Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos King, the
Speaker 1: King of Reality TV and one of the most sought
Speaker 1: after executive producers in reality television with over ten years
Speaker 1: a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,
Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,
Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that
Speaker 1: we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, Mary drops
Speaker 1: Osday's episode of Reality with the King.
Speaker 2: I have a very special guest who I love.
Speaker 1: I've been on his podcast a couple of times and
Speaker 1: I said, way, honey, you have to also make an
Speaker 1: appearance online. He has a very very successful podcast called
Speaker 1: No Filter with Zach Peter. So girls, guys, and they
Speaker 1: give it up for the amazing Zach Peter. Hello, Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: Are you do you have the censor button ready? Are
Speaker 1: the editors ready to cut me?
Speaker 3: Oh? My god?
Speaker 2: I mean I think they're ready to do other things
Speaker 2: to you, but we'll see. I'm cutting them.
Speaker 1: Was on the listen, nobody's done on the back in
Speaker 1: a minute, Carlos, So, I will take whatever I can
Speaker 1: get right now.
Speaker 2: Is it a dry season for you?
Speaker 1: You know it wasn't because I was like banging this
Speaker 1: guy that I go to the gym with for a
Speaker 1: hot second and then it like slowed down. So and
Speaker 1: then I deleted all of my apps, like all the
Speaker 1: dating apps, because I just I'm like, I need to
Speaker 1: be in my my solo season.
Speaker 2: May I ask for gym?
Speaker 3: You go to Zach, I go to Orange.
Speaker 1: Theory in South Park. If anybody wants to get a membership,
Speaker 1: is there all they're getting when they go to that?
Speaker 1: Long listen when I tell you I've made my way
Speaker 1: through Orange Theory in South Park. Uh, but also you know,
Speaker 1: like when you first start going to the gym and
Speaker 1: like your body isn't quite in that place that it
Speaker 1: is when you've been going for like a while. So
Speaker 1: I'm glad that, like I made it through the roster
Speaker 1: at like the start of my journey. So now when
Speaker 1: I walk in and I see they haven't progressed, but
Speaker 1: I have you know, we have to clear the shelf
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we need to restock it with some
Speaker 1: new twenty twenty five meat. Ah five you and some
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five meat. So that is exactly what is needed.
Speaker 1: So listen, you should have came with me. Yesterday I
Speaker 1: went to Kathy Hilton's holiday party sponsored by direct TV.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it was It was a great party.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Kathy Hilton always throws a great party,
Speaker 1: but there's always What was the tea that came out
Speaker 1: of this party? Carlos, like, I want to know who
Speaker 1: was getting who did you catch banging in the closet?
Speaker 1: Did you find Kathy Hilton's nudes in in the safe?
Speaker 2: She says she keeps in the bank safe. Riding with
Speaker 2: her and Rick were what were they?
Speaker 1: It was it?
Speaker 2: Vegas? Was no? What was it?
Speaker 1: I think it was Vegas. It was Vegas, right, like
Speaker 1: the mirror and the selling mirror and stuff like. No,
Speaker 1: Kathy nudes were not on display at this party, but
Speaker 1: a lot of the housewives were there. I had no idea,
Speaker 1: Zach how mating people listen to my podcast and girl,
Speaker 1: when I say to you, like all of the real
Speaker 1: Housewives of Salt Lake City ladies were like talking about it.
Speaker 2: Mary was fantastic. Angie k was like, do you like me?
Speaker 2: Do not like me? I say, ANGIEK, I love you.
Speaker 1: You call me hurricane Angie last season, I said yes,
Speaker 1: But this season you redeemed yourself. I love Angie k Whitney.
Speaker 1: Rose was a doll. Lisa Barlow performed. I saw this
Speaker 1: on TikTok that she was. She took over the mic
Speaker 1: and she was doing a cappella. Yeah, she sang a
Speaker 1: Christmas Carol. And when I say to you rain drops.
Speaker 1: One thing I will say about the Real House Watch
Speaker 1: of Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2: They are really who.
Speaker 1: They are on television, like all of them were exactly
Speaker 1: who they are.
Speaker 2: Bron I met Bronwyn for was.
Speaker 1: She wearing caution tape?
Speaker 2: Not this time?
Speaker 1: She had on a pink flora ophite. It may have
Speaker 1: been dochakabana off the runway. Possibly she looks stunning. Karen
Speaker 1: Huger was there. Oh, Karen was there? Karen, she's innocent.
Speaker 2: Yes, well listen.
Speaker 1: Karen also said to me, Zach, She said, I will
Speaker 1: never go on your podcast. What did you tell her?
Speaker 1: She doesn't have to drive to you. She could do
Speaker 1: it virtually, Zach, Why.
Speaker 2: Are you so shady this early? I love you so much.
Speaker 2: Don't do it?
Speaker 1: You are Listen, I said, Karen, you know I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with you. She said, oh, honey, I know that, and
Speaker 1: she said listen. To all of these girls. They love
Speaker 1: to tell me I'm going on Carlos King's podcast, and
Speaker 1: I just sit back and I'm like, he is going
Speaker 1: to make sure to ask all the right questions.
Speaker 2: As like Karen, I made you on. She said, I
Speaker 2: will never go on your podcast, but I love you.
Speaker 3: Why would she never do, Zach?
Speaker 1: Why would she? I was told that maybe she knows
Speaker 1: I will ask all the questions and you ask the
Speaker 1: hard questions. Yeah, it's not going to be a fluff interview.
Speaker 1: You don't do fluff interviews. No, I you know, I
Speaker 1: study from like Diane Sawyer, Barbara Wallpas in Oprah, so
Speaker 1: I have a journalist's background. But I thought that was
Speaker 1: so funny that she told me to my face, like, no, listen,
Speaker 1: you have to respect it when they are honest to
Speaker 1: your face, Like, you just have to love it. I
Speaker 1: hate when you meet them and they're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: love it. They're so sweet to you, but then you
Speaker 1: know that they secretly hate you. It's better when they're
Speaker 1: just like straight up with you. So Karen respects. She
Speaker 1: learned something in the clan clink, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: She's never cod on podcast, Zach. Thanks to you.
Speaker 1: Does she even do pot. I don't think she's ever
Speaker 1: done a podcast.
Speaker 2: To your point, she has it.
Speaker 1: I think the only part she talks to was Andy
Speaker 1: Cohen and Bryce Sanders. Well, she's right up there with
Speaker 1: John Jansen and Brandy Glanville with her.
Speaker 2: Well, John Jess did my podcast.
