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Speaker 1: season thirteen, episode number forty five. Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of The Break. I'm Derrek Eagleton, joined by the normal crew. Here.
Speaker 1: We were live at s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: It's the twenty seventh of September. So I'm so thrown off.
Speaker 1: You know. Yesterday a fan tweeted me like, did you
Speaker 1: just say it was Monday? And I did I say
Speaker 1: it was Monday? I'm so thrown off. It is Wednesday,
Speaker 1: September twenty seventh to the seventeen. We welcome to a show,
Speaker 1: and welcome to the show. We appreciate you guys taking
Speaker 1: some time with us today. Talk a little Cowboys football.
Speaker 1: How's everybody feeling this morning? Doing really well? Erica? But
Speaker 1: are the episodes right? I mean, yes, the episode I
Speaker 1: know is right because I updated that on the plane.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm pretty sure. I think I updated that
Speaker 1: on the plane. Good show. Let's have a good show.
Speaker 1: Let's see did you guys see Donald Trump's tweet this morning? Wow?
Speaker 1: Starting right off of that, No, I did not see Donald.
Speaker 1: I just saw Jones. Yeah. I spoke to Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys yesterday. Jerry is a winner who
Speaker 1: knows how to get things done. Players will stand for country.
Speaker 1: We've got the live audio on that. We're gonna play
Speaker 1: it later. No, we do, We absolutely do not. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that story is gonna keep keep rolling it. Um,
Speaker 1: let's let's get into some football. Um. This is a yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a tricky obviously it's a tricky thing. But just
Speaker 1: the fact that, like all these other talk about Jerry
Speaker 1: and Goodell and now you've got Goodell and Trump, it's
Speaker 1: like which side are we taking here? And like which
Speaker 1: stands he is he trying to really go after? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know where this whole thing is
Speaker 1: gonna end up, But I don't know. We'll stay tuned,
Speaker 1: but for right now, we're going to spend the next
Speaker 1: hour talking about football and uh and this just kind
Speaker 1: of dag dig into these cowboys. Let's start first with
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. Yesterday we find out I guess it was
Speaker 1: this morning, maybe we find out that Lawrence is it
Speaker 1: was named that the NFL's defensive Player of the Week,
Speaker 1: and we talked yesterday about about how well he's playing.
Speaker 1: But I think for an honor like this, it kind
Speaker 1: of when you look across the league right now, statistically
Speaker 1: it's best defensive end in all football. Bro's. I mean
Speaker 1: the stats show that. I mean, I don't think I
Speaker 1: would call him the best defensive end in football, but
Speaker 1: artistically yeah yeah, and statistically yeah. And Golf is one
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league statistically. But but
Speaker 1: he's he's been better than the stats. And that's what
Speaker 1: I think is the most impressive part he His stats
Speaker 1: are the best in the league, but he's been better
Speaker 1: than that because he's had a half sack taken away,
Speaker 1: he's had another sack taken away, he's been around another
Speaker 1: play that looked, you know, that was close to a sack.
Speaker 1: He's almost had interceptions, He's had a lot of tackles
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. He's getting a lot of
Speaker 1: hits on the pressures on the quarterback. I mean, he
Speaker 1: has been the most disruptive player we've seen, you know,
Speaker 1: and Irving did it for a half against Tampa. You know,
Speaker 1: Irving showed some flashes. He has been the most dominant
Speaker 1: player we've seen since about since Drew Brees was running
Speaker 1: for his life when DeMarcus Ware was going to get
Speaker 1: him back at oh nine or two. And you know
Speaker 1: that that area for DeMarcus Ware, it's been this has
Speaker 1: been impressive. But you got to keep it up though.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's why he's not you know, the
Speaker 1: JJ Watt and those guys. I mean, they do it
Speaker 1: every single week. You know, he's got to keep doing that.
Speaker 1: But man, it's a great time for Irving to come
Speaker 1: back too fresh. And not this week obviously, but the
Speaker 1: next week, come back fresh. I'm wondering, and I'm very
Speaker 1: interested to see over the next several weeks how much
Speaker 1: one team start doing more things to disrupt him. So, now,
Speaker 1: how does he play when he has to live in
Speaker 1: a world of double teams and chips and all that.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about DeMarcus Lawrence, Because teams are gonna start
Speaker 1: paying more attention to him. And the flip side of that,
Speaker 1: who else on this defensive line is gonna have opportunities?
Speaker 1: Isn't going to take advantage of those opportunities to step
Speaker 1: up and beat one guy to get to the quarterback?
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Crawford? Obviously we saw Mollie Collins
Speaker 1: have those two sacks last week, and he's been consistent,
Speaker 1: I think since last year. But on the other side,
Speaker 1: are you, Vincent Mayo, are you're gonna see tackle Charlton?
Speaker 1: I mean, the question becomes is tackle even the best guy,
Speaker 1: does Tapper get a shot? And it's Tapper have the
Speaker 1: ability to beat that one guy. They're gonna be opportunities
Speaker 1: for other guys across this line because the way that
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is right now he's going to do, it's
Speaker 1: going to force other teams to pay more attention to him,
Speaker 1: which is going to create opportunities for other guys. Can
Speaker 1: they step up? Well, you know he's he's so good
Speaker 1: at the at the left defensive end spot going up
Speaker 1: against you know, those right tackles, and so I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone was gonna would ever change what they do
Speaker 1: to try to block him, you know, the switch switch
Speaker 1: to your left tackle over to your right tackle. But
Speaker 1: it's kind of it is an interesting dynamic that you
Speaker 1: know when you when you have a strong rusher like
Speaker 1: that off the left end, and most teams have their
Speaker 1: best left tackle over there, so you're not really going
Speaker 1: to have that that which is I think an advantage
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Yeah, you know, and now that means
Speaker 1: they got it. They got to dedicate a tight end,
Speaker 1: they have to get a running back to Chip, they
Speaker 1: got other things that they'll have to do in their
Speaker 1: offense in order to account for him on that side.
Speaker 1: And that's where additional opportunities are created for other guys. Yep,
Speaker 1: I know he's ready for the Rams part eating the way. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's getting ready. So one more thing before we get
Speaker 1: to that, and we are going to talk about the
Speaker 1: Rams and the day. We're going to focus in on
Speaker 1: the Rams offense versus the Cowboys defense, and Dave's gonna
Speaker 1: give us a scouting report that he's feverishly putting together
Speaker 1: right now. But before we get to that, I did
Speaker 1: want to get an update on Sean Lee and Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 1: Coach Garrett yesterday said both had hamstring injuries from the game.
