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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is in secret contract negotiations

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Speaker 1: with m VP. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens and

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by room filled with heroes, Mark Seessler, Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling and Greg Roseatal. What's up boys? Yeah, Thursday show

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Speaker 1: my show of the quote unquote quiet period for the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. It's time to crank starting Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: Mark get ready. The quiet period could not be any

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Speaker 1: less or any more over than it is right now.

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Speaker 1: The lasts have been Matt utterly mad um. Let's focus

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Speaker 1: on what really counts though. Tonight in Culver City, California,

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Speaker 1: prime time, it is the playoffs semifinals and if we

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Speaker 1: advanced the championship game for our softball league and our team,

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Speaker 1: the yield and uh, it's been, as we talked about

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Speaker 1: last week on the show, an extremely trying season for me,

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Speaker 1: Skipper and a very um exciting season for the rook

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Speaker 1: I call him Pepper Spray Greg who's given us enthusiast

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Speaker 1: a trying season on an even more serious level. For

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling playing through the Big Sea, Are you kidding me? Well?

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Speaker 1: You did it? You had that little season. I thought

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Speaker 1: through that, um, but I thought, you know, with the

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Speaker 1: big games tonight, if we advanced, were a double header

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Speaker 1: and then we defend the title, hopefully open it up

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Speaker 1: to questions, real quick presser. We'll start with you, Mark ahead, Well,

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Speaker 1: if you do win this first playoff game and you

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Speaker 1: me at the days. Wow, I'm taking questions now. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a team that likes pressure, that's gonna step

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Speaker 1: the balls get bigger. Anybody else questions questions? The second question,

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Speaker 1: there's no other journalists in the room and aren't on

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Speaker 1: the team. I I would ask you this, Dan, if

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Speaker 1: this goes well, or if it goes particularly poorly, is

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Speaker 1: this the end of your run as manager? It's very possible.

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Speaker 1: the door. If we win and we have two titles

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Speaker 1: I have to prove? Uh? So there's a lot I

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Speaker 1: thought West very uh he put it very well last week,

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Speaker 1: where there's a an uneasy mix of people that they

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Speaker 1: something of a rift um culminating with I don't know

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Speaker 1: not pleasant. We worked it out after the game, but

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Speaker 1: we worked through it. But it's been a tough year.

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Speaker 1: Got time for one more, one more. I've got a statement,

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Speaker 1: not a question statement. Chris Weslie also at the days,

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Speaker 1: I'm changing something up. I am coaching the basis tonight.

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Speaker 1: We won the tournament last year with base running. We

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Speaker 1: how much further the right fielder is from third base?

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Speaker 1: In the left fielder. If the ball is at the

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Speaker 1: base easily. We've we've got a lot going for us.

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Speaker 1: Chris Wesley. Absolutely, I have went as an outsider, as

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Speaker 1: Are gonna win the first one for sure, and I

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Speaker 1: So I fully expect us to advance out of the

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Speaker 1: able to build chemistry back to back years. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: so we have two guys like that in the locker

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Speaker 1: room that I know can be franchise quarterbacks. It's a

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Speaker 1: great feeling. Wow, West, he is certain that Tom Savage

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Speaker 1: could be a franchise quarterback or is that just lip service?

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00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, Eddie Murphy and rawl when he talks

429
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Speaker 1: about being in jail and he gets out and eats crackers,

430
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Speaker 1: and it's like the best crackers he's ever had. It's

431
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Speaker 1: like it's like eating a filet mignon because you've been

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Speaker 1: in jail. He had Broad cost Water last year. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Tom Sam we're calling Tom Savage of cracker. No,

434
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Speaker 1: I'm calling broad Costs Wiler. Let's tone down the race stuff.

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Speaker 1: West Well and Greg, Greg made the Greg connected those dots.

436
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: I thought we was being open about it and Greg

437
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: was just is the one who connected the dots. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've misread the situation, then Greg, stop being racist. That's

439
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: the first time today anyone's accused me of that. Hey,

440
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: the Bills traded card l Jones. Sorry Rex Ryan, that

441
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: didn't work out to the uh Los Angeles Chargers. In

442
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Speaker 1: exchange for a conditional draft pick. Buffalo announced it on Wednesday. UM,

443
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say Rex. I just say Doug Walley was

444
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 1: a big CARDL. Jones fan, Chris Westling. And now Doug's gone,

445
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: Rex is gone, and now Jones he's gone too. Well,

446
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: he's going to play for his biggest fan in the NFL.

447
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn, who was in Buffalo last year and raved

448
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Speaker 1: about Cardal Jones, said this is the kind of guy

449
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: you want waiting in the on the runway behind your starter.

450
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Speaker 1: So Anthony Lynn obviously believes Cardale Jones is the think

451
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Speaker 1: the plane is taking off without him, which I think

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Speaker 1: probably might not be the terrible thing as well. Down

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Speaker 1: point he's gonna rev him up. Well, it's clear disrespect

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Speaker 1: for our boy. Mike BERKOVICI has an extensive tape study

455
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Speaker 1: on and thinks highly of. I don't appreciate what's happening

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Speaker 1: here at all. What's wrong with this jukebox? That uh

457
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: that people love trades though and and Ohio State former

458
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks because that you know, there was probably a lot

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Speaker 1: of work being put into all the features and various

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Speaker 1: things on our redesigned website yesterday, By far, the most

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Speaker 1: popular story on NFL dot com. Bill's trade Cardel Jones

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00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: trades written by West moves the needle, and trades move

463
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Speaker 1: the needle, and when these things combined hot comba it

464
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Speaker 1: is explosive bad news for RG three. I would think,

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Speaker 1: who got to work out with the Chargers and then

466
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Speaker 1: they traded for Cardil Jones? So so he's gotta hope

467
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Speaker 1: for something. Why do you? Why are you sorry to me?

