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Download 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: the app and you can watch all three hours for free. 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: We couldn't charge you for this content. I'm not sure 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: there's any coach in the NFL that needs a win 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: more than Urban Meyer does this weekend. The Jags coach 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: hasn't exactly been getting the right kind of headlines. In 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: his first NFL Stint got nailed for violating practice rules. 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: He brought in Tim Tebow for a tryout that was 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: a failed experiment, brought in a strength and conditioning coach 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: with a checkered past. There's a report out that maybe 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: he was rubbing people the wrong way inside the organization 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: that his team got blown out by the Texans, and 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: no wonder Urban's name came up when USC fired its 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: head coach Clay Helton. Urban said, no chance that he 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: would be interested. There's no reason not to believe him. 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: But the fact that everyone assumed he'd be interested says 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: a lot. Because people don't have a lot of faith 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: that urban Meyer will be able to replicate his college 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: success in the pros and mainly because urban Meyer doesn't 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: appear to have a lot of patients. He better find 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: it because the Jags don't seem to be close to 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: becoming a winning team anytime soon. And that is the 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: hardest part I talked about the transition. It's one thing 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: to go from being a successful college coach to then 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: going and being a successful pro coach, because the chances 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: are you're getting the job because they're desperate to find 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: somebody and they're willing to overpay. I mean the Dolphins. 37 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: Nick Saban had success at LSU, Steve Spurrier had success 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: at Florida. Washington rolled out the red carpet the Jags. 39 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: Let's see, let's make a run at urban Meyer. We're 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to give him a lot of money the 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Raiders to get John Gruden out of the broadcast booth. 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: But you need a couple of successful drafts, and right 43 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: now you've got Trevor Lawrence and we're going to see 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: if they're able to build upon that right now. But 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: also you're not You don't lose. You don't lose this 46 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: time of the year. Trevor Lawrence doesn't lose this time 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: of the year. Urban may lose late, maybe loses in December, 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: but he's not losing that many games. I don't care 49 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: how successful you are. It's not the winning, it's the losing. 50 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: You know you can win ten games, it's the one 51 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: loss of the two losses that eat away at you. Now, 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: these coaches expect to win. Trevor Lawrence expects to win. 53 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: He's never lost a regular season game until last week 54 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: against the Texans. His losses in high school were in 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: the postseason, and his losses at Clemson were in the 56 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: postseason as well. Urban doesn't lose regular season games. He's 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: going to have to get used to losing ten games 58 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: at the minimum. I mean, imagine that for a guy 59 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: who doesn't have patience, and you know he's had total autonomy. 60 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: You control everything, And now you go in and you're 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: trying to control and you can't, and then it starts 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: to spiral out of control, and then you know, you 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: get short with people. Hey, this isn't the way it's 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: supposed to happen. We're supposed to win. And now you 65 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: get national TV criticism because NFL coverage is different than 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Big ten coverage. Everybody wants to talk about, Hey, look 67 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: what's going on with Urban? Hey you interested in USC? 68 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: Urban decides that apparently he doesn't want to talk to 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: the Denver media. They have Denver coming up this week 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: and they're a home underdog to Denver. You can't do 71 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: that at Ohio State. You can not in the NFL. 72 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 1: And it starts to eat away at you. And then 73 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: you go, what am I thinking? I'm going to go 74 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: back to college as Steve Spurrier did, as Nick Saban did, 75 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: and is Urban going to go back to college? That's 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: why I think for a guy who's not interested in 77 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: anything to do with USC, apparently his name came up 78 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: by everybody. First name that came up, Herbert Meyer. Now 79 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: subsequently we've heard other names. I gave you James Franklin 80 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: yesterday and Bob Stoop's name came up, Matt Campbell came 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: up from Iowa State. You know. So there's names that 82 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: are going to be out there, but a lot of 83 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: these coaches are going to use this to get a 84 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: pay raise. Urban's got a great job. You know, he 85 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: wanted to come back. He had the number one pick 86 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: in the draft. The reason why he's coming back he 87 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: had Trevor Lawrence. They're waiting for him, a one in 88 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: a generation quarterback. But this is all about the staff 89 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: that you build, the infrastructure you have, and that's what's 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to watch with Urban because you 91 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: don't you don't want to get used to losing, but 92 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: you better get used to losing, certainly this year. Yeah, Paul, 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: you want to play the guess how many regular season 94 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: losses Urban Meyer had in his seven years at Ohio State. Game? 95 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: In seven seasons at Ohio State, how many regular season 96 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: losses did he have? Seven? That's correct? One a year, yeah, 97 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: and one of the years he had none. Yeah. How 98 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: long does it take for him to get seven losses 99 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: this year? By Thanksgiving? Seven weeks? Yeah? What's seven weeks today? 