Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: it's dead.
Speaker 2: It's coming this way.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, how I'm coosted? I was that is?
Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Roz.
Speaker 3: I'm going to conclude my conversation with Seth Jarrett, creator
Speaker 3: of my favorite TV show of all time, Celebrity Ghost Stories.
Speaker 3: We've got more to get into on today's episode, and
Speaker 3: I can't wait for you to hear it. But first
Speaker 3: I wanted to just if you didn't hear this news story.
Speaker 3: You know me, the only time I cover current events
Speaker 3: is when it's not the stuff that we all need
Speaker 3: to hear about. But there's this there's a story that
Speaker 3: I heard that is.
Speaker 2: It's a wild one. Okay.
Speaker 3: So apparently, just like last week, there were twenty eight
Speaker 3: girls in Colombia, school girls that were hospitalized after playing
Speaker 3: with a wigi board at their school. They were fainting,
Speaker 3: they were hospitalized for anxiety. I believe I read a
Speaker 3: report of drool on some of them.
Speaker 2: Some of them were drooling.
Speaker 3: First of all, I don't know why these girls were
Speaker 3: playing a wigi board at school, but it's just like
Speaker 3: it's just a story that that happened. I mean, it
Speaker 3: did have.
Speaker 2: The girls.
Speaker 3: They they went to the hospital after playing a wedge board. Now,
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because obviously it would make
Speaker 3: one think that it's because they've they got possessed and.
Speaker 2: They had to go to school.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's one way to get out of school,
Speaker 3: you know, you gotta elgebra tests that day, pull out
Speaker 3: the Ouiji board. I'm not sure the exact reason for why,
Speaker 3: but the parents are mad.
Speaker 2: I don't know. So that I was just like two
Speaker 2: and more, you know, me with my research and I
Speaker 2: found this article that is.
Speaker 3: From November of twenty twenty two, and it says that
Speaker 3: eleven children in a different part of Columbia collapsed at
Speaker 3: their school after playing Luigi board. They were aged thirteen
Speaker 3: to seventeen and they just they passed out in the
Speaker 3: hallway and they were vomiting. They had abdominal pain, muscle spasms.
Speaker 3: It seems like now I haven't found exact follow up
Speaker 3: articles that had.
Speaker 2: You know, official.
Speaker 3: Diagnoses or anything, but this seems to be it was,
Speaker 3: you know, highly suspected that it could have been food poisoning,
Speaker 3: something that they ate at school, or they had shared germs,
Speaker 3: but it is weird that it happened right after they
Speaker 3: were playing the Ouiji board and these two scenarios. I'm
Speaker 3: keeping my eye on this story. I don't know, it's just.
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's a funny story because
Speaker 3: it's it's not. But it's like what twenty eight twenty
Speaker 3: eight girls. Anyway, let's get to this conversation Seth Jarrett.
Speaker 3: He's amazing. I heard so many nice messages from last
Speaker 3: week's part one. If you haven't heard it, go back
Speaker 3: and listen, and then you know, catch this one. I
Speaker 3: love you guys so much. And here we go part
Speaker 3: two with the creator of Celebrity ghost Stories, Seth Jarrett,
Speaker 3: and with the show.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm curious because you said, you know, some
Speaker 1: people don't want to, you know, tell the story, or
Speaker 1: tell the story more than once. I know that there
Speaker 1: are people who are afraid to tell their stories, not
Speaker 1: necessarily because they don't want to get emotional again, but
Speaker 1: because they really feel like they don't want to cross
Speaker 1: aligne with spirits.
Speaker 2: Oh I've had that too, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know there are some people that
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, mind the way I've always sort
Speaker 1: of thought about, especially doing a lot of these kind
Speaker 1: of shows. The Celebrity ghost Stories is only one of
Speaker 1: probably four or five para normals shows we ended up doing.
Speaker 1: But I've always sort of thought about that thing, like,
Speaker 1: you know, the more you poke the other side, the
Speaker 1: more you know eventually it's gonna go back. And I
Speaker 1: do think that people have that that feeling sometimes like
Speaker 1: they can talk about it, you can get right up
Speaker 1: to a line, but there is a line that you
Speaker 1: could cross where you might just be, you know, mixing
Speaker 1: it up a little too much.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can tell you from my experience that the more
Speaker 3: I poke fun at it or have have fun with it,
Speaker 3: talk about it, the less ghosts want anything to do
Speaker 3: with me. That's this has just been my experience. But
Speaker 3: maybe but you did kind of scare me when you
Speaker 3: said eventually it'll catch up to you, because I might
Speaker 3: be a dad, not you.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, you know, I don't mean you.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Wikipedia.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm just remembering the season one, episode three,
Speaker 3: Carrie Fisher, Rest in peace.
Speaker 2: Rue McClanahan, Rest in peace.
Speaker 3: John Waters, John Waters, I'm a huge My entire bathroom
Speaker 3: is divine and John Waters themed. What was like talking
Speaker 3: to John Waters about I want to say it was
Speaker 3: his uh summer camp as a child.