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Speaker 1: I'm leg it's like eighty former Brown's quarterbacks floating through

469
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Speaker 1: the league. I mean he's RG three needs to hope

470
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Speaker 1: for a litany of injuries to occur under center, and

471
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: also for a career epiphany. Uh. Finally, in this portion

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Speaker 1: of the news, Julio Jones is one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: um poorer. I feel like that's not accurate because he's

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Speaker 1: still rich, but he's got he's missing goods. Put it

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Speaker 1: that way. He takes a jet ski out in Lake

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Speaker 1: Laniar in Georgia. You're familiar with lakely year West or

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Speaker 1: somethinghere a tybee off the coast of Georgia there anyways,

478
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Speaker 1: zipping around his jet ski. Hey, people are sleeping on

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Speaker 1: jet skis. You want to feel free you get out

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Speaker 1: on a lake and you just you go on that

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Speaker 1: jet ski. You don't be you know, you don't be

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Speaker 1: a jerk about it. You don't getting people's lanes and

483
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: do like Playboy moves when you're wearing your oakleys and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You just get out into that open water. Jet Skis

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Speaker 1: are the Donald Trump of watercraft. When this is the

486
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Speaker 1: last time you've done you did this stand. Uh. My

487
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: father in law used to have one before he sold it,

488
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Speaker 1: and it was the only time I truly felt free.

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Speaker 1: Was interesting. A little floating around. You want to feel free,

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Speaker 1: tie a huge rope around yourself or whatever is happening

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Speaker 1: on jet skis. Are you aware of what I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: You're holding You're not free. While you hold onto, you're

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Speaker 1: holding on, you're not tied. It would never be a

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Speaker 1: good idea on a moving motor boat to tie rope

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Speaker 1: around your body. I thought you were talking about what

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Speaker 1: you think it was like a tube that was tied.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm thinking, you know you can let go

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Speaker 1: when you want. That's freedom in essence. You can let

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Speaker 1: go whenever you feel the need. Anyway, I'm pounding the

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Speaker 1: tail for jet skis. Get off my back whatever. Anyway,

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00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: that's nice. They're nice machines. But Julio Jones, he got

502
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: he went into a boat wake, major mistake. Gotta be careful. Um,

503
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: also want to decrease your acceleration when coming under an

504
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Speaker 1: overpass situation with the bridge. There's a lot of different

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Speaker 1: rules and do not ingest alcohol. The boat police are

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Speaker 1: all over the place. Anybody that has jet ski questions

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Speaker 1: come to me. Moving forward, Julio Jones, anybody have jet

508
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Speaker 1: ski questions? I think you've solved our curiosity. He gets

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Speaker 1: knocked off the vessel popped up. Uh, he was okay,

510
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: thank thankfully, but his one thousand dollar earring floated to

511
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Speaker 1: the or sunk to the bottom of this lake. He

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Speaker 1: hired two divers to search for it. No luck so far.

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Speaker 1: And um, that's a tough way to lose a very

514
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Speaker 1: expensive piece of jewelry. Anybody ever lose anything like super

515
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: valuable in a stupid way? Trying to think I lost

516
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Speaker 1: my car for two days, but that was that wasn't

517
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Speaker 1: I don't understand buying a hundred thousand dollar piece of

518
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars maybe thousand dollars per a shiny object. You

519
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: better trust those divers too, because you're paying those divers

520
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: and it's just very good point and the divers are

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00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: coming up. Didn't find it today then, while they show

522
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: up in like a Rolls Royce for day for the search,

523
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: like just like lobster dinners coming out of their car window. Uh,

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00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: we got some more news to get to, but we

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00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: gotta speed up. So it's time for a little bit

526
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: of eight o'clock the light. Levan Bell did not show

527
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: up for the open ing of Pittsburgh Steelers training camp.

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00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: It's playing under that franchise Texas. This a problem. Greg

529
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: not at all be there when it matters all right.

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00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: Davante Booker is heading to the pup for the Denver Broncos. Uh.

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00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: He has a risk injury suffered back in minicamp. Do

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00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: you like book or West? I didn't like what I

533
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: saw him last year. He was very underwhelming and C. J. Anderson,

534
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: in my opinion, was locked in as the starter. Everson

535
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: Griffin getting paid once again. The defensive end signed a

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00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: four year, fifty eight million dollar extension. It includes thirty

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00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: four million and guarantees. According to rap sheet, Uh, this

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00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: means about bike for life, Griffin said. Greg got paid again. Yeah,

539
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: it's a rare player that gets to monster contract extensions

540
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: from the same team in the same career. Says a

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00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: lot about how they view them. The Jets claimed Lucky

542
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: white Head off waivers after the Cowboys released him under

543
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: controversial circumstances. Mark, did you like all of the different

544
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: plays on words about the Jets finally getting lucky on Twitter?

545
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: It's an awful week on Twitter to begin with, and

546
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: that might have been the height of the ugliness. John Ross,

547
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver that they're expecting a lot

548
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: from this year, remains sidelined as they open training camp

549
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: with and it's still quote a couple of weeks away.

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00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound good. Mark, I'm not worried about it yet.

