you're trying to
Speaker 4: do play by play, not knowing what's going to make it,
Speaker 4: trying to give them sound bites that they can use anywhere.
Speaker 4: And in the midst of it, Jake's looking yeah, Jake
Speaker 4: was pissed. Jake's looking at me in the ring like,
Speaker 4: what are we doing here? You know, wrap this up,
Speaker 4: let's go man, I'm done. This is done by now.
Speaker 4: And we would have, but it's a different animal. It's
Speaker 4: a complete different animal. You guys are hitting your marks.
Speaker 4: You guys have lines that you've got to get through
Speaker 4: and that you've got to nail, and that affects everything
Speaker 4: you do. We can improvise, we can okay, Hey, they're
Speaker 4: not buying this, Let's go here. And I can only
Speaker 4: imagine being in that environment where you are used to
Speaker 4: the luxury of man. I've studied, I've got my part down,
Speaker 4: I know my lines, I know my reactions here, I
Speaker 4: know this, I know that, and I dare say, I
Speaker 4: don't think you guys had the feedback even on the fly,
Speaker 4: correct if. I'm well, no, that was a good taker.
Speaker 4: Now that was a bad take. I think it was.
Speaker 4: Let's get another one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, we did a full take of all the things
Speaker 2: that we had to get in the ring, and then
Speaker 2: Ben and I ran backstage, and then our ad told
Speaker 2: us to go back out there and we had to
Speaker 2: do it all over again, which, of course, the poor audience,
Speaker 2: the poor wrestlers, that just ruins the show for them
Speaker 2: as far as you know, and we had to hit
Speaker 2: all the same beats. But yeah, I can't imagine also
Speaker 2: just you know, not only the chaos of the audience,
Speaker 2: but also not knowing who was in charge because we
Speaker 2: had our director, poor Jeff McCracken. You're producing your side
Speaker 2: of the show. You have the wrestlers who are used to,
Speaker 2: as far as I understand it, you know, doing the
Speaker 2: show themselves like they're the ones in charge and they
Speaker 2: can kind of roll with However, things are going. So
Speaker 2: I feel like all of us were sort of looking
Speaker 2: at one another being like, who's in charge? What's happening here?
Speaker 2: And I still don't know to this day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would like to know. Do we have Mark
Speaker 6: Blutman to blame for this? To blame Mark?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's easy to blame Mark.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy to blame Mark and probably the right
Speaker 1: thing to do most of the time, right, just blame Mark.
Speaker 2: He's not here.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that's a standard for everything, whatever
Speaker 4: happens in your life, if the something goes awry, I
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: I have a question when it comes to so creating
Speaker 1: the stories. In the world of wrestling, something happens in
Speaker 1: the ring, it becomes canon, right, I mean, it's this
Speaker 1: is something that is part of the wrestling world. So
Speaker 1: when a live audience sees Vader come out and now
Speaker 1: he has a son, is.
Speaker 3: That now part of the wrestling world? Is Vader?
Speaker 1: Is is Ethan's character now officially Vader's son in the
Speaker 1: world of wrestling?
Speaker 4: No, And I think that I think that you got
Speaker 4: you know, I think you underestimate the popularity of the
Speaker 4: show Boy Meets World because I think that that show
Speaker 4: in and of itself will so strong, especially at the
Speaker 4: time that people understood. People knew who you guys were,
Speaker 4: and they knew, okay, they had seen and I think
Speaker 4: Leon had done one or two, so they knew that
Speaker 4: Leon was playing a party, gotcha, and it was you know,
Speaker 4: it was cool to have him a part of our
Speaker 4: world while he was a part of the Boy Meets
Speaker 4: World world. But they knew that he was playing a
Speaker 4: part at that point. And again, Boy Meets World was,
Speaker 4: you know, very popular at the time to the point
Speaker 4: that there didn't need to be a whole lot of explanation.
Speaker 4: They knew.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: That helped, you know, it definitely helps in the audience's
Speaker 4: familiar it's like, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2: There's pang.
Speaker 6: Well, we may be underestimating how popular Boy Meets World
Speaker 6: was at the time, but we are definitely not underestimating
Speaker 6: how much the fans actually wanted to keep Hill writer.
Speaker 3: And then we were on the wrong side.
Speaker 6: Which was I you know, looking back, when you're not
Speaker 6: I wasn't there for that part of it. For me,
Speaker 6: it's so fun to think about that, Like, you know,
Speaker 6: they were with a heel and so they were as
Speaker 6: part of the audience, the audience. That's my favorite aspect
Speaker 6: of wrestling is how into it. You know, the the
Speaker 6: audience is truly a character, a part of the show,
Speaker 6: and they're so into it. So because they were with
Speaker 6: a heel, they were hated the same way the heel
Speaker 6: is hated.
Speaker 5: And the writer can explain, we had no clue.
Speaker 2: No, well, we had no clue because I knew nothing
Speaker 2: about wrestling except what Leon had told me, you know,
Speaker 2: he had he had sort of informed me about like
Speaker 2: what the storytelling was and the skill it took to
Speaker 2: be a wrestler, and so I had this like vague
Speaker 2: but for some reason, nobody told us that he was
Speaker 2: a heel, and.
Speaker 5: Like people would be screaming at you, and.
