Speaker 1: What is you are?
Speaker 2: You're done?
Speaker 3: Yeah, You're off in God's Country with your boy Room.
Speaker 3: And then Lisbel also known as the Brother Something where
Speaker 3: we take a weekly drive to the inn section of
Speaker 3: country music and.
Speaker 2: The great out Those.
Speaker 3: Two things go together like Marty Stewart and Mississippi.
Speaker 4: Or a high and lonesome Sound Bay and also brought
Speaker 4: to you by Meat Eater and.
Speaker 3: Sam hit it Sam, Here it is. There was on vacation.
Speaker 3: We've got Sam vacation, vacation. Come on now, huh?
Speaker 5: To color starts to show down Baby, to Cola starts
Speaker 5: show down.
Speaker 3: Baby, he's burn seed or Lesbian's good khaki pant.
Speaker 2: These brown boots make a white damn want to.
Speaker 6: Get up and dance because the comas the show down.
Speaker 2: Baby, that's all as I go.
Speaker 4: I can't go any loader that you cut. You cut
Speaker 4: it too early. Sam, that's cool, he's learning, he's figuring
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 1: Charlie.
Speaker 3: His middle name should be some acoustic guitar savant worse
Speaker 3: commercial man. But he's also like a mega killer singer,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like then a mega killer songwriter. I
Speaker 3: feel like that also kind of just flies under the
Speaker 3: radar because he's such a great guitar player.
Speaker 2: But man, that guy's is special.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite he drops one of my favorite,
Speaker 3: uh country music stories that we've had on this on
Speaker 3: this podcast. He brought a little prop with him, a
Speaker 3: little relic. This is the first prop. Maybe Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: great guitar player. We play a ton of Dan's Hold
Speaker 3: of Guitar the whole podcast, and we're just kind of
Speaker 3: riffing on songs and we do a little Vince Gilmedley
Speaker 3: just a great dude. Man loves Nashville, loves loves playing
Speaker 3: the guitar, loves country music, and it's very apparent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, authentic human as well as like just a just
Speaker 4: a light you know what I mean. Like he's he's
Speaker 4: uh cheering other people along. He's encouraging, you know, to
Speaker 4: us and to the listener as far as folks who
Speaker 4: may be pursuing this this field, you know.
Speaker 3: And you can tell he's grateful, he's humble about the
Speaker 3: position he's in and and uh doing a lot of
Speaker 3: cool things man, and putting out a record great songs.
Speaker 3: You're gonna love it. Listen to Charlie Worsham. It's awesome.
Speaker 3: Thanks for thanks for following us, thanks for leaving us.
Speaker 3: Five star roast. Yeah, I forgot roast time. I believe
Speaker 3: we do have one. I think the roast is done.
Speaker 3: The roast has been been cooking on low for eight hours.
Speaker 2: Let's go takes ten. That's why he doesn't taste is good?
Speaker 2: That's why all right?
Speaker 4: From fifteen JB The Brothers ADHD. I have not read
Speaker 4: this yet, so it could be I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what goes on. So true.
Speaker 4: If you want to listen to a couple of guys
Speaker 4: struggle to stay on topic for more than two minutes
Speaker 4: and end your commute confused by what you just listen to,
Speaker 4: this podcast is for you. Yeah, we get it. You
Speaker 4: killed one nice buck from a truck. Bad All jokes aside.
Speaker 4: Once you get passed Dan complaining about the most petty
Speaker 4: things in life and read trying to maintain twenty five handicap,
Speaker 4: the show is legit. The comical banter gets usually. The
Speaker 4: comical banter gets usually bits okay, sorry. The comical banter
Speaker 4: gets usually culminates with some deep stories about life that
Speaker 4: can resonate with even those not passionate about the outdoors
Speaker 4: and country music. That was a hell of story. I'm
Speaker 4: a day one listener, and y'all are killing it. Just
Speaker 4: when I thought the episode of Craig Morgan was the peak.
Speaker 4: Y'all keep delivering great content. Hearing the stories behind life
Speaker 4: and music really brings all the songs to life.
Speaker 2: Kudos to Steve.
Speaker 4: Meaner to recognizing talent and bringing you into the circle,
Speaker 4: as I wouldn't have come across your podcast otherwise. Dang,
Speaker 4: Thanks fifteen JB. It's a welcome edition to my weekly
Speaker 4: commute podcast rotation marrying and two things I'm passionate about.
Speaker 4: Notice no mention of writing someone's coat tails.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Come on, man. Thanks, I'm a three handicap
Speaker 2: right now. By fifteen JB. That was a good one.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get suck us with the heat and
Speaker 4: then he got a little sweet you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 4: help you up.
Speaker 2: Hey, I want to shout out. Uh, I want to
Speaker 2: shout out this guy.
Speaker 3: I haven't done it yet and it's been a while,
Speaker 3: but uh, I'm going to shout out.
Speaker 2: This is pretty cool. Sorry, it's taking me a while.
Speaker 2: Where is it? Chad from Missouri? Okay?
Speaker 3: Recognize me at the aquarium in Chattanooga. Really literally, man,
Speaker 3: I was just I was strolling. I was I was
Speaker 3: strolling the stroller and Oak was running around acting like
Speaker 3: a shark and trying to bite people, and Griffin will
Speaker 3: watching the she was blowing kisses at the guy cleaning
Speaker 3: the tank or whatever, and and and I like, you know,
Speaker 3: you can kind of like telling somebody's like just feeling
Speaker 3: looking at you type thing. And I turned and he
Speaker 3: was he was walking next to me, and he goes, hey, man,
Speaker 3: you read And I was like yeah. And he's like,
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of the podcast.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Wow, He's like, I was like, what's your name is,
Speaker 3: like Chad fro Missouri. He's like, I listen every every Tuesday.
Speaker 3: He's like, y'all. He was like, he's like, y'all are
Speaker 3: crushing it. Man, appreciate you, thanks, thanks for doing what
Speaker 3: you're doing.
Speaker 2: Just quick. He's like, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: bother you anymore. But just wanted to say, no pictures, nothing, nothing, signed,
Speaker 2: nothing for the man. No man. And that's great, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's great. I'm not famous. That's true. We're not. I'm
Speaker 2: not picture famous. I'm not even though somebody might have
Speaker 2: been taking pictures at us the other day. It's kind
Speaker 2: of weird. People take pictures with me all the time.
Speaker 2: Oh dude.
Speaker 3: They they're like, who are you? And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm just a guy. They're like, they ask you to
Speaker 3: take pictures of the hottest guy I've ever seen. Can
Speaker 3: I get a picture with you? I'm sure, man. It
Speaker 3: does have nothing to do with this podcast, So chat
Speaker 3: shout out Chad from Missouri, thanks for saying, what's up?
Speaker 2: Kill a big deer this year? Chad?
Speaker 3: That's right, Well some turkey's actually that's kill a big deal.
Speaker 3: We love Misi man. Hey, we love y'all. Appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3: You're gonna love Charlie Worsham and yeah, they's ranging out
Speaker 3: with us. Piece speed we are speed Clap, not the
Speaker 3: gator chump. That's the movie thing. Speed Man. We got
Speaker 3: c m a Musician of the Year and touring Musician
Speaker 3: of the Year, a dad in Mississippian songwriting.
Speaker 5: Touring this year with Mega Marooney and n Mudsen and
Speaker 5: joining Dirk S. Bentley as a band member for his
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five summer tour. Possibly the badest guitars we've
Speaker 5: ever had in No Death definitely today we've got mister
Speaker 5: Charlie worship.
Speaker 2: I'm proud to be here, dude. Thanks for hanging with us.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 4: We always do this like catch up morning thing we're reading,
Speaker 4: I call each other if there's any bits or anything.
Speaker 4: And I was like, hey, man, I think we're just
Speaker 4: gonna play a lot of guitar today.
Speaker 1: That's fine by me because I'm like, rarely do we
Speaker 1: have a top point five percenter player probably in the world.
Speaker 2: So maybe we should just let you.
Speaker 7: Know.
Speaker 1: You all are kind. I tell you, I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to be like Brian Sutton when I grew up.
Speaker 2: Is that where you started on Briant?
Speaker 1: Like, well, bluegrass in general? I mean, I uh, you know,
Speaker 1: when I was really young, my parents would take me
Speaker 1: to see concerts, a lot of concerts, and I got it.
Speaker 1: Uh not not exactly, but what happened we would go
Speaker 1: see Vent Skill, who is my north star in concert
Speaker 1: and Marty Stewart, my other north star, and of course
Speaker 1: him being from Mississippi was a big part of me
Speaker 1: feeling like, oh he's from where I'm from. Maybe I
Speaker 1: could do this. Is he from where you're from? I'm
Speaker 1: not where I'm from. He from Philadelphia, Mississippi. And I'm
Speaker 1: from Grenada, but uh.
Speaker 2: That's our people. Oh yeah, Studio five.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we both log. Oh god, we could tell
Speaker 1: some stories that year I got in trouble playing that
Speaker 1: bar in high school because there were the poles on
Speaker 1: the bar and that was a you know, that's a
Speaker 1: whole nother podcast right there, but the other sketchy bar
Speaker 1: Partners or something Partners. As a matter of fact, you
Speaker 1: know who played Partners once, not officially as a gig,
Speaker 1: but he sat in with the band was Toby Keith.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we were a big music family. My dad,
Speaker 1: who made his living as a banker all those years,
Speaker 1: he also was a drummer and he's a he's a
Speaker 1: great drummer. He doesn't really play much these days, but
Speaker 1: my early early memories of music are sitting on his
Speaker 1: lap at the drum kit and him letting me bang
Speaker 1: on the drums, you know, in a spare bedroom in
Speaker 1: the house, and then going to see him play a
Speaker 1: gig and the guy in the band that played guitar
Speaker 1: saying where Wolves of London and he took the guitar
Speaker 1: played the solo with his teeth and that was the
Speaker 1: moment I was like, that's who I that's what I
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 2: Do when Yeah. But so part of.