Speaker 1: What do we know is there a do we have
Speaker 1: a statush report on where they are at this point
Speaker 1: and kind of what's going to be happening throughout this
Speaker 1: week to get them ready to play. Thought me, if
Speaker 1: you've heard this before, day to day, they're gonna take
Speaker 1: him day by day. It's day by day that sounds
Speaker 1: reading between the lines, that sounds like Jordan Lewis's deal
Speaker 1: is not as serious as Sean Lee's. Okay, Jordan, that's
Speaker 1: a good thing. Jordan was feeling tightness in his hamstring
Speaker 1: and they decided to pull him out for the last
Speaker 1: couple possessions of the game. Shawn Lee I think might
Speaker 1: have actually tweaked it. However, Shawn Lee's what eighth year
Speaker 1: All Pro, seventh year All Pro linebackers, So typically, you know,
Speaker 1: going back to the Odell Beckham conversation from week one,
Speaker 1: I tend to give the nod toward that guy to
Speaker 1: find a way to get himself ready, more so than
Speaker 1: the rookie who's playing his third game. I was convinced
Speaker 1: he went down just to stop the clock. It looked well,
Speaker 1: it really couldn't tell, right because he kind of tried
Speaker 1: to get off. He was sitting and he looked like
Speaker 1: he was hurt, and then he looked like he tried
Speaker 1: to jog off the field and then he realized that
Speaker 1: wasn't worth it, so it did. It looked like he
Speaker 1: was hurt to me, but that's because I had my
Speaker 1: eye on him before he got up, So it looks
Speaker 1: I don't know, hamstrings are tricky. Like it doesn't look
Speaker 1: bad because he ultimately wound up kind of jogging off
Speaker 1: the field, but you know how those things go. So
Speaker 1: I bet, well, nobody's going to practice today. Today is
Speaker 1: essentially a walkthrough. I bet she's not going to practice tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so it'll be one of those scenarios where you're looking
Speaker 1: at him on Friday to see what he's doing. And
Speaker 1: the same thing probably goes for Jordan, because, like I said,
Speaker 1: he's a rookie. He's had hamstring problems for most of
Speaker 1: the time he's been here. He said it is the
Speaker 1: same hamstring as the one that was bothering him in
Speaker 1: training camp. So probably need to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: both of them as the week goes along. Because the
Speaker 1: same thing happened to the Cheeto and then he got
Speaker 1: hurt again in the Denver game, and then he obviously
Speaker 1: didn't play last week. And it doesn't sound like he's
Speaker 1: they're gonna him or no, only Carroll are gonna be
Speaker 1: ready to play this week. I mean us don't rule
Speaker 1: him out. But Garrett pretty much said yesterday he said,
Speaker 1: doesn't look overly positive for them, were too optimistic or
Speaker 1: something like. It doesn't look like if I were a
Speaker 1: betting man, I wouldn't bet on Cheeto or Carol or Carol.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this question. And I know
Speaker 1: these injuries are different. Obviously, can't say just because it's
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury it's the same thing. And talking about
Speaker 1: Cheeto right now, but I know, Nick, you made the
Speaker 1: point a couple of weeks ago. Is it a smart
Speaker 1: move to just go ahead and sit Cheeto for a
Speaker 1: while because of this hamstring injury is recurring? Well, if
Speaker 1: that's the case, should that be the consideration at least
Speaker 1: to some degree With Jordan Lewis because he says it's
Speaker 1: the same hamstring and maybe maybe it wasn't an injury
Speaker 1: like Dave said, maybe it was more just tightness and
Speaker 1: in which case there wasn't a tweak and so maybe
Speaker 1: you don't feel like you need to sit him. But
Speaker 1: if this is going to be an ongoing thing and
Speaker 1: the only thing you can do to help it is rest,
Speaker 1: doesn't make more sense just to give him just straight rest. Well,
Speaker 1: when I said that about Cheetoh, I was talking about
Speaker 1: maybe doing a roster spot, I mean with a with
Speaker 1: an I R type of move, because they cleared they
Speaker 1: knocked him out so quickly into the game like you're out,
Speaker 1: as like this is probably a severe enough thing where
Speaker 1: it's going to take some time. What I would do
Speaker 1: now is whatever they're gonna do for David Irving, I
Speaker 1: would do it this week, whatever move is they're gonna make,
Speaker 1: I think I would. I would release that player or
Speaker 1: move him off the roster this week and bring up
Speaker 1: Marquez White to the roster, then probably move Mark White
Speaker 1: off the roster and hoping one of these corners backs
Speaker 1: is ready for the next week and then you've already
Speaker 1: got that spot for David Derby. That's that's such a
Speaker 1: that actually doesn't mean that is such a good next
Speaker 1: level idea that I wonder if maybe you had a
Speaker 1: conversation I swear I didn't. You do have to wonder
Speaker 1: that with Nick. I mean, it's a great but there's
Speaker 1: a shower. I thought about that in the shower. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't care if I thought it was a conversation
Speaker 1: in the shower. That doesn't I don't. Who would think
Speaker 1: that sounds weird? If you don't know that you have
Speaker 1: your best ideas in the shower, then no, No, I
Speaker 1: thought that you said. I thought he was saying he
Speaker 1: had a conversation in the shower. And that's why I
Speaker 1: was like with Jamal Showers's back on the practice squad.
Speaker 1: So we all three took something to me different. Jamil
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, they're probably gonna move. They're probably gonna
Speaker 1: move to Mark Quay. I'm here. Nick's like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing in my shower? Yeah? All right, let's um,
Speaker 1: let's get into this this talk on the Rams versus
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Let's talk first about the Rams offense versus
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense. The one thing that that's ends out
Speaker 1: I think most about this Rams offense is offensively, they're
Speaker 1: scoring a ton of points right now, they're good. Now, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know that's the and that's really the question,
Speaker 1: because they've scored a ton of points. But most of
Speaker 1: those points were done in two games against teams that
Speaker 1: you don't really think are among the best in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and so and so, I guess my question for you, Davis,
Speaker 1: give us a scouting report, and then I want all
Speaker 1: of us to chime in on how much do you
Speaker 1: respect what they've done in these games, knowing that the
Speaker 1: opponents they mainly did it against were not among the
Speaker 1: NFL's best teams, first of all in my opinion. And
Speaker 1: I get that they're two wins or against San Francisco
Speaker 1: and Indy, both of whom I think will be top
Speaker 1: ten draft pick candidates. It's still the NFL. This isn't
Speaker 1: college football. I don't care about that. You beat, you
Speaker 1: score forty points on somebody, it's pretty good. You beat
Speaker 1: somebody as badly as they beat the Colts, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: They're one losses to the Redskins, which you know that's
Speaker 1: probably a playoff caliber at least gonna be in the
Speaker 1: Hunt type of team. They or twenty points, so that
Speaker 1: kind of gives you a little bit of an indicator
Speaker 1: of what we're dealing with here. Having said that, it's
Speaker 1: really impressive what they're doing, considering how hapless they looked
Speaker 1: last year to start off this LA era because Jared
Speaker 1: Goff through three games has a quarterback rating of one eighteen.
Speaker 1: He's completing seventy percent of his passes. He's averaging ten
Speaker 1: yards per tempt, so it's it's not like he's dinking
Speaker 1: and dunking. Oh, which leads the league? Which does lead? Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody's nobody's up that high. He's got three receivers who
Speaker 1: are averaging a lot of yards per catch, one of
Speaker 1: whom I really want to talk about because he's a
Speaker 1: draft show guy. But Sammy Watkins, who you might remember
Speaker 1: from Buffalo, He's averaging like fifteen yards per catch, had
Speaker 1: two touchdowns on this last game. I believe he kind
Speaker 1: of started slow, but I mean thirteen catches for two
Speaker 1: hundred yards and two touchdowns through three games is pretty
Speaker 1: solid start. Robert Woods, who they also got from Buffalo
Speaker 1: and enough, he's averaging seventeen yards per reception, so downfield
Speaker 1: type of and he's a big downfield type of receiver. Actually,
Speaker 1: two draft show guys, because remember we talked a lot
Speaker 1: about Evan Ingram in the season opener. Gerald Everett is
Speaker 1: the same type of dude, same type of like why
Speaker 1: tight end who gets off the line, who's an athletic
Speaker 1: guy South Alabama, kind of an under the radar guy.
