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Speaker 2: No oh, automatic driving car?

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Speaker 3: Is the auto driving cars? How was it?

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Speaker 1: And this car shows up with all these lights on

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Speaker 4: I have video of this.

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Speaker 3: They put me in the front of the car.

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Speaker 1: The car then sinks to her phone, so her playlist

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Speaker 1: Like so they have done this all the time. They

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Speaker 3: It's mapped out, it's it sees everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing a pilot program right now in LA.

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Speaker 1: But no freeway, I guess, because that would be I

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Speaker 2: That makes sense to me because it's almost like I

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Speaker 2: You know what I can't stand is like my wife

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Speaker 3: The worst when you're driving and all of a sudden, God, yeah, I'd.

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Speaker 2: Rather it be fully automatic or nothing at all. You know,

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Speaker 5: And I I want to do it.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy. I'll show you the video the.

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Speaker 6: Pilot program in LA can you Can you arrange for

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Speaker 2: You had to have signed up for it ahead of time.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you can join it now, but I think for

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Speaker 1: Can I ask who would name a company that drives

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Speaker 2: Like, who is these?

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Speaker 3: Who is this four?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: There's nobody driving.

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Speaker 2: You just put a scream. You can watch a movie.

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Speaker 3: It's like, why are their wind show wipers?

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Speaker 1: What? What is the point of this? It's like a

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 2: So are you are you?

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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I do it again.

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Speaker 2: You're sold, You're ready.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm sold, but it was. It's

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Speaker 1: Unique kind of crazy experience. I'm glad I experienced it.

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Speaker 1: I would do it again again. It was a fishing

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Speaker 2: There's so many weird ramification, right. I mean, there's the

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Speaker 2: So life is a trade off.

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Speaker 2: I'm righter, strong, and I'm Wilfredo. Guys, what the kids

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Speaker 3: That wouldn't go everywhere. Six months later, the tour is back.

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Speaker 6: We have rescheduled Durham, North Carolina. We will be inside

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Speaker 5: Of our most requested guests by fans. It's the man.

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Speaker 6: Who loves you, WWE s Bruce Pritchard.

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Speaker 4: Hey, where's genius?

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Speaker 5: Genius?

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Speaker 4: Hey, we're finally here.

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Speaker 6: You made it, and let me tell you, we are

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Speaker 5: When we recently rewatched.

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Speaker 6: You were pulling triple duty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and dealing with dealing with my own set of

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Speaker 6: That's actually the thing I want to know most is

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Speaker 5: What was that night like for you?

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Speaker 4: Corey and he had them all down ringside. You're trying

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Speaker 4: oh hey, Bruce, are you done Bruce in your movie?

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Speaker 2: So Bruce, I was there. I was one of the actors.

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Speaker 4: You know that night we were probably in the nine

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 2: See on Boy met we were used to performing in

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Speaker 5: Is that correct?

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Speaker 4: And in the midst of it, Jake's looking yeah, Jake

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Speaker 4: what are we doing here? You know, wrap this up,

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Speaker 4: And we would have, but it's a different animal. It's

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Speaker 4: you do. We can improvise, we can okay, Hey, they're

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Speaker 4: Now that was a bad take. I think it was.

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Speaker 4: Let's get another one. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, we did a full take of all the things

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would like to know. Do we have Mark

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Speaker 6: Blutman to blame for this? To blame Mark?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's easy to blame Mark.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy to blame Mark and probably the right

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Speaker 2: He's not here.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that's a standard for everything, whatever

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Speaker 1: I have a question when it comes to so creating

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Speaker 3: That now part of the wrestling world? Is Vader?

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Speaker 4: No, And I think that I think that you got

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Speaker 4: They knew.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: That helped, you know, it definitely helps in the audience's

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Speaker 6: Well, we may be underestimating how popular Boy Meets World

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Speaker 3: And then we were on the wrong side.

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Speaker 6: Which was I you know, looking back, when you're not

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Speaker 5: And the writer can explain, we had no clue.

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Speaker 2: No, well, we had no clue because I knew nothing

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Speaker 5: Like people would be screaming at you, and.

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Speaker 2: Though, of course, well it makes perfect sense when you

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, Ethan said, he actually fought back just out

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Speaker 5: And then he's like, wait, what am I doing?

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Speaker 3: Need this part of the show.

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Speaker 5: This is the part of the show. I need your

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's the best.

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Speaker 1: Now, the match itself that night between Vader and Jake

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cool.

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Speaker 6: And correct me also if I'm wrong, because some of

444
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,479
Speaker 6: this is just a little confusing for our for our

445
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 6: brains to wrap around. But the stuff that we were shooting,

446
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 6: the stuff with Ethan there and the guys in the ring,

447
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 6: didn't actually air on the WWF side. It was right,

448
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 6: So like when Will asked the question about now does

449
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 6: Vader have a son? The stuff we were shooting wasn't

450
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 6: airing for the televised WWF crowd.