Speaker 1: He did, Oh, he did with Alexis, but he didn't
Speaker 1: give you the one on He didn't give you the
Speaker 1: exclusive one on one the take to Rice. Yes, Alexis
Speaker 1: was there with John. They were both there. Looked amazing.
Speaker 1: Doctor Wendy looked so gorgeous.
Speaker 2: She she looked beautiful.
Speaker 1: But no, it was She's had a glow up every
Speaker 1: time I see her. She just continues to get like
Speaker 1: more and more beautiful. I don't know how she does it.
Speaker 2: It's she looks good. She looks good.
Speaker 1: So, no, it was a great party. Everybody was there
Speaker 1: except Honey.
Speaker 2: None of the.
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Billy Hills cast members where they are
Speaker 1: not shocking because I expected at least like Kyle and
Speaker 1: Erica Derie. I wonder why interesting, I wonder why Sutton
Speaker 1: wasn't there. I know I least expected Sutton to be
Speaker 1: there because of just the fact that you know, everybody
Speaker 1: has to kiss Kathy's ass.
Speaker 3: I felt.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When Kathy says kiss the ring, Sutton bends over and
Speaker 1: Kathy's like, that's not what I asked for, but thank you.
Speaker 2: You are all five. That's why he has a podcast
Speaker 2: called No Filter. Now we all know. Please subscribe to it.
Speaker 2: It's an amazing podcast. But no, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a great night. Shout out to my boy Spencer.
Speaker 1: Spencer is like this amazing publicist who reps a lot
Speaker 1: of the girls. Oh Spencer, Oh, he doesn't work. We're
Speaker 1: like frienemies, like we love each other, but we're also
Speaker 1: like sassy to each other too.
Speaker 2: Why'd you guys sassy to each other?
Speaker 1: We'd like to bust each other's Yeah, no, he's he's
Speaker 1: a good guy. Shout out to sprintser He made it
Speaker 1: all happen for me, and it was great.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 1: But was even more better is the fact that you
Speaker 1: and I get to sit and chat about the most
Speaker 1: recent episode of the Real Housewives of Billy Hills and Zach.
Speaker 1: Let's get right into it. This seems to be the
Speaker 1: takedown of Kyle Richards season. I mean it, everyone's always
Speaker 1: had their like turn in the hot seat, and I
Speaker 1: feel like Kyle's been a little overdue because that's just
Speaker 1: kind of like the theme on Beverly Hills. We have
Speaker 1: like one target and we all kind of well, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like it's they're trying to take
Speaker 1: down Deret, but it's ending up like backfiring onto Kyle.
Speaker 2: What is that about, you think?
Speaker 1: Because listen, I am a huge Kyle Richards fan, like
Speaker 1: humongs and you know, listen, she is arguably my favorite
Speaker 1: housewife that I haven't worked with. And what I've been
Speaker 1: seeing for these past four episodes is the fact that
Speaker 1: det is delivering. She is Pizza Hut, Domino's, she is Instacart,
Speaker 1: door Dash, Uber eats the premium. She is the two
Speaker 1: ninety nine express fee that you make to be a
Speaker 1: priority order like Derrie is delivering.
Speaker 2: And what is so interesting?
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not looking good for Kyle and
Speaker 1: I and no one around Kyle to me is helping her.
Speaker 1: I feel like Erica is being duplicitous. I think Erica
Speaker 1: is playing both sides of the fence, my opinion. I
Speaker 1: think Erica tells Deree one thing. I think Erica tells
Speaker 1: Kyle another thing. And I think Erica sits back and
Speaker 1: watched both of these girls go at it. But it
Speaker 1: appears to be like everybody wants to see Kyle be
Speaker 1: taken down.
Speaker 2: But I wonder, for you, is it deserving?
Speaker 1: See I like you, I love Kyle, and Kyle is
Speaker 1: the queen of Beverly Hills. But I will say last
Speaker 1: season like this whole like, you know, one foot in,
Speaker 1: one foot out, We're gonna have Morgan on the show,
Speaker 1: and then we're now we're not gonna talk about Morgan,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're gonna not talk about my separation
Speaker 1: from Mauricio until I have to talk about my separation
Speaker 1: from Marico. I just feel like she's been a little
Speaker 1: more guarded and reserved this season and last season that
Speaker 1: I understand the frustration, but you also have to understand
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills is the show about taking down the queen.
Speaker 1: So whoever's wearing the crown at the moment, they're gonna
Speaker 1: try to tear you down at any chance that they get.
Speaker 1: And you can see Sutton and Garcel mostly Ston just
Speaker 1: like salivating, waiting to take down Kyle Richards and trying
Speaker 1: to assert herself as the new leader of the group.
Speaker 1: And I just I think, you know, even the fight
Speaker 1: with Deret, Like, I just feel like I don't fully
Speaker 1: understand Kyle's like reason behind like why she has an
Speaker 1: issue with Deret that I get why she's in the
Speaker 1: hot seat this season. Well, okay, let's have of a
Speaker 1: conversation the flashbacks that I'm seeing of the reason why
Speaker 1: Kyle did not speak to d Read for six months.
Speaker 1: I understand I speaking to somebody for six hours. If
Speaker 1: you're mad, I will even give you six days. But
Speaker 1: in this episode, they flashed back to a scene that
Speaker 1: happened a couple of years ago where Kyle was doing
Speaker 1: her fashion show and Durie made a chicken comment, which
Speaker 1: rain drops every housewife or reality star. They used the
Speaker 1: confessionals to just be tongue in cheek, to be shady,
Speaker 1: and it's part for the course.
Speaker 2: Kyle does it, they all do it.
Speaker 1: So the fact that de Reed made a comment saying,
Speaker 1: I'm saving Kyle's fashion show, Kyle has no idea what
Speaker 1: she's doing. Look, it's not the nicest thing to say.
Speaker 1: I will also be annoyed by it. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's worth not speaking to someone for six months. And
Speaker 1: when Deree is giving her rational. It honestly makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me why Dereet is fed up
Speaker 1: with Kyle, And you are right, The Real Housewives of
Speaker 1: Billy Hills is sort of like the takedown of the Queen.
Speaker 1: Every season, Lisa, Vanda Pump went through it, Lisa Rena
Speaker 1: went through it, you know Yolanda, you know Foster went
Speaker 1: through it. So I never thought about that, and maybe
Speaker 1: this is the season where.
Speaker 3: Kyle's Erica went through it.
