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Speaker 2: All right, here we go spreading the corn.

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Speaker 1: Ten seconds remaining, It's gonna just go throwing under the basket.

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Speaker 3: Under the basket, it's the group for the wind God,

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Speaker 2: Water and that one from the parking lot. Welcome into

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Speaker 2: the Big Bets on Campus Podcast, presented by Bett MGM.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host this week, Jim Root, joined by the

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Speaker 2: rest of the Three man Weave crew, Matt Cox and

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Speaker 2: Ky McEwan. Every Wednesday, we're going to be coming to

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Speaker 2: your airwaves dropping a new BBOC episode talking all things

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Speaker 2: betting in the world at college hoops. Will look at

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Speaker 2: it from different angles, some blowouts, some money line upsets,

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Speaker 2: some power games, some mid major games, and of course,

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Speaker 2: bringing it back from last year, the trash Man pick

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Speaker 2: of the week. Fellas we write it a rock. Should

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Speaker 2: we just jump right into it?

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Speaker 1: They could trash out, folks. It's right jump in trash day.

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Speaker 4: Stoked.

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Speaker 2: Here we are. Let's do it all right. Let's start

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Speaker 2: off with the same section we kicked off with last year.

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Speaker 2: It is a fun one. This is the live dog

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Speaker 2: of the week.

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Speaker 5: Where is my.

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Speaker 2: Dog?

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Speaker 3: Where is mine?

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Speaker 2: Fellas, we're looking at Wednesday, Thursday, maybe venturing into Friday

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Speaker 2: Saturday games for now while the rest of BBOC is

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Speaker 2: focused on college football. But we're trying to find some

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Speaker 2: money line underdogs that have value for the people. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna start with a couple and then Kyle kick it

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Speaker 2: to you to see what you like best. On Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: we've got Northern Kentucky home dog to Cincinnati. This is

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Speaker 2: a very close rivalry game. Northern Kentucky plays a tricky zone.

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Speaker 2: Also looking at potentially Army plus six at Siena and

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Speaker 2: when I really like that could give us some nice value.

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Speaker 2: Delaware State plus twelve at Columbia. Columbia, my stink. Delaware

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Speaker 2: State was feisty at Villanova. I like their coach Stan Waterman.

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Speaker 2: What are you looking at, Kay, any of those or

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Speaker 2: any other games?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a good point on Delaware State. They were named

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Speaker 4: as the sleeper team in the MEAC. In the Almanac,

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Speaker 4: a comprehensive preview magazine written by well partially the three

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Speaker 4: men Weave MIAC coaches voted Delaware State sleeper team. They

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Speaker 4: certainly looked the part against Villanova. Jim, I am intrigued

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Speaker 4: by the pick. It might be a little bit too

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Speaker 4: high for my taste, Matthew. But I do like an

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Speaker 4: Army at Sienna. Army did lose stone Hill, obviously, but man,

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Speaker 4: this is a tough team. They're well coached by Jimmy Allen.

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Speaker 4: I think they could pull the upside here against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: I'm also looking at one on Thursday, Jim, I'm looking

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Speaker 4: at air Force hosting Portland.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Kai, you're so pro troops already. I love it.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to two fer on the troops here. Tough

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Speaker 4: place to win, air Force, Matt. And it's also a

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Speaker 4: tough offense to prepare for. Scott's Princeton offense is a

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Speaker 4: tough one to scheme for if you're Portland, especially coming

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Speaker 4: over from Kent State. So I like air Force, I

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Speaker 4: like Army. In my Live Dogs of the Week, Jim.

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Speaker 1: I almost took your Northern Kentucky one from the consideration

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Speaker 1: set of here. You mentioned I think offline how good

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Speaker 1: home dogs have been this season. Home advantage has been

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if you're gonna get great money

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Speaker 1: Missouri State headed out to the mountains, going to fade BYU,

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Speaker 2: That's very sad that we're usually high on, Mark Pope,

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Speaker 2: That's fifty two and a half percent. You're close to

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Speaker 2: Things will will even out, will regulate. But there's clearly

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Speaker 4: So home sort revenge, baby, it's coming to back, right.

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Speaker 2: That's right. So yeah, I'm going with Delaware State as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm joining there. I will be locking that one in.

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Speaker 2: Bryant plus ten at Florida Atlantic. I think Brian's a

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Speaker 1: Like, Brian, Jim with you on that one, not officially,

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Speaker 1: but I'm in your corner.