551
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: Should I be as a Browns fan or as a

552
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: Browns fan especially? But now I think he you know,

553
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: this is different than Levian Bell. He doesn't know the offense.

554
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: He's literally never practiced and yeah, he's never practiced with

555
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Want to rethink this, Mark, how nervous? I

556
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: personally am not worried about it. Should the Bengals be?

557
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: I think they should be? You asked my concerned level.

558
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: It's low Okay, just in general. When I asked those

559
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: type of questions, project the thoughts of the team, Okay,

560
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: the fans, the team management, all that, the coaching staff. Anyway,

561
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: who has the number one hottest selling jersey and football?

562
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: There's no way you're gonna guess unless you're reading the

563
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: end around. James Conner, the third round pick running back

564
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: out of the University of Pittsburgh, is now top. Tom

565
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: Brady is Westling and and and West. Big reason why

566
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: the man overcame beat cancer, returned to the football field,

567
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: and then it got drafted by his hometown team. How

568
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: about you getting drafted by the Bengals after your surgery

569
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: like that? No? Thanks, I don't know. I think that's

570
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: a heartwarming story though, because in a time where this

571
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: country can't seem to agree on anything and has been

572
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: pretty their bitriol has been flying. The support for people

573
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: battling cancer. I mean, it's almost universal, and it shows

574
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: that we can come together and support someone who needs it.

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00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: Nice Macro viewpoint West. Finally, Philip rivers to commute from

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00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: San Diego this season. Uh that could be an hour

577
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: and a half commute each way. Finish it off, Mark

578
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: Quick Quick Quick Think it's awful. It's terrible. If I

579
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: had to do that every day as a quarterback, I'd

580
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: go nuts. But he's in some sort of quarterback car

581
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: where you have, like he's able to study film with

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00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: a driver drive him. Still, it's it's an hour and

583
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Speaker 1: a half. He lives in Rancho Santa Fe. It's it's troubling. Well,

584
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: you have to move your whole family. They're not in

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Speaker 1: l A. They're in Coasta Mesa, which is Orange County.

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00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: So so he's not going all the way up to

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Speaker 1: l A. You can watch some film on the way

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00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: to work. That makes sense. He's been sheltered in San Diego.

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00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Wait until he has to deal with l A l

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00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: A freeway trip. Yeah, absolutely, You know what else? What

591
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: happens he's admitting this is a trial balloon. Yeah, what

592
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: happens when he cannot take it and the traffic's brutal

593
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: and he doesn't like his mobile car device with all

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Speaker 1: the televisions, he can't get a good internet connection, you

595
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: can't get any work done, and he still doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to move the kids from San Diego. Then what Mark,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you it is an absolute disaster on the

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Speaker 1: family front. To the charge and five by the time

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00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: this trial balloon sinks into the end of the ground.

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Speaker 1: It's easy for you to say, try to move a

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Speaker 1: family with eight kids. Well, if you know I have

602
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: eight children, you've gotta you gotta put that. We're just

603
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: vamping to time the end of the song. If anyone

604
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: has noticed, yeah, like it's hard commuting in southern California.

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Speaker 1: He's a multi millionaire and the team will moving for him.

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00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: That's absolutely Hey, that's true. The team will work with him. Well,

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Speaker 1: your favorite team. Okay, Now, can I say one thing

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Speaker 1: there when we're when we it's using the mend song

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Speaker 1: for this. I'd love all these sponsors, but it's like

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Speaker 1: you had a girlfriend, you had a song with her,

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Speaker 1: and then you get a new girlfriend. You're trying to

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Speaker 1: recreate the same thing that was the mend song. I

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Speaker 1: have a new outlook on the sponsors. We love our sponsors,

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Speaker 1: but don't get too close. Just I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think it is that the same outlook you have for producers. No,

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00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: there's there's a producer that I definitely want and I

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Speaker 1: and if we can procure this person, you know, we'd

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Speaker 1: be very happy. Is she in this room? Not in

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Speaker 1: this room? No? Is she behind the glass? I will

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Speaker 1: say nothing else, but very talented, A lot of talented

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Speaker 1: people in this building. Vicious code will take place all

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Speaker 1: right now, Hey doing by the way, I emma unrelated. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing really well. Things are a good show so far.

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Speaker 1: Is it fun? Is it kind of loose in terms

633
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: of how it's like, Oh, it's almost like hanging out

634
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: with your your friends, just to my pals, you know,

635
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: with the guys. It's almost not work in a way.

636
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: Very rewarding also on all on all fronts. Yeah, make

637
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: some good points. Good points. Do you notice when I

638
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: said it doesn't feel like work when it's fun? Yeah? Yeah,

639
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: you're right. I think I was picking up on the

640
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: same thing. Do you notice And when I sent out

641
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: the budget for today's show, really nice headshot of you

642
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: that I dug up on Google just show my appreciation

643
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: that you're working with us today. I appreciate that slightly

644
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: embarrassing headshot, but I think you look nice. Did you

645
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: get my fruit basket? No? No, I'm still winning on

646
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: that hot but talk Yep, it's never too soon to

647
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: talk about hot, but especially in the NFL. Uh where

648
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: I asked, just asked. Jeff Fisher, who's you know? Began

649
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: the two thousand sixteen season coaching the Los Angeles Football franchise,

650
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: and he ended it holding a puppy and a woman

651
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: he picked up at the supermarket just to be his friend,

652
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: a mom of some kind, waving waving at the team

653
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: buses it rolled away to Seattle for another slaughterfest. I