Speaker 2: Of course I knew that.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course. And that's and you know, he's one
Speaker 1: of those people, I mean, he just you know, he's
Speaker 1: al he's a storyteller, right, So he's not one of
Speaker 1: the people that comes in uncomfortable. He comes in, he
Speaker 1: sits down where you know, he's like, where do I look,
Speaker 1: Let's get this going, and and he just like it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's theater for for him, and it's
Speaker 1: a And so that's like that magical mix like between
Speaker 1: a real story and someone who also just knows how
Speaker 1: to tell it. And you know, I I was a
Speaker 1: summer camp like a sleep away camp kid, and so
Speaker 1: for me that was a super fun experience because of him,
Speaker 1: and then also kind of just really you know, reliving
Speaker 1: some of my own you know, like scary ghost story
Speaker 1: days and going into the woods and and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So but he was great. I have, I mean a
Speaker 1: very fun memory of of of him and his story.
Speaker 1: And he's one of those people that probably could have
Speaker 1: stayed eight hours because he was enjoying himself and we
Speaker 1: probably had we probably had three or four other celebrities
Speaker 1: to interview that day, so we had to say goodbye
Speaker 1: to him. But but but he was He was great.
Speaker 1: And that was also a really fun recreation to do
Speaker 1: with all those kids. It was always fun shooting the kids,
Speaker 1: especially on the recreations, because you know, it's just crazy
Speaker 1: and unpredictable, and kids, you know, they would they say,
Speaker 1: you know, don't animals, kids and animals, And so the kids,
Speaker 1: you know, they they're doing whatever the hell they want
Speaker 1: and we're giving them flashlights and it's at night, and
Speaker 1: so they're running off in the woods. We're trying to
Speaker 1: get a shot and all, you know, all that fun,
Speaker 1: crazy stuff that that sort of stay in your memory.
Speaker 1: But he was great. We were so happy to have
Speaker 1: him so early on the series.
Speaker 2: Was there a celebrity like the one that got away?
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, I feel like there is the only I'm
Speaker 1: sure there is, and I can't remember. I will tell
Speaker 1: you that my one of the casting people once wrote
Speaker 1: an elevator with Keanu Reeves. And Keanu has stories, He's
Speaker 1: been public about his stories, and she got up the
Speaker 1: nerve to ask if he would be on the show,
Speaker 1: and he she said he actually seemed fairly interested, but
Speaker 1: was like, you know, in the edit for John Wick
Speaker 1: or something like, you know, something like a one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollar movie, and just didn't have time at the
Speaker 1: moment to do the show because we were literally like,
Speaker 1: if you want to come downstairs right now, we'll interview you. Oh.
Speaker 3: It was literally like at the building where you guys
Speaker 3: did the interviews.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was in the building where the studio was.
Speaker 3: I had a moment like this with Chris Pine a
Speaker 3: couple of months ago. I did a little thing with
Speaker 3: Chris Pine, and somebody had mentioned his ghost story, like
Speaker 3: somebody that had a mutual ghost story with him from
Speaker 3: a shoot that they did together told it on my show,
Speaker 3: and then when I was working with him, it came up,
Speaker 3: and then he started telling his amazing ghost story, and
Speaker 3: I was just like, I want to ask so bad.
Speaker 3: I ended up not I chickened out, but I'm like, God,
Speaker 3: he's so busy, He's so like, how would I even
Speaker 3: coordinate that? Is he gonna be like, here's my phone number?
Speaker 3: Like I doubt it, but.
Speaker 1: I do think at one point there there had in
Speaker 1: some interest expressed from Demi Levado cool, which would have
Speaker 1: been very cool. It just didn't work out. I'm sure
Speaker 1: she's very busy.
Speaker 3: Well, she's doing paranormal right, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: And then and then Kasha ended up doing a whole
Speaker 1: paranormal series after she had done Celebrity ghost Stories, but
Speaker 1: also the Haunting of which was our spinoff.
Speaker 2: Came Rousso okay, how did that start?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it is actually a fun story. So I
Speaker 1: think in season two we had the chance to interview
Speaker 1: Loretta Lynn, who sadly just passed away. We had a
Speaker 1: chance to interview her. But you know, the show has
Speaker 1: always been in a studio, right, people come to studio,
Speaker 1: we either do it in New York or LA and
Speaker 1: they sit down for a couple hours and and you know,
Speaker 1: we try to make it as super easy on them
Speaker 1: as possible. But Loretta Lynn didn't want to leave. I
Speaker 1: can't remember the name of her. The compound in Tennessee,
Speaker 1: it's like this famous you know, the Loretta Lynn House
Speaker 1: where all these things have happened and actually is famously haunted.
Speaker 1: And it also has I think an amusement park and
Speaker 1: a racetrack on her property. And so she said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not I don't want to come to
Speaker 1: New York right now. But if you guys come to
Speaker 1: my house in Tennessee, then we can do the interview there.