Speaker 1: Remember with the legal stuff, they were all just like
Speaker 1: ripping her apart or so I was like, you're on
Speaker 1: the floor, let me kick you in the teeth while
Speaker 1: you're down, Like they come for you when it's your turn,
Speaker 1: they come for you hard. I just like you said, like,
Speaker 1: there's so many of these little things that Kyle's like
Speaker 1: dredging up from the past that I'm like, why wasn't
Speaker 1: it an issue then? Like why are we rehashing this
Speaker 1: five years later?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: I think Kyle is just I think Kyle's more upset
Speaker 1: about the way Durite was talking about the Morgan stuff
Speaker 1: so freely in interviews and on Watch What Happens Live,
Speaker 1: and like the fact that Durit maybe wasn't as loyal
Speaker 1: with protecting their relationship or whatever Kyle has going on
Speaker 1: with Morgan. You know, I think the fact that Dury
Speaker 1: was also kind of questioning it with the other women
Speaker 1: last season, I think that's kind of what really bothered
Speaker 1: Kyle more than anything. And now she's just trying to
Speaker 1: grasp at straws because she knows that she can't bring
Speaker 1: up Morgan, and Morgan can't be a talking point because
Speaker 1: now we're not allowed to say Morgan's name.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the fact that Morgan was
Speaker 1: introduced to us courtesy of Kyle through the show, and
Speaker 1: now if you mentioned her, it does appear that Kyle
Speaker 1: has a problem with it. Total bullshit. Like listen, Morgan
Speaker 1: signed up for the show last season. She came on,
Speaker 1: she did the tattoos, she was at so many different events,
Speaker 1: she filmed the entire season. She continues to be We
Speaker 1: just saw her in the Daily Mail out with Kyle
Speaker 1: and Lisa Rinna. So like Morgan's Now, you know, Morgan's
Speaker 1: not a private citizen. She's a work at a bank, right,
Speaker 1: She's a country music star. She writes all these love
Speaker 1: songs that everybody's been picking apart about her secret lover
Speaker 1: and like, you know, her lover from Beverly Hills and
Speaker 1: they're at the Beverly Hiltson and the parazzi or following us,
Speaker 1: like she's Melissa Gorgo on display but just in country
Speaker 1: version and so and now all of a sudden, she's like,
Speaker 1: now I don't want to be part of this life.
Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, it's very Chapel Roone. It's like,
Speaker 1: I want to be a pop star, but I don't
Speaker 1: want you know, what comes with being a pop star.
Speaker 1: It's like you have to pick a lane. You picked
Speaker 1: your lane, and like this is what it is. We
Speaker 1: can't not say Morgan's name anymore. You know, you had
Speaker 1: me on display. So I've never listened to Morgan's music.
Speaker 1: You know, I only heard of Morgan when I learned
Speaker 1: that she was allegedly seeing Kyle Richards. I don't know
Speaker 1: her catalog of music. I don't know if she won
Speaker 1: a country music award. I don't know if bib Wo
Speaker 1: magazine named her one of the top you know, pop
Speaker 1: stars of the twenty first century. I don't know anything
Speaker 1: about Morgan. I know Morgan Wallin Whalen. Whatever you're not
Speaker 1: dying to see this love story, sorry documentary that Kyle
Speaker 1: Richards is producing about her life.
Speaker 2: Come again, you don't know.
Speaker 1: About the document Kyle's been filming this duck documentary for
Speaker 1: like the past year, following Morgan Wade's life and her country.
Speaker 1: She's on tour and she, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: she like had some sort of health scare and like
Speaker 1: Kyle's like been following her around with cameras like capturing.
Speaker 1: It's like the most anticipated film of the year. Carlos.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, I thought it was Wicked with Cynthia
Speaker 1: and Ariana Grande. Wait a second, are you saying to
Speaker 1: me that the Oscar Coutinder is the Morganwaite documentary produced
Speaker 1: by Kyle Richard's Productions, Inc. Yep, right after American Woman,
Speaker 1: it's the Morgan Wade documentary.
Speaker 3: And we're here for I can't wait on my seat.
Speaker 2: Are you bullshitting me?
Speaker 1: No? It's literally like this is should They announced this
Speaker 1: and everybody was like nobody asked for this documentary, and
Speaker 1: she's like her life is just so fascinating, where like, Kyle,
Speaker 1: you're in love, Like the only reason you're producing a
Speaker 1: documentary about this person is because you're clearly in love
Speaker 1: with them, because nobody is asking for this. Nobody knew
Speaker 1: who Morgan Wade was before you know, you were in
Speaker 1: the music video and she came on Beverly Hills gonna
Speaker 1: mike you folling love with me and now I don't
Speaker 1: want to be on your TUV anyway.
Speaker 2: Is that an actual lyric?
Speaker 1: Well, it was the lyric, and then I added the
Speaker 1: TV part because now it's like I want to make
Speaker 1: you in love with me, and now I don't want
Speaker 1: you to be in love with me because I don't
Speaker 1: want to be on camera anymore.
Speaker 3: But you only picked apart her lyrics.
Speaker 1: She has so many songs and it's like I'm in
Speaker 1: love with and we're in a secret love affair and
Speaker 1: we're at the Beverly Hilton hotwn the pop rots here
Speaker 1: catchin us and we'll never be together. Like people are
Speaker 1: like these lyrics sound a little like they're about Kyle.
Speaker 2: The only way I knowledge is Dwayne Wade. I did not.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I care. And this is no
Speaker 1: shade to Morgathy. Morgan is a great woman. She has tattoos,
Speaker 1: she looks great. Whatever what this is, what's going to
Speaker 1: be the issue because I'm listening. I'm very honest. I
Speaker 1: love Kyle, I really do. The issue was going to
Speaker 1: be this and this is the mistake that a lot
Speaker 1: of housewives make. Okay m hm. It's when you.
Speaker 2: When you hold people accountable.
Speaker 1: Throughout the seasons of the show, we saw Kyle try
Speaker 1: to hold Denise Richards accountable for allegedly having an affair
Speaker 1: with Brandy Gandil.
Speaker 3: Yep. We saw scissor gap.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We saw Kyle try to hold someting accountable when she
Speaker 1: was going through with Dina Jenkins. We saw Kyle try
Speaker 1: to hold Rika Jane accountable when the whole thing about
Speaker 1: returning the earrings. So when it's your turn and you
Speaker 1: tell the cast you this off limit, Yeah, that's not great,
Speaker 1: only because people have receipts of you doing that to
Speaker 1: everyone else, So why are you exempt from it happening
Speaker 1: to you? And I just don't think it's that big
Speaker 1: of a deal to data woman if that's what she's
Speaker 1: doing allegedly. I just so I pulled up the lyrics
Speaker 1: for you. So it's one of Morgan Wade's songs that
Speaker 1: they thought was about Kyle Richards. It's called the twenty
Speaker 1: seven Club, where she refers to a Beverly Hills hottie
Speaker 1: that she's in love with, and she says, I'm laying
Speaker 1: in bed at the chateau with someone on I saw
Speaker 1: on TV, but I barely even know small talk for
Speaker 1: a second, then I gotta leave, walk out, separate. You're famous,
Speaker 1: you can't be seen with me. It sounds like it's
Speaker 1: about Kyle.