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Speaker 2: You're patting me on the back and saying good luck

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Speaker 2: the right idea. All right, Well, we will recap every

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Speaker 2: pick we have. Recap will recap every pick we have

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Speaker 2: at the end of the episode, So if you miss those,

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Speaker 2: don't worry, they'll be all the way at the end.

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Speaker 2: But we're going to move next into blowout City. This

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Speaker 2: is where we're looking for big favorites against poor competition,

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Speaker 2: but specifically ones where we think the favorite is going

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Speaker 2: to far outclass the underdog, hence blowout City. Kai, I'm

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Speaker 2: the Blue Hoe has been missing Winston Hill, a key

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Speaker 2: the talent LEVELGE can just completely overwhelm Presbyterian. UAB is

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Speaker 4: I do like that one, Jim. And it's worth noting

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Speaker 4: But there's precedence for them getting blown out here. Last

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Speaker 4: play mat and Jim's right, the talent discrepancy not even close.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could be like, well, Presbyterian can control the tempo,

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Speaker 1: their opener. I mean, it's just a complete pinball type pace.

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Speaker 1: So I feel bad for the Blue Hose.

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Speaker 2: Matt, Do you prefer that one or on Thursday? LU

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Speaker 2: really late in the process somewhat confusingly, Derek Kellogg had

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Speaker 2: really lacking. So Matt, why do you like this one

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Speaker 1: I just know that Marquette is deeper and they're not

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Speaker 1: like the UAV thing. They play so fast that the

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Speaker 1: the hump. I'm looking at that Central Michigan game. Marquete

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Speaker 1: won ninety seven seventy three. They won the second half

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Speaker 1: by seven. I believe like they just continue to put

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Speaker 1: the energizer bunny of motivation right Like, there's no there's

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Speaker 1: a Hammer's lu a team. That's a hard, hard fade

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The one risky part is that we know Shaka

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Speaker 2: get college kids like your minus nineteen. You got to

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Speaker 2: go out there and pound LU. It's a little bit

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Speaker 2: more difficult. But I'm with Matt. The pace of the

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Speaker 1: Jim, he's going to have the boys jacked up to

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Speaker 1: put a thumping on LU. And I might add that's

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Speaker 1: two days after they played Purdue Tuesday night, and I

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Speaker 2: There there you go.

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Speaker 1: Do you like first half for a full game better

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Speaker 1: than matt full game? I feel like first halves are

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Speaker 1: what I want to indorse. But then when I met them,

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Speaker 1: ill if they lose, so.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. It's is the situation.

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Speaker 2: Matthew, Sure enough, Kai any other ads mattening their ads?

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Speaker 2: Kyle'll start with you. Anything else your eye up?

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Speaker 4: No, no ads, I do. I am hesitant about Marquette

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Speaker 4: is a twenty point plus favorite even against LU. It's

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Speaker 4: just not a warm and fuzzy feeling for Shaka. Last

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Speaker 4: Jim A lu is as bad as you say. Okay, sure,

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Speaker 2: Yep, and I will mention Marquette did beat Central Michigan

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Speaker 2: so Marquette is capable of that blowout. They just got

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Speaker 2: do lose to Purdue, I think they probably will. Matt,

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Speaker 2: what else do you have for us?

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Speaker 1: Quick weekend peek ahead? Alabama's going to murder Jacksonville State

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Speaker 1: when they come to town. Well in state quasi rivalry.

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Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville State's bad this season. They've had some

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Speaker 1: talent prop them up. I think Bama rolls.

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Speaker 4: I kind of disagree here. I think Ray Harper is

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Speaker 2: I have I currently have beef with Jacksonville State before.

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Speaker 2: I really slop effort at local team UIIC on Monday night.

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Speaker 2: That's not really what we've come to expect from them.

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Speaker 4: I don't I like Gonzaga here. I think people are

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Speaker 4: I think I'll probably take Texas here.

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Speaker 1: I just think their first shot defense, how you mentioned

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna like Nzaggia like easy runouts. They're going

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Speaker 1: I trust the guards a little more than I have

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Speaker 1: in years past. It's like kind of like a new

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Speaker 4: It's a good thing for Texas. You're gonna score on

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Speaker 4: Zagaze's a pretty defense man.

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Speaker 1: It's it's solid it's not great, solid, scorable.