Speaker 2: I can't. I didn't, Diva. I love it.
Speaker 3: That is such an amazing move, Like you guys could
Speaker 3: come over here.
Speaker 2: I'm not going over there.
Speaker 1: And at first, of course, who were like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't think we have the money to go down this
Speaker 1: is we don't have a big budget for this show.
Speaker 1: But then someone on the staff and I had no idea.
Speaker 1: Someone on the staff had said, you know, her house
Speaker 1: is haunted, like she is a famous haunted estate. So
Speaker 1: then we went to A and E. We went to
Speaker 1: the network and we said, hey, since we're going down
Speaker 1: there to do this interview, why don't we turn this
Speaker 1: into a special. Let's do a whole hour on Loretta
Speaker 1: Linn and see how it goes. And then the network
Speaker 1: said to us, you know, we have this psychic medium
Speaker 1: named Kim Russo who has been working on a show
Speaker 1: that we do called Psychic Kids, and she's so good
Speaker 1: in the audience loves her. What if you sent her
Speaker 1: down with you and you guys toured the property and
Speaker 1: Kim could could read the property and see what she
Speaker 1: gets and then read Loretta and we can kind of
Speaker 1: turn her normal, everyday ghost story into something bigger. And
Speaker 1: so that's what we did. We went down, we brought Kim.
Speaker 1: We had never worked with her before. It was the
Speaker 1: first time we worked with her, and we turned it
Speaker 1: into a special, which was an episode I think season
Speaker 1: two maybe beginning of season three. It was a Celebrity
Speaker 1: ghost Stories special, and then that did so well that
Speaker 1: the network said, why don't we do a whole series
Speaker 1: with Kim where she's taking celebrities back to the original
Speaker 1: you know, location of their haunting and she tries to
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, what it was, who it was,
Speaker 1: why it happens, how to finally get the spirits to
Speaker 1: stop haunting them, whatever the particular story is. And we
Speaker 1: ended up doing close to one hundred episodes of the
Speaker 1: Haunting of with a lot of people from Celebrity ghost Stories,
Speaker 1: but then a lot of new people who wanted to
Speaker 1: be on the show because they really respected Kim's.
Speaker 2: She seems good.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never met her, but did she ever
Speaker 3: give you a reading or pick up on anything?
Speaker 1: She did not. She has read my wife a bunch,
Speaker 1: She's read everyone on the staff, everyone at A and
Speaker 1: E Networks. I think, you know, I always try to
Speaker 1: come to the shows that we did. That's the way
Speaker 1: you know, as a as a healthy skeptic, and I
Speaker 1: always found that that helped me producing the shows and
Speaker 1: interviewing people because the goal is to is to ask
Speaker 1: them questions and to produce them in a way that
Speaker 1: gives the right explanation to the audience as to what's happening.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think if you believe to deeply in the work,
Speaker 1: you sometimes you kind of you forget those, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of some like in a way, some of the
Speaker 1: obvious things, and because you don't know if you don't
Speaker 1: know if the audience, if someone's watching it, is a
Speaker 1: full on believer, is a total skeptic, is somewhere in
Speaker 1: the middle. And so we just Kim and I developed
Speaker 1: and we work really well together. But I think we
Speaker 1: just developed this like very professional, like let's go in
Speaker 1: and let's focus on the celebrity. I mean, there are
Speaker 1: many times where I kind of secretly wanted her to
Speaker 1: look at me and say, your grandfather's season, this is
Speaker 1: what he has to say, but she she didn't. I
Speaker 1: think we just we kind of set that early but
Speaker 1: everyone else she read. Very often, she would read crew members,
Speaker 1: you know, without it being planned. I mean it just
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, it happened, and sometimes that would
Speaker 1: make its way onto camera. But I worked with a
Speaker 1: lot of psychic mediums, and Kim is the real deal.
Speaker 1: I've seen her do readings where even the biggest skeptic
Speaker 1: would say, that's not possible. I don't know, how could
Speaker 1: she possibly know that? And that was fun, you know
Speaker 1: that it was fun to be around someone that was constantly,
Speaker 1: constantly surprising everyone around her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that when you're a public figure
Speaker 3: or celebrity and you get ready by psychics. Of course
Speaker 3: there's the obvious things that you can google. But when
Speaker 3: a psychic can tell you about a childhood friend that
Speaker 3: they would never have known from any Google or book
Speaker 3: or biography whatever, that's when it's like, damn, she's good.
Speaker 1: And a lot of celebrities came came to the show,
Speaker 1: came to that show as huge skeptics and like really
Speaker 1: looking to trip her up. Huh, and I don't. I
Speaker 1: think by the end of every episode the celebrities were convinced.
Speaker 1: And I saw people in the course of just a
Speaker 1: couple hours go from the biggest skeptics to like kneeling
Speaker 1: at her feet saying, just tell me how to live
Speaker 1: my life, because you know everything, That's what it felt like.
Speaker 1: It was sometimes really fascinating to see.
