WEBVTT - #495 - Ringo Starr on How He Got His Name, When He Was Introduced to Music, Stories About Playing All Night in Liverpool + Bobby, Eddie & Mike Discuss Most Influential Bands

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<v Speaker 1>While didn't the factory.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when it came I want to play, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to play, and we got this three month gig. So

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<v Speaker 2>I decided I'm leaving the factory, and all of my

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<v Speaker 2>family came to all house to tell me it's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a hobby Stone.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Episode four ninety five. Ringo star Ringo, Star

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<v Speaker 3>of the Beatles, Ringo, Star of the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 4>What it feels like? Give me just saying his name?

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<v Speaker 4>That was? That was a little weird, surreal, really cool,

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<v Speaker 4>all those things, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it felt like a dream until he was sitting down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it just it didn't seem like real life because

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<v Speaker 3>that's somebody who's been so wildly famous for so much

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<v Speaker 3>longer than we've even been alive, which is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what was weird for me was the more

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<v Speaker 3>that he was coming over. I think somehow word got out.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I say outwardly that he was coming over to

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<v Speaker 3>my house like on the show anywhere?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I did in the studio, but there were

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<v Speaker 3>executives even within our company that wanted to come to

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<v Speaker 3>my house and meet Ringo.

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<v Speaker 4>Did that get to you?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't hear about that, and usually I'll be pretty

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<v Speaker 3>diplomatic and hey can't or occasionally okay, But there was

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<v Speaker 3>no way I was gonna have anybody extra there for Ringo,

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<v Speaker 3>just out of respect, because he's so famous that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure that happens all the time, and so I just

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<v Speaker 3>had to hit him with straight no period in texts.

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<v Speaker 3>And then later I went back and was like, hey, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't able to get to the text. We just

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't have a lot of people in.

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<v Speaker 4>But I thought I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Courageous to text two hours out from Ringo. Also, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even really know these people that well, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>can I come to your house and meet Ringo?

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<v Speaker 4>Like both of those things felt a little weird.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a wild ass.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a wild ass. Yeah, it's a wild ask.

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<v Speaker 7>And he came in with like security too, so you

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<v Speaker 7>wouldn't want extra people around him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I never saw security, and so you can tell

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<v Speaker 3>me what happened. So they pull up to the house

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<v Speaker 3>and like a was it a big black suv that.

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<v Speaker 7>TV like fully tanted windows, and the first person who

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<v Speaker 7>gets out is like this huge bodyguard and like a

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<v Speaker 7>Navy seal hat.

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<v Speaker 5>He looked hardcore.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, he didn't follow Ringo down to the studio because

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<v Speaker 3>I never saw that guy, no.

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<v Speaker 7>Which I was surprised. I thought maybe he would escort

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<v Speaker 7>him the entire way. But as soon as he saw

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<v Speaker 7>that he was in the house heading back that way,

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<v Speaker 7>he was good.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you sure that wasn't just a really buff uber driver.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he was not.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a driver.

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<v Speaker 5>And then the security guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it was kind of weird too because it had

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<v Speaker 3>just rained, snowed, iced all things that got super cold.

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<v Speaker 3>So my property is not like a real studio where

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<v Speaker 3>people come all the time like we have. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>building and we have our studio built. But Ringo's eighty

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<v Speaker 3>four yep. And so we're like, oh crap, it's icy

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<v Speaker 3>all through these different parts. Just to get back to

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<v Speaker 3>the studio, Like there are stairs, there's like an entrance

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<v Speaker 3>to the back of the property. It's a path that

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<v Speaker 3>goes downstairs, goes through a gate, all for foot traffic.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was pretty icy in places, and so you

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<v Speaker 3>and I are trying to negotiate how to get him

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<v Speaker 3>back there without stepping on the ice and falling.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there were so many factors going into that. Just

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<v Speaker 7>the weather I was like, maybe he won't even come

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<v Speaker 7>because of this, And then the ice on the stairs,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like.

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<v Speaker 5>We gotta get him in here.

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<v Speaker 3>We were going, anybody have a blanket we can throw

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<v Speaker 3>on the stairs. I was just imagining what if we

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<v Speaker 3>like broke the hip of a beetle like that had

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<v Speaker 3>been terrible. So it ends up what we did was

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<v Speaker 3>we walked him through the house, which is fine. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even think about that because for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>we do no shoes at my house, and so now

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<v Speaker 3>I don't walk anybody into the house just for that

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<v Speaker 3>reason alone.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was he was like, wh don't we

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<v Speaker 4>just bring up to the house.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's just get him in there.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, great point.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to make sure the dogs are up, because

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<v Speaker 3>we don't need our My dog's jumping all over.

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<v Speaker 4>Ringo Star.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm sitting down in the chair and it was

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<v Speaker 3>just him and like two women, like a promo person,

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<v Speaker 3>probably a pr person, and they walked right in and

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<v Speaker 3>he sits down here like, hey, I'm Ringo or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>the impression is. But you have told me don't try

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<v Speaker 3>to shake his hand, which is awesome because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like shaking hands either.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they said, he's like you fist bump.

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<v Speaker 4>So what was funny was I know that I love

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<v Speaker 4>that anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Mostly that's how I'm attempting to touch people through fists

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<v Speaker 3>or elbows or bow. And so he comes in a

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<v Speaker 3>fist bump them. Read no one gave him the heads up,

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<v Speaker 3>don't try to shake Ringo's hand. Yeah, And so he

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<v Speaker 3>walks in and read those this big old six foot

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<v Speaker 3>three hand at him, Hey, Ringo, and Ringo headed him

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<v Speaker 3>with the turkey. Ringo puts the fist into the hand

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<v Speaker 3>and so Ringo sits down. You're gonna hear the interview

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<v Speaker 3>in just a second. And I felt like he was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot nicer, softer, and more generous than I would

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<v Speaker 3>have expected, because I'm sure everywhere he goes people are

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<v Speaker 3>clamoring to meet him to get a picture. We also

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<v Speaker 3>were a little worried, Hey, what can we not ask?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I thought there would be rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he has this new record out which I spent

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<v Speaker 3>time listening to, which I think it's really good because

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean this in a way of it's a

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<v Speaker 3>simple country record and it sounds like Ringo being Ringo,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's probably not as simply made as it was

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<v Speaker 3>to hear. Meaning the real brilliance of this is it

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<v Speaker 3>feels like, oh wow, this is pretty simple record, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there was so much that went into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I really liked it, and I'm not just saying that

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<v Speaker 3>because there are a lot of records I just go, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>it's out. Because if I don't listen to it a

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<v Speaker 3>or I listen to a couple songs, or I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like it, it's not my thing. I just won't won't

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<v Speaker 3>give an opinion on it. But I really liked it

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<v Speaker 3>because it has Alison Krause on it, it has Larkin

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<v Speaker 3>Poe on it. I'm big fans of the Larkin Poet

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<v Speaker 3>sisters and Alison Kraus and Billy Strings. So he found

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<v Speaker 3>kind of that Americana bluegrass feel, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>from TiVo Burnett, who produced the record.

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<v Speaker 4>But he came in, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Sat down, and obviously you want to talk about the Beatles,

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<v Speaker 3>but I need to give him a place to get

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<v Speaker 3>to the Beatles, so then I can ask questions about

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<v Speaker 3>the Beatles. But as soon as he sits down, before

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<v Speaker 3>we even went on, he was like kids these days,

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<v Speaker 3>they they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Have clubs to play in how are they supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>get good?

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<v Speaker 3>And so this is why we're like finishing cameras and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, getting his people seated.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I hear him say that, and you hear

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<v Speaker 4>me go to it where it's hey.

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<v Speaker 3>We mentioned that kids don't get to play in clubs

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<v Speaker 3>and get good, and that kind of got us to

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<v Speaker 3>Beatles stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But he never said, don't talk about the Beatles. No,

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<v Speaker 4>so we definitely did.

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<v Speaker 3>What I found crazy and he'll mention this in a second,

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<v Speaker 3>is when he was playing two bands at once and

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<v Speaker 3>he play for six hours and then you go play

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<v Speaker 3>with the Beatles for six hours and play twelve hour days.