451
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 5: It was just the live audience who was seeing.

452
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: Well, but no, the actual but the why of the

453
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 2: ring we had to have shown.

454
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 5: Up in the ring, right, I don't think you didn't.

455
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 4: We didn't use any of that for any of our time? Right?

456
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 3: What about the entrance?

457
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: Was the entrance when because there he's flanked by Frankie

458
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: and Corey and Sean.

459
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: Was the entrance aired for w W E or no? No?

460
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 7: Now?

461
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 4: That was then for Boy Meets World? Interesting?

462
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 5: That's so cool.

463
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 4: Audience never got to see it.

464
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: What a production.

465
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 1: There's two massive shows, one of them live in front

466
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: of ten thousand people going on at the same time.

467
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: Yep, crazy.

468
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask you guys question. Yeah, okay, whoever

469
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 4: got really close to Leon when he was sweaty? Oh?

470
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 2: Me Will all the time, and Will got picked up

471
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: by him.

472
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 3: He would pick me up.

473
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: So I was the guy that he would always pick

474
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: up and bench press over his head and then throw

475
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: me on his shoulder.

476
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 3: It became like our thing. So yes, there was. He

477
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: would baby oil himself up and then get all sweaty.

478
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 2: The smell of gold bond powder.

479
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah and uh and use his rubber bands to get

480
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: his shoulders working, and then he would grab me.

481
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was.

482
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 6: Is that the only smell you remember is the smell

483
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 6: of gold bond powder and baby oil and baby ol?

484
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 5: Okay?

485
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a guy though, What a guy? When he

486
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: told his stories about coming up and what it took

487
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: to become a professional wrestler in some of the places

488
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: that he started wrestling in and some of the small

489
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 1: kind of pits and dens that he started in. And

490
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: he told us one story about getting stabbed and another

491
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: one about putting his eye back in himself. I mean,

492
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: it was telling the stories of what it took to

493
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: get to that level of w w F at the time.

494
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: But w w E is they're amazing.

495
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 4: And Leon Leon was a tremendous athlete. He truly was.

496
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 4: He was a big man, great athlete, played football at

497
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,239
Speaker 4: Colorado and he you know, he had an r about him.

498
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: Great athlete, absolutely incredible athlete. We used to call it

499
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 4: if he would like grab you or he would pat

500
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 4: you and oh hey thanks, you just got Vader, he said,

501
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 4: is all you can smell for the rest of the day.

502
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 4: And it was like you would take you take your

503
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 4: jacket off.

504
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: And it was like you swear, I can't get rid

505
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: of it.

506
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 4: Einfeld episode where the stinky Valet stinky car couldn't get

507
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 4: rid of it. It was absolutely damnar impossible, and it's

508
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: Vader had a lot of a lot of funny, funny

509
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 4: stories about him from the standpoint the links that he

510
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 4: would go through to get out of something. So if

511
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 4: he didn't want to go to Canada, he had a

512
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 4: what they call a minister's permit to get him into Canada.

513
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 4: Because of some issues he had had in the past,

514
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 4: it was difficult to travel internationally and Leon didn't particularly

515
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: want to Canada. It was his minister's permit had lapsed,

516
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: but there was another one in the works. It was

517
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: all in the computer. All they had to do was

518
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: look it up. And Leon flies to Canada, goes to

519
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 4: the customs agent and says, you can't let me in

520
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: my see my bussor's permit has expired. I need to

521
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: go home. And he goes, oh, no, I recognize you.

522
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 4: You're okay, Yeah, you're right. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

523
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: it's expired. See look it's aspired. Goes yeah, but they

524
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 4: put the paperwork in. It's in our computer. You're okay

525
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: to go, goes.

526
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: No.

527
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: You don't understand. I can't. I have to go back

528
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: to the States. Right, No, because he just.

529
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: Wanted to go home, he didn't want the job.

530
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: He flies all the way there just to country away,

531
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: right right.

532
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: He fulfilled his duty.

533
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 5: As somebody who likes being home even more than Will.

534
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, really I would, because I never would have gotten

535
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: on the flight to Cannon in the first place.

536
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: I would have found an excuse on the way to

537
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: the airport.

538
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: You just would have gotten sick.

539
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, to do that.

540
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 6: So, Bruce, did you watch your episode of Boy Meets

541
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 6: World when it aired? And was there any pride for

542
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 6: you and being on a network show? Did anyone at

543
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 6: the WWF care?

544
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 4: Yes? I mean I got to tell you, you know,

545
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 4: for me, it was a thrill. That was a pretty

546
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 4: cool production to be a part of. First of all,

547
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: I was honored to even be asked, and yes, it's

548
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: Bloodlin's fault. But as we got into it and started

549
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: talking about people, I was suggesting other people to play

550
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: the role that I did, and He's like, hey, he goes,

551
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 4: could you do it? Nobody's gonna know who I am

552
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 4: because no, no, no, no, no, go brother, love do it?

