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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up,

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Speaker 1: straight Fire Fan, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: June eight. Another fun night in the Association. Ah. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is back. Rob G and I. We've got

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Speaker 1: some steaming hot takes, like scalding to the point where

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Speaker 1: if you're listening to this while holding your phone, that

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Speaker 1: takes are gonna be so hot you're gonna drop your phone.

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Speaker 1: That's liable to happen. Also special guests joining us. If

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Speaker 1: you guys remember back in football season, anytime the Eagles

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Speaker 1: do anything, I bring on my guy, John Gonzalez because

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Speaker 1: he really, truth be told, the first guy to ever

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Speaker 1: put me on TV in any capacity was John Gonzalez

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. Now I say guy because CBS Sports Network

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Speaker 1: did give me a chance, way way way back twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: and then I went on a Philadelphia local show with

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Speaker 1: John Gonzalez only because I had a blog at the

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Speaker 1: time and he liked, you know, the cut of my jib.

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Speaker 1: We became friends. He's now out here in l a

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Speaker 1: good guy. His wife works at NFL Network, Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys know her. Um Gonzalez is a

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Speaker 1: good guy. You'll like what he has to say about

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Speaker 1: the Sixers. If you like the Sixers, um, if you're

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Speaker 1: a Hawks fan, you'll be very upset. But fear not.

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Speaker 1: I balance it out. You guys know him riding with

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Speaker 1: Trey Young in this series. But before we get to

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Speaker 1: Gonzalez and the Sixers, who are trying to save their

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Speaker 1: season tonight, they can't go down out too to Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: You can't just expect to go to the Highlight Factory

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Speaker 1: and win two. Before we get to that, we're not

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Speaker 1: opening with the Sun's blitzkrieg in the second half of Denver,

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Speaker 1: or this Michael Porter Jr. Injury, which doesn't sound great

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Speaker 1: given his history with his back. He played very poorly

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Speaker 1: in the second half. You wonder how much of it

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Speaker 1: was the injury. But again, we'll save the Sons for

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Speaker 1: a minute. I need to start right here or with

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Speaker 1: one simple fact. James Harden was right. A couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago, James Harden got into a verbal dispute with Janice,

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Speaker 1: and James Harden was quoted as saying, I wish I

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Speaker 1: could just run and be seven ft and just dunk

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Speaker 1: like that. Takes no skill at all that's James Harden

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Speaker 1: on Janice and is James Harden writer? Is James Harden? Right? Guys,

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Speaker 1: do you realize how bad Janice has been to start

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Speaker 1: the series against the Nets? They get deep pantsed by Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: they lose by thirty nine. Janice oh for three on threes,

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Speaker 1: two for five on threes in game one. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready for the stat? Janice has opened the playoffs first

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Speaker 1: six games from deep He has opened the series against

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Speaker 1: the Nets too, for ten at the foul line. How

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Speaker 1: many years have we been chirping about Janice can't shoot?

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Speaker 1: Joannie can't shoot three throws? And what is Jana still

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Speaker 1: not doing? I mean, we we crushed Ben Simmons, not me, them,

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Speaker 1: the outsiders, other media people. They kill Ben Simmons because

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Speaker 1: he can't shoot and he doesn't shoot threes. So are

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Speaker 1: we applauding honest for trying but stinking? I mean, baby,

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons says, you know what, I'm not ready to

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Speaker 1: could shoot threes and shoot two for fifteen like Yannas,

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Speaker 1: and it would be awful and I would get treaded.

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Speaker 1: So I'd rather just be shredded. For not shooting my shot.

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Speaker 1: It's like when I'll never forget this. We went to

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Speaker 1: Cancoon rob g you know, spring break in Cancun, a

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Speaker 1: forget this night because like you know, you're you're you're

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Speaker 1: incredible and me and my buddies must have struck out

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Speaker 1: It was like damn, but you know what a lesser

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Speaker 1: know what, us, I got no confidence? Hell to the know.

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Speaker 1: We went right back on that grind the next day.

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Speaker 1: And now I'll stop talking about spring break in college

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Speaker 1: And the Bucks just they look like they're gonna get swept.