654
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: want the video of like, you know, alec Ogletree or

655
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: what some of the players been like, Wait a second,

656
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: is that Jeff? What is he doing there? I want

657
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: cameras and that that about the guys that weren't paying

658
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: attention in the meeting and had no idea. Jeff Fisher

659
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: was fired and then they see him waving. Probably a

660
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: bit of a trip anyway, hotbuts all right. We're gonna

661
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: go around the room a couple of times and um

662
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 1: uh talk about coaches, gms, what have you that could

663
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: find themselves in legitimate danger of losing their jobs. This

664
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: is Greg jokes around about like he doesn't like the

665
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: sound of a burning butt. He jokes about that. But

666
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: the other thing Greg doesn't like. He gets uncomfortable when

667
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: he ever, whenever feels like we might be talking about

668
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: these people losing jobs in a way that's too flippant.

669
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: Greg is very respectful. He's moving his way up the ladder,

670
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: and once you go to the TV side, you become

671
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: a lot more kind of straight laced with that stuff.

672
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: And that's where that's why Greg is kind of caught

673
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: in this in between man without a country place, right,

674
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: And that's not true at all. Do you weren't we

675
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: just talking last episode about how sort of like a

676
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: humanized the person, like you know, Rob Boris or whatever,

677
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: that you realize, like, you know, these are people the issues.

678
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: It's not so much I'm uncomfortable. It's also you know,

679
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: right before training camp starts that we're talking hotbuts it's

680
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: like the season hasn't even started and we're trying to

681
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: find how many coaches were fired last year. It's been

682
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: an average of six a year, I believe lately. But

683
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: even in season, there's always a couple at least. I

684
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: feel like usually we're gonna talk about we're not saying

685
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: all these coaches we expect them to be fired, but

686
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: there is a decent chance, uh you know, one to

687
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: three of these names actually will get banged in the end. No, no,

688
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: you go anywhere you want. Was I'm going to Mark's corner?

689
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: Oh you're flying Mark? You okay with him going to

690
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: your corner? Absolutely? All right, Let's start with Mark though

691
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: on that day I don't even know what I thought.

692
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: He had the fantasy corner, and this is a different corner.

693
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: He is coordinator corner. This is Mark's catty corner, health food.

694
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to find out what corner this is.

695
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's harry up and get to West. We'll

696
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: start with Mark, though, I'll go real quick then. Uh no,

697
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 1: but I look at Chicago because I think with John

698
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Fox and Ryan Pace, you can act all you on

699
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: about how you know. John Fox says he loves what

700
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: he has with his team right now. I think that

701
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: this year, you see what you get out of the Bears,

702
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: but you know it, Miss Rabiski is going to be

703
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: your starter next year. Then you have to rethink entirely

704
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: how this team runs itself. And John Fox is not

705
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: the guy I want to groom a rookie quarterback or

706
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: anyone on his staff. Frankly, I honestly think that the

707
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: Bears could finish about three and thirteen or four and

708
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: twelve this year. I don't think that Pace and John

709
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: Fox are necessarily best buds on any level either. After

710
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: what happened with the draft and just whispers coming out

711
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: of the draft that there's unrest on that team, and

712
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: John Fox is not going to be the best candidate

713
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: out there. A few really great other options come up

714
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: at this point. So I think Chicago is going to

715
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: have a major reshuffling by the end of the season.

716
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: I did not wish that to happen to John Fox.

717
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: Not flippant at all. He left himself without any excuses

718
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: whatsoever when he said how strong he believes his roster is.

719
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: That means he believes Ryan Pace did his job the

720
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: whole John Fox thing is like, I'm gonna take your

721
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: lack of talent and we're gonna play hard and we're

722
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna overachieve, even if we're not the greatest team in

723
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: the world. So if he doesn't deliver that, I think

724
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: you're right. I think if we were in you know,

725
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: a city in the desert where your consigliari friend Uh westwork,

726
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: Mr Rack, I would guess. I don't know if they

727
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: have wait, I don't know if they have things like this,

728
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: but I would say John Fox has got to be

729
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: the most likely guy to not have his job next year.

730
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: He would be on the top of the list market

731
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: at home run. Good choice, hey Mark, where to get gone? Baby?

732
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: Maybe not a daring choice, but the one that if

733
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to get on base, Yeah, and you and

734
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: you did more than that. You went all the way

735
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: around the basis, just like Greg the bottom of the

736
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: seventh tonight, I want that wants We're going to coordinator

737
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: Caddy Corner. I knew it. I knew his coordinator. This

738
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: guy just entered the league and he's already on the

739
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: hot seat. Steve Sarkisian, the Falcons offensive coordinator, seek could

740
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: not be any hotter. They are loaded with talent, but

741
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan maximized that talent. Nobody gets receivers more open,

742
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: more consistently than Kyle Shanahan. We saw that last year.

743
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: Can Steve Sarkisian draw up plays? Can he dial in

744
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: the offense? Does he know the right combination? Can he

745
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: work with Matt Ryan? Can he work with receivers? Can

746
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: he used the same zone running scheme to the same

747
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: effect as Kyle Shanahan. I think he's under the microscope

748
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: as much as anyone this year. It's a great call.