553
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 4: I said, oh, well, you know, I don't know, and

554
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: I didn't think it fit, but personally, very selfishly glad

555
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: it did. Of course I watched it. Yeah, absolutely, you know,

556
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 4: I loved it. That was a big thrill. And when

557
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: my kids got old enough because I didn't have kids.

558
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 4: My kids are twenty five now, but when they got

559
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: old enough, I used to, you know, show them the table.

560
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 4: See that was another TV too real TV.

561
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 5: Well, do people still mention it to you now?

562
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 6: Like the WWE Superstars now are kind of like the

563
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 6: perfect Boy Meets World age?

564
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 5: So do people still mention it to you?

565
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: Yes? And especially whenever, you know, whenever it's on the cycle,

566
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 4: the syndication and the show hits, I always get, you know,

567
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: those tweets or what have you and messages or hell

568
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: my god, I didn't know you were on Boy Meets World,

569
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 4: so you know, yeah, it was And for me, I think,

570
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: you know, Boy Meets World along was saved by the bell.

571
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 4: We're kind of like my guilty pleasures of just when

572
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: you need It's going to sound terrible, but I mean

573
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: in the best way. When you need mindless entertainment and

574
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: you just want to chuckle yep, and you want it, man,

575
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: entertain me. Don't don't give me something serious here. I

576
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: think everybody could relate to Boy Meets World. You know,

577
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 4: it was something that is relatable, right a passage growing

578
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 4: up as a kid. Everybody went through that.

579
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: How did you find yourself in the wrestling business.

580
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: It's all I've done since I was ten years old.

581
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: Wow, just like like I know, it's a magical age

582
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: to find who you want to be ten for some reason.

583
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you just continue every time, you know, I had,

584
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: I had dreams as a kid what I wanted to

585
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 4: do and where I wanted to be. I was very

586
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: fortunate that by the time I was twenty five years old,

587
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 4: I had reached ninety nine percent of my goals. Wow,

588
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: but oh wow, what do I do now? I figured

589
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: it out? You've gream bigger and more so. It was

590
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 4: it's a passion for me. I love what I do.

591
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: I love the business, I love the company, and it's

592
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: it's just something where you can I haven't had I

593
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: haven't had to go to work a lot of time.

594
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: So what ignited the passion? You were ten years old

595
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: and it was watching a wrestling match on television or

596
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: was it going to a match.

597
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 4: It was in Paso, Texas, and I saw the Funk

598
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 4: Story and Terry Funk wrestling on TV in a black

599
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 4: and white TV that was in our kitchen. The Funks,

600
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 4: who were the good guys, they were like, you know,

601
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 4: the hometown they were brothers and their dad was a wrestler.

602
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: By God, this was a family from Texas, by God,

603
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: from a barber, Texas, and they were they were wrestling

604
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: the von Bromner's Evil Germans, and one of the Von

605
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 4: Bromers had a pair of scissors and was cutting off

606
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: Terry Funk's ear and Terry was bleeding and I was crying,

607
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: and I was begging my mom, by God, we've got

608
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: to help him. We've got to figure out some way

609
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: to help him. And my Mom's like, be quiet and

610
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: meet your dinner. This was this was done a long

611
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: time ago. Wow. I was like, what you know when

612
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: you're when you're four years old, you don't know about videotape.

613
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 4: You don't well, I don't know they had videotape, but

614
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: you don't know about pre recording something. And my brother

615
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: and I just always wanted to be wrestlers. He always

616
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: wanted to be a business and he started taking pictures.

617
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 4: I started selling posters. Was my first job. And it

618
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: was crazy.

619
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: Who was your favorite wrestler growing up? Were you a

620
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: Jerry Lawler fan? Or who did you love?

621
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: Oh god, no, My favorites growing up were the funks

622
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: because that was my first exposure to the business. They

623
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: were presented to me as the end all be all.

624
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: Funk became world champion when I was very young. Terry

625
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: soon after that. It was those were my childhood heroes,

626
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: and I eventually got to the point where I met them,

627
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 4: worked with them, and became friends with them. So that

628
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: was kind of kind of crazy.

629
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 6: And how was the brother Love character born for WWF

630
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 6: at the time? Did you always feel comfortable as a heel?

631
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: Oh? God, yes, look I mean in school I was

632
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: a heel. I always felt I just wanted to get

633
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: a reaction, whether it was from teachers or other students,

634
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: whatever it is. So yes, I loved being a heel.

635
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: I loved being booed. I love people hating me. Brother

636
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: Love is a product of the South. As a kid

637
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: growing up on Sundays your only TV before noon ision,

638
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: and so as I grew up, and for example, in Tulsa, Oklahoma,

639
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: we did TV. We would record television on Sunday night.