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Speaker 1: James Harden's not even playing, Brooklyn's passing the ball around.

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Speaker 1: I think the bigger story here's the Bucks, folks. This

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Speaker 1: is the year the Bucks were supposed to finally figure

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Speaker 1: it out. I joked on social media that Boodenholzer might

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Speaker 1: win Game three. Maybe the Nets let their guard down

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Speaker 1: after a thirty nine point beat down, and maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: the next uh that the Nets lose and the Buck

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Speaker 1: don't know where to start with Chris Middleton. I have

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Speaker 1: And it's pretty clear Chris Middleton ain't waking up and

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Speaker 1: he's not built for these kind of moments. And it's fine.

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Speaker 1: Like he's a really good regular season player. And I've

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Speaker 1: said this down for a couple of weeks on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: The regular season shows off your strengths. The postseason shows

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Speaker 1: off your weaknesses. Milwaukee Bucks weaknesses are I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: He is extremely limited outside the pain. He's a non factor.

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Speaker 1: That's a fact people in the playoffs. Chris Middleton, he

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Speaker 1: against the Heat, but against the favorite nets, he is Wilton.

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Speaker 1: Chris Middleton a team high minus thirty. He had five turnovers,

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Speaker 1: also leading the team. He was pressing. You knew he

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Speaker 1: I stopped watching midway through the second quarter because I

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Speaker 1: Bootenholzer's gone, And I don't know, do you have to

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Speaker 1: Do you run it back? They have no chance against

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Speaker 1: the nets, And I feel like a bit of an

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Speaker 1: idiot for like the seventh time on the Milwaukee Bucks. UM,

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Speaker 1: I said, Janna's defended Jimmy Butler really well in the

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Speaker 1: I mean, why the hell would I say something like that.

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Speaker 1: Did I forget how incredible Kevin Durant is? I mean,

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Speaker 1: did everyone? You know? I got those people tweeting at me. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you said Luca is the best player in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Are you watching Kevin Durant like he is breathing? Are

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Speaker 1: you watching what he's doing? To be honest, I mean, guys,

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Speaker 1: Yanna Scott crossed up by Durant like six or seven

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Speaker 1: to the Celtics and Bucks. And Kevin Durant is trying

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Speaker 1: And listen, Lucas in the clubhouse. Okay, Lucas in the

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Speaker 1: we know Booten Older's adjustments historically have been terrible in

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Speaker 1: Then you talk about, well, shucks, can the Hawks get

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Speaker 1: going overboard here? You're going a little bit overboard. I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: first off, thank you for bringing up the O one Lakers,

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Speaker 1: who are the greatest postseason team in NBA history, statistically

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Speaker 1: I mean Brooklyn's looked fantastic like it in no way

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Speaker 1: They have looked incredible. But I've been saying all season

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Speaker 1: let me run downhill at you as fast as possible

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Speaker 1: But um, I'm glad that you brought up Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: fourteen all of a sudden, Rob My, my, My big

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Speaker 1: There is a whiff and I'm afraid to say it

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Speaker 1: out loud because I don't want to jinx of Jazz

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Speaker 1: and I don't want the Clippers. I don't want the

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Speaker 1: damn paper clips in the conference finals. There is a

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Speaker 1: whiff of Hey, man, Utah's kind of like Milwaukee awesome

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. You know, I see, I hear

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Speaker 1: you laughing, Rob, But in the back of my mind,

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Speaker 1: I'm really thinking that. Um. But nevertheless, my money, my

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Speaker 1: hard earned Benjamin's are on Utah tonight and the Jazz

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Speaker 1: better deliver. All right, Without further ado, let's get to

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Speaker 1: the man, John Gonzalez from The Ringer. Jason likes to

431
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Speaker 1: think he knows everything when it comes to sports. I

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Speaker 1: know what sports stands want, but for everything he doesn't,

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Speaker 1: he knows a guy who does. Let's just say I

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Speaker 1: know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 1: Let's welcome into straight fire. A guy who's been your

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Speaker 1: before you know, we like to bring back the good guests,

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Speaker 1: the big name guests. You know, when they push it

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Speaker 1: out on social media, we get like thousands and thousands

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Speaker 1: of listeners. John Gonzalez from The Ringer, John, how are you,

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Speaker 1: my man? Good to see you. Things. Things are pretty

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Speaker 1: good in McEntire world right now. Things are things are

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Speaker 1: all right, l A. You know you're out here starting

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Speaker 1: to open up a little bit. So, Uh, that's good.