Speaker 1: The musical connection in the family was we had this
Speaker 1: festival which still still goes on called thunder on Water
Speaker 1: every June. And now that I know it's I can't
Speaker 1: go because it's the same weekend as c m A Fest,
Speaker 1: but uh it's thunder on Water. We'd get all these
Speaker 1: great singers. I mean, we had Trick Pony, Sharie Austin,
Speaker 1: Tracy Lawrence, uh, John Anderson played like Debora Mclinton would
Speaker 1: play every year, but one year Toby Keith King.
Speaker 2: Is Donal Clinton is that Mississippi guy.
Speaker 1: He's not a Mississippi guy as far as I know,
Speaker 1: I love He's so good.
Speaker 2: He's got to be Southern.
Speaker 1: He's got to be And you know what I associate
Speaker 1: him with is my mom clean in the house. Really
Speaker 1: she would put a little doubor cd on uh that, Uh.
Speaker 2: Oh, don't make me do that, don't make me do
Speaker 2: it already, Love.
Speaker 1: Text, love text, if that makes sense. What's that record? Uh,
Speaker 1: one of the Fortunate Few or something?
Speaker 4: I always like, Uh, oh, what's the Delver? I'd say
Speaker 4: every time I that's it, that's the record. But you know,
Speaker 4: Toby Keith came one year and they booked him like
Speaker 4: right before should have been a cowboy blew up and
Speaker 4: he was out of their price range. And my dad
Speaker 4: was the guy who would coordinate and book the festival
Speaker 4: and the talent and stuff. So Toby comes to town
Speaker 4: and just you know, blows the roof off my hometown.
Speaker 4: But then after the gig, he's like, I want to hang,
Speaker 4: I want to party, and uh so all the folks
Speaker 4: with the festival taking around town. He he wanted food.
Speaker 4: The only place open was a gas station. We got
Speaker 4: gas station hot dogs.
Speaker 1: And then he went to Partners and he sat in
Speaker 1: a corner and signed autographs and then sat in with
Speaker 1: the band and then he was like, I still want
Speaker 1: to keep going, y'all. So he swam in the holiday
Speaker 1: and swimming like one in the morning.
Speaker 2: He wanted to I don't know there's been a better
Speaker 2: opener store. Oh yeah, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 4: Do a thousand different things on this podcast. One of
Speaker 4: them is, uh, what's mad at?
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I know I'm a fan, and they go
Speaker 3: ahead and pick that guitar up because we don't have
Speaker 3: you have a feature on on our what You're Mad
Speaker 3: at here.
Speaker 1: And who's going first on what you're mad at?
Speaker 2: We don't even know yet.
Speaker 1: How much time y'all got plenty.
Speaker 4: Hey, Uh, just the heads up for the listener. There'll
Speaker 4: be a lot of guitar today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all right, show him.
Speaker 2: Show him showing him nothing? Get it all right?
Speaker 3: Just rip a little solo on the back of this. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: what you're mad? Just tell us what it is?
Speaker 1: What you're mad?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 1: You in lost kids?
Speaker 5: Might be your boss man with your neighbors, cat? Just
Speaker 5: tell us what mad at?
Speaker 7: Get it?
Speaker 2: I said, I ain't telling you nothing?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: What you mad at?
Speaker 7: Dan?
Speaker 1: You mad at anything?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm already talk about Did I? Did? I?
Speaker 3: Did I talk about the coffee thing last time? And
Speaker 3: I talked about that yet? I'll tell you what I'm
Speaker 3: mad at. Here's what I'm mad at. Are you mad
Speaker 3: about losing your phone in the parking lot this morning?
Speaker 3: Did I?
Speaker 2: You did?
Speaker 3: Charlie almost ran over it, but he got got out
Speaker 3: of his car. I wish you would have.
Speaker 2: Did I give it to you? I don't know where it's? Okay?
Speaker 1: Right here?
Speaker 4: How did he get right here? You must have found
Speaker 4: it because I put it back here, okay, appreciate man.
Speaker 4: He was out of his car, like sorry, and I
Speaker 4: was like, no, I'm take time.
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I didn't know what he was doing.
Speaker 4: He's like, I think this is somebody's phone and it's
Speaker 4: both of y'alls kids. Oh yeah, I wish you just
Speaker 4: left it there, Charlie. I hate that thing. So I'm cleaning.
Speaker 3: I'm in the garage the other day and and moving
Speaker 3: some boxes around, and I've got my socks on, and
Speaker 3: I think I think the kids are downstairs playing. So
Speaker 3: I just kind of like went out there and threw
Speaker 3: some things away, and uh, there was a box that
Speaker 3: I kind of like moved out of the way, and
Speaker 3: when I did, it kind of tilted over and it
Speaker 3: landed against the back of my leg and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I just feel this liquid going down my leg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like, what is this?
Speaker 3: And I looked over and there's a full, i'd say
Speaker 3: three quarter thing full of coffee that was just sat
Speaker 3: on top in the top of the box, full with
Speaker 3: the top off, like a throwaway box or like, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 3: it's a toss of trash box. So I was like,
Speaker 3: what in the word my sock is is coffee now
Speaker 3: just just soaked. It's all over the floor. And I
Speaker 3: was like dad going picked the cup up, uh faint
Speaker 3: and goat. It was a black coffee, probably six dollars,
Speaker 3: this much, drink out of it, tossed away. Did you
Speaker 3: get that wo you think got it?
Speaker 2: Probably jons, Yeah, jokes got it.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm mad at, buying six dollars coffee, drinking
Speaker 3: this much out of it and then putting it, sitting it,
Speaker 3: setting it on top in the box, on top like
Speaker 3: this so it doesn't spill in the box with the
Speaker 3: top off.
Speaker 1: Here's my question to that, Okay, holler, is anybody mad
Speaker 1: at when that coffee was purchased? It probably wasn't six dollars.
Speaker 1: It was probably four dollars or four fifty. And that
Speaker 1: screen that goes do you want to to that whole?
Speaker 1: You know? And I'm all for for tipping, and I
Speaker 1: try to tip well, but man, it's it's getting pretty aggressive.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna have to tip on an
Speaker 1: old change or something that you know why, because maybe
Speaker 1: maybe the people that aren't asking for tips are the
Speaker 1: ones that need it.
Speaker 3: I'm just no doubt you know, change is definitely harder
Speaker 3: than pouring some coffee.
Speaker 2: I think I I think that's big. Yeah. I think
Speaker 2: you're mad at before.
Speaker 4: As yet because when you My thing is like when
Speaker 4: you go to pick something up, like you call something
Speaker 4: in right, yeah, yeah, and then you go to pick
Speaker 4: it up and it's like, well here you go, just
Speaker 4: sign right here and they flip the thing around. It's
Speaker 4: like eighty five percent right, or a tiger little boxes
Speaker 4: his other Have.
Speaker 1: You seen the videos? I'm just picking it up, bro,
Speaker 1: tippy Donalds? Would I pick that up? No, that's the
Speaker 1: same thing. Maybe you could come in with venmo screen
Speaker 1: and just hold it up to them like this is
Speaker 1: just going to ask you a few questions and they
Speaker 1: could tip you for buying coffee coffee for I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: where's the line? Have you seen?
Speaker 2: Have you seen?
Speaker 3: This is not about tipping, but have you seen the
Speaker 3: videos of the guy checking out at like the pet
Speaker 3: store and it's like, would you like to donate a
Speaker 3: dollar to save a dog's life?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: My to that?
Speaker 2: And he's like looking around and hits no, and it's
Speaker 2: like are you sure. It's like are you sure?
Speaker 3: And it's like, so you're choosing to kill animals, kill puppies,
Speaker 3: and he clicks no, and he's.
Speaker 4: Like, well, uh then why didn't you hit yes. He's
Speaker 4: he's like he's looking at the cash cass like this
Speaker 4: and then the screenop. So it's like, so you want
Speaker 4: us to kill the dog right now? And he's like no,
Speaker 4: He's like, does the dodge too late?
Speaker 2: We just did it? Like, oh my gosh, maybe next
Speaker 2: time you had donate a dollar, just save a dog's
Speaker 2: loss of the cashier.
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful it's a beautiful crazy my favorite. I
Speaker 4: know we're getting on what you mad at what I'm
Speaker 4: not mad. I'm glad that I'll do glad. I'll make
Speaker 4: this myn glad you are glad this morning.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I.
Speaker 4: Saw this meme that made me laugh so hard. Dude,
Speaker 4: I guess it's a me.
Speaker 2: It's a meme. Our videos clips still memes? Or does
Speaker 2: it have to be?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Okay, so the video was they called these reels. It
Speaker 2: was a real.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a real and it's it had there's these
Speaker 4: two it's a video and there's these two kids standing
Speaker 4: there with Mickey Mouse heres on them, and the top
Speaker 4: said that the caption says, we take our kids to
Speaker 4: Disneyland every year and there and she's got the video
Speaker 4: on it. She goes where are we? And they go
Speaker 4: where at Disneyland? And she goes up and it says
Speaker 4: bush gardens above.
Speaker 2: It's just it's.
Speaker 4: Like Yogi Bear walking around like all these characters that
Speaker 4: aren't Disney. But the kids are so young they have
Speaker 4: no idea that they're they're not going to Disneyland.
Speaker 2: Pretty great.
Speaker 1: I'm impressed were.
Speaker 2: Taking land every years, like freaking bush Garden.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Whereas bush Garden is that Lewis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like Hannah Barbara or whatever that thing mate,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm talking about the guy.
Speaker 2: It's all those cartoons, not Disney cartoons, the.
Speaker 1: Ones, the ones you can get licensing for a little
Speaker 1: more reason, Yeah, a little more reason.
Speaker 2: Lines aren't as long. Yeah, lines are not as long.