Speaker 3: What was it like when SNL did a parody of
Speaker 3: your show.
Speaker 1: Now SNL okay, So that parody was after was one
Speaker 1: week after the pilot. A lot of people don't know this.
Speaker 1: A lot of people assume that it was, you know,
Speaker 1: after the show had been on for years, and so
Speaker 1: it was one week after the pilot. And I remember
Speaker 1: that night so vividly because we had just finished the show.
Speaker 1: I think we literally finished editing the pilot, like, you know,
Speaker 1: three days before it aired. It was just one of
Speaker 1: those like crash and burn, just get it on, you know,
Speaker 1: on the air, and then it aired. And then the
Speaker 1: next week, I'm home and we have SNL on, but
Speaker 1: we're not watching it. I'm just sort of walking around
Speaker 1: in my kitchen. I don't remember exactly, and I hear
Speaker 1: the the opening, you know, sort of words, the opening
Speaker 1: the theme song of Celebrity ghost Stories. I hear it,
Speaker 1: but I look over, but it's Channel four and I
Speaker 1: know it's I'm not on the channel that that our
Speaker 1: show is on, and I start like, literally I'm yelling
Speaker 1: upstairs to my wife, like I don't understand NBC is
Speaker 1: playing Celebrity ghost Stories. What's what's going on? What's going on?
Speaker 1: And then Drew Barrymore pops up she was born. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it literally was one of those like mind you know,
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what was happening, and it took
Speaker 1: me a couple of minutes to understand that Saturday Night Live,
Speaker 1: like this show that literally I grew up with everybody
Speaker 1: grew up with, was doing a spoof about a show
Speaker 1: that we just created. And then of course all the
Speaker 1: phone calls so coming in my parents and my friend
Speaker 1: and my mother in law, like everyone's calling and saying,
Speaker 1: are you watching Celebrity Ghost Stories on SNL? And that
Speaker 1: was That was one of the more surreal moments.
Speaker 2: That's so cool.
Speaker 1: It was, It was, It was very cool. I think
Speaker 1: the really really weird part about the whole thing no
Speaker 1: one knows this and ros I want to tell you
Speaker 1: the first well besides the crew. So in the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show, there's a voice when the tape recorder
Speaker 1: is playing, and the.
Speaker 2: One I go Celebrity ghost Stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's me, that's you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I'll try it.
Speaker 1: I'll try that. I'll try to recreate it right now
Speaker 1: now obviously like heavily affected and the editor took my
Speaker 1: voice like four times and everything, but I'm gonna try to.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to recreate it. Okay, wait, let me see.
Speaker 2: Celebrity ghost Stories.
Speaker 1: Stop. It was that good? Did I get close?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is the most iconic episode I've
Speaker 3: ever had ever, so saying so, not only.
Speaker 1: Was I watching our show be spooped on SNL, but
Speaker 1: I heard my voice on SNL. So that was that
Speaker 1: was That was a fun moment.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like the question that everyone wants to
Speaker 3: know is any chance of that format, the original format,
Speaker 3: ever coming back.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 1: In talks.
Speaker 2: Sorry I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't promise, but I have I think made a
Speaker 1: very good, uh fails pitch to the powers that be
Speaker 1: that the show has been off long enough that there
Speaker 1: are now so many people who want to be on
Speaker 1: the show, like huge guests potentially, and the timing is right.
Speaker 1: It also feels like one of those things like someone
Speaker 1: else is going to bring back the show and it
Speaker 1: should be us, right, because, of course, because we did
Speaker 1: it first. I do have a yeah. I mean obviously
Speaker 1: I love my A and E network friends, and I
Speaker 1: do want them to do it. Although when I have
Speaker 1: to say that now, it's like streaming bringing back the
Speaker 1: show everywhere, Like, wouldn't it be so cool if Hulu did,
Speaker 1: like we did a version with Hulu, or we did
Speaker 1: a version with Disney Plus. So I'm throwing I'm putting
Speaker 1: that out there in the universe that someone we should
Speaker 1: do the show again because people love the show.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, if you need anyone to like, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Give I'm going to get you in the pitch meetings.
Speaker 2: Give me. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do anything. I'll do anything to say that
Speaker 3: I could just had something to do with celebrity ghost stories.
Speaker 3: So I appreciate that because right now it's where is it?
Speaker 3: Disney Plus, Hulu, Amazon, YouTube?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure other places, but that's yeah, just they
Speaker 1: just launched it on Disney Plus, which I thought was
Speaker 1: so weird in the beginning, but and only seasons five
Speaker 1: and six. I don't know what what you know what
Speaker 1: like contractual deals are made behind the scenes too, you know,
Speaker 1: because the networks do all that, all that fun business stuff.
Speaker 1: But I think you can see most of the episodes
Speaker 1: on Hulu. I think they're still on Amazon. I think
Speaker 1: you know, on A and E or actually like Lifetime
Speaker 1: or LMA on their YouTube page you could you could
Speaker 1: watch it. So there's a lot of places to still
Speaker 1: watch it.