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Speaker 1: But we brought you on the pod because the Philadelphia seventy,

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Speaker 1: a team near and dear to your heart, they're in

446
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Speaker 1: trouble one. They're down twenty at halftime. I had to

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Speaker 1: triple check Joel Embiid is playing correct? Yeah, yeah, okay,

448
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: he played and they got their butts kicked. They rallied

449
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Speaker 1: to make it interesting. John, Um, game twos must win. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it would have been nice to played one

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Speaker 1: game one for sure, things obviously in Philadelphia not going

452
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Speaker 1: as well as they are for you. Uh, it's it

453
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Speaker 1: was a disappointing game for sure. I mean, look, and

454
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Speaker 1: Be played his ass off. I mean he played fantastic. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They outscored the Hawk Spy what thirteen points when he

456
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Speaker 1: was on the floor and in thirty something minutes, thirty

457
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Speaker 1: nine minutes. The problem is he has a meniscus tear.

458
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Speaker 1: He hadn't played in a while, and you're asking him

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Speaker 1: to do way, way, way too much. And I think,

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Speaker 1: like what we're seeing, or what we saw in that

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Speaker 1: first game is that the Sixers are thin. Man. They

462
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Speaker 1: are Like after those first three guys, it drops off

463
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Speaker 1: a hill real quick, and without him on the floor,

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Speaker 1: they got outscored by seventeen and like, yeah, they made

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Speaker 1: it close down the stretch, but boy, that was ugly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the bench got just embarrassed. Dwight Howard total non factor,

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Speaker 1: thible who there's chatter that he may start game two.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you are privy to any of that.

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Speaker 1: UM good defender. He actually, you know, scored better than normal.

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Speaker 1: Um made a couple of threes, which is rare because

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a good shooter, but you know

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Speaker 1: him Cork, Cork Mas, George Hill. Like they were just embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, listen, we'll get the Doc Rivers and

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Speaker 1: all that first, but um, you know, where are we

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Speaker 1: after the game one loss at home? Member Sixers are

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Speaker 1: great at home? Is his def con fours and three,

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Speaker 1: we're no in your one yet, right I always scripted

478
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Speaker 1: death con thing. Where do you does it start at

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Speaker 1: five or start to five and counts down when you

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Speaker 1: get one? Global destruction? Okay? Well yeah, three feels about

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Speaker 1: right because you're right, like, uh, they've they're so so

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Speaker 1: so good at home and and that's really been like

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Speaker 1: their fallback position in these last couple of years. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you can't beat us at home? Well they just got

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Speaker 1: beat at home. And you know the cliche is you know,

486
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Speaker 1: series to start until you lose one at home. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the series definitely started. So I like Bible a little

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Speaker 1: bit more than you, But the Bible is not gonna

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Speaker 1: win them this series. I mean, what you're gonna need

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Speaker 1: is MBID who has already done a ton, and then

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Speaker 1: you're gonna need Ben Simmons. And Ben Simmons is such

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Speaker 1: a polarizing figure in Philadelphia in general and specifically right now,

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Speaker 1: Like he goes and he has uh five turnovers and

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Speaker 1: he's free throws at the end of the game. Yet

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Speaker 1: again we're an issue and like, look, he's he can

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Speaker 1: influence the game in a lot of different ways. So

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Speaker 1: if he's not going to be productive offensively, then he

498
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Speaker 1: better be a lockdown defender and they better move him

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Speaker 1: on to Trey Young right quick. It's rare when you

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Speaker 1: go seven for seven from the field seventeen and ten

501
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: and your pillar read because oh yeah, you missed seven

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Speaker 1: free throws in a game that was decided by four points.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's pretty brutal. I'm a Ben Simmons guy.