Speaker 2: Though, of course, well it makes perfect sense when you
Speaker 2: think about his mask and a whole lot. Oh, I
Speaker 2: had no idea. So when we showed up, and you know,
Speaker 2: I remember Ethan Supple particularly got very upset because people
Speaker 2: were yelling at us. People were like, go home, Cory,
Speaker 2: go home, shown you suck. And I remember him just
Speaker 2: like getting pissed and like, you know, we're like trying
Speaker 2: to stay in character.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, Ethan said, he actually fought back just out
Speaker 6: of instinct that people who were coming at him his
Speaker 6: natural instinct was to like really go at him.
Speaker 5: And then he's like, wait, what am I doing?
Speaker 3: Need this part of the show.
Speaker 5: This is the part of the show. I need your
Speaker 5: show exactly.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's the best.
Speaker 1: Now, the match itself that night between Vader and Jake
Speaker 1: the Snake, This this is a match that actually mattered, right,
Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't one of them the winner going to
Speaker 1: go on to the championship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 5: It's so cool.
Speaker 6: And correct me also if I'm wrong, because some of
Speaker 6: this is just a little confusing for our for our
Speaker 6: brains to wrap around. But the stuff that we were shooting,
Speaker 6: the stuff with Ethan there and the guys in the ring,
Speaker 6: didn't actually air on the WWF side. It was right,
Speaker 6: So like when Will asked the question about now does
Speaker 6: Vader have a son? The stuff we were shooting wasn't
Speaker 6: airing for the televised WWF crowd.
Speaker 5: It was just the live audience who was seeing.
Speaker 2: Well, but no, the actual but the why of the
Speaker 2: ring we had to have shown.
Speaker 5: Up in the ring, right, I don't think you didn't.
Speaker 4: We didn't use any of that for any of our time? Right?
Speaker 3: What about the entrance?
Speaker 1: Was the entrance when because there he's flanked by Frankie
Speaker 1: and Corey and Sean.
Speaker 3: Was the entrance aired for w W E or no? No?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 4: That was then for Boy Meets World? Interesting?
Speaker 5: That's so cool.
Speaker 4: Audience never got to see it.
Speaker 3: What a production.
Speaker 1: There's two massive shows, one of them live in front
Speaker 1: of ten thousand people going on at the same time.
Speaker 3: Yep, crazy.
Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask you guys question. Yeah, okay, whoever
Speaker 4: got really close to Leon when he was sweaty? Oh?
Speaker 2: Me Will all the time, and Will got picked up
Speaker 2: by him.
Speaker 3: He would pick me up.
Speaker 1: So I was the guy that he would always pick
Speaker 1: up and bench press over his head and then throw
Speaker 1: me on his shoulder.
Speaker 3: It became like our thing. So yes, there was. He
Speaker 3: would baby oil himself up and then get all sweaty.
Speaker 2: The smell of gold bond powder.
Speaker 1: Yeah and uh and use his rubber bands to get
Speaker 1: his shoulders working, and then he would grab me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was.
Speaker 6: Is that the only smell you remember is the smell
Speaker 6: of gold bond powder and baby oil and baby ol?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a guy though, What a guy? When he
Speaker 1: told his stories about coming up and what it took
Speaker 1: to become a professional wrestler in some of the places
Speaker 1: that he started wrestling in and some of the small
Speaker 1: kind of pits and dens that he started in. And
Speaker 1: he told us one story about getting stabbed and another
Speaker 1: one about putting his eye back in himself. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was telling the stories of what it took to
Speaker 1: get to that level of w w F at the time.
Speaker 3: But w w E is they're amazing.
Speaker 4: And Leon Leon was a tremendous athlete. He truly was.
Speaker 4: He was a big man, great athlete, played football at
Speaker 4: Colorado and he you know, he had an r about him.
Speaker 4: Great athlete, absolutely incredible athlete. We used to call it
Speaker 4: if he would like grab you or he would pat
Speaker 4: you and oh hey thanks, you just got Vader, he said,
Speaker 4: is all you can smell for the rest of the day.
Speaker 4: And it was like you would take you take your
Speaker 4: jacket off.
Speaker 2: And it was like you swear, I can't get rid
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 4: Einfeld episode where the stinky Valet stinky car couldn't get
Speaker 4: rid of it. It was absolutely damnar impossible, and it's
Speaker 4: Vader had a lot of a lot of funny, funny
Speaker 4: stories about him from the standpoint the links that he
Speaker 4: would go through to get out of something. So if
Speaker 4: he didn't want to go to Canada, he had a
Speaker 4: what they call a minister's permit to get him into Canada.
Speaker 4: Because of some issues he had had in the past,
Speaker 4: it was difficult to travel internationally and Leon didn't particularly
Speaker 4: want to Canada. It was his minister's permit had lapsed,
Speaker 4: but there was another one in the works. It was
Speaker 4: all in the computer. All they had to do was
Speaker 4: look it up. And Leon flies to Canada, goes to
Speaker 4: the customs agent and says, you can't let me in
Speaker 4: my see my bussor's permit has expired. I need to
Speaker 4: go home. And he goes, oh, no, I recognize you.
Speaker 4: You're okay, Yeah, you're right. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: it's expired. See look it's aspired. Goes yeah, but they
Speaker 4: put the paperwork in. It's in our computer. You're okay
Speaker 4: to go, goes.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: You don't understand. I can't. I have to go back
Speaker 4: to the States. Right, No, because he just.