100 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: Let's have a bye. They're going to win. I mean 101 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: they're going to win a couple of games, and you know, 102 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: I think they're underdogs in every game, but they will. 103 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: It's like the Texans, they're bad, but it just it's 104 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: really hard to go undefeated and really hard to go 105 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: winless in the NFL. But if you if you have 106 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: that great draft class in college, you can have a 107 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: great recruiting class and that can change your fortunes. But 108 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: he's so used to having the best talent at Florida 109 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: and certainly at Ohio State. You know, the coaching he 110 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: did prior to that, you know, that's where we didn't 111 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: know him. He wasn't on the radar as much. And 112 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 1: the fact that he stopped through Notre Dame and wanted 113 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: to have from what I'm told, he wanted to have 114 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: the same kind of recruiting windows that Lou Holtz ad 115 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: and they said, no, we're not going to allow you 116 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: to have two players that we can get in who 117 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't be getting into Notre Dame. And he just kept 118 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: driving down to Florida. That was it. Urban would have 119 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: been at Notre Dame all right, eight seven seven three 120 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: D P show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, 121 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: Twitter handle a DP show here's urban. Yesterday, when asked 122 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: about the possibility of USC, you said, from the get 123 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: go with this job, with the kind of your dream 124 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: job as a right scenario. Unfortunately for you, some rumors 125 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: came out yesterday and connecting you to the USC job. 126 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: I just just want to give you opporunity to refute it, 127 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: so there's no chance that I'm here and committed to 128 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: try to build an organization. Okay, First of all, I 129 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: think i'd phrase the question a little bit more manly. 130 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Not an opportunity to refute it, how about an opportunity 131 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: to comment? Yes, And actually, if you go right back 132 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: before that he goes. Unfortunately for you, your name came 133 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: up in rumors. What do you mean? Unfortunately, it should 134 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: be flattered that his name was the first one to unfortunately, Yeah, 135 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Yeah, not exactly an interrogation there, 136 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, I just want to give you an opportunity 137 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: to refute to refute that, of course. And yes, mclovin, 138 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean it is pretty crazy. One game into his 139 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: NFL career and he's already been a rumored for other places. Well, 140 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I think it's the timing of the firing at USC, 141 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: because you're not used to this, and you're going, okay, 142 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 1: September firing at a big programs. That's why I was like, wow, 143 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: why would they fire him unless they knew? And you know, 144 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Eric B. Enemy's name came up yesterday the Kent City 145 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Chiefs offensive coordinator, and you know, while he said, hey, 146 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: that's one of the jobs that I would take in college, 147 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: I think he still wants to be an NFL coach. 148 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: But when can you get Eric B. Enemy. Let's say 149 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: USC says, hey, Eric B. Enemy, who's interested. We'll hire you, 150 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: but you have to leave now. I don't want you 151 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: to be waiting until February, and you'd have to wait 152 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: for Eric B. Enemy until February. And I think that's 153 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: another interesting part of this is when do you get 154 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: the coach that you want? Because you've opened it up 155 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: and everybody KNOWSSC has an opening now, But when do 156 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: you get to take advantage of that and be able 157 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: to hire somebody. It's going to be a while, And 158 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: I think that that's something you got a factor in 159 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: as well. Who were you getting and when are you 160 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: getting them? I don't know if somebody's going to ask 161 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: James Franklin based off what I said yesterday. I don't 162 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: know if he was available after our show yesterday, but 163 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: i'd be curious what he would say about that, because 164 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: his response that we played yesterday was not really a denial, 165 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: kind of a non denial denial. Yeah, McLevin. There's nothing 166 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: dumber than the fact that the assistant coaches on the 167 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams can't get hired. I don't know if 168 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: they've changed the rules, but those are supposedly the best 169 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: assistant coaches and they never get the job because the 170 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: guys are out of the playoffs. Do but I think 171 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: that they change that or tweaked that a little bit 172 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: because I know that that had been a big issue 173 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: and it was unfair to somebody who was the more 174 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: success you had, the less likely it was so you 175 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: were going to get hired because you were going to 176 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: be playing in late January or February. This program brought 177 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: to you by Dollars Shave Club. 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So it gives you a little more wiggle room, 187 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: but it's still a kind of a crapshoot. What else 188 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: do you have ink clubbing? Well, I have a poll question. 189 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: If you're Urban Meyer and you've got access to a 190 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: time machine, do you go back and not take the 191 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Jags job? Do you go back and not leave Ohio State? 192 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: Or do you go back and as a fun one, 193 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: do you start Joe Burrow over Dwayne Haskins. Although Haskins 194 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: was pretty good too, Yeah he was. They had a 195 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: pretty good one and done year. It's amazing that he 196 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: beat out Joe Burrow a time machine poll question. Well, 197 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: I think health wise that that helped the decision to 198 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: step down at Ohio State. I think Urban needed to 199 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: um Man. There's there's only a couple of great jobs 200 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: in college football, like truly great jobs. I heard Bill Plashky, 201 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: the La Times columnists yesterday on Around the horn. He said, 202 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: USC is one of the top three programs or top 203 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: three jobs, and I went, no, it's not. No, that's 204 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: the problem with you know, these guys who were in 205 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: their fifties, they are like, oh, you know student body 206 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: right and all the Heisman trophies, And kids nowadays don't care. 207 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: They don't care about all these Heisman trophies. They want 208 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: to know who's the coach? Can I play? And can 209 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: I play on Sunday? What kind of style? What do 210 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: we have? Like, you're eighteen years of age, what do 211 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: you know? What do you know about USC? What do 212 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: you care about USC? If I said, hey, what do 213 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: you know about USC? And what do you know about Oregon? Oh? Man, 214 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: Oregon's got those great uniforms. Have you been around an 215 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: eighteen year old? Because I've had four go through my 216 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: family here. You know, they're now older. But when they're 217 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: eighteen and you have a conversation with them, like what 218 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: do you like? What do you want to do? They're eighteen, 219 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: they're not fifty. Where you go, yeah, oh my god, USC, 220 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: I love it? Well, yeah, we saw it at its peak. 221 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: These kids nowadays, they may look at Coastal Carolina and 222 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: go man, I love I love the Colors, Matt. I mean, 223 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: that's what you have to understand. And it's hard to 224 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: understand that because you're going. Of course, you want to 225 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: go play, you want to play there. What in your 226 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: lifetime or in the last ten years, what is it 227 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: about USC that you'd go, Yep, that's where I want 228 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: to be. Yeah. Like the last star player that really 229 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: crossed over at USC football has got to be Reggie 230 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: Bush right where he was a household name going into 231 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: his junior year and up for the Heisman, great highlights, 232 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Reggie Bush graduate left USC in two 233 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: thousand and five. That's sixteen years ago. So if you're seventeen, 234 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: you were one when he was a star there and 235 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: unless your parents, but then you don't listen to your parents, 236 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: and when your parents go, you know, you need to 237 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: go to USC. Like USC is losing some marquee quarterback 238 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: or well, you know, Southern California. These are more key 239 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who are playing at Clemson in Alabama. That never happened. 240 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury, you played at USC. He's going to join 241 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: us coming up next hour. He's agitated about this because 242 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: I agree with what he's been saying. These kids nowadays, Hey, 243 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: what's on TikTok? And before you go? Now that, I mean, 244 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: these kids are aware of other things name, image and likeness. 245 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: Oh you can take advantage of Southern California, can you? Like? Okay? 246 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: It seems like when you get to the a city 247 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: where the school is the only thing, that's when you 248 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: take advantage of name, image, and likeness Southern California, USC UCLA. 249 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, I gotta wait in line for 250 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: all the other guys who are getting benefits. Yeah. Yeah, 251 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I have Lebron here, Anthony Davis, Cody Bellinger. 252 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: You're not going to get to the USC quarterback until 253 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: one hundred. Yeah, but I watch a highlight this morning, 254 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: the Florida Alabama rivalry in two thousand and nine. Florida 255 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: was the dominant team. They're like, Alabama shocked Florida, like 256 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: made a statement if changes, doesn't it. What do you 257 00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: think of my quarterback at Florida, the kid Anthony Richardson. Yes, 258 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: well he's not starting yet, I know, but I'm fascinated 259 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: by him. Who does he remind you of? Like if 260 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts played quarterback, He's he's one of those guys. 261 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: He's like six to five about you know, two forty 262 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: and you're just going and that's a quarterback. He's listen 263 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: at six four two thirty eight and I don't think 264 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: he's only two thirty eight. Yeah, he's he's a Really 265 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: he was doing backflips prior to the game last week. 266 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean not that that you want that from your quarterback, 267 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: but I'm just I was. I was watching the highlights 268 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: and they go, oh boy, get ready for this whatever 269 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: this is. 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Or if Washington wins, I'll be like, Okay, 294 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: they're going to be a team to uh, you know, 295 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: contend NFC East. It's the perception of Thursday night, the 296 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: standalone game. The standalone game on Sunday Night is Chiefs 297 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: and the Ravens. Chris Collinsworth will be there with Al 298 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: Michaels Michelle Tafoya. Kickoff at eight twenty and the festivities 299 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: begin at seven Eastern on Football Night in America Chris, 300 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. I know that you were at Florida, 301 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: spent your college days at Florida. Were you recruited by 302 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: West Coast teams back then? I was. I got recruited 303 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: by USC and flew out there knowing there was no 304 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: way I was leaving Florida at eighteen years old and 305 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: flying and go in LA. But somebody offers you a 306 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: free trip to Los Angeles. You've never been before. I've 307 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: never even been on an airplane by the time I 308 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: got my first recruiting trip to Florida State and I 309 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: can remember just sitting there staring out the window, like 310 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: this is the most incredible thing ever. But um here's 311 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: my recruiting trip. Anthony Munos took me to a Lakers game. 312 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: They gave him. They gave him two hundred bucks to 313 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: take me out on the town. He takes me to 314 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: halftime the Lakers game, goes at this game's kind of boring, 315 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: Let's get out of here, like, oh, okay, we're gonna 316 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: go party in LA. All right, let's go do this. 317 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: Driving me back to the hotel, hands me twenty bucks 318 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: to get a cheese burger and says, hey, it's been 319 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: a great time hope you come here, takes the other 320 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty bucks and pockets a sucker and 321 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: goes home. But as part of the trip, I got 322 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: to watch O. J. Simpson play tennis. They took me 323 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: to his house. I got to see the Heisman Trophy. 324 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: I got to sit out in a little chair and 325 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: I think it was his agent's house while they played tennis. 