Speaker 2: Do you think they're playing with the audience?
Speaker 1: Like? What, Okay, listen, you and I are both openly
Speaker 1: gay men, right, and one thing about our community is
Speaker 1: a large percentage of us do not believe in outing
Speaker 1: somebody right, That that's somebody's personal, you know, decision to
Speaker 1: make and no one should ever be out in and
Speaker 1: I stand for that. How does it make you feel though,
Speaker 1: And maybe you don't feel anyway, but as an oply
Speaker 1: gay man, do you feel any kind of way about
Speaker 1: this being a storyline on this show? Do you think
Speaker 1: it's unfair to bring this up and not really be
Speaker 1: as transparent with it as one would hope.
Speaker 2: When you were on a reality show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like at the beginning of it, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, like we should were. Let's not out let
Speaker 1: her go on her journey, and I've always thought she's
Speaker 1: been in less of a sexuality journey and more of
Speaker 1: just like an identity crisis. Right, she's not a wife anymore.
Speaker 1: The kids are grown, so she's not that active mom
Speaker 1: running around with kids anymore. Like her life has changing.
Speaker 1: She's going through this metamorphosis. However, when they started doing
Speaker 1: the music video and then when Morgan's lyrics started coming
Speaker 1: into question and we saw them tattooing each other on
Speaker 1: the show and you know, all of this stuff, then
Speaker 1: it's like, well, now it kind of feels like you
Speaker 1: guys are playing with the audience and you're kind of
Speaker 1: dancing on this line without really addressing it head on.
Speaker 1: And to me, you know, I did feel kind of
Speaker 1: like the music video to me was a really big
Speaker 1: one because they're literally in the tub together and they
Speaker 1: have the strawberries and they're like just about to make out,
Speaker 1: and so it is a little gay baby, and it's like,
Speaker 1: just be honest about like what you are you questioning?
Speaker 1: Like what it like Normally I wouldn't ask these questions,
Speaker 1: but you keep kind of teasing the audience with all
Speaker 1: these little things that it does then bring this into question. Because,
Speaker 1: like you said, you've lived your life on the show
Speaker 1: for thirteen fourteen years now, and we've seen everything, you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen you live your life out fully completely that like,
Speaker 1: you know, why now are you starting to not be
Speaker 1: fully transparent with what's going on with your life?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I think that is going to really be a
Speaker 1: big issue. And when it comes to what's been going
Speaker 1: on lately, I want to shoot gears a bit and
Speaker 1: we'll get back into the show. Teddy Mellicamp revealed on
Speaker 1: her podcast that she is living with Kyle. I mean,
Speaker 1: better than the horse trainer, right, Listen. I fully support
Speaker 1: her journey. Whatever she wants to do with her life,
Speaker 1: I support her. But I mean it's nice that she
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's weird that she moved out
Speaker 1: of the house though, But listen, I love Teddy and
Speaker 1: she wants to live with Kyle. They could be roomies.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle doesn't have Mauricio and so, you know,
Speaker 1: Bunker sisters, not Bunker sister like the point of sisters.
Speaker 1: I love Teddy too. It's just the thing that a
Speaker 1: lot of people obviously are intimating, is that, listen, Teddy
Speaker 1: is the daughter of John mellencount, which means there's no
Speaker 1: shortage of money. So the idea of like moving in
Speaker 1: with somebody instead of getting your own place, a lot
Speaker 1: of people are questioning what that looks like and why
Speaker 1: that isn't even happening. It's just, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people do think that's very weird. And Teddy was
Speaker 1: brought up in this episode when it came to Dereete
Speaker 1: not being close to her but being friends with her,
Speaker 1: and deree who remembers everything she said because everybody else
Speaker 1: got them wrong. When they're like, no, you say you
Speaker 1: weren't friends with her, she said no, actually said we
Speaker 1: are friends, We're not close.
Speaker 2: What did you make of that whole dialogue?
Speaker 1: It was strange that like that was part of one
Speaker 1: that that was even part of the dialogue, and two
Speaker 1: that we even decided to put that into the like
Speaker 1: the editors decided to focus on that because that was like,
Speaker 1: of all the things that I'm sure they were fighting
Speaker 1: about that night, Like that wasn't a five minute argument
Speaker 1: that we saw on the show, Like there were other
Speaker 1: things that were brought up that why we chose to
Speaker 1: lean into that was an interesting choice, But I get
Speaker 1: Dured's point. Like, I mean, I'm sure you're the same way.
Speaker 1: Especially in LA you have a million friends and they're
Speaker 1: still your friends, but you're not particularly close to them,
Speaker 1: you know. I think Kyle and Teddy do have a
Speaker 1: closer relationship. To your point about you know, her dad
Speaker 1: having endless resources for her, there's a difference I think
Speaker 1: when you're going through a separation, where I mean, it's
Speaker 1: one thing to have that financial support, but I think
Speaker 1: it's another thing to have an emotional support. And I
Speaker 1: think Kyle and Teddy are probably leaning on each other
Speaker 1: as they're each going through their separations, and so there's
Speaker 1: kind of like an emotional bond that I think they
Speaker 1: probably have right now going through that. And that's probably
Speaker 1: why she made the choice to move in with Kyle
Speaker 1: rather than to move into like a hotel alone or
Speaker 1: to rent another place on her own. Probably just doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be alone right now. But the dured stuff,
Speaker 1: I didn't understand why everybody was like, you're saying that
Speaker 1: Teddy's not your friend. I was like, she's saying that
Speaker 1: she's her friend, but they're like, durit's not calling up
Speaker 1: Teddy and like crying to her on the phone about
Speaker 1: you know PK living at the Beverly Hilton.
Speaker 2: Do we think p K and Deiy will divorce?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Didn't you say that it's a sham divorce.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Why are you asking me? I should
Speaker 3: be asking you that question.
Speaker 1: You're like, you came with receipts, prove timeline everything. It's
Speaker 1: a fake separation, puppy gate all over again. Just to clarify,
Speaker 1: I said, allegedly, this is what I heard, and as
Speaker 1: Zach a.