Speaker 1: He's averaging thirty three yards per catch. Doesn't many catches yet,
Speaker 1: four but all of I mean four catches. Four catches
Speaker 1: for one hundred and thirty four yards. He's not your
Speaker 1: Jason Witten you know, on the line tight end, but
Speaker 1: he's an athletic mismatch guy. It's goot Byron Jones written
Speaker 1: all over it. It's something they're gonna have to look
Speaker 1: out for. And then my guy, Cooper cup who was
Speaker 1: maybe my favorite receiver in this past draft. Who you know,
Speaker 1: he can play outside, he can play inside. People think
Speaker 1: he's like a Wes Welker type because he's white, but
Speaker 1: he's really not. He's just a very versatile, very dynamic receiver.
Speaker 1: He scored in the preseason game against the Cowboys. If
Speaker 1: you remember on that play that Anthony Hitchins forced the
Speaker 1: fumble on the goal line, he recovered the ball. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's got nine catches for one hundred and twenty six
Speaker 1: yards through and a touchdown. Just like a solid, versatile,
Speaker 1: possession guy who can play anywhere they want him to.
Speaker 1: Basically they are seventh in offense, sixth in passing offense.
Speaker 1: I haven't even mentioned Todd Gurley, which is crazy because
Speaker 1: you would think that he's and obviously, you know they
Speaker 1: want to give him a lot of touches. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was Zeke the year before Zeke went. He's the
Speaker 1: top ten pick. He's getting twenty one touches a game.
Speaker 1: But just like Zeke, it doesn't look like it's going
Speaker 1: so easily for him. They're passing the ball well, but
Speaker 1: he's averaging three point eight yards per carry. He's got
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty one yards through three games, but
Speaker 1: he's also got sixty four carries, so I kind of
Speaker 1: wonder if they're going to try to get that crank
Speaker 1: in a little bit more. The big thing that' stands
Speaker 1: out to me. He's got thirteen catches for one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty yards and two touchdowns through three games, so
Speaker 1: catching the ball. They're using him in the passing game
Speaker 1: the way that I want the Cowboys to use Zeke.
Speaker 1: I know Zeke probably has close to that many receptions
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, he's probably got nine, ten, eleven,
Speaker 1: But has he had more than twenty receiving yards in
Speaker 1: a game so far, I don't think so. So he's
Speaker 1: leading their team in receptions right now, he's leading the
Speaker 1: rams up Gurley exactly and rushing definitely in rushing. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like you were talking about those receivers,
Speaker 1: he's caught more balls than any of the receivers has.
Speaker 1: Like they use him a lot in their passing game.
Speaker 1: He is the most integral part of their I think
Speaker 1: of their offense right and so well. I think it
Speaker 1: would probably this is my cliche that I use for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys all the time, which is that Zeke is
Speaker 1: kind of the engine that makes it all go. I
Speaker 1: think they probably want to base everything they do around
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, but the difference between this team being any
Speaker 1: good and not is clearly Jared Goff, which you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I'm surprised by him playing
Speaker 1: well because he was the number one overall pick in
Speaker 1: the draft, but he looked so bad last year that
Speaker 1: I have no choice but to give a ton of
Speaker 1: credit to Sean McVeigh because that was kind of his
Speaker 1: that was kind of his reputation when they hired him,
Speaker 1: is that he's the guy that helped Kirk Cousins become
Speaker 1: a franchise tag caliber guy and all I mean, Goff
Speaker 1: looks great. That's that's the big takeaway that I have.
Speaker 1: And again, I mean, can you can talk to me
Speaker 1: about the quality of the opponents all you want, but
Speaker 1: they're two in one and he's playing lights out right now.
Speaker 1: So what this will probably be? Cowboys saw the Rams.
Speaker 1: DeMarco ran all over him in twenty eleven, they beat
Speaker 1: him up in twenty thirteen, they played him in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: This will be the best Rams team that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have seen in the last five or six years. I
Speaker 1: would guess, all right, let's take a break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, I'm gonna tell you two things that scare
Speaker 1: me about this Rams offense as a Cowboys observer, and
Speaker 1: I want to get your opinions on whether you think
Speaker 1: it's legitimate or not. We'll come right back. This is
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's the second segment of the Breaklock from
Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star, and we're talking
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys defense versus the Rams offense. They'll take
Speaker 1: the Cowboys take on the Rams this Sunday. It'll be
Speaker 1: a noon game. It's the only noon game other than
Speaker 1: the final game of the season, which I think they
Speaker 1: probably schedule all teams at next until they decide how
Speaker 1: they're gonna play that out. Cowboys and Eagles have a
Speaker 1: good season, there's a good bet that this will be
Speaker 1: the only noon game of the year. And the way
Speaker 1: things look right now, that could be a game of consequence.
Speaker 1: It certainly looks that way to get to the playoffs early,
Speaker 1: and then you have to play like a ten thirty
Speaker 1: game or something like that for TV ten thirty, something
Speaker 1: like that eleven am. Unless you're not it won't be
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys playing on that time were not played
Speaker 1: at eleven am in the playoffs in Minnesota. We definitely
Speaker 1: did I know that like our first year yep, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought you met O nine. Oh, this would have
Speaker 1: been when you were five Dallas. That might have been
Speaker 1: pretty early too. The Cowboys are a lock for the
Speaker 1: three thirty playoff game, I don't. I mean, there's just
Speaker 1: a Sunday afternoon. Why are we talking about the playoffs
Speaker 1: right now? As I said it? Or all right? So
Speaker 1: here's what I want to do. I have a couple
Speaker 1: of things that that I think if you're a Cowboys
Speaker 1: fan probably should worry you a little bit about facing
Speaker 1: this Rams team. And I'm gonna throw them out there,
Speaker 1: and then I want you guys to tell me if
Speaker 1: I'm way off base or if you think this is
Speaker 1: a legitimate I think the first thing is when you
Speaker 1: look at this offense, to me, it kind of seems
Speaker 1: like it's a culmination of the two offenses that had
Speaker 1: given Cowboys problems this year. They only had three games,
Speaker 1: but in two those games there were two specific things.
Speaker 1: One against Denver, they ran the ball well and they
Speaker 1: completed a high percentage of their passes and their receivers
Speaker 1: were able to just make plays after they got the
Speaker 1: ball in their hands. And then against Arizona, the big play,
Speaker 1: and that's been something that has been that Arizona does well.
Speaker 1: We saw in the first drive they had three I
Speaker 1: think they had three explosive plays in the first drive
Speaker 1: alone of twenty yards plus. That all being said, that's
Speaker 1: the first thing. The second thing is the one team
Speaker 1: that shut them down. I'm starting to get more respect
Speaker 1: for that defense. Washington is a team that if you
Speaker 1: watched them last Sunday night play against the Oakland Raiders,
Speaker 1: which I think most people considered to be one of
Speaker 1: the better offenses in the league, they absolutely shut the
Speaker 1: Raiders down and there was no question about it. Was
Speaker 1: kind of like the game between the Cowboys and the Broncos.