749
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean, can he be a good pro coach? I

750
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: think if he was a head coach, everyone would say

751
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't have any pro experience at all, and

752
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: that would be a legitimate claim. And yet he You know,

753
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: it's just as important for a coordinator, especially under a

754
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: defensive coach where he's basically running that side. And there

755
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: are coordinators offensive coordinators that are great at game planning

756
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: the week going into the game, and then there are

757
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: in game masters like Shanahan, and to have suddenly switched

758
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: to someone with no play calling experience and tough situations,

759
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a tough call to take over

760
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: the best offense. I honestly wonder if there's a scenario

761
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: by the end of the year where people saying Atlanta's

762
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: defense has gotten them farther this year than their offensive.

763
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: Things don't go right and making the leaps Atlanta Falcon,

764
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: That's that's true. But and you know what, like Mark,

765
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: you were kind of hitting on it there, and it

766
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: goes all walks of life. You never want to replace

767
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: the guy. You want to replace the guy who replaced

768
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: the guy. So if something goes wrong with the Falcons

769
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: this year and there is that Super Bowl hangover and

770
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: the defense doesn't make the leap, and the offense comes

771
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: down to earth and they go eight and eight in

772
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: their new building, and everyone's bitterly disappointed, and they are

773
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: not gonna fire the head coach. They liked the head

774
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: coach a lot. Uh I could see the O coordinator going,

775
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: especially if he rubbed some people the wrong way, which

776
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: it seems like he does. Then he get like, I

777
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: don't know anything my college football. I tend to watch

778
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: the Final four. But did he get like benched in

779
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: the championship game calling plays? Did he take and thought

780
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin took over something? Yeah? He he Essentially I

781
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: don't know it was confusing whether he lost the job

782
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: or whether he was already his loyalties were divided, so

783
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: they just decided to move on or they were annoyed

784
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: how he handled moving on to to Atlanta. So yes,

785
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: he did get benched something. Yeah, it's something bad happened anyway.

786
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a good one too for two.

787
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: Moving on, Uh, Greg, I hope I'm not stepping on

788
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: your toes here because I know you like to cover

789
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: this beat considering your college roots. But I want to

790
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: talk about Sean Payton, okay um and Greg Mark. I

791
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: know the Loomis and the structure of the Saints are

792
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: on your radar, and as they should be. Their their

793
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: loyalties seemed to be divided between the Pelicans. Did they

794
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: do something recently? Joined press conference were about the Saints

795
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: and the Pelicans. Saints Pelicans press conference. They're trying to

796
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: save money on refreshments and you know cookies that you

797
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: provide at the press conference. Let's just do Pelicans and

798
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: Saints together. I don't know if they're gonna want to

799
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowl until they got a cooperation where they run. Yeah,

800
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna see Drew Brees playing point guard in uh

801
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: in January this year. But I think I think at

802
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: a certain point it's just time, right And Peyton has

803
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: been there since two thousand and six. That is a

804
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: long ass time in the NFL to be anywhere, and

805
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: you win a Super Bowl, um, and that gives you

806
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: a lot of rope. But that Super Bowl is two

807
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: thousand nine and is now two thousand and seventeen, and

808
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: we we have a lot of fun with Jeff Jeff Fisher.

809
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: But guess who's going gone seven and nine the last

810
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: three years and four out of the last five. It's

811
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. So if they do that again and regress further,

812
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: you get the feeling it could be a situation where

813
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: both sides want to fresh start because you're just you're

814
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: spinning your wheels, and ownership has to be getting very

815
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: anxious at this point. Sean Payton knows his quarterback is

816
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: not getting any younger and he's not getting any closer,

817
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: and maybe he thinks there's a better job with a

818
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: brighter future ahead. I think another bad year by the Saints,

819
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: especially one that goes off the rails a little bit

820
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: in the first half or something like that, and we

821
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: could see a change maybe not in season and something

822
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: we could see a change. Bat's respectful. Yeah, that's not

823
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: respectful Sean Payton. I think that all makes sense in

824
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: most situations, But then I think of who's the owner,

825
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: what's the team? He's signed through UH making more than

826
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: I think eight million dollars a year. He famously brought

827
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: that contract in a briefcase to the senior Bolae well

828
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: to that it was the owner's meeting. He was prancing

829
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: around with this with this like leather case and finally

830
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: announced this unsigned contract. Right, So, I I think it's

831
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: been I think Sean Payton has been a great coach

832
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: for them and great for that city, but I think

833
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: it's been really underhanded how he's been looking for other

834
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: jobs at the end of each of the last two seasons,

835
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: and and he throws reporters under the bus, but we

836
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: know what he's doing. There's these reports out there he's

837
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: sniffing around. At this point, I don't think he can

838
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: get another UH team to be paying him that much money,

839
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: so it starts getting confused, like I don't think another

840
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: team's gonna trade for it. It's just this weird stare

841
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: down where I just think they're stuck again. I think

842
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: if you're the Saints, you have to have a candidate

843
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: out there that you believe is instantly better than Sean Payton,

844
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: which is not what he's good at. The Saints are

845
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: good at. Well, it's interesting to do because Drew Brees

846
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: contract is up to and and maybe Sean Payton and

847
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: Drew Brees are just a package deal at this point.

848
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Whereas if if Drew Brees moves on, maybe that's the

849
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: end of Sean Payton there. I don't know. I don't

850
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: want to step on anybody's toes. Uh if you have

851
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: a banger for this, but a lot of it has

852
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: been many years where Payton has been connected to the Cowboys.