Speaker 2: Wanted to go home, he didn't want the job.
Speaker 3: He flies all the way there just to country away,
Speaker 3: right right.
Speaker 2: He fulfilled his duty.
Speaker 5: As somebody who likes being home even more than Will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really I would, because I never would have gotten
Speaker 1: on the flight to Cannon in the first place.
Speaker 3: I would have found an excuse on the way to
Speaker 3: the airport.
Speaker 2: You just would have gotten sick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to do that.
Speaker 6: So, Bruce, did you watch your episode of Boy Meets
Speaker 6: World when it aired? And was there any pride for
Speaker 6: you and being on a network show? Did anyone at
Speaker 6: the WWF care?
Speaker 4: Yes? I mean I got to tell you, you know,
Speaker 4: for me, it was a thrill. That was a pretty
Speaker 4: cool production to be a part of. First of all,
Speaker 4: I was honored to even be asked, and yes, it's
Speaker 4: Bloodlin's fault. But as we got into it and started
Speaker 4: talking about people, I was suggesting other people to play
Speaker 4: the role that I did, and He's like, hey, he goes,
Speaker 4: could you do it? Nobody's gonna know who I am
Speaker 4: because no, no, no, no, no, go brother, love do it?
Speaker 4: I said, oh, well, you know, I don't know, and
Speaker 4: I didn't think it fit, but personally, very selfishly glad
Speaker 4: it did. Of course I watched it. Yeah, absolutely, you know,
Speaker 4: I loved it. That was a big thrill. And when
Speaker 4: my kids got old enough because I didn't have kids.
Speaker 4: My kids are twenty five now, but when they got
Speaker 4: old enough, I used to, you know, show them the table.
Speaker 4: See that was another TV too real TV.
Speaker 5: Well, do people still mention it to you now?
Speaker 6: Like the WWE Superstars now are kind of like the
Speaker 6: perfect Boy Meets World age?
Speaker 5: So do people still mention it to you?
Speaker 4: Yes? And especially whenever, you know, whenever it's on the cycle,
Speaker 4: the syndication and the show hits, I always get, you know,
Speaker 4: those tweets or what have you and messages or hell
Speaker 4: my god, I didn't know you were on Boy Meets World,
Speaker 4: so you know, yeah, it was And for me, I think,
Speaker 4: you know, Boy Meets World along was saved by the bell.
Speaker 4: We're kind of like my guilty pleasures of just when
Speaker 4: you need It's going to sound terrible, but I mean
Speaker 4: in the best way. When you need mindless entertainment and
Speaker 4: you just want to chuckle yep, and you want it, man,
Speaker 4: entertain me. Don't don't give me something serious here. I
Speaker 4: think everybody could relate to Boy Meets World. You know,
Speaker 4: it was something that is relatable, right a passage growing
Speaker 4: up as a kid. Everybody went through that.
Speaker 5: How did you find yourself in the wrestling business.
Speaker 4: It's all I've done since I was ten years old.
Speaker 1: Wow, just like like I know, it's a magical age
Speaker 1: to find who you want to be ten for some reason.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you just continue every time, you know, I had,
Speaker 4: I had dreams as a kid what I wanted to
Speaker 4: do and where I wanted to be. I was very
Speaker 4: fortunate that by the time I was twenty five years old,
Speaker 4: I had reached ninety nine percent of my goals. Wow,
Speaker 4: but oh wow, what do I do now? I figured
Speaker 4: it out? You've gream bigger and more so. It was
Speaker 4: it's a passion for me. I love what I do.
Speaker 4: I love the business, I love the company, and it's
Speaker 4: it's just something where you can I haven't had I
Speaker 4: haven't had to go to work a lot of time.
Speaker 2: So what ignited the passion? You were ten years old
Speaker 2: and it was watching a wrestling match on television or
Speaker 2: was it going to a match.
Speaker 4: It was in Paso, Texas, and I saw the Funk
Speaker 4: Story and Terry Funk wrestling on TV in a black
Speaker 4: and white TV that was in our kitchen. The Funks,
Speaker 4: who were the good guys, they were like, you know,
Speaker 4: the hometown they were brothers and their dad was a wrestler.
Speaker 4: By God, this was a family from Texas, by God,
Speaker 4: from a barber, Texas, and they were they were wrestling
Speaker 4: the von Bromner's Evil Germans, and one of the Von
Speaker 4: Bromers had a pair of scissors and was cutting off
Speaker 4: Terry Funk's ear and Terry was bleeding and I was crying,
Speaker 4: and I was begging my mom, by God, we've got
Speaker 4: to help him. We've got to figure out some way
Speaker 4: to help him. And my Mom's like, be quiet and
Speaker 4: meet your dinner. This was this was done a long
Speaker 4: time ago. Wow. I was like, what you know when
Speaker 4: you're when you're four years old, you don't know about videotape.
Speaker 4: You don't well, I don't know they had videotape, but
Speaker 4: you don't know about pre recording something. And my brother
Speaker 4: and I just always wanted to be wrestlers. He always
Speaker 4: wanted to be a business and he started taking pictures.
Speaker 4: I started selling posters. Was my first job. And it
Speaker 4: was crazy.