640
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: Then we would record what we call our local lies

641
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 4: promos on Monday morning. So we stayed in this little

642
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: town called Bixby, Oklahoma. On Sunday night, you know what

643
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 4: is on TV and Bixby, Oklahoma. On Sunday Night. You

644
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: had Oral Roberts, you have Robert Tilton, you had Jim Baker,

645
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: and you had Jimmy Swagger. And they were mesmerizing to

646
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 4: me right in the fact that they could. Robert Tilton

647
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: had a spill. His television show was called Success in Life,

648
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 4: and he would explain to you, why if you have

649
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 4: faith in him, and you have faith in your saviors

650
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: of the Lord Jesus Christ, then send me what you have.

651
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: If you only have a dollar, we'll send me fifty cents.

652
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 4: I'm gona tell you what's gonna happen. The Good Order

653
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: is going to reward you with three dollars you're gonna

654
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 4: send me to you're back even then. You know what

655
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 4: you're gonna do from there, and you're gonna make all

656
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: this money and you're gonna send seventy percent of it

657
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: to him every time you make it. That's what they

658
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: call success in life. And I'm listening to this, going,

659
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: oh my god, this is great because I know there

660
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 4: are people sending him money.

661
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 6: Right yeah, and they're going, yes, if I just just

662
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 6: keep making money to stay even.

663
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: Winning, if I can just break even, I am winning

664
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: and that was.

665
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: Success in life, and I thought that was genius. So

666
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 4: that was like the most beautiful, simplest, pure message, and

667
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: it was all BS and it was beautifully done, so

668
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: believable that I knew that if I could convince people

669
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: the same way and get people to hate me as

670
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: much as I hated them.

671
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: Then I would have won.

672
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 4: The brutes in the South. I love to watch the televangelists,

673
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: the old time evangelists come to town. And no kidding,

674
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: we had a tent Baptist church right by my house

675
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 4: and I used to I was one of those kids

676
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: that would get on my belly and go underneath the

677
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 4: tent to watch the the revivals, just for an entertainment.

678
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Well that's so interesting too that you took

679
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: this charisma right, this presentation, and rather than saying, maybe

680
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: I want to be a preacher, maybe that's something I

681
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: can do, you said, how can I how can I

682
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: you know, sort of make a show out of this,

683
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: How can I make a character out of it? That's

684
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: really brilliant, that's really cool.

685
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: Exactly, And I remember, you know, all they asked about

686
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: Brother Love and I remember an interview Brother Love was

687
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: timing and it was freak timing because I debuted in

688
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 4: eighty eight, three weeks after I debuted the Jim and

689
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 4: Tammy Baker scandal.

690
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: I have said, Han, it hits, So your story just

691
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: resonated perfectly.

692
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 4: They all thought that I did it because of that response.

693
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 4: It was just luck timing, oh man, luck timing. And

694
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: Tammy fay Baker did an interview with Mareno Boyle from

695
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: a current affair and she was wearing makeup and Reno

696
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 4: Boile says, tell me, Tammy, you talk about being really

697
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: what's with all the makeup? And Tammy fay Bake with

698
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: the straight faces. I don't wear makeup.

699
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: And straight.

700
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: Lived it.

701
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 8: So when I did Brother Love, I did a testing

702
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 8: in the studio with all everything in the look and

703
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 8: as as a rib they put red makeup on my

704
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 8: face and I was wearing a white suit and the

705
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 8: white came out. I've got makeup everywhere, and I thought,

706
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 8: this is the greatest thing ever. From this vantage point,

707
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 8: I'm telling everyone I'm as real as it gets. What

708
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 8: I'm phony is you see it ten miles away, and

709
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 8: I use that Tammy Faye, you deny in the face

710
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 8: of reality. I was in a nappy convention the National

711
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 8: Association Television Programming Executives and I'm brother in love and

712
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 8: I kid you not. Maureene O'Boyle from a Current Affair

713
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 8: interviewed me and she looked at me and she says, so,

714
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 8: what's with the makeup?

715
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, okay.

716
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 5: Is this really happening?

717
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 4: Just what I answered her with?

718
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 5: What I don't wear?

719
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: Manow I don't wear makeup. It's just what's all over

720
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 4: your face? I said, love?

721
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: Did she get it? I hope she got it?

722
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: You know what. I tried to talk to her afterwards

723
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: and she just really had no time, but I got it.

724
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: It was funny to me.

725
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: So I want to pull if you're willing, I want

726
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: to pull back the curtain little bit. So do you

727
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: have in these situations you're you're in character, You've created

728
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 2: a character, but you don't have a script. Right, it's

729
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: not like you're writing anything or anybody else is writing

730
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: this for you. You have to improvise in character. Do

731
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: you have a director, do you have a producer that's

732
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: helping you or how does that work?

733
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 4: That's me, just you, that's me.

734
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: So you would walk into situations where some people would

735
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: be themselves interviewers or whatever, and you would be in character.