Speaker 2: Little team for you.
Speaker 1: I got a constant all night at Kathy Hilton's party
Speaker 1: about my comment.
Speaker 3: As you should you spilled the team.
Speaker 1: You didn't drop the receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots everything.
Speaker 3: I was waiting.
Speaker 1: I was like, what does he know? Was he you know?
Speaker 1: Did he overhear something at a party?
Speaker 2: I overheard many things a party, but I don't repeat
Speaker 2: them often. No. The thing is, it's just thinks you hear.
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills is a small town.
Speaker 3: My industry is a small chown.
Speaker 2: I never was said. It was a fact.
Speaker 1: I said, is what I heard, and then I said,
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. Listen, I heard that PK is
Speaker 1: not PK is not happy with me. Is he happy
Speaker 1: in general?
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, because my thing is this. My
Speaker 2: thing is this child.
Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the King,
Speaker 1: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 1: I heard that PK is PK.
Speaker 2: Is not happy with me?
Speaker 1: Is he happy in general?
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, because my thing is this. My
Speaker 2: thing is this.
Speaker 1: I said in my podcast last week, and it was
Speaker 1: evident in this episode too that del Reet obviously is
Speaker 1: on an island, right and the only person who's trying
Speaker 1: to throw her a bone is Boss Bows. Like I
Speaker 1: think Bose is really trying to like befriend her, and
Speaker 1: to me, it's working. I think, you know, the man
Speaker 1: who she leaned on for so many years is not
Speaker 1: you know, a shoulder to cry on anymore. So she's
Speaker 1: on this island trying to like reason with Kylin and
Speaker 1: obviously protect her job. But then you have people like
Speaker 1: you know, Garcel who's challenging her, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people just aren't liking that at all. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of people think Garcel's being too hard on Derey,
Speaker 1: A lot of people think Sutton is being too hard
Speaker 1: on Deriy. Do you is that what you're seeing as
Speaker 1: you're watching this season two. Well, I think Garcela and
Speaker 1: Sutton every season go into trying to find their next target.
Speaker 1: I feel like they've consistently done this, and the fans
Speaker 1: have given them a pass for the past couple of
Speaker 1: seasons because they've been, you know, sort of the fan favorites,
Speaker 1: because they went against Lisarna and they went against Erica
Speaker 1: when it wasn't popular to be on Erica or Rinna's side.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, the fans very much just
Speaker 1: gravitated towards whoever was opposite of the person that they
Speaker 1: hated the most on the show. And so I think
Speaker 1: Garcel and Sutton have gotten a past for that, and
Speaker 1: I think Garcel and Sutton are trying that again this season,
Speaker 1: and the fans are kind of over it, especially with
Speaker 1: how Garcel has persistently gone at Deriy without real in
Speaker 1: my opinion, real kind of cause like I get it
Speaker 1: she doesn't like her, but then it's like just be
Speaker 1: like I don't, but like it's I don't know, I
Speaker 1: feel like deurit's tried with Garcel, and Garsel just doesn't
Speaker 1: give her the time of day. And so I do
Speaker 1: see that pattern happening again this season. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, that tactic that Garcela and have had of
Speaker 1: like picking you know who they think is going to
Speaker 1: be the most hated on the cast and piling onto them.
Speaker 1: I just think that that tactic has expired because I
Speaker 1: think everybody went in thinking, oh, yeah, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: a you know, Dorito's crunch wrap supreme and we're just
Speaker 1: gonna eat it all day, all season long. And Dere
Speaker 1: it's like, nah, I'm a bag of flaming hot Dorito's
Speaker 1: and you better watch yourself. And so she's coming in hot,
Speaker 1: she's standing her ground, she's smoking her cigarettes, and the
Speaker 1: fans are loving it because Derey has given us ruthless
Speaker 1: and toothless and they're happy with it. And so, you know, Derey,
Speaker 1: unfortunate or not unfortunately, but I think unexpectedly is becoming
Speaker 1: the fan favorite because she's been a lot more ruthless
Speaker 1: this season and it doesn't feel like she's being that
Speaker 1: curated as we've seen her in past season. And this
Speaker 1: is what I've been trying to say to the girls.
Speaker 1: You cannot play to the audience.
Speaker 2: You know, you just.
Speaker 1: You if you are, if you live for the applause
Speaker 1: or died by the booze. And like I said before,
Speaker 1: you know, I've said things about Garcela and friendship that
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was genuine, and so social media
Speaker 1: read me for philth to the point where I've said
Speaker 1: this on my podcast before, Garcell and son commenting on
Speaker 1: it and I had to like explain to them like
Speaker 1: I was just saying this, but your fans took it to.
Speaker 2: Another direction in a very dark place.
Speaker 1: And then garceill to make a comment I want to
Speaker 1: say two years ago that and I love garcel but
Speaker 1: when she made this comment, I was like, if I
Speaker 1: can talk to her, like please do not get caught
Speaker 1: him in social media. Garcia made a comment one saying
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm the fan favorite, and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I saw that, I Zach, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Not only did it not only did like I mean
Speaker 1: you and I am sure had that reaction, but I
Speaker 1: think it was on a talk show, right, It's on
Speaker 1: something talk and the audience was like, like they didn't
Speaker 1: even react to her that.
Speaker 3: I think the way she was expecting them to.
Speaker 1: I think she was expecting an applause, and I remember
Speaker 1: the audience was kind of like Oh, that's an interesting
Speaker 1: because when you assert yourself very much the way Sutton's
Speaker 1: trying to assert herself as like the head of the
Speaker 1: group this season, it's like, you can't do you can't
Speaker 1: assert yourself as that. You have to just kind of naturally,
Speaker 1: you know, let that position, like Kyle just kind of
Speaker 1: naturally after vander Pump left, let the crown eventually kind
Speaker 1: of fall into her because she was the glue that
Speaker 1: held the show together. She was the og that the
Speaker 1: fans recognized that she did kind of become the anchor
Speaker 1: of the show. And I think she'll remain the anchor
Speaker 1: of the show as long as she stays on it.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think Sutton and Garcel have pandered
Speaker 1: and you know, played the audience a little too much,
Speaker 1: and I think now the audience is just becoming a
Speaker 1: bit more savvy because they've seen the same tricks and
Speaker 1: they're just not as interested because I think, like we
Speaker 1: discussed on my show, the audience is fickle and they
Speaker 1: may love you this season, but they may not love
Speaker 1: you next season. And you know, you just have to
Speaker 1: be yoursel self organically and they'll love you when you're
Speaker 1: at least who you are, you know, and they'll come around.