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Speaker 1: I have a soft spot in my heart for him. Um,

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Speaker 1: I I don't know. I I tend to think that

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Speaker 1: Tobias Harris is the key to the series because like,

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Speaker 1: he was pretty good I would say pretty good in

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Speaker 1: game one, but he has to be great for them

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Speaker 1: to advance. He was great against Washington, no doubt. But

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Speaker 1: I just I don't love this matchup. Um, if DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hunter comes back, they're gonna be even better. The Hawks,

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Speaker 1: you know, Solomon Hill with the spots start because Hunter

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Speaker 1: was out. But Hunter was incredible against Um, which is

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Speaker 1: our Julius Randall last round. Yeah, you know, I like

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Speaker 1: the Hawks. The Hawks are young and and exciting and

516
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Speaker 1: on the come. But this should be the sixer series, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it should it should be their series, and

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, my evaluation, uh of Toby

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Speaker 1: in that first game was better than than yours, Like

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Speaker 1: I thought, he had a really good game. But you know,

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Speaker 1: after those first three guys, it falls off quick. So

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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, you've got Danny Green out there running

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Speaker 1: around trying to chase down Trey Young, who's just making

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Speaker 1: him look foolish. And you realize pretty quickly, Okay, Danny

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Speaker 1: Green is not your guy, and maybe you have to

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Speaker 1: swap him out of the lineup. But okay, so you know,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I mean, I like fible fine,

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Speaker 1: but how many minutes are you gonna play five ball?

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Speaker 1: And in a in a playoff series where you're gonna

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Speaker 1: shorten your bench. Anyway, You've got Doc out there playing

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Speaker 1: how many guys yesterday? I mean he had one, two, three, four, five,

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Speaker 1: six more so he played eleven dudes yesterday. Highly unusual.

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Speaker 1: Highly unusual. I will say, when the Clippers were down

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Speaker 1: two oh and the Sixers were rolling in the first round,

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Speaker 1: it felt liked Dr Rivers has to be smiling, you know,

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Speaker 1: he leaves the Clippers are struggling in the first round

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Speaker 1: and Sixers are rolling. The number one seed, they had

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Speaker 1: the easy half of the draw, and things flipped basically

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Speaker 1: in like a four day span. Um, and now it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, here we go again. You know, is is

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Speaker 1: there more panick about Doc or Bill? I'm sorry, Bill Simmons,

542
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Speaker 1: your boss, Ben Simmons. I think Doc's been fine. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: there's only so much that Doc can do with this group.

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Speaker 1: I think like the bench thing, you know, he he

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Speaker 1: runs out eleven guys total. I think part of that

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Speaker 1: was because they got down so quick and he just decided.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy who likes to play his bench. Altogether,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping, I'm hopeful that that was a rare occurrence

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Speaker 1: and that that won't happen again. But again, how thin

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Speaker 1: they are makes me nervous. But yeah, Ben Simmons is

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Speaker 1: a thing, man. It's He's always gonna be a thing

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. He's somebody who's hugely polarizing. I like him too,

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Speaker 1: just like you do. Uh. He's a guy who can

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Speaker 1: influence a game in so many different ways. But sometimes

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Speaker 1: you know, in addition to him being like an all

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Speaker 1: world defender and an excellent pastor and rebounder and he

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Speaker 1: can push and he and he plays great in transition,

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Speaker 1: those are always he that he can influence the game positively. Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: yesterday in Game one he has five turnovers and he

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Speaker 1: misses his critical free throws down the stretch. Those are

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Speaker 1: ways he influences the game negatively, and like you can't

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Speaker 1: get away from it. Yeah, it feels like this this

563
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Speaker 1: year was the year it fully tilted. There's nobody left

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Speaker 1: on the Ben Simmons bandwagon versus duel embiid Right, it's

565
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Speaker 1: a beads team. You know, he had thirty nine unbelievable

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Speaker 1: the free throw line he was. He's going to be

567
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Speaker 1: finished top four in the m v P voting, which

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Speaker 1: brings me to this, like, I don't want to be negative, negative, Jason,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to be positive, you know. You know, but