Speaker 4: It's had all the reasons that one hundred dollars instead
Speaker 4: of a thousand dollars. One of my favorite stories, Raindy
Speaker 4: Montana said he walked in one day and his dad,
Speaker 4: Billy was holding his uh was holding soul of it,
Speaker 4: I think maybe, and he had an apple and he
Speaker 4: was going orange orange, like just just completely messing up
Speaker 4: the system, completely teaching him. You know how funny would
Speaker 4: that be if with our kids we picked one thing
Speaker 4: oh yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Just called messed him up for We talked.
Speaker 1: Actually, my wife and I we haven't done it so,
Speaker 1: but we really strongly considered it. There's a character in
Speaker 1: the office that says tacos oh, and we thought about
Speaker 1: just for every time I'm around our kids with oh,
Speaker 1: should we get tacos tonight? Just said that their whole life,
Speaker 1: But we couldn't bring ourselves to do it.
Speaker 2: I do say schoo, and Boone is now say he
Speaker 2: say I got schoo today because we don't put off.
Speaker 2: So that's actually kind of unintentionally happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mad anything, man, I got a mad and
Speaker 1: a glad. Oh baby, I'm coming in hot today. But
Speaker 1: you know my mad ad is not entirely still true.
Speaker 1: But about six years ago I got lazy as a songwriter,
Speaker 1: and I just fell out of the rhythm of getting
Speaker 1: up every morning and kicking my inner songwriter out of
Speaker 1: bed and uh, and it all came to a head
Speaker 1: and then I and then I buckled down, and since
Speaker 1: then I have not let up every morning, even if
Speaker 1: I don't have a write or whatever. Even if I'm busy,
Speaker 1: I would always make time to write and think about ideas.
Speaker 1: And life in the last year has just gotten a
Speaker 1: little bit crazy.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: We welcomed our second child into the world, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Harper Jan was born last October. She's almost six months.
Speaker 1: But i let my right and slip. And I've been
Speaker 1: mad at myself for the last year or so for
Speaker 1: letting my right and slip, because what it is is
Speaker 1: you then hear a great song, and not only do
Speaker 1: you have that, like, dang, I wish I wrote it,
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, I'm not even I don't even
Speaker 1: have a radar up, you know, but I have. I
Speaker 1: will say. I've been getting up earlier every morning and
Speaker 1: doing at least the fill up one page thing, and
Speaker 1: it does make me think about songs.
Speaker 2: How early you have to get up?
Speaker 1: Between five and five thirty I wake up. But our
Speaker 1: sun has one of those hatched night lights that changes colors,
Speaker 1: and so he stays in his room till six thirty.
Speaker 1: When the light turns green. It's working so far, Dear Lord,
Speaker 1: please let it keep working.
Speaker 2: When the light turns green. It turns green.
Speaker 1: You said it and he knows, like until the light
Speaker 1: turns green almost stay what color is It's like a
Speaker 1: purple pink looking kind of thing.
Speaker 2: It's not like scary red.
Speaker 1: No, no, well it was red. And then we were like, man,
Speaker 1: this is what do we doing?
Speaker 2: And on the monitors.
Speaker 1: But that's my mad ad. I've been mad at myself for.
Speaker 2: One more thing that keeps kids in bed.
Speaker 4: I saw they had the door shut and they put
Speaker 4: a goose decoy at I saw that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kids like I told, I told them, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna do that if you stay
Speaker 2: in your bad He's a big turkey, just like amazing.
Speaker 2: That put me back to the man, what are you
Speaker 2: glad at?
Speaker 1: My glad at is about the time gave our son
Speaker 1: who's four as of yesterday, uh that birthday, Happy birthday,
Speaker 1: big dinosaur this kid had. But about the time he
Speaker 1: turned to I started playing in music that I love.
Speaker 1: So his first favorite song, I'm so excited start me
Speaker 1: up by the Rolling Stone. I'm starting with the country.
Speaker 1: I'm starting with the rock and roll, the classic rock soil.
Speaker 1: He loves. Running down a Dream is his current one.
Speaker 1: Long way to the top. You want to rock and
Speaker 1: roll by d C. He just discovered he's discovered Rocketman recently,
Speaker 1: and you know, like he was at a playdate with
Speaker 1: some other friend he has from school, and the parents like, oh, gab,
Speaker 1: like's what's what's his favorite song? Wheels on the Bus.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, no, start me up, you know. But
Speaker 1: but what I love about it is that's kind of
Speaker 1: how my dad raised me. And it's this fun sort
Speaker 1: of connection in my heart. And I think as he
Speaker 1: gets older he'll appreciate. Sure, but now he's four, he
Speaker 1: might be ready for country music. I was holding off
Speaker 1: to you know, you gotta be a little older, get
Speaker 1: that Merle Haggard sadness in your heart, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure that's something our dad did too.
Speaker 3: Is like I just remember and we and we've talked
Speaker 3: to him and and the people that listen to this
Speaker 3: podcast knows. But but like Tulsa Time, and and and
Speaker 3: and and the Doobie Brothers and Chinatown and all like
Speaker 3: that's trying to grow, trying to grab my back.
Speaker 1: Grow.
Speaker 2: Grow, That's what I said, China Ground.
Speaker 3: No, I said grow when I like, when I think
Speaker 3: of my oldest memories of riding around on the truck
Speaker 3: with him, it's that it's that stuff and and that
Speaker 3: that like. So I'm trying to do the same thing
Speaker 3: with my I mean, our daughter's first her the work.
Speaker 3: She knew nine to five before she yeah anything, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like Dolly Parton. She's gonna have
Speaker 3: a Dolly birthday party. Just but she's obsessed with Dolly party.
Speaker 3: That's all because we listened to Yeah, it was because
Speaker 3: we listened to nine to five and Joe Lene and
Speaker 3: all those things.
Speaker 2: Man, And she's up. She's got Dolly shirts and Dolly hats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love like, I love I mean, there's
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that other stuff, but I love like
Speaker 3: putting that in front.
Speaker 1: Of there's room for both. There's something. And the way
Speaker 1: I see it is it's as much for him twenty
Speaker 1: or thirty years from now as it is right now,
Speaker 1: exactly right because of the memories. I mean, music is
Speaker 1: what you set your memories to, you know. So uh,
Speaker 1: And I'm building the playlist out, like just yesterday, because
Speaker 1: we got them a little trampoline. I added Jump by
Speaker 1: Van Halen to the I was like, hey, bro, I
Speaker 1: was like, check this out. You're ready for a stuff
Speaker 1: over there? Yeah, And then I journal to our kids.
Speaker 1: And that's a big point. When I add a new
Speaker 1: Song'm like, man, you just started listening to this, or
Speaker 1: you know your dad hangover this morning? The year later,
Speaker 1: five thirty journaling, don't don't have another one, or that
Speaker 1: journal is gone. Yeah, it's a bit of a jump. So, uh,
Speaker 1: my daughter.
Speaker 4: Was with our mother in law yet like a week ago,
Speaker 4: and they were they went to, uh, what's the home
Speaker 4: good TJ Max? They went to Max and they were
Speaker 4: walking through them. She's five, and uh, Liza goes, hey,
Speaker 4: this is Whitney Houston. She was like what, She goes,
Speaker 4: this is Whitney Houston singing this song and it was
Speaker 4: something she loves. I started playing it. My trick thinking
Speaker 4: is that if I play her the greatest female vocalist
Speaker 4: of all time early on, maybe that's how she just
Speaker 4: starts to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she she loves.
Speaker 4: Allison Krause, Whitney Houston. Uh, she really loves Elle Langley
Speaker 4: right now. Big Griffin got on that, and then Griffin's
Speaker 4: on the dollar train and then my my son, he's
Speaker 4: Alan Jackson. Dude, Oh yeah, give him Chattahooshie over wheels
Speaker 4: on the bus every day. Yes, he loves Chattahooche and
Speaker 4: he can't even say it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Another special thing too, is like being a songwriter is
Speaker 3: is I'll play my songs for Griffin and now she'll
Speaker 3: call them like if Dan singing a vocal on one
Speaker 3: of them, she'll say, play the Uncle Dan song. She'll
Speaker 3: be like, play the truck song, play the play the
Speaker 3: farm song, play you know, the like the daddy song,
Speaker 3: and like, well, we will sit there and go and
Speaker 3: drives and whether going to Walmart or whatever, and we'll know.
Speaker 3: There's one one thing about Cornett, you know, it's just
Speaker 3: like these little nuances that she's picking out. But like
Speaker 3: seeing her back there and it's it's it's it's trivial, right,
Speaker 3: Like I mean, they're there're songs that haven't been cut,
Speaker 3: or maybe some of them have, and but just like
Speaker 3: looking in the rear view and seeing her back there
Speaker 3: doing this to like, yeah, my songs, you know, like
Speaker 3: like creative processes in my head that that are putting
Speaker 3: down on the track.
Speaker 2: And man, it's so cool. It's a special thing.
Speaker 1: Yes it is, and you know, not to get more
Speaker 1: of it about it, but I mean, after we're gone,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a great comfort to her.
Speaker 2: Down man, But you do I think about that all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, you know, if they could just
Speaker 4: have my catalog to go back and listen.
Speaker 2: To, well, they will, they will.
Speaker 4: Songs I've written about them, songs I've written about their mom.
Speaker 4: All of the songs I write about their mom. Yeah,
Speaker 4: every song about a girl ever written.
Speaker 3: Charlie, Yes, absolutely, it is Amen. What did growing up
Speaker 3: Mississippi look like for you?
Speaker 2: Like? Were all were all big outdoors family? Were you? Just?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well yes, And I was actually thinking specifically about
Speaker 1: this coming in here today. Uh, I've never hunted once
Speaker 1: in my life. I haven't fished since my dad's dad.
Speaker 1: My papa took me and I was probably six. And
Speaker 1: that's crazy. And I'm gonna get back into it for
Speaker 1: my son's sake and kind of relearn and teach myself.