Speaker 1: They clearly beat them up and didn't allow them to
Speaker 1: do the things that they've been doing against teams going
Speaker 1: back to last season. Those two things make me think
Speaker 1: that Arizona's I'm sorry that that the Rams are much
Speaker 1: better than just saying, hey, well, the only team they know,
Speaker 1: the only team that they lost to was the Redskins.
Speaker 1: The Redskins are a really good team. I think I
Speaker 1: think so too. And so when you look at those
Speaker 1: two things, I think those are two things that should
Speaker 1: concern fans a little bit more. This is not a
Speaker 1: typical game Cowboys versus Rams, where you say it's the Rams, dude,
Speaker 1: like this is a much better team. I guess that's
Speaker 1: the point I was trying to make a minute ago,
Speaker 1: is that it's lazy and misinformed to think that it's
Speaker 1: the Rams, dude, and chill out that. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's gonna fly. I think when you're at the top
Speaker 1: of the draft for as long as the Rams have been,
Speaker 1: you have you can acquire some talent. We haven't, and
Speaker 1: we're going to get into their defense tomorrow because that's
Speaker 1: that's loaded yet. So this is a talented team, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying that they're going to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but I certainly don't think they're going to
Speaker 1: be out of contention by October, which is well it
Speaker 1: is October, they're not, so clearly they're not going They're
Speaker 1: not going to fade away. This is a team with
Speaker 1: a lot of talent and a promising young quarterback and
Speaker 1: they're you know, twenty eight year old head coach or
Speaker 1: thirty and he's like thirty one years old. He seems
Speaker 1: to know what he's doing. So if you're writing this
Speaker 1: off as the Rams, I think you're making a mistake.
Speaker 1: I'm making a mistake. Then they're gonna kick Yeah, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I know we wait till Friday. I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are going to absolutely kick their ass this week. I
Speaker 1: really do, thirty eight to seventeen, based on what, based
Speaker 1: on what, Based on the fact that I don't think
Speaker 1: the Rams can stop the Cowboys. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think they I don't think they can stop them. I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know their defense is good because they
Speaker 1: have Aaron Donald, but I mean it was Montana de
Speaker 1: rice slighting them up last week. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: understand why the Rams can score forty six points, a
Speaker 1: lot of it on defense against the Colts. The Colts
Speaker 1: are are atrocious right now. And then they played the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. The forty nine ers, when what? When
Speaker 1: did they get back? When did? When? Are they good?
Speaker 1: And then the Rams be them and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley's saying they're gonna whip up in the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I mean that, I think that's ridiculous. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think they'll come and play this game. I've seen
Speaker 1: this game a lot of times, this this noon kickoff game,
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Rams will have a chance.
Speaker 1: I really don't. I think it'll be a blowout. I
Speaker 1: think that's outdated thinking. And that's the point I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make, is that, you know, yeah, in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: this was a craptastic Rams team and the Cowboys beat
Speaker 1: him thirty test. They were awful. It was my third
Speaker 1: game covering this team. It was a noon game. DeMarco
Speaker 1: Murray did whatever he wanted too. It was pretty you're
Speaker 1: saying that that the Rams are different from that year. Absolutely, Okay,
Speaker 1: Well the Cowboys were eight and eight, Yeah they were,
Speaker 1: So I don't think the Cowboys will be eight and
Speaker 1: eighth that year. I mean this year. I just tell you,
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think they can. They'll
Speaker 1: be able to hold up with the Cowboys. With the
Speaker 1: running game, I think they'll be back on track. Sean
Speaker 1: Lee's injury will be will be big for this one.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if he doesn't practice all week, that
Speaker 1: could be a little bit of a factor. But I
Speaker 1: really I don't think it's what the Rams doing on
Speaker 1: offense I think what the Cowboys will do will absolutely
Speaker 1: control the game. I think golf will come down to
Speaker 1: earth and so so you're buying into the idea that
Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense, yep, is really good. Like you don't
Speaker 1: think it's an aberration what we saw necessarily in the
Speaker 1: first week and for most of the game last week.
Speaker 1: I think there was some moments early in the game
Speaker 1: where the defense will suspect, but yeah, really what you
Speaker 1: saw most of that game. In my opinion, I said
Speaker 1: this yesterday on the show. I think in two of
Speaker 1: the three games this season, the Cowboys defense has been
Speaker 1: the better unit. They've been unit that has been the
Speaker 1: reason why they've won those games. You're buying into that
Speaker 1: as going forward, I think the defense is going to
Speaker 1: be strong and be able to shut teams down or
Speaker 1: at least be able to limit teams to the point
Speaker 1: where Cowboys score seventeen, they win. But I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I think this game that's gonna be predicated on what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do offensively. I think the Cowboys offense is
Speaker 1: going to be the better unit this game. I think
Speaker 1: that they will be back in gear, they'll be running
Speaker 1: the ball. I think they'll be spreading around passing. I
Speaker 1: don't think you'll see Whitten and Beasley combined for four catches.
Speaker 1: I think you'll see a dominating performance by the Cowboys offense,
Speaker 1: and then that trickles down to Okay, go get Jared
Speaker 1: Goff and this guy didn't go stop him. If you
Speaker 1: can get up on him, you can take Gurly somewhat
Speaker 1: out of the game, even though he catches the ball.
Speaker 1: But I don't see it not this week. I don't
Speaker 1: want to spoil tomorrow's show, but this rams front seven
Speaker 1: looks equally equipped to slow down the Cowboys and what
Speaker 1: as good as Denver, No, I don't. I maintain what
Speaker 1: we said is that Denver is unique among the NFL defenses,
Speaker 1: and if the Cowboys can have success, it'll probably be
Speaker 1: spreading the ball around. What I'm trying to say is
Speaker 1: I don't know that Zeke is gonna get back to
Speaker 1: be in Zeke this week. Because there's talent on that
Speaker 1: front set, then when is that going to happen? I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean honestly, and this is not this
Speaker 1: is not a knock on Z because I thought Zeke
Speaker 1: the numbers don't say that he had a great week
Speaker 1: last week. But that was one of those games to
Speaker 1: me that makes the difference between a really good running
Speaker 1: back and a running back that's just okay, get eighty
Speaker 1: something yards against the way that in a situation of
Speaker 1: the way that that game was being presented, in the
Speaker 1: way the defense was playing. To me, those are a
Speaker 1: lot of hard nosed yards, and that's a good running
Speaker 1: back that he put up eighty three yards against that.
Speaker 1: I'll say it for the millionth time. It's a testament
Speaker 1: to how good he's been during his career that I
Speaker 1: look at that game as like, because that's really good
Speaker 1: effort for most NFL running backs. But when you average
Speaker 1: five point one yards a carry as a rookie, three
Speaker 1: point eight don't look that great. Yeah, But it's how
Speaker 1: you get the yards too, Like, I know, there were
Speaker 1: so many times when he got the ball and he
Speaker 1: hit the line of scrimmage and there were guys right
Speaker 1: there the line of scrimmage and he still made it
Speaker 1: a two or three yard guy. That's value. I completely
Speaker 1: agree with you. But he was dominant as a rookie
Speaker 1: and he just looks good right now. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's just the truth. So what game last year did
Speaker 1: you guys think was the first game where Zeke was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, that's that's that's the big Chicago
Speaker 1: Week three. I mean, and I know the sucked last year,
Speaker 1: but he ran all over him and he hurtled a
Speaker 1: guy for the first time and just looked like a stud.