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Speaker 2: Not great. It's scruble. I'm with Kai wholeheartedly here. If

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Speaker 2: I'm very pro Gonzaga here. Matthew, you got to you

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Speaker 1: It's partly d Su looking awesome. I'm with you, he's

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Speaker 1: I just don't like Kenzaga supporting cast much to have

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, ball pressure is gonna be huge, Deny easy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we got Avic there. I don't think Zag

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Speaker 4: It's I've been looking back now. Literally, it's been three

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Speaker 2: An underdog y title game.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking Gonzaga as a dog. It's unprecedented in the

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I I would bet, Matt, do you

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Speaker 2: really think this line will be it's Texas.

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Speaker 4: One or two.

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Speaker 1: I bet Texas a slight favorite, slight slide.

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Speaker 4: You don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I bet Gonzaga's I bet if it opens Texas favorite.

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Speaker 2: I bet this game closes Gonzaga favorite.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I bet it stays within two either direction. I

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Speaker 4: Note of that, this minus one Gonzaga, so it will

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Speaker 2: Pick yep, so be patient. Try to find the best

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Speaker 2: let's get another one here from the Gavitt games. On

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Speaker 2: Wednesday night, Iowa headed to seat in Hall, Matt maybe

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Speaker 2: the biggest, like one sided, like an unreal offensive team

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Speaker 2: taking on a ridiculous defensive team. Iowas offense the first

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Speaker 2: The other hand, Seaton Hall's defense versus two in state

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Speaker 2: challengers held both under point seven points per possession. So

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Speaker 2: just dominant performances by both both teams are two to

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Speaker 2: zero against the number. Unsurprisingly, what do you think gives

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Speaker 2: in this matchup of strength on strength?

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Speaker 1: So Iowa brand Bethune Cookman and NCA and t out

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Speaker 1: look like complete JV nothing rosters. Now seton Hall is

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Speaker 1: a complete multiple steps up, no question. But I think

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Speaker 1: I was going to score on Sceena Hall. I know

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Speaker 1: Seenhale is going to lit me of good defenders are

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Speaker 2: It rock.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like the most fun of all time. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you'd want to bet against Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Just but Iowa until they lose and then you can

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Speaker 1: kind of reassess, recalibrate. But it's sort of the opposite

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Speaker 1: side of the Faye louisvil Coin. It's just team that's

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Speaker 1: so hot, so well connected. Don't get in the way.

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Speaker 4: That's team. Ride this team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a.

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Speaker 4: Full believer in Iowa, and I think their offense is

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Speaker 4: Those teams might be terrible this season. And I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's terrible, and I think it might

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Speaker 4: don't think can score the basketball very well. They still

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Speaker 4: didn't look that great offensively from a points per possession

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Speaker 2: Jim, Yeah, this is where we reach an agreement. We're

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Speaker 2: lot of open threes. Monath Is just fully incompetent and

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Speaker 2: had no prayer of hitting them. I will will knock

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Speaker 2: those down. They have better ball movement, they have better shooters,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's more sustainable. Alexis Yetna probably still

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Speaker 2: Big in on the Hawkeys this year, super super talented.

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Speaker 2: I think we all agree there. All right, we'll do

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Speaker 2: a quick double header look ahead to Friday.

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Speaker 1: Why let football have all the fun. Let's bet Friday

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Speaker 1: Night Lights with the Roman.

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Speaker 2: Main event out in Las Vegas. Really fantastic field here.

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Speaker 2: Baylor is a minus one favorite per Ken pom against Virginia,

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Speaker 2: then UCLA minus four taken on Illinois. Ky, I'll let

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Speaker 2: you pick and choose here, which matchup intrigues you more

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Speaker 2: from a betting perspective, Like which number stands out to you?

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Speaker 4: Baylor, We're not gonna get minus one, Jim, But can

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Speaker 4: gonna get hammered. I bet it closes around five or six.

434
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 4: I would lean towards Baylor there. I kind of like

435
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 4: Illinois against UCLA. These are two teams I really like

436
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,880
Speaker 4: a lot this season both teams, but Illinois a dog, Matt.

437
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,679
Speaker 4: They're pressing again under Underwood. It's exciting. They have a

438
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 4: very fun squad. Eager to back the Alina as well.

439
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Baylor Illinois I like a lot in both, Jim.

440
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm just projecting the Baylor line comes out closer to four,

441
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 1: even five, even sex.

442
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 4: Kay, You're right, maybe.

443
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 1: People better up that much close. Yeah, definitely Illinois Ucla.

444
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: UCLA probably is a short, short favorite I like ILLINOI

445
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,959
Speaker 1: there too a lot. I have it going right now.