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Speaker 1: if they don't beat the Hawks this round, very difficult

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Speaker 1: for me to imagine them trotting back this team out

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Speaker 1: next year. And your trade chrip is Ben Simmons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, I think so too. I think you're right

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Speaker 1: if they don't make I mean, they absolutely should win

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Speaker 1: this series. Even with losing Game one, they absolutely should

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Speaker 1: win the series. And um, there have been for years

577
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Speaker 1: now conversations about, you know, if the Sixers don't make

578
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Speaker 1: it to the conference finals. You know, do you blew

579
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Speaker 1: up this that duo? And I think absolutely you're right that,

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Speaker 1: especially in this year where they have the number one seed,

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Speaker 1: they have home court advantage, they have as you in

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Speaker 1: the easy half of the draw. They don't have to

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Speaker 1: face the boxer the nuts in this round. Like this

584
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Speaker 1: should be there like a walk, a walk to the

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Speaker 1: conference finals. And if they don't walk there, if they

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Speaker 1: just squeak through, you've got to consider it. Uh. And

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00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: you know like there, look when Harden was up on

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Speaker 1: the block on the trading block, there were people in

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia and you absolutely cannot trade Ben Simmons for James Harden.

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00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Now think about that. I mean, it does not look

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Speaker 1: good in hindsight. Now hard enough. Of course, it injured

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00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: the hamstring. There's chatter that he may not play the

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Speaker 1: entire series. I don't want to get too deep into that.

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Speaker 1: But because you're Mr Philly and you know, you know

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Speaker 1: the Sixers as well as anybody spending all that time

596
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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, I have three hypothetical for fund Ben Simmons

597
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: trade ideas, and I would like you to entertain them.

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00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: I like it. So for first of all, the one

599
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: that has gotten juice, but I don't think it's likely

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Speaker 1: to happen. Is some sort of Ben Simmons plus whatever

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Speaker 1: else in exchange for Damian Lillard andbviously you know Portland.

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00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Probably Portland fans will be like, no way, no, I'm

603
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: not interested in that. That's that's scarbage. Damian Lillard plus

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Speaker 1: Joel Embiid would be unbelievable in Philadelphia. Correct. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: would love that. I would do that in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the something else is. I don't

607
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Speaker 1: really care. I mean, like, the Sixers have have future picks.

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00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: You know that. They're not like the Clippers who have

609
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: given up all their future picks, so you know they

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Speaker 1: but how much I don't know how much you want

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Speaker 1: to give up for the younger You're giving up the

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Speaker 1: younger player and some picks for a guy who I mean,

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Speaker 1: Damian Lillard probably what the middle of his prime, the

614
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: back end of his prime? I don't He's only like

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Speaker 1: thirty two, He's got some time left. Um. But the

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Speaker 1: Sixers are built to win, now, are they not? That

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Speaker 1: mean the first seed in the East, they absolutely are. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Look again, I like Ben Simmons. I think he's one

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Speaker 1: of the best players in the league. He is absolutely

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Speaker 1: a star in this league. I don't know that he's

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Speaker 1: superstar level like Dames. I would do that in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 1: I think on the flip side, if you're the if

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Speaker 1: you're the Blazers, I can't imagine why they would do that. Well.

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Speaker 1: I guess the thought process would be, they're so bad

625
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: defensively at guard because Dame can't guard anybody. And C. J.

626
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: McCollum is kind of on the small end as a

627
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: shooting guard and he's a score. But the floor opens

628
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: up more you put Ben Simmons at and again this

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Speaker 1: is a little bit radical, but I would play him

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Speaker 1: in the Draymond Green five spot. That's what I would

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Speaker 1: do for Ben Simmons as a point center, if you will,

632
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: and then you build around the shooting with Simons and McCollum.

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00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: We'll see what a sear little is next year. But

634
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you're really rebuilding about a younger core Um.

635
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: Dame's too old to be losing in the first round

636
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: against an inferior team that's injured like the Nuggets Um, So,

637
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: so that one may seem a little radical. This one

638
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: probably also will come off as what the hell is

639
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: McIntyre thinking, let's say the Clippers lose to the Jazz.