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<v Speaker 4>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just wild to hear him talk about Beatles

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<v Speaker 7>stories when we've only heard people talk about like stories

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<v Speaker 7>of stories. But to hear from the source itself was

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<v Speaker 7>I had a moment where it's like, Wow, this is

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<v Speaker 7>an actual Beatle in here telling Beatles stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Firsthand, I'm pretty jaded, not in a bad way, but

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<v Speaker 3>because I do I do it, and we do it

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<v Speaker 3>a lot where we talk to people that have made

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<v Speaker 3>significant impacts on pop culture or country music or they're

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<v Speaker 3>great artists. This was different because this is like a

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<v Speaker 3>real life museum, like the most historical band of all time,

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<v Speaker 3>like one of the four people, one of the two.

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<v Speaker 7>Alive, and not only that, in your house, Yeah, my house,

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<v Speaker 7>my house.

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<v Speaker 4>I was walking a Beatle through your house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank god a dog didn't jump on him, because

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<v Speaker 3>they would have because they don't know the Beatles. Stanley

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<v Speaker 3>and Neller don't know the Beatles. Some fun facts about

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<v Speaker 3>Ringo Star before we get to the interview. He joined

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<v Speaker 3>the Beatles pretty late, meaning they weren't already famous. But

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<v Speaker 3>you may have heard this before. He wasn't an original

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<v Speaker 3>member of the Beatles. He replaced Pete Best as the

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<v Speaker 3>drummer in nineteen sixty two, but that was before they

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<v Speaker 3>became famous. So that's like Dave Grohl and Nirvana. Dave

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<v Speaker 3>grohls a founding member of Nirvana and all of our

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<v Speaker 3>minds for the most part, because when they got big,

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<v Speaker 3>he was the drummer, like he was the drummer that

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<v Speaker 3>did it with them, And so Ringo is that because

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't the Beatles yet until Ringo got there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like Travis Barker Bloken eighty two.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, I don't, I don't, I'm not there, help me.

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<v Speaker 4>They had a drummer before him, see I didn't even

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<v Speaker 4>know that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, a guy named Scott before they really got famous,

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<v Speaker 7>and then Travis joined the band and they got huge.

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<v Speaker 3>Ringo suffered from serious health issues as a kid. He

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<v Speaker 3>had something called parent hmmm, parrotinidis at age six. He

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<v Speaker 3>had tuberculosis at age thirteen, which kept him in the

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<v Speaker 3>hospital for long periods. He did sing lead on some

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<v Speaker 3>Beatles songs, mainly the drummer, but he's sang lead on

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<v Speaker 3>very famous songs like I Get By With the Little

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<v Speaker 3>Help from My Friends, Oh, Yellow Submarine, Octopus Garden. We

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<v Speaker 3>talked about him being left handed here because he when

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<v Speaker 3>he plays guitar now he plays it right handed and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, but you're left handed, so we get

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<v Speaker 3>into that conversation. But he's a left handed rumber, but

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<v Speaker 3>really wasn't able to play left handed. He was the

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<v Speaker 3>first Beatle to release a solo album. His nineteen seventy album,

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<v Speaker 3>Sentimental Journey, was the first solo album by a Beatle

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<v Speaker 3>After the band's breakup. He's acted in several films, including

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<v Speaker 3>Caveman and That'll Be The Day. Have you seen either

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<v Speaker 3>one of those? As movie Mike no Is that before

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<v Speaker 3>your Time, I think so. He's even narrated early episodes

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<v Speaker 3>of Thomas and Friends.

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<v Speaker 7>That's where I knew him from first. The Train that

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<v Speaker 7>was my favorite show as a kid, and I remember

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<v Speaker 7>him as the conductor and doing the narration.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of

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<v Speaker 3>Fame twice, once as a member of the Beatles and

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<v Speaker 3>then as a solo artist the Beatles in eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>a solo artist in twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>He says peace and love.

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<v Speaker 3>Peace and love a lot the picture we took because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't only touch people in pictures anymore. Just generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll see that, not just with the Ringo, with anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gotten kind of weird too, where like even Dirk

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm friends with, it's like or Matt Carney was

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<v Speaker 3>up here, they're like, why you're not touching me? And

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, put their arm over my shoulder. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>getting in the habit and not touching people for the

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<v Speaker 3>one or two people that don't want to be touched.

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<v Speaker 3>But what Ringo does is he doesn't like to be

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<v Speaker 3>touched obviously. Same and he holds a peace sign up

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<v Speaker 3>and so he's holding it up in the picture. So

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<v Speaker 3>I do a peace sign. It looks at me and goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the ticket, which is pretty funny. Coach is how

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<v Speaker 3>nice he was. I'm telling you, I was so surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>He was knighted by the Queen in twenty eighteen, officially

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<v Speaker 3>making him Sir Richard Starkly. He inspired a drumming style.

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<v Speaker 3>It's cool on TikTok now to see a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the young drummers kind of give Ringo credit for a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a like a avant garde type style within

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<v Speaker 3>boundaries and they're like, check this fill out. Ringo doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>get the credit. It's it became like a trending thing

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<v Speaker 3>on TikTok in the last.

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<v Speaker 7>Year and they're like, this is what he could have played,

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<v Speaker 7>but this is what he decided to play. It was

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<v Speaker 7>like so different, Like oh, that sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>As a drummer, he has a unique grip. Not a drummer,

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<v Speaker 3>not really familiar with a matched grip or a traditional

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<v Speaker 3>jazz grip, but he did. He'd write some songs. He

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<v Speaker 3>was close with Keith Moon and John Bonham. Keith Moon

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<v Speaker 3>from The Who, John Bonham of led Zeppelin. Those were drummers,

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<v Speaker 3>his son to drummer all right. He nearly left the

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<v Speaker 3>Beatles during the recording of the White album. Ringo briefly

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<v Speaker 3>quit the band due attention, but was convinced to return.

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<v Speaker 3>His bandmates even decorated his drum kit with flowers and

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<v Speaker 3>to welcome on back. I have two more. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>painter and his drums were stolen. His first Ludwig drum kit,

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<v Speaker 3>which became iconic, was stolen in nineteen sixty. It surfaced

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<v Speaker 3>decades later and was auctioned offer over two million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>The buyer Paul McCartney.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked to t.

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<v Speaker 3>Bone Burnett, who will be in a later episode, and

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<v Speaker 3>t Bone said that when he was producing this record,

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<v Speaker 3>he would go to Ringo's house. Ringo has the same

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<v Speaker 3>symbols that he had when he played with the Beatles,

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<v Speaker 3>and that he's never cleaned them once, so that dust

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<v Speaker 3>and that dirt is from fifty sixty years of just music,

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<v Speaker 3>including the Beatles, which is pretty crazy. T Bone Burnett episode,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys a gonna like two because not only did

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<v Speaker 3>he produce his Ringo album, but he did walk the

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<v Speaker 3>line h Joaquin Phoenix. We talked about Johnny Cash. He

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<v Speaker 3>did Old Brother, We're out there, Old Brother, We're out Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I did that music won tons of Grammies for that.

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<v Speaker 3>He produced the Counting Crows record August and everything after

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<v Speaker 3>he did the Wallflowers. He brought up the Wallflowers and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I got an opening. I'm going in for

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<v Speaker 3>the Counting Crows.

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<v Speaker 7>You're just casually bringing up these huge and yeah, you're like,

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<v Speaker 7>wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we get back to Ringo because he was

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<v Speaker 3>a massive Beatles fan, so to him that was super cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, T Bone Burnette produced Ringo Star record,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna get to Ringo now, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>come back and talk about some Beatles stuff after the

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<v Speaker 3>interview here because the interview is like thirty five minutes

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<v Speaker 3>or so. The album is called Look Up. It's Ringo

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<v Speaker 3>Star produced by T Bone Burnett. We talked about some

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<v Speaker 3>of the artists that are on with him.

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<v Speaker 4>I really like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you're a fan of country music, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say a fan of like seventies and eighties straightforward

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<v Speaker 3>country music, you will like this. I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything else need to say?

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's it. Yeah, it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll come back after. But here is Ringo star Ringo.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to see you, Nice to meet you. Pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 3>exciting here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanksful.

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<v Speaker 4>So were you?