446
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 1: I know they've played two terrible teams, but I think

447
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 1: they're good, So.

448
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 2: I'm I'm fully in agreement on Baylor that minus one

449
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: would be like a bet of the century kind of thing.

450
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: For me, That'd be absurd. I mean, they have the

451
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 2: shooting to go over the top of the pack line,

452
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 2: their defense is vicious, Virgina doesn't have a lot of

453
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 2: offensive firepower. I'm against you guys in the other one,

454
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: though Ucla I would I would lean their way. Tiger

455
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 2: Campbell is maybe the best point guard in the country

456
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: in terms of pressure, like facing pressure. I'd be okay

457
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 2: with him going against an Alni press. And like you

458
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 2: both kind of alluded to, this Illinois version, while intriguing,

459
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: is not battle tested yet. The UCLA Hakes and Campbell

460
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: had been through some wars together, so I'm leaning towards

461
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 2: UCLA there, especially if it's short favorite if we get

462
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: it down closer to like one or two, I'd be

463
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: back in the Bruins. But if it's for where Ken

464
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: Palm has it, then I'd probably be sitting on my

465
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 2: hands and letting you guys ride your Alini. All right,

466
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: we'll move on to our next segment. That would be

467
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: Mid Major Game of the Week, similar to the Power

468
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 2: Game of the Week, only we're featuring some of our

469
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: darlings in the mid major world starting on Wednesday. We're

470
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: missing a couple. We're not going to have a couple

471
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: of elite matchups here, but these are pretty solid. Ohio

472
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: is headed to Detroit Mercy, and you all should know

473
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: Detroit has potentially the all time i'm leading score in

474
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: NCAA history in Antoine Davis. He is chasing pistol Pete

475
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 2: Marovitch this season. They just played BC close on the road,

476
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: which turns out might not be that difficult. Unfortunately, sorry

477
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: Eagles thrown some shade, but Ohio should have beat Belmont.

478
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 2: Matt what are you looking at between these two teams?

479
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: I like the Titans finding Mike Davis's and baby did

480
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: the Davis family and known associates. Also fun fact, Antoine

481
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: Davis sharing all of his nil proceed to his teammates.

482
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: See now that's a great chemistry, high energy locker room.

483
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 1: I think the Titans are good. Should ahead VC kind

484
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: of let it slip away. They made that late charge

485
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: and just didn't execute on the stretch. Ohio is good,

486
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: but a little bit of fools gold early. I take

487
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: the Titans. Yeah, should be close to a pick him.

488
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: I think we'd assume see I take the Titans this one.

489
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 4: I think through Detroit too. In fact, I would back Detroit.

490
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 4: I think the over is going to hit. Detroit's defense

491
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 4: is highly suspect. I mean, even against Rochester, their none

492
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 4: D one team, they allowed almost to point per possession

493
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 4: in Ohio just just Man's Cleveland State on the offense

494
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 4: event Ohio, for their sake, not the best defense team either.

495
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 4: In Detroit can shoot, shoot, shoot, very talented team with

496
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 4: Antoine Davis, but also with other guys they brought in.

497
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 4: So I think towards Detroit here, Jim, I will take

498
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: them officially for the show.

499
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 2: By the way, there we go. Okay, yes, Eileen, Ohio

500
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: a little bit. I'm so impressed with the way Bulls

501
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: has retooled that team, losing Mark Sears to the portal,

502
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: losing a couple key front Corp pieces Vanderplass to the

503
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: portal too. Jason Carter graduated that team has turned around

504
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: and looks pretty competent again already, despite that close loss.

505
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 2: To Belmont, So I'm afraid to back Detroit Mercy. Although

506
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: we mentioned the Almanac earlier, thought that publication had the

507
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: most up to date rosters possible. Detroit found Clemson transfer

508
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: a j Oliver and Old Dominion transfer a j Oliver

509
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: somewhere in between publishing time and when the season started,

510
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: So that adds an extra element of talent there.

511
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 4: Bad luck for me Jim as a Detroit Ryder.

512
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: Now your fault that Mike Davis is just he trojan

513
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: horsed him into the sea. No one knew he was

514
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 2: going to be there all right. Thursday, Towson at UNC Greensboro.

515
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: Very impressed by the Towson Tigers so far this year.

516
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: We were all back in UMass when the Tigers punk

517
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: them loose in Massachusetts. UNC Greensboro a very solid team

518
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: out of the SoCon will slow you down, make it

519
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: a defensive grind, Kai, what do you got here?

