Speaker 1: While didn't the factory.
Speaker 2: That's when it came I want to play, I want
Speaker 2: to play, and we got this three month gig. So
Speaker 2: I decided I'm leaving the factory, and all of my
Speaker 2: family came to all house to tell me it's all right.
Speaker 1: It's a hobby Stone.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Episode four ninety five. Ringo star Ringo, Star
Speaker 3: of the Beatles, Ringo, Star of the Beatles.
Speaker 4: What it feels like? Give me just saying his name?
Speaker 4: That was? That was a little weird, surreal, really cool,
Speaker 4: all those things, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it felt like a dream until he was sitting down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it didn't seem like real life because
Speaker 3: that's somebody who's been so wildly famous for so much
Speaker 3: longer than we've even been alive, which is pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: And so what was weird for me was the more
Speaker 3: that he was coming over. I think somehow word got out.
Speaker 3: Did I say outwardly that he was coming over to
Speaker 3: my house like on the show anywhere?
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I know I did in the studio, but there were
Speaker 3: executives even within our company that wanted to come to
Speaker 3: my house and meet Ringo.
Speaker 4: Did that get to you?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: I didn't hear about that, and usually I'll be pretty
Speaker 3: diplomatic and hey can't or occasionally okay, But there was
Speaker 3: no way I was gonna have anybody extra there for Ringo,
Speaker 3: just out of respect, because he's so famous that I'm
Speaker 3: sure that happens all the time, and so I just
Speaker 3: had to hit him with straight no period in texts.
Speaker 3: And then later I went back and was like, hey, sorry,
Speaker 3: I wasn't able to get to the text. We just
Speaker 3: couldn't have a lot of people in.
Speaker 4: But I thought I was.
Speaker 3: Courageous to text two hours out from Ringo. Also, I
Speaker 3: don't even really know these people that well, and they're like,
Speaker 3: can I come to your house and meet Ringo?
Speaker 4: Like both of those things felt a little weird.
Speaker 5: That's a wild ass.
Speaker 4: It's a wild ass. Yeah, it's a wild ask.
Speaker 7: And he came in with like security too, so you
Speaker 7: wouldn't want extra people around him.
Speaker 3: So I never saw security, and so you can tell
Speaker 3: me what happened. So they pull up to the house
Speaker 3: and like a was it a big black suv that.
Speaker 7: TV like fully tanted windows, and the first person who
Speaker 7: gets out is like this huge bodyguard and like a
Speaker 7: Navy seal hat.
Speaker 5: He looked hardcore.
Speaker 3: Now, he didn't follow Ringo down to the studio because
Speaker 3: I never saw that guy, no.
Speaker 7: Which I was surprised. I thought maybe he would escort
Speaker 7: him the entire way. But as soon as he saw
Speaker 7: that he was in the house heading back that way,
Speaker 7: he was good.
Speaker 4: Are you sure that wasn't just a really buff uber driver.
Speaker 1: No, he was not.
Speaker 4: He had a driver.
Speaker 5: And then the security guy.
Speaker 3: Well, it was kind of weird too because it had
Speaker 3: just rained, snowed, iced all things that got super cold.
Speaker 3: So my property is not like a real studio where
Speaker 3: people come all the time like we have. It's a
Speaker 3: building and we have our studio built. But Ringo's eighty
Speaker 3: four yep. And so we're like, oh crap, it's icy
Speaker 3: all through these different parts. Just to get back to
Speaker 3: the studio, Like there are stairs, there's like an entrance
Speaker 3: to the back of the property. It's a path that
Speaker 3: goes downstairs, goes through a gate, all for foot traffic.
Speaker 3: But it was pretty icy in places, and so you
Speaker 3: and I are trying to negotiate how to get him
Speaker 3: back there without stepping on the ice and falling.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there were so many factors going into that. Just
Speaker 7: the weather I was like, maybe he won't even come
Speaker 7: because of this, And then the ice on the stairs,
Speaker 7: I'm like.
Speaker 5: We gotta get him in here.
Speaker 3: We were going, anybody have a blanket we can throw
Speaker 3: on the stairs. I was just imagining what if we
Speaker 3: like broke the hip of a beetle like that had
Speaker 3: been terrible. So it ends up what we did was
Speaker 3: we walked him through the house, which is fine. I
Speaker 3: didn't even think about that because for the most part,
Speaker 3: we do no shoes at my house, and so now
Speaker 3: I don't walk anybody into the house just for that
Speaker 3: reason alone.
Speaker 4: I think it was he was like, wh don't we
Speaker 4: just bring up to the house.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's just get him in there.
Speaker 4: I was like, great point.
Speaker 3: We got to make sure the dogs are up, because
Speaker 3: we don't need our My dog's jumping all over.
Speaker 4: Ringo Star.
Speaker 3: So I'm sitting down in the chair and it was
Speaker 3: just him and like two women, like a promo person,
Speaker 3: probably a pr person, and they walked right in and
Speaker 3: he sits down here like, hey, I'm Ringo or whatever
Speaker 3: the impression is. But you have told me don't try
Speaker 3: to shake his hand, which is awesome because I don't
Speaker 3: like shaking hands either.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they said, he's like you fist bump.
Speaker 4: So what was funny was I know that I love
Speaker 4: that anyway.
Speaker 3: Mostly that's how I'm attempting to touch people through fists
Speaker 3: or elbows or bow. And so he comes in a
Speaker 3: fist bump them. Read no one gave him the heads up,
Speaker 3: don't try to shake Ringo's hand. Yeah, And so he
Speaker 3: walks in and read those this big old six foot
Speaker 3: three hand at him, Hey, Ringo, and Ringo headed him
Speaker 3: with the turkey. Ringo puts the fist into the hand
Speaker 3: and so Ringo sits down. You're gonna hear the interview
Speaker 3: in just a second. And I felt like he was
Speaker 3: a lot nicer, softer, and more generous than I would
Speaker 3: have expected, because I'm sure everywhere he goes people are
Speaker 3: clamoring to meet him to get a picture. We also
Speaker 3: were a little worried, Hey, what can we not ask?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought there would be rules.
Speaker 3: Because he has this new record out which I spent
Speaker 3: time listening to, which I think it's really good because
Speaker 3: and I mean this in a way of it's a
Speaker 3: simple country record and it sounds like Ringo being Ringo,
Speaker 3: but it's probably not as simply made as it was
Speaker 3: to hear. Meaning the real brilliance of this is it
Speaker 3: feels like, oh wow, this is pretty simple record, but
Speaker 3: I'm sure there was so much that went into it.
Speaker 3: I really liked it, and I'm not just saying that
Speaker 3: because there are a lot of records I just go, hey,
Speaker 3: it's out. Because if I don't listen to it a
Speaker 3: or I listen to a couple songs, or I don't
Speaker 3: like it, it's not my thing. I just won't won't
Speaker 3: give an opinion on it. But I really liked it
Speaker 3: because it has Alison Krause on it, it has Larkin
Speaker 3: Poe on it. I'm big fans of the Larkin Poet
Speaker 3: sisters and Alison Kraus and Billy Strings. So he found
Speaker 3: kind of that Americana bluegrass feel, and I think that's
Speaker 3: from TiVo Burnett, who produced the record.
Speaker 4: But he came in, he.
Speaker 3: Sat down, and obviously you want to talk about the Beatles,
Speaker 3: but I need to give him a place to get
Speaker 3: to the Beatles, so then I can ask questions about
Speaker 3: the Beatles. But as soon as he sits down, before
Speaker 3: we even went on, he was like kids these days,
Speaker 3: they they don't.
Speaker 4: Have clubs to play in how are they supposed to
Speaker 4: get good?
Speaker 3: And so this is why we're like finishing cameras and
Speaker 3: you know, getting his people seated.
Speaker 4: And so I hear him say that, and you hear
Speaker 4: me go to it where it's hey.
Speaker 3: We mentioned that kids don't get to play in clubs
Speaker 3: and get good, and that kind of got us to
Speaker 3: Beatles stuff.
Speaker 4: But he never said, don't talk about the Beatles. No,
Speaker 4: so we definitely did.
Speaker 3: What I found crazy and he'll mention this in a second,
Speaker 3: is when he was playing two bands at once and
Speaker 3: he play for six hours and then you go play
Speaker 3: with the Beatles for six hours and play twelve hour days.
Speaker 4: That's wild.
Speaker 7: It was just wild to hear him talk about Beatles
Speaker 7: stories when we've only heard people talk about like stories
Speaker 7: of stories. But to hear from the source itself was
Speaker 7: I had a moment where it's like, Wow, this is
Speaker 7: an actual Beatle in here telling Beatles stories.