853
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a possibility a job opening could

854
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: happen there. If the Cowboys really disappointed this year and

855
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: Garrett going to New Orleans, you can see them flipping potentially,

856
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: all right, talk about the Indianapolis cults. Whenever new GM

857
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: comes in, that makes a lot of changes. Jen really

858
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: the head coach getting losing his job is not too

859
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: far behind. I think Chuck Bogano is in a really

860
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: tough spot here. Uh. Chris Ballard, of course got this

861
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: job after they had already decided to keep Pagano. I

862
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: think they obviously want to make it work. But he's

863
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: a defensive coach who has never had a particularly good defense,

864
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: and they could have eight or nine or even ten

865
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: new starters on defense. And if that the defense doesn't

866
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: get better in a hurry, I think to Mercy and

867
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: Ballard could look for a guy that they could choose

868
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: together a new in Ursay, over and over this offseason

869
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: is verbally praised Ballard. He really feels like he hit

870
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: a home room with his GM pick. So if if

871
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: the if there isn't every sort of an issue where

872
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: the cults feel like Andrew Luck's career is washing away

873
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: before our eyes, we need to get someone in here

874
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: that can maximize this offense that I think he's in hotgain.

875
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: Pogano would be in big hot water. He's been given

876
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: a long enough leash. What's your favorite type of frog?

877
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: That's what of Chris Ballard's you know, favorite questions to ask? Yeah,

878
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: people keep on I see on the subreddit like what

879
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: is that all about? I don't know, maybe just how

880
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: to be there? I can't tell you some of these things.

881
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: There's no hard and fest answer. Maybe Greg has it,

882
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: but I I don't. No, I think you said it was.

883
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you both reached the same conclusion, though,

884
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: but you can't put your finger on what it is exactly.

885
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: I still remember it. We were we watched at the Combine,

886
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: we watched Ballard's first press conference, and we made the walk,

887
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: the cold walk in Indianapolis called Rainy Walk that day

888
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: from the little interview center back to like our our stations,

889
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: and we both just walking on that Indie Street and

890
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: be like, what's going on there? Anyway? I want to

891
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: move on? I think we should alright, one more round.

892
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: Let's go mark similar situation in Detroit where I think

893
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: if you're Jim Calledwell and you're paired with Bob Quinn,

894
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: who's you know, really respected inside that building, general manager,

895
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: who probably wants at some point to have his pick

896
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: of head coach if the Lions crashed and burn, which

897
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't think is beyond the realm of imagination that they,

898
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, go six and ten or something that's got

899
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: two more wins and you predicted. I think that's that's

900
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: my ceiling for them. Jim called Well, I mean Jim

901
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: called Well is is someone that I think I'm surprised

902
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: that he was given a chance to come back as

903
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: coach last season, and so I just I don't know

904
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: if this, if this is gonna continue on unless they

905
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: really overachieve, and that really overachieving and Jim called Well

906
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: or not two things that I often pair together in

907
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: my mind. Don't you think he overachieved last year? I

908
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: felt like he did. He made the playoffs with smoking mirrors.

909
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: I just don't think that. I think if you're Bob

910
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: Quinn and you're really looking at what your team was,

911
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: it's not on Jim called Well, but your team has

912
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: a long way to go. And is Jim called Well

913
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: the guy you want to sign up to go through

914
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: this journey with nothing exciting about Jim Caldwell. I think

915
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: it's a good choice. Mark both your choices. It's kind

916
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: of like choked up on the bat a little bit

917
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: and just slapped singles, maybe beat it out for double.

918
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: Very safe, but all just trying to be productive today.

919
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: Very good both of them, I will say this, And

920
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: and I I should have had the lines higher up

921
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: in the pain rankings. I understand that now one playoff

922
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: win since nineteen eight, Now did they win a playoff

923
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: game and called Dwells three years. No, but they've been

924
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: to the playoffs twice and I know they backed in

925
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: last year, but they went eleven and five minutes first

926
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: year and should have beat the Cowboys. They got robbed

927
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: in that game, so he could have been uh in

928
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: the divisional playoffs. Should I will just say, I just

929
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 1: think I think for me, it's the it's the hand

930
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: pick GM to come in and wanting wanting his own

931
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: coach to pair with. Maybe that would be Matt Patricia.

932
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: Maybe that would be someone from his past that he

933
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: really wants to, you know, build a legacy with. Doesn't

934
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: it feel like though Caldwell, everyone in the instant the

935
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: hire was made, hated it, and on some level he's

936
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: overperformed to this point. Has the coach of the Lions

937
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: in this scenario, though they have a disastrous season, Okay,

938
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: four to six ones, I got it, I'm with you,

939
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: they go nine and seven. I don't think this comes

940
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: true wes Well. I wanted to go quarterback, and a

941
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: couple of veterans immediately jumped to mind. Alex Smith and

942
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Eli Manning are on the hot seat, but I think

943
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: the hottest seat among all quarterbacks belongs to Blake Portles,

944
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: and Doug Moron said the other day, we are raising

945
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: expectations for these for this guy, which you know, if

946
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: that's the case, why didn't you bring in someone to

947
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: compete with him? If if you're raising expectations, But I

948
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: know that Titans are now the default pick in that division.

949
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: The Jaguars and Texans have playoff rosters with the with

950
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: the exception of the quarterback. I think the Jaguars Jaguars

951
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: lost roster is now pretty loaded. And if Leonard four

952
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: Nette is what we think he is, this team can

953
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: go pretty far if Blake Bortles is an average quarterback.