520
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: I like Towson as a dog. I respect Mike Jones,

521
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 4: I respect UNC Greensboro, I respect the way they can

522
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 4: muck games up, But I'm not really scared of this team.

523
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid of them scoring points on Towson, who

524
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 4: has a pretty good defense and Towsand is the real

525
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 4: deal in my opinion. They struggle with Albany. They let

526
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 4: Penn back in the game, but they're kind of a

527
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 4: control for that one most of the game. But the

528
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 4: Massachusetts win, the UMass win man just impressive. It's a

529
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 4: cohesive team. They lack a little point guard play mat.

530
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 4: They're missing Terry Nolan clearly, but the other four guys

531
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: that are back are legit. I definitely lean their way

532
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 4: as a dog. I'm the other way.

533
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: I like the the Spartans here. I think the Towson

534
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: the gravy train comes to an end. They've played also.

535
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: Spread towsand there's no gravy train, by the way, that's true.

536
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: I guess pen Toy come back on them, but they

537
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: had Pen. They're controlled. They let up in the second

538
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: half in the Albany and the Pen games and mass

539
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: you mess didn't it kind of a run, but they

540
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: controlled that game. I just think the Towsand thing is starting.

541
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: It will start to slowly unravel, slowly, just very subtly

542
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: unrattled throughout the year. So I'm looking to fade im here.

543
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: Toussain should be two and one, right. I don't think

544
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: Penn got inside the number. Unfortunately, pen Cover was a

545
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: pen backer. I can assure you I did not win

546
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: my wager. So it depends on where it closed.

547
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 4: You're right at the end they did, they did uncovering.

548
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: You're right.

549
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 4: All many kind of back door in one year.

550
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been very impressed with Towson. I thought that

551
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: they would miss Nolan a little more than they have,

552
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: but Holden's been great making plays in the backcourt. Nigel Russell,

553
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: the transfer that they brought in, has given them a

554
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: little extra backcourt pop two. So I'll I'll ride with

555
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 2: Towson as an underdog. I'm with Kai. I like, I

556
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: like the idea of I'm not afraid of getting waterfalled

557
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: or buried under by some great unc Greensboro offensive effort.

558
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: Towson will at the very least be in it late. Okay,

559
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: that's it for a mid major game of the week. Guys.

560
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: You know what it's time for, don't you. Crashman pick

561
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: of the week, trash Man pic of the.

562
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: Week, the trash man pick of the week.

563
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: I'm the trash man.

564
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: Just throw me the trash, your garbage, and you know it.

565
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 4: Totally unreliable, undependable, that's it.

566
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: You've been told off?

567
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 4: How do you like that?

568
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: Good? All right, we don't have a recap because we

569
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 2: don't have a prior episode this season. We do need

570
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 2: to mention the Tuesday night battle between Chicago State and

571
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: IUPUY that happened only a few short miles away from

572
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: our residences down in South side of Chicago. Ug The

573
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: game under, unsurprisingly, but the Chicago State Cougars with a

574
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: home coover. Matt. You wrote about IUPUI for the Almanac

575
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: this preseason. Are they any better than last year?

576
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: Yes, but not a lot better. They're better only because

577
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: they have more than five and a half players. The

578
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: town has not really been upgraded to a bunch of young,

579
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: fringe freshmen who probably aren't you one players and whatever

580
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: cast off to guco guys and it's just like, all right,

581
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: here's eleven guys, go out there and lose by fifty.

582
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: So that's what the Jags are doing this season.

583
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm annoyed by that game because it was on Flow Sports.

584
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 2: Apparently Chicago State has hitched their wagon to Flow Hoops

585
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: as an independent, and I'm very bitter about it.

586
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 4: Yeah. Hey, both teams were semi efficient for them in

587
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: this game, but I don't know if IPUI is better

588
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: than last year. So their margin victory right now, they're

589
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 4: minus thirty margin averaging right now.

590
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: That includes playing like the fifth worst team in the

591
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: country Chicago.

592
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: Yes, they're minus ten against the spread on cover margin average.

593
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: That's terrible when you're getting those big of a spread.

594
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 4: I just can't imagine backing this team the rest of

595
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: the year. I did back them in Game one. I

596
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 4: regret it, but Jim, yes, that was a Sickos committee

597
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: game for the Ages.

598
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Siko's sick of specially it might not get better

599
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: than that for the trash man pick for the Sikos

600
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: for the rest of the year. We're going to try, though.