Speaker 1: And then he followed that up by going sixty untouched
Speaker 1: against the Bengals. And then he followed that up by
Speaker 1: running for one sixty or whatever against the Packers, who
Speaker 1: were statistically the best run defense in football. When with
Speaker 1: San Francisco, was that actually I skipped one? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had I like that that week, but then then might
Speaker 1: take that was week what that was Week four? I
Speaker 1: want to say so Varl Bowman getting injured kind of
Speaker 1: was a big part of that game because then but
Speaker 1: in this second half, you know, he started kind of yeah,
Speaker 1: making some plays there. It was it was that late
Speaker 1: September early October. He has looked absolutely good through through
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he was awful against Denver, everybody was,
Speaker 1: but he ground out a hundred yards against a really
Speaker 1: good New York defense. He was resilient and tough and
Speaker 1: fought for everything. Against Arizona, he's been good. He has not.
Speaker 1: The running game hasn't looked as incredible as it did
Speaker 1: last year. It just hasn't. For whether that's because the
Speaker 1: offensive line is still jelly, or he's still getting his
Speaker 1: you know, feet underneath him, or these these defenses have
Speaker 1: just been that good. And I think, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll be wrong for the record, I will. I do
Speaker 1: expect the Cowboys to win this game, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be easy. Do you think that part
Speaker 1: of the issues with the running game is they're not
Speaker 1: getting enough push along the offensive line? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think that that's part of it. I mean, this
Speaker 1: isn't the first time we've seen eight man front. I
Speaker 1: mean they've been doing it all last year as well. Um,
Speaker 1: I think I think that that is an issue. But
Speaker 1: something I wanted to say that it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see how Dak's game Monday night will in moving forward,
Speaker 1: will kind of change what some defenses do. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've seen him throw on the run, but not as
Speaker 1: not as much as I thought he did in that game.
Speaker 1: You know, we're able to just roll out and kind
Speaker 1: of slinging a little bit. You know, teams are basically saying, Dak,
Speaker 1: you have to beat us with your arm, and he did.
Speaker 1: He did in that game, and and his receivers made
Speaker 1: plays for him. I mean, he gave Ryce a chance,
Speaker 1: he made the play game, Terrence a chance, and he
Speaker 1: just dumped it off the Des and then Des went
Speaker 1: him and Frederick just you know, plow through the defense.
Speaker 1: So I think that that they are saying the passing
Speaker 1: game has to beat us, and Dak showed in that
Speaker 1: game against the Cardinals that he can do that. But
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting to note it's not just going
Speaker 1: to be his arm that's gonna beat teams. He's on
Speaker 1: a combination arms and got to get out there. What
Speaker 1: makes him a really dynamic quarterback is his ability to
Speaker 1: move around, and I think on the run, some of
Speaker 1: the throws we've seen him made between last year and
Speaker 1: this year that he's made on the run are as good,
Speaker 1: if not better than some of the then his best
Speaker 1: throws in the pocket, Like the guy can throw the
Speaker 1: ball when he's running, and that's what makes him special.
Speaker 1: As Nick brought this up right at the end of
Speaker 1: the show, as memorable as the Bryce Butler players were,
Speaker 1: that's just chucking it up to a guy on one
Speaker 1: on one cover. His throw to Noah Brown was incredible, Yes,
Speaker 1: because he's moving, he's basically sprinting and just fires it
Speaker 1: in there to a guy with a defender draped on
Speaker 1: his back. It was his and it was on I
Speaker 1: mean like it was a laser like he shot it
Speaker 1: through to him. Who caught the ball? Um? I guess
Speaker 1: it was in the third quarter. He was rolling to
Speaker 1: his left right in front of the Cowboys bench, had
Speaker 1: the binoculars on him, and he I mean just rolling
Speaker 1: to the left and just didn't stop, set his feet
Speaker 1: and just throws it back on his body. I think
Speaker 1: it was Terrence Williams maybe at the sideline, remember thinking.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking it was like, that is a heck
Speaker 1: of a throw. Of course, Amber was like, no, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was a little wobbly, but it's early, right, but
Speaker 1: better the second half. I think it was the second half,
Speaker 1: but but it's just better throw in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: rolland left though, rolland left and and you know, throwing it.
Speaker 1: I mean that's Randall Cunningham style right there. I mean,
Speaker 1: being able to have the arm strength to do that. Uh,
Speaker 1: He's he's getting there. He's getting there with his arm
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean where he could go and make
Speaker 1: plays with his arm like that and his legs. I
Speaker 1: think that running game found a little something in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It was one of those things you just
Speaker 1: gotta keep pushing. Your defense has to allow you to
Speaker 1: stay in the game so you can keep doing that,
Speaker 1: and that's Denver. You couldn't just keep doing that because
Speaker 1: you're down twenty one. I did have a couple more
Speaker 1: questions about the Cowboys defense, particularly though matching up against
Speaker 1: the Rams. Yeah, if Jordan Lewis joins Cheetah Bay and
Speaker 1: Nolan Carroll kind of trouble ack, isn't this what they do?
Speaker 1: I know Nick said the possibility of trying to move up,
Speaker 1: move up a guy. But right now, do you think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, because they have gone into a game this
Speaker 1: year where they had four healthy cornerbacks, do you think
Speaker 1: they could go to this game and say, hey, we're
Speaker 1: okay with the idea of not bringing someone up and
Speaker 1: just rolling with the four we got. Well, if Jordan
Speaker 1: joins those guys on the inactive list, they wouldn't have
Speaker 1: You're talking about a scenario where you're just looking at
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods as a corner I have already kind of
Speaker 1: put him in and I know he plays safety but
Speaker 1: a lot of But the thing is he's in the
Speaker 1: slot so much. Is that it's It's just like I
Speaker 1: assume going into a game, if they don't have any
Speaker 1: other cornerbacks, they will just say he's in the slot
Speaker 1: all day. Xavier Woods is a pet cat of mine.
Speaker 1: We I'm not going to get into the whole draft
Speaker 1: show thing, but we were very much a big fan
Speaker 1: of him joining this team. I got I love watching
Speaker 1: him play great. Still don't want to go into a
Speaker 1: game with him as my fourth cornerback. That sounds is
Speaker 1: he not already playing at that right? But you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a it's a numbers standpoint, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you lose a guy in this game, then are
Speaker 1: you're gonna move Xavier Woods outside? Outside? Too? I just
Speaker 1: I just like to cover my bases. It was so
Speaker 1: bad in the Denver game that I was like asking
Speaker 1: you guys in the press box, like who could cover
Speaker 1: like Switzer Dz. I mean, who who can actually go
Speaker 1: out and be in cover someone? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think that Brown did it? Who Troy Brown? Trey Brown.