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<v Speaker 3>You were just over at the Ryman. One of my

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<v Speaker 3>friends just texted me and said he saw you over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was over there hanging out with all those guys

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<v Speaker 2>and some girls.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The gist of it I thought was that they're all

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<v Speaker 2>like newcomers coming up and they got a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>be on stage and the place was full, and that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a great move. Well done radio.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'll take the credit myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you did it, all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>If that works, I'll take all the credit. So how

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<v Speaker 3>long have you been in Nashville on this distin since Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 4>And what do you do while you're here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't do much because it's snow point, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>walking around it's so damn cold.

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<v Speaker 4>Snow. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, snow.

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<v Speaker 1>Snowed last time I was here. This is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if I arrived, snows it coming. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're rehearsing and we're doing promos and we're doing radio chats.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fun that you still rehearse because I would think

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<v Speaker 3>why would you need to rehearse? I know you have

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<v Speaker 3>all the new songs, but I just think you probably

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<v Speaker 3>have it all figured out, Like is it how long

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<v Speaker 3>have you had the band with you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't have the band with.

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<v Speaker 2>They're touring all from local guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't, So that makes sense as to why you'd rehearse. Then,

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<v Speaker 3>So are you rehearsing to play like the opry or

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<v Speaker 3>because I know you're doing all the dates.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing the Opry.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm here this time, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do one from the album and another song, so give

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<v Speaker 2>it all the way. I did a track naturally book Owens,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the story is so great. I love

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<v Speaker 2>it because you know he did it. I found it

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<v Speaker 2>in the sixties on the record and I just loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did it with the Beatles, and then in

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<v Speaker 2>the seventies we did it together, you know, as far

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<v Speaker 2>out that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I am left handed, but I played guitar left handed,

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<v Speaker 3>which has been very very difficult for me because I

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<v Speaker 3>can't play anybody else's guitar. Like in this town, everybody plays,

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<v Speaker 3>and so if I want to play, I can never

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<v Speaker 3>play anybody's instrument.

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<v Speaker 4>You're left handed. Did you decide to play right handed

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<v Speaker 4>because of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Or just the chance to sit behind a don't kiss?

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<v Speaker 2>In Liverpool? I sat behind the right handed kits and

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<v Speaker 2>thought this is it. I didn't know any better.

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<v Speaker 4>See, you had to play right handed. It was the

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<v Speaker 4>only way that you could learn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I just did it naturally. Really, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like, oh, okay, so it's this. If I

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<v Speaker 2>played reggae, I have to turn the whole kiss around.

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<v Speaker 3>What about if you play guitar? What do you play

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<v Speaker 3>right handed?

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<v Speaker 4>Left handed?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? You do play every play golf right?

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<v Speaker 6>Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>So are you even left handed?

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<v Speaker 1>Because well, I'm left handed.

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<v Speaker 2>If I write my name, you know, and there's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a mad left handed guy because it's some

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<v Speaker 2>of it's right and some of it's left. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I played dolls with my left I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you're just deciding what you want to do with

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<v Speaker 3>what hand. That's the great grandad.

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<v Speaker 2>My well in a way, but my grandmother moved me

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<v Speaker 2>from being left handed because I was righting as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>to right handed because she thought that would be better

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 3>My grandmother raised me for a lot of my life

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<v Speaker 3>adopted me. You mentioned your grandmother. Did she have a

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<v Speaker 3>big part in your raising?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was brought up because my dad left when

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<v Speaker 2>I was three and my mom and my grandma, my

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<v Speaker 2>granddad wrote you, and so they had a big part

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<v Speaker 2>in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, my my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 3>My my dad left when I was five, and so

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<v Speaker 3>my grandmother jumped in and adopted me, and thank god,

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<v Speaker 3>what what uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we didn't go that fall. They just loved me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she had to adopt me because my mom left too.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was like I needed the last name and

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<v Speaker 3>had to have somebody I understand now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my mom loved me every minutes of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I was listening to the record over the past a

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<v Speaker 3>few days or so, I saw you on the front

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<v Speaker 3>of a magazine here in town. Yeah, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the cover. Yeah, and I was like, man, that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when I started.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on the cover of Nashville.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what I saw. There was the cover of

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<v Speaker 4>the big.

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<v Speaker 3>National magazine, and so I was going through and listening

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<v Speaker 3>to the music. But what I was drawn to are

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<v Speaker 3>some of the artists that you brought along with you,

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<v Speaker 3>like Molly Tutle Loves and Billy Strings, Yeah, Philly who's

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<v Speaker 3>out of his mind?

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<v Speaker 1>And good Rodneck Ronell.

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<v Speaker 4>So why out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Lark and Poe, I've done like a songwriter. Think

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<v Speaker 3>they're amazing. So I want to ask you, like, why

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<v Speaker 3>Lark and Poe. Let's start there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Larkin Poe is Actually I asked tvaon to get

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<v Speaker 2>them on my record because I saw them they did

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<v Speaker 2>a music care thing for Tom Petty and I think

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<v Speaker 2>TVAU must have put the band together and they were

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<v Speaker 2>playing and this is at least five years ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love them then it was it just worked really well.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I said, well, you know, whatever we're putting together,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be great if you could put the girls together.

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<v Speaker 1>And he did and so they's so dynamic. Yeah, great, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know the lineup we've got for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the CBS TV show and next month it's coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>It blows me away. It's just full of really incredible people.

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<v Speaker 3>Alison Krass loved here. Yeah, and t Bone and her

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<v Speaker 3>history working together. Okay, how did you enjoy Alison Alison

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<v Speaker 3>Krass on the record?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, who could ask for anything better than it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Even greater because that's the one I wrote, you know, thankful.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote that with.

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<v Speaker 2>The engineers a producer as well, Bruce Sugar, and we

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<v Speaker 2>put that on the rest of the tabone and T Bones

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<v Speaker 2>tea Bone's friends.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your writing process now? Will you write?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a one line and we can hang out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and write a song. That's how I did

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<v Speaker 2>it for all my records.

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<v Speaker 3>So if someone's like, here's a concept and we'll just

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<v Speaker 3>hang out and work.

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<v Speaker 2>We were to dinner Jim Keltner, Joe Walsh and I

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<v Speaker 2>and the girls, and for some reason I had a

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, you've gotter get up to get down,

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<v Speaker 2>and Joe watsh and I wrote a song cale You've

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<v Speaker 2>got to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Up to get down.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, you know, you gotta get out the seat,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta do something to get down.

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<v Speaker 4>How much how much time it took you around?

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<v Speaker 3>I saw him walking, Oh yeah, yeah, this is uh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the coolest my house has ever been, like

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<v Speaker 3>ever in the history of my house being alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is the incredible T Bone.

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<v Speaker 3>How long from when you have an idea until you

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<v Speaker 3>need to record it before you possibly move on?

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<v Speaker 4>All the day?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any of those times. No, I'm blessed

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I mean, Richard Mark's played here last night,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a good friend. He was in the Old

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<v Speaker 2>Stars and he'd come over and write and we came

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<v Speaker 2>to the conclusion that if it took more than twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes to write the song, we were failures.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you still enjoy playing?

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<v Speaker 1>I love playing?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that still?

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<v Speaker 1>I love playing? I love I'm in the band.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the band, you know, and like with the

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<v Speaker 2>Old Stars, Yeah, it's ringling the Old Stars, but I

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<v Speaker 2>play everybody else's song, you know, I'm playing drums for them,

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<v Speaker 2>and and then I do half of the show in

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<v Speaker 2>the front, so it's a movement, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 2>kid for them, I'm down the front for most of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>Walk me through this album as far as one, why

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<v Speaker 3>do it this style? Because you can do many styles?

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<v Speaker 3>And then how how did you and t Bone get together?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>T Bone and I have met many times, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>told this story a thousand times over the last year,

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<v Speaker 2>that he would, you know, I'd have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>parties in the seventies and eighties, and most nights he

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<v Speaker 2>was there, and I didn't invite him once he come

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<v Speaker 2>with one of the other musicians or whatever. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know he got there, but he didn't. He just stand around,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, surveying. And but anyway, as we moved on

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<v Speaker 2>to two years ago, eighteen months ago, I went to Olivia.

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<v Speaker 2>Harris and George's wife had a reading of a book,

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<v Speaker 2>the Poems for George, at the Sunset Marquee in La.