Speaker 3: Firsthand, I'm pretty jaded, not in a bad way, but
Speaker 3: because I do I do it, and we do it
Speaker 3: a lot where we talk to people that have made
Speaker 3: significant impacts on pop culture or country music or they're
Speaker 3: great artists. This was different because this is like a
Speaker 3: real life museum, like the most historical band of all time,
Speaker 3: like one of the four people, one of the two.
Speaker 7: Alive, and not only that, in your house, Yeah, my house,
Speaker 7: my house.
Speaker 4: I was walking a Beatle through your house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank god a dog didn't jump on him, because
Speaker 3: they would have because they don't know the Beatles. Stanley
Speaker 3: and Neller don't know the Beatles. Some fun facts about
Speaker 3: Ringo Star before we get to the interview. He joined
Speaker 3: the Beatles pretty late, meaning they weren't already famous. But
Speaker 3: you may have heard this before. He wasn't an original
Speaker 3: member of the Beatles. He replaced Pete Best as the
Speaker 3: drummer in nineteen sixty two, but that was before they
Speaker 3: became famous. So that's like Dave Grohl and Nirvana. Dave
Speaker 3: grohls a founding member of Nirvana and all of our
Speaker 3: minds for the most part, because when they got big,
Speaker 3: he was the drummer, like he was the drummer that
Speaker 3: did it with them, And so Ringo is that because
Speaker 3: they weren't the Beatles yet until Ringo got there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like Travis Barker Bloken eighty two.
Speaker 4: Wait, I don't, I don't, I'm not there, help me.
Speaker 4: They had a drummer before him, see I didn't even
Speaker 4: know that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, a guy named Scott before they really got famous,
Speaker 7: and then Travis joined the band and they got huge.
Speaker 3: Ringo suffered from serious health issues as a kid. He
Speaker 3: had something called parent hmmm, parrotinidis at age six. He
Speaker 3: had tuberculosis at age thirteen, which kept him in the
Speaker 3: hospital for long periods. He did sing lead on some
Speaker 3: Beatles songs, mainly the drummer, but he's sang lead on
Speaker 3: very famous songs like I Get By With the Little
Speaker 3: Help from My Friends, Oh, Yellow Submarine, Octopus Garden. We
Speaker 3: talked about him being left handed here because he when
Speaker 3: he plays guitar now he plays it right handed and
Speaker 3: I was like, but you're left handed, so we get
Speaker 3: into that conversation. But he's a left handed rumber, but
Speaker 3: really wasn't able to play left handed. He was the
Speaker 3: first Beatle to release a solo album. His nineteen seventy album,
Speaker 3: Sentimental Journey, was the first solo album by a Beatle
Speaker 3: After the band's breakup. He's acted in several films, including
Speaker 3: Caveman and That'll Be The Day. Have you seen either
Speaker 3: one of those? As movie Mike no Is that before
Speaker 3: your Time, I think so. He's even narrated early episodes
Speaker 3: of Thomas and Friends.
Speaker 7: That's where I knew him from first. The Train that
Speaker 7: was my favorite show as a kid, and I remember
Speaker 7: him as the conductor and doing the narration.
Speaker 3: He's been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of
Speaker 3: Fame twice, once as a member of the Beatles and
Speaker 3: then as a solo artist the Beatles in eighty eight,
Speaker 3: a solo artist in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4: He says peace and love.
Speaker 3: Peace and love a lot the picture we took because
Speaker 3: I don't only touch people in pictures anymore. Just generally speaking,
Speaker 3: you'll see that, not just with the Ringo, with anybody.
Speaker 3: It's gotten kind of weird too, where like even Dirk
Speaker 3: So I'm friends with, it's like or Matt Carney was
Speaker 3: up here, they're like, why you're not touching me? And
Speaker 3: they're like, put their arm over my shoulder. I'm just
Speaker 3: getting in the habit and not touching people for the
Speaker 3: one or two people that don't want to be touched.
Speaker 3: But what Ringo does is he doesn't like to be
Speaker 3: touched obviously. Same and he holds a peace sign up
Speaker 3: and so he's holding it up in the picture. So
Speaker 3: I do a peace sign. It looks at me and goes, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the ticket, which is pretty funny. Coach is how
Speaker 3: nice he was. I'm telling you, I was so surprised.
Speaker 3: He was knighted by the Queen in twenty eighteen, officially
Speaker 3: making him Sir Richard Starkly. He inspired a drumming style.
Speaker 3: It's cool on TikTok now to see a lot of
Speaker 3: the young drummers kind of give Ringo credit for a
Speaker 3: bit of a like a avant garde type style within
Speaker 3: boundaries and they're like, check this fill out. Ringo doesn't
Speaker 3: get the credit. It's it became like a trending thing
Speaker 3: on TikTok in the last.
Speaker 7: Year and they're like, this is what he could have played,
Speaker 7: but this is what he decided to play. It was
Speaker 7: like so different, Like oh, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 3: As a drummer, he has a unique grip. Not a drummer,
Speaker 3: not really familiar with a matched grip or a traditional
Speaker 3: jazz grip, but he did. He'd write some songs. He
Speaker 3: was close with Keith Moon and John Bonham. Keith Moon
Speaker 3: from The Who, John Bonham of led Zeppelin. Those were drummers,
Speaker 3: his son to drummer all right. He nearly left the
Speaker 3: Beatles during the recording of the White album. Ringo briefly
Speaker 3: quit the band due attention, but was convinced to return.
Speaker 3: His bandmates even decorated his drum kit with flowers and
Speaker 3: to welcome on back. I have two more. He's a
Speaker 3: painter and his drums were stolen. His first Ludwig drum kit,
Speaker 3: which became iconic, was stolen in nineteen sixty. It surfaced
Speaker 3: decades later and was auctioned offer over two million dollars.
Speaker 3: The buyer Paul McCartney.
Speaker 4: We talked to t.
Speaker 3: Bone Burnett, who will be in a later episode, and
Speaker 3: t Bone said that when he was producing this record,
Speaker 3: he would go to Ringo's house. Ringo has the same
Speaker 3: symbols that he had when he played with the Beatles,
Speaker 3: and that he's never cleaned them once, so that dust
Speaker 3: and that dirt is from fifty sixty years of just music,
Speaker 3: including the Beatles, which is pretty crazy. T Bone Burnett episode,
Speaker 3: you guys a gonna like two because not only did
Speaker 3: he produce his Ringo album, but he did walk the
Speaker 3: line h Joaquin Phoenix. We talked about Johnny Cash. He
Speaker 3: did Old Brother, We're out there, Old Brother, We're out Now.
Speaker 3: I did that music won tons of Grammies for that.
Speaker 3: He produced the Counting Crows record August and everything after
Speaker 3: he did the Wallflowers. He brought up the Wallflowers and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I got an opening. I'm going in for
Speaker 3: the Counting Crows.
Speaker 7: You're just casually bringing up these huge and yeah, you're like,
Speaker 7: wait a minute.
Speaker 3: And then we get back to Ringo because he was
Speaker 3: a massive Beatles fan, so to him that was super cool.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, T Bone Burnette produced Ringo Star record,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna get to Ringo now, and we're gonna
Speaker 3: come back and talk about some Beatles stuff after the
Speaker 3: interview here because the interview is like thirty five minutes
Speaker 3: or so. The album is called Look Up. It's Ringo
Speaker 3: Star produced by T Bone Burnett. We talked about some
Speaker 3: of the artists that are on with him.
Speaker 4: I really like it.
Speaker 3: I think if you're a fan of country music, I
Speaker 3: would say a fan of like seventies and eighties straightforward
Speaker 3: country music, you will like this. I think that's it.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else need to say?
Speaker 5: I think that's it. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3: We'll come back after. But here is Ringo star Ringo.
Speaker 3: Good to see you, Nice to meet you. Pretty pretty
Speaker 3: exciting here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanksful.
Speaker 4: So were you?
Speaker 3: You were just over at the Ryman. One of my
Speaker 3: friends just texted me and said he saw you over there.
Speaker 2: I was over there hanging out with all those guys
Speaker 2: and some girls.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The gist of it I thought was that they're all
Speaker 2: like newcomers coming up and they got a chance to
Speaker 2: be on stage and the place was full, and that's great.
Speaker 1: So it's a great move. Well done radio.
Speaker 4: You know, I'll take the credit myself.
Speaker 1: Oh you did it, all of it.
Speaker 3: If that works, I'll take all the credit. So how
Speaker 3: long have you been in Nashville on this distin since Tuesday?
Speaker 4: And what do you do while you're here?
Speaker 2: Well, we don't do much because it's snow point, you know,
Speaker 2: walking around it's so damn cold.
Speaker 4: Snow. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, snow.
Speaker 1: Snowed last time I was here. This is.