640
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: By the way, who do you like in that series?

641
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: Probably the Jazz, I mean the Clippers. The Clippers are

642
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: hard to pin down. And like somebody said to me

643
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: the other day, like, do you think that the Jazz

644
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: were actually the best team in the West, And I

645
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if they're the best team,

646
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: but they're the most consistent. I mean, like they're just

647
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: a team that they know what they do. They know

648
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: everybody has a role, they stick to it, like there's

649
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: not a lot of me. Me me, Well, I think

650
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: the Clippers are more talented on paper, but you know,

651
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: it depends on what night. You're like, which Clippers team

652
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: you're getting one on a given night, So you know,

653
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm with you and all that, But I guess my

654
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: thing is that the Clippers lose to the Jazz, and um,

655
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, Utah's home court advantage. They're a much better

656
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: balanced team than Dallas is Dallas of course, you know,

657
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: Hardaway and um Porzingis in Game seven were like one

658
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: h fourteen from three. Listen, Joe Ingalls ain't doing that,

659
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, the Serbian plumber Bugdanovitch, he's not doing that.

660
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: Assuming Conley's healthy, healthy and the hamstring to it, I

661
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: think they take down the Clippers. So just cou I

662
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: want to come back to that team. If I am

663
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: the Clippers, do I call the Sixers and say, we

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Speaker 1: have Paul George, we need to get him out of here.

665
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: Would you give us Ben Simmons for Paul George. Wow,

666
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: that's a controversial on, um, because we're talking about two

667
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: basically top if teen, top seventeen players in the league,

668
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: depending on what you think of Simmons. Right, we're doing

669
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: all this hypothetically without like looking at the salary, without

670
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: looking at the cap. You fill in with cap filler

671
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: that that's what the guys get paid five in a

672
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: year four in the Clippers front office. Alright, So so

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna do this hypothetically. Um, if I'm just

674
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: thinking about a one to one, I mean, like, look,

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00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Paul George is a better offensive player than Ben Simmons,

676
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: and they're both good defensive players. Now, Paul George is

677
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: the same defensive player that he was to three years ago.

678
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: No he's not. Ben Simmons is a better defender than

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Speaker 1: he is. But on a team where you need more scoring, clearly,

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Speaker 1: i'd consider that. I'd entertain it. I mean you also

681
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Speaker 1: have the factor in that, like you know, one guy's

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Speaker 1: on the up swing and the other guys on the

683
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Speaker 1: down swing. So I wonder, like I wonder if more

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Speaker 1: you would go for that. The other one is probably

685
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna be disliked as well, because who doesn't like to

686
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: poop on um? You know, trade ideas. But the Boston

687
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: Celtics are going through some sort of upheaval with the

688
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: Danny Ainge out, Brad Stevens kicked upstairs, don't know who

689
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: the head coach is gonna be, and there is some chatterman,

690
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: can this team win with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum.

691
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: I think it's too early to break them up. Jalen

692
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: Brown ascending hasn't been an All Star yet. I think

693
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Speaker 1: he was one of like the last guys that just

694
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: missed it. But any thoughts of a Ben Simmons Jalen

695
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: Brown swap um. I don't know that it helps us

696
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: the Celtics as much, but it at least makes it

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00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: clear Tatums the offensive guy. We're building around him. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Brown to the Sixers? Does that interest you at all.

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Speaker 1: I remember a couple of years ago people like saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, would you would you swap out Simmons for Tatum,

701
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Speaker 1: and like people going now and now, of course you

702
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Speaker 1: would do that in a heartbeat. Oh yeah, Jalen Brown. No,

703
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: I think that that's like a step a little too far.

704
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: I'd still rather have been Simmons. I think his up

705
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: and side is still there. And also again he can't

706
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: influence the game and so many different look. I really

707
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: like Jalen Brown a lot, but I think if you

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Speaker 1: if your goal in this league is to add as

709
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Speaker 1: many stars slash superstars as you as you can, you

710
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: already have to with Embid and Simmons. And I don't

711
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Speaker 1: know that Jalen Brown is that level. He's fantatastic, He's fantastic.