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<v Speaker 2>I was invited. Fifty other people were there and T

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<v Speaker 2>Bom was one of them. It's so great to tell

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<v Speaker 2>the story and you're in the room and we said, Hi, hello,

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening. You know, I was doing EPs through the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>I only made EPs four tracks, and I said, I,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, you know, if you've got a track

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<v Speaker 2>you feel it'll be good for me, why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>send me the files? Anyway, it was like crazy, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all the piece are sort of pop rock.

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<v Speaker 2>You sent me this beautiful, beautiful country song and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, life is good now. I thought, oh, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do a country EP. That was the instigator, and I

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<v Speaker 2>got some other guys to write two songs.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a song and we had that.

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<v Speaker 2>Song, and then T Bong came into La and we

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<v Speaker 2>were chatting about this, that and the other, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know about songs, and and I said, well, have you

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<v Speaker 2>got any songs? And he actually went into his pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love to do the action. I go to

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<v Speaker 2>my top pocket and he pulled out the files of

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<v Speaker 2>nine songs.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, I mean a song interviewer.

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<v Speaker 2>He said nine, and we did three or four that

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<v Speaker 2>moment I just got because I had the kit in

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<v Speaker 2>the next room. I have a small studio, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, I'd like to play and play. I

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<v Speaker 2>only want to play the track twice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm not getting it right all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but getting it emotional, well, I think it should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think a lot of that is from when

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<v Speaker 3>you recorded, you know, thirty years ago or more, when

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't have nobody did because of technology, didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to track things. And you're most comfortable in

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<v Speaker 3>that scenario and you had really wonderful things that you

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<v Speaker 3>had created that came out that way.

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<v Speaker 4>So now that's kind of your style.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know, as long as you play, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>find you where you're comfortable. And I was always comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>playing with the singer. I've always believed they don't need

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<v Speaker 2>me boot banging about. Well, you know, I always use

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<v Speaker 2>the song yesterday, but I never felt they needed that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just been the way I played from the start.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm holding you down, I'm keeping you together,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, bring it up a bit or take

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<v Speaker 2>it down a bit, but it's more of an emotion.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can never do the same field twice. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't play this track and put a fell in and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people, oh, do that, Phil, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's double it, especially the Beatle, especially John, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't do it because it's where I come off.

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<v Speaker 1>Is is you know it's an emotional thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Instinctual maybe yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 2>And instinctual is a good witch, sure, And so you

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<v Speaker 2>know I don't I won't be there next time we

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<v Speaker 2>play it. I mean i'll get the track. I know

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<v Speaker 2>where they you know, just rock on through. But the

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<v Speaker 2>film can come there that And we actually have a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of songs on this record where I do a

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<v Speaker 2>piece change for the chorus and and then I'm playing

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<v Speaker 2>away and then the next choor is I don't come

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<v Speaker 2>in right away because I'm not feeling it this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh halfway through I'll bring it, you know that whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you know, imagine the first time and get the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>So and t Bone is very good though, it's very

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<v Speaker 2>cool like that.

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<v Speaker 3>We were talking a little bit before you came in,

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<v Speaker 3>just briefly, like how young artists are supposed to get

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<v Speaker 3>good Now there really aren't a lot of clubs, not

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<v Speaker 3>like they're probably used to because I'm assuming when you

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<v Speaker 3>guys were coming up, there.

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<v Speaker 4>Were a lot of club You could play a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of club a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling that to the kids in the rhymen

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<v Speaker 2>waiting to go on and do it, you know, whatever they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Dave Steward and I one time, and this

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<v Speaker 2>was a long time ago, two thousand and eight, we

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<v Speaker 2>would decided we were going to do like go on

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<v Speaker 2>tour purposely to then go around the country by clubs,

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<v Speaker 2>just so you know, the new band would have somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>to go. I'm disgusted with a big band. If you

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<v Speaker 2>open for them, you have to pay them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, you know, I think, where where's the give

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<v Speaker 1>back here? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>So one time to like drive them all crazy with

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<v Speaker 2>the old stars, I had a local band and every

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<v Speaker 2>gig we played the local band got up and played

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<v Speaker 2>with one of them that they'd picked.

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<v Speaker 8>The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

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<v Speaker 8>Bobby Cast.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you guys ever open for anyone early on?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we opened for Roy Orbison were opened for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. And in fact, the first tour

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<v Speaker 2>we did with I can't even think of a name

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<v Speaker 2>now because you've asked me about it. She was like

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<v Speaker 2>a big hit. She was like fourteen fifteen in England.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all in England, and we had three numbers

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning. The curtains opened, we did three numbers

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<v Speaker 2>and that's how we to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a step up from clubs to theaters.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we kept doing that and we'd have tweeny

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<v Speaker 2>low pairs and Roy was great. Roy was the hardest

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 2>actor we ever had to follow. Why is that because

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 2>he's great. He would just stand there with those shades

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<v Speaker 2>on and not a lot of movement, but all coming out,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we would be behind the curtain. We're next

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<v Speaker 2>on you Don't, Don't, Don't don't. We beat playing on

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<v Speaker 2>the guitar, little hints of our songs while he was on.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we we closed the first half.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd moved up and then we closed the show and

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<v Speaker 2>we had a few problems with some American acts who

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<v Speaker 2>came over, and you know, we were just rising in

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<v Speaker 2>England really fast, and you know, they'd come in expecting

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<v Speaker 2>to be top of the bill, and Tommy Rowe was

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<v Speaker 2>great because.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd realized right away.

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<v Speaker 2>But we had another act that came over, who I'm

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<v Speaker 2>American on top of the bill and said, okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>we played to the halfway through, we played the break

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, and we left and everybody else left left.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on his own.

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<v Speaker 3>When was music introduced to you as a kid.

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<v Speaker 4>As far as the big.

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<v Speaker 1>News, my stepdad loved.

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<v Speaker 2>He had his little room with a little record player,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was a big band and.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Billy Daniels.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of old people, and he would play that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think because of that, this influence of him playing

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<v Speaker 2>all this music the big bands, even if it's straight rock,

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I sort of shuffled it.

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<v Speaker 1>I swing it a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that all came because you know, even

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<v Speaker 2>when Little Richard came up rock and roll days, everything

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<v Speaker 2>was swing like big band and so I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always loved him for I loved him anyway, but

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<v Speaker 2>the music was great. And the last thing he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be playing my stuff and well have you heard this?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like like one of my biggest memory

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 2>and he says, well have you heard this?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was Sarah Bonn.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's pretty far out for you my dad's

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<v Speaker 2>stepdad to play and give you a hint about people

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<v Speaker 2>out there. But the other good side of the story,

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<v Speaker 2>my son Zach was like eight and he came running

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<v Speaker 2>down from school and he's got a record under his own.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, oh God, we gotta play this. So I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta play this to you. I'd say, well, who is it? Son?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Rachels.

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<v Speaker 2>So I followed my stepdad's attitude with my own kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, let's play it and see what it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, my grandma.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a lot of Johnny Cash, was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of modern sounds of country music from Ray Charles, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was what I was kind of introduced to his music.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I kind of found my own music, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that was like your stepdad and that music, like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I remember first. But then when I found

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<v Speaker 3>my own music, it was a bit different. What was

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<v Speaker 3>your own music first?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I like the blues and I love

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>country and they were the first two and then pop

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 2>records of the time. And the Lightning Hopkins the blues player.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of all of the blues players. I just loved him.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked it because he didn't really finish the lines

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<v Speaker 2>of it, I'm going down to He didn't bother singing,

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 2>but he just got to me. He was like, so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a well known story now, but my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>one of my friends in Liverpool and I decided we

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go to Houston, Texas to be where Lightning lived.

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<v Speaker 2>And we went down to the embassy and we asked

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<v Speaker 2>for the American embassy in Liverpool and we asked for

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<v Speaker 2>the papers that we could billion to, you know, emigrate

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<v Speaker 2>to Houston, Texas, and they gave us these papers. But

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 2>we both worked in the factory, and they gave us

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>a list of factories we could apply to to get

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<v Speaker 2>a job. And uh so we filled those forms in

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>and then we took him back like we're ready, and

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 2>they gave us a lot more forms and we're teenagers.

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>We ripped them. The Bogger's up.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you ever go ever? Even later?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I played that, Yeah, but you never went to

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<v Speaker 4>the house like, well.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I never did that. You know, things have changed.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like when this record, I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>so naturally you, and I think that speaks to both

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<v Speaker 3>t bone.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's absolutely speaks to t bone. But but

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>he put me together in a great space.