Speaker 1: If they hate you one season, they'll probably love you
Speaker 1: again the next season, and it'll just continue to bounce
Speaker 1: back and forth. But you can't be afraid of having
Speaker 1: a bad season.
Speaker 2: You cannot. You cannot, you cannot. And listen.
Speaker 1: Based on these episodes, it does appear that this and
Speaker 1: again I'm basing this only off of what's been happening online,
Speaker 1: this seems to be a season where Guardsell and Son
Speaker 1: are not the fan favorites. No, not at all, not
Speaker 1: from what I like. Normally, I feel like people are like,
Speaker 1: you know, eating them out, like Denise and Brandy. But
Speaker 1: in this time, the fans are like that, Zach oh Man,
Speaker 1: I told you. The editor is on standby.
Speaker 2: Listen. I have never I think, in the history of
Speaker 2: my podcast this speechless. Oh shit, Zach. I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: fucking eviscerated from this. But listen, listen, you.
Speaker 3: Will, I will, And that's okay.
Speaker 1: Listen. I, I you know, have wallpaper with all the
Speaker 1: mean things people say about me on the internet. It
Speaker 1: keeps the bills paid.
Speaker 2: I love it for you, probably the more honest.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel this way, but I
Speaker 1: feel like the more like just unfiltered and honest that
Speaker 1: you are. Like eventually a lot of that, like loud
Speaker 1: noise on the internet. Either, I've just become so immune
Speaker 1: to it that I kind of just tune it out.
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's kind of it kind of
Speaker 1: like goes away at some point because they're so like
Speaker 1: they can't be outraged with you every you know, every day,
Speaker 1: that eventually like it's just not as shocking to them,
Speaker 1: and then they learn how to have fun with it.
Speaker 2: Oh no, Listen, at the end of the day, this
Speaker 2: is what I'll say.
Speaker 1: People love authenticity, right, Zach. You're I'm playing up to
Speaker 1: the audience. You're not playing up a character. This is
Speaker 1: really who you are, and I think people accept Like, look,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I may not agree
Speaker 1: with everything he says, but that's who he is.
Speaker 2: He's not going to change for us. I'm not mad
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 1: It is what it is, and that's what these realities
Speaker 1: starts need to get. Because even as I was watching
Speaker 1: this episode bellby Hills, I felt like, this is my opinion,
Speaker 1: I felt like producers or somebody told something a Garsell
Speaker 1: to challenge Derey and because it did not seem genuine
Speaker 1: to me, Like when they were on the bus and
Speaker 1: Drey pretty much, you know, settled well what was happening
Speaker 1: within her and Kyle, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: something brings up something that was so random that to me,
Speaker 1: only production could I've seen.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the fact that Eric Cop was
Speaker 2: whispering to Kyle. It was like Derey was screaming so
Speaker 2: loud that I don't think any of the cast members
Speaker 2: saw that. But I digress.
Speaker 1: So when you when you're watching it and you see
Speaker 1: Sun trying so hard, I think that's the I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing that a lot of the audience isn't,
Speaker 1: you know, gravitating towards anymore. It just seems like you're
Speaker 1: picking on Derie, and I think that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're picking on Derey, and Derey is
Speaker 1: doing a fantastic job as standing up for herself.
Speaker 2: I didn't like what Sun was doing, and I love
Speaker 2: the fact that Durie got her right together, yell of
Speaker 2: her face, and so it's like, oh, y'all let me
Speaker 2: dress like bish please.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the other thing with Sutton in that
Speaker 1: moment on the bus too, is like, Sutton was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just bringing this up because I don't want to
Speaker 1: be in a group where, you know, we talk about
Speaker 1: people behind each other's backs and we won't say it
Speaker 1: to their face. Erica and I was just like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: were you not the one that had everybody over at
Speaker 1: your house when the Girardi stuff came out behind Erica's
Speaker 1: back to have a meeting about how you guys were
Speaker 1: all going to approach Erica moving forward. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: guys are this is Beverly Hills. You're supposed to talk
Speaker 1: about each other's backs. It's like embedded in the fabric
Speaker 1: of la is like friend grop. You talked shit about
Speaker 1: each other. But Erica wasn't even talking crap about Derey.
Speaker 1: She just made like an under her breath comment to
Speaker 1: who was she talking to, to Bo's or whoever she
Speaker 1: was next to, or to Kyle that it was just
Speaker 1: weird that Sen's like, well, I'm only bringing this up
Speaker 1: because I just don't want to be in a friend
Speaker 1: group where we talk about each other behind each other's backs.
Speaker 1: When Sutton is like the most shady behind people's backs
Speaker 1: and her confessionals, oh the most and listen. We love that,
Speaker 1: you know, we love that for son, but listen and
Speaker 1: we love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why I think the moment didn't land is because
Speaker 1: the audience is like, no, I don't like what like
Speaker 1: you're bring Like no, A producer told you, Erica is
Speaker 1: not clocked in this season. So call Erica out and
Speaker 1: try to stir some stuff between Dery and Erica and
Speaker 1: see if you can, cause you know, some friction there
Speaker 1: and when and she delivered her lines and Drea it's
Speaker 1: like not today and Teddy me like Teddy got so
Speaker 1: much like Teddy was talked about more in that one
Speaker 1: episode than Garcell's given us all season. Show me the
Speaker 1: footage showed me the most compelling scene that you got
Speaker 1: from Garsel this season, Carlos, we're four episodes.
Speaker 2: In a Garcel's defense, we've got more out of bows.
Speaker 1: She gave us champagne and wine glasses, and Dared was
Speaker 1: okay with the champagne. Dreet's like I am on an island.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to complain about getting champagne in a
Speaker 1: wine glass. I'm gonna take it because I need all
Speaker 1: the allies I can get right now. I listen, that's
Speaker 1: the best part about that, because it was that's really
Speaker 1: the case. She's like, look, normally i'm'll have an issue
Speaker 1: with this, but I need more prison enemies.
Speaker 2: At this point. I will say this.
Speaker 1: I will say this, and I love to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on it, and I'm gonna go on record saying
Speaker 1: this Bow's is the best addition to this case that
Speaker 1: I've seen in like four or five seasons. I I
Speaker 1: I am so obsessed with this woman.