Speaker 1: I might have to call you off, But but that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I didn't grow up in the woods.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I just mine looked a little different. I think for me,
Speaker 1: I was so challenged as an athlete, you know, Uh,
Speaker 1: it never made sense. But the minute I got it
Speaker 1: was piano lessons at first, but the minute I got
Speaker 1: connected to music, that was it. And so my version
Speaker 1: of the woods was either if I was by myself,
Speaker 1: I had a little walkman with foam headphones on and
Speaker 1: a Martin Stewart CD, D White Yoakum or Vince CD, or.
Speaker 2: You were taping back then you were CD.
Speaker 1: I was a CD. No we had well, I had
Speaker 1: a cassette, like a big honking hunk of cassette player
Speaker 1: in the house.
Speaker 2: I'll be forty later this year. I thought we were
Speaker 2: about to save age.
Speaker 1: But as far as like mobility's sake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was the Yeah, I was right at the I
Speaker 1: did have a and when I made my first little
Speaker 1: Bluegrant Strigger when I was thirteen, it was available and
Speaker 1: it's still available on cassette and CD. Now I should
Speaker 1: have brought y'all college. I want to send something. Just
Speaker 1: let me know if you want cassette or CD.
Speaker 2: I don't have a cassette player, dude, we can find one.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I even have a CD player anymore,
Speaker 1: except for on my car made.
Speaker 2: I don't think my truck doesn't have one yours.
Speaker 4: I've never put one in. I've never found it. If
Speaker 4: it does, yeah, I guess it's like a secret hiding.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy here we go.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for me, outdoors was like if I was
Speaker 1: by myself, I would have those headphones on, I'd grab
Speaker 1: a stick and I'd close my eyes and be walking
Speaker 1: through the woods in the backyard or whatever around the house,
Speaker 1: you know, playing along.
Speaker 2: As a child, Like I have a have a vivid
Speaker 2: memory of me dreaming about playing the m solo of
Speaker 2: We Will Rock You. Yeah, yeah you.
Speaker 4: Yes, anyway, Uh, I dreamed of me playing that in
Speaker 4: like my middle school auditorium in front of all my friends.
Speaker 2: So I know I was younger than that when.
Speaker 4: I was spotlight in the middle, just like a half court. Hey,
Speaker 4: we got a guy that's gonna turn out, Sam.
Speaker 1: Dude, I actually did that. I ended up doing that
Speaker 1: in eighth grade. My school let me play in the auditorium.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you were way well better than our wives.
Speaker 3: You were also walking through the woods playing guitar.
Speaker 1: But my best friend live next door and there was
Speaker 1: a lot of there are a lot of woods behind her,
Speaker 1: and we all had dogs, and that was my other outdoors.
Speaker 1: We go out and we built tree forts. That was
Speaker 1: the most of my outdoor time. And you know, i'd
Speaker 1: be Indiana Jones, that's right, when I wouldn't being Marty Stewart.
Speaker 2: What song did you play in your in eighth grade?
Speaker 1: Uh? You know they let me put on a whole
Speaker 1: concert and I did do Uh have a little faith
Speaker 1: in me? The Delbert version tough and uh, I can't
Speaker 1: remember what else? Probably uh just take those old records
Speaker 1: off the ship still you know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: It's still recurr.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably some Vince Gill all all the standards you expect,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were probably the man. They probably weren't. Well
Speaker 2: man dude, in a way I was.
Speaker 1: And in a way, you know, I still didn't have
Speaker 1: like football player status in school. But like and I
Speaker 1: mean by high school too, Like my high school game
Speaker 1: was playing in a bar band, although other guys in
Speaker 1: the band, I mean playing literally playing Studio fifty five
Speaker 1: or wherever what Walnut Street blues bar or whatever in
Speaker 1: Greenville or but.
Speaker 3: That probably wasn't even like and tell me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 3: but like that the sports thing probably wasn't even I mean,
Speaker 3: it's probably in your mind, but not, I mean you
Speaker 3: probably just think it right.
Speaker 2: You were just probably just well.
Speaker 1: But look by the time I struck out at t ball,
Speaker 1: I realized, like, this ain't my lane.
Speaker 2: But son, you're out, You're out, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Come on you No, it's it's that way around, not
Speaker 1: that way around, you know, but uh no, I mean
Speaker 1: it just music just was so fun and uh I
Speaker 1: kept lucking into and y'all were asking early if I
Speaker 1: was bluegrass. I ended up getting into bluegrass first and
Speaker 1: banjo before guitar. I wanted a guitar. We would come
Speaker 1: up to Nashville and go to Bland theme Park. You know.
Speaker 1: I was so fortunate to be a kid at a
Speaker 1: time when that theme park was still happening, and to
Speaker 1: grow up close enough. Yeah, we could come to see it,
Speaker 1: you know, because then you go to the Opry that night.
Speaker 1: But I was begging my parents all the way to Nashville,
Speaker 1: please can we get a guitar? You know, because growing
Speaker 1: guitars was downtown on Broadway where Dirks's Bar is now.
Speaker 2: That place is magic.
Speaker 1: It was so magic.
Speaker 4: If I ever got to go in there, I was
Speaker 4: just like, oh yeah, And then you'd be looking at
Speaker 4: price tags and you'd be like, I know, yeah thousands.
Speaker 1: Of times I know, uh, but yeah, so I would.
Speaker 1: I would beg them, you know. And then we went
Speaker 1: to oppery Land and Mike Snyder had a one of
Speaker 1: the that was one of the cool things. But Ipperland
Speaker 1: had all those great shows, you know, and he had
Speaker 1: this sort of bluegrass show and he was playing banjo
Speaker 1: and had the fur coat song. She's really putting on
Speaker 1: a dog when she goes out tonight. That's where the
Speaker 1: he runs over the German shepherd makes the fur coat.
Speaker 2: She's been masked for.
Speaker 1: Out it talking about killing a dog. But no. So
Speaker 1: the whole way home I was like, can I please
Speaker 1: get a banjo? And that kind of gave me this
Speaker 1: awesome detour of bluegrass and then I played like the
Speaker 1: bluegrass circuit, like bluegrass competitions, banjo of Manlin, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And then eventually got a guitar, which I actually bought
Speaker 1: it gruins. I was in fifth grade. I had saved
Speaker 1: up five hundred dollars and there was a telecaster for
Speaker 1: six hundred dollars and I had my banjo with me.
Speaker 1: So I went out on the street and I played
Speaker 1: for tips for two hours and I made about fifty
Speaker 1: bucks an hour. Walk back in with like all these
Speaker 1: singles and all the money I had saved up and
Speaker 1: bought that telecast. God, and then I was on that path,
Speaker 1: you know, and which led to playing in bar bands,
Speaker 1: which is the best education you could hope for it.
Speaker 2: Agreed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's where I cut my teeth as well.
Speaker 4: And you learn a lot about life in those bars.
Speaker 1: Oh you did. I ran into my biology teacher one weekend.
Speaker 1: She was like mortified. I was like, no, this is
Speaker 1: cool there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I saw people get hit in the face. I saw
Speaker 4: people cheat. Yeah, just all from the stage. And by
Speaker 4: the way, people who go to sea bands, we can
Speaker 4: see you, dude. Oh there's like this veil that that
Speaker 4: the band doesn't know. Dude, we're watching all night long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all night long, sometimes entire like cinematic sometimes how
Speaker 3: you get through the gig.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when you play it was entertaining. Who Chicken
Speaker 1: wire in a one way mirror? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Did you play any chicken water places?
Speaker 1: The one place I got, uh, well, not full, but
Speaker 1: up to the up to waist high we played one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was kind of in the delta, mississip I can't
Speaker 4: I want to say.
Speaker 2: Like Greenwood, Greenville.
Speaker 1: Green State is kind of oh, Cleveland. Yeah, Cleveland's got
Speaker 1: some spots, man.
Speaker 4: It was somewhere over there and it was this. It
Speaker 4: was a rough spot, dude, what do you call it?
Speaker 4: Chicken wire like a chicken wire place. No, literally, like
Speaker 4: the bands walled off to protect them if in case
Speaker 4: they throw a for real. Yeah, I played one place
Speaker 4: that had another way out by.
Speaker 1: The time, I think so, and the one we were
Speaker 1: at it was more to keep like drunks from dancing
Speaker 1: on stage than throwing beer bottles waist high. It was
Speaker 1: the Queen of Clubs in uh right across the river
Speaker 1: from Clarksdale.
Speaker 2: That's a cool name for a club. Did you ever
Speaker 2: play Natchez?
Speaker 1: Not until I was out out on my own.
Speaker 4: That was a rough spot. I can't remember the name
Speaker 4: of the bar, but it's like the oldest bar.
Speaker 1: The under the hill spot, like down there by the river.
Speaker 2: I really remember, dude.
Speaker 1: That well, yeah, I've got some It was rough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so rough. I saw I saw a fight.
Speaker 1: The stage elevated like six feet, so you were looking
Speaker 1: down on people, and I saw a fight start to
Speaker 1: break out and the guy went to tayze one of
Speaker 1: the dudes when he did his like ninety pound girlfriend
Speaker 1: slid him between him and he stuck her and she
Speaker 1: just went. It was was like Jamie, he was like
Speaker 1: keep playing, kept playing and got out of there. That's
Speaker 1: a wild place. There's no other place on earth like Natcha.
Speaker 1: And I feel that way about a lot of Mississippi.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I'm getting ready to do podcast on my own
Speaker 1: actually with the visit Misissippi folks called Mississippi on the
Speaker 1: map and talking about how influential all these Mississippians are,
Speaker 1: you know, over the over the course of history, but
Speaker 1: on music. But you know Natchez or pick any place
Speaker 1: in the mountains Greenwood, and and you wouldn't think, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna especially somebody from across the pond or something like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to America and see. But like and
Speaker 1: sometimes the people from farthest away are the ones who
Speaker 1: are like, no, I want to go see Mississippi. You
Speaker 1: don't see where Elvis grew up. I don't see where
Speaker 1: Roberts are all that stuff. But it is a pretty
Speaker 1: spooky and cool place.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: South Mississippi is a almost like a different continent. North Mississippi.