326 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: And that was that was a big part of my 327 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: recruiting trip. We were talking about Urban Meyer. You know 328 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: that you can get a recruiting class in college and 329 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: it can change you know, your your your program. He 330 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 1: can't really do that. And I don't know if you 331 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: can get used to losing so it doesn't eat away 332 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: you would as much. But you know that whole college 333 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: experience of going from Ohio State where he lost seven 334 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 1: regular season games, he might lose seven by Thanksgiving. What 335 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: advice would you give Urban to sort of not accept losing, 336 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: but somehow tolerate losing for a little while so it 337 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: doesn't eat him up. You know, it's a really good 338 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: point that you control the whole process when you're in 339 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: college football. If you have bad players at your own 340 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: fall right, you didn't go recruit the best players that 341 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: are out there. It's a humbling experience, you know, either 342 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: one way or the other. At Florida my junior year, 343 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: we switched coaches and we went oh ten and one. 344 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget that experience as long as I live, 345 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: just because it was like every time you went into 346 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: one of these big lecture halls that had were five 347 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: hundred people and you would inevitably there would be some 348 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: joke made about the football team. And I never really 349 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: experienced that. You know, in high school we were always good. 350 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: We started off pretty good at Florida when you were 351 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: oh ten and one, and I always thought that alone, 352 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: I could win one game, you know, just just go on, 353 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: Surely I can make enough players to win one game 354 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: in a season. And it just was so insane to 355 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: go through that. And for Urban, I don't think he's 356 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: ever had a losing season in college. I had him 357 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: on a show once and I looked, I remember, like, 358 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: I think it's seventeen years, he's never had a losing year. 359 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: And sitting on the sideline the other day watching what 360 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: was supposed to be the worst team in football kind 361 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: of eats a bunch alive over there. I don't think 362 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: there's any way to get used to that. I don't 363 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he was flattered and when some of 364 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: the USC rumors were starting to kick around out there, 365 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's him either. You know, I 366 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: think you'll stay the course. He's gonna be fine. He's 367 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: a good coach. But the other thing is you may 368 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: not be able to quaite work NFL players the way 369 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: that you could just sort of work Tim Tebow in 370 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: that crowd. The only guy that I really ever saw 371 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: and get away with that was Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson 372 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: when he first went to Dallas, they said those were 373 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: among the hardest practices in the history of the National 374 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: Football there. And of course when they went one game 375 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: i think their first year, and then after that it 376 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: was game on. Yeah. I just don't know. You can 377 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: see every loss on Urban's face, and there's not a 378 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: lot of lossuits, but it just feels like you it's 379 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: gonna eat you up, like you know, Saban when he 380 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: went to the Dolphins, or Spurrier when he went to Washington. 381 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: You know, they were like, I can't control this. I 382 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: don't like this. I'm going back to college and I 383 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: don't want to say that Urban pulls the rip cord 384 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: after one year, but I don't see him coach the 385 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: entire contract there because I just don't. I don't think 386 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: it's in his DNA. Well. You know the other thing 387 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: about Urban is he did walk away from it at 388 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: one point, right, And I'm not so sure if it 389 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: was him or his family or the pressure. And even 390 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: in broadcasting, you know, I mean, would I do the 391 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: stuff with GFF now? And I can remember when I 392 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: first started doing this, if I had one newspaper article 393 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: from the San Diego Times or whatever the newspaper is 394 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: out there, that was like gold, right, I could build 395 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: a whole broadcast around that one article. Because it was 396 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: before the internet, you didn't have the information. Now I couldn't. 397 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't study all of the stuff that is put 398 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: in front of me if I had a month, as 399 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: they'd get ready for one of these games. So there's 400 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: this frustrating feeling of you're never finished. You know, you're 401 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: never ready, You're never quite ready for the game. And 402 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: for somebody who's won is my Urban has won. When 403 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: he loses, we already know that about his personality. He 404 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: takes that on himself. He internalized that. So he's gonna 405 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: be like, he's not doing enough for the Jacksonville Jaguars 406 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: to win football games. And you just worry about somebody 407 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: who has never lost. I mean, he has never lost 408 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: during the course of his career. How that will impact 409 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: him because we did see him walk away once He's 410 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: Chris college Worth. NBC Sunday Night Football will be the 411 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: Ravens and the Chiefs. I was saying this early well 412 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: on Monday, that I could put together a highlight reel 413 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson of all the incredible things he did 414 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: in that first game, but I could also put together 415 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: highlight reel of all the negative things. And it's only 416 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: one game. Like there was a like a Brett Farveyan 417 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: type feel too. I can keep us in the game, 418 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: and I can keep you in the game. After watching, 419 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, the highlights or the game footage, what do 420 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: you take away from what Lamar Jackson is trying to 421 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: do or needs to do. Yeah, it's not unfair. And 422 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: in particular, one thing you take away from almost all 423 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: his tape is that when the game's really on the line, 424 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: that read option is no longer an option, right. He 425 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: wants that ball in his hands like they almost bumbled 426 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: one because the running back saw the read just like 427 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: he did and knew that ball was his. He saw 428 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: that guy just sitting there crashing down inside. But it 429 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: didn't matter. Lamar was going to take it on his hands. 