736
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: Would you stay in character when the cameras were off.

737
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 4: Amazing, Yes, my philosophy, and I don't I wouldn't say

738
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 4: I would ever go to the extent of a Jim

739
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 4: Carrey being Andy Kaufman. But if you are in the

740
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: character and you stay in the character, there's especially one

741
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 4: as extreme as that. If you go in and out,

742
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: people get lost and it's like, who am I talking

743
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: right now? Talking brother love God, it's just referred to

744
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 4: myself and third person.

745
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 6: Danielle does it sometimes too, Yeah, you said and brother

746
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 6: love you kind of double third person, which is very impressive.

747
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 4: But if you're but if you're in character, you stay

748
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: in character, and you you that's who they'refore therefore, so

749
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 4: I would I would pretty much stay in character and

750
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 4: walk in his brother love, walk out his brother loves.

751
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 5: But you to give you your flowers a little bit.

752
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 6: You're a little bit unique in that in that not all,

753
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 6: not all wrestlers have that ability to be self directed,

754
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 6: self produced, self written. There are other writers and producers

755
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 6: who work with other wrestlers. Absolutely, you currently like, produce,

756
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 6: direct and write for lots of people. But that's because

757
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 6: that's your skill and your talent. So you were doing

758
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 6: that for you as Brother Love. But that's not necessarily

759
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 6: the truth for every wrestler.

760
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 4: That's that's true. We have an entire staff of folks

761
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 4: that help with that. I think at the time I

762
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: was still doing that for other talent, and I guess

763
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: it was easier for me because I was working with

764
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: other talent. So I was producing and directing them while

765
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 4: I was working with them. So, as Brother Love, I

766
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: would get them to where they needed to go. I

767
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: would get them to the point of here's what you're

768
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: going to say, and I would lead them there and

769
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 4: I would take them on that ride. So was producing

770
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 4: and directing literally on the spot five as we go.

771
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: Who was your favorite wrestler to work with in that capacity?

772
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: Wow? You know in the time, you know, Hulk Hogan

773
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: was magic.

774
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: Really August eleventh, Brother, Hulk Cogan, August eleventh, Brother, thank

775
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: you very much.

776
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: Important fact.

777
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 4: Yes, it is, It's crazy. It was. That was where

778
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 4: I felt just you would have goosebumps all over your

779
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: entire body. And he was.

780
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: Just because of his acting ability, his performance.

781
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: The charisma, the feeling from the audience. The audience was

782
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 4: so into his presence that you felt this holy cow man,

783
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: it's they wanted him to kill me. Yeah, and that's

784
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: that's great. I mean, there were so many Undertaker absolutely

785
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 4: love working with the Undertaker because it was easy. You

786
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: didn't have to I didn't have to think about things.

787
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 4: And then there were guys that, you know, rest their souls,

788
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 4: Dino Bravo, Ron Bass, they couldn't put two sentences together

789
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 4: that I would just have to do it for them,

790
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 4: say in that right, you know?

791
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: For yeah, did you notice that?

792
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: So some people talk about the shift that was noticed

793
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: in wrestling pre Hulkgan and post Hulkgan, where he kind

794
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: of changed the game. Did that Have there been other

795
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: wrestlers that you've noticed that with where when they come

796
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: in it's kind of everything seems different after they're there.

797
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. You know, the Stone Cold, Steve

798
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 4: Austin and Rock during the Attitude era had a definite

799
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: shift in the way people viewed the business and what

800
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: they accepted what they didn't. After that, you had the

801
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 4: John Cena era, where John was a little more wholesome

802
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 4: and different than those that came before him. I think

803
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: right now we're in a shift with Cody Rhodes and

804
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 4: the talent that we have now that the business is cyclical,

805
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: some people would argue that after fifty years in it.

806
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: I go, you know what, it's been cyclical in the

807
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 4: last six years of my life. So it I think

808
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 4: the the audience kind of changes, and I think those

809
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: that were fans years and years ago may now have

810
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: grandkids that they want to bring and show them, and

811
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 4: that's their excuse for doing it. I want to take

812
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 4: my grandkids, which is cool because it's family. Mm hmmm.

813
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 6: Since Brother Love was such method character work, did you

814
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 6: ever want to act outside of wrestling.

815
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: I don't think I could do that.

816
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: I think it's too I bet you could, Oh, I

817
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 3: bet you could.

818
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: I'm sure you could.

819
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 3: I bet you could.

820
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

821
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 4: I have the utmost respect for anybody that can learn,

822
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: that can learn lines, learn marks. I don't know if

823
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: I could do it because, and I say it because

824
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: I've been so used to add living. I've been so

825
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 4: used to If this doesn't work in this moment, I'm

826
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 4: going over here. And I am the utmost respect for that,

827
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: because that's hard. I've tried it. I've tried to just

828
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 4: little things like commercials in Februy you got to hit

829
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: this mark. You gotta do it like this, can we

830
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: do it? You know on the nineteenth take, it's like

831
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: you know where you can go?

