WEBVTT - RHOBH: The Takedown of Kyle Richards??

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos King, the

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<v Speaker 1>King of Reality TV and one of the most sought

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<v Speaker 1>after executive producers in reality television with over ten years

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<v Speaker 1>a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,

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<v Speaker 1>Osday's episode of Reality with the King.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a very special guest who I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on his podcast a couple of times and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, way, honey, you have to also make an

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<v Speaker 1>appearance online. He has a very very successful podcast called

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<v Speaker 1>No Filter with Zach Peter. So girls, guys, and they

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<v Speaker 1>give it up for the amazing Zach Peter. Hello, Hello, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Are you do you have the censor button ready? Are

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<v Speaker 1>the editors ready to cut me?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? My god?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think they're ready to do other things

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<v Speaker 2>to you, but we'll see. I'm cutting them.

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<v Speaker 1>Was on the listen, nobody's done on the back in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, Carlos, So, I will take whatever I can

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<v Speaker 1>get right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a dry season for you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know it wasn't because I was like banging this

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<v Speaker 1>guy that I go to the gym with for a

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<v Speaker 1>hot second and then it like slowed down. So and

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<v Speaker 1>then I deleted all of my apps, like all the

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<v Speaker 1>dating apps, because I just I'm like, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>be in my my solo season.

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<v Speaker 2>May I ask for gym?

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<v Speaker 3>You go to Zach, I go to Orange.

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<v Speaker 1>Theory in South Park. If anybody wants to get a membership,

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<v Speaker 1>is there all they're getting when they go to that?

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<v Speaker 1>Long listen when I tell you I've made my way

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<v Speaker 1>through Orange Theory in South Park. Uh, but also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you first start going to the gym and

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<v Speaker 1>like your body isn't quite in that place that it

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<v Speaker 1>is when you've been going for like a while. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that, like I made it through the roster

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<v Speaker 1>at like the start of my journey. So now when

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<v Speaker 1>I walk in and I see they haven't progressed, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have you know, we have to clear the shelf

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna we need to restock it with some

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<v Speaker 1>new twenty twenty five meat. Ah five you and some

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five meat. So that is exactly what is needed.

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<v Speaker 1>So listen, you should have came with me. Yesterday I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Kathy Hilton's holiday party sponsored by direct TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it was It was a great party.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, Kathy Hilton always throws a great party,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's always What was the tea that came out

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<v Speaker 1>of this party? Carlos, like, I want to know who

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<v Speaker 1>was getting who did you catch banging in the closet?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you find Kathy Hilton's nudes in in the safe?

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<v Speaker 2>She says she keeps in the bank safe. Riding with

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<v Speaker 2>her and Rick were what were they?

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<v Speaker 1>It was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas? Was no? What was it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Vegas. It was Vegas, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror and the selling mirror and stuff like. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy nudes were not on display at this party, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the housewives were there. I had no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach how mating people listen to my podcast and girl,

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<v Speaker 1>when I say to you, like all of the real

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<v Speaker 1>Housewives of Salt Lake City ladies were like talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mary was fantastic. Angie k was like, do you like me?

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<v Speaker 2>Do not like me? I say, ANGIEK, I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>You call me hurricane Angie last season, I said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>But this season you redeemed yourself. I love Angie k Whitney.

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<v Speaker 1>Rose was a doll. Lisa Barlow performed. I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok that she was. She took over the mic

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<v Speaker 1>and she was doing a cappella. Yeah, she sang a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Carol. And when I say to you rain drops.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I will say about the Real House Watch

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<v Speaker 1>of Salt Lake City.

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<v Speaker 2>They are really who.

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<v Speaker 1>They are on television, like all of them were exactly

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<v Speaker 1>who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Bron I met Bronwyn for was.

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<v Speaker 1>She wearing caution tape?

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<v Speaker 2>Not this time?

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<v Speaker 1>She had on a pink flora ophite. It may have

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<v Speaker 1>been dochakabana off the runway. Possibly she looks stunning. Karen

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<v Speaker 1>Huger was there. Oh, Karen was there? Karen, she's innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen also said to me, Zach, She said, I will

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<v Speaker 1>never go on your podcast. What did you tell her?

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't have to drive to you. She could do

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<v Speaker 1>it virtually, Zach, Why.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you so shady this early? I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do it?

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<v Speaker 1>You are Listen, I said, Karen, you know I'm obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with you. She said, oh, honey, I know that, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said listen. To all of these girls. They love

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me I'm going on Carlos King's podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just sit back and I'm like, he is going

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure to ask all the right questions.

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<v Speaker 2>As like Karen, I made you on. She said, I

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<v Speaker 2>will never go on your podcast, but I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would she never do, Zach?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would she? I was told that maybe she knows

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<v Speaker 1>I will ask all the questions and you ask the

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<v Speaker 1>hard questions. Yeah, it's not going to be a fluff interview.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't do fluff interviews. No, I you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>study from like Diane Sawyer, Barbara Wallpas in Oprah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I have a journalist's background. But I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>so funny that she told me to my face, like, no, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to respect it when they are honest to

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<v Speaker 1>your face, Like, you just have to love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate when you meet them and they're like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. They're so sweet to you, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>know that they secretly hate you. It's better when they're

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<v Speaker 1>just like straight up with you. So Karen respects. She

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<v Speaker 1>learned something in the clan clink, and I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 2>She's never cod on podcast, Zach. Thanks to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Does she even do pot. I don't think she's ever

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<v Speaker 1>done a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>To your point, she has it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the only part she talks to was Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen and Bryce Sanders. Well, she's right up there with

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<v Speaker 1>John Jansen and Brandy Glanville with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, John Jess did my podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He did, Oh, he did with Alexis, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>give you the one on He didn't give you the

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive one on one the take to Rice. Yes, Alexis

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<v Speaker 1>was there with John. They were both there. Looked amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Wendy looked so gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>She she looked beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, it was She's had a glow up every

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<v Speaker 1>time I see her. She just continues to get like

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<v Speaker 1>more and more beautiful. I don't know how she does it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's she looks good. She looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>So, no, it was a great party. Everybody was there

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<v Speaker 1>except Honey.