Speaker 3: Who was your favorite wrestler growing up? Were you a
Speaker 3: Jerry Lawler fan? Or who did you love?
Speaker 4: Oh god, no, My favorites growing up were the funks
Speaker 4: because that was my first exposure to the business. They
Speaker 4: were presented to me as the end all be all.
Speaker 4: Funk became world champion when I was very young. Terry
Speaker 4: soon after that. It was those were my childhood heroes,
Speaker 4: and I eventually got to the point where I met them,
Speaker 4: worked with them, and became friends with them. So that
Speaker 4: was kind of kind of crazy.
Speaker 6: And how was the brother Love character born for WWF
Speaker 6: at the time? Did you always feel comfortable as a heel?
Speaker 4: Oh? God, yes, look I mean in school I was
Speaker 4: a heel. I always felt I just wanted to get
Speaker 4: a reaction, whether it was from teachers or other students,
Speaker 4: whatever it is. So yes, I loved being a heel.
Speaker 4: I loved being booed. I love people hating me. Brother
Speaker 4: Love is a product of the South. As a kid
Speaker 4: growing up on Sundays your only TV before noon ision,
Speaker 4: and so as I grew up, and for example, in Tulsa, Oklahoma,
Speaker 4: we did TV. We would record television on Sunday night.
Speaker 4: Then we would record what we call our local lies
Speaker 4: promos on Monday morning. So we stayed in this little
Speaker 4: town called Bixby, Oklahoma. On Sunday night, you know what
Speaker 4: is on TV and Bixby, Oklahoma. On Sunday Night. You
Speaker 4: had Oral Roberts, you have Robert Tilton, you had Jim Baker,
Speaker 4: and you had Jimmy Swagger. And they were mesmerizing to
Speaker 4: me right in the fact that they could. Robert Tilton
Speaker 4: had a spill. His television show was called Success in Life,
Speaker 4: and he would explain to you, why if you have
Speaker 4: faith in him, and you have faith in your saviors
Speaker 4: of the Lord Jesus Christ, then send me what you have.
Speaker 4: If you only have a dollar, we'll send me fifty cents.
Speaker 4: I'm gona tell you what's gonna happen. The Good Order
Speaker 4: is going to reward you with three dollars you're gonna
Speaker 4: send me to you're back even then. You know what
Speaker 4: you're gonna do from there, and you're gonna make all
Speaker 4: this money and you're gonna send seventy percent of it
Speaker 4: to him every time you make it. That's what they
Speaker 4: call success in life. And I'm listening to this, going,
Speaker 4: oh my god, this is great because I know there
Speaker 4: are people sending him money.
Speaker 6: Right yeah, and they're going, yes, if I just just
Speaker 6: keep making money to stay even.
Speaker 3: Winning, if I can just break even, I am winning
Speaker 3: and that was.
Speaker 4: Success in life, and I thought that was genius. So
Speaker 4: that was like the most beautiful, simplest, pure message, and
Speaker 4: it was all BS and it was beautifully done, so
Speaker 4: believable that I knew that if I could convince people
Speaker 4: the same way and get people to hate me as
Speaker 4: much as I hated them.
Speaker 3: Then I would have won.
Speaker 4: The brutes in the South. I love to watch the televangelists,
Speaker 4: the old time evangelists come to town. And no kidding,
Speaker 4: we had a tent Baptist church right by my house
Speaker 4: and I used to I was one of those kids
Speaker 4: that would get on my belly and go underneath the
Speaker 4: tent to watch the the revivals, just for an entertainment.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Well that's so interesting too that you took
Speaker 2: this charisma right, this presentation, and rather than saying, maybe
Speaker 2: I want to be a preacher, maybe that's something I
Speaker 2: can do, you said, how can I how can I
Speaker 2: you know, sort of make a show out of this,
Speaker 2: How can I make a character out of it? That's
Speaker 2: really brilliant, that's really cool.
Speaker 4: Exactly, And I remember, you know, all they asked about
Speaker 4: Brother Love and I remember an interview Brother Love was
Speaker 4: timing and it was freak timing because I debuted in
Speaker 4: eighty eight, three weeks after I debuted the Jim and
Speaker 4: Tammy Baker scandal.
Speaker 2: I have said, Han, it hits, So your story just
Speaker 2: resonated perfectly.
Speaker 4: They all thought that I did it because of that response.
Speaker 4: It was just luck timing, oh man, luck timing. And
Speaker 4: Tammy fay Baker did an interview with Mareno Boyle from
Speaker 4: a current affair and she was wearing makeup and Reno
Speaker 4: Boile says, tell me, Tammy, you talk about being really
Speaker 4: what's with all the makeup? And Tammy fay Bake with
Speaker 4: the straight faces. I don't wear makeup.
Speaker 2: And straight.
Speaker 4: Lived it.
Speaker 8: So when I did Brother Love, I did a testing
Speaker 8: in the studio with all everything in the look and
Speaker 8: as as a rib they put red makeup on my
Speaker 8: face and I was wearing a white suit and the
Speaker 8: white came out. I've got makeup everywhere, and I thought,
Speaker 8: this is the greatest thing ever. From this vantage point,
Speaker 8: I'm telling everyone I'm as real as it gets. What
Speaker 8: I'm phony is you see it ten miles away, and
Speaker 8: I use that Tammy Faye, you deny in the face
Speaker 8: of reality. I was in a nappy convention the National
Speaker 8: Association Television Programming Executives and I'm brother in love and
Speaker 8: I kid you not. Maureene O'Boyle from a Current Affair
Speaker 8: interviewed me and she looked at me and she says, so,
Speaker 8: what's with the makeup?