Speaker 9: It has its own, uh, greasy kind of old vibe.
Speaker 9: That's the yeah, yeah, okay, yes, well, and you know,
Speaker 9: the other thing with Mississippi is two of the biggest
Speaker 9: pieces of the Mississippi story are just across the border
Speaker 9: in Memphis and New Orleans.
Speaker 1: So I feel like all of South Mississippi has a
Speaker 1: touch of that New Orleans you know, swampy thing, and
Speaker 1: then all the Memphis stuff. You know, I mean, we're
Speaker 1: we're where Memphis farms. It's talent. You know, Historically everybody
Speaker 1: came up from Mississippi and landed in Memphis, and then
Speaker 1: a lot of them came here. But uh, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a cool spot.
Speaker 2: I love. Missippy was a solid spot in my heart.
Speaker 3: What was it like going so so you're in you're
Speaker 3: in high school, playing these bar bands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you decide to go to Berkeley? Yeah, up in Boston.
Speaker 2: What was that like?
Speaker 3: What was the transition from middle Mississippi country, right, good
Speaker 3: old boy up to Boston to wear to put it
Speaker 3: in a phrase, that's like the.
Speaker 1: Best culture shock in the world. And I was one
Speaker 1: of the coolest things. And they did a lot of
Speaker 1: great things raising me. But my mom in particular did
Speaker 1: as a school teacher and one who believes that travel
Speaker 1: is the best education. By the time I left home,
Speaker 1: she had taken our family to Europe half a dozen times,
Speaker 1: all over the States. So I was a pretty well
Speaker 1: traveled kid becoming from Mississippi. And I knew I was
Speaker 1: a bit of a nerd and history buff. I knew
Speaker 1: there was so much cool history American history in Boston.
Speaker 1: And Boston is a great walking city, and when you're
Speaker 1: a student who ain't got a car, you know well
Speaker 1: and honestly to that's part of the culture shot, coming
Speaker 1: from where you drive everywhere to where you kind of
Speaker 1: walk everywhere, you take public transportation. I loved it, and
Speaker 1: Berkeley in particular is such an international scene. And I
Speaker 1: actually ended up in a bluegrass band. I got college
Speaker 1: credit for playing banjo there, which was great. But I
Speaker 1: was in I was in bands with people from all
Speaker 1: across the world and getting exposed to all kinds of
Speaker 1: cool music. And then on the weekends I would like
Speaker 1: walk across town and go to the Italian market in
Speaker 1: Little Italy and then come home and he persudo, which
Speaker 1: is just Italian bacon, you know. So it was great.
Speaker 1: I loved it, and so many of the people to
Speaker 1: this day that I still work with. I met at Berkeley,
Speaker 1: we all moved here. Well, my one of my bestmonders here,
Speaker 1: Eric Massey. He's a great engineering producer. He and Frank
Speaker 1: Ladell produced the self titled record Parker mccomb's about to
Speaker 1: come out with Uh. They did Miranda's Weight of These
Speaker 1: Wings and where I worked with Eric on my first record,
Speaker 1: Rubber Band, And on the beginning of things with Eric
Speaker 1: and with Frank, you just you.
Speaker 4: Know, you didn't feel you didn't feel that chill from
Speaker 4: across the room when you said rubber band, you have
Speaker 4: kind of a fan.
Speaker 1: Well, Eric Massey is a big part of that record
Speaker 1: for me. And then like Maddie who lives here, a
Speaker 1: bunch of people, Maddy she I met as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, Maddie, and then this guy Kyle Ryan.
Speaker 2: Uh. She's a killer songwriter.
Speaker 1: She's so good and her voice just like gives me
Speaker 1: chills every time. But Maddie and Kyle, who toured almost
Speaker 1: as like a duo for years, their first time meeting
Speaker 1: was like a recording project I had for class. I
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, Maddie, I want to do this song,
Speaker 1: and let's get Kyle over here to play and my
Speaker 1: buddy out of my olden door. If he works at
Speaker 1: the Country Music Hall of Fame and he plays for
Speaker 1: Ashley and Row and different people. So there were a
Speaker 1: bunch of us who came down.
Speaker 2: Glad to hear you, dude, can I just can I
Speaker 2: just throw good?
Speaker 1: Me and me?
Speaker 2: Just picture this.
Speaker 3: Me and Luke comes are in Kansas in a like
Speaker 3: a ninety four Eddie Bauer audition Bronco and we're rolling
Speaker 3: down just playing songs we love and and and he
Speaker 3: this is like it's one of the first times like
Speaker 3: just me and him have been, you know, hanging out.
Speaker 2: And this is a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: And he's like, dude, He's like, you know what song
Speaker 3: that I can't get out of my head? When like
Speaker 3: when I'm riding down the road and I'm like, what
Speaker 3: want me To?
Speaker 1: As? Can we do?
Speaker 7: Can we do it?
Speaker 2: A first four? So are you mad at that song yet?
Speaker 2: Are you mad at it? I'm not mad at that song.
Speaker 1: I used to be mad at that song. I had
Speaker 1: the chance to pick my second single and I picked
Speaker 1: want Me To? And it tanked and in hinsight either
Speaker 1: for a long long time, well it was timing, you
Speaker 1: know it was just what was the scene in that song?
Speaker 1: In hindsight, and for a long time I was upset
Speaker 1: that I didn't pick something that had more teeth as
Speaker 1: a song. I was just thinking, well, it should be radio,
Speaker 1: should be up tempo and like fun. But I've made
Speaker 1: peace with that song and I actually have so much
Speaker 1: gratitude for it now.
Speaker 2: You know it's yeah.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: Get the yeah, you just get out your Hardy Combs
Speaker 3: is loving this right now. He just perked up somewhere.
Speaker 1: Lock on your heart is changing in the dark somehow
Speaker 1: and lost key say you tried everything to gain love
Speaker 1: back again? Baby, you ain't tried me that I could
Speaker 1: break one through. If you want me to tell me
Speaker 1: what it takes kitchen on a thing, then I can
Speaker 1: take it from there. This mon Son and the girl
Speaker 1: get you floating on earth? If you want me to
Speaker 1: come on? Do you want me to?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: I skipping like a storm of water? Tell me? What
Speaker 1: have I gotta do to make you want me to?
Speaker 1: Where Phil couldn't fall any mother?
Speaker 7: Have me?
Speaker 1: What did I gotta do to make you want me to?
Speaker 1: Make you want me to? Make you want me to? Yo?
Speaker 1: Hitty man, ain't y'all directors out there. It's in your system.
Speaker 3: So when, So when did you go to Berkeley with
Speaker 3: the idea of, like, I'm going to go to Berkeley
Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna go straight to.
Speaker 1: Nashville big time. I don't even know if I knew
Speaker 1: it consciously, but I think subconsciously, I think I knew
Speaker 1: when I was twelve I had to end up in Nashville.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know the middle part of like, you know. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: my parents were so supportive and understand. I mean, they
Speaker 1: wanted me to go to college. Uh, not even as
Speaker 1: a backup planning. They supported me going to get in
Speaker 1: the music plan college route.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what. You know, when you're twelve,
Speaker 1: it's like you're not necessarily think, well, how am I
Speaker 1: gonna convince my family and how am I gonna pull
Speaker 1: this off?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: But every step of the way just kind of kept
Speaker 1: kind of pointing toward it, you know, especially all those
Speaker 1: trips we made, just family vacations. I just love Nashville's
Speaker 1: This was the closest big, big.
Speaker 2: City were you writing as a little kid.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I so I was a
Speaker 1: picker first, and then I had the good fortune. This
Speaker 1: guy named Norma Putnam, world renowned musician, played on a
Speaker 1: bunch of Elvis Records, Producer producer Margare Ritaville and John
Speaker 1: BIA's Records. Had a studio Quad Studios. We probably throw
Speaker 1: a rock and.
Speaker 2: Hit from here.
Speaker 1: He had married a grenade girl and in my high
Speaker 1: school years he set up a little production studio, and
Speaker 1: I don't know how I was introduced to him, but
Speaker 1: I was, and he mentored me and had some recording
Speaker 1: gear he wanted to sell sold it to me for
Speaker 1: next to nothing, and so I started recording, and then
Speaker 1: I had to start writing. Well, I started singing because
Speaker 1: of the four hour sets in those bar bands, and
Speaker 1: everybody's got to sing and think. So I sang out
Speaker 1: in necess I ran out of cover songs to record,
Speaker 1: so I wrote started writing out of necessity. And the
Speaker 1: first songs I wrote were jingles for some local come
Speaker 1: to Trisha's barbershop, Come real Soon. I sold them to
Speaker 1: her barbershop and to Yes, thinking out my first she
Speaker 1: is she is? And then uh uh oh what was
Speaker 1: the feed store? Uh? Cross country feed cross country seat
Speaker 1: that I wrote for them? That one fire speed shovels,
Speaker 1: reck song and more it's all here and our brand
Speaker 1: new store. Come on down to Cross Country.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: You know it probably was at that time a bit
Speaker 1: you know. Uh and yeah, I think they paid me
Speaker 1: each like one hundred hundred and fifty bucks and I'd
Speaker 1: be driving around to school, you know, it'd be on
Speaker 1: B one hundred on the radio. Like that was my
Speaker 1: first I got serious about writing at Berkeley. I had
Speaker 1: some great teachers who helped kind of expand my horizon,
Speaker 1: especially on the lyric writing side, and got me listening
Speaker 1: to songs in a new way. So I was able
Speaker 1: to come into Nashville at a better angle of approach.
Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned Frank Lyndell that he did that.
Speaker 1: Talking about Liam Wack record. Well, you know, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's officially credited on. There's more where
Speaker 1: that came from, but I have a feeling he was
Speaker 1: very involved.
Speaker 2: Dude, that is.