Speaker 2: So have you had experiences of your own?
Speaker 1: I I had one experience. I can't say it's the greatest,
Speaker 1: you know, like this is the thing that convinced me,
Speaker 1: but it was spooky. So we were doing it was
Speaker 1: season two. We were doing the recreation for the Marilyn
Speaker 1: Manson story.
Speaker 2: Yep, I remember, and so part.
Speaker 1: Of the story is that, you know, it takes place
Speaker 1: when he's in high school and he, you know, is
Speaker 1: starting to get into weird stuff and satanic reading and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and so we were recreating this satanic setups.
Speaker 1: It's a Satanic ritual in a in a barn. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was his I think like his brother
Speaker 1: was doing all this week crazy satanic stuff and it
Speaker 1: was you know, the hintograms and smeared blood. I mean,
Speaker 1: none of it's real, of course, it was just a
Speaker 1: recreation and a fake pig hanging upside down, like just
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. And we're in this barn and it's really spooky,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're getting ready for a shot. Everybody's
Speaker 1: setting things up in the art director and everything, and
Speaker 1: I was directing that recreation and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I felt a hand on my shoulder and it was
Speaker 1: but it was so real, you know, like I could
Speaker 1: feel five fingers literally on my shoulder, and it just
Speaker 1: felt like it was someone who was kind of grabbing
Speaker 1: me to you know, gently turn me around to ask
Speaker 1: me a question or something. And I turned around and
Speaker 1: I mean literally like the hands of turned me, and
Speaker 1: there was no one for like twenty feet weird. I mean,
Speaker 1: no one. And this is not like like wind brushing
Speaker 1: across like it wasn't. It was a absolutely a physical
Speaker 1: hands But when I turned and I turned quickly, there
Speaker 1: was no one. I mean, there was no one remotely
Speaker 1: close enough to have touched me. In that moment. That
Speaker 1: really freaked me out. I think, you know, partly because
Speaker 1: we're recreating a Satanic ritual. In that moment, there were
Speaker 1: a lot of weird things, so I didn't have that many.
Speaker 1: There was a couple other times, maybe like I felt
Speaker 1: like I saw something, but I wasn't one hundred percent sure,
Speaker 1: But there were several crew members who had full on
Speaker 1: paranormal experiences. It was always during filming of crazy recreations.
Speaker 3: Do you think that it was connected to the locations
Speaker 3: or is this an example of talking about ghost stuff?
Speaker 3: And then the ghosts are like did someone say our name?
Speaker 1: We always seemed to find out after the fact that
Speaker 1: we were filming in haunted locations. Now we're like, we're
Speaker 1: picking locations to be honest, just because we you know,
Speaker 1: it's a good price, right, So you know, we're out
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere life. We should shoot a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff on Staten Islands, and there's all these
Speaker 1: like abandoned buildings and old penitentiaries and you know, old
Speaker 1: like naval schools that now no one lives in. So
Speaker 1: those were perfect for recreations, and also you can get
Speaker 1: them kind of cheap. And so we would set up
Speaker 1: camp and shoot there for a few days or a week,
Speaker 1: and that's where a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 1: people on the crew had experiences. And then of course,
Speaker 1: you know you would It was funny because it's like, right,
Speaker 1: a ghost story right out of one of our celebrity
Speaker 1: ghost stories, like after the the stuff happened, like the
Speaker 1: caretaker of the old penitentiary would say, oh, yeah, we've
Speaker 1: had hundreds of reports of you know, of three ghosts
Speaker 1: that like to, you know, bite at people's ankles when
Speaker 1: they're walking through the basement. I mean, whatever, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: So that was always weird, and it was always like
Speaker 1: were we drawn to those places? Are we going there?
Speaker 1: And because we're talking about ghosts, we're stirring things up.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, but there were there were
Speaker 1: a few crew members who would work on a season
Speaker 1: and then knock them back the next season.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the next spinoff Celebrity ghost Stories stories,
Speaker 3: and it's crew members doing there's there's recreations of the recreations.
Speaker 2: It's very magic.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. You know what we
Speaker 1: should add also know, now everybody's like talking about VR
Speaker 1: and Netta and like those Oculus glasses, you know, all
Speaker 1: the all that like virtual reality stuff. Now we should
Speaker 1: do celebrity ghost story stories behind the scenes, but in
Speaker 1: virtual reality. So now now you put on the goggles
Speaker 1: and you're you're literally living the experience. That's the scary
Speaker 1: crew members.
Speaker 2: That's too scary.
Speaker 3: That's what I was talking to Kyle, my producer, right
Speaker 3: before you came on the Zoom. We were talking about
Speaker 3: the show and he had just started watching it and
Speaker 3: he's like, it's scary, like to watch alone at nighttime
Speaker 3: and to hear the whisper at nighttime. I can't tell
Speaker 3: you how many years I'd watched the show, because I
Speaker 3: watched it when it was originally on and I've seen
Speaker 3: it many times since. But I've had so many times
Speaker 3: where I'm like watching it and then I hear that
Speaker 3: damn whisper and we're getting into it, the sound design,
Speaker 3: all of it, and I'm like, you know what, I
Speaker 3: don't I can't do this tonight. Yeah, so you're master
Speaker 3: of horror at seth Georgette.