Speaker 2: She seems to go ahead like it's natural.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm obsessed, natural and like such a voice
Speaker 1: of reason, like a voice of the audience. Right, So
Speaker 1: like when Kyle and deiy are fighting at the table
Speaker 1: about an Instagram story and Bo's in her confessionals and
Speaker 1: in the after show, she's kind of just like, what
Speaker 1: are they even fighting about? Like She's like, I don't
Speaker 1: even understand what their issue is. It seems so silly
Speaker 1: and so base and so dumb. Like she's just like,
Speaker 1: I like her and Jennifer Tilley are just like we
Speaker 1: just want to like eat her.
Speaker 3: Dinner, Like we don't understand what this whole fight is about.
Speaker 1: And I feel like the audience feels that way too,
Speaker 1: And so she I think is just so authentic in herself,
Speaker 1: and it's refreshing because it's not like somebody coming in
Speaker 1: and trying to have a moment. Like Bose doesn't need
Speaker 1: to insert herself into the drama. She just very organically
Speaker 1: commands presence at the table when she walks into a room.
Speaker 1: And I think it's very refreshing because, like you said,
Speaker 1: we're only four episodes deep, and she I think has
Speaker 1: already won over the audience.
Speaker 2: I I just, I just I just think she's great.
Speaker 2: I think she's great.
Speaker 1: I like even the story about her dating the scammer.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what it is.
Speaker 1: And I'm and oh god, this is gonna be so messy,
Speaker 1: but I have to be honest. All of those girls
Speaker 1: need to take a page out of Bo's book.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell you why. She's not trying to
Speaker 2: have a moment. She's trying to.
Speaker 1: Tell you more about her life and and that's what
Speaker 1: she's giving to us.
Speaker 2: It's the small details. And listen.
Speaker 1: I fell in love of Garsel and Sudden their first
Speaker 1: couple of seasons instantly because I felt like they were
Speaker 1: dropping the nuggets about their personal lives that I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's interesting and and it was natural, and I think
Speaker 1: what has happened to them?
Speaker 2: That happens a lot.
Speaker 1: Of reality stars who who think they're the fan favorites.
Speaker 1: They start to just clock in and asks the tough
Speaker 1: questions and start an argument and then go home and
Speaker 1: say I did my job for the day, instead of
Speaker 1: living in the moment. What's what's what's happening this season
Speaker 1: to me is this Erica Jane does not want to
Speaker 1: be there.
Speaker 2: She's not clocked in at all.
Speaker 1: She's she's not she misses Renna right, she's and I
Speaker 1: love Erica.
Speaker 2: Erica's great.
Speaker 1: I think Erica, when I say don't want to be there,
Speaker 1: I don't mean being on the show. I think I
Speaker 1: just don't think she's present and doubt in this season.
Speaker 1: I think Kyle really, I think and Kyle Hart of hearts,
Speaker 1: she probably wishes she took a season off to really
Speaker 1: to really understand what's happening with her feelings with Morgan allegedly.
Speaker 2: I think she wants to figure that out.
Speaker 1: She's going through a separation with Mauricio, and she has
Speaker 1: every right to me to ask for a season off.
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. I can't take another
Speaker 1: Derey versus Kyle. It was cute the first two episodes.
Speaker 1: I was here for it. I am fucking over it is.
Speaker 1: Give me Melissa Gorga, Teresa JULYI sprinkle cookies. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: are you gonna order her sprinkle cookies? I will order
Speaker 1: Teresa's New York Times bestselling cookbooks.
Speaker 3: With Kylon Dree.
Speaker 1: I know in the the preview for next week's episode,
Speaker 1: we see that there's like a heart to heart that
Speaker 1: the two of them have where they're like crying. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: we have too much going on in our lives that
Speaker 1: we don't need to be fighting about this. So I'm
Speaker 1: hoping we do get to see some sort of resolution
Speaker 1: because that's kind of what the shows are. And I
Speaker 1: feel like the show Housewives in general thrives when you
Speaker 1: have these fights and we are through it in four
Speaker 1: or five episodes, and then we move on to the
Speaker 1: next part of the season, right, you know, and there's
Speaker 1: constantly there's conflict, there's a resolution, and then you know,
Speaker 1: the potato, the hot Potato moves to another housewife to
Speaker 1: kind of carry the next two or three episodes with
Speaker 1: her storyline, right, and what's going on in her life,
Speaker 1: rather than it being this same fight all season long,
Speaker 1: like Puppy Gate or something where it just it's so
Speaker 1: dragged out and the audience gets fatigued by it. And
Speaker 1: at least we know that by the end of this
Speaker 1: Kyle and Dury seem to be in a better place
Speaker 1: because we've seen them hanging out a lot together since
Speaker 1: the season has wrapped, so at least there is some
Speaker 1: sort of resolution.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think from what it looks like, I think Sutton
Speaker 1: and Deured are probably going to have the next you know,
Speaker 1: beef that's gonna come, because I hear Derey kind of
Speaker 1: really comes at it with everyone all season long. So wait,
Speaker 1: so are you alleging that after Kyle in Deury makeup
Speaker 1: and hopefully is by the next episode, that Derrey is
Speaker 1: coming for Sutton, maybe Garsel and maybe some of the
Speaker 1: other girls. Yes, And I think most of it's going
Speaker 1: to come with Sutton and Dery because listen, one thing
Speaker 1: about and this is what I do like about Sign
Speaker 1: is she does have these moments where she very organically
Speaker 1: will say something a little aloof and it's the wrong
Speaker 1: thing to say, but it like just kind of lights
Speaker 1: a spark and it runs with a wildfire and it
Speaker 1: carries the season. You know, she does have those moments
Speaker 1: where she can be really good when she's just not
Speaker 1: in her head. That's when she thrives when she's just
Speaker 1: organically herself. So I think that there's gonna be more
Speaker 1: of that dree versus sut In drama that's gonna come
Speaker 1: and we're gonna see, you know, Eric's gonna drop her
Speaker 1: new single. I do agree with you. I think Erica
Speaker 1: went through two really tough seasons and after that she's
Speaker 1: kind of just like, I'm gonna let the rest of
Speaker 1: you kind of carry the show and I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be here and I'm gonna, you know, do my little
Speaker 1: thing here and there, and when my moments to come
Speaker 1: in and shine are gonna come, I'll step in. But
Speaker 1: outside of that, like she really didn't even give you know,
Speaker 1: Sutton much on the bus. You know, she kind of
Speaker 1: just let Durite step in and take that fight and listen,
Speaker 1: I'll give a housewife one season, Right, you had two
Speaker 1: rough seasons back to back.
Speaker 3: I get.
Speaker 1: I'll give you one season to kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: sit on the bench, be cool. And then the following season.
Speaker 1: I need you to bring it again, because like you
Speaker 1: can't just keep coasting season after season. And they do
Speaker 1: love Erica, but like this, you know, I need her
Speaker 1: to give a little more here, even if it's like.