Speaker 4: The only person I have met in Nashville that it
Speaker 4: shook me.
Speaker 2: It really did. Man.
Speaker 4: I can't remember why I was at Fenwicks or we
Speaker 4: were at Fenwicks me and you wasn't it And Frank
Speaker 4: was there and.
Speaker 3: He was like that was my first publishing deal was
Speaker 3: a carne Frank and and and me and Frank were
Speaker 3: actually going to start working on a record until I
Speaker 3: jumped ship and rumined everybody's plans of being an artist.
Speaker 4: Thanks thanks both season but anyway, he said, well you'll
Speaker 4: have a seat, and Reid sat next to Frank and
Speaker 4: the only open it was a booth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was next to her.
Speaker 3: And I met Leanne before I didn't put it together
Speaker 3: for a second, and she was like, hey, how are you?
Speaker 3: And I saw her eyes and there they're weirdly crystally blue,
Speaker 3: like oh yeah, piercing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, insane, she has insane eye contact. I mean she
Speaker 1: is very intense, like.
Speaker 2: Dude, I was, I was.
Speaker 4: I was just like oh oh, and I was like
Speaker 4: it started making, Oh yeah, he's made. And then I
Speaker 4: was like, oh my gosh, I'm like having coffee with
Speaker 4: LeAnn Walmer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was pretty nuts. Man. Yeah, but she's
Speaker 2: a dude.
Speaker 1: I mean all time at there's more where that came
Speaker 1: from record. When I first moved to town, I mean,
Speaker 1: we were in the band van like that's all we
Speaker 1: listened to just don't repeat, and looking back, like, what
Speaker 1: a gift to Nashville songwriting she is because she cuts
Speaker 1: outside songs, and she still doesn't mean all her records
Speaker 1: are great?
Speaker 4: Are you gonna hate me in the morning? If I
Speaker 4: make you play? Hate myself in the morning?
Speaker 1: If I I don't remember the verses but.
Speaker 2: Read a look I can look. Let's see? Is that
Speaker 2: a g right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, nothing do and always get another round.
Speaker 2: If you do the key change, I'm fighting you.
Speaker 1: I'm not don something. Don down.
Speaker 2: There it is.
Speaker 1: I know it's wrong. The move and on? Why can't
Speaker 1: you freez? Remember good? I can't remember more.
Speaker 3: When I wake up, I'll be feeling a little guilty
Speaker 3: and a little sad, A little sad?
Speaker 2: Oh is that the second verse?
Speaker 1: It's you know what's crazy is I don't think I
Speaker 1: ever learned to sing them, because I mean, why would you?
Speaker 1: She already did?
Speaker 2: What about?
Speaker 7: What about?
Speaker 1: Uh uh?
Speaker 2: Oh? We can a little past, little rock?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But how does the how does the little past little art?
Speaker 2: Let go? Oh?
Speaker 7: Dude, please be.
Speaker 2: I got it, you got it?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had to leave my life in Dallas pretty trying
Speaker 1: to see. Had to leave my life in Dallas. That
Speaker 1: town will always be.
Speaker 5: In it, A crowd on every corner, every face out.
Speaker 5: So we have nothing more than a tink of gas.
Speaker 5: I drove away without looking back, and I guess since
Speaker 5: how I got whether I'm I'm.
Speaker 2: Going anywhere as fast as I can.
Speaker 6: Now, I'm a little past little Roup and further down
Speaker 6: a line.
Speaker 1: Too soon or no, what's up ahead? Too late to
Speaker 1: change my mind.
Speaker 6: I gotta keep my heart out of this and.
Speaker 1: Both hands on the wind. I'm learning more with every mind,
Speaker 1: just how I live in fields.
Speaker 6: It's a lonely stretch of black top down into the blue.
Speaker 1: I don't know where I'll go.
Speaker 5: Or what I do because I'm a little past a
Speaker 5: little roup, but a long way.
Speaker 1: From more over. You what about it? The food love
Speaker 1: fo Yeah? With you? Should you imagine like coming into
Speaker 1: a rite and then saying, hey, I got an idea.
Speaker 2: My goodness, dream day. It's just so like that voice
Speaker 2: is just angelic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you moved it, You moved to Nashville.
Speaker 2: You putting a hard left on Land.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like we did a justice, right, You got
Speaker 2: anything else you want to? I just love her so much.
Speaker 1: I love her so much.
Speaker 2: Can we get Land war work up here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: You've been in town eighteen years. Yeah, you're releasing your
Speaker 3: first independent record. Yeah, what what do you hope to.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: What do you hope to garner with that record? What
Speaker 3: do you hope to to do with it?
Speaker 1: Does? What I've learned making this record, which I think
Speaker 1: I was starting to figure out over the last eighteen years,
Speaker 1: is the thing I can't live without is making records
Speaker 1: and the thing you're always going to do it. I
Speaker 1: got to do it. I can't not do it. And
Speaker 1: I'm in a place where for a long time, especially
Speaker 1: you know, when Rubber Band came out and didn't take
Speaker 1: off commercially speaking, I got in a really bad way.
Speaker 1: I got really angry, and I didn't know it then.
Speaker 1: I know this now. I wasn't actually angry so much
Speaker 1: as I was scared to death. And what I was
Speaker 1: scared of was that I wasn't going to get to
Speaker 1: do this. That was what I was worried about. And
Speaker 1: then some I'm supposed to work. Yes, up to that point,
Speaker 1: everything had kind of fallen into place, and you get
Speaker 1: your one shot and you throw it out there and
Speaker 1: you think that you know and and I you know,
Speaker 1: if there's a young aspiring creative listening, like, if there's
Speaker 1: one thing I can tell them, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: if your intentions for doing this are true, there really
Speaker 1: isn't so much a thing as one shot. I mean,
Speaker 1: in a way, there's you might only get one shot
Speaker 1: on a major label. And I was lucky in those
Speaker 1: twelve years at one of they kept let me make records,
Speaker 1: and they even kind of sent me out the door,
Speaker 1: I think with some money I wasn't supposed to get
Speaker 1: so I could make this record. But like you know,
Speaker 1: even if that goes away, that doesn't take away what
Speaker 1: makes you a singer, a writer, an artist, you know,
Speaker 1: and you'll always get to do it if that's what
Speaker 1: you're in it for. And so I've hit a place
Speaker 1: where I'm not scared anymore of not getting to do it.
Speaker 1: And I think the low bar for this record is
Speaker 1: that it just gets me down the road to keep
Speaker 1: making more records. The high bar is still that thing
Speaker 1: I dreamed about at twelve. At thirteen. You know, I
Speaker 1: live a charmed life. You know, next week I'm going
Speaker 1: to be in the studio playing on you know, a
Speaker 1: major record for another country artist. And last week I
Speaker 1: was finishing up this record in the studio for myself.
Speaker 1: And in a couple months I'll be on the road
Speaker 1: playing to fifteen thousand people with Dirks, you know, which
Speaker 1: is awesome. The only way this could all get better
Speaker 1: is if that summer part of it and the studio
Speaker 1: part of it was all just like, all I'm doing
Speaker 1: is writing songs for me and playing my shows. And
Speaker 1: that's the hope, you know, is to be able to
Speaker 1: figure out how I can tour on my own bow
Speaker 1: out of Dirks, who's been such a good friend to
Speaker 1: me and so supportive. Not just you know, he's so
Speaker 1: good to his band, he also honors us as dads
Speaker 1: and does so many little things that are really big
Speaker 1: things to give us that extra time with our families,
Speaker 1: take care of us. He also honors and respects me
Speaker 1: as an artist and gives me freedom to go chase
Speaker 1: my thing. But yeah, I think that's the only way
Speaker 1: it could get better. But even in saying that, it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'd be here if I hadn't
Speaker 1: had these detours, and I've learned so much about writing
Speaker 1: and putting on a show and making records from all
Speaker 1: these other folks. I don't think i'd have a CMA
Speaker 1: on my shelf if it hadn't been for this path,
Speaker 1: you know at this point. So I'm just grateful for it,
Speaker 1: but that'd be the only thing, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: like so close to the absolute, absolute dream. I'm already
Speaker 1: living the dream.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, And it's true, like once you get over that,
Speaker 3: because I think if you don't move to this town
Speaker 3: with a little bit of pit in your stomach, with
Speaker 3: a little bit of fear, then you may be coming
Speaker 3: at it the wrong way because because you're right, man,
Speaker 3: and I hope people find out that once that, once
Speaker 3: you pass that fear, once you conquer that fear, man,
Speaker 3: it just opens up the doors to freedom to be creative, right,
Speaker 3: and not put your creativity in a box. And you
Speaker 3: can really you're not You're not sitting down to write
Speaker 3: a song that you feel like has to fit in
Speaker 3: this Once you feel like you're free, you can you
Speaker 3: can venture out and you can you can be creative
Speaker 3: who you are creatively, yes, and not just try to
Speaker 3: be the town creative.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think everybody has to go through their own
Speaker 1: version of that where it's like you hear what's working.
Speaker 1: I did you know rubber Band didn't work? But bro
Speaker 1: Country was working it. So, man, if you pull up
Speaker 1: my catalog and the songs I was writing in twenty fifteen. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of me trying to be Sam Hunt,
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely. But in doing that and then I learned, oh, well,
Speaker 1: that's not me, and that's what makes him him is
Speaker 1: awesome for him.
Speaker 2: Okay, So who are you? What makes you? I feel
Speaker 2: like I.
Speaker 4: Came to that same, yeah, clarity after writing for about
Speaker 4: ten years, honestly, grinding, grinding, grinding, I came to a
Speaker 4: place where I recognized what it was that I did
Speaker 4: that held value and was important or I thought would
Speaker 4: eventually be important to someone.
Speaker 2: Yet I could help. What do you when you think?
Speaker 4: When you when when when it's Charlie worship Man like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I know what it is.