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<v Speaker 2>None of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Real Housewives of Billy Hills cast members where they are

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<v Speaker 1>not shocking because I expected at least like Kyle and

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<v Speaker 1>Erica Derie. I wonder why interesting, I wonder why Sutton

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. I know I least expected Sutton to be

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<v Speaker 1>there because of just the fact that you know, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has to kiss Kathy's ass.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When Kathy says kiss the ring, Sutton bends over and

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy's like, that's not what I asked for, but thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are all five. That's why he has a podcast

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<v Speaker 2>called No Filter. Now we all know. Please subscribe to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an amazing podcast. But no, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great night. Shout out to my boy Spencer.

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer is like this amazing publicist who reps a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the girls. Oh Spencer, Oh, he doesn't work. We're

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<v Speaker 1>like frienemies, like we love each other, but we're also

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<v Speaker 1>like sassy to each other too.

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<v Speaker 2>Why'd you guys sassy to each other?

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<v Speaker 1>We'd like to bust each other's Yeah, no, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>a good guy. Shout out to sprintser He made it

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<v Speaker 1>all happen for me, and it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>But was even more better is the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>and I get to sit and chat about the most

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<v Speaker 1>recent episode of the Real Housewives of Billy Hills and Zach.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get right into it. This seems to be the

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<v Speaker 1>takedown of Kyle Richards season. I mean it, everyone's always

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<v Speaker 1>had their like turn in the hot seat, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Kyle's been a little overdue because that's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the theme on Beverly Hills. We have

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<v Speaker 1>like one target and we all kind of well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I feel like it's they're trying to take

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<v Speaker 1>down Deret, but it's ending up like backfiring onto Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that about, you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Because listen, I am a huge Kyle Richards fan, like

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<v Speaker 1>humongs and you know, listen, she is arguably my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>housewife that I haven't worked with. And what I've been

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<v Speaker 1>seeing for these past four episodes is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>det is delivering. She is Pizza Hut, Domino's, she is Instacart,

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<v Speaker 1>door Dash, Uber eats the premium. She is the two

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine express fee that you make to be a

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<v Speaker 1>priority order like Derrie is delivering.

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<v Speaker 2>And what is so interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's not looking good for Kyle and

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<v Speaker 1>I and no one around Kyle to me is helping her.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Erica is being duplicitous. I think Erica

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<v Speaker 1>is playing both sides of the fence, my opinion. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Erica tells Deree one thing. I think Erica tells

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle another thing. And I think Erica sits back and

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<v Speaker 1>watched both of these girls go at it. But it

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be like everybody wants to see Kyle be

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<v Speaker 1>taken down.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wonder, for you, is it deserving?

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<v Speaker 1>See I like you, I love Kyle, and Kyle is

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<v Speaker 1>the queen of Beverly Hills. But I will say last

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<v Speaker 1>season like this whole like, you know, one foot in,

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<v Speaker 1>one foot out, We're gonna have Morgan on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're now we're not gonna talk about Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we're gonna not talk about my separation

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<v Speaker 1>from Mauricio until I have to talk about my separation

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<v Speaker 1>from Marico. I just feel like she's been a little

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<v Speaker 1>more guarded and reserved this season and last season that

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the frustration, but you also have to understand

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills is the show about taking down the queen.

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<v Speaker 1>So whoever's wearing the crown at the moment, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to tear you down at any chance that they get.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can see Sutton and Garcel mostly Ston just

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<v Speaker 1>like salivating, waiting to take down Kyle Richards and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to assert herself as the new leader of the group.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just I think, you know, even the fight

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<v Speaker 1>with Deret, Like, I just feel like I don't fully

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<v Speaker 1>understand Kyle's like reason behind like why she has an

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<v Speaker 1>issue with Deret that I get why she's in the

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<v Speaker 1>hot seat this season. Well, okay, let's have of a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation the flashbacks that I'm seeing of the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle did not speak to d Read for six months.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand I speaking to somebody for six hours. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're mad, I will even give you six days. But

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode, they flashed back to a scene that

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<v Speaker 1>happened a couple of years ago where Kyle was doing

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<v Speaker 1>her fashion show and Durie made a chicken comment, which

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<v Speaker 1>rain drops every housewife or reality star. They used the

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<v Speaker 1>confessionals to just be tongue in cheek, to be shady,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's part for the course.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle does it, they all do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that de Reed made a comment saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saving Kyle's fashion show, Kyle has no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing. Look, it's not the nicest thing to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I will also be annoyed by it. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's worth not speaking to someone for six months. And

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<v Speaker 1>when Deree is giving her rational. It honestly makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense to me why Dereet is fed up

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<v Speaker 1>with Kyle, And you are right, The Real Housewives of

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Hills is sort of like the takedown of the Queen.

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<v Speaker 1>Every season, Lisa, Vanda Pump went through it, Lisa Rena

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<v Speaker 1>went through it, you know Yolanda, you know Foster went

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<v Speaker 1>through it. So I never thought about that, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this is the season where.