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, okay.
Speaker 5: Is this really happening?
Speaker 4: Just what I answered her with?
Speaker 5: What I don't wear?
Speaker 4: Manow I don't wear makeup. It's just what's all over
Speaker 4: your face? I said, love?
Speaker 3: Did she get it? I hope she got it?
Speaker 4: You know what. I tried to talk to her afterwards
Speaker 4: and she just really had no time, but I got it.
Speaker 4: It was funny to me.
Speaker 2: So I want to pull if you're willing, I want
Speaker 2: to pull back the curtain little bit. So do you
Speaker 2: have in these situations you're you're in character, You've created
Speaker 2: a character, but you don't have a script. Right, it's
Speaker 2: not like you're writing anything or anybody else is writing
Speaker 2: this for you. You have to improvise in character. Do
Speaker 2: you have a director, do you have a producer that's
Speaker 2: helping you or how does that work?
Speaker 4: That's me, just you, that's me.
Speaker 2: So you would walk into situations where some people would
Speaker 2: be themselves interviewers or whatever, and you would be in character.
Speaker 2: Would you stay in character when the cameras were off.
Speaker 4: Amazing, Yes, my philosophy, and I don't I wouldn't say
Speaker 4: I would ever go to the extent of a Jim
Speaker 4: Carrey being Andy Kaufman. But if you are in the
Speaker 4: character and you stay in the character, there's especially one
Speaker 4: as extreme as that. If you go in and out,
Speaker 4: people get lost and it's like, who am I talking
Speaker 4: right now? Talking brother love God, it's just referred to
Speaker 4: myself and third person.
Speaker 6: Danielle does it sometimes too, Yeah, you said and brother
Speaker 6: love you kind of double third person, which is very impressive.
Speaker 4: But if you're but if you're in character, you stay
Speaker 4: in character, and you you that's who they'refore therefore, so
Speaker 4: I would I would pretty much stay in character and
Speaker 4: walk in his brother love, walk out his brother loves.
Speaker 5: But you to give you your flowers a little bit.
Speaker 6: You're a little bit unique in that in that not all,
Speaker 6: not all wrestlers have that ability to be self directed,
Speaker 6: self produced, self written. There are other writers and producers
Speaker 6: who work with other wrestlers. Absolutely, you currently like, produce,
Speaker 6: direct and write for lots of people. But that's because
Speaker 6: that's your skill and your talent. So you were doing
Speaker 6: that for you as Brother Love. But that's not necessarily
Speaker 6: the truth for every wrestler.
Speaker 4: That's that's true. We have an entire staff of folks
Speaker 4: that help with that. I think at the time I
Speaker 4: was still doing that for other talent, and I guess
Speaker 4: it was easier for me because I was working with
Speaker 4: other talent. So I was producing and directing them while
Speaker 4: I was working with them. So, as Brother Love, I
Speaker 4: would get them to where they needed to go. I
Speaker 4: would get them to the point of here's what you're
Speaker 4: going to say, and I would lead them there and
Speaker 4: I would take them on that ride. So was producing
Speaker 4: and directing literally on the spot five as we go.
Speaker 1: Who was your favorite wrestler to work with in that capacity?
Speaker 4: Wow? You know in the time, you know, Hulk Hogan
Speaker 4: was magic.
Speaker 1: Really August eleventh, Brother, Hulk Cogan, August eleventh, Brother, thank
Speaker 1: you very much.
Speaker 2: Important fact.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is, It's crazy. It was. That was where
Speaker 4: I felt just you would have goosebumps all over your
Speaker 4: entire body. And he was.
Speaker 2: Just because of his acting ability, his performance.
Speaker 4: The charisma, the feeling from the audience. The audience was
Speaker 4: so into his presence that you felt this holy cow man,
Speaker 4: it's they wanted him to kill me. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 4: that's great. I mean, there were so many Undertaker absolutely
Speaker 4: love working with the Undertaker because it was easy. You
Speaker 4: didn't have to I didn't have to think about things.
Speaker 4: And then there were guys that, you know, rest their souls,
Speaker 4: Dino Bravo, Ron Bass, they couldn't put two sentences together
Speaker 4: that I would just have to do it for them,
Speaker 4: say in that right, you know?
Speaker 3: For yeah, did you notice that?
Speaker 1: So some people talk about the shift that was noticed
Speaker 1: in wrestling pre Hulkgan and post Hulkgan, where he kind
Speaker 1: of changed the game. Did that Have there been other
Speaker 1: wrestlers that you've noticed that with where when they come
Speaker 1: in it's kind of everything seems different after they're there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. You know, the Stone Cold, Steve
Speaker 4: Austin and Rock during the Attitude era had a definite
Speaker 4: shift in the way people viewed the business and what
Speaker 4: they accepted what they didn't. After that, you had the
Speaker 4: John Cena era, where John was a little more wholesome
Speaker 4: and different than those that came before him. I think
Speaker 4: right now we're in a shift with Cody Rhodes and
Speaker 4: the talent that we have now that the business is cyclical,
Speaker 4: some people would argue that after fifty years in it.