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<v Speaker 3>So and I think my point is it didn't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you were doing anything unnatural at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's what he figured out. He pointed that out

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and I love. They say, well, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what about the song? I said, every song was in

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<v Speaker 2>my key. You know, sometimes people send you songs and

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>the key of f demented, and they say, why haven't

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 2>they never heard me?

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>But he and since we got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Know each other a bit better and we actually spoke

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 2>to each other, he always felt he thought about me

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 2>many times, but he felt and when I listened back

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<v Speaker 2>to like on the Beatle tracks, out did the Carl

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Perkins record.

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<v Speaker 1>From there it started.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine always had sort of a country ish feel, and

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<v Speaker 2>and then the ones I wrote it. The first songs

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote were sort of country songs, and so he

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<v Speaker 2>put all that together, and then he put the tracks together.

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 2>He wrote the songs. As I said, he had nine

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 2>and for everybody on them. And I did the drums

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>in LA in my little studio because the sound is

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 2>so great there out of the blue.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>We didn't do anything to it. It just was a bedroom.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 2>But now we just put the drums in and for

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 2>some reason, the drums sound great there and uh and

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 2>the vocals and I'd send them back to him or

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 2>then he'd come into LA and that's how that's how

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 2>we did it. And yeah, I love to listen to it,

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm really thankful to t Bone for what

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 2>he did.

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 4>I love as far as the sounds of the record.

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 4>I love the.

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Keys, the keys in my key.

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 4>I love the whistle.

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, there's just.

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 3>The sound of the record sounds so organically you while

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 3>still sounding like a country record, but not like you're

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 3>trying to do a country record.

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>It is.

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 4>It's the perfect balance.

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm the whistler.

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 4>No, I didn't know that. Are you a good whistler?

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm on the record.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:13.839
<v Speaker 3>Well, but you got to put yourself on the record though.

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it sounds great, but can are you a

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 3>good whistler?

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:16.760
<v Speaker 4>In general?

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I was?

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 2>And then I had some dental work and the mouths moves.

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I've got to train my that's pretty good though, that's

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>still good. No, but no, that's no, that's me the record.

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I can happy radio.

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:42.839
<v Speaker 2>See that's it's still a plus.

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, but for me it was a It was

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>just a bigger than an a.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 2>My whistling that's on the record because I could get

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 2>a little deeper. But as I said, I had dental

0:35:56.040 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 2>work done and the so that the lawers changed. It's mad,

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 2>but that's how it is.

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>I want to ask you one more question about your

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 3>grandparents because that resonates with me so much.

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Did they get to see your success.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>No, I was in the band then, and sort of

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I was in.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 2>And we were playing in Germany. I was with Rory

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 2>by then Rory's some of the Hurricanes.

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:27.919
<v Speaker 1>And.

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I was there when my granddad went, and I was

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 2>doing the gig in Germany when my grandma went, so

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't come home because everyone would had to play.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>But no, they didn't see it like unfolding. I mean,

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 2>they knew I played, but they never came to a

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 2>gig and we went big time.

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>We were local bands.

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 3>What was your in your mind, your ceiling when you

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 3>were starting out and you're playing clubs, You're traveling around,

0:36:57.920 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 3>like how big did you think?

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 4>How party did you think you could go?

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:06.359
<v Speaker 1>In music? I didn't.

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember, like thinking of one of my mom's

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:14.399
<v Speaker 2>best friends, Annie Maguire, she would say, you know, I'd

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 2>be hitting them in the house. I can see you

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 2>on the London Palladium one day, son, and she gave spirits,

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of people in Liverpool gave your spirit.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Anyway I played, I only could take the snare because

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 2>we were a skiffle group. And Eddie Clayton, the guy

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 2>next door, and he was in the factory. I was

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>in the factory and Roy the you know, it.

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Was just a.

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Wooden box with a pole and that was the base.

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 2>And I had a sur and that's how we started.

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 2>And we had no sense of time. And I remember

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 2>that once we played some sort of dance and.

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Maggie, Maggie May. They are taking her the wagon,

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 1>each other out and the dancing they're dancing. Can you

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>sew it down?

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm amazed because I have really great time, you

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 2>know time, and I'm good at that. I mean, it's

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 2>just God given gift that I can keep time.

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 4>What was your job in the factory.

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 2>My job was to be an apprentice engineer. At first

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I worked on the railways as a delivery kid boy.

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I was sixteen, and then I was on the coastal boats,

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:34.720
<v Speaker 2>like party boats, where like four or five hundred people

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 2>would go from Liverpool to Wales and all they did

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 2>was drink all the way and drink all the way back.

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 2>And and I lasted five weeks on the railway, five

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 2>weeks on the boats, and then my mom, you know,

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I've been fired, and by Monday she'd me in a

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.280
<v Speaker 2>new job and she got me this job in the factory.

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>But while in that factory, that's when it came I

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 2>want to play. I want to play. And then I

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 2>joined this other group, Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, and

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 2>we got this three month gig in a holiday camp

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 2>in England. So I decided I'm leaving the factory. I

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 2>was just twenty ish, and all of my family came

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>to our house to tell me it's all right as

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 2>a hobby soon. But they wanted me to keep that job,

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I said, no, no, I'm going, And

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you know that's why I changed my name. Also, we

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 2>went to this gig three months. We were going to

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 2>be there in the Rock and Calypso ballroom.

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:42.320
<v Speaker 1>And.

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 2>I changed my name fully ter Ringo then because in Liverpool,

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 2>if you do something, you know, if you're limping, that

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 2>you'd probably be called Limpi. But I started wearing rings

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 2>that sort of a take on my mom. She loved

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 2>flashy stuff. And so some people were starting to say,

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 2>hey rings, what's going on? You know, like gang members,

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 2>we would be hey rings and uh. And we got

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to Buttland's holiday camp and we all changed our name

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 2>of the guitarist called himself Tyle Brian and Johnny guitar

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 2>was great and the.

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 4>Name was Johnny Guitar. His name I assume he played guitar.

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Called him Johnny Guitar really because he changed his name

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 1>to that.

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Really his name was Johnny, but it's you know, it

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 2>was another name, family name.

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>And uh. I put like ringo Stocky.

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 2>I thought that Stocky doesn't look you know, didn't look right,

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 2>so I put Ringo star.

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 4>Did you two rs the first time?

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 1>You have two hours to make it star?

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>And uh. And it's been that ever since. Baff of

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.879
<v Speaker 2>the family who called me dad to a granddad.

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 4>I've got two final questions for you.

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you made the record and it was complete

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 3>and you're able to hear it all back, did you

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 3>like and do you like to listen to your own projects?

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 4>And what did you think about this one when it

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 4>was all the way done? Your own thoughts of your

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 4>own project.

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 2>When it was finished. Yeah, I thought it was great. No,

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I really loved it myself, and it was very to me.

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I like to be The vocal was great, as I

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 2>said it was. They were all in my key and

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 2>it's like in a way though you know, we didn't

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:36.240
<v Speaker 2>never live together.

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>It was put together by a man who knew me.

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 2>And and I'm tired of thank you.

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 3>To my final question, something again we alluded to earlier

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 3>was playing in the clubs and a lot of artists

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 3>miss out on that now and they kind of get

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 3>famous before they're ready.

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think they.

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, they have a hit in January, like those

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 2>TV shows for the singer, and the singer wins has

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 2>a number one in January and you don't hear from

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 2>him after May.

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 3>It's all over, and they're not really able to they

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 3>don't know how to deal. Yeah, and they're not able

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 3>to develop even as a performer, right because they don't

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 3>do the clubs.

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>They're own clubs.

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 3>They got so famous so fast. You know, the kind

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 3>of the legendary story about you guys. You'd be in

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:22.800
<v Speaker 3>a club in Germany and play for like six hours

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 3>a night.

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Is that accurately?

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Do two bands? Okay?

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 2>When I was there with Rory and the Beatles were there.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 2>When we were the two bands, we were on separate

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 2>clubs at the beginning. Then kush me to the guy

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 2>owned the clubs for us both on one club and

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.920
<v Speaker 2>we would battle each other for the audience, you know

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:41.319
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 1>It would stomp in and stuff.