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle's Erica went through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember with the legal stuff, they were all just like

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<v Speaker 1>ripping her apart or so I was like, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor, let me kick you in the teeth while

0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you're down, Like they come for you when it's your turn,

0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.040
<v Speaker 1>they come for you hard. I just like you said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many of these little things that Kyle's like

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<v Speaker 1>dredging up from the past that I'm like, why wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>it an issue then? Like why are we rehashing this

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<v Speaker 1>five years later?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kyle is just I think Kyle's more upset

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<v Speaker 1>about the way Durite was talking about the Morgan stuff

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<v Speaker 1>so freely in interviews and on Watch What Happens Live,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the fact that Durit maybe wasn't as loyal

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<v Speaker 1>with protecting their relationship or whatever Kyle has going on

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<v Speaker 1>with Morgan. You know, I think the fact that Dury

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<v Speaker 1>was also kind of questioning it with the other women

0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.560
<v Speaker 1>last season, I think that's kind of what really bothered

0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Kyle more than anything. And now she's just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>grasp at straws because she knows that she can't bring

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<v Speaker 1>up Morgan, and Morgan can't be a talking point because

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<v Speaker 1>now we're not allowed to say Morgan's name.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about the fact that Morgan was

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<v Speaker 1>introduced to us courtesy of Kyle through the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>now if you mentioned her, it does appear that Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>has a problem with it. Total bullshit. Like listen, Morgan

0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.600
<v Speaker 1>signed up for the show last season. She came on,

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<v Speaker 1>she did the tattoos, she was at so many different events,

0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:43.280
<v Speaker 1>she filmed the entire season. She continues to be We

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<v Speaker 1>just saw her in the Daily Mail out with Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>and Lisa Rinna. So like Morgan's Now, you know, Morgan's

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<v Speaker 1>not a private citizen. She's a work at a bank, right,

0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.680
<v Speaker 1>She's a country music star. She writes all these love

0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.400
<v Speaker 1>songs that everybody's been picking apart about her secret lover

0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, her lover from Beverly Hills and

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<v Speaker 1>they're at the Beverly Hiltson and the parazzi or following us,

0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.079
<v Speaker 1>like she's Melissa Gorgo on display but just in country

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<v Speaker 1>version and so and now all of a sudden, she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>now I don't want to be part of this life.

0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.760
<v Speaker 1>It's just like, you know, it's very Chapel Roone. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be a pop star, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you know, what comes with being a pop star.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you have to pick a lane. You picked

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<v Speaker 1>your lane, and like this is what it is. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't not say Morgan's name anymore. You know, you had

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<v Speaker 1>me on display. So I've never listened to Morgan's music.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I only heard of Morgan when I learned

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<v Speaker 1>that she was allegedly seeing Kyle Richards. I don't know

0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.440
<v Speaker 1>her catalog of music. I don't know if she won

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<v Speaker 1>a country music award. I don't know if bib Wo

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<v Speaker 1>magazine named her one of the top you know, pop

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<v Speaker 1>stars of the twenty first century. I don't know anything

0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:49.440
<v Speaker 1>about Morgan. I know Morgan Wallin Whalen. Whatever you're not

0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:53.680
<v Speaker 1>dying to see this love story, sorry documentary that Kyle

0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Richards is producing about her life.

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<v Speaker 2>Come again, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>About the document Kyle's been filming this duck documentary for

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<v Speaker 1>like the past year, following Morgan Wade's life and her country.

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<v Speaker 1>She's on tour and she, you know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>she like had some sort of health scare and like

0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Kyle's like been following her around with cameras like capturing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the most anticipated film of the year. Carlos.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a second, I thought it was Wicked with Cynthia

0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and Ariana Grande. Wait a second, are you saying to

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<v Speaker 1>me that the Oscar Coutinder is the Morganwaite documentary produced

0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:31.800
<v Speaker 1>by Kyle Richard's Productions, Inc. Yep, right after American Woman,

0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.320
<v Speaker 1>it's the Morgan Wade documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're here for I can't wait on my seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you bullshitting me?

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<v Speaker 1>No? It's literally like this is should They announced this

0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and everybody was like nobody asked for this documentary, and

0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.760
<v Speaker 1>she's like her life is just so fascinating, where like, Kyle,

0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you're in love, Like the only reason you're producing a

0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.360
<v Speaker 1>documentary about this person is because you're clearly in love

0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.280
<v Speaker 1>with them, because nobody is asking for this. Nobody knew

0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.000
<v Speaker 1>who Morgan Wade was before you know, you were in

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<v Speaker 1>the music video and she came on Beverly Hills gonna

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<v Speaker 1>mike you folling love with me and now I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be on your TUV anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that an actual lyric?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was the lyric, and then I added the

0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:17.960
<v Speaker 1>TV part because now it's like I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>you in love with me, and now I don't want

0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you to be in love with me because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be on camera anymore.

0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:24.800
<v Speaker 3>But you only picked apart her lyrics.

0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.440
<v Speaker 1>She has so many songs and it's like I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>love with and we're in a secret love affair and

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<v Speaker 1>we're at the Beverly Hilton hotwn the pop rots here

0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.440
<v Speaker 1>catchin us and we'll never be together. Like people are

0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.480
<v Speaker 1>like these lyrics sound a little like they're about Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>The only way I knowledge is Dwayne Wade. I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I care. And this is no

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<v Speaker 1>shade to Morgathy. Morgan is a great woman. She has tattoos,

0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:53.920
<v Speaker 1>she looks great. Whatever what this is, what's going to

0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.800
<v Speaker 1>be the issue because I'm listening. I'm very honest. I

0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.440
<v Speaker 1>love Kyle, I really do. The issue was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be this and this is the mistake that a lot

0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of housewives make. Okay m hm. It's when you.

0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.600
<v Speaker 2>When you hold people accountable.

0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Throughout the seasons of the show, we saw Kyle try

0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:25.280
<v Speaker 1>to hold Denise Richards accountable for allegedly having an affair

0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:26.840
<v Speaker 1>with Brandy Gandil.

0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Yep. We saw scissor gap.