832
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know, man, that's craft. That's that you

833
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: can learn. I feel like having the story, character instincts

834
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: and and the ability to sort of read the room

835
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: or read the beats and shift that is acting.

836
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 3: That is the truth.

837
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: That's the talent, learning all the lines and stuff. If

838
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: you figure that out, I would I would argue you

839
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 2: already have everything it takes. You just have to do

840
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: it more if you just got into it. You know,

841
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: it is tedious, it's not. That's the not fun part,

842
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: the learning the lines, the hitting the marks. But that's

843
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: the part that that doesn't require your own you know, animation,

844
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: your own sort of like spirit with you when you

845
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: bring Yeah, that's a technical site of craft. I think

846
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: I think you've already got in spades what you know

847
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: what real acting requires.

848
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 4: Well, I would argue that I just reac act actor

849
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: and then an actor.

850
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: That's the same thing.

851
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, So your son is named kin after the wrestler.

852
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 5: Did he ever want to enter the business.

853
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: He had a fleeting moment where he went booker t

854
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: has a school outside of Houston where we lived, and

855
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 4: Kine went and trained with him for a little bit.

856
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 4: But I think his dream at that point in his

857
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 4: life when he was still young, was still football and

858
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: he wanted to play football really bad. And then COVID

859
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: hit and so on and so forth, and uh, you know,

860
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 4: you have to adjust, But yes he did and didn't

861
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: discourage it. But I also didn't encourage it, right, Yeah.

862
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: So actually, see Undertaker was Kane before Kine was Kane,

863
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 4: and then Kane just was there's a good story. And

864
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 4: then I was having twins, boy and a girl, and

865
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: my wife got okay. She told me I can name

866
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: my daughter and she would name my son. The only

867
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 4: rule was that I couldn't name my daughter after a

868
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: stripper and he couldn't be a stripper name. And so

869
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: I went with Amber Nicole and I had heard that

870
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: one before. And one of the like the second names

871
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: she had on her list was Cain, and she didn't

872
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 4: know the story of Cain and Kane. And I'm like, okay,

873
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 4: this works, and I kid you not. After my daughter

874
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 4: was born, I went into a gentleman's establishment and then

875
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: got a beer and it was like all right, emburd

876
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 4: Sage Shoe Emberd is second stage and I'm like, I'm

877
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: out of here, gotta go.

878
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: Even on the main stage.

879
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, amber Sage too, all right, how much you appreciate her?

880
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 4: Come on down? Only costs a dollar terrible in the world.

881
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I says, I'm on gentlemen's clubs. The last

882
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: time that I went into a gentleman's club was six

883
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: years ago, and I had not been in one in

884
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: for like so many years. It's just you grow up

885
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 4: and it's just not not your bag. And I went

886
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 4: in a bunch of guys with me and I got

887
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 4: a drink and there was a tag on their ankle

888
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 4: and I said, what is that. Oh that's their id,

889
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 4: because at nineteen they can still get naked, but they

890
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 4: can't drink.

891
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 9: I'm out. And I'm like, well, I'm out. I can't

892
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 9: do this. I don't know you. It just kids changes

893
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 9: you for them.

894
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 5: Oh, yes, absolutely, Oh yes they do. That's a hundred percent.

895
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 5: Right now.

896
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 6: We talk a lot about the nineties here. Who would

897
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 6: you say is the most underrated wrestler of the nineties.

898
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: Wow, I would Oh boy, it's funny because we were

899
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: talking about this just the other day. And I don't

900
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: know that he was underrated, but I think he was underappreciated.

901
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: And that is Kane from this standpoint. He was the

902
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: guy that was always there. You could put him in

903
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 4: any situation and he would deliver. But he wasn't always

904
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 4: in that top spot, but he could have been. If

905
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: one guy got hurt, you plugged Caine in, and he

906
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 4: was that utility guy that could do everything and do

907
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 4: it well. So he's one of those guys that I

908
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 4: think people took for granted.

909
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 6: Okay, Now, if we had to bet on someone now,

910
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 6: someone young and emerging in the WWE, to become the

911
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 6: next household name, where do you suggest we put our money.

912
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, obviously I've got to go with Cody

913
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 4: Rhoades right now, who is just absolutely red hot. When

914
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: you look down, uh down that pipeline and you look

915
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: to the future ten years from now, I look at

916
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: guys like Ron Breaker and Trick Williams that are going

917
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: to be those stars that are going to be the

918
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: ones that everyone is talking about, and it's built around that. Really,

919
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 4: have you know they've got they've got that?

920
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: It would you put Danielle Fischel as a heel or

921
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: as a hero in the record heel.

922
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all the way.

923
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 5: Yes, oh man, you're right.