Speaker 2: Like if I arrived, snows it coming. But you know,
Speaker 2: we're rehearsing and we're doing promos and we're doing radio chats.
Speaker 3: That's fun that you still rehearse because I would think
Speaker 3: why would you need to rehearse? I know you have
Speaker 3: all the new songs, but I just think you probably
Speaker 3: have it all figured out, Like is it how long
Speaker 3: have you had the band with you?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't have the band with.
Speaker 2: They're touring all from local guys.
Speaker 3: I didn't, So that makes sense as to why you'd rehearse. Then,
Speaker 3: So are you rehearsing to play like the opry or
Speaker 3: because I know you're doing all the dates.
Speaker 1: We're doing the Opry.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here this time, and we're going to
Speaker 2: do one from the album and another song, so give
Speaker 2: it all the way. I did a track naturally book Owens,
Speaker 2: and you know, the story is so great. I love
Speaker 2: it because you know he did it. I found it
Speaker 2: in the sixties on the record and I just loved it.
Speaker 2: So I did it with the Beatles, and then in
Speaker 2: the seventies we did it together, you know, as far
Speaker 2: out that's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I am left handed, but I played guitar left handed,
Speaker 3: which has been very very difficult for me because I
Speaker 3: can't play anybody else's guitar. Like in this town, everybody plays,
Speaker 3: and so if I want to play, I can never
Speaker 3: play anybody's instrument.
Speaker 4: You're left handed. Did you decide to play right handed
Speaker 4: because of that?
Speaker 2: Or just the chance to sit behind a don't kiss?
Speaker 2: In Liverpool? I sat behind the right handed kits and
Speaker 2: thought this is it. I didn't know any better.
Speaker 4: See, you had to play right handed. It was the
Speaker 4: only way that you could learn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I just did it naturally. Really, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just like, oh, okay, so it's this. If I
Speaker 2: played reggae, I have to turn the whole kiss around.
Speaker 3: What about if you play guitar? What do you play
Speaker 3: right handed?
Speaker 4: Left handed?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Right? You do play every play golf right?
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 4: So are you even left handed?
Speaker 1: Because well, I'm left handed.
Speaker 2: If I write my name, you know, and there's like
Speaker 2: it's like a mad left handed guy because it's some
Speaker 2: of it's right and some of it's left. And uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I played dolls with my left I feel.
Speaker 3: Like you're just deciding what you want to do with
Speaker 3: what hand. That's the great grandad.
Speaker 2: My well in a way, but my grandmother moved me
Speaker 2: from being left handed because I was righting as a kid,
Speaker 2: to right handed because she thought that would be better
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: My grandmother raised me for a lot of my life
Speaker 3: adopted me. You mentioned your grandmother. Did she have a
Speaker 3: big part in your raising?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was brought up because my dad left when
Speaker 2: I was three and my mom and my grandma, my
Speaker 2: granddad wrote you, and so they had a big part
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, my my grandmother.
Speaker 3: My my dad left when I was five, and so
Speaker 3: my grandmother jumped in and adopted me, and thank god,
Speaker 3: what what uh.
Speaker 1: Well, we didn't go that fall. They just loved me.
Speaker 3: Well, she had to adopt me because my mom left too.
Speaker 3: So it was like I needed the last name and
Speaker 3: had to have somebody I understand now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom loved me every minutes of my life.
Speaker 3: I was listening to the record over the past a
Speaker 3: few days or so, I saw you on the front
Speaker 3: of a magazine here in town. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 3: the cover. Yeah, and I was like, man, that's really cool.
Speaker 3: That's when I started.
Speaker 1: It's on the cover of Nashville.
Speaker 6: That's what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I saw. There was the cover of
Speaker 4: the big.
Speaker 3: National magazine, and so I was going through and listening
Speaker 3: to the music. But what I was drawn to are
Speaker 3: some of the artists that you brought along with you,
Speaker 3: like Molly Tutle Loves and Billy Strings, Yeah, Philly who's
Speaker 3: out of his mind?
Speaker 1: And good Rodneck Ronell.
Speaker 4: So why out of the blue.
Speaker 3: Like Lark and Poe, I've done like a songwriter. Think
Speaker 3: they're amazing. So I want to ask you, like, why
Speaker 3: Lark and Poe. Let's start there.
Speaker 2: Well, Larkin Poe is Actually I asked tvaon to get
Speaker 2: them on my record because I saw them they did
Speaker 2: a music care thing for Tom Petty and I think
Speaker 2: TVAU must have put the band together and they were
Speaker 2: playing and this is at least five years ago, and
Speaker 2: I love them then it was it just worked really well.
Speaker 2: And so I said, well, you know, whatever we're putting together,
Speaker 2: it'd be great if you could put the girls together.
Speaker 1: And he did and so they's so dynamic. Yeah, great, And.
Speaker 2: Well you know the lineup we've got for you know,
Speaker 2: the CBS TV show and next month it's coming out.
Speaker 1: It blows me away. It's just full of really incredible people.
Speaker 3: Alison Krass loved here. Yeah, and t Bone and her
Speaker 3: history working together. Okay, how did you enjoy Alison Alison
Speaker 3: Krass on the record?
Speaker 2: Well, who could ask for anything better than it was?
Speaker 2: Even greater because that's the one I wrote, you know, thankful.
Speaker 1: I wrote that with.
Speaker 2: The engineers a producer as well, Bruce Sugar, and we
Speaker 2: put that on the rest of the tabone and T Bones
Speaker 2: tea Bone's friends.
Speaker 4: What's your writing process now? Will you write?
Speaker 2: Give me a one line and we can hang out,
Speaker 2: you know, and write a song. That's how I did
Speaker 2: it for all my records.
Speaker 3: So if someone's like, here's a concept and we'll just
Speaker 3: hang out and work.
Speaker 2: We were to dinner Jim Keltner, Joe Walsh and I
Speaker 2: and the girls, and for some reason I had a
Speaker 2: I said, well, you've gotter get up to get down,
Speaker 2: and Joe watsh and I wrote a song cale You've
Speaker 2: got to get.
Speaker 1: Up to get down.
Speaker 2: That's fine, you know, you gotta get out the seat,
Speaker 2: you gotta do something to get down.
Speaker 4: How much how much time it took you around?
Speaker 3: I saw him walking, Oh yeah, yeah, this is uh,
Speaker 3: this is the coolest my house has ever been, like
Speaker 3: ever in the history of my house being alive.
Speaker 1: Which is the incredible T Bone.
Speaker 3: How long from when you have an idea until you
Speaker 3: need to record it before you possibly move on?
Speaker 4: All the day?
Speaker 2: I don't have any of those times. No, I'm blessed
Speaker 2: like that. I mean, Richard Mark's played here last night,
Speaker 2: and he's a good friend. He was in the Old
Speaker 2: Stars and he'd come over and write and we came
Speaker 2: to the conclusion that if it took more than twenty
Speaker 2: five minutes to write the song, we were failures.
Speaker 4: Do you still enjoy playing?
Speaker 1: I love playing?
Speaker 4: Is that still?
Speaker 1: I love playing? I love I'm in the band.
Speaker 2: I'm in the band, you know, and like with the
Speaker 2: Old Stars, Yeah, it's ringling the Old Stars, but I
Speaker 2: play everybody else's song, you know, I'm playing drums for them,
Speaker 2: and and then I do half of the show in
Speaker 2: the front, so it's a movement, you know, at the
Speaker 2: kid for them, I'm down the front for most of mine.
Speaker 3: Walk me through this album as far as one, why
Speaker 3: do it this style? Because you can do many styles?
Speaker 3: And then how how did you and t Bone get together?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: T Bone and I have met many times, and I've
Speaker 2: told this story a thousand times over the last year,
Speaker 2: that he would, you know, I'd have a lot of
Speaker 2: parties in the seventies and eighties, and most nights he
Speaker 2: was there, and I didn't invite him once he come
Speaker 2: with one of the other musicians or whatever. I don't
Speaker 2: know he got there, but he didn't. He just stand around,
Speaker 2: you know, surveying. And but anyway, as we moved on
Speaker 2: to two years ago, eighteen months ago, I went to Olivia.
Speaker 2: Harris and George's wife had a reading of a book,
Speaker 2: the Poems for George, at the Sunset Marquee in La.
Speaker 2: I was invited. Fifty other people were there and T
Speaker 2: Bom was one of them. It's so great to tell
Speaker 2: the story and you're in the room and we said, Hi, hello,
Speaker 2: what's happening. You know, I was doing EPs through the pandemic.
Speaker 2: I only made EPs four tracks, and I said, I,
Speaker 2: by the way, you know, if you've got a track
Speaker 2: you feel it'll be good for me, why don't you
Speaker 2: send me the files? Anyway, it was like crazy, because
Speaker 2: you know, all the piece are sort of pop rock.