0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.280
<v Speaker 1>We saw Kyle try to hold someting accountable when she

0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.400
<v Speaker 1>was going through with Dina Jenkins. We saw Kyle try

0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to hold Rika Jane accountable when the whole thing about

0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:48.360
<v Speaker 1>returning the earrings. So when it's your turn and you

0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:55.159
<v Speaker 1>tell the cast you this off limit, Yeah, that's not great,

0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:59.879
<v Speaker 1>only because people have receipts of you doing that to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else, So why are you exempt from it happening

0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to you? And I just don't think it's that big

0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of a deal to data woman if that's what she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing allegedly. I just so I pulled up the lyrics

0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.000
<v Speaker 1>for you. So it's one of Morgan Wade's songs that

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<v Speaker 1>they thought was about Kyle Richards. It's called the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven Club, where she refers to a Beverly Hills hottie

0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that she's in love with, and she says, I'm laying

0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.720
<v Speaker 1>in bed at the chateau with someone on I saw

0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.239
<v Speaker 1>on TV, but I barely even know small talk for

0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.960
<v Speaker 1>a second, then I gotta leave, walk out, separate. You're famous,

0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.959
<v Speaker 1>you can't be seen with me. It sounds like it's

0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:36.520
<v Speaker 1>about Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think they're playing with the audience?

0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Like? What, Okay, listen, you and I are both openly

0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:48.920
<v Speaker 1>gay men, right, and one thing about our community is

0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.119
<v Speaker 1>a large percentage of us do not believe in outing

0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:57.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody right, That that's somebody's personal, you know, decision to

0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.600
<v Speaker 1>make and no one should ever be out in and

0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I stand for that. How does it make you feel though,

0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And maybe you don't feel anyway, but as an oply

0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.399
<v Speaker 1>gay man, do you feel any kind of way about

0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.960
<v Speaker 1>this being a storyline on this show? Do you think

0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.480
<v Speaker 1>it's unfair to bring this up and not really be

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.880
<v Speaker 1>as transparent with it as one would hope.

0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:23.119
<v Speaker 2>When you were on a reality show.

0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like at the beginning of it, I was like, yeah,

0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you're right, like we should were. Let's not out let

0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:29.960
<v Speaker 1>her go on her journey, and I've always thought she's

0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.720
<v Speaker 1>been in less of a sexuality journey and more of

0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.920
<v Speaker 1>just like an identity crisis. Right, she's not a wife anymore.

0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.600
<v Speaker 1>The kids are grown, so she's not that active mom

0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.480
<v Speaker 1>running around with kids anymore. Like her life has changing.

0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.360
<v Speaker 1>She's going through this metamorphosis. However, when they started doing

0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the music video and then when Morgan's lyrics started coming

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.080
<v Speaker 1>into question and we saw them tattooing each other on

0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.679
<v Speaker 1>the show and you know, all of this stuff, then

0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, now it kind of feels like you

0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.320
<v Speaker 1>guys are playing with the audience and you're kind of

0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 1>dancing on this line without really addressing it head on.

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.840
<v Speaker 1>And to me, you know, I did feel kind of

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like the music video to me was a really big

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 1>one because they're literally in the tub together and they

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.199
<v Speaker 1>have the strawberries and they're like just about to make out,

0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.720
<v Speaker 1>and so it is a little gay baby, and it's like,

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 1>just be honest about like what you are you questioning?

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Like what it like Normally I wouldn't ask these questions,

0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.840
<v Speaker 1>but you keep kind of teasing the audience with all

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 1>these little things that it does then bring this into question. Because,

0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:28.440
<v Speaker 1>like you said, you've lived your life on the show

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.520
<v Speaker 1>for thirteen fourteen years now, and we've seen everything, you know,

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.719
<v Speaker 1>we've seen you live your life out fully completely that like,

0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, why now are you starting to not be

0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 1>fully transparent with what's going on with your life?

0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.199
<v Speaker 1>And I think that is going to really be a

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.600
<v Speaker 1>big issue. And when it comes to what's been going

0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.359
<v Speaker 1>on lately, I want to shoot gears a bit and

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:53.119
<v Speaker 1>we'll get back into the show. Teddy Mellicamp revealed on

0:20:53.200 --> 0:21:00.479
<v Speaker 1>her podcast that she is living with Kyle. I mean,

0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 1>better than the horse trainer, right, Listen. I fully support

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.920
<v Speaker 1>her journey. Whatever she wants to do with her life,

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I support her. But I mean it's nice that she

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's weird that she moved out

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>of the house though, But listen, I love Teddy and

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.880
<v Speaker 1>she wants to live with Kyle. They could be roomies.

0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Kyle doesn't have Mauricio and so, you know,

0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Bunker sisters, not Bunker sister like the point of sisters.

0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:34.159
<v Speaker 1>I love Teddy too. It's just the thing that a

0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.959
<v Speaker 1>lot of people obviously are intimating, is that, listen, Teddy

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.399
<v Speaker 1>is the daughter of John mellencount, which means there's no

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.880
<v Speaker 1>shortage of money. So the idea of like moving in

0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.920
<v Speaker 1>with somebody instead of getting your own place, a lot

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.760
<v Speaker 1>of people are questioning what that looks like and why

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:54.120
<v Speaker 1>that isn't even happening. It's just, you know, a lot

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:58.439
<v Speaker 1>of people do think that's very weird. And Teddy was

0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 1>brought up in this episode when it came to Dereete

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.920
<v Speaker 1>not being close to her but being friends with her,

0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and deree who remembers everything she said because everybody else

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:14.520
<v Speaker 1>got them wrong. When they're like, no, you say you

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:16.320
<v Speaker 1>weren't friends with her, she said no, actually said we

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 1>are friends, We're not close.

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.119
<v Speaker 2>What did you make of that whole dialogue?

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 1>It was strange that like that was part of one

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that that was even part of the dialogue, and two

0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that we even decided to put that into the like

0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the editors decided to focus on that because that was like,

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:32.679
<v Speaker 1>of all the things that I'm sure they were fighting

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 1>about that night, Like that wasn't a five minute argument

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:37.440
<v Speaker 1>that we saw on the show, Like there were other

0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:39.200
<v Speaker 1>things that were brought up that why we chose to

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 1>lean into that was an interesting choice, But I get

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Dured's point. Like, I mean, I'm sure you're the same way.