712
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: I just I don't know that he's Ben Simmons. Yeah

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Speaker 1: you do. You would have to be buying into the

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Speaker 1: idea that Jalen Brown can become a top twelve player

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Speaker 1: in the league. And he is ascending. I mean, the

716
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: guy has been very, very good. This is best year ever. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody's talked about the Wizards as a in

718
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: a Brad Beal swap down. I just I don't know

719
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: how you would team Russell Westbrook and Ben Simmons together, Scott.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's insanity. Scott Brooks, of course is team

721
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, and if he's kept, I can't imagine them,

722
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, doing anything to get Ben Simmons in Westbrook.

723
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: That would just be awful offensively. But here's the problem

724
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: when you're building, go ahead, go ahead, joh No, I

725
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: was gonna say that I would, I would do any

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00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: kind of Simmons for beal swap. But I think it's

727
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: also remarkable, and I don't say this with any alice.

728
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Speaker 1: He's a really nice guy. Scott Brooks is still the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Wizards. How is that possible? Some

730
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: brazing because he liked Westbrook and they're trying to make

731
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: Westbrook happy. I guess Fox Sports Radio has the best

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Speaker 1: You know, John, it's weird how in the modern NBA

736
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: we're building mostly around wings, right Lebron Kauai and Paul

737
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: George Luca Donte just like a point forward, um, you

738
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: know Tatum again a wing like these are the primary players.

739
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: Yet Denver and Philly seemed to be trying to build

740
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Speaker 1: around Yokich and embeat where are you on building around

741
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Speaker 1: a center versus a wing? And of course then then

742
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: there's like do you build around the back court, which

743
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: we've seen Portland try for many many years? Um, John

744
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: Morant building something in Memphis. Pretty nice. And of course

745
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: we'll get to Tray Young at a second. Yeah, I

746
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: think you play the hand you're delt right. I mean,

747
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: like if you and look building around a center, if

748
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: we're talking about it in like traditional terms, you'd be like, oh,

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00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: that's a little strange, like you're the thing around saying

750
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: like Rudy Gobert, you'd be, um, not, that's not gonna

751
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: really work. Those two guys are modern centers who can

752
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: shoot and pass and do everything you could possibly ask

753
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: them to do on the floor. You'd be thrilled. I

754
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: asked any I think you could ask all thirty well

755
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: twenty eight other teams, hey, you know, would you want

756
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: to build around Yokich or and be they'd all say yes,

757
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: that'd be great, thank you very much. So. But those

758
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: two are also, like to use the overused cliche unicorns, right,

759
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like, there's two of those guys in the world,

760
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: and like, man, you'd be so thrilled to have them.

761
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean unicorn. I feel like we have to toss

762
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: it out given Porzingis was a unicorn three years ago

763
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: and now he's a donkey, right, I mean, goodness, gracious, yeah, seriously,

764
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: he's out of there. I just I do wonder how

765
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: challenging it is to build around a beat because he's

766
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: not back to the basket guy like they were in

767
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: the nineties. Um, and he plays like all over you know,

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00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: Seth Curry was a great upgrade. You know, I still

769
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: remember people fighting me like, oh, Josh richards din't know,

770
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: it's a great steal from the heat. Like I mean,

771
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: Josh Richardson probably on his way out of Dallas, right,

772
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: like he's about to be in his third demon three

773
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: years I think. Yeah, And you know what I was

774
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: wrong about Josh Richardson. I actually really did like him,

775
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: and I thought of him as sort of a Jimmy

776
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: Butler starter kit and he just like he wasn't that guy.

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00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: He couldn't he couldn't take that much responsibility and clearly

778
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: they needed more shooting around uh and being and to

779
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: a greater extent Simmons and so with Curry and Danny Green.