430 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: One of the things I'm going to talk about during 431 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: the broadcast is that Lamar, I think when he has 432 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: more space to work with, is even better. I think 433 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson will drop eleven yards deep 434 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: into the backfield, and when he steps up, that forces 435 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: the angle of those defensive linemen be much deeper. So 436 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: what was happening in the game the other day? He 437 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: would step up, I mean he would only take a 438 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: yard or two drop after the shygun staff and he 439 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: would be at about seven yards maybe six yards, and 440 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: so those ends of the raiders were just crashing almost 441 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: horizontally down on him. And also impacting him was the 442 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: rush up the middle. But if he were to go 443 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: to a little bit more, which he did in this game, 444 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: sum to about a ten or eleven yard depth, and 445 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: the angles of those pass rushing ends becomes much more vertical. 446 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: Now they're ten yards deep with him. When he steps 447 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: up in between that, there's only two defensive tackles in there. 448 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: There's not two defensive tackles anywhere in the land. They're 449 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: going to slow that kid down when he starts stepping 450 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: up into that space. So to me, if I were 451 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: coaching him, I would try to create as much space 452 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: around him, which would meet a much more vertical drop 453 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: and a deeper drop than what he's doing right now. 454 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: What about an backfield? Why not put somebody else in 455 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: another alignment or another wide receiver and just get rid 456 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: of the running back. They do some of that, and 457 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: it's a really good point, and it is successful and 458 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: it does work. The problem is they're playing seventeen games now, 459 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: and as great as Lamar is, I still think you 460 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: want him picking spots. I still think that's why Justin 461 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: Fields is probably really well served playing at least some 462 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: of this season behind Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton was playing 463 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald the other night. He knew he had to 464 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: get that ball out of his hands in two seconds. 465 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: His average time to release against Aaron Donald was two 466 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: point at oh eight seconds. Now, to give you some perspective, 467 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: the fastest in the league last year was Ben Roethlisberger 468 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: about two point two, so he knew what he had 469 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: to get done. But until you watch or play against 470 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: an Aaron Donald, you don't understand how fast that ball 471 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: has to come out of your hands. And so and 472 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: I think in the same way, Lamar is a guy 473 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: that you want to be able to control the rush, 474 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: and you want to be able to control when you're 475 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: running the football. You don't want to be just taking 476 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: off in seventeen games a year and running ten twelve 477 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: times a game. You're just not going to hold up. 478 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: And any chance the Ravens have to win a Super Bowl, 479 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: obviously he's built around Lamar. What did you take away 480 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: from the Rams that you think is going to be sustainable? Man, 481 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: I really like Matthew Stafford. Dan I went back and 482 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: so I didn't We don't do that many Lions games. 483 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: It would just doubled over the course of every many 484 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 1: years now. And I said, Okay, I'm going to get 485 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: ready for this game. And it was about a month 486 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: before the game. I'm just gonna watch all Matthew Staffords 487 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: throws from last year. I just I've got to get 488 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: a feel. So he's played in three playoff games, he 489 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: hasn't won any They trade the world for him. They're 490 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: gonna get him, So let me just watch. He is 491 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: really good. He is really good. To just remember at 492 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: the end of this year, I came on this show 493 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: very early and said he's better than I thought. And 494 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: the reason is a he's got the big gun. I mean, 495 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. But he threw some forty 496 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: five yard seam routes after scrambling after the play broke down, 497 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: and threw these rocket shots inside of NFL starting free 498 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: safeties in the midbile field, and it got there before 499 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: they did. On those digs and those crossing routes that 500 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: are over the middle. Watch him. They didn't throw any 501 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: other night, which I was really disappointed in because I 502 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: wanted to show it on television. But watch him. Just 503 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: maneuver with his eyes and he'll he'll get a guy 504 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: to take one step and then he's so cocky with 505 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: his arm he'll throw that thing. He'll and I can't 506 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: tell you how many throws in a row over the 507 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: middle I saw that probably missed the linebacker's hands by 508 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: a foot. It's almost like he's teasing him, like a 509 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: bullfighter or something. And he's like, you got this, and 510 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: then oh, you know, and he's got him. And so 511 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: it's really interesting to me when those guys are at 512 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: the high end of that and we don't see it 513 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: that often, and we didn't see it that often because 514 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: the team and in particular, the defenses that he had 515 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: on those teams simply wasn't very good. Are you in 516 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: Liker in love? I'm in life right now. I'm in 517 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: like you know, I still think that you love guys 518 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: with a proven track record of not just getting to 519 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs, the winning and coming from behind and being 520 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: able to Patrick Mahomes is a unique guy. He has 521 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: proven now and he proved it again the other day 522 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: against Cleveland that he can take a really bad situation 523 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: and go over to the bench. You go, guys, come on, 524 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: I got this. Don't worry about it. You guys just 525 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: got there and run around a little bit and I'll 526 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: take care of us. And he does. You know. Aaron Rodgers, 527 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, the great ones have a proven track record 528 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: that they do it not just in the regular season, 529 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: but in the postseason. And and I may love him, 530 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 1: but but I got to see that I know that 531 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: people we love to overreact. That's why Monday's called overreaction Monday. 