601
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: We've got North Dakota at Elon this week. Matthew, We've

602
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: talked about maybe this North Dakota team is just not

603
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: very good. They lack any real defensive prowess here. Elon

604
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: just got double digit losses twice in Asheville and Neutral Florida,

605
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: East Tennessee State and Harvard. Are you are you going

606
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: to go dumpster diving in this one? Do you see

607
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: any edge here?

608
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: Maybe on Elon the Phoenix the Flight of the Phoenix. Yeah,

609
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking to fade the note X. Their fan forms

610
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: are hilarious. They can't fathom how bad they've been the

611
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: last two seasons. And every year I think they're gonna

612
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: be good, but every year they're not.

613
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to go Elon.

614
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: I'll take you on here, O.

615
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: I lean toward North Dakota. You're gonna give me either

616
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: of these team as a favorite. I will take the

617
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: dog all day. North Dakota did actually have a win.

618
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 4: I don't think Ets or Harvard is that good, and

619
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: they won easily against Elon's new coach, Billy Taylor, probably

620
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: still figuring stuff out. So I'll go with the slightly

621
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: more continuity team and that's North North Dakota.

622
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd have a little numerical edge to North Dakota here.

623
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: Last year Matt we tried to make excuses for him

624
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: because of how injured they were. They just got ravaged

625
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 2: by the mash unit of wounds. But this year it's

626
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: a little bleaker and Elon completely rebuilding, so I would

627
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: lean towards North Dakota. But I'm going to stay out

628
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: of the dumpster with my dollars this week. Maybe I'll

629
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: turn it on and get real sick. Oh no, this

630
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: should be This will probably be on Flow Sports because

631
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: this is a colonial athletic team unfortunately. All right, let's

632
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: move on to a quick section our spotlight. We'd try

633
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: to hit a trend or an overarching theme from the

634
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: season so far this year, and then we'll give you

635
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: our bets recap from what we've got so far. In

636
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: the show, we're going with the best and worst against

637
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: the spread league so far this year. Guys, We're going

638
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: to decide if we should take anything away, if these

639
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: leagues are undervalued, or if they just have a couple

640
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: teams that are playing well. If it's too early to conclude,

641
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: but we're gonna start with a couple of the best

642
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: ATS conferences, and kai number one in the country is

643
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: the Big Ten. The only winless against the spread team

644
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: is Nebraska. Everybody else has been really impressive as a

645
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: big favorite. What do you think of the Big Ten?

646
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: Is it undervalued as a whole?

647
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Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently it is. Everyone assumed it would be down again.

648
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: I think it's a tendency to ignore the next man

649
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: up theory. Right, they lost all these stars, all these

650
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: teams will be terrible. There's Division one basketball players four stars,

651
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 4: five stars on these teams that are pretty good. And hey,

652
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: there are some pretty good coaches in this league as well,

653
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: so teams like Illinois, Iowa, Purdue, Ohio State. These teams

654
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: are always going to be good. They're taking care of

655
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: business early. So not too shocked that the Big Ten

656
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: is playing the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll throw a penn stay in the next too.

658
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Speaker 1: There's no Tier one team in the Big Ten, but

659
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Speaker 1: there's a lot more Tier two teams than you thought.

660
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Speaker 1: However you draw that line, but think like Illinois, Indiana,

661
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Speaker 1: Michigan predume getting close to there. I think Michigan State

662
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Speaker 1: pretty Impressicans, Gonzago, Ohio State, Iowa for gainness six. Yes,

663
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Speaker 1: we're hard nodding at that. Wi Consints look impressive. Yeah, Jim,

664
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Speaker 1: it's just a good, top ish heavy league, not top

665
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Speaker 1: top heavy league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so why why can't they win in They can't

667
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: they win in March madness? Matt, No, we don't need it.

668
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: We don't need to litigate that here.

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Speaker 1: The scientists are still solving that one.

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Speaker 3: Jim.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, preseason, that just there was no clear like super

672
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: competent guards, but there are enough solid players. Just kind

673
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 2: of mentioned the guys on the on the rosters are talented,

674
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: they're just not yet proven, and they have some of

675
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: the best big men in the entire country. It is

676
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: the year of the big after all. A couple other

677
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: leagues worth mentioning, Matty, you can highlight any of these.