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:48.479
<v Speaker 2>And but at weekends we did twelve hours between us.

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I love it because we're in our

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 2>book ten thousand hours, and they actually mentioned we actually

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 2>put in our ten thousand Now.

0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 3>I think that's where I first knew of the story

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 3>reading that book, that you'd put in that whole time.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 2>We'd play anywhere, and Saturday night in Liverpool whatever, the

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 2>gig was one of the clubs that have an all

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 2>night and it was so cheap they dontly ever hire

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 2>a trio. The custom less and or all of us

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 2>would go to these clubs and just play all night.

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Any chance we had to play, we would play.

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:27.479
<v Speaker 3>Well, now you can put your iPhone on a little

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 3>stand and read the lyrics. You didn't have iPhones back then,

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 3>you had to remember or guests.

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, now I can't work without my little lyrics sheets.

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:41.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh it is well, I love the album.

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh great, Well it's great being good talking to you.

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, real easy for that.

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Thanks, really easy to talk to you too.

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 3>You never know whenever Ringo star is coming over? Yeah

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, well, and did sit on that star? And

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 3>now I know they.

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Are more Yeah.

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Well maybe because I've told these same stories since I've

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 2>been here nineteen times.

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:07.359
<v Speaker 4>What story did what story? What story did you tell here?

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 8>That?

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I told that story.

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, no, it's a good one.

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:10.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Anybody ask you about your grandparents the whole time?

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>No, only you, That's all I want. This has been

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the best.

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 3>You're saying that, ever, No, I look best.

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 4>Ever, don't say ever, because then I know you're lying.

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 4>But if you were safe and.

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Nearly the best, Okay.

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 4>I'll take it. Ringo. It's been a pleasure, Thank you

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 4>very much. The record's awesome.

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 1>It's good.

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 8>Let's take a quick pause for a message from our

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 8>sponsor and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 4>All right back. The Ringo interview was super cool. I'm

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 4>sad you can't be there ready.

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 6>I'm jealous. I understand though, I get it completely understanding well,

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 6>And it's not like I knew you were doing the

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.919
<v Speaker 6>interview and I thought like, okay, at some point he's

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 6>gonna say like, oh right, we're doing at one o'clock,

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 6>come to the house. But you never said anything. And

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 6>to me, I'm like, I get it. I totally understand

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 6>what's going on here.

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 3>Just didn't want to have anybody extra that we didn't

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 3>say was going to be there there. I don't think

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 3>looking back that they would have cared if it had

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 3>been like one of our immediate crew.

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 6>But you also know me though, I would have grabbed

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 6>a light and been like suah for sure.

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think if there was like one other

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 3>person that was on crew, because we have such a

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:27.879
<v Speaker 3>small crew, it's just me, Mike and Reid and Read

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 3>writing multiple cameras. But I didn't know what the vibe

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 3>was going to be, so it was nobody's in. But it, dude,

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 3>it was wild.

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean, how crazy you had a beatle at your house.

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 3>There's two left, dude, he he seemed he's eighty four.

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 3>He didn't seem eighty four. He seems sixty five.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, when you send me the picture to the first

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<v Speaker 6>thing I noticed is like, he looks good like Ringo.

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 6>I mean, and Paul looks good and they're both older, right,

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:55.240
<v Speaker 6>but but Ringo looks healthy.

0:45:55.560 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 3>I think Ringo either has really great hair color genetics

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 3>or dyes his hair a little bit, which eventually I'll

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 3>get to that stage too.

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 4>Keeps him looking rot starish. I think that's a big part.

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 3>But he also wears sunglasses, which I mean, when I

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 3>wear my glasses, it keeps seven years off my age

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:14.720
<v Speaker 3>because you don't see the age in the eyes.

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 4>So and he looks he dresses super trendo.

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 3>It was smaller than I thought, although I guess if

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 3>you asked me, I would have thought he was small

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 3>because old British.

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<v Speaker 6>Dudes are usually I figure all the Beatles were small. Yeah,

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 6>me too, So yeah, it so real, it's great, it's amazing.

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 6>Just and my wife, who.

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<v Speaker 3>Really isn't impressed by anything, like I think her theme

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 3>is that don't reppress me much, just general.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and she was like, uh, Oh, that's really cool.

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 4>You have a beetle coming over? Like, are you excited?

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, yeah, I think I'm a little excited,

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 4>just to see how it goes.

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 3>And I said, I'm gonna be excited before it because

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 3>it may not go as well and I may not

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 3>be excited later, but I'm gonna go out and have

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 3>this moment and think it's cool and not be jaded.

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 3>And she was like, that's cool. And then after he left,

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 3>she was like, how is the beetle? I said, Sam Ringo.

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<v Speaker 6>The Beatle?

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 4>I said it was great.

0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 3>It was great, and so they had this story. Science

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:04.879
<v Speaker 3>has determined the most influential bands of all time. There

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<v Speaker 3>are ten most influential bands of all time. You do

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<v Speaker 3>not know the story. So I brought you on to.

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<v Speaker 4>See how many you could guess ten of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Go.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the first would be the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 4>Number one, by a large margin is the Beatles.

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.359
<v Speaker 3>And obviously I have brought this up after I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Ringo. I bring it on and I'm like NoP's wallflowers.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, number one, but that would have made sense too, Okay,

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 6>go ahead, I would go led Zeppelin number two.

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 3>That's not where I would have gone for number two.

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I would have guessed them. I would have thought they

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 3>were a little lower, but you nailed it. Number two,

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<v Speaker 3>led Zeppelin. I think if led Zeppelin existed today, they

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 3>would be relevant totally. They're one of those few bands,

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:46.280
<v Speaker 3>led Zeppelin, Queen, notorious, big, not a band but artist

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 3>whose sound was so different is still so different that

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<v Speaker 3>I think if they came out now, that would still

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<v Speaker 3>be fresh and new, because what they did wasn't even

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<v Speaker 3>able even to be mimicked, like people couldn't even copy

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 3>it and do a bad version of it because Robert

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Plant was so unique and Jimmy Page was so good.

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<v Speaker 4>Due, all right, go ahead, that's number two.

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:08.240
<v Speaker 6>Is where it gets tricky.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't, it doesn't. Don't think too much right now,

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<v Speaker 3>just go right down the middle. Rolling Stones number three.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you have to get a little tricky. But I

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<v Speaker 3>knew those three of you get I'd probably guess the

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<v Speaker 3>Stones it too, Okay, So the eternal debate is the Beatles.

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:23.280
<v Speaker 4>Versus the Stones? I think the answer is the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, But although the Rolling Stones did have a longer

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 6>career and they what was cool about them? But they

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 6>Beatles died, well, they did they broke up before they died?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the Stones, who knows how long if they

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:38.280
<v Speaker 3>like hated each other and didnt announce an official breakup.

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 4>Sure, when John Lennon died, couldn't come back. Yeah, you

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 4>can't come back.

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.919
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but the but the Rolling Stones continued to make

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 6>music and evolve with music.

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 4>And be pop.

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Like in the eighties they did some stuff that was

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 3>right down the middle pop again.

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they weren't doing I can't get no satisfaction for

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 6>like thirty years.

0:48:57.640 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 4>It's a good points.

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 6>It's really cool. You mentioned Queen, so I'll throw them

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<v Speaker 6>in there. But they may not be on the list though.

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 4>Coins a number eight, okay.

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 3>An indie rocker named Chris Dalla Reva investigated which bands

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 3>have been more influential. He used Wikipedia's list of four

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.239
<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy nine mainstream rock performers to see which

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 3>artists they named as influences. So we're looking at a

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 3>large sample of bands that are semi known to very known.

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 3>The Beatles at one, Zeppelin at two, the Stones at three,

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Queen at eight.

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 6>How about Nirvana. I feel like they taught a lot

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 6>of especially people that are playing in bands now.

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:34.720
<v Speaker 3>No Nirvana did not make it. You'll get three strikes

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 3>that strike.

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<v Speaker 6>One, okay, strike one, so it can be solo artists too. Okay,

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 6>I didn't know about that.

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So it's just who's the most influential.

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 6>Is it all music or just rock? All mute?

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean.

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:49.479
<v Speaker 6>Mostly rock, because I would put Michael Jackson in there.