924
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 6: I have Everyone would assume I'm going to be a babyface,

925
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 6: so you gotta send me in as a heel.

926
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 4: No, you would be a heartbreaking heel.

927
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 5: I love it.

928
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 4: I love it.

929
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 6: I do have a real it's kind of a secret goal,

930
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 6: but at some point in my life I want to

931
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 6: be put through a table.

932
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: I can make that happen.

933
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: That's not that hard.

934
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: All you have to do is ask one of us,

935
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: daniell I mean in a wrestling race.

936
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: Just turned to us and we'll do it.

937
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 3: I would have thrown it through a table years ago.

938
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: Danielle.

939
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 5: Serious, that's so sweet of you.

940
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 4: Like, what do you doing tonight? Hey?

941
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 6: You know, with your storied history in business, what storyline

942
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 6: or character would you say you're most proud of?

943
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 4: I think the most fun because it was Eddie Guerrero

944
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 4: was great, great talent, Ray Mysterio equally great talent, and

945
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 4: we did a storyline where Eddie Guerrero claimed that Ray

946
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 4: Mysterios Sun was his. And how how we got there

947
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: was I read Eddie's biography and Eddie had put a

948
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: book out and in the book, Eddie talks about the

949
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: time that he was separated from his wife and had

950
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 4: a child out of wedlock. That was all he said,

951
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: And the timeline kind of matched up, but didn't all

952
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 4: the way match up, but it was close enough. And

953
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 4: maybe somebody posed the question to them, Hey, what if

954
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 4: what if that child or Dominica mysterio? What if there

955
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 4: was a time in Eddie's life and time in Angie's life.

956
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 4: Maybe one night something happened never told Ray and it

957
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: was it was touchy because again, you're dealing with real

958
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 4: people in real lives. Right. Eddie was just getting back

959
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 4: with his wife Vicki at the time and happy they

960
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: had children of their own school age. Ray and Angie

961
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: had two children, and that's real life. You can't. We

962
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: can write all the stories in our world that we

963
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 4: want to, but people still believe it. And when it's

964
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 4: the real person and it makes sense, and you can go.

965
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 9: Well, I bet that Andy Greer one not just had

966
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 9: his what and and it.

967
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 4: All We did some horribly great things with that where

968
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: Andy I wanted to put dominic on a pole and

969
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 4: the winner, whoever could climb the pole and get Dominick

970
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: could get.

971
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, claim fraternity.

972
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a storyline that's still prevalent.

973
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 6: Don that child, the child they're talking about Don Mysterio

974
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 6: is a wrestler now, a big wrestler, So that's a

975
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 6: storyline that's gone decades.

976
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 4: And hates his dad Ray because he because uncle Eddie.

977
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 4: He was really maybe Daddy Eddie and oh man, and

978
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 4: every time Dom says something stupid, I just say, Eddie

979
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 4: would be so so sad. Wow, that was you know,

980
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 4: I look at the because it's based in reality. People

981
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 4: couldn't poke holes in it, right, because there was just

982
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 4: enough information out there that you could say this could happen. Yeah,

983
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 4: But at the same time, you're going, do you all.

984
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 6: The great makings of a perfect conspiracy theory?

985
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, and anything that is based that is based

986
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: in the.

987
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 5: Kernel of truth.

988
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. That was a fun one. That was That

989
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 4: was great and the Undertaker and Kine just coming up

990
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 4: with that story because that was ongoing as well. That

991
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: it just kept getting more and more bizarre. And characters

992
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 4: are so bizarre they let themselves to You can do

993
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: anything with this. That was good.

994
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: If you're willing. I'd love to hear an example of

995
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: the flip side a time when something didn't work where

996
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: you did, you had you were sure something was perfect,

997
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: and either the audience didn't react or the wrestlers themselves

998
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: didn't like the story and you couldn't go there.

999
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: God, we don't have enough time.

1000
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: Is that what you're doing all the time, you're pitching

1001
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: ideas and getting shot down? Or at the time, yeah.

1002
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 4: The time, I mean we had and sometimes life just

1003
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 4: it just happens. We did a scenario one time where

1004
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 4: we had a bunch of guys go down dressed all

1005
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 4: in black and be undertaken with the club and carry

1006
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 4: them out over their heads. The day before it was

1007
00:54:53,719 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: to air, guys, they bombed the subway in London and

1008
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 4: people were dressed exactly like now. We had pre peaked

1009
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: ours the week before, so we knew nothing. You know,

1010
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: obviously couldn't tell the future.

1011
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 7: It's tape upn already had the tape and we're like,

1012
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 7: you can't air this, you cannot air this, and.

1013
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 4: And that was that was not good. But a lot

1014
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 4: of oh yeah, well Friar Ferguson. We had a guy

1015
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 4: dressed up as like a monk, as a friar, and yeah,

1016
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: the audience will tell you quickly right away.