Speaker 1: That's why the only time I've ever so I said,
Speaker 1: maybe an offensive guy just flipped over to the defense
Speaker 1: and just played corner. It was that was thank you.
Speaker 1: I think it would be. I think it would be
Speaker 1: smarter to call up Marquez White or um. Is there
Speaker 1: another corner on the practice squad right now? Any seamster's
Speaker 1: not still here? Is he? I don't know. I would
Speaker 1: call somebody up because if Jordan Lewis can't go this week,
Speaker 1: then you're looking at Orlando, Anthony Brown, Ben Bene, bin Wickery,
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods. That's it, you know. Byron Jones also can
Speaker 1: slide down. We gotta we gotta throw him in there.
Speaker 1: You can't. Maybe they should, but yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to struggle this week. I think if
Speaker 1: they do win, it's gonna be because of their offense,
Speaker 1: not because of the defense. And looking at last week,
Speaker 1: I believe the Cowboys defensive line is their strongest point
Speaker 1: right now on defense. Yes, rushing the quarterback now, I
Speaker 1: think let's just let that sink in for thinking about
Speaker 1: what we thought of this team going into training camp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now look at him success. Pick pick your unit,
Speaker 1: but see us. I think the best special teams is
Speaker 1: maybe the only one that can compete. Let me let
Speaker 1: me throw it farther like across the entire team, if
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, So including offense, every is that
Speaker 1: the most productive on this team right now? It's not
Speaker 1: a debatable. That's a good point. But see, I think
Speaker 1: Golf can still play well even though when his pressure,
Speaker 1: I think he keeps his focus. Maybe in some place
Speaker 1: you'll mess him up a little bit, but I don't
Speaker 1: think you'll make that much of an impact right here
Speaker 1: unless they keep sacking him and stuff like that, but
Speaker 1: obviously that's not gonna happen all the time. Therefore, I
Speaker 1: think they'll have the ability to move that ball. And
Speaker 1: the secondary is not very not looking good right now
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, so I don't think he'll be such
Speaker 1: a good win from the defense. How do we how
Speaker 1: do we sorry, how do we get mark Quez White
Speaker 1: on the on the team? How would you get him
Speaker 1: on the team? I mean, because you can't do anything
Speaker 1: with the running back situation because the Zeke thing, they're
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna have another hearing after the Rams game, right, yes,
Speaker 1: or one more? This is what I find. This is
Speaker 1: the last game that we know for certain he's playing
Speaker 1: it's scheduled for Monday or Tuesday next week, and then
Speaker 1: after that if he's still playing. I think you could
Speaker 1: probably do something at running back if you needed to.
Speaker 1: But so how do you get that? Well, but here's
Speaker 1: the thing. They have that hearing next week. That doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily mean that that the court will come back with
Speaker 1: a decision, So so you might not. You still may
Speaker 1: not find out for weeks from now. That's there's no Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no real time frame on when the court actually
Speaker 1: comes back. I forget the running back position. Then how
Speaker 1: do you get a spot somewhere else? It would have
Speaker 1: to be Well, honestly, even not knowing, even not knowing
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Zeek, you could figure up a
Speaker 1: space at running back if you really, you could. There's
Speaker 1: six of them right now, right if you count Keith
Speaker 1: as a running back. Yeah, I think you think Rod
Speaker 1: and Keith. You think you could get by without Rod
Speaker 1: and Keith. I think you could get by without one
Speaker 1: of them. I don't want them to cut either one
Speaker 1: of them because I like those guys. But I mean
Speaker 1: you could if you had to. But I could make Fadden.
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? Who picks him up. I don't know,
Speaker 1: some I bet somebody would. I do too. I kind
Speaker 1: of think somebody would pick him up. Do you think
Speaker 1: someone would pick up Alford Morris? Probably? Probably there's somebody
Speaker 1: out there who's hurting it running back. I don't know
Speaker 1: who it is, but they're out there. Um. Otherwise, I
Speaker 1: mean if and I don't know, but if Cheeto's hamstring
Speaker 1: is that much of a problem, you could maybe do
Speaker 1: something with him other than that Carol's or Carol there's
Speaker 1: not there's not a ton to go when when Irving
Speaker 1: comes back. I mean, like, don't you think that one
Speaker 1: of those defensive linemen maybe, I mean, who who Brian Price?
Speaker 1: That's the only because they they I think we're playing
Speaker 1: him out the right. But that's not the worst idea
Speaker 1: when you see where you're going. Irving can play tackle,
Speaker 1: and I think Crawford could could just be a tackle.
Speaker 1: That's the only guy. Point, that's the only guy on
Speaker 1: that line that I would feel comfortable cutting for various
Speaker 1: reasons like so I don't know, um which, well, this
Speaker 1: is sort of related, But what I was going to say,
Speaker 1: going into Amber's point, if Sean Lee can't go in
Speaker 1: this game, that's super troubling to me for a variety
Speaker 1: of reasons. One the obvious, Sean Lee's the best thing
Speaker 1: about your run defense. He's amazing. He diagnoses like every
Speaker 1: play before the running back even gets the ball more
Speaker 1: often than not. And then number two, who the hell's
Speaker 1: playing linebacker if he can't play? Probably I was gonna
Speaker 1: say Durant is Durant and I slide in there. I
Speaker 1: know that's not his typical position, but if it were me,
Speaker 1: I would probably play Jalen at Mike and Damien at Will,
Speaker 1: just because I think Damien's more athletic, and I went
Speaker 1: him on the field. Yeah, and he flies around. I
Speaker 1: love Justin Durant, but I kind of like him as
Speaker 1: a situational guy. I don't know if I want him
Speaker 1: out there, you'd have to play Wilbur a lot. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you're thin as hell if some but he
Speaker 1: gets hurt too. I mean that's a good as he can't.
Speaker 1: He's a San Francisco forty nine ers. He would say
Speaker 1: you miss that. Yes, that happened on Monday, Ranking News
Speaker 1: that was big San Francisco signed King. News didn't know
Speaker 1: San Francisco signed him to their active that they didn't
Speaker 1: see it on our site? Is San Francisco forty nine?
Speaker 1: Was it on our site? Probably not. He's making that
Speaker 1: team look better maybe. Oh, you mean you know where
Speaker 1: he's going with Amber? Come on, you know where he's
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Speaker 1: first with a call I mean, I'm sorry with a
Speaker 1: question from Twitter. Do you guys think that Jason's knowledge
Speaker 1: of Phillip's system will help him in this match. I
Speaker 1: think you could say Wade's knowledge of Jason's system could
Speaker 1: help him as well. So I think that I think
Speaker 1: that whole that is a weekly overrated storyline. Somebody was
Speaker 1: tweeting me or emailed me back in Denver. That was
Speaker 1: like nobody's talking about how Ron Leary helping Broncos figure
Speaker 1: out that. I don't like you understand that NFL teams
Speaker 1: have whole staffs of people that break this stuff down
Speaker 1: weeks in advance. The Cowboys started looking at the Rams.