678
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Speaker 2: Summit is sixteen and eight, the MAC Mid American is

679
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: fourteen and seven, America East eleven and six, and the

680
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: Southland I want to mention here fourteen and five. Northwestern

681
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: State and newcomer Texas A and M Commerce are both

682
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Speaker 2: three and up against the number. South's been outstanding so

683
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: far this year despite some of the losses and teams

684
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: that they've had in recent history, with Stephen F. Austin

685
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: and Sam Houston State leaving which one of these jumps

686
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: out to you some.

687
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Speaker 1: It surprises me and so I didn't think would be great.

688
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: It's a league that I think struggles usually historically and

689
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: totally in non conference because they can't guard anybody. They're

690
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: not big upfront. But uh, I guess I've been proven wrong.

691
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: The jack Bunnies are carrying the freight. I think with

692
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: three of the four the sixteen covers, they're.

693
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: Only played two so far. They've only played two.

694
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: There are two. Okay, I actually think Gore Roberts is

695
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: zero and two to zero and three against the spread,

696
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: oh and three yep. Or maybe they cover against Saint Mary's.

697
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: Maybe they got that back door.

698
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends the number you got. It was right

699
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: around the closing number.

700
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Speaker 4: Jam, I'm surprised about the South one. Man, this is

701
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: swack Miyak last year all over again. Uh and this

702
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: goes to show you too, don't fade these new D

703
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: one teams. Man, Commerce three oz gets the spread. Northern

704
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: Colorado was up by a billion. Matt and I are

705
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: both in that game. They just blew it.

706
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: Oh that was two. Don't worry. All three of us

707
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: were my gosh.

708
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: I mean, but again, these teams are usually underrated. They're

709
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 4: scrappier than you think, and they've improving it this year

710
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: with Commerce and others across the country.

711
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the gap between Division two and Division one is

712
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 2: not as large as we'd like to think it is.

713
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: A lot of guys playing in Division two are more

714
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: than capable. Like, it's not like the best Division two

715
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: player is not worse than the worst Division one player,

716
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: not even close. So yeah, that's something worth noting as

717
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: we move forward and more teams continue to get added

718
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: to the D one fold. Let's flip the coin to

719
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: the other side, because I want to I want to

720
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: make Matt defend his countrymen. Here from the ACC by

721
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: far the worst power conference league against the numbers so

722
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: far the ACC. But Matt, in fairness, it is because

723
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: the bottom is terrible. Florida State, Louisville really really bad

724
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: against the number. The bottom is bad. Are there enough

725
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: good wins to be had here for this league to

726
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: make an impact in the postseason? And are we going

727
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: to keep fading a lot of these bad teams?

728
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Boston College to a lesser extent, I think they're

729
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: well coached, But Louisville.

730
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: And Georgia wa three. Boston College, yeah.

731
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Speaker 1: But Louisville Georgia Tech are the two you just have

732
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: to auto fade, right, I mean your to Tech. I

733
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: think they're lucky to haven't played a marquee game yet,

734
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: like Louisville has. I think it's going to come out

735
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: that they're just as bad as Louisville's now.

736
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: First, Yeah, they were lucky to win outright at Georgia State,

737
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: but did not cover in a narrow cover and that

738
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: Avoiding the outright loss is the key to staying out

739
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: of head less and Louisville has not done that at all.

740
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: Florida State has not done that at all. Kai, are

741
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: you thinking, let's let's just continue fading Florida State and

742
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: BC until it hits the bottom.

743
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's profitable, and Louisville too, and even Pitt as well,

744
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 4: even though Pitt cover against u C.

745
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Martin.

746
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: But these teams tend to be overvalued because they're the ACC,

747
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 4: and I'm pretty sure going back the last couple of years,

748
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: it just hasn't been profitable back these teams, even teams

749
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: at the top. North Carolina did not cover against Wilmington

750
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 4: against Charleston either. Virginia didn't cover against n C Central.

751
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: These teams are just a little bit overrated. Miami, Florida.

752
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 4: You can really go down the list here. None of

753
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 4: these teams have looked great against the number except that's

754
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 4: Dookies and maybe Virginia Tech as well. But it's been

755
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: profitable if they had the ACC, I'll probably continue to

756
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 4: do it.