Speaker 2: I just want to know. Yeah, you think it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, for the singing, it's it's high lonesome. It's
Speaker 1: the bluegrass thing. And bluegrass instrumentation is in there, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of banjo and mandolin. I think that's a
Speaker 1: big part of where I get my pocket. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I do think we all have grooves. Sorry about my pocket, dude,
Speaker 1: your pocket's great. I felt it's your pocket. No, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: don't be It's great. There's a lot deeper. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: all got it's all good. And then you know the
Speaker 1: rest of the instrumentation for me, the sonic recipe, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of skinnered and there's a lot of Southern
Speaker 1: rock in there for me. And then as far as
Speaker 1: like the songs and the writing, it's that Mississippi thing.
Speaker 1: It's like trying to reach a little deeper to a
Speaker 1: little more story. Uh, not that I'm anything even within
Speaker 1: the universe of a you Dore Wealthier William Faulkner. I
Speaker 1: just that's where I come from, sure, right, That's that's
Speaker 1: what I was raised on as far as storytelling goes.
Speaker 1: Also get in my opinion, equally entertaining stories from my
Speaker 1: uncle Ronnie and just as brilliant as well. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 4: I absolutely know what you mean, because I think the
Speaker 4: song on your record that does that is the second Chance,
Speaker 4: the uh.
Speaker 1: Oh, once upon a second time around, Once.
Speaker 2: Upon a second time around.
Speaker 4: Man, when I heard that too, and I was like, jeez,
Speaker 4: he took like a a pretty common story and kind
Speaker 4: of made it beautiful, you know what I mean, in
Speaker 4: a Mississippi way.
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't mean that because they're both alcoholics.
Speaker 4: I mean in the conversation, the conversation on this of it, Yeah,
Speaker 4: is very relative, but it's also it's pretty pretty smart.
Speaker 1: Who meet in an AA meeting and fall in love
Speaker 1: and have a sober second marriage. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, they watch a little TV on the couch, Yeah,
Speaker 4: get a good maybe go to the movies every now
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just know those people. Man to my aunts
Speaker 2: and my uncles and there.
Speaker 4: I mean, I could it's not all my aunts and
Speaker 4: uncles if any of you all listen to this.
Speaker 1: But there are there are people in my family, you know,
Speaker 1: ain't that all of us that we all have. I mean,
Speaker 1: may we be so lucky to screw up and get
Speaker 1: a second act. You know. I hope my kids screw up.
Speaker 1: I hope they do it, but learn from it, because otherwise,
Speaker 1: you know, you're not really getting out of the shallow
Speaker 1: end of the swimming pool of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you taste a little redemption. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 2: that that it's okay to do that. It's okay.
Speaker 3: It's nothing of the world if you if you make
Speaker 3: a mistake, yeah, and whatever, you're just beauty in.
Speaker 4: That definition of failure is is only I wish that
Speaker 4: was something we could adopt. And to the listener who's aspiring,
Speaker 4: like you were talking about, man, that all that is
Speaker 4: is just part of the process. You can't even you
Speaker 4: can't give it more weight than it deserves because it's
Speaker 4: hearing no or whatever you think failing actually is should
Speaker 4: be nothing more than propulsion.
Speaker 2: That's right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're a weightlifter, what do you do to
Speaker 1: your muscles? You reach failure and then you let it recover,
Speaker 1: and now you're starting with your true wisdom. You could
Speaker 1: only gain from that from breaking it all the way down.
Speaker 2: The only way to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, truthfully, I mean it's in the Bible. I mean
Speaker 1: the flood, you know, the whole New Testament is based
Speaker 1: on that. So I mean, yes, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: deep truth in that. And being almost twenty years in Nashville,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm starting to be the recipient of
Speaker 1: the grace part of it, you know, and the and
Speaker 1: the goodness the fruits of all that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, well, dude, you're a very very respected human
Speaker 4: in this town. But also, man, people just love you,
Speaker 4: and I I just want to commend you on on
Speaker 4: besides being an insane player and insane singer and insane
Speaker 4: songwriter all across the board, just genuinely being a good
Speaker 4: dude that that the town loves and is proud of
Speaker 4: and proud to call you one of our own.
Speaker 1: Serious Thank you man. Yeah, man, I mean no, I
Speaker 1: mean it.
Speaker 2: You're you're you're a special dude. Wan. End with that quote.
Speaker 3: You want to read the quote, Yeah, I do pretty
Speaker 3: I feel like it's been five minutes.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, I feel like we're just getting man,
Speaker 1: it's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is uh, this is a quote you said
Speaker 3: in an interview. The two more the two most important
Speaker 3: things are to hold on to a student growth mindset.
Speaker 3: Always be practicing, always be freaking out on a new record.
Speaker 3: And if there's something about the writing, chase that and
Speaker 3: find out what it is about writing that intersects with
Speaker 3: who you are. The most important thing is that if
Speaker 3: you don't reveal your true self to others, they may
Speaker 3: create a persona for you, and you may not like
Speaker 3: who they create. So stick to being you, even if
Speaker 3: it feels like you're going against the grain. That could
Speaker 3: be your secret weapon. Nobody else can do what you do.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, and here's the deal.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, this is the first time we've we've
Speaker 3: been able to hang out like this and have conversation,
Speaker 3: and we've been in the same rooms. And I loved
Speaker 3: watching you cut those lutes and the Luke sessions and
Speaker 3: all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Been amazing.
Speaker 3: But man, just sitting here with you for the past hour,
Speaker 3: I know that's you. You know, like I can. I
Speaker 3: can see that being true too in your mindset and
Speaker 3: your platform and uh and and dude, that's that's a
Speaker 3: beautiful way to put that. Man, thank you, And I
Speaker 3: can see that throughout your careers. I'm not gonna let
Speaker 3: you get out of here though, without playing a lot
Speaker 3: of music. So I want to hear the story about this.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, well, I was thinking about my camera and
Speaker 1: I got to say to it. I was telling Jordan
Speaker 1: this before the cameras role. I was before I really
Speaker 1: listened listen to the podcast. I was just following and
Speaker 1: I would I would see it on my screen and
Speaker 1: I be like, what is the gravel?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 1: That sounds like something in the King Billy Days plays
Speaker 1: that we go down to the basement and fire up.
Speaker 4: I came to that house. You are played house shows
Speaker 4: at that house. I would come to I've come to
Speaker 4: that house, and.
Speaker 1: That was a magic time. Was hot ship, dude. And
Speaker 1: for people who don't know, I mean John Osborne from
Speaker 1: Brothers Osborne. He was the guitar player Josh Mntheny who
Speaker 1: just got second or third or fourth amination as a
Speaker 1: session player, plays on Carly Pierce Records, Dough bro uh.
Speaker 1: And then Kevin Weaver who is the best drummer who's
Speaker 1: also a plumber yep, or the best plumber who's also
Speaker 1: a drum drummer. He's a plumb drum guy. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was a magic, magic time. Those were all
Speaker 1: the big brothers I never had, and what a great
Speaker 1: way to get.
Speaker 2: It was so cool. God, these guys are.
Speaker 1: Well we'd get those GAC those like you know, minute
Speaker 1: and a half commercials, and then every time they did
Speaker 1: there was like a product placement. So that one time
Speaker 1: it was man Wich and like they just brought up
Speaker 1: cases of management. We were broke as ship, you know,
Speaker 1: so we just say Manwich whatever we had, you know.
Speaker 1: But so this rug right here, the story here, this
Speaker 1: is my my favorite uh song in mind that we'll
Speaker 1: get to UH. When I was eleven ten eleven, uh,
Speaker 1: that festival to Keith play. Marty Stewart came to play,
Speaker 1: and uh, Marty got about he was my all time hero.
Speaker 1: I had just started getting good at decent at banjo.
Speaker 1: I went to the meet and greet I played banjo
Speaker 1: for him. He was very gracious, uh.
Speaker 2: To take your banjo to me.
Speaker 1: And he let me play him a song. But you
Speaker 1: know now that we're on that side of it like that,
Speaker 1: it's this much effort. But man, when you're the kid,
Speaker 1: changes your life.
Speaker 2: So thank you mar In that wild that's awesome, and
Speaker 2: so get more. Get Marito.
Speaker 1: He'll he'll do it, he'll do it. And you got
Speaker 1: to check out what he's doing in Philadelphia, Misissippi with
Speaker 1: his congress at country music too. He's he's the best.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: But no this uh, that day he gets ready to
Speaker 1: play his show. I've been looking forward to this like
Speaker 1: it's the biggest event of my life to this point.
Speaker 1: And about five songs in the biggest thunderstorm that ever
Speaker 1: hit Grenada drops on us and they have to yank
Speaker 1: him off the stage because there's lighting in and stays.
Speaker 1: There's no way he can go on. We're also parked
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the levee. His buses and so
Speaker 1: it's getting muddy fast. So the drivers like they're pulling
Speaker 1: him out of the hotel. You do, you got to
Speaker 1: get out of here because you're gonna be stuck. Well,
Speaker 1: they left in such a hurry that they left their
Speaker 1: bus mat that they had laid out on the ground.
Speaker 1: That was their bus mat. And uh, he stung that thing.
Speaker 1: And my sweet mom got out in that rain and
Speaker 1: put this thing in a garbage sack, threw it in
Speaker 1: the trunk and cleaned it off the next day. And
Speaker 1: then until I left for Berkeley. First thing my feet
Speaker 1: would hit every morning with this rug every morning, the cooling.
Speaker 1: Here's the full circle part of this. Uh and uh.
Speaker 1: The full circle part is Marty's getting inducted into the
Speaker 1: Country Music Hall of Fame. And they call me and say,
Speaker 1: would you like to play the guitar solo to tempt it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one of the three songs. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be one of the three songs they play to induct him.
Speaker 1: Amy Lou Harris is gonna sing it, and we want
Speaker 1: you to play the soul And I said, I got
Speaker 1: one yes, but I have one question. Can I bring
Speaker 1: a little square of carpet and stand on it. And
Speaker 1: so I stood on this rug and there's Marty getting inducted,
Speaker 1: and I played the solo standing on that rug, and
Speaker 1: somewhere deep in my heart, man ten year old me,
Speaker 1: just like you know, just transcend.