954
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: But if he's not even average, if he if he

955
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: can't fix his mechanics, I mean, basically, they'll have to

956
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: write him off like they wrote off Blaine Gabbert. How

957
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: about the I think that's definitely fair about the Jaguars

958
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: in general, from the quarterback to the current coach, to

959
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: the GM potential total sweep out if and it's all

960
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of on board as approving in a lot of

961
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: ways Undercauughlin, though you're saying he would write that Coughlin

962
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: is essentially, you know, cooking the flames here. For an

963
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: entire organization that's been given a long rope with a

964
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: total lack of success. I mean they no team has

965
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: lost more games over the last five years except for

966
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: the Browns. Is that true? That's true? Why is that shocking?

967
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean it seems like that would be the team

968
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: that would have lost more games. Don't they go four

969
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: and twelve every year? Right? That's the thing they have. No,

970
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: they have no six win They have not had a

971
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: six win season. I don't believe since like Jack the

972
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: second to last Jack del Rio year, and that's a

973
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: horrible seas off of the NFL. It's rigged so the

974
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: bad teams can get better everything. I mean, six wins

975
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: should not be that that high a bar. Um. Yeah,

976
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm right. Uh. They're eight and eight in two thousand

977
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: and ten under del Rio. Uh and they since then

978
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: they've won five to four three five three. That's hideous. Well,

979
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: the last the last head coach when he got fired,

980
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: uh Gus Bradley. There was that famous stat that Bill

981
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: Belichick would have to lose like a hundred straight games

982
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: to equal his losing percentage. Uh, brad more than that,

983
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: whatever it was. Um, I will go with a team

984
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: that a lot. Some people will say in the AC

985
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: sal this is an ugly page. I don't want to

986
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: interrupt it, but there were two straight seasons where they're

987
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: leading passer was Chad Henny and their leading receiver was

988
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: Cecil Shorts. And that's just that's bad. Sorry, save for

989
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: the Jaguars Suck podcast. Um, I'll stay in the a

990
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: f C sal talk about Bill O'Brien, uh, who a

991
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: lot of people, and I think it's fair to say

992
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: he's had his issues managing the quarterback room. Uh, but

993
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of a chicken salad chicken chicken what is it?

994
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: Chicken s? Theyking chicken salad out of chicken s. He's

995
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: not been put in a position to have a quarterback

996
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: to believe in at this point. Maybe he does this year,

997
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: but it's still a rookie quarterback. And I will point

998
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: to maybe we forget now, uh or the football GAGNACENTI

999
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: has forgotten. But there was speculation that Bill O'Brien was

1000
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: leaving Houston last season because of some internal squabbles. What

1001
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: happens this year? If Tom Savage, I'm sorry, DeAndre Hopkins

1002
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: isn't a franchise type quarterback. In fact, if Tom Savage stinks,

1003
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: which I think everybody thinks could happen potentially, And if

1004
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson simply isn't ready, and then you have ownership,

1005
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: uh that is not prepared to wait, the ownership that

1006
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: still thinks it's a team that's one heartbeat away without

1007
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: means someone died. Ownership that thinks that they are just

1008
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: one wave of success, something turning their way from being

1009
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: able to go toe to toe with the with the Patriots.

1010
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: I believe there is an issue going on between the

1011
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: coach in the front office there and if this sees

1012
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: if this team underperforms, I think O'Brien he's kind of

1013
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: a volatle guy. I gained respect from him watching Hard Knocks,

1014
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: but I think he's a guy that probably rubbed some

1015
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: people the wrong way and could see him getting into

1016
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: some spirited arguments in a big spot. I think O'Brien

1017
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: could be in deep trouble if this team underperforms, which

1018
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: I think is very possible. White thing I'd say is

1019
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: he's won seven regular season games in three years with

1020
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallett, and Brock Osweiler. Now

1021
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: he also famously called some of those quarterbacks completely competent

1022
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: and ready to be their starters, and they shouldn't be disrespected.

1023
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 1: But I think, well, the overall product under O'Brien has

1024
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: been so I think he's been great, But there there

1025
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: were multiple reports at the end of last season that

1026
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: he would either quit or get fired that I think,

1027
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: Why is the GM so bulletproof in Houston? I think

1028
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: it was about and I remember that report. It was

1029
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: from me and Rappaport who really started it, our NFL

1030
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: Network insider who said, coach coaching, coach, needy, teams are

1031
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: waiting to see what happens with Bill O'Brien, And it

1032
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: sure felt like it was Bill O'Brien that was maybe

1033
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: thinking about trying to push his way out. So yeah,

1034
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: something's weird there. One more interesting thing about this situation

1035
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: is they finished twenty nine in Football Outsiders metrics last year.

1036
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: They were one of the worst teams in the league

1037
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: according to statistical analysis, and that same analysis predicts them

1038
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: to fall off in a major way this year because

1039
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: they were so lucky in close games. And yet people

1040
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: like Ian Rappaport other NFL insiders when they talked to

1041
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: their coaches, when they talk to their players. They believe

1042
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: this is the most stacked team Bill O'Brien's head. They

1043
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: think they are loaded this year. They think their playoff

1044
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: bound and and a Super Bowl contender. So defense looks

1045
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: great on paper. Yeah, the expectations are really high among

1046
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: that coaching, which can work against you if if you know,

1047
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: match's actually J. J. Watt being fully healthy, Clowney coming

1048
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: into his own and if if Watson can play a

1049
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: little bit, Yeah, that they can win eleven games. But

1050
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: it could also go give us give us one season

1051
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: football gods. I'm usually not too huge on the Texas,

1052
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: but give us one season where we get healthy prime J. J.

1053
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: Watt and healthy prime Clowney next to each other for

1054
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: one season. We're running out of time. Let's do it.