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 3>So okay, let me just say I think it's all

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:54.399
<v Speaker 3>white people, right. I know it's not all white people,

0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 3>but it's mostly white people. So it's mostly rock.

0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 6>Okay, all right, right Mike, Yeah, yeah, so then Elvis

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 6>p on the list. Nope, no, already think of it.

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 6>Let's say think rock though, Okay. Beach Boys no, what?

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 6>I would have thought the Beach Boys were very influential.

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 3>You know what's weird about the Beach Boys, I think people,

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 3>and I don't think it's unfair because it's definitely the

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:20.319
<v Speaker 3>road they walked people down later in their career to

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 3>where they were just literally the guys, Hey, we're just

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:24.799
<v Speaker 3>singing fun songs about the beach. But like pet Sounds,

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 3>was so experimental like no other Yeah, and they really

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 3>were revolutionary, But I think they fell into kind of

0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:34.360
<v Speaker 3>the character they created where they didn't get the credit

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:39.799
<v Speaker 3>for their robust artistry, and we just think of them

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 3>as beach shirts, you know, singing roun yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 6>What's crazy though, is that we didn't we weren't alive

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 6>for this. But there was a big feud between the

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 6>Beatles and the Beach Boys, and it was us versus Britain.

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 4>Was it a manufactured feud?

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 6>It was just kind of what was happening at the time,

0:50:57.160 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 6>like you know as East Coast, West Coast, it's Tupac Biggie.

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 6>Because people were in America were like, well, we love

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 6>the Beach Boys, but the Beach Boys like we are

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 6>the American band. But you guys are listening to the

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 6>Beatles too, and the Beatles are like, no, no, no, the

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 6>whole world loves us. So there was that feud, which

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 6>is I mean, we weren't there for that, but I

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 6>heard I hear about it.

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:17.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was Biggie and Tupac for ye number four?

0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:18.359
<v Speaker 4>Is you too?

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow?

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 6>I mean I don't. Yeah, I fear more.

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 4>Hate because they got you so big.

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 3>I would say, it's because they got so big and

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 3>they became Bono became a character. Because Bono turned into

0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:33.359
<v Speaker 3>a preacher Now, Bono is always a preacher, but once

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 3>you get so big, more people hear the preaching that

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.439
<v Speaker 3>aren't there for the preaching because they were just brought

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:40.320
<v Speaker 3>there by the massively popular songs.

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:42.320
<v Speaker 6>Man, his preaching's pretty awesome, though.

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 3>It's awesome if that's your thing. But his songs are

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 3>that yeah, right, but at least are catchy. I would

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 3>think you too probably started though in like the late seventies,

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:54.440
<v Speaker 3>if I were dassing right, they did, but we know

0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 3>them from the the early massive success that we would

0:51:57.520 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 3>know them from his the very late eighties into like

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 3>the mid nineties. Correct, But you two at number four,

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 3>David Bowie at number five, I can see a lot

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:15.840
<v Speaker 3>of extremely artistic, sure, aesthetically driven, meaning David Boye was

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 3>a great songwriter and singer, but he did things that

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 3>you would see and go what is he doing? Yeah, wow,

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 3>that's crazy, Like the ziggy stardust stuff.

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, what's really cool. I saw a TikTok where they

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:29.360
<v Speaker 6>kind of went through all the phases of David Bowie

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 6>and just the different looks that he did, you know,

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:34.720
<v Speaker 6>from like yeah the makeup to a regular good looking

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 6>dude to like what is this too?

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.399
<v Speaker 3>It was really really cool and drogen it. I mean, yeah,

0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 3>you were like is he gay? Is he straight? Is

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:44.040
<v Speaker 3>he anything? Is he a woman?

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 6>Is? Yeah? And the music followed all that too, because

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.759
<v Speaker 6>it was all over the place. Bob Dylan at six,

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 6>of course, surprise you didn't guess that. I know I

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.799
<v Speaker 6>didn't think about that mostly, and I was thinking Paul

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:56.359
<v Speaker 6>Simon more than Bob Dylan.

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:58.439
<v Speaker 4>Or is Paul Simon Bob Dylan part two?

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Yeah, because they were both you know, little protesters,

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, folk protesters at and during their prime. But

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 6>I think Bob Dylan just hated the protesting after a while,

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 6>like that's not me, Like I'm not a protester. I'm

0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 6>not the voice of America. I'm not the voice of protesting.

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:16.839
<v Speaker 6>So he kind of just went off and been like

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 6>I'm just gonna go play regular music, leave me alone.

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:22.880
<v Speaker 6>But Paul Simon always just like he just has an

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:25.360
<v Speaker 6>acoustic guitar man and made his amazing music.

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:29.479
<v Speaker 3>Elton John at seven, yeah, Queen of eight, Hendrix at nine.

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 3>That's the one non white person.

0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 6>And that's good because he did change. He did influence

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.840
<v Speaker 6>a lot of just guitar playing tone in general.

0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Just like raw just tone like I can think of

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Hendrix's tone and his guitar.

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:42.280
<v Speaker 4>I can hear his guitar.

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:44.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'm good enough to hear his

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 3>style of like how he plays a guitar like his fingering. Yeah,

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 3>but I can hear his tone. And you know he's

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 3>lefty right but he yes, but not the.

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:54.439
<v Speaker 4>Same he played it. He played a right handed guitar

0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 4>upside down.

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 6>That's the right The strings were upside down.

0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 4>Instead, because he could to take any guitar and flip it.

0:53:58.840 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Peppers at ten.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh interesting? Do you hear a lot of Red Hot

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 6>Chili Peppers in any band? I feel like they're so

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:25.360
<v Speaker 6>unique that no one has taken their style.

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:30.919
<v Speaker 3>I think that reggaeish type rap talk. I think that

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of lived through the No Doubts Who was it

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:38.360
<v Speaker 3>was a ska punk band, but I think had the

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Chili Peppers not existed a bit in that space, and

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Ketis could not sing when they started, he was

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 3>just a rapping, yelling guy. I would even say that

0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 3>some of the rap rock stuff was influenced by that

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 3>and was actually allowed by that.

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:53.920
<v Speaker 4>So like the corn the limp.

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 3>Biscuit, I think without the Chili Peppers, had they not walked,

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:00.319
<v Speaker 3>those bands would have not been able to run. So yes,

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 3>in that, I think it opened the door to where

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:04.640
<v Speaker 3>rock band. But we're also going to do some stuff

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 3>that's not traditionally. Yeah, that would be my answer to that.

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that's tried to made the whole thing up.

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:11.200
<v Speaker 6>How long has it been since you've gone back and

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:13.840
<v Speaker 6>listened to the Red Hot Chili Pepper songs yesterday?

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 4>Really? Yeah, I'm gonna have playlists that have four or

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 4>five six songs.

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 6>I did it like two weeks ago, just to kind

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:21.800
<v Speaker 6>of and I'm just in the mode of just showing

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:23.840
<v Speaker 6>my kids music that I grew up with, and we

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 6>went through Red Hot Chili Peppers. Oh my goodness, dude,

0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:28.959
<v Speaker 6>you just forget about all the jams that they had,

0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 6>from like Californiication to like Aeroplane. I forgot about Aeroplane.

0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 3>They have different decades where their music sounded different as well,

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 3>like they were able to shift a bit the last

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<v Speaker 3>five I know we did talk ten, but Springsteen I

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<v Speaker 3>get only because I hear and know a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people that worship him that are really great. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>personally get it, but I get that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people love them and feel so I will respect that.

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<v Speaker 4>Not for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like some of his stuff, but for me

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<v Speaker 3>is like he's my top. I just I'm not from

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<v Speaker 3>the Northeast, not enough of like a songwriter to appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>what he's done. It's like an architect looking at somebody

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<v Speaker 3>who's a freaking awesome architect. I can look at a

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<v Speaker 3>billion but that's a cool building, but I can't understand it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right Alright, green Day, for sure, Yes, all pop punk,

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 3>all punk that I ever hear, is mostly because Green

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<v Speaker 3>Day existed. There's a lot of punk that existed before

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<v Speaker 3>Green Day. There's punk I've not heard since. But Green

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<v Speaker 3>Day was the thing that said, hey, we're punk. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>a road to get the actual people's ears. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>as pooping on people and spiting on people in the crowd. Sure, Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>your punk guy thoughts.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean they made it mainstream in the nineties,

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<v Speaker 7>which influenced everything that came into two thousands, which is

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<v Speaker 7>what I was more influenced by.