Speaker 1: We had a great team, and like I said, it
Speaker 1: was a very small team, but that also benefited the show.
Speaker 1: You know, we had, you know, most of the credit
Speaker 1: for all of the scary came down to our director
Speaker 1: of photography who you know who shot so I mean
Speaker 1: hundreds of episodes. His name was Tim Smith. We had
Speaker 1: an editor named Tim Dixon. I feel like I have
Speaker 1: to give them shout outs, and he really this editor
Speaker 1: along with a couple others, a great editor named Karen,
Speaker 1: but this guy, Tim Dixon, was the master of sound
Speaker 1: design and creating you know, all the little flashes. And
Speaker 1: you know, one thing that a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: they see it, but they don't really know what they're seeing,
Speaker 1: is that we also would take thousands and thousands of
Speaker 1: photographs during the recreations while we were filming, and so
Speaker 1: if you go back now now you'll see it. It
Speaker 1: probably just felt like this spooky effect that you and
Speaker 1: you kind of didn't really know. You just felt the eeriness.
Speaker 1: But a lot of the success visually of the show
Speaker 1: was that we used to intercut video and these photographs
Speaker 1: and sort of seamlessly work them together. So we had
Speaker 1: actual photographers who would work on the show. We had,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of producers, Kathy Watson Andrea DeBrito.
Speaker 1: They were people who would produce the photograph sort of unit. Again,
Speaker 1: the unit was like one person, but that was a
Speaker 1: huge sort of visual part of the show. So, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just one of those shows where we were like,
Speaker 1: let's just let's just mess around and try tricks and
Speaker 1: what's scary. And we used to watch hundreds of you know,
Speaker 1: horror movie Travelers and kind of you know, steal slash
Speaker 1: be inspired by fun jump scares and things that we
Speaker 1: can incorporate into the show. And again, at the time,
Speaker 1: people were doing some ghost Hunter shows or they were
Speaker 1: doing some cheesy stuff, but no one was sort of
Speaker 1: doing what we were doing on TV. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's why so many people really liked it
Speaker 1: and remember it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and continue to like it.
Speaker 3: And people tell me all the time that I always
Speaker 3: get emails from people saying I heard about the show
Speaker 3: from you, and it's so good. And I'm hearing people
Speaker 3: all the time that just discovered it. Kyle just discovered it,
Speaker 3: he just started or he just started watching it. So
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's an audience that wants it. Do
Speaker 3: they want more?
Speaker 1: I have. I have a sixteen year old daughter, she's
Speaker 1: in high school, and she says now that some of
Speaker 1: her friends talk about the show and they just discovered it,
Speaker 1: you know, on Hulu or Disney or whatever it is. That.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the crazy thing about streaming, right. It
Speaker 1: used to be that a show is on, maybe it
Speaker 1: repeated a couple of times, and then that was it, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, it just it kind of went away until
Speaker 1: you know, repeats and now you can watch it in
Speaker 1: you know, ten different places, and so new audiences are finding,
Speaker 1: you know, this show and obviously lots of shows. So
Speaker 1: that's that's been really fun and rewarding to see. He's
Speaker 1: my daughter a little bit crazy. She hears her friends
Speaker 1: talking about my show, but you.
Speaker 3: Know, does she tell them like my dad's the one
Speaker 3: that does the whisper.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she knows, you know, And now
Speaker 1: I gotta tell her. I don't want to freak her out, like,
Speaker 1: you know, if she goes and you know, although she
Speaker 1: watches horror movies, so maybe she would think it would
Speaker 1: be it would be cool. But yeah, that's that's one
Speaker 1: of my claims to fame the Whisper.
Speaker 2: Seth. You have been so generous with your time.
Speaker 3: This has been a dream come true that I didn't
Speaker 3: even know I had. This is like the coolest thing.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize I was talking to the Whisper. I
Speaker 3: didn't realize. I mean, this is so great. Are there
Speaker 3: any other stories before you go that you would like
Speaker 3: to share about celebrity ghost stories?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well, let me here trivia question for you.
Speaker 1: Since you're since you're a fan.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Who is the only celebrity to have played themselves in
Speaker 1: the recreation? Oh, it only happened once. It was one
Speaker 1: of the more bizarre experiences of my life when he
Speaker 1: or she I won't tell you yet, called and said,
Speaker 1: I will only do the show if I get to
Speaker 1: play myself in the recreation, and I'll give you a
Speaker 1: little hint, and my two daughters have to be in
Speaker 1: the recreation.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know. I can't think of
Speaker 2: who that was.
Speaker 1: Rebecca de Mornay, Oh wow?