Speaker 2: You sent me this beautiful, beautiful country song and I thought, well,
Speaker 2: you know, life is good now. I thought, oh, I'll
Speaker 2: do a country EP. That was the instigator, and I
Speaker 2: got some other guys to write two songs.
Speaker 1: I wrote a song and we had that.
Speaker 2: Song, and then T Bong came into La and we
Speaker 2: were chatting about this, that and the other, and you
Speaker 2: know about songs, and and I said, well, have you
Speaker 2: got any songs? And he actually went into his pocket,
Speaker 2: and I love to do the action. I go to
Speaker 2: my top pocket and he pulled out the files of
Speaker 2: nine songs.
Speaker 1: And he said, I mean a song interviewer.
Speaker 2: He said nine, and we did three or four that
Speaker 2: moment I just got because I had the kit in
Speaker 2: the next room. I have a small studio, and I
Speaker 2: just you know, I'd like to play and play. I
Speaker 2: only want to play the track twice.
Speaker 1: It's more interesting.
Speaker 2: I think I'm not getting it right all the time,
Speaker 2: but getting it emotional, well, I think it should be.
Speaker 3: Do you think a lot of that is from when
Speaker 3: you recorded, you know, thirty years ago or more, when
Speaker 3: you didn't have nobody did because of technology, didn't have
Speaker 3: the ability to track things. And you're most comfortable in
Speaker 3: that scenario and you had really wonderful things that you
Speaker 3: had created that came out that way.
Speaker 4: So now that's kind of your style.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: So yeah.
Speaker 2: I think you know, as long as you play, you'll
Speaker 2: find you where you're comfortable. And I was always comfortable
Speaker 2: playing with the singer. I've always believed they don't need
Speaker 2: me boot banging about. Well, you know, I always use
Speaker 2: the song yesterday, but I never felt they needed that.
Speaker 1: And that's just been the way I played from the start.
Speaker 2: I just I'm holding you down, I'm keeping you together,
Speaker 2: and you know, bring it up a bit or take
Speaker 2: it down a bit, but it's more of an emotion.
Speaker 2: And I can never do the same field twice. I
Speaker 2: can't play this track and put a fell in and
Speaker 2: a lot of people, oh, do that, Phil, you know,
Speaker 2: let's double it, especially the Beatle, especially John, and I
Speaker 2: can't do it because it's where I come off.
Speaker 1: Is is you know it's an emotional thing.
Speaker 4: Instinctual maybe yeah, well.
Speaker 2: And instinctual is a good witch, sure, And so you
Speaker 2: know I don't I won't be there next time we
Speaker 2: play it. I mean i'll get the track. I know
Speaker 2: where they you know, just rock on through. But the
Speaker 2: film can come there that And we actually have a
Speaker 2: couple of songs on this record where I do a
Speaker 2: piece change for the chorus and and then I'm playing
Speaker 2: away and then the next choor is I don't come
Speaker 2: in right away because I'm not feeling it this time.
Speaker 2: Oh halfway through I'll bring it, you know that whatever
Speaker 2: you know, imagine the first time and get the second half.
Speaker 2: So and t Bone is very good though, it's very
Speaker 2: cool like that.
Speaker 3: We were talking a little bit before you came in,
Speaker 3: just briefly, like how young artists are supposed to get
Speaker 3: good Now there really aren't a lot of clubs, not
Speaker 3: like they're probably used to because I'm assuming when you
Speaker 3: guys were coming up, there.
Speaker 4: Were a lot of club You could play a lot
Speaker 4: of club a lot of times.
Speaker 2: I was telling that to the kids in the rhymen
Speaker 2: waiting to go on and do it, you know, whatever they're.
Speaker 1: Going to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Dave Steward and I one time, and this
Speaker 2: was a long time ago, two thousand and eight, we
Speaker 2: would decided we were going to do like go on
Speaker 2: tour purposely to then go around the country by clubs,
Speaker 2: just so you know, the new band would have somewhere
Speaker 2: to go. I'm disgusted with a big band. If you
Speaker 2: open for them, you have to pay them.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, you know, I think, where where's the give
Speaker 1: back here? You know?
Speaker 2: So one time to like drive them all crazy with
Speaker 2: the old stars, I had a local band and every
Speaker 2: gig we played the local band got up and played
Speaker 2: with one of them that they'd picked.
Speaker 8: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Speaker 8: Bobby Cast.
Speaker 4: Did you guys ever open for anyone early on?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we opened for Roy Orbison were opened for
Speaker 2: a lot of people. And in fact, the first tour
Speaker 2: we did with I can't even think of a name
Speaker 2: now because you've asked me about it. She was like
Speaker 2: a big hit. She was like fourteen fifteen in England.
Speaker 2: This is all in England, and we had three numbers
Speaker 2: at the beginning. The curtains opened, we did three numbers
Speaker 2: and that's how we to us.
Speaker 1: Was a step up from clubs to theaters.
Speaker 2: And then we kept doing that and we'd have tweeny
Speaker 2: low pairs and Roy was great. Roy was the hardest
Speaker 2: actor we ever had to follow. Why is that because
Speaker 2: he's great. He would just stand there with those shades
Speaker 2: on and not a lot of movement, but all coming out,
Speaker 2: and so we would be behind the curtain. We're next
Speaker 2: on you Don't, Don't, Don't don't. We beat playing on
Speaker 2: the guitar, little hints of our songs while he was on.
Speaker 1: But then we we closed the first half.
Speaker 2: We'd moved up and then we closed the show and
Speaker 2: we had a few problems with some American acts who
Speaker 2: came over, and you know, we were just rising in
Speaker 2: England really fast, and you know, they'd come in expecting
Speaker 2: to be top of the bill, and Tommy Rowe was
Speaker 2: great because.
Speaker 1: He'd realized right away.
Speaker 2: But we had another act that came over, who I'm
Speaker 2: American on top of the bill and said, okay, So
Speaker 2: we played to the halfway through, we played the break
Speaker 2: and uh, and we left and everybody else left left.
Speaker 1: He was on his own.
Speaker 3: When was music introduced to you as a kid.
Speaker 4: As far as the big.
Speaker 1: News, my stepdad loved.
Speaker 2: He had his little room with a little record player,
Speaker 2: but he was a big band and.
Speaker 1: You know, Billy Daniels.
Speaker 2: And a lot of old people, and he would play that.
Speaker 2: I think because of that, this influence of him playing
Speaker 2: all this music the big bands, even if it's straight rock,
Speaker 2: I sort of shuffled it.
Speaker 1: I swing it a bit.
Speaker 2: And I think that all came because you know, even
Speaker 2: when Little Richard came up rock and roll days, everything
Speaker 2: was swing like big band and so I you know,
Speaker 2: I've always loved him for I loved him anyway, but
Speaker 2: the music was great. And the last thing he said,
Speaker 2: I'd be playing my stuff and well have you heard this?
Speaker 2: And it was like like one of my biggest memory
Speaker 2: and he says, well have you heard this?
Speaker 1: And it was Sarah Bonn.
Speaker 2: You know, that's pretty far out for you my dad's
Speaker 2: stepdad to play and give you a hint about people
Speaker 2: out there. But the other good side of the story,
Speaker 2: my son Zach was like eight and he came running
Speaker 2: down from school and he's got a record under his own.
Speaker 1: He said, oh God, we gotta play this. So I
Speaker 1: gotta play this to you. I'd say, well, who is it? Son?
Speaker 1: He said, Rachels.
Speaker 2: So I followed my stepdad's attitude with my own kids.
Speaker 1: Oh well, let's play it and see what it's like.
Speaker 4: You know, my grandma.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of Johnny Cash, was a lot
Speaker 3: of modern sounds of country music from Ray Charles, and
Speaker 3: that was what I was kind of introduced to his music.
Speaker 3: And then I kind of found my own music, right,
Speaker 3: and so that was like your stepdad and that music, like,
Speaker 3: that's what I remember first. But then when I found
Speaker 3: my own music, it was a bit different. What was
Speaker 3: your own music first?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I like the blues and I love
Speaker 2: country and they were the first two and then pop
Speaker 2: records of the time. And the Lightning Hopkins the blues player.
Speaker 1: Out of all of the blues players. I just loved him.
Speaker 2: I looked it because he didn't really finish the lines
Speaker 2: of it, I'm going down to He didn't bother singing,
Speaker 2: but he just got to me. He was like, so,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a well known story now, but my friend,
Speaker 2: one of my friends in Liverpool and I decided we
Speaker 2: wanted to go to Houston, Texas to be where Lightning lived.