757
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year they were a disaster against the spread

758
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: in the non conference. This feels a lot like last

759
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: season when the PAC twelve in the twenty twenty one

760
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: tournament had played so well it elevated every team's rating,

761
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 2: elevated their preseason ratings, and they were not good against

762
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: the number. Early ACC had a couple teams go on

763
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: postseason runs, your Miami's, your North Carolina's. I think that

764
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: elevated the expectations for this conference, even though there Dame

765
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: won a game in the Big Dance, and unfortunately it's

766
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: it's come crashing down. The bottom is bad, the middle

767
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: is not as strong as maybe we thought it was

768
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 2: all right elsewhere. Other ones just worth highlighting Mountain West

769
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: seven and twelve in the top four teams or arguably

770
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: for the top five or six teams, Wyoming, San Diego State,

771
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 2: Colorado State, UNLVZH to eight. Wow overvalued there Horizons six

772
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: and thirteen and Youngstown's three and zero, So they're the

773
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: only team really pulling their weight for for the Horizon

774
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: and the IVY six and twelve. I think we usually

775
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: perceive the IVY is a tough prep, a really tough

776
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: opponent in the non con but they have struggled so

777
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: far this year. Kai any of these that you're gonna

778
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: really look to continue fading or you think maybe we

779
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 2: get an upswing coming.

780
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 4: Gosh, Horizon maybe and I just took Detroit, but there's

781
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: a lot of bad teams in that league. It's definitely centralized.

782
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 4: I'm surprised about Youngstown. I definitely raised them. Respect them.

783
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: Now the IVY is the shocking one gym, and you

784
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: can blame Columbia all you want, but the fact is

785
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: Brown hasn't showed up, Dartmouth hasn't showed up, and Harvard

786
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: has not really played well at all besides that Elon win. So, yeah,

787
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: that is concerning. That is surprising. Let's hope Pin for example,

788
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: turns of it around in your future.

789
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, Horizon's terrible. Jim Kempalm has this the lowest

790
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: rated Horizon League. I think its existence last year was

791
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: a record. In this year it's outpacing last year's discussing this,

792
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: it's just not a good league. Like nothing at the

793
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: topics side. You there's flaws everywhere on these teams. You

794
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: can maybe argue there's some value in fading this conference

795
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: for the rest of the non league part of the schedule,

796
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: but I don't really like tethering myself to like macro angles,

797
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: but certainly some issues in this conference.

798
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do perceive a couple of those teams, most

799
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: notably Predue Fort Wayne, as struggling to play up to

800
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: talent above them. We just saw Oakland get boat raced

801
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: in their own gym by Oklahoma State. I think there

802
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: is a little bit of an issue, especially if you

803
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: so if you find these horizon teams other than playing

804
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: against Louisville, if you find them finding or matched up

805
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: against a power conference team, that's when I think you

806
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: really want to look to fade the horizon because the

807
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: talent's just it doesn't elevate against higher competition the way

808
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: it should. All Right, guys, before we close things out,

809
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: let's recap the bets we made on this pod, the

810
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: things we're eyeing up for this week. Matt, I'm going

811
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Speaker 2: to go to you first hit us with your money lines,

812
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: and then anything else you bet during this pod.

813
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: I got money line too, for with Missouri State and

814
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: Delaware State looking at dogs to an out right there,

815
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: and then Marquette minus a billion and WHI should be

816
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: a complete blood bath. And then UNC Greensboro I'm going

817
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: against a thousand force and Jujuiu's been rolling with the Tigers.

818
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm going with the spartans Mike Jones, who Mike Jones

819
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: and co.

820
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: I'm taking air Force and Army against the spread, but

821
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 4: also sprinkling the money line with those guys Gonzaga if

822
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: they open up as a dog against Texas and Detroit

823
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: Mercy Antoine Davis take me home against Ohio.

824
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 2: You know, the mid major get one of the mid

825
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: major games of the week. I'm joining Matt on the

826
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: Delaware State money line. I'm joining Kai on the Army

827
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: money line Greensboro. I talk myself out of that on

828
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: this pod. To be quite honest, Baylor, we all love

829
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: Baylor against Virginia. If you get even a halfway decent number,

830
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: something under three would be dynamite. Even under five, I

831
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: think it's probably worth looking at. And then, similar to

832
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: Matt's Marquette, take UAB minus a large number against shorthanded Presbyterian.

833
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: I just know it's you AB as a large favorite

834
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: with a lot of talent, so I'm happy to back them.

835
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: They already blew out Alabama State once this year. So

836
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Speaker 2: all right. That's it. That wraps up our first twenty

837
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Speaker 2: two to twenty three season episode of Big Bets on Campus.

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Speaker 2: We'll be coming to you every single Wednesday shout out

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Speaker 2: to bet MGM for sponsoring the episode. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you again next Wednesday morning.