1017
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: So I remember hearing something about wasn't there a guy

1018
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: that was originally going to be pushed just called puke

1019
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: who could make himself throw up kind of like on command.

1020
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 4: Darren Rosov, great guy. He played for the Denver Broncos

1021
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 4: and was famous for he was a nose tackle and

1022
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 4: his nerves would get to him and he lined up

1023
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: on the ball and puked over the ball for the snap.

1024
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: That's disgusting. Yeah, and he came he was trained to

1025
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 4: be a wrestler, and that was his claim to fame,

1026
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 4: that he could puke on command.

1027
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: Oh god.

1028
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: So in a documentary interview, Vince tried to get him

1029
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,479
Speaker 4: too puke and he couldn't do it. And I tried

1030
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: to get him to the same thing. I tried to

1031
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 4: get him to do it one time. Did you guys

1032
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: have a football, Yeah, that's what you need. But he

1033
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 4: I gotta have some water, I got to do this

1034
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. But yes, we sure did. The

1035
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 4: problem was getting him to do.

1036
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 5: It on que couldn't do it.

1037
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah it happened. That's funny.

1038
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 6: Well, Bruce, we know how unbelievably busy you are, and

1039
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 6: we are so appreciative that you joined us, and I

1040
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 6: just would like to remind everybody Bruce's podcast is something

1041
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 6: to wrestle with Bruce Pritchard, tons of great behind the

1042
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 6: scenes wrestling stories from one of the most creative minds

1043
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 6: molding it. So thank you so much for being a

1044
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 6: part of the Boy Meets World journey and we're just

1045
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 6: so happy you made the time to stop by.

1046
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. I know less or hard

1047
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 4: whoever had just continually Uh that was.

1048
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 6: My husband, my husband Jensen, who who worked me two

1049
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 6: thousand and five.

1050
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 4: I know, and I felt so bad because like during

1051
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 4: the time it's going into WrestleMania at a point where

1052
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 4: I'm looking through things and it's like, don't need answer now, next, next, next, next,

1053
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 4: and I don't. I don't always get back and then.

1054
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 4: But I knew it was coming this week. I am

1055
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 4: extremely guys, really thankful, and I appreciate you asking me

1056
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 4: because it to this day, it's one of those shows

1057
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 4: that if it's on I just stop and watch it

1058
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 4: because again it gives me good mindless entertainment that I

1059
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: can laugh and I go, hey, I know them. So

1060
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 4: it was a lot of fun and I really appreciate

1061
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 4: the ask and I wish you guys the absolute best

1062
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 4: and Marks Tall.

1063
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: It is Marks fault and anytime, it would just anytime

1064
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: you'd like to bring Danielle down and put her through

1065
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: a table rider, and I are with that, and we

1066
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: will be there front and center.

1067
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 4: Jensen, get the table.

1068
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 10: Thank you man. Those are some stories.

1069
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: That's a guy where you go to dinner or something

1070
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: and you just keep your mouth shut and he'll keep

1071
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: you entertained all night long with story.

1072
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: His entire life has been entertainment, such good entertainment, so fascinating. God,

1073
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 2: do you guys know what your wrestling characters would be.

1074
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 6: I'd have to be We've already decided that I would

1075
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 6: be a heel. I think i'd be a manager. I'd

1076
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 6: be a heel manager, so I'd manage a wrestler and

1077
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 6: I'd just be a terrible person.

1078
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 3: I think I'd a guy.

1079
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: You'd have to you'd have to be super Phil Freedol. Yeah,

1080
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: it'd be like the like the superhero, maybe a little

1081
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: past his prime.

1082
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it will be like, yeah, come on, guys,

1083
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: we don't need to We don't need to wrestle yourself.

1084
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: Do we have to leave home to wrestle I assume.

1085
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: You writer would just be called the poet. Oh yeah,

1086
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 3: that's your character.

1087
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: I'd just be this emo, hipster, pretentious. I would just

1088
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: get into the ring and cry on people. I just

1089
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: cry on small match bourbon. Yes, emotional deflection, don't you understand.

1090
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: And I'd bring up my own like coffee roasting. I'd

1091
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: like make my own like I'd be a barista, yeah, mixologist.

1092
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 4: How do we not.

1093
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Speaker 3: Start this right away, this wrestling program.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, his finishing move is the smelt.

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Speaker 2: I love it or no, I just I just make

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Speaker 2: you us out reading poetry.

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Speaker 5: Bor us to death.

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Speaker 2: And now William Wordsworth, let's go.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Another great name for you would be the wordsmith. That's

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Speaker 1: another word, great wrestling name, the word smith.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the emo wordsmith.

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode

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Speaker 6: of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us

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Speaker 2: We love you all. Pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is

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Speaker 2: an iHeart podcast producer hosted by Danielle Fischel Wilfridell and

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Speaker 2: writer Strong Executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, Executive

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Speaker 2: in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Tarasubasch, producer,

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