Speaker 2: And we went down to the embassy and we asked
Speaker 2: for the American embassy in Liverpool and we asked for
Speaker 2: the papers that we could billion to, you know, emigrate
Speaker 2: to Houston, Texas, and they gave us these papers. But
Speaker 2: we both worked in the factory, and they gave us
Speaker 2: a list of factories we could apply to to get
Speaker 2: a job. And uh so we filled those forms in
Speaker 2: and then we took him back like we're ready, and
Speaker 2: they gave us a lot more forms and we're teenagers.
Speaker 1: We ripped them. The Bogger's up.
Speaker 4: Did you ever go ever? Even later?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: No, I played that, Yeah, but you never went to
Speaker 4: the house like, well.
Speaker 1: No, no, I never did that. You know, things have changed.
Speaker 3: I feel like when this record, I feel like it's
Speaker 3: so naturally you, and I think that speaks to both
Speaker 3: t bone.
Speaker 2: You know, it's absolutely speaks to t bone. But but
Speaker 2: he put me together in a great space.
Speaker 3: So and I think my point is it didn't feel
Speaker 3: like you were doing anything unnatural at all.
Speaker 2: Well that's what he figured out. He pointed that out
Speaker 2: to me, and I love. They say, well, you know
Speaker 2: what about the song? I said, every song was in
Speaker 2: my key. You know, sometimes people send you songs and
Speaker 2: the key of f demented, and they say, why haven't
Speaker 2: they never heard me?
Speaker 1: But he and since we got to.
Speaker 2: Know each other a bit better and we actually spoke
Speaker 2: to each other, he always felt he thought about me
Speaker 2: many times, but he felt and when I listened back
Speaker 2: to like on the Beatle tracks, out did the Carl
Speaker 2: Perkins record.
Speaker 1: From there it started.
Speaker 2: Mine always had sort of a country ish feel, and
Speaker 2: and then the ones I wrote it. The first songs
Speaker 2: I wrote were sort of country songs, and so he
Speaker 2: put all that together, and then he put the tracks together.
Speaker 2: He wrote the songs. As I said, he had nine
Speaker 2: and for everybody on them. And I did the drums
Speaker 2: in LA in my little studio because the sound is
Speaker 2: so great there out of the blue.
Speaker 1: We didn't do anything to it. It just was a bedroom.
Speaker 2: But now we just put the drums in and for
Speaker 2: some reason, the drums sound great there and uh and
Speaker 2: the vocals and I'd send them back to him or
Speaker 2: then he'd come into LA and that's how that's how
Speaker 2: we did it. And yeah, I love to listen to it,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm really thankful to t Bone for what
Speaker 2: he did.
Speaker 4: I love as far as the sounds of the record.
Speaker 4: I love the.
Speaker 1: Keys, the keys in my key.
Speaker 4: I love the whistle.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's just.
Speaker 3: The sound of the record sounds so organically you while
Speaker 3: still sounding like a country record, but not like you're
Speaker 3: trying to do a country record.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 4: It's the perfect balance.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm the whistler.
Speaker 4: No, I didn't know that. Are you a good whistler?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm on the record.
Speaker 3: Well, but you got to put yourself on the record though.
Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds great, but can are you a
Speaker 3: good whistler?
Speaker 4: In general?
Speaker 1: I was?
Speaker 2: And then I had some dental work and the mouths moves.
Speaker 1: I've got to train my that's pretty good though, that's
Speaker 1: still good. No, but no, that's no, that's me the record.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I can happy radio.
Speaker 2: See that's it's still a plus.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but for me it was a It was
Speaker 1: just a bigger than an a.
Speaker 2: My whistling that's on the record because I could get
Speaker 2: a little deeper. But as I said, I had dental
Speaker 2: work done and the so that the lawers changed. It's mad,
Speaker 2: but that's how it is.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you one more question about your
Speaker 3: grandparents because that resonates with me so much.
Speaker 4: Did they get to see your success.
Speaker 1: No, I was in the band then, and sort of
Speaker 1: I was in.
Speaker 2: And we were playing in Germany. I was with Rory
Speaker 2: by then Rory's some of the Hurricanes.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: I was there when my granddad went, and I was
Speaker 2: doing the gig in Germany when my grandma went, so
Speaker 2: I couldn't come home because everyone would had to play.
Speaker 2: But no, they didn't see it like unfolding. I mean,
Speaker 2: they knew I played, but they never came to a
Speaker 2: gig and we went big time.
Speaker 1: We were local bands.
Speaker 3: What was your in your mind, your ceiling when you
Speaker 3: were starting out and you're playing clubs, You're traveling around,
Speaker 3: like how big did you think?
Speaker 4: How party did you think you could go?
Speaker 1: In music? I didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't remember, like thinking of one of my mom's
Speaker 2: best friends, Annie Maguire, she would say, you know, I'd
Speaker 2: be hitting them in the house. I can see you
Speaker 2: on the London Palladium one day, son, and she gave spirits,
Speaker 2: So a lot of people in Liverpool gave your spirit.
Speaker 2: Anyway I played, I only could take the snare because
Speaker 2: we were a skiffle group. And Eddie Clayton, the guy
Speaker 2: next door, and he was in the factory. I was
Speaker 2: in the factory and Roy the you know, it.
Speaker 1: Was just a.
Speaker 2: Wooden box with a pole and that was the base.
Speaker 2: And I had a sur and that's how we started.
Speaker 2: And we had no sense of time. And I remember
Speaker 2: that once we played some sort of dance and.
Speaker 1: Oh, Maggie, Maggie May. They are taking her the wagon,
Speaker 1: each other out and the dancing they're dancing. Can you
Speaker 1: sew it down?
Speaker 2: So I'm amazed because I have really great time, you
Speaker 2: know time, and I'm good at that. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just God given gift that I can keep time.
Speaker 4: What was your job in the factory.
Speaker 2: My job was to be an apprentice engineer. At first
Speaker 2: I worked on the railways as a delivery kid boy.
Speaker 2: I was sixteen, and then I was on the coastal boats,
Speaker 2: like party boats, where like four or five hundred people
Speaker 2: would go from Liverpool to Wales and all they did
Speaker 2: was drink all the way and drink all the way back.
Speaker 2: And and I lasted five weeks on the railway, five
Speaker 2: weeks on the boats, and then my mom, you know,
Speaker 2: I've been fired, and by Monday she'd me in a
Speaker 2: new job and she got me this job in the factory.
Speaker 2: But while in that factory, that's when it came I
Speaker 2: want to play. I want to play. And then I
Speaker 2: joined this other group, Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, and
Speaker 2: we got this three month gig in a holiday camp
Speaker 2: in England. So I decided I'm leaving the factory. I
Speaker 2: was just twenty ish, and all of my family came
Speaker 2: to our house to tell me it's all right as
Speaker 2: a hobby soon. But they wanted me to keep that job,
Speaker 2: you know, and I said, no, no, I'm going, And
Speaker 2: you know that's why I changed my name. Also, we
Speaker 2: went to this gig three months. We were going to
Speaker 2: be there in the Rock and Calypso ballroom.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: I changed my name fully ter Ringo then because in Liverpool,
Speaker 2: if you do something, you know, if you're limping, that
Speaker 2: you'd probably be called Limpi. But I started wearing rings
Speaker 2: that sort of a take on my mom. She loved
Speaker 2: flashy stuff. And so some people were starting to say,
Speaker 2: hey rings, what's going on? You know, like gang members,
Speaker 2: we would be hey rings and uh. And we got
Speaker 2: to Buttland's holiday camp and we all changed our name
Speaker 2: of the guitarist called himself Tyle Brian and Johnny guitar
Speaker 2: was great and the.
Speaker 4: Name was Johnny Guitar. His name I assume he played guitar.
Speaker 1: Called him Johnny Guitar really because he changed his name
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: Really his name was Johnny, but it's you know, it
Speaker 2: was another name, family name.
Speaker 1: And uh. I put like ringo Stocky.
Speaker 2: I thought that Stocky doesn't look you know, didn't look right,
Speaker 2: so I put Ringo star.
Speaker 4: Did you two rs the first time?
Speaker 1: You have two hours to make it star?
Speaker 2: And uh. And it's been that ever since. Baff of
Speaker 2: the family who called me dad to a granddad.
Speaker 4: I've got two final questions for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you made the record and it was complete
Speaker 3: and you're able to hear it all back, did you
Speaker 3: like and do you like to listen to your own projects?
Speaker 4: And what did you think about this one when it
Speaker 4: was all the way done? Your own thoughts of your
Speaker 4: own project.
Speaker 2: When it was finished. Yeah, I thought it was great. No,
Speaker 2: I really loved it myself, and it was very to me.
Speaker 2: I like to be The vocal was great, as I
Speaker 2: said it was. They were all in my key and
Speaker 2: it's like in a way though you know, we didn't
Speaker 2: never live together.
Speaker 1: It was put together by a man who knew me.