Speaker 4: I go, you know what, it's been cyclical in the
Speaker 4: last six years of my life. So it I think
Speaker 4: the the audience kind of changes, and I think those
Speaker 4: that were fans years and years ago may now have
Speaker 4: grandkids that they want to bring and show them, and
Speaker 4: that's their excuse for doing it. I want to take
Speaker 4: my grandkids, which is cool because it's family. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: Since Brother Love was such method character work, did you
Speaker 6: ever want to act outside of wrestling.
Speaker 4: I don't think I could do that.
Speaker 3: I think it's too I bet you could, Oh, I
Speaker 3: bet you could.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you could.
Speaker 3: I bet you could.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: I have the utmost respect for anybody that can learn,
Speaker 4: that can learn lines, learn marks. I don't know if
Speaker 4: I could do it because, and I say it because
Speaker 4: I've been so used to add living. I've been so
Speaker 4: used to If this doesn't work in this moment, I'm
Speaker 4: going over here. And I am the utmost respect for that,
Speaker 4: because that's hard. I've tried it. I've tried to just
Speaker 4: little things like commercials in Februy you got to hit
Speaker 4: this mark. You gotta do it like this, can we
Speaker 4: do it? You know on the nineteenth take, it's like
Speaker 4: you know where you can go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know, man, that's craft. That's that you
Speaker 2: can learn. I feel like having the story, character instincts
Speaker 2: and and the ability to sort of read the room
Speaker 2: or read the beats and shift that is acting.
Speaker 3: That is the truth.
Speaker 2: That's the talent, learning all the lines and stuff. If
Speaker 2: you figure that out, I would I would argue you
Speaker 2: already have everything it takes. You just have to do
Speaker 2: it more if you just got into it. You know,
Speaker 2: it is tedious, it's not. That's the not fun part,
Speaker 2: the learning the lines, the hitting the marks. But that's
Speaker 2: the part that that doesn't require your own you know, animation,
Speaker 2: your own sort of like spirit with you when you
Speaker 2: bring Yeah, that's a technical site of craft. I think
Speaker 2: I think you've already got in spades what you know
Speaker 2: what real acting requires.
Speaker 4: Well, I would argue that I just reac act actor
Speaker 4: and then an actor.
Speaker 2: That's the same thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So your son is named kin after the wrestler.
Speaker 5: Did he ever want to enter the business.
Speaker 4: He had a fleeting moment where he went booker t
Speaker 4: has a school outside of Houston where we lived, and
Speaker 4: Kine went and trained with him for a little bit.
Speaker 4: But I think his dream at that point in his
Speaker 4: life when he was still young, was still football and
Speaker 4: he wanted to play football really bad. And then COVID
Speaker 4: hit and so on and so forth, and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: you have to adjust, But yes he did and didn't
Speaker 4: discourage it. But I also didn't encourage it, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: So actually, see Undertaker was Kane before Kine was Kane,
Speaker 4: and then Kane just was there's a good story. And
Speaker 4: then I was having twins, boy and a girl, and
Speaker 4: my wife got okay. She told me I can name
Speaker 4: my daughter and she would name my son. The only
Speaker 4: rule was that I couldn't name my daughter after a
Speaker 4: stripper and he couldn't be a stripper name. And so
Speaker 4: I went with Amber Nicole and I had heard that
Speaker 4: one before. And one of the like the second names
Speaker 4: she had on her list was Cain, and she didn't
Speaker 4: know the story of Cain and Kane. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: this works, and I kid you not. After my daughter
Speaker 4: was born, I went into a gentleman's establishment and then
Speaker 4: got a beer and it was like all right, emburd
Speaker 4: Sage Shoe Emberd is second stage and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: out of here, gotta go.
Speaker 3: Even on the main stage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, amber Sage too, all right, how much you appreciate her?
Speaker 4: Come on down? Only costs a dollar terrible in the world.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I says, I'm on gentlemen's clubs. The last
Speaker 4: time that I went into a gentleman's club was six
Speaker 4: years ago, and I had not been in one in
Speaker 4: for like so many years. It's just you grow up
Speaker 4: and it's just not not your bag. And I went
Speaker 4: in a bunch of guys with me and I got
Speaker 4: a drink and there was a tag on their ankle
Speaker 4: and I said, what is that. Oh that's their id,
Speaker 4: because at nineteen they can still get naked, but they
Speaker 4: can't drink.
Speaker 9: I'm out. And I'm like, well, I'm out. I can't
Speaker 9: do this. I don't know you. It just kids changes
Speaker 9: you for them.
Speaker 5: Oh, yes, absolutely, Oh yes they do. That's a hundred percent.
Speaker 5: Right now.
Speaker 6: We talk a lot about the nineties here. Who would
Speaker 6: you say is the most underrated wrestler of the nineties.
Speaker 4: Wow, I would Oh boy, it's funny because we were
Speaker 4: talking about this just the other day. And I don't
Speaker 4: know that he was underrated, but I think he was underappreciated.
Speaker 4: And that is Kane from this standpoint. He was the
Speaker 4: guy that was always there. You could put him in
Speaker 4: any situation and he would deliver. But he wasn't always
Speaker 4: in that top spot, but he could have been. If
Speaker 4: one guy got hurt, you plugged Caine in, and he
Speaker 4: was that utility guy that could do everything and do
Speaker 4: it well. So he's one of those guys that I
Speaker 4: think people took for granted.