Speaker 1: Not Jason Garrett and his coaches, but Cowboys staffers started
Speaker 1: looking at the Rams. On Friday, they started watching tape
Speaker 1: of these games they've been you know, it's a first
Speaker 1: four week opponent, so this is definitely one of the
Speaker 1: teams that they were looking back in April, May, June,
Speaker 1: and July. The amount of man hours that NFL coaching
Speaker 1: staff spend on scouting the opposition is insane. So the
Speaker 1: fact that Jason Garrett worked with Wade for as many
Speaker 1: years as he did years ago, I mean, when did
Speaker 1: Wade left here in twenty ten? Yep, so that was
Speaker 1: seven years ago. I mean, so much stuff has happened.
Speaker 1: There's so many other things you can look at. The
Speaker 1: personnel is completely different. I mean, he's playing Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: in the three four as opposed to a four to three.
Speaker 1: It's that I don't buy that as a meaningful thing.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Heath cover skills and opposing
Speaker 1: teams passing down? I'd rather replace him with Woods at
Speaker 1: some point, and I'm starting I'm starting to think Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods will be a starting safety by the end of
Speaker 1: the year. Maybe I could see that happening over Heath.
Speaker 1: It's possible. I mean, he's already out there. They're already
Speaker 1: playing him in safety in certain looks. Who do you
Speaker 1: think has played better in the first three games, Heath
Speaker 1: or Jones? Just Jeff Heath, He's played better, I think
Speaker 1: so I did two. And I don't think it's because
Speaker 1: as well, we're expecting a lot of at a Jones
Speaker 1: and Heath is the first year. I mean, Heath has
Speaker 1: actually been here longer than Jones. Can I say neither? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean because I don't think. I mean it's if
Speaker 1: you want to say one's been better than the other, Okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's been a sizeable difference number one
Speaker 1: in number two. I don't think I've seen play from
Speaker 1: either one that suggested me I'm happy with the safety
Speaker 1: position right now, right, But but I think that we
Speaker 1: need to be careful too, because Xavier Woods comes in.
Speaker 1: He's made some plays on special teams, he's made some
Speaker 1: plays around the line of scrimmage, and we're saying, hey,
Speaker 1: this guy's playing well, and he and he is, but
Speaker 1: you can need to be careful to say, all right,
Speaker 1: since he's playing so well, he'll be fine back there
Speaker 1: as the last line of defense as a rookie I
Speaker 1: mean Madden syndrome, right, And maybe I've just fell for
Speaker 1: it myself a little bit. But the fact that he's
Speaker 1: handled everything they've asked them to do so far, and
Speaker 1: they trust him enough, they've they're already putting him back there.
Speaker 1: They're doing it mainly in like dime and when they
Speaker 1: play deacon and stuff like that, basically in situations where
Speaker 1: it'd be for him to screw it up. That's basically
Speaker 1: what it's looked like. But the fact that he's already
Speaker 1: done that much in three weeks after being limited for
Speaker 1: the second half of training camp, that's really encouraging, honestly.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff Heath hasn't been great, but I don't
Speaker 1: think he's been terrible either. I mean, he made a
Speaker 1: nice play on a ball in Denver where he broke
Speaker 1: up what might have been a touchdown right And I again,
Speaker 1: I know the play didn't count, but I was very
Speaker 1: impressed by the read he made on that throw that
Speaker 1: he almost intercepted. Um. No, he's not a pro bowler,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's been absolutely awful either. And
Speaker 1: again I'm not saying I'm not saying that they've been great.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they've been awful. What I do
Speaker 1: know is that I want a little more consistency out
Speaker 1: of the safety position. I think they've both been in
Speaker 1: situations where I've seen him miss tackles and make bad
Speaker 1: I mean we used to jump on JJ Wilcox a
Speaker 1: bunch for bad angles and missing tackles. And when you
Speaker 1: got a safety, that's one of their primary responsibilities because
Speaker 1: they are the last line of defense in many cases.
Speaker 1: So and you know some of those deep balls, like
Speaker 1: you see the safety kind of trailing back there, like
Speaker 1: where were you? That was a play that you probably
Speaker 1: needed to be a part of. And so all I'm
Speaker 1: saying is right now, at the safety position, I haven't
Speaker 1: been thrilled with what I've seen. I think there are
Speaker 1: some positive things, but I think there's just as many
Speaker 1: negative things. I want to set. First touchdown, That first
Speaker 1: touchdown of the game, I mean not good. Heath was
Speaker 1: was over there. But looking at the play Heath was
Speaker 1: was trying to he was going with like the All
Speaker 1: Pro Larry Fitzgerald. I mean he ran to the to
Speaker 1: the outside, so he had to follow him. I mean
Speaker 1: I think it was Byron Jones that wasn't over there.
Speaker 1: But I think you're seeing signs that this is what
Speaker 1: I mean. Your six primary dbs have not played a
Speaker 1: lot of games together, right Yes, and it looks they're
Speaker 1: not well coordinated right now. It looks like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So who would you guys like to Sorry, but who
Speaker 1: would you guys like to see going up against Gurley?
Speaker 1: Line up against him? Are you are they asking more
Speaker 1: from this somebody when he gets going? Who would be
Speaker 1: the best guy that you would like to see him
Speaker 1: cover once he gets going down the field? I mean,
Speaker 1: I want Sean Lee to play this game. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna help limit Todd Gurley just again in the sense
Speaker 1: of he's as good as the defensive line has been.
Speaker 1: He's the best thing about the run defense in my opinion.
Speaker 1: I mean, can't count how many times live. But then
Speaker 1: also when you go back on tape where he's just
Speaker 1: knifes through the line and makes that tackle for it
Speaker 1: has a chance. If it's not him, the next best
Speaker 1: option would have to be Damien Wilson. Yep, Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: is He's gonna get there, but he's to me where
Speaker 1: you see the one deficiency for him is speed. His speed,
Speaker 1: I don't think it is there just yet. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got a brace on his ankle like like that
Speaker 1: he's running with. He's got a great reaction. He gets there,
Speaker 1: he hits people. It reminds me of the when Rolando
Speaker 1: McClain got here and he's just finishing the play. But
Speaker 1: when he has to, when he has to really run
Speaker 1: in the open field, you can kind of see it
Speaker 1: in his run. It's not the same. So that one
Speaker 1: would kind of scare me a little bit. But I
Speaker 1: think Damian Wilson, I think he could, he could play well.
Speaker 1: He could be a factor in this game. And he
Speaker 1: might need to be. Even if Sean lee Is is healthy,
Speaker 1: he's really good and to that point, he's good in space.
Speaker 1: It's like when he's not good, it's when he can't
Speaker 1: get away from his the blocks, if he can't get
Speaker 1: away from the offensive line. But when he's out in space,
Speaker 1: he's a really athletic dude, and he more often than
Speaker 1: not makes the tackle. So he could be big this week.
Speaker 1: The last time they played the Rams was at fourteen
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis. Is that the last time that in
Speaker 1: the regular sea the regular season? Um? I think I
Speaker 1: think that was the game. Hitchins had eighteen tackles. He
Speaker 1: was a beast. He had to start that game. Yeah
Speaker 1: he had. I believe he had a fourth down stop. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He had a bunch of bo plays as a as
Speaker 1: a rookie. So because I don't think was it Austin
Speaker 1: Davis the quarterbacks, sounds like Jared Goff is gonna be
Speaker 1: a little better than that. Bruce Carter had to pick
Speaker 1: six below A Bourne sealed the go on the game.