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Especially in LA you have a million friends and they're

0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 1>still your friends, but you're not particularly close to them,

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. I think Kyle and Teddy do have a

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.120
<v Speaker 1>closer relationship. To your point about you know, her dad

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.879
<v Speaker 1>having endless resources for her, there's a difference I think

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.200
<v Speaker 1>when you're going through a separation, where I mean, it's

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.240
<v Speaker 1>one thing to have that financial support, but I think

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it's another thing to have an emotional support. And I

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.160
<v Speaker 1>think Kyle and Teddy are probably leaning on each other

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.640
<v Speaker 1>as they're each going through their separations, and so there's

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of like an emotional bond that I think they

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>probably have right now going through that. And that's probably

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>why she made the choice to move in with Kyle

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 1>rather than to move into like a hotel alone or

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.399
<v Speaker 1>to rent another place on her own. Probably just doesn't

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:26.280
<v Speaker 1>want to be alone right now. But the dured stuff,

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand why everybody was like, you're saying that

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Teddy's not your friend. I was like, she's saying that

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 1>she's her friend, but they're like, durit's not calling up

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Teddy and like crying to her on the phone about

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<v Speaker 1>you know PK living at the Beverly Hilton.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we think p K and Deiy will divorce?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't you say that it's a sham divorce.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Why are you asking me? I should

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<v Speaker 3>be asking you that question.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, you came with receipts, prove timeline everything. It's

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a fake separation, puppy gate all over again. Just to clarify,

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, allegedly, this is what I heard, and as

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<v Speaker 1>Zach a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little team for you.

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I got a constant all night at Kathy Hilton's party

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<v Speaker 1>about my comment.

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<v Speaker 3>As you should you spilled the team.

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>You didn't drop the receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots everything.

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 3>I was waiting.

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what does he know? Was he you know?

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Did he overhear something at a party?

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I overheard many things a party, but I don't repeat

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<v Speaker 2>them often. No. The thing is, it's just thinks you hear.

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills is a small town.

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<v Speaker 3>My industry is a small chown.

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<v Speaker 2>I never was said. It was a fact.

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, is what I heard, and then I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it. Listen, I heard that PK is

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<v Speaker 1>not PK is not happy with me. Is he happy

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<v Speaker 1>in general?

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing, because my thing is this. My

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 2>thing is this child.

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<v Speaker 1>We are just getting started. This is reality with the King,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 1>I heard that PK is PK.

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Is not happy with me?

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Is he happy in general?

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing, because my thing is this. My

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 2>thing is this.

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>I said in my podcast last week, and it was

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 1>evident in this episode too that del Reet obviously is

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>on an island, right and the only person who's trying

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to throw her a bone is Boss Bows. Like I

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>think Bose is really trying to like befriend her, and

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to me, it's working. I think, you know, the man

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>who she leaned on for so many years is not

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, a shoulder to cry on anymore. So she's

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>on this island trying to like reason with Kylin and

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 1>obviously protect her job. But then you have people like

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, Garcel who's challenging her, and a lot of

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>people just aren't liking that at all. You know, a

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of people think Garcel's being too hard on Derey,

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people think Sutton is being too hard

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 1>on Deriy. Do you is that what you're seeing as

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you're watching this season two. Well, I think Garcela and

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Sutton every season go into trying to find their next target.

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they've consistently done this, and the fans

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>have given them a pass for the past couple of

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 1>seasons because they've been, you know, sort of the fan favorites,

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>because they went against Lisarna and they went against Erica

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 1>when it wasn't popular to be on Erica or Rinna's side.

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>So I think, you know, the fans very much just

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>gravitated towards whoever was opposite of the person that they

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>hated the most on the show. And so I think

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Garcel and Sutton have gotten a past for that, and

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I think Garcel and Sutton are trying that again this season,

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:55.919
<v Speaker 1>and the fans are kind of over it, especially with

0:26:56.000 --> 0:27:00.719
<v Speaker 1>how Garcel has persistently gone at Deriy without real in

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, real kind of cause like I get it

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't like her, but then it's like just be

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>like I don't, but like it's I don't know, I

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like deurit's tried with Garcel, and Garsel just doesn't

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>give her the time of day. And so I do

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>see that pattern happening again this season. And I think,

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, that tactic that Garcela and have had of

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>like picking you know who they think is going to

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>be the most hated on the cast and piling onto them.

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I just think that that tactic has expired because I

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>think everybody went in thinking, oh, yeah, we're gonna get

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 1>a you know, Dorito's crunch wrap supreme and we're just

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna eat it all day, all season long. And Dere

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like, nah, I'm a bag of flaming hot Dorito's

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and you better watch yourself. And so she's coming in hot,

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 1>she's standing her ground, she's smoking her cigarettes, and the

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>fans are loving it because Derey has given us ruthless

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 1>and toothless and they're happy with it. And so, you know, Derey,

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>unfortunate or not unfortunately, but I think unexpectedly is becoming

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the fan favorite because she's been a lot more ruthless

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>this season and it doesn't feel like she's being that

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>curated as we've seen her in past season. And this

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>is what I've been trying to say to the girls.

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 1>You cannot play to the audience.

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, you just.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>You if you are, if you live for the applause

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.439
<v Speaker 1>or died by the booze. And like I said before,

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've said things about Garcela and friendship that

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was genuine, and so social media

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 1>read me for philth to the point where I've said

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 1>this on my podcast before, Garcell and son commenting on

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 1>it and I had to like explain to them like

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I was just saying this, but your fans took it to.

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Another direction in a very dark place.