Speaker 2: And and I'm tired of thank you.
Speaker 3: To my final question, something again we alluded to earlier
Speaker 3: was playing in the clubs and a lot of artists
Speaker 3: miss out on that now and they kind of get
Speaker 3: famous before they're ready.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think they.
Speaker 2: You know, they have a hit in January, like those
Speaker 2: TV shows for the singer, and the singer wins has
Speaker 2: a number one in January and you don't hear from
Speaker 2: him after May.
Speaker 3: It's all over, and they're not really able to they
Speaker 3: don't know how to deal. Yeah, and they're not able
Speaker 3: to develop even as a performer, right because they don't
Speaker 3: do the clubs.
Speaker 1: They're own clubs.
Speaker 3: They got so famous so fast. You know, the kind
Speaker 3: of the legendary story about you guys. You'd be in
Speaker 3: a club in Germany and play for like six hours
Speaker 3: a night.
Speaker 4: Is that accurately?
Speaker 1: Do two bands? Okay?
Speaker 2: When I was there with Rory and the Beatles were there.
Speaker 2: When we were the two bands, we were on separate
Speaker 2: clubs at the beginning. Then kush me to the guy
Speaker 2: owned the clubs for us both on one club and
Speaker 2: we would battle each other for the audience, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: It would stomp in and stuff.
Speaker 2: And but at weekends we did twelve hours between us.
Speaker 2: And you know, I love it because we're in our
Speaker 2: book ten thousand hours, and they actually mentioned we actually
Speaker 2: put in our ten thousand Now.
Speaker 3: I think that's where I first knew of the story
Speaker 3: reading that book, that you'd put in that whole time.
Speaker 2: We'd play anywhere, and Saturday night in Liverpool whatever, the
Speaker 2: gig was one of the clubs that have an all
Speaker 2: night and it was so cheap they dontly ever hire
Speaker 2: a trio. The custom less and or all of us
Speaker 2: would go to these clubs and just play all night.
Speaker 2: Any chance we had to play, we would play.
Speaker 3: Well, now you can put your iPhone on a little
Speaker 3: stand and read the lyrics. You didn't have iPhones back then,
Speaker 3: you had to remember or guests.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, now I can't work without my little lyrics sheets.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh it is well, I love the album.
Speaker 2: Oh great, Well it's great being good talking to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, real easy for that.
Speaker 4: Thanks, really easy to talk to you too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You never know whenever Ringo star is coming over? Yeah
Speaker 3: you know, well, and did sit on that star? And
Speaker 3: now I know they.
Speaker 1: Are more Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well maybe because I've told these same stories since I've
Speaker 2: been here nineteen times.
Speaker 4: What story did what story? What story did you tell here?
Speaker 8: That?
Speaker 1: Sorry, I told that story.
Speaker 4: Well, no, it's a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anybody ask you about your grandparents the whole time?
Speaker 1: No, only you, That's all I want. This has been
Speaker 1: the best.
Speaker 3: You're saying that, ever, No, I look best.
Speaker 4: Ever, don't say ever, because then I know you're lying.
Speaker 4: But if you were safe and.
Speaker 1: Nearly the best, Okay.
Speaker 4: I'll take it. Ringo. It's been a pleasure, Thank you
Speaker 4: very much. The record's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's good.
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Speaker 4: All right back. The Ringo interview was super cool. I'm
Speaker 4: sad you can't be there ready.
Speaker 6: I'm jealous. I understand though, I get it completely understanding well,
Speaker 6: And it's not like I knew you were doing the
Speaker 6: interview and I thought like, okay, at some point he's
Speaker 6: gonna say like, oh right, we're doing at one o'clock,
Speaker 6: come to the house. But you never said anything. And
Speaker 6: to me, I'm like, I get it. I totally understand
Speaker 6: what's going on here.
Speaker 3: Just didn't want to have anybody extra that we didn't
Speaker 3: say was going to be there there. I don't think
Speaker 3: looking back that they would have cared if it had
Speaker 3: been like one of our immediate crew.
Speaker 6: But you also know me though, I would have grabbed
Speaker 6: a light and been like suah for sure.
Speaker 3: So I don't think if there was like one other
Speaker 3: person that was on crew, because we have such a
Speaker 3: small crew, it's just me, Mike and Reid and Read
Speaker 3: writing multiple cameras. But I didn't know what the vibe
Speaker 3: was going to be, so it was nobody's in. But it, dude,
Speaker 3: it was wild.
Speaker 6: I mean, how crazy you had a beatle at your house.
Speaker 3: There's two left, dude, he he seemed he's eighty four.
Speaker 3: He didn't seem eighty four. He seems sixty five.
Speaker 6: Well, when you send me the picture to the first
Speaker 6: thing I noticed is like, he looks good like Ringo.
Speaker 6: I mean, and Paul looks good and they're both older, right,
Speaker 6: but but Ringo looks healthy.
Speaker 3: I think Ringo either has really great hair color genetics
Speaker 3: or dyes his hair a little bit, which eventually I'll
Speaker 3: get to that stage too.
Speaker 4: Keeps him looking rot starish. I think that's a big part.
Speaker 3: But he also wears sunglasses, which I mean, when I
Speaker 3: wear my glasses, it keeps seven years off my age
Speaker 3: because you don't see the age in the eyes.
Speaker 4: So and he looks he dresses super trendo.
Speaker 3: It was smaller than I thought, although I guess if
Speaker 3: you asked me, I would have thought he was small
Speaker 3: because old British.
Speaker 6: Dudes are usually I figure all the Beatles were small. Yeah,
Speaker 6: me too, So yeah, it so real, it's great, it's amazing.
Speaker 6: Just and my wife, who.
Speaker 3: Really isn't impressed by anything, like I think her theme
Speaker 3: is that don't reppress me much, just general.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she was like, uh, Oh, that's really cool.
Speaker 4: You have a beetle coming over? Like, are you excited?
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, I think I'm a little excited,
Speaker 4: just to see how it goes.
Speaker 3: And I said, I'm gonna be excited before it because
Speaker 3: it may not go as well and I may not
Speaker 3: be excited later, but I'm gonna go out and have
Speaker 3: this moment and think it's cool and not be jaded.
Speaker 3: And she was like, that's cool. And then after he left,
Speaker 3: she was like, how is the beetle? I said, Sam Ringo.
Speaker 6: The Beatle?
Speaker 4: I said it was great.
Speaker 3: It was great, and so they had this story. Science
Speaker 3: has determined the most influential bands of all time. There
Speaker 3: are ten most influential bands of all time. You do
Speaker 3: not know the story. So I brought you on to.
Speaker 4: See how many you could guess ten of all time.
Speaker 1: Go.
Speaker 6: I think the first would be the Beatles.
Speaker 4: Number one, by a large margin is the Beatles.
Speaker 3: And obviously I have brought this up after I'm talking
Speaker 3: about Ringo. I bring it on and I'm like NoP's wallflowers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, number one, but that would have made sense too, Okay,
Speaker 6: go ahead, I would go led Zeppelin number two.
Speaker 3: That's not where I would have gone for number two.
Speaker 3: I would have guessed them. I would have thought they
Speaker 3: were a little lower, but you nailed it. Number two,
Speaker 3: led Zeppelin. I think if led Zeppelin existed today, they
Speaker 3: would be relevant totally. They're one of those few bands,
Speaker 3: led Zeppelin, Queen, notorious, big, not a band but artist
Speaker 3: whose sound was so different is still so different that
Speaker 3: I think if they came out now, that would still
Speaker 3: be fresh and new, because what they did wasn't even
Speaker 3: able even to be mimicked, like people couldn't even copy
Speaker 3: it and do a bad version of it because Robert
Speaker 3: Plant was so unique and Jimmy Page was so good.
Speaker 4: Due, all right, go ahead, that's number two.
Speaker 6: Is where it gets tricky.
Speaker 3: It doesn't, it doesn't. Don't think too much right now,
Speaker 3: just go right down the middle. Rolling Stones number three.
Speaker 3: Now you have to get a little tricky. But I
Speaker 3: knew those three of you get I'd probably guess the
Speaker 3: Stones it too, Okay, So the eternal debate is the Beatles.
Speaker 4: Versus the Stones? I think the answer is the Beatles.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But although the Rolling Stones did have a longer
Speaker 6: career and they what was cool about them? But they
Speaker 6: Beatles died, well, they did they broke up before they died?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Stones, who knows how long if they
Speaker 3: like hated each other and didnt announce an official breakup.
Speaker 4: Sure, when John Lennon died, couldn't come back. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: can't come back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but the but the Rolling Stones continued to make
Speaker 6: music and evolve with music.
Speaker 4: And be pop.