Speaker 1: Proud Brian, Proud Brian. Let's grab me a phone call
Speaker 1: from Tim and New York doesn't want to talk about Sam.
Speaker 1: What up, Hey, how you guys doing great? First to
Speaker 1: get to football in just second. But I quickly have
Speaker 1: to say, really appreciated that twenty minutes yesterday at the
Speaker 1: start of the show that you guys were talking about
Speaker 1: race relations and different things. I think that's a good conversation.
Speaker 1: It's something that we need. And I must say, Derek
Speaker 1: Um totally agree with you about the comment that you
Speaker 1: made of how that Washington the country in general needs
Speaker 1: to come together as compromise on some things. I think
Speaker 1: that we've just been too divided too long. Like to
Speaker 1: see our leaders take the league in doing that. But
Speaker 1: anyways to football. So earlier you guys were talking, Nick
Speaker 1: brought up bringing up Mark Quz White for the cornerback situation,
Speaker 1: and so I was thinking, why not look at releasing
Speaker 1: this week to do that, um Price and then bring
Speaker 1: up Marquez, see how he does see the health of
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks next week, and then perhaps UM at that
Speaker 1: point release Ben Wickery if that's a possibility, and keeping
Speaker 1: White then as on the UM fifty three so UM
Speaker 1: and then get Irving. So what you think about that?
Speaker 1: All right, that's good, that's a good call. I kind
Speaker 1: of I kind of get that and then bring the
Speaker 1: ding into Yeah, I think that probably depends on their
Speaker 1: comfort level. If you release Price and he plays, it's
Speaker 1: not like he's not a part of this. And Nick
Speaker 1: always says he's their only big body. I mean that's
Speaker 1: a big guy, that just body that just sits down
Speaker 1: in the middle. Highrely depends on your comfort level playing
Speaker 1: this game with basically three defensive tackles, one of whom
Speaker 1: right three this game Paya, Collins and Crawford, and well,
Speaker 1: I guess you would have Crawford. Yet it doesn't leave
Speaker 1: you with a lot of depth at defensive tackle if
Speaker 1: you do that. But like I said, he's the one
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. I could see them being willing to release
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, that makes sense. But remember this about
Speaker 1: the Marquez White been Wickery and we're only four weeks removed,
Speaker 1: I guess from cut down day, and they could have
Speaker 1: done the same thing then. I mean they could have
Speaker 1: had been Wickery. I mean they didn't have to go
Speaker 1: get him. They could have put Marquez White on the team.
Speaker 1: They chose to do that, so at that point they
Speaker 1: looked at it and said, Hey, this guy is way
Speaker 1: better than him. Let's go make this move. And cut
Speaker 1: Marquez and hope we can get it back. So we'll
Speaker 1: see if if things have changed that much since then.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, but I like that thinking.
Speaker 1: But I don't know about cutting price for this game
Speaker 1: this week. I think you cut price if you could
Speaker 1: get Irving back into the mix. I'm almost to the
Speaker 1: point like I don't want to make any changes right
Speaker 1: now to that defensive line. I'm like, okay, let's just
Speaker 1: leave it like that for right now. Not did he
Speaker 1: much he make a play? Though? Did he? I don't
Speaker 1: even remember him in the game. I remember him being
Speaker 1: in the game. I couldn't point to a specific play
Speaker 1: that he made. But but but a guy in that position,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna notice, right, You're you're right, and they
Speaker 1: you know Paia and and maliek Collins, and Malie's not
Speaker 1: undersized at all. Pia though, is for that for that position,
Speaker 1: and so you know Crawford's guys playing in so I
Speaker 1: mean he's somewhat undersized too. I mean, at some point
Speaker 1: you do want that, you know, big body guy in
Speaker 1: there to kind of clog the middle. And let's remember
Speaker 1: the you kind of said it the same way. But Ben,
Speaker 1: they've been wickery was more about getting some veteran presence
Speaker 1: in this secondary where you got a bunch of young
Speaker 1: guys and then they and so are they willing to
Speaker 1: now forego that? You know, you still got a bunch
Speaker 1: of young guys, and by the way, a couple of
Speaker 1: them are injured, So you kind of wanted that veteran presence.
Speaker 1: You wanted to add a little more of a veteran
Speaker 1: presence to that group, and that's why you brought him in.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's changed in three weeks, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess whoever that was, I was one. I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell if he was still on the line or not.
Speaker 1: That's okay, he's not anymore, all right, Thanks for the call.
Speaker 1: It was a good call. I's second to the question
Speaker 1: from twitter. You guys think that DeMarcus Lawrence will be
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of how far golf drops back
Speaker 1: when he's trying to throw it pass, haven't. I'm great,
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I'm honestly, I haven't had a
Speaker 1: whole lot of time to study the Rams offense. I
Speaker 1: fell asleep at eight thirty last night when I got home.
Speaker 1: But I don't think the drop really matters so much
Speaker 1: as I mean, Andrew Whitworth is a Pro Bowl tackle.
Speaker 1: He's good player, shout out at LSU. He's on the
Speaker 1: left side. That's not demark I mean, and I know
Speaker 1: DeMarcus played both sides in this game, but I still think,
Speaker 1: at least for right now, I would imagine he's primarily
Speaker 1: your left end. So he's going against Rob Havenstein. He's
Speaker 1: twenty wentworth, No exactly, It's really I don't care about
Speaker 1: how back, how far back he's dropping. I care about
Speaker 1: the quality of the tackle he's I think so um.
Speaker 1: I think I remember putting him like in a mock
Speaker 1: draft or something like that, fourth or fifth round. Here's
Speaker 1: the big thing for me is and again you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I will. I'm gonna go and watch the
Speaker 1: Rams offense and defense tonight when I get home from work.
Speaker 1: But it seems like Sean mcvay's whole thing is getting
Speaker 1: the ball out quick. It's kind of I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's like purely West Coast, but it's a very
Speaker 1: it's a you know, I don't think he's I don't
Speaker 1: think the goal is for him to be holding the
Speaker 1: ball for you know, four or five six seconds. I
Speaker 1: think they want to get it out quick. So that's
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for, is just that kind of like
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, he's throwing the ball before you really have
Speaker 1: a chance to get your pass rush back there. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking for. I know they did have
Speaker 1: a Thursday game last week, but Taylor Austin and Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins were in the concussion protocol to finish the game.
Speaker 1: Don't know kind of where they stand now. Like it's
Speaker 1: funny like with another with another guy has a concussion
Speaker 1: on the other team, you're like, oh man, they'll be back.
Speaker 1: Of course on this team though, you're thinking it's not
Speaker 1: a given for I'll see him in November. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we could gathers Is on IR and Nolan Carroll
Speaker 1: has missed one game and probably will miss another. So
Speaker 1: and that's the thing that with concussions day that's probably
Speaker 1: with every injury, but certainly with concussions, it's so different.
Speaker 1: You never know with every guy. Like you guys said,
Speaker 1: Ron Leary was in the concussion protocol. Bill surprised me.
Speaker 1: Cowboys played them, and I think he was in the
Speaker 1: protocol for six days and then was ready to play
Speaker 1: on Sunday. So well, it just depends on kind of
Speaker 1: the I guess the level of severity of the of
Speaker 1: the injury. All right, guys, appreciate you joining us. We're
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