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>And then garceill to make a comment I want to

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>say two years ago that and I love garcel but

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>when she made this comment, I was like, if I

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>can talk to her, like please do not get caught

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>him in social media. Garcia made a comment one saying

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that you know, I'm the fan favorite, and.

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I saw that, I Zach, I'm like.

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Not only did it not only did like I mean

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you and I am sure had that reaction, but I

0:28:58.160 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>think it was on a talk show, right, It's on

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>something talk and the audience was like, like they didn't

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>even react to her that.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I think the way she was expecting them to.

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I think she was expecting an applause, and I remember

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the audience was kind of like Oh, that's an interesting

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>because when you assert yourself very much the way Sutton's

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to assert herself as like the head of the

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>group this season, it's like, you can't do you can't

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>assert yourself as that. You have to just kind of naturally,

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, let that position, like Kyle just kind of

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>naturally after vander Pump left, let the crown eventually kind

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>of fall into her because she was the glue that

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>held the show together. She was the og that the

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>fans recognized that she did kind of become the anchor

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>of the show. And I think she'll remain the anchor

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>of the show as long as she stays on it.

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think Sutton and Garcel have pandered

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, played the audience a little too much,

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think now the audience is just becoming a

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>bit more savvy because they've seen the same tricks and

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>they're just not as interested because I think, like we

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>discussed on my show, the audience is fickle and they

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>may love you this season, but they may not love

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you next season. And you know, you just have to

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>be yoursel self organically and they'll love you when you're

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>at least who you are, you know, and they'll come around.

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>If they hate you one season, they'll probably love you

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>again the next season, and it'll just continue to bounce

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>back and forth. But you can't be afraid of having

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a bad season.

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>You cannot. You cannot, you cannot. And listen.

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Based on these episodes, it does appear that this and

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>again I'm basing this only off of what's been happening online,

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>this seems to be a season where Guardsell and Son

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>are not the fan favorites. No, not at all, not

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>from what I like. Normally, I feel like people are like,

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, eating them out, like Denise and Brandy. But

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>in this time, the fans are like that, Zach oh Man,

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I told you. The editor is on standby.

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Listen. I have never I think, in the history of

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 2>my podcast this speechless. Oh shit, Zach. I'm gonna get

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 2>fucking eviscerated from this. But listen, listen, you.

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Will, I will, And that's okay.

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Listen. I, I you know, have wallpaper with all the

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>mean things people say about me on the internet. It

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>keeps the bills paid.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>I love it for you, probably the more honest.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you feel this way, but I

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>feel like the more like just unfiltered and honest that

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you are. Like eventually a lot of that, like loud

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>noise on the internet. Either, I've just become so immune

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>to it that I kind of just tune it out.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like it's kind of it kind of

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>like goes away at some point because they're so like

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>they can't be outraged with you every you know, every day,

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>that eventually like it's just not as shocking to them,

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>and then they learn how to have fun with it.

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, Listen, at the end of the day, this

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 2>is what I'll say.

0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>People love authenticity, right, Zach. You're I'm playing up to

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the audience. You're not playing up a character. This is

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>really who you are, and I think people accept Like, look,

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I may not agree

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.959
<v Speaker 1>with everything he says, but that's who he is.

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 2>He's not going to change for us. I'm not mad

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 2>at it.

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>It is what it is, and that's what these realities

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>starts need to get. Because even as I was watching

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>this episode bellby Hills, I felt like, this is my opinion,

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I felt like producers or somebody told something a Garsell

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>to challenge Derey and because it did not seem genuine

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to me, Like when they were on the bus and

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Drey pretty much, you know, settled well what was happening

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>within her and Kyle, and then all of a sudden,

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>something brings up something that was so random that to me,

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>only production could I've seen.

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk about the fact that Eric Cop was

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 2>whispering to Kyle. It was like Derey was screaming so

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 2>loud that I don't think any of the cast members

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 2>saw that. But I digress.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>So when you when you're watching it and you see

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Sun trying so hard, I think that's the I think

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that a lot of the audience isn't,

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, gravitating towards anymore. It just seems like you're

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>picking on Derie, and I think that's what it is.

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're picking on Derey, and Derey is

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>doing a fantastic job as standing up for herself.

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like what Sun was doing, and I love

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the fact that Durie got her right together, yell of

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 2>her face, and so it's like, oh, y'all let me

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>dress like bish please.

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:40.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean the other thing with Sutton in that

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>moment on the bus too, is like, Sutton was like, well,

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just bringing this up because I don't want to

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>be in a group where, you know, we talk about

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>people behind each other's backs and we won't say it

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to their face. Erica and I was just like, excuse me,

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>were you not the one that had everybody over at

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>your house when the Girardi stuff came out behind Erica's

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>back to have a meeting about how you guys were

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>all going to approach Erica moving forward. I'm like, you

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>guys are this is Beverly Hills. You're supposed to talk

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>about each other's backs. It's like embedded in the fabric

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 1>of la is like friend grop. You talked shit about

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>each other. But Erica wasn't even talking crap about Derey.

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>She just made like an under her breath comment to

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>who was she talking to, to Bo's or whoever she

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>was next to, or to Kyle that it was just

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>weird that Sen's like, well, I'm only bringing this up

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>because I just don't want to be in a friend

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.240
<v Speaker 1>group where we talk about each other behind each other's backs.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 1>When Sutton is like the most shady behind people's backs

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>and her confessionals, oh the most and listen. We love that,

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, we love that for son, but listen and

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>we love it.

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>That's why I think the moment didn't land is because

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the audience is like, no, I don't like what like

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 1>you're bring Like no, A producer told you, Erica is

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>not clocked in this season. So call Erica out and

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>try to stir some stuff between Dery and Erica and

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.959
<v Speaker 1>see if you can, cause you know, some friction there

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 1>and when and she delivered her lines and Drea it's

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>like not today and Teddy me like Teddy got so

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>much like Teddy was talked about more in that one

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>episode than Garcell's given us all season. Show me the

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>footage showed me the most compelling scene that you got

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>from Garsel this season, Carlos, we're four episodes.