Speaker 2: And how many times did she do it?
Speaker 1: Like? She only did the show once?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: But her story was it took play. It started when
Speaker 1: she was a small child and she got very sick
Speaker 1: on a trip with her mom in Mexico, and she
Speaker 1: almost died, and these two little girl ghosts came to
Speaker 1: her while she was in the hospital. They were in
Speaker 1: Mexico City, but it was snowing, and these two little
Speaker 1: ghost girls were dancing around and they sort of gave
Speaker 1: her the light and the hope to come back to
Speaker 1: life because she was literally like hours from dying. Rebecca,
Speaker 1: and then she realized many years later, when she was
Speaker 1: with her children, and she saw that her daughter's in
Speaker 1: this same position that she saw these little girls you know,
Speaker 1: many years earlier. She realized that her unborn children had
Speaker 1: come to her yes when she was a child, and
Speaker 1: had saved her life. And so I mean again, it
Speaker 1: was just such a bizarre thing, Like she wanted to
Speaker 1: do the show, and we had never had anyone. Know,
Speaker 1: it's hard enough to get celebrities to sit down, like
Speaker 1: to ask them to be in their recreations. Never seemed
Speaker 1: like anything that seemed, you know, that seemed even remotely possible.
Speaker 1: And here's Rebecca de Morne, and again like talking you know,
Speaker 1: child of the eighties. You know, she was in risky business, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, she's like I probably had her poster up
Speaker 1: of my wall when I was fourteen, and now she
Speaker 1: won like I'm going to get to direct her. And
Speaker 1: so she flew out. We shot it on Long Island.
Speaker 1: She flew out with her daughters. She wanted her two
Speaker 1: daughters to be in it. We spent you know, usually
Speaker 1: we shoot the recreations for these stories in like literally
Speaker 1: in like five six hours, but because Rebecca was doing it,
Speaker 1: we dedicated like three full days to doing that one.
Speaker 1: Because we just really wanted it to be good. So
Speaker 1: that's one. Visually, like, I love it. It really feels like
Speaker 1: a mini movie. Go back and watch that one.
Speaker 2: It's okay, I have to.
Speaker 1: It's really good. And it's just it's so surreal seeing
Speaker 1: someone like Rebecca de Mornay in a recreation for for
Speaker 1: our show. But she was she was amazing. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't even like I'm a big star, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in your like. She just she was just excited
Speaker 1: to do it. She'd loved to tell the story. I
Speaker 1: think she was just excited to get like kind of
Speaker 1: expose her daughters to the you know, to like a
Speaker 1: mini version of the film world. And and and we
Speaker 1: did it, and it was that was a cool experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's so fascinating that the story involved them
Speaker 3: and yeah, right, wow.
Speaker 1: That was. But when we do the Celebrity Ghost Stories movie,
Speaker 1: we are going to have someone super famous playing themselves.
Speaker 1: That's the goal.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm trying to think of everyone that I've had
Speaker 3: that's been on there, and I know, okay, here's who
Speaker 3: I can think of off the top of my head,
Speaker 3: because I had a lot more when I first started
Speaker 3: the podcast. It was mainly me talking to celebrities about
Speaker 3: their ghost stories, and then it's more recently changed to
Speaker 3: just me having funny people on and we talk about ghosts.
Speaker 3: But it's still I still I love to have like
Speaker 3: a celebrity with a ghost story on.
Speaker 2: But people that I've had.
Speaker 1: You had, you had Wendy Wendy mclendy.
Speaker 2: Yes, right.
Speaker 1: I loved her story.
Speaker 3: I love her so much. We yes, we got to
Speaker 3: talk about that, which was amazing. I've had Cassandra Peterson
Speaker 3: actually I learned from her audio book. It's pronounced Cassandra Peterson.
Speaker 3: I've had Jay Rodriguez from Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.
Speaker 2: I've had so many.
Speaker 1: Bridger Marquard right, was doing her podcast. You did her podcast? No, no,
Speaker 1: I said, she's doing the podcast. Yeah, I imagine. I
Speaker 1: imagine that celebrity ghost stories helped sort of inspire her.
Speaker 3: Oh totally, she's all into that stuff. Yeah, she's been
Speaker 3: on the pod. I've been on hers.
Speaker 2: I love her. She's awesome. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've had so many people that have been on it,
Speaker 3: and I hope to have more. And Okay, now here's
Speaker 3: my next pitch. When you bring the show back if
Speaker 3: you want to do an after show or something like that,
Speaker 3: sign me up because I'm the mega fan over here.
Speaker 1: Wait, I didn't ask you. I feel bad. Do you
Speaker 1: have a story? Could you be on Celebrity ghost Story?
Speaker 2: I'm not a celebrity. Yeah, but what I mean, of course.
Speaker 1: You're a celebrity. What what DoD a celebrity mean? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1: People listen to you.
Speaker 3: I would that would be the craziest dream come true scenario.
Speaker 2: You're going to make it out, okay.
