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Speaker 1: Tom Rock, Julie, what did what did almost missing that

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Speaker 1: game in Chicago last week because of the COVID that

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Speaker 1: that changed your approach to anything or uh your appreciation

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Speaker 1: I guess of of you know, playing in these games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was an emotional week for me. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, my family and my fiancee. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we weren't able to just off protocols, weren't able to

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Speaker 1: be together, um Christmas, and so I was before the

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Speaker 1: Philly game. We it's just us two out here, and

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Speaker 1: so you know that stunk. Uh. You know, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: ideal for sure, you know, made it through, found a way. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was good through Philly and then yeah, we test positive.

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Speaker 1: I was, I was. I was upset, you know. I

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Speaker 1: I have a great support system people back home in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: and so I just wanted to help represent them in

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Speaker 1: any way I could. Um. And I mean it's just

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Speaker 1: it was all meant to be when it was meant

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Speaker 1: to be. Um because obviously that day or the next day,

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Speaker 1: the CDC past the five day thing, and the NFL

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Speaker 1: soon after past there appealed to it. And so man,

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Speaker 1: I'm just very fortunate to not miss a game. Um,

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Speaker 1: I pride myself I'm playing and being available. Um. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be a guy who lets anybody down. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I mean kudos Staur coaching stafford kind of getting

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Speaker 1: me ready game and develed up and giving me a

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Speaker 1: chance to at least compete in in some aspect in

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Speaker 1: the game. In my home all swords. Hey Julian, Hey Paul,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing good? How are you? Um? Um Joe.

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Speaker 1: Joe was speaking the other day about, you know, not

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Speaker 1: seeing golf clubs in the locker room, not hearing guys

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Speaker 1: to planning for vacations. But I mean, you guys know

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Speaker 1: the season is over after this, so I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there's some kind of planning or in your head,

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Speaker 1: you know what you're doing after the season, right and

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Speaker 1: and and players talk about that correct. Uh, Man, I

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Speaker 1: would say, I don't know. I actually don't know what

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Speaker 1: he has doing after this season. I think, uh, everyone's

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Speaker 1: kind of just getting up on kind of what this

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Speaker 1: season has been to him. There's been a lot of reflecting,

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Speaker 1: especially in a secondary on defense, reflecting on kind of what,

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Speaker 1: you know, what we need to improve on, what we

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Speaker 1: could do. We have a lot of pieces going forward, um.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that's been the main topic of conversation.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard too much of kind of what's going

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Speaker 1: on in the off season. UM. I know somebody told

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Speaker 1: me that he mentioned the years past it was like that,

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Speaker 1: and I can attest to that. Um, you know, being

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Speaker 1: here for a few years now. Uh. And so I think,

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Speaker 1: thankfully you're not seeing that. You're you're not seeing guys

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Speaker 1: lose focus. You're seeing guys, like I said, be attentive

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Speaker 1: to this game and just really give me your best.

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Speaker 1: And it's the prideful thing. You don't want to just fold. Um.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that's what we are discussing. When

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Speaker 1: you say you can attest to that, give me examples.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what did it look like in years past

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Speaker 1: and week sixteen seventeen in the locker room. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know it's not every guy, but you see those

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Speaker 1: one offs of some guys, you know, the very next

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Speaker 1: day on a trip to a vacation spot. Um. And

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of immediately getting out of the facility,

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Speaker 1: out of New Jersey. UM. And I think it's partly

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Speaker 1: because Joe kind of really wanted us to feel one

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Speaker 1: with the community. UM. I would say that. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was a guy who you know, a few days

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Speaker 1: after I close out everything, you know, go back home.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm hanging around Jersey a little bit this

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Speaker 1: year because I just, I don't know, I just I

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Speaker 1: don't want to come to grips with the end of

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Speaker 1: this season, end of my team, and so I know

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Speaker 1: I could have touched It is only the DBS and

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Speaker 1: kind of what we're doing and we're playing see each other, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know in h soon after the season ends, um,

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Speaker 1: and to kind of not just all go separate ways. UM.

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Speaker 1: Joe major. One more thing. Joe mentioned that he saw

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Speaker 1: some you know, we heard that some teams had tapped out,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Giants in the past, you know a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago had tapped out. What does that

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Speaker 1: mean tapped out? Do you think? I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think it's you know, calling it in, you know, or

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Speaker 1: phoning in kind of trying to get through the days. UM.

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Speaker 1: I know my perspective, I always felt like I had

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Speaker 1: something to prove. Um, dating back to two years ago.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was playing the last five games of

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Speaker 1: the season on defense, and so I couldn't afford the

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Speaker 1: opera tunity to just take it easy because I was

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Speaker 1: demonstrating my abilities. Um. Then last year too, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm always trying to showcase who I am as

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Speaker 1: a player, and I think it's important and I think

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Speaker 1: as players who take pride in things, that's what you get.

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Speaker 1: And thankfully a lot of guys UM are taking that approach.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're trying to put their best foot forward

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Speaker 1: for the team, UM, for Joe, for the community. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: We'll take one last one with Tom Cannavan and Julian.

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Speaker 1: I have actually two questions, UM, this this season, you're

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Speaker 1: going into the final game as opposed to last year

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Speaker 1: where you had a chance to make the playoffs. Is

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Speaker 1: this a disappointing year because there's nothing there? I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's as a whole, we're not where we

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Speaker 1: want to be in no aspect um. I think to

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Speaker 1: come to grips with that, I try to pick and

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Speaker 1: choose what was good what was bad about the year? Um.

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Speaker 1: You have some good games where we really fought, come together.

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Speaker 1: We have some games where we left a lot out

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Speaker 1: there on the table, um. And so yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: very directly like, we're not where we want to be

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Speaker 1: at all, um, and it is I'm disappointed, um, just

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Speaker 1: because I feel like I wanted to do more to

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Speaker 1: help the team succeed. Um. And so yeah, that's my

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Speaker 1: take on it. Okay, final question I have is how

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Speaker 1: tough is it getting to the building today? Man, I

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Speaker 1: was on a Route three for four hours this morning. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was, you know, very unfortunate. Thankfully I made it

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Speaker 1: in safe, kind of made made some plays on the road.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I wouldn't advise against um, but thankfully I'm here,

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Speaker 1: you know, to everybody to just sigh, hope everybody's safe,

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Speaker 1: and just kind of praying for everybody.