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 2>In a Garcel's defense, we've got more out of bows.

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>She gave us champagne and wine glasses, and Dared was

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>okay with the champagne. Dreet's like I am on an island.

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to complain about getting champagne in a

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>wine glass. I'm gonna take it because I need all

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the allies I can get right now. I listen, that's

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the best part about that, because it was that's really

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the case. She's like, look, normally i'm'll have an issue

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 1>with this, but I need more prison enemies.

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 2>At this point. I will say this.

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I will say this, and I love to get your

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on it, and I'm gonna go on record saying

0:35:55.320 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 1>this Bow's is the best addition to this case that

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I've seen in like four or five seasons. I I

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I am so obsessed with this woman.

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 2>She seems to go ahead like it's natural.

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm obsessed, natural and like such a voice

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>of reason, like a voice of the audience. Right, So

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>like when Kyle and deiy are fighting at the table

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>about an Instagram story and Bo's in her confessionals and

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>in the after show, she's kind of just like, what

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>are they even fighting about? Like She's like, I don't

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>even understand what their issue is. It seems so silly

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and so base and so dumb. Like she's just like,

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I like her and Jennifer Tilley are just like we

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>just want to like eat her.

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Dinner, Like we don't understand what this whole fight is about.

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like the audience feels that way too,

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>And so she I think is just so authentic in herself,

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's refreshing because it's not like somebody coming in

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 1>and trying to have a moment. Like Bose doesn't need

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 1>to insert herself into the drama. She just very organically

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.439
<v Speaker 1>commands presence at the table when she walks into a room.

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.439
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's very refreshing because, like you said,

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 1>we're only four episodes deep, and she I think has

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>already won over the audience.

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I I just, I just I just think she's great.

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I think she's great.

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I like even the story about her dating the scammer.

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you what it is.

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm and oh god, this is gonna be so messy,

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>but I have to be honest. All of those girls

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.439
<v Speaker 1>need to take a page out of Bo's book.

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna tell you why. She's not trying to

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 2>have a moment. She's trying to.

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Tell you more about her life and and that's what

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 1>she's giving to us.

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 2>It's the small details. And listen.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I fell in love of Garsel and Sudden their first

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of seasons instantly because I felt like they were

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.399
<v Speaker 1>dropping the nuggets about their personal lives that I was like, oh,

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting and and it was natural, and I think

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>what has happened to them?

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>That happens a lot.

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Of reality stars who who think they're the fan favorites.

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:05.479
<v Speaker 1>They start to just clock in and asks the tough

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>questions and start an argument and then go home and

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 1>say I did my job for the day, instead of

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>living in the moment. What's what's what's happening this season

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>to me is this Erica Jane does not want to

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>be there.

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:19.959
<v Speaker 2>She's not clocked in at all.

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>She's she's not she misses Renna right, she's and I

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>love Erica.

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 2>Erica's great.

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I think Erica, when I say don't want to be there,

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean being on the show. I think I

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.720
<v Speaker 1>just don't think she's present and doubt in this season.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I think Kyle really, I think and Kyle Hart of hearts,

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>she probably wishes she took a season off to really

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to really understand what's happening with her feelings with Morgan allegedly.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 2>I think she wants to figure that out.

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 1>She's going through a separation with Mauricio, and she has

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>every right to me to ask for a season off.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest with you. I can't take another

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Derey versus Kyle. It was cute the first two episodes.

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I was here for it. I am fucking over it is.

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Give me Melissa Gorga, Teresa JULYI sprinkle cookies. Yes, well,

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna order her sprinkle cookies? I will order

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Teresa's New York Times bestselling cookbooks.

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 3>With Kylon Dree.

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I know in the the preview for next week's episode,

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.360
<v Speaker 1>we see that there's like a heart to heart that

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the two of them have where they're like crying. I mean, like,

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>we have too much going on in our lives that

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>we don't need to be fighting about this. So I'm

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 1>hoping we do get to see some sort of resolution

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>because that's kind of what the shows are. And I

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like the show Housewives in general thrives when you

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>have these fights and we are through it in four

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>or five episodes, and then we move on to the

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.439
<v Speaker 1>next part of the season, right, you know, and there's

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 1>constantly there's conflict, there's a resolution, and then you know,

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the potato, the hot Potato moves to another housewife to

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of carry the next two or three episodes with

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>her storyline, right, and what's going on in her life,

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.759
<v Speaker 1>rather than it being this same fight all season long,

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>like Puppy Gate or something where it just it's so

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>dragged out and the audience gets fatigued by it. And

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>at least we know that by the end of this

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Kyle and Dury seem to be in a better place

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:19.240
<v Speaker 1>because we've seen them hanging out a lot together since

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the season has wrapped, so at least there is some

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of resolution.

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I think from what it looks like, I think Sutton

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 1>and Deured are probably going to have the next you know,

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>beef that's gonna come, because I hear Derey kind of

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>really comes at it with everyone all season long. So wait,

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>so are you alleging that after Kyle in Deury makeup

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully is by the next episode, that Derrey is

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 1>coming for Sutton, maybe Garsel and maybe some of the

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 1>other girls. Yes, And I think most of it's going

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to come with Sutton and Dery because listen, one thing

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>about and this is what I do like about Sign

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>is she does have these moments where she very organically

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>will say something a little aloof and it's the wrong

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>thing to say, but it like just kind of lights

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a spark and it runs with a wildfire and it

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>carries the season. You know, she does have those moments

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>where she can be really good when she's just not

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>in her head. That's when she thrives when she's just

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>organically herself. So I think that there's gonna be more

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of that dree versus sut In drama that's gonna come

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna see, you know, Eric's gonna drop her

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>new single. I do agree with you. I think Erica

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>went through two really tough seasons and after that she's

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of just like, I'm gonna let the rest of

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you kind of carry the show and I'm just gonna

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>be here and I'm gonna, you know, do my little

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>thing here and there, and when my moments to come

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>in and shine are gonna come, I'll step in. But

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 1>outside of that, like she really didn't even give you know,

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Sutton much on the bus. You know, she kind of

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>just let Durite step in and take that fight and listen,

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll give a housewife one season, Right, you had two

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 1>rough seasons back to back.