Speaker 3: Like in the eighties they did some stuff that was
Speaker 3: right down the middle pop again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they weren't doing I can't get no satisfaction for
Speaker 6: like thirty years.
Speaker 4: It's a good points.
Speaker 6: It's really cool. You mentioned Queen, so I'll throw them
Speaker 6: in there. But they may not be on the list though.
Speaker 4: Coins a number eight, okay.
Speaker 3: An indie rocker named Chris Dalla Reva investigated which bands
Speaker 3: have been more influential. He used Wikipedia's list of four
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy nine mainstream rock performers to see which
Speaker 3: artists they named as influences. So we're looking at a
Speaker 3: large sample of bands that are semi known to very known.
Speaker 3: The Beatles at one, Zeppelin at two, the Stones at three,
Speaker 3: Queen at eight.
Speaker 6: How about Nirvana. I feel like they taught a lot
Speaker 6: of especially people that are playing in bands now.
Speaker 3: No Nirvana did not make it. You'll get three strikes
Speaker 3: that strike.
Speaker 6: One, okay, strike one, so it can be solo artists too. Okay,
Speaker 6: I didn't know about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's just who's the most influential.
Speaker 6: Is it all music or just rock? All mute?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean.
Speaker 6: Mostly rock, because I would put Michael Jackson in there.
Speaker 3: So okay, let me just say I think it's all
Speaker 3: white people, right. I know it's not all white people,
Speaker 3: but it's mostly white people. So it's mostly rock.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, right Mike, Yeah, yeah, so then Elvis
Speaker 6: p on the list. Nope, no, already think of it.
Speaker 6: Let's say think rock though, Okay. Beach Boys no, what?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: I would have thought the Beach Boys were very influential.
Speaker 3: You know what's weird about the Beach Boys, I think people,
Speaker 3: and I don't think it's unfair because it's definitely the
Speaker 3: road they walked people down later in their career to
Speaker 3: where they were just literally the guys, Hey, we're just
Speaker 3: singing fun songs about the beach. But like pet Sounds,
Speaker 3: was so experimental like no other Yeah, and they really
Speaker 3: were revolutionary, But I think they fell into kind of
Speaker 3: the character they created where they didn't get the credit
Speaker 3: for their robust artistry, and we just think of them
Speaker 3: as beach shirts, you know, singing roun yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: What's crazy though, is that we didn't we weren't alive
Speaker 6: for this. But there was a big feud between the
Speaker 6: Beatles and the Beach Boys, and it was us versus Britain.
Speaker 4: Was it a manufactured feud?
Speaker 6: It was just kind of what was happening at the time,
Speaker 6: like you know as East Coast, West Coast, it's Tupac Biggie.
Speaker 6: Because people were in America were like, well, we love
Speaker 6: the Beach Boys, but the Beach Boys like we are
Speaker 6: the American band. But you guys are listening to the
Speaker 6: Beatles too, and the Beatles are like, no, no, no, the
Speaker 6: whole world loves us. So there was that feud, which
Speaker 6: is I mean, we weren't there for that, but I
Speaker 6: heard I hear about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Biggie and Tupac for ye number four?
Speaker 4: Is you too?
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 6: I mean I don't. Yeah, I fear more.
Speaker 4: Hate because they got you so big.
Speaker 3: I would say, it's because they got so big and
Speaker 3: they became Bono became a character. Because Bono turned into
Speaker 3: a preacher Now, Bono is always a preacher, but once
Speaker 3: you get so big, more people hear the preaching that
Speaker 3: aren't there for the preaching because they were just brought
Speaker 3: there by the massively popular songs.
Speaker 6: Man, his preaching's pretty awesome, though.
Speaker 3: It's awesome if that's your thing. But his songs are
Speaker 3: that yeah, right, but at least are catchy. I would
Speaker 3: think you too probably started though in like the late seventies,
Speaker 3: if I were dassing right, they did, but we know
Speaker 3: them from the the early massive success that we would
Speaker 3: know them from his the very late eighties into like
Speaker 3: the mid nineties. Correct, But you two at number four,
Speaker 3: David Bowie at number five, I can see a lot
Speaker 3: of extremely artistic, sure, aesthetically driven, meaning David Boye was
Speaker 3: a great songwriter and singer, but he did things that
Speaker 3: you would see and go what is he doing? Yeah, wow,
Speaker 3: that's crazy, Like the ziggy stardust stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's really cool. I saw a TikTok where they
Speaker 6: kind of went through all the phases of David Bowie
Speaker 6: and just the different looks that he did, you know,
Speaker 6: from like yeah the makeup to a regular good looking
Speaker 6: dude to like what is this too?
Speaker 3: It was really really cool and drogen it. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: you were like is he gay? Is he straight? Is
Speaker 3: he anything? Is he a woman?
Speaker 6: Is? Yeah? And the music followed all that too, because
Speaker 6: it was all over the place. Bob Dylan at six,
Speaker 6: of course, surprise you didn't guess that. I know I
Speaker 6: didn't think about that mostly, and I was thinking Paul
Speaker 6: Simon more than Bob Dylan.
Speaker 4: Or is Paul Simon Bob Dylan part two?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, because they were both you know, little protesters,
Speaker 6: you know, folk protesters at and during their prime. But
Speaker 6: I think Bob Dylan just hated the protesting after a while,
Speaker 6: like that's not me, Like I'm not a protester. I'm
Speaker 6: not the voice of America. I'm not the voice of protesting.
Speaker 6: So he kind of just went off and been like
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna go play regular music, leave me alone.
Speaker 6: But Paul Simon always just like he just has an
Speaker 6: acoustic guitar man and made his amazing music.
Speaker 3: Elton John at seven, yeah, Queen of eight, Hendrix at nine.
Speaker 3: That's the one non white person.
Speaker 6: And that's good because he did change. He did influence
Speaker 6: a lot of just guitar playing tone in general.
Speaker 3: Just like raw just tone like I can think of
Speaker 3: Jimmy Hendrix's tone and his guitar.
Speaker 4: I can hear his guitar.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm good enough to hear his
Speaker 3: style of like how he plays a guitar like his fingering. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I can hear his tone. And you know he's
Speaker 3: lefty right but he yes, but not the.
Speaker 4: Same he played it. He played a right handed guitar
Speaker 4: upside down.
Speaker 6: That's the right The strings were upside down.
Speaker 4: Instead, because he could to take any guitar and flip it.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Peppers at ten.
Speaker 6: Oh interesting? Do you hear a lot of Red Hot
Speaker 6: Chili Peppers in any band? I feel like they're so
Speaker 6: unique that no one has taken their style.
Speaker 3: I think that reggaeish type rap talk. I think that
Speaker 3: kind of lived through the No Doubts Who was it
Speaker 3: was a ska punk band, but I think had the
Speaker 3: Chili Peppers not existed a bit in that space, and
Speaker 3: Anthony Ketis could not sing when they started, he was
Speaker 3: just a rapping, yelling guy. I would even say that
Speaker 3: some of the rap rock stuff was influenced by that
Speaker 3: and was actually allowed by that.
Speaker 4: So like the corn the limp.
Speaker 3: Biscuit, I think without the Chili Peppers, had they not walked,
Speaker 3: those bands would have not been able to run. So yes,
Speaker 3: in that, I think it opened the door to where
Speaker 3: rock band. But we're also going to do some stuff
Speaker 3: that's not traditionally. Yeah, that would be my answer to that.
Speaker 3: I don't know that's tried to made the whole thing up.
Speaker 6: How long has it been since you've gone back and
Speaker 6: listened to the Red Hot Chili Pepper songs yesterday?
Speaker 4: Really? Yeah, I'm gonna have playlists that have four or
Speaker 4: five six songs.
Speaker 6: I did it like two weeks ago, just to kind
Speaker 6: of and I'm just in the mode of just showing
Speaker 6: my kids music that I grew up with, and we
Speaker 6: went through Red Hot Chili Peppers. Oh my goodness, dude,
Speaker 6: you just forget about all the jams that they had,
Speaker 6: from like Californiication to like Aeroplane. I forgot about Aeroplane.
Speaker 3: They have different decades where their music sounded different as well,
Speaker 3: like they were able to shift a bit the last
Speaker 3: five I know we did talk ten, but Springsteen I
Speaker 3: get only because I hear and know a lot of
Speaker 3: people that worship him that are really great. I don't
Speaker 3: personally get it, but I get that a lot of
Speaker 3: people love them and feel so I will respect that.
Speaker 4: Not for me.
Speaker 3: I do like some of his stuff, but for me
Speaker 3: is like he's my top. I just I'm not from
Speaker 3: the Northeast, not enough of like a songwriter to appreciate
Speaker 3: what he's done. It's like an architect looking at somebody
Speaker 3: who's a freaking awesome architect. I can look at a
Speaker 3: billion but that's a cool building, but I can't understand it.