Speaker 3: And I will be the second celebrity to do their
Speaker 3: own recreation. Okay, great, And and I will be wearing
Speaker 3: a wig as myself in the recreation. I won't use
Speaker 3: my own hair. I want to wear a wig. Wait,
Speaker 3: you did other paranormal shows.
Speaker 1: Too, right, So we did, like The Haunting of Yes
Speaker 1: and another show that we did that I really loved,
Speaker 1: and it was sadly only one season. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's one of those shows that should be in season
Speaker 1: ten right now. It was called School.
Speaker 3: Spirits, okay, about haunted colleges and.
Speaker 1: Haunt colleges and most of the colleges, some high schools.
Speaker 1: That was on Sci Fi and then they sort of
Speaker 1: moved away a little bit from uh, from the paranormal,
Speaker 1: But that's a that's a good show, that was and
Speaker 1: very scary. That one even I think, takes the recreations
Speaker 1: and how scary they are to the next level and
Speaker 1: that's just a that's a good one. That one feels
Speaker 1: one step closer I think to a horror movie.
Speaker 3: Would you say, from talking to so many people and
Speaker 3: hearing their stories, has it changed your beliefs at all
Speaker 3: on this stuff?
Speaker 1: One hundred, one hundred percent. I would definitely think I'm
Speaker 1: in the I'm in the middle, leaning towards believer, And
Speaker 1: I would say before I did these shows, I was
Speaker 1: somewhere between like total skeptic and maybe believer, but but absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, look, I'm one of those people where I
Speaker 1: you know, I want, I want something to happen right
Speaker 1: in front of my face so that I can I
Speaker 1: can say definitively. But but I would say that I
Speaker 1: have heard I've watched and heard so many people. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't you I said before, you know when people
Speaker 1: are making something up, and you know when they're believe
Speaker 1: it to their core, like when they're literally shaking, and
Speaker 1: I don't care, like how good of an actor you are.
Speaker 1: But when you can see when you see someone shaking
Speaker 1: and their voice quivering because they're scared to say something,
Speaker 1: either because they're afraid to relive it or because they're
Speaker 1: afraid that they may be speaking directly to a spirit,
Speaker 1: which again some people do believe. When you see that
Speaker 1: over and over and over, you have to believe that
Speaker 1: there is there's something that is there's something out there.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, you know, but there
Speaker 1: is definitely something that is happening that I would love
Speaker 1: to learn more about.
Speaker 2: But that's the fun of it. We can't well never.
Speaker 1: Know, or maybe we will. Maybe I do not.
Speaker 3: I don't want to know, because that is not fun.
Speaker 3: It's not mysterious. It's just just stuff that happens. Like no,
Speaker 3: I like to hear. I like to get spooked and
Speaker 3: ponder what could that possibly be? Well, seth, this has
Speaker 3: just been an iconic day. Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: doing this. This is the best Christmas pres.
Speaker 1: I want to keep talking to you. Can we do
Speaker 1: this like every No, Actually, maybe I'll just call you
Speaker 1: late one night and whisper.
Speaker 3: My God, Yes, okay, wait, or do my voicemail.
Speaker 2: You'll raged rouss.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to do that. I might need a
Speaker 1: little help from my from my sound designer, but but
Speaker 1: I could. I could definitely do that for you. Definitely.
Speaker 3: Well, is there anything you want to tell the listeners
Speaker 3: where they can watch anything or anything else going on.
Speaker 1: Just you know, celebrity watch the stories like you know,
Speaker 1: post and comment and let's just like, let's get this back,
Speaker 1: let's get it back on the air, and and that
Speaker 1: would be that would be so much fun because there's
Speaker 1: so many people out there that still have stories to tell.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I just like I started before, I
Speaker 1: just I I so appreciate your support of the show.
Speaker 1: And it makes me so so happy that that you
Speaker 1: have enjoyed it and that you've talked about it on
Speaker 1: the podcast. It's literally like it you've you've you've made
Speaker 1: You've made my year. You really have for us.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so happy we met. This is amazing.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much to Seth. What a magical experience
Speaker 3: that was getting to meet him. And I hope we
Speaker 3: stay in touch. This one we recorded over zoom and
Speaker 3: so I don't have a video version of it. I
Speaker 3: pretty much only have those if we do it in person,
Speaker 3: so you cannot find a video version of.
Speaker 2: It on YouTube, But.
Speaker 3: Next week I have one in studio that I will
Speaker 3: be putting up on YouTube, and all those other recent
Speaker 3: in person ones you can find on YouTube as well.
Speaker 3: The link to that is in the description of this episode,
Speaker 3: as well as the Patreon, which has stuff from the
Speaker 3: past few years and nothing current at this very moment.
Speaker 3: I just stopped at the beginning of the year, but
Speaker 3: there's tons of stuff on there. If you want to
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Speaker 3: Just put in the subject line listener episode and some
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Speaker 2: You all both living and dead.
Speaker 3: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
Speaker 3: haunt me. Hey bye.
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