Speaker 6: Okay, Now, if we had to bet on someone now,
Speaker 6: someone young and emerging in the WWE, to become the
Speaker 6: next household name, where do you suggest we put our money.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, obviously I've got to go with Cody
Speaker 4: Rhoades right now, who is just absolutely red hot. When
Speaker 4: you look down, uh down that pipeline and you look
Speaker 4: to the future ten years from now, I look at
Speaker 4: guys like Ron Breaker and Trick Williams that are going
Speaker 4: to be those stars that are going to be the
Speaker 4: ones that everyone is talking about, and it's built around that. Really,
Speaker 4: have you know they've got they've got that?
Speaker 1: It would you put Danielle Fischel as a heel or
Speaker 1: as a hero in the record heel.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all the way.
Speaker 5: Yes, oh man, you're right.
Speaker 6: I have Everyone would assume I'm going to be a babyface,
Speaker 6: so you gotta send me in as a heel.
Speaker 4: No, you would be a heartbreaking heel.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 6: I do have a real it's kind of a secret goal,
Speaker 6: but at some point in my life I want to
Speaker 6: be put through a table.
Speaker 3: I can make that happen.
Speaker 2: That's not that hard.
Speaker 3: All you have to do is ask one of us,
Speaker 3: daniell I mean in a wrestling race.
Speaker 2: Just turned to us and we'll do it.
Speaker 3: I would have thrown it through a table years ago.
Speaker 2: Danielle.
Speaker 5: Serious, that's so sweet of you.
Speaker 4: Like, what do you doing tonight? Hey?
Speaker 6: You know, with your storied history in business, what storyline
Speaker 6: or character would you say you're most proud of?
Speaker 4: I think the most fun because it was Eddie Guerrero
Speaker 4: was great, great talent, Ray Mysterio equally great talent, and
Speaker 4: we did a storyline where Eddie Guerrero claimed that Ray
Speaker 4: Mysterios Sun was his. And how how we got there
Speaker 4: was I read Eddie's biography and Eddie had put a
Speaker 4: book out and in the book, Eddie talks about the
Speaker 4: time that he was separated from his wife and had
Speaker 4: a child out of wedlock. That was all he said,
Speaker 4: And the timeline kind of matched up, but didn't all
Speaker 4: the way match up, but it was close enough. And
Speaker 4: maybe somebody posed the question to them, Hey, what if
Speaker 4: what if that child or Dominica mysterio? What if there
Speaker 4: was a time in Eddie's life and time in Angie's life.
Speaker 4: Maybe one night something happened never told Ray and it
Speaker 4: was it was touchy because again, you're dealing with real
Speaker 4: people in real lives. Right. Eddie was just getting back
Speaker 4: with his wife Vicki at the time and happy they
Speaker 4: had children of their own school age. Ray and Angie
Speaker 4: had two children, and that's real life. You can't. We
Speaker 4: can write all the stories in our world that we
Speaker 4: want to, but people still believe it. And when it's
Speaker 4: the real person and it makes sense, and you can go.
Speaker 9: Well, I bet that Andy Greer one not just had
Speaker 9: his what and and it.
Speaker 4: All We did some horribly great things with that where
Speaker 4: Andy I wanted to put dominic on a pole and
Speaker 4: the winner, whoever could climb the pole and get Dominick
Speaker 4: could get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, claim fraternity.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a storyline that's still prevalent.
Speaker 6: Don that child, the child they're talking about Don Mysterio
Speaker 6: is a wrestler now, a big wrestler, So that's a
Speaker 6: storyline that's gone decades.
Speaker 4: And hates his dad Ray because he because uncle Eddie.
Speaker 4: He was really maybe Daddy Eddie and oh man, and
Speaker 4: every time Dom says something stupid, I just say, Eddie
Speaker 4: would be so so sad. Wow, that was you know,
Speaker 4: I look at the because it's based in reality. People
Speaker 4: couldn't poke holes in it, right, because there was just
Speaker 4: enough information out there that you could say this could happen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: But at the same time, you're going, do you all.
Speaker 6: The great makings of a perfect conspiracy theory?
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, and anything that is based that is based
Speaker 4: in the.
Speaker 5: Kernel of truth.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. That was a fun one. That was That
Speaker 4: was great and the Undertaker and Kine just coming up
Speaker 4: with that story because that was ongoing as well. That
Speaker 4: it just kept getting more and more bizarre. And characters
Speaker 4: are so bizarre they let themselves to You can do
Speaker 4: anything with this. That was good.
Speaker 2: If you're willing. I'd love to hear an example of
Speaker 2: the flip side a time when something didn't work where
Speaker 2: you did, you had you were sure something was perfect,
Speaker 2: and either the audience didn't react or the wrestlers themselves
Speaker 2: didn't like the story and you couldn't go there.
Speaker 4: God, we don't have enough time.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're doing all the time, you're pitching
Speaker 2: ideas and getting shot down? Or at the time, yeah.