Speaker 3: Talk about your dating life or something.
Speaker 2: I miss Erica. Yeah, listen, we fun in love Erica
Speaker 2: because again, and this is and the Housewives.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, and apparently you are, it's it's the
Speaker 1: little things. I promise you Housewives, it's the little things.
Speaker 1: It's it's the reason why we love Mary Cosby. It's
Speaker 1: the little thing she does. You're like, that is so interesting.
Speaker 1: Is the reason why Brahm is great. It's the reason
Speaker 1: why I am a Lisa Bralostan. The fact that she
Speaker 1: got pissed off of seventeen c cittying, like is shit
Speaker 1: like that, And I'm like, it's so small and so
Speaker 1: like minute that I'm obsessed with it because that's real
Speaker 1: conversations and what's happening in Beverly Hills this season so far,
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like no one's having real moments
Speaker 1: and just trying to get to know each other in
Speaker 1: real place. Besides Bows, I think she's the only one,
Speaker 1: like I'll tell you guys a little bit about myself.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with Sutton, and I
Speaker 1: want to know what's going on with her. I want
Speaker 1: to know what Garcelle is going through outside of the
Speaker 1: Lifetime movies.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like? Who are you dating?
Speaker 2: Is it hard today?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What's going on with you?
Speaker 1: Know?
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Will Smith slapping Chris Rock?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Give me something? Do you know what I mean? Give something?
Speaker 2: I miss Erica Jane so much.
Speaker 1: My favorite top five seasons of Beverly Hills of all
Speaker 1: time will always include the two seasons where Eric could
Speaker 1: check these broads and she was on fucking fire. I
Speaker 1: loved it is when she had the first chair at
Speaker 1: the reunion. She earned it, And granted, I'm happy she
Speaker 1: hasn't have to deal with the legalities of Tom's case.
Speaker 1: But I want Erica to show up and call bitches out.
Speaker 1: I want her to be like, no, bitch.
Speaker 2: I want to say, like, fuck you something? Why are you?
Speaker 2: Why you? Why are you worried about what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I want to say, dere
Speaker 2: do me a favor, stop throwing me under the bus
Speaker 2: and stop me including me even stupid ass ship with Kyle,
Speaker 2: Like that's the raic I want to show up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, that was on the bus was
Speaker 1: a perfect opportunity for her to call out. And she's
Speaker 1: like something, you're gonna be bothered by me making an
Speaker 1: offhanded comment under my breath and you're saying that like what,
Speaker 1: I talked shit behind Durreid's back, Like no, you're the
Speaker 1: queen of talking shit behind people's backs, Like that's her
Speaker 1: operating but like you know, and then listen, there's nobody
Speaker 1: that can make something rattle in her boots more than
Speaker 1: Derit or Erica. And that would have been a perfect
Speaker 1: transferred for Erica to talk in. Agreed, agreed, agreed, So listen,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm. I'm happy to hear we're gonna move
Speaker 1: on from Kyle versus Deree.
Speaker 2: I was into it. I'm slowly getting over it.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's sort of like this hamster wheel of
Speaker 1: petty that isn't as gritty or interesting as a Kyle
Speaker 1: and Lisa Vanda pump break up apprenticeship like that have
Speaker 1: more legs, that have more teeth you had? Can you
Speaker 1: know Lisa's husband inserted himself in it, so it had
Speaker 1: different degrees of like interest. This one I'm not interested
Speaker 1: in anymore. Move past this bullshit. I want to know
Speaker 1: more about bohs. I want to know more about her,
Speaker 1: what she has going on, make her happen. And if
Speaker 1: I can get Sutton and Dery to like have a
Speaker 1: versus moment, then you got me back. But as of now,
Speaker 1: this is the last episode of it. There's the big
Speaker 1: fight that's coming up at Erica's like a single launch party,
Speaker 1: where like DEII it's yelling at Kyle and Sutton and
Speaker 1: like there's that whole like screaming match that we have
Speaker 1: coming up. So I think that's probably going to kick
Speaker 1: off the whole Sutton and Dereek drama.
Speaker 2: Well I hope, so, I hope, so.
Speaker 3: Zach, Yeah, we need something more than that, we.
Speaker 2: Need something more. I'm over it. It was cute, it
Speaker 2: was cute, I was into it was everything. I'm over it.
Speaker 1: Move on because because to me, it's not is it
Speaker 1: doesn't have enough meat to the bones.
Speaker 2: It's just it's.
Speaker 1: It's honey, give me a Gar's cell, Paul of a
Speaker 1: sudden and bitch, I'm back in it.
Speaker 3: That would have.
Speaker 1: Me compelled because you know that they have just been
Speaker 1: like a game of Survivor, allies to the end, and
Speaker 1: like I want them to really, you know, not turn
Speaker 1: on each other, but turn on each other, like I want,
Speaker 1: you know something, because that would at least, you know,
Speaker 1: give some real stakes. Yes, and it'll be it'll be unexpected.
Speaker 1: And I think they know so much about each other.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: You do not want to be on Sutton's bad side. No,
Speaker 1: because you can't predict what she's gonna say. You can't
Speaker 1: predict what she's gonna do.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Listen, if it's the right time of day and she
Speaker 1: has enough vodka in her system, she's going to go
Speaker 1: for it. Teddy that she keeps it in her purse allegedly.
Speaker 2: Allegedly, Oh, Zach, I could talk to you all night long,
Speaker 2: my love, my love, my love.
Speaker 1: Please let the world know, because after this, your phone's
Speaker 1: gonna be reaging with people.
Speaker 2: I be love you or hating you, or you're going
Speaker 2: to hear it from my housewives.
Speaker 1: And I love it all for you, baby, but probably
Speaker 1: all of the above.
Speaker 2: I love it. Okay.
Speaker 1: Let the rain drops know where they can find you.
Speaker 1: Follow you, support you, your social media and your amazing,
Speaker 1: amazing success fall podcast. Yes, well, rain Drops, you can
Speaker 1: come and bring the storm. If you ever want to
Speaker 1: get zactivated at a podcast, it's called No Filter with
Speaker 1: Zach Peter. It's a daily podcast that you can listen
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Speaker 1: You can follow me at Just Playing Zach all over
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Speaker 1: And Yeah, I always keep the tea high and I
Speaker 1: always keep the receipts on standby. Love love, love, Well,
Speaker 1: Thank you Zach so much, and rain Drops, I will
Speaker 1: see you guys on Tuesday's episode Chat. Then, thank you
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