1055
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady shivering in the corner just thinking about it. Oh,

1056
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: I would love that, sobbing Tom Brady and his like

1057
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: he's got his sleep pajamas. I don't think that this

1058
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: scenario is happening at all. He just turned into Brock

1059
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: Hospeiler after and incompletion, Um, okay, that would be Tom Brady.

1060
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: If Clowney and walking on the same page of dominance,

1061
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: take us home, Greg I was looking for a surprise team.

1062
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: How about the nation's capital, the Washington Redskins. When things

1063
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: blow up there, they tend to blow up fast. And

1064
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: I don't think Jay Gruden should be on any sort

1065
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: of hot seat. But this is a team I could

1066
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: see go in sideways if things don't go right, and

1067
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: that I could see ownership making a rash move. I

1068
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: could see drama during the season, which puts various pressures

1069
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: on different facts into the team. I don't like the

1070
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: smell of it. Cousins and everything else. We've just seen

1071
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: this over the last twenty years. So that's I'm basing

1072
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: it more on that history than Jay Gruden, because I

1073
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: think Jake Gruden is doing a great job. Anyone, it's

1074
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: Bruce Allen on the hot seat. No, I feel like

1075
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 1: Bruce Allen is the one. He's the one putting people

1076
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: on the hot seat. He seems to have the year

1077
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: of ownership. He seems to be running things. How's that working?

1078
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: Will any return to power? Right? I I think that

1079
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: that probably doesn't bode well great for the head coach.

1080
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got out of here without

1081
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: talking the Jets, but I think that yeah, I thought

1082
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: too obvious. I thought about the Jets. I just figured, well,

1083
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: we've talked, we talked about them a lot, don't Yeah,

1084
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: if they will be everyone will be swept out if

1085
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: they go. Yeah, Well, isn't that the plan though? In

1086
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: according to some? I mean, although maybe that's why they're

1087
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: not even you know, they're just the Jets right now?

1088
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: What like west is saying? Yeah, Like why you know,

1089
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: they're basically almost a relegated team right now. So I

1090
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: don't want to have to bring them up all the time.

1091
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: It's just their depressing team to talk about. I couldn't

1092
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: agree more, Westie. You asked if Bruce Allen would be

1093
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: on the hot team. That did remind me Bruce Allen

1094
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: and John Gruden got fired together in a very surprising

1095
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: move when they collapsed late in John Gruden's last season.

1096
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: So who knows, maybe Alan and Gruden could get swept

1097
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: out if something like that happened. Since you brought up

1098
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: my team, Mark, not being aggressive with you at all,

1099
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: But if Hugh Jackson follows up the one and fifteen

1100
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: with a three and thirteen, yeah, I think it's still

1101
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: going to be patience is there? Because going through that

1102
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: again with any one of these bad teams. It's it's

1103
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: fine to sail. There's all this patients in August or

1104
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: at July. But if you go through that again, Hugh

1105
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: Jackson could decide to leave the front office. The front

1106
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: office could go through a major shake up. I mean

1107
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: anything is style points matter for them, though, they could

1108
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: go four and twelve and it could be the type

1109
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: of four and twelve where people would feel good. It's

1110
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: a step forward, there's progress, like you can see certain

1111
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: young players developing. Four and twelve might be totally fine.

1112
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: I think for them depends on owners. Some owners are

1113
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: are really patient, Mike Brown being the most patient owner

1114
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Jimmy Haslin has been known to fire

1115
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: guys left and right. Um, all right, there you go.

1116
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: Good hot butt talk guys. Um, we will be back,

1117
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: like we said, back to three times a week. So

1118
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: next show is on Monday. Emma, will you be with

1119
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: us on Monday as well? I will not Sully. We'll

1120
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: be back, okay, but unless you want it, right, do

1121
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: the Monday show just I would love to do the

1122
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: Monday's show. But yeah, Sully is going to be back.

1123
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: I think you got it. Um, Okay, Well, anyway, we'll

1124
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: be back three shows next week that we have been

1125
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: doing it. Tuesday video show, that Tuesday video shows now Wednesday,

1126
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: so you'll get a pod Monday, Wednesday, Friday, uh for

1127
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: the next um four weeks basically five weeks through training

1128
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: camping up to the start of the regular season. Uh

1129
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: and then of course once the season starts, to get

1130
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: your Sunday Night show, the flagship program here at the

1131
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: podcast and maybe some big surprises in store down the

1132
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: line after that. But I don't want to say anything yet.

1133
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to say anything. Getting excited. Some good

1134
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: things happening behind the scenes, That's all I want to say.

1135
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: That's new, a little bit of but wait because this

1136
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: is and I ain't talking Evan Silva big fish. M hm.

1137
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: That was a There was a gross couple of seconds

1138
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Speaker 1: there in your sound effects that I don't want to

1139
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: hear again. Good. No, Dan isn't informed just yet that

1140
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: he's replacing the three of us with Ny bur liston, Dan,

1141
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: Helly and Lindsay Rose. Amazing. Did you see my email?

1142
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: My personal email. I've only taken this Gmail because it's

1143
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: so uh exclusive. Anyway, No good things for all of us,

1144
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: Triple Source every time, Baby every time. All right, here,

1145
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: we let's go home. Thank you, Emma, you're the best.

1146
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, you're seriously the best. Stan Hanson signing

1147
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: off for a quiet storm. The Mailman, the Boss and

1148
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Speaker 1: Emma VP behind the glass until Monday.