532 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: But is there a proper what's the proper reaction to 533 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: green Bay's performance against the scenes is one of those 534 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: puking emojis or something. I don't know that was. That 535 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: was pretty ugly and I don't think it would have 536 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: driven any of us crazy. But for what happened this offseason, 537 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that was as unsettled an off 538 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: season is perhaps the city of Green Bay has ever had, 539 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: and people choosing sides and people, oh, let him go 540 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: to Denver, or we don't care, are you crazy? You know, 541 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: we're Love's not ready for this thing. You know, it 542 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: just was back and forth and back and forth. And 543 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: last year we clearly saw that ticked off Aaron Rodgers. 544 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: He did not like the fact that they drafted Jordan Love, right, 545 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: he did not like that. He came into camp and 546 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: he was mad. And you know, Aaron, he's really good 547 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: when he's mad at the world and focused and locked in. 548 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: And this year they sort of went through whatever they 549 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: went through. And so even if they get beat on 550 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: opening day, you go big deal. You know, Okay, it's 551 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 1: going to take a little while to get it going, 552 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: But the fact that they got beat like that, and 553 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: they got beat by a Saints team that we weren't 554 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: sure was going to be any good, and by Jameis 555 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: Winston who threw five touchdown passes on twenty throats. On 556 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: twenty throats, he threw five touchdown passes. Now you start 557 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: to go, did this impact Okay, I'm nine percent sure 558 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers gonna be fine. He's gonna bounce back, He's 559 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: gonna play the way he always says. It's gonna be fine. 560 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: But did this somehow impact this football team in a 561 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: way that is going to impact them as we go 562 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: through the season. That's the part I don't think any 563 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: of us though. Yet we love these lists and you 564 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: know a Pro Football Focus or NFL Network or ESPN, 565 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: like you know, greatest players of all time. It feels 566 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: like people have a problem saying Tom Brady's greatest football 567 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: player of all time because he's not a great athlete, 568 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: like greatest resume? How do you how do you kind 569 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: of define that greatest player of all time? Is it 570 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: the greatest athlete who is also great at his job 571 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: like Jim Brown or Lawrence Taylor or whoever you want 572 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: to throw in there. But or is Tom Brady the 573 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: greatest player of all time? Let me ask you this question. 574 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: This is my legal training coming back. You know you 575 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: are a lawyer. Well, I'm not a lawyer, but I 576 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: did graduate, so that that counts for something. Was bab 577 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: Was Babe Ruth a great athlete? Yes? He was? Yeah, 578 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: So could Tom Brady be that same kind of great athlete? 579 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: So in other words, I don't think I mean to 580 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: me among the greatest athletes I have ever seen in 581 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: my lifetime as Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods never gave up 582 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: the lead in a sport that is built to show 583 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: how many times if you and I played golf, and 584 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,479 Speaker 1: we've been through a thousand situations, we've broadcast Super Bowls, 585 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: we've we've been at the free throw line with the 586 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: game on the line, we've done we've done all that stuff, 587 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: and yet there's something about holding a golf club that 588 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: makes you show you just do it. Anybody be lying 589 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: if they said they never choked on the golf course. 590 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: And this guy, for I don't know how many tournaments 591 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,959 Speaker 1: in a row when he had the league, never spit 592 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: it up. He never gave it up. So to me, 593 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: great athletes. It's as much about what you do in 594 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: those moments with everything on the line, and Tom Brady 595 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: time after time after time has just delivered on that. 596 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: And now you can't even say, oh, well, it was 597 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots, it was the great teams, it was Belichick, 598 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: it was whatever. It was his ability to bring that 599 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: team together. They all talk about the text and the 600 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: messages that he sent before that Super Bowl to where 601 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: they walked in that stadium and they didn't think they 602 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: were going to and they knew they were going to 603 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: lift because they had Tom Brady at them. So you 604 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: would say, Brady's greatest football player of all time? Not 605 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: even close. Great to talk to you as always, Chris, 606 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: and we'll be watching on Sunday Night, my best of 607 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: the family. Thank you, bun Man. Good seeing that. That's 608 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: Chris collins Worth, NBC Sunday Night Football, Al Michaels and 609 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: Michelle Tafoya. Interesting USC answer. They've gone over to OJ's 610 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: house to watch him play tennis. Oh Boy. Football Night 611 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: in America starts at seven Eastern. Could I have been 612 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: clumsier in asking the question about Tom Brady greatest football 613 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: player of all time? Like it's a great athlete, and 614 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: then where Lawrence Taylor and Jim Brown? And then uh, 615 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: shut up? Yes, no, I think you have to do 616 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: the semantics of the question, because when you say the 617 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: greatest football player of all time? Night is it resume? 618 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: Is it ability? Is it career? But he I should 619 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: have just said, who's the greatest football player of all time? 620 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: Want to call him back? No, he's probably still listening. Sorry, Chris, 621 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: I yeah, he just gave me a thumbs up. Sorry 622 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: about that. Took forever. Just spit it out. Spit it out, damn. 623 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: Let me prove that I know football. Let me say 624 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: this to Chris collins Worth here. Shut up. You had 625 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of good questions in there. You had a 626 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: bunch of it's a great point, and it's a great point. 