Speaker 3: Right Alright, green Day, for sure, Yes, all pop punk,
Speaker 3: all punk that I ever hear, is mostly because Green
Speaker 3: Day existed. There's a lot of punk that existed before
Speaker 3: Green Day. There's punk I've not heard since. But Green
Speaker 3: Day was the thing that said, hey, we're punk. Here's
Speaker 3: a road to get the actual people's ears. It's not
Speaker 3: as pooping on people and spiting on people in the crowd. Sure, Mike,
Speaker 3: your punk guy thoughts.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they made it mainstream in the nineties,
Speaker 7: which influenced everything that came into two thousands, which is
Speaker 7: what I was more influenced by.
Speaker 5: But without them you wouldn't have even had it on
Speaker 5: the radio.
Speaker 4: Aerosmith the who in Metallica wrap up the list there.
Speaker 6: Did you know Aerosmith was from Boston?
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 6: There was a trivia at Olive Garden, like and I
Speaker 6: didn't know that I got it wrong. They said what
Speaker 6: band was known as the Boys from Boston.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I would have got Boys from
Speaker 3: Boston though as a title, but I knew they were
Speaker 3: from Boston. But if that was a trivia question, I
Speaker 3: would have guessed probably Boston.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Boston. One final story here, and
Speaker 3: this happened about a week ago. This country artist named
Speaker 3: Max McNown. I don't know him, but now you can
Speaker 3: just be good and people find you. So he hasn't
Speaker 3: come across some algorithm. I listened to him. He's really good.
Speaker 3: But he was about to make his headlining debut two
Speaker 3: sold out shows. It's the Bowery Ballroom in New York City.
Speaker 3: So he has two shows and he got bumped, and
Speaker 3: he's like, what do you mean? I sold the shows out?
Speaker 3: How did I get bumped? It's not like I'm a
Speaker 3: mid act or, a comedian and Dave Chappelle's coming in, Like,
Speaker 3: I sold these shows out and they're like, nah, sorry,
Speaker 3: we have to like remove your shows. It was because
Speaker 3: Paul McCartney wanted to play there.
Speaker 6: Oh these were pop up shows during SNL fifty.
Speaker 3: No, I think they were actual there. It was for Paul, yes, Paul,
Speaker 3: I thought it man for MAXI mc Now it's like,
Speaker 3: I don't think he was on there.
Speaker 6: Dude, I heard about these shows.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so I saw them on Paul mccarney's Instagram
Speaker 3: without knowing the story.
Speaker 4: So a bit awkward. But I'm telling you.
Speaker 6: If it's Paul McCartney, it's just understand, it's okay, and
Speaker 6: you tell the story forever and ever.
Speaker 4: That's the right one.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: I used to play. I had this gig in New York,
Speaker 6: like right when I started, but I got bumped? What
Speaker 6: by who? Paul McCartney.
Speaker 4: It would have been cool if Paul would have met him.
Speaker 3: I don't think they ever met, right, I don't think
Speaker 3: so that had been a cool picture.
Speaker 6: Could you do, like, all right, you bumped me? Fine,
Speaker 6: could you give me like ten tickets to the show
Speaker 6: for me and my friends and family?
Speaker 4: I think they're playing the same night that's why you
Speaker 4: get bumped. I know, I know Paul McCartney show.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like so this artist but he's playing the
Speaker 3: same night as Paul McCartney.
Speaker 4: Why would you do a ticket to him?
Speaker 6: So they get bumped and like bumped as in like canceled.
Speaker 4: Yeah you can't play there, right, Oh yeah canceled.
Speaker 6: Yes, so he gets to go to the show, right.
Speaker 3: I know he got a new venue. Oh oh, I
Speaker 3: didn't get to that part yet. Sorry, he found They
Speaker 3: did find a new venue to play.
Speaker 6: They helped him find it.
Speaker 4: Not sure if they helped. Oh man, he did find
Speaker 4: a new.
Speaker 6: Tricky situation because yes, Paul McCartney has bowed down to Paul.
Speaker 4: It's like real money.
Speaker 6: This is light, yeah, this is your living.
Speaker 3: He they did find a new venue and he's able
Speaker 3: to play. Okay, good, he got a bigger place too,
Speaker 3: I think, I think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so great story because it ended up well. I'll
Speaker 3: give you a quick story of this happened to me once.
Speaker 3: Not for Paul McCartney though, but I was doing a
Speaker 3: stand up show in Las Vegas at the Win and
Speaker 3: have a really nice theater and it was always cool
Speaker 3: for me. I always thought, man, if I could play
Speaker 3: the win's that's really cool in Vegas because that was
Speaker 3: to me the fancy theater.
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, and it paid.
Speaker 3: Really well and Vegas pays really well. Vegas and corporate
Speaker 3: events pay the best not always the best crowds, but
Speaker 3: the money's massive, and so I'm like, this is awesome
Speaker 3: the win. We put the show up, it sells out
Speaker 3: in three hours, so I didn't have to like stress
Speaker 3: over the show being sold out. We're like two weeks
Speaker 3: out from the show and we get a call going, hey,
Speaker 3: they have to bump you from the night. I'm like,
Speaker 3: the whole night, they'll canceling my show, and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like in your contract there is an option to pay
Speaker 3: you out completely. You don't even have to work, and
Speaker 3: they'll refund everybody tickets. And I'm like, no that I
Speaker 3: feel bad doing that to like people of the WoT
Speaker 3: tikes its even though they're getting the money back, because
Speaker 3: people may have flown to Vegas or they have plans
Speaker 3: to go to Vegas course more than just a ticket.
Speaker 3: And the wind was awesome about it, but they were like,
Speaker 3: it's not really something we can control. Like, what is
Speaker 3: it like if we pay you is that cool, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't like it. Can we find a
Speaker 3: different plan? I'm like, what's happening? Apparently, I don't know
Speaker 3: if it was Steve Wynn or if it was one
Speaker 3: of like that, a CEO of different kind was really
Speaker 3: close with Taylor's shared and they wanted that to do
Speaker 3: like a Yellowstone premiere.
Speaker 4: It's funny how it all comes back around. I can
Speaker 4: doing stuff with Yellowstone.
Speaker 6: Yeah, full circle.
Speaker 3: And They're like, we don't really have control over We're
Speaker 3: so sorry. Can we pay you a show and a half?
Speaker 3: And you don't do the show?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, well it was a lot of money,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't know. I feel bad.
Speaker 3: I'm like I would rather not, like, let's find a
Speaker 3: different plan. Because they also didn't want to be going
Speaker 3: on bad mouthing, which is not even what I'm doing now,
Speaker 3: because it ended up working out and they said, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: what can we do? I couldn't do a different weekend
Speaker 3: because I was already and I also had we had
Speaker 3: listeners coming in, and I said, well can I do
Speaker 3: because it was a Saturday night show? I was like,
Speaker 3: can I do Sunday Night? And then maybe seventy percent
Speaker 3: of the listeners can stay and we'll refund everybody. And
Speaker 3: also you offer me one and a half times, but
Speaker 3: now my travels different and they're like done one and
Speaker 3: a half times. We'll send the wind plane to pick
Speaker 3: you up and take you home, and you do it
Speaker 3: Sunday night, and I was like, I'm in. And so
Speaker 3: we got bumped, not for Paul McCartney, but for the
Speaker 3: Yellowstone premiere, maybe like season two or something. Sason, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: So is that why they were all there? Because I
Speaker 3: remember we got there on Saturday. That's exactly why they
Speaker 3: were all there. Harrison Ford was there, and we.
Speaker 4: Saw some of them, like the tables. Yeah, we saw
Speaker 4: Taylor at the bar.
Speaker 6: We did see him at the bar. I didn't know
Speaker 6: what he looked like, but you guys said that that
Speaker 6: was Taylor.
Speaker 4: I never saw him.
Speaker 6: You were there with me and you Oh, okay, you
Speaker 6: act like I do stuff.
Speaker 4: I was just in my room.
Speaker 6: I think we were found a bar to watch UFC
Speaker 6: or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when I got bumped.
Speaker 6: Wow, I do remember that. Yeah I didn't. I guess
Speaker 6: I didn't know the whole root of that story.
Speaker 3: I never told I never told it because it was
Speaker 3: the Wind was so cool about it, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna respect this. And they didn't really have a choice.
Speaker 3: I mean it was big people and big friends. Sure, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's it. Thank you guys, uh ringo, you're awesome. Check
Speaker 3: out the video if you want to watch the interview,
Speaker 3: it's pretty crazy. It's on YouTube. Just go over to
Speaker 3: the Bobby Bones channel. Is the YouTube page.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you guys, and we'll see you next week.
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Speaker 4: He's in love.
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