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<v Speaker 5>But without them you wouldn't have even had it on

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<v Speaker 5>the radio.

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<v Speaker 4>Aerosmith the who in Metallica wrap up the list there.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you know Aerosmith was from Boston?

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<v Speaker 4>I did.

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<v Speaker 6>There was a trivia at Olive Garden, like and I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't know that I got it wrong. They said what

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<v Speaker 6>band was known as the Boys from Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that I would have got Boys from

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<v Speaker 3>Boston though as a title, but I knew they were

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<v Speaker 3>from Boston. But if that was a trivia question, I

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<v Speaker 3>would have guessed probably Boston.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go with Boston. One final story here, and

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<v Speaker 3>this happened about a week ago. This country artist named

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<v Speaker 3>Max McNown. I don't know him, but now you can

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<v Speaker 3>just be good and people find you. So he hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>come across some algorithm. I listened to him. He's really good.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was about to make his headlining debut two

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<v Speaker 3>sold out shows. It's the Bowery Ballroom in New York City.

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<v Speaker 3>So he has two shows and he got bumped, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, what do you mean? I sold the shows out?

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<v Speaker 3>How did I get bumped? It's not like I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>mid act or, a comedian and Dave Chappelle's coming in, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I sold these shows out and they're like, nah, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to like remove your shows. It was because

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<v Speaker 3>Paul McCartney wanted to play there.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh these were pop up shows during SNL fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think they were actual there. It was for Paul, yes, Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it man for MAXI mc Now it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he was on there.

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<v Speaker 6>Dude, I heard about these shows.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, so I saw them on Paul mccarney's Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>without knowing the story.

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<v Speaker 4>So a bit awkward. But I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 6>If it's Paul McCartney, it's just understand, it's okay, and

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<v Speaker 6>you tell the story forever and ever.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the right one.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>I used to play. I had this gig in New York,

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<v Speaker 6>like right when I started, but I got bumped? What

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<v Speaker 6>by who? Paul McCartney.

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<v Speaker 4>It would have been cool if Paul would have met him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they ever met, right, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>so that had been a cool picture.

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<v Speaker 6>Could you do, like, all right, you bumped me? Fine,

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<v Speaker 6>could you give me like ten tickets to the show

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<v Speaker 6>for me and my friends and family?

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're playing the same night that's why you

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<v Speaker 4>get bumped. I know, I know Paul McCartney show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, like so this artist but he's playing the

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<v Speaker 3>same night as Paul McCartney.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would you do a ticket to him?

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<v Speaker 6>So they get bumped and like bumped as in like canceled.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah you can't play there, right, Oh yeah canceled.

0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:35.440
<v Speaker 6>Yes, so he gets to go to the show, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he got a new venue. Oh oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to that part yet. Sorry, he found They

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<v Speaker 3>did find a new venue to play.

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<v Speaker 6>They helped him find it.

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<v Speaker 4>Not sure if they helped. Oh man, he did find

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:45.240
<v Speaker 4>a new.

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<v Speaker 6>Tricky situation because yes, Paul McCartney has bowed down to Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like real money.

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<v Speaker 6>This is light, yeah, this is your living.

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<v Speaker 3>He they did find a new venue and he's able

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<v Speaker 3>to play. Okay, good, he got a bigger place too,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I think so.

0:58:59.480 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so great story because it ended up well. I'll

0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:05.919
<v Speaker 3>give you a quick story of this happened to me once.

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<v Speaker 3>Not for Paul McCartney though, but I was doing a

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<v Speaker 3>stand up show in Las Vegas at the Win and

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<v Speaker 3>have a really nice theater and it was always cool

0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:16.520
<v Speaker 3>for me. I always thought, man, if I could play

0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:18.840
<v Speaker 3>the win's that's really cool in Vegas because that was

0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:21.320
<v Speaker 3>to me the fancy theater.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh absolutely, and it paid.

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<v Speaker 3>Really well and Vegas pays really well. Vegas and corporate

0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:32.240
<v Speaker 3>events pay the best not always the best crowds, but

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.800
<v Speaker 3>the money's massive, and so I'm like, this is awesome

0:59:34.840 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 3>the win. We put the show up, it sells out

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:39.880
<v Speaker 3>in three hours, so I didn't have to like stress

0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 3>over the show being sold out. We're like two weeks

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<v Speaker 3>out from the show and we get a call going, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>they have to bump you from the night. I'm like,

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:50.439
<v Speaker 3>the whole night, they'll canceling my show, and they're like, yeah,

0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:54.000
<v Speaker 3>like in your contract there is an option to pay

0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:55.560
<v Speaker 3>you out completely. You don't even have to work, and

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:58.200
<v Speaker 3>they'll refund everybody tickets. And I'm like, no that I

0:59:58.200 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 3>feel bad doing that to like people of the WoT

0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:01.440
<v Speaker 3>tikes its even though they're getting the money back, because

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<v Speaker 3>people may have flown to Vegas or they have plans

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<v Speaker 3>to go to Vegas course more than just a ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>And the wind was awesome about it, but they were like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not really something we can control. Like, what is

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:14.680
<v Speaker 3>it like if we pay you is that cool, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't like it. Can we find a

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<v Speaker 3>different plan? I'm like, what's happening? Apparently, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it was Steve Wynn or if it was one

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<v Speaker 3>of like that, a CEO of different kind was really

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<v Speaker 3>close with Taylor's shared and they wanted that to do

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<v Speaker 3>like a Yellowstone premiere.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny how it all comes back around. I can

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<v Speaker 4>doing stuff with Yellowstone.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, full circle.

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<v Speaker 3>And They're like, we don't really have control over We're

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<v Speaker 3>so sorry. Can we pay you a show and a half?

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<v Speaker 3>And you don't do the show?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, well it was a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, I don't know. I feel bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like I would rather not, like, let's find a

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<v Speaker 3>different plan. Because they also didn't want to be going

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<v Speaker 3>on bad mouthing, which is not even what I'm doing now,

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<v Speaker 3>because it ended up working out and they said, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>what can we do? I couldn't do a different weekend

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<v Speaker 3>because I was already and I also had we had

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<v Speaker 3>listeners coming in, and I said, well can I do

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<v Speaker 3>because it was a Saturday night show? I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>can I do Sunday Night? And then maybe seventy percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the listeners can stay and we'll refund everybody. And

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<v Speaker 3>also you offer me one and a half times, but

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<v Speaker 3>now my travels different and they're like done one and

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<v Speaker 3>a half times. We'll send the wind plane to pick

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<v Speaker 3>you up and take you home, and you do it

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday night, and I was like, I'm in. And so

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<v Speaker 3>we got bumped, not for Paul McCartney, but for the

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<v Speaker 3>Yellowstone premiere, maybe like season two or something. Sason, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So is that why they were all there? Because I

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<v Speaker 3>remember we got there on Saturday. That's exactly why they

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<v Speaker 3>were all there. Harrison Ford was there, and we.

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<v Speaker 4>Saw some of them, like the tables. Yeah, we saw

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<v Speaker 4>Taylor at the bar.

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<v Speaker 6>We did see him at the bar. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 6>what he looked like, but you guys said that that

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<v Speaker 6>was Taylor.

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<v Speaker 4>I never saw him.

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<v Speaker 6>You were there with me and you Oh, okay, you

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<v Speaker 6>act like I do stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just in my room.

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<v Speaker 6>I think we were found a bar to watch UFC

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<v Speaker 6>or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's when I got bumped.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, I do remember that. Yeah I didn't. I guess

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know the whole root of that story.

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<v Speaker 3>I never told I never told it because it was

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<v Speaker 3>the Wind was so cool about it, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna respect this. And they didn't really have a choice.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was big people and big friends. Sure, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's it. Thank you guys, uh ringo, you're awesome. Check

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<v Speaker 3>out the video if you want to watch the interview,

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<v Speaker 3>it's pretty crazy. It's on YouTube. Just go over to

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<v Speaker 3>the Bobby Bones channel. Is the YouTube page.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, thank you guys, and we'll see you next week.

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<v Speaker 5>He's in love.

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<v Speaker 4>He's in love.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production