627 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: Chris said it several times. I know, I know, but 628 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: it was a bad, poorly worded question. And I can't 629 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: blame Fritzie. He's not here. I gets that'll stay with 630 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: me for the next two and a half hours. He 631 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: asked me, loving you look like you're poised to say something. 632 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: There's no way Tom Brady's a better football player than 633 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders or Randy Boss. I'll just say that. All right, 634 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: We'll take a break here. Thanks for listening to The 635 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 636 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine 637 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us 638 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live 639 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. He's my Carmen, I'm Dan Byer. 640 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: We have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I 641 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: Want Your Flex. 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Hi. 655 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm Sean, You're James Patterson. Here's my problem, Dan, I 656 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: went I went to HB. Grocery store the other day. 657 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, and the grocery checkout guy says, well, 658 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: I check out grocery. What kind of celebrity are you? 659 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: So I go through that every day of my day 660 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: of life. You just went through. What's getting me? All 661 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: with you? Man? How are you? And I'm good, good, 662 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: good to talk to you. I saw I saw your 663 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: tweet twere you're a little fired up about your your 664 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: alma mater us. What makes you most upset about this situation? 665 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: And I'm quite tired of our alma mater us as 666 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: former players, border regents, alumni, fans, and you know, Dan, 667 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: I love my Trojans and you're familiar with our troo. 668 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 1: We talked about it for many years. Is the arrogance 669 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: and pride that we think a seventeen year old kid 670 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: who plays Madden has any idea that I played or 671 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: that we won a national championship in seventy eight. They 672 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: don't care. Hey, man, you got to do it the 673 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: Trojan way. Yeah, what's the Trojan way? Going eight and three? 674 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: And ended up in the l Paso and you're playing 675 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: any game at UTEP And I'm being a bit facetious, 676 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: But Dan, that it bothers me because we got to 677 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: get out of that mode of seventeen year old kids 678 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: had about it having about a five year attention span. 679 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: They want to know about name, image and likeness. They 680 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: want to make sure they can play on TV every week, 681 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: National TV. They want to make sure they can play 682 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 1: for a national title. They want to make sure that 683 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: the NFL's waiting on him, and that you understand what 684 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: you know where they're coming from. The kid at modern 685 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: day think about this, Dan, The kid at modern day 686 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: knows more about the uniforms at Oregon and they're a 687 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 1: good program than they do about student body. Right, So 688 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: if you're going to be the next coach, you better 689 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: buy in. So the arrogance of us see the history 690 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: and tradition of a program. Those kids can get that 691 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: when they get there. The histories for you and I 692 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: to mull over, Dan, remember when I was in nineteen 693 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: eighty one and I was recruited and can you say 694 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: that to a kid because no, no, Sean, I didn't 695 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: even know you did that, man, Remember, And that's probably 696 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: the grocery checker kid, let alone the recruit. So you've 697 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: got to understand, Nick, say, you've got to do the 698 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: now and what's happening, what's going to happen the next 699 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: five years for him, that's what they want to know. 700 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: They could care less about history and tradition. That's just 701 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: that's the era we're in and that coach better understand that. 702 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: Any better keep guys in one hundred and fifty mile 703 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: radius in the state and in the southern California area 704 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: and at USC. Okay, is this a mar key job 705 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: that you can go out and say, hey, we want you, 706 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: like we can pick and choose who we want. Is 707 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: it a great program? It's a dan the name's great. 708 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: And I don't want this to sound conflictory. Conflictory to 709 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: what I said. It's still people still know who USC is. 710 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: The problem is we can't. It's like going in and 711 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: misplaced when you're going through an interview, misplacing what you're 712 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: trying to sell about your program. I'm not trying to 713 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: sell Marcus Allen Heisman Trophy when you walk into the 714 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: Kay Center, you'll see that once we got you on campus, Dan, 715 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: when I was there and before me and after me, 716 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: with all those great players, and it wasn't one of 717 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: them like we you know, we need dogs in the program. 718 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: We got good players. Don't miss understand me. But think 719 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: about four the top quarterbacks in college football. They're all 720 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: playing in the sea. They're playing somewhere else. And it's 721 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: not a knock Slows is just the yearly thing we 722 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: used to be. If you came in, I think about 723 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: a dog in your backyard, and we need dogs in 724 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: the program. But it used to be that in our backyard. 725 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: If you wanted to take us out of southern California, 726 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: that you had to come in, pick us up, steal 727 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: us and take us. And here's the recruiting trip, here's 728 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: where you are, here's why you want to play here. 729 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: Now we had s We just opened the gate for you. 730 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: Oh come on out, man, go on and play for 731 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: Nick Saban. He can waltz into your backyard. When a 732 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: guy at modern day knows more about Alabama's program than 733 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: he does the guys that are within thirty miles or 734 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: fifty miles of campus. We got a problem. Yes, it's 735 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: still got that. It is USC, but we're no longer 736 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: that guy Dan. We're a guy. It's like the guy 737 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: the third the backup tight end who's trying to be 738 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: that guy but he's not yet. We're now used to 739 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: be that guy. Now we're just a guy in college 740 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: football that We're a guy to Oregon, we're a guy 741 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: to Clemson, We're a guy to those programs. And there's 742 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of US Florida State, Miami, Texas, UH, Nebraska, 743 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: but we're at the top of that. So we're still 744 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: it's still USC, but it isn't USC. You gotta recruit hard, Okay, 745 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the a d y. There's there's fifty 746 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: guys we're gonna hear and I don't need to repeat 747 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: the James Franklins and the Matt I'd love I'd love 748 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: to interview him. Let me give you a few that 749 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: I'd be really interested in talking to and that I like, 750 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: I need somebody. I don't care if he's sixty five 751 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: or thirty six. I need energy to match the player 752 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: and understand landscapes. Chain So a sneaky name, why not 753 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: Joe Brady, young guy everywhere he's been Joe Joe Burrow 754 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: what he's gonna do with Darnold And I like him, 755 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: and he's done it quickly and it needs a quick 756 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: turn around. And he will have twenty two first rounds 757 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: a year coordinator for Carolina and who was at the 758 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: LSU and Burrow had that big year. Yeah, I'm just 759 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 1: giving you a sneak. I'm not giving you the Franklins 760 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: or Campbells. I also am intrigued with q Free. Liberty's 761 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,959 Speaker 1: doing some great things. I like how he's turned it around. 762 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: He's he's coached in big time SEC. But Dan, you 763 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: know what, we guess what Sometimes that baggage it may 764 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: be a Duffel bag now instead of full three three 765 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: piece suitcase. Okay, I'm willing to take a little bit 766 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: of risk to get all the reward USC needs. I 767 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: like Eric b Enemy And here's why No. Southern California 768 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: continues to get denied in the NFL. It takes a 769 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: lot to bring that guy, you know, the NFL coach 770 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: who is used to it. Now he's got to go 771 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: babysit in college. But Viennemy, No Southern California knows recruits 772 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: and also it's a guy with so much energy. I 773 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: think Eb's in his fifties, Dan, but when you when 774 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 1: you're around him, there's an enthusiasm that he's thirty, and 775 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: he also enthusiasm that he understands what these kids want 776 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: and he can take some of what Andy's doing what 777 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: he wants. I like that, of course. I like Jack 778 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: del Rio because there's a toughness about him. Dan, that's 779 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: another thing we've lacked. We're getting our rear and take 780 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: into the woodshed physically at the line of scrimmage, and 781 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: that's not the way it's supposed to be. You got 782 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: to be able to do a lot of concepts. But 783 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: at Nick Saban when he needs to, can hand it 784 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: off eight straight times and wear you out. So those 785 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: are some names, and then you're gonna get your Matt Campbell's, 786 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: You're Mario Christa Balls, you know your James Franklin's. I 787 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: get it. I'm intrigued with Brian Dable in Buffalo and 788 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: see what he can do. But does he even want 789 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: to coach college football? So there's some names. My guy, 790 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: Jack Delri would be great because he understands the landscape 791 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: and he's tough and more importantly, Dan than just the 792 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: head coach. Please find me a friggin staff. You better 793 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: have guys that want to go spend Friday night recruiting. 794 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: It can't be. Nick Saban is a great recruiter and 795 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: he still does it, but Dan, let's face facts. Players 796 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 1: recruit Nick Saban now right. I want to be there. 797 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: That's the way it used to be with John Robinson 798 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: when I was there. I want to play for that guy. 799 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: But now it's to the point you really got You 800 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: got to do some legwork. You got to drive to 801 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: Bakersfield and go get that guy. You got to show 802 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: up modern day, at Crenshaw, at Verbum Day, all its crespeed, 803 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: and we're not doing enough. If Clay help the good guy, 804 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: but the leadership has been lost. You have got to 805 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: change it, and it can't. I don't care if it's 806 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: a sexy name. I need a guy who understands a 807 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: player and can recruit the player. But also where the 808 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: mom and dad say ooh, he's gonna make a million 809 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 1: of name image and like this, and we're gonna play 810 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: for a national title. We can't do just the guy. 811 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: We got to be that guy or we'll continue to 812 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: be chasing teams like Oregon and other teams in the 813 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: Pac twelve. Sean Salisbury, former NFL quarterback and of course, 814 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: host of the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety 815 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: in Houston. Hey, how about them Texans? Man? Well, Dan 816 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: probably a one seed in the NFL playoffs because we 817 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: don't overreact on well first week. Dan. The one thing 818 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: I did, and I'll say this out loud and screamed 819 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: to the high events, I think that Tyrod Taylor was 820 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: perfect for what they had to have this year. I 821 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: think he's a more patient quarterback than de Shaun Watson 822 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have the hero syndrome have to make 823 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: every play in the process to Sean will make fifty 824 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: more plays against great teams. I don't know how much 825 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: chance they got against Cleveland. I mean, it may be 826 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: a little bit of Toledo vers Notre Dame. But if 827 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: they can play like Toledo Dide, we may have a shot. 828 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to do everything perfect because I 829 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: still think Cleveland after their performance, is a Final four 830 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: super Bowl caliber and could be in that position. But 831 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: the Texans better enjoy it. And that's why I'm glass 832 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: half will enjoy it. Why you can because you may 833 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: not be jumping and hit your head on the ceiling 834 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: many more times during this season. Great to catch up 835 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: with you as always. Thanks for bringing the passion. I 836 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Brother, Thanks for having me on that Sehn 837 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: Salisbury Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston. Seahn's all fired 838 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,439 Speaker 1: up there about his alma mater.