Speaker 2: It a beautiful.
Speaker 1: Story, that awesome and it's such a Marty thing because
Speaker 1: you know, he collects all this stuff and like this
Speaker 1: was me kind of trying to be a little like him,
Speaker 1: like holding on. I also have roy A Cuff's last
Speaker 1: tube of polygrip, which is another story.
Speaker 3: Dude, did you I I just want to ask one
Speaker 3: more question, like and I asked this to people from
Speaker 3: time to time, but like walking through the woods when
Speaker 3: you were little with a with a walkman on and
Speaker 3: and and and listening to these songs and listening to Marty,
Speaker 3: and like, did you see this for yourself?
Speaker 1: You know what I really did? And I saw it
Speaker 1: in an almost in a way more clearly than I'm
Speaker 1: able to see it now, because all I saw was
Speaker 1: the truest part of it, which was this is what
Speaker 1: God put me on this earth to do. I cannot
Speaker 1: deny it. I can just trust it and believe that
Speaker 1: it will be true in the way that I feel
Speaker 1: the Bible talks about, you know, getting into heaven like
Speaker 1: with the heart of a child. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: have the whole part of it where it's like, well
Speaker 1: i'm gonna have to get a pub dealer, I won't
Speaker 1: have to get you know, or like I got to
Speaker 1: compare myself to the It was just like, man, this
Speaker 1: is what I'm supposed to do. I got and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna and I'll figure it out. And so I saw
Speaker 1: it in that sense, but I didn't, you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't know how I was gonna do it or even
Speaker 1: think about how. I just thought, well, this is what
Speaker 1: I gotta do.
Speaker 2: That's what you're doing. Look at us, do it right
Speaker 2: now with that freaking yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, here we go in And you know, when I
Speaker 1: was thinking about how it's the greatest, it's it ain't
Speaker 1: like a house that built me kind of great. But man,
Speaker 1: when you're nine years old and you're in Mississippi you
Speaker 1: got that perfect guitar size stick in your hands and
Speaker 1: your phone headphones, it's such a pro This is the
Speaker 1: greatest country song of all time. Charlie Worsham was grave
Speaker 1: right right here, grave grab right, grab all right there's
Speaker 1: a girl trying to steal my heart. I'm tempted. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: he even though she could tear it apart, I'm tempted.
Speaker 1: In the rise, there is miss story. Every time she
Speaker 1: smiles at me, I know how it could be, and
Speaker 1: I'm tempted. Here's that cool guitar part. Each time she
Speaker 1: looks my way. I'm tempted just a little more. Every day,
Speaker 1: I'm tempting. It's so hard to resist the thought of
Speaker 1: her SWEEKINSS can't take much more of this. I'm tempting,
Speaker 1: tempted and try deep down answer. I can't din know.
Speaker 1: I'm tempted. Here's that great Richard Bennet guitar solo. Ever
Speaker 1: since she cold my eye, I am tempted. Just one look
Speaker 1: and you'll know why. I am tempted.
Speaker 6: It from burned by the flame.
Speaker 1: There's no one but in me to blame. Oh, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I forgot to refrain. I'm tempted, tempted and
Speaker 1: try deep down inside I Candy Night. I'm tempted one
Speaker 1: more time, tempted.
Speaker 7: In try.
Speaker 1: Deep down inside Candy Night. I'm tempted. I'm tempted. I'm tempted.
Speaker 3: Gosh, man, thank you spiritual. I'm tempted to just uh
Speaker 3: keep on going.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's go. You're going first, you get this
Speaker 1: one last. Yeah, I'll get last chance. And yeah. Well
Speaker 1: now you.
Speaker 10: Gotten my number, you gotten my name.
Speaker 6: Why don't you call me be alive Jane?
Speaker 1: Come on man next verse ever?
Speaker 10: Ye, well you got that body, you got that friend,
Speaker 10: So why don't you call me the live Jane?
Speaker 1: You're like God, it bad for you. There ain't nothing
Speaker 1: I won't do. Just won't kids? Sit down? Lever be
Speaker 1: the same little live thing?
Speaker 7: Is this Keith?
Speaker 1: Letle lout to change you.
Speaker 2: Little beat you meddling?
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: She was standing at the front porch when I got
Speaker 5: home last night.
Speaker 1: A good book in left hand and on rolling pin
Speaker 1: on the right. She said, you come here, boy and
Speaker 1: for the last time live on your bread, going on
Speaker 1: listen to my preaching. Boy or I tried to beat.
Speaker 6: You half day half Come on, give me just one
Speaker 6: more last chance.
Speaker 1: Before we say with through.
Speaker 5: I know you'll try, crazy baby, It's the best that
Speaker 5: I can do.
Speaker 1: I'm just a good old boy making noise. I ain't
Speaker 1: running around on you. Give me just one lord, last chance? Boys,
Speaker 1: same go, Charlie, just go for a second, Charlie.
Speaker 7: Worship everybody.
Speaker 1: Are you in the mouth? Geez? How longs?
Speaker 7: There we go?
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm let me do that that deserves better, here
Speaker 1: we go. Whenever I'm feeling.
Speaker 8: Lonely, Whenever I'm feeling blue, start thinking about my blue darling.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my heart starts pining for you. I want
Speaker 1: to hear that sound because my.
Speaker 11: Sweet baby around this guy, My damn, I want to
Speaker 11: hear that.
Speaker 4: God Man, that was kind of an honor for me
Speaker 4: to just trying to hang in there.
Speaker 1: Hey man, this has been an honor for me getting
Speaker 1: to hang with you guys. I love this show. I
Speaker 1: love what y'all doing. I feel like it's such a
Speaker 1: great window. I've believed for a while now that Nashville
Speaker 1: deserves a late show of its own, you know, because
Speaker 1: I think back in the ninties like tn N and
Speaker 1: stuff that kind of exists a little bit, and uh man,
Speaker 1: this is kind of the closest thing we got to that.
Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that if y'all need a band,
Speaker 1: you know you probably fit one back. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: moved some turkeys. Which you need is to have the
Speaker 1: band all mounted coming around the wall. The only I'm
Speaker 1: having a band is if you're in it, I'll be
Speaker 1: in it. Man, you're in enough bands the year.
Speaker 4: Probably Charlie Worsham is awesomes a new record.
Speaker 1: Call it's funny you say that. I've been thinking for
Speaker 1: a long time. I want to call the record once
Speaker 1: upon a Second time around. But it's a long title
Speaker 1: for a record, so so stay tuned. Maybe it'll be
Speaker 1: something else. There were a few long titles. There's a couple, yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's some great outside songs on it. I'm so
Speaker 1: excited for the world to hear it for that reason. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's one there called good Hurt. It's fifteen year old
Speaker 1: Walker Hay song. Really he wrote it fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: I think Keith Urban almost cut it. It's tough, man,
Speaker 1: it ended up, you know, like house that built me,
Speaker 1: you know, just sometimes they got to find their homes.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: Well, it's great. Thank you for coming on, man, Thank you. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: We got a little present for you here.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, Come on, these boots, these boots.
Speaker 2: Check them out.
Speaker 1: Stephen Wilson Junior said, once you put on a pair
Speaker 1: of to covids, they took took over your.
Speaker 3: Feet to cover your feet. That was yeah, man, hey,
Speaker 3: thank you for coming on. Man, thanks for hanging out
Speaker 3: with us.
Speaker 1: I got to show the camera pro.
Speaker 2: This is pro? What is that?
Speaker 1: What is that right there there of a yeah, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I gotta go downtown now find that bootstore.
Speaker 2: Just walk in there.
Speaker 1: People going to see me in the car and traffic today. Lord,
Speaker 1: thank y'all.
Speaker 2: Charlie, You're a legend. Dude.
Speaker 3: You're a legend, man, and we appreciate you coming hanging
Speaker 3: out with us, my pleasure.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you one thing right, real, real quick?
Speaker 4: How does it feel to know that, for the rest
Speaker 4: of your existence and even after it, you're an integral, integral,
Speaker 4: integral thread of music coming out of this town.
Speaker 1: Man, It's it's a dream come true. And you know, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to toot my own horn, but I
Speaker 1: will say that moment of winning that CMA like locked
Speaker 1: that feeling in for me.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And it was just this overwhelming gratitude because man, the
Speaker 1: grace I have received all these years, that the wisdom
Speaker 1: I have gained from just being in the room with
Speaker 1: so many people, heroes that have become friends and colleagues,
Speaker 1: And it's and talking about that. You know, did I
Speaker 1: see this? I think that's the way I saw it
Speaker 1: as a kid. It was like I just want to
Speaker 1: be a part of this, you know, like this rug.
Speaker 1: It's like I just want to be this that little
Speaker 1: stray strand of you know that already cut off of there,
Speaker 1: that's hanging on to that rug. That's kind of how
Speaker 1: I feel like. But I get to be a part
Speaker 1: of something that cool. It's crazy, man. I know you
Speaker 1: guys feel it too. It's it's really, I think a
Speaker 1: big reason why people who end up here for a
Speaker 1: long time end up here for a long time.
Speaker 3: Charlie Worson, Charlie Worston, so great man, So come back, hey,
Speaker 3: tribal worse from everybody? When's the record come out?
Speaker 1: As soon as I figure out who's gonna help me
Speaker 1: put it out, here we go. But I'm teaching it
Speaker 1: on socials, So follow me on the socials. I'll give
Speaker 1: you a taste of it.
Speaker 3: Awesome, man, Hey, thank y'all for you got something to say.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, wrap my porch around you gotta
Speaker 2: check that's.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's it. That's you and me and a
Speaker 1: fixer up and come on here and or hell and
Speaker 1: then the yard.
Speaker 2: Hey thanks up. God's she will check you out next time. Peace,