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I get.

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you one season to kind of, you know,

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>sit on the bench, be cool. And then the following season.

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I need you to bring it again, because like you

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.879
<v Speaker 1>can't just keep coasting season after season. And they do

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>love Erica, but like this, you know, I need her

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to give a little more here, even if it's like.

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Talk about your dating life or something.

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I miss Erica. Yeah, listen, we fun in love Erica

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 2>because again, and this is and the Housewives.

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>If you're listening, and apparently you are, it's it's the

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 1>little things. I promise you Housewives, it's the little things.

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>It's it's the reason why we love Mary Cosby. It's

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the little thing she does. You're like, that is so interesting.

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Is the reason why Brahm is great. It's the reason

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>why I am a Lisa Bralostan. The fact that she

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>got pissed off of seventeen c cittying, like is shit

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like that, And I'm like, it's so small and so

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>like minute that I'm obsessed with it because that's real

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>conversations and what's happening in Beverly Hills this season so far,

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I just don't feel like no one's having real moments

0:42:58.440 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and just trying to get to know each other in

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:02.799
<v Speaker 1>real place. Besides Bows, I think she's the only one,

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 1>like I'll tell you guys a little bit about myself.

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on with Sutton, and I

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 1>want to know what's going on with her. I want

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to know what Garcelle is going through outside of the

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Lifetime movies.

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean? Like? Who are you dating?

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Is it hard today?

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 2>What's going on with you?

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Know?

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on Will Smith slapping Chris Rock?

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Give me something? Do you know what I mean? Give something?

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I miss Erica Jane so much.

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:34.359
<v Speaker 1>My favorite top five seasons of Beverly Hills of all

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>time will always include the two seasons where Eric could

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 1>check these broads and she was on fucking fire. I

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>loved it is when she had the first chair at

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the reunion. She earned it, And granted, I'm happy she

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>hasn't have to deal with the legalities of Tom's case.

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>But I want Erica to show up and call bitches out.

0:43:58.040 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I want her to be like, no, bitch.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, like, fuck you something? Why are you?

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Why you? Why are you worried about what I'm talking about?

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? I want to say, dere

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>do me a favor, stop throwing me under the bus

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 2>and stop me including me even stupid ass ship with Kyle,

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Like that's the raic I want to show up.

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean listen, that was on the bus was

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a perfect opportunity for her to call out. And she's

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like something, you're gonna be bothered by me making an

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 1>offhanded comment under my breath and you're saying that like what,

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I talked shit behind Durreid's back, Like no, you're the

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>queen of talking shit behind people's backs, Like that's her

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>operating but like you know, and then listen, there's nobody

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that can make something rattle in her boots more than

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Derit or Erica. And that would have been a perfect

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 1>transferred for Erica to talk in. Agreed, agreed, agreed, So listen,

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I'm. I'm happy to hear we're gonna move

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.320
<v Speaker 1>on from Kyle versus Deree.

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I was into it. I'm slowly getting over it.

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's sort of like this hamster wheel of

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 1>petty that isn't as gritty or interesting as a Kyle

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and Lisa Vanda pump break up apprenticeship like that have

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>more legs, that have more teeth you had? Can you

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>know Lisa's husband inserted himself in it, so it had

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 1>different degrees of like interest. This one I'm not interested

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>in anymore. Move past this bullshit. I want to know

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>more about bohs. I want to know more about her,

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 1>what she has going on, make her happen. And if

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 1>I can get Sutton and Dery to like have a

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>versus moment, then you got me back. But as of now,

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:42.439
<v Speaker 1>this is the last episode of it. There's the big

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:47.280
<v Speaker 1>fight that's coming up at Erica's like a single launch party,

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 1>where like DEII it's yelling at Kyle and Sutton and

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like there's that whole like screaming match that we have

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. So I think that's probably going to kick

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<v Speaker 1>off the whole Sutton and Dereek drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I hope, so, I hope, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach, Yeah, we need something more than that, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Need something more. I'm over it. It was cute, it

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<v Speaker 2>was cute, I was into it was everything. I'm over it.

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<v Speaker 1>Move on because because to me, it's not is it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have enough meat to the bones.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's honey, give me a Gar's cell, Paul of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden and bitch, I'm back in it.

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<v Speaker 3>That would have.

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<v Speaker 1>Me compelled because you know that they have just been

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<v Speaker 1>like a game of Survivor, allies to the end, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I want them to really, you know, not turn

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<v Speaker 1>on each other, but turn on each other, like I want,

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<v Speaker 1>you know something, because that would at least, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>give some real stakes. Yes, and it'll be it'll be unexpected.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they know so much about each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>You do not want to be on Sutton's bad side. No,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't predict what she's gonna say. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>predict what she's gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, if it's the right time of day and she

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<v Speaker 1>has enough vodka in her system, she's going to go

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Teddy that she keeps it in her purse allegedly.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegedly, Oh, Zach, I could talk to you all night long,

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<v Speaker 2>my love, my love, my love.

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<v Speaker 1>Please let the world know, because after this, your phone's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be reaging with people.

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<v Speaker 2>I be love you or hating you, or you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to hear it from my housewives.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love it all for you, baby, but probably

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<v Speaker 1>all of the above.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the rain drops know where they can find you.

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<v Speaker 1>And Yeah, I always keep the tea high and I

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<v Speaker 1>always keep the receipts on standby. Love love, love, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Zach so much, and rain Drops, I will

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