Speaker 4: The time, I mean we had and sometimes life just
Speaker 4: it just happens. We did a scenario one time where
Speaker 4: we had a bunch of guys go down dressed all
Speaker 4: in black and be undertaken with the club and carry
Speaker 4: them out over their heads. The day before it was
Speaker 4: to air, guys, they bombed the subway in London and
Speaker 4: people were dressed exactly like now. We had pre peaked
Speaker 4: ours the week before, so we knew nothing. You know,
Speaker 4: obviously couldn't tell the future.
Speaker 7: It's tape upn already had the tape and we're like,
Speaker 7: you can't air this, you cannot air this, and.
Speaker 4: And that was that was not good. But a lot
Speaker 4: of oh yeah, well Friar Ferguson. We had a guy
Speaker 4: dressed up as like a monk, as a friar, and yeah,
Speaker 4: the audience will tell you quickly right away.
Speaker 1: So I remember hearing something about wasn't there a guy
Speaker 1: that was originally going to be pushed just called puke
Speaker 1: who could make himself throw up kind of like on command.
Speaker 4: Darren Rosov, great guy. He played for the Denver Broncos
Speaker 4: and was famous for he was a nose tackle and
Speaker 4: his nerves would get to him and he lined up
Speaker 4: on the ball and puked over the ball for the snap.
Speaker 4: That's disgusting. Yeah, and he came he was trained to
Speaker 4: be a wrestler, and that was his claim to fame,
Speaker 4: that he could puke on command.
Speaker 2: Oh god.
Speaker 4: So in a documentary interview, Vince tried to get him
Speaker 4: too puke and he couldn't do it. And I tried
Speaker 4: to get him to the same thing. I tried to
Speaker 4: get him to do it one time. Did you guys
Speaker 4: have a football, Yeah, that's what you need. But he
Speaker 4: I gotta have some water, I got to do this
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. But yes, we sure did. The
Speaker 4: problem was getting him to do.
Speaker 5: It on que couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah it happened. That's funny.
Speaker 6: Well, Bruce, we know how unbelievably busy you are, and
Speaker 6: we are so appreciative that you joined us, and I
Speaker 6: just would like to remind everybody Bruce's podcast is something
Speaker 6: to wrestle with Bruce Pritchard, tons of great behind the
Speaker 6: scenes wrestling stories from one of the most creative minds
Speaker 6: molding it. So thank you so much for being a
Speaker 6: part of the Boy Meets World journey and we're just
Speaker 6: so happy you made the time to stop by.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. I know less or hard
Speaker 4: whoever had just continually Uh that was.
Speaker 6: My husband, my husband Jensen, who who worked me two
Speaker 6: thousand and five.
Speaker 4: I know, and I felt so bad because like during
Speaker 4: the time it's going into WrestleMania at a point where
Speaker 4: I'm looking through things and it's like, don't need answer now, next, next, next, next,
Speaker 4: and I don't. I don't always get back and then.
Speaker 4: But I knew it was coming this week. I am
Speaker 4: extremely guys, really thankful, and I appreciate you asking me
Speaker 4: because it to this day, it's one of those shows
Speaker 4: that if it's on I just stop and watch it
Speaker 4: because again it gives me good mindless entertainment that I
Speaker 4: can laugh and I go, hey, I know them. So
Speaker 4: it was a lot of fun and I really appreciate
Speaker 4: the ask and I wish you guys the absolute best
Speaker 4: and Marks Tall.
Speaker 1: It is Marks fault and anytime, it would just anytime
Speaker 1: you'd like to bring Danielle down and put her through
Speaker 1: a table rider, and I are with that, and we
Speaker 1: will be there front and center.
Speaker 4: Jensen, get the table.
Speaker 10: Thank you man. Those are some stories.
Speaker 1: That's a guy where you go to dinner or something
Speaker 1: and you just keep your mouth shut and he'll keep
Speaker 1: you entertained all night long with story.
Speaker 2: His entire life has been entertainment, such good entertainment, so fascinating. God,
Speaker 2: do you guys know what your wrestling characters would be.
Speaker 6: I'd have to be We've already decided that I would
Speaker 6: be a heel. I think i'd be a manager. I'd
Speaker 6: be a heel manager, so I'd manage a wrestler and
Speaker 6: I'd just be a terrible person.
Speaker 3: I think I'd a guy.
Speaker 2: You'd have to you'd have to be super Phil Freedol. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it'd be like the like the superhero, maybe a little
Speaker 2: past his prime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it will be like, yeah, come on, guys,
Speaker 1: we don't need to We don't need to wrestle yourself.
Speaker 2: Do we have to leave home to wrestle I assume.
Speaker 3: You writer would just be called the poet. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: that's your character.
Speaker 2: I'd just be this emo, hipster, pretentious. I would just
Speaker 2: get into the ring and cry on people. I just
Speaker 2: cry on small match bourbon. Yes, emotional deflection, don't you understand.
Speaker 2: And I'd bring up my own like coffee roasting. I'd
Speaker 2: like make my own like I'd be a barista, yeah, mixologist.
Speaker 4: How do we not.
Speaker 3: Start this right away, this wrestling program.
Speaker 6: Yeah, his finishing move is the smelt.
Speaker 2: I love it or no, I just I just make
Speaker 2: you us out reading poetry.
Speaker 5: Bor us to death.
Speaker 2: And now William Wordsworth, let's go.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Another great name for you would be the wordsmith. That's
Speaker 1: another word, great wrestling name, the word smith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the emo wordsmith.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode
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