780
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: And you know, like now you're putting Toby in that

781
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: role that he played for Doc when he was playing

782
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: with the Clippers together, Like you see, it opens things

783
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: up on the floor. But but you're right, like you

784
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: need shooting around those guys, and like if you don't

785
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: have plenty of it, then all of a sudden you

786
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: run into problems. And like even after they unplugged Horford

787
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: and they got rid of Richardson and they brought in

788
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: more shooting, still not enough. It it it brings us back

789
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: to what we were talking about earlier there then extremely

790
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: it's but it's weird because you know, Tobias Harris as

791
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: your number three guy seems like a huge win. Like

792
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: if you look at all the teams in the league

793
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: and you match up their third best player, the Sixers

794
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: have one of the best third best players in the league,

795
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: if not maybe the best. Right, Yeah, look there, their

796
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: first three guys are fantastic, and the rest of the

797
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: team was fantastic. I mean, look at the Lakers. Their

798
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: third best player was Dennis Shrewder and no fan wants

799
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: him back on the Lakers. Like the third best player

800
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: on the Clippers is Reggie Jackson. Marcus Moore's like no

801
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: Toyas Harris, one of the best, third, third, best players

802
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: in the league. I think there's a strong case he is.

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00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: I do want to wrap up with with Trey Young. Um,

804
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: this was a guy who you know, basically came in

805
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: the league small. He can make a bunch of bomb shots,

806
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: but can he win anything. Lost in the first round

807
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: in the n c A tournament, like losing a lot

808
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, And something's happened to him in these playoffs

809
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: because he looks to me like he has made the

810
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: jump to light speed and it is just an incredible

811
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Speaker 1: talent who you know, looks like he could wreck this

812
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: league for the next five years. I really think that

813
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: the Hawks. Everybody was saying that they're like the mini Warriors,

814
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: you know, building around Steph and I didn't totally see

815
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: it with Trey Young until these last like three weeks

816
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: and you're like, Wow, they've got something here. Yeah, that

817
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: might be the warrior component might be a step too

818
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: far for me, but for sure I'll say that, like

819
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I certainly didn't expect Trey Young

820
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: to be this good this quick. And he's in addition

821
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Speaker 1: to just like racking defenses and you can throw pretty

822
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: much on anybody out him. And that's why I'm interested

823
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: to see what happens if the Sixers and like everybody

824
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: expects to put Simmons on him for a considerable amount,

825
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: like how how that works? But absent that, I mean,

826
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: he's almost defender proof. I mean, he's really really good offensively.

827
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: Now defensively he gives back most of that's he's a

828
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: huge liability defensively, and like you put put him through

829
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: the pick and roll machine like to get the matchups

830
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: you want. You're thrilled to do it. But you're right.

831
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: The Hawks are onto something really fun and exciting here.

832
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: And whether or not they get through this series, and

833
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: I still suspect that they won't, the you know, the

834
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: future is bright for them. Yeah, this guy's shooting um

835
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: thirty four percent from deep in the playoffs. I know

836
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound incredible, but we're talking about twenty two

837
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Speaker 1: year old who's maybe six one, maybe a buck eight,

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Speaker 1: and he's unguardable. I mean, the Nicks were top I

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Speaker 1: think top six defense in the league. Sixers are certainly

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Speaker 1: top ten. Why aren't the Sixers exploiting him on the

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Speaker 1: defensive end and making work? Yeah, that's yet another thing

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Speaker 1: that they're going to have to do the to make

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Speaker 1: an adjustment on, right, I mean, clearly this is all

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Speaker 1: on Dock. Uh No, it's not all on Dock. I

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Speaker 1: mean I think that there are obvious adjustments to be

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Speaker 1: made here, and once they make those adjustments, if they've

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Speaker 1: still fallen down on the job, then you know, things

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Speaker 1: have to be addressed in the off season, like we

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Speaker 1: talked about. But for right now, I you know, on

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Speaker 1: our def con scale here, I think a moderate amount

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Speaker 1: of concern is warranted. But I'm not completely panicked yet.

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Speaker 1: Um your thoughts on building around Trey Young versus Luca

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Speaker 1: don Che. It is pretty shocking to me that in

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Speaker 1: a you know, I think top five were Trey, Dion, Ratan,

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Speaker 1: and Luca all went. I think Bagley was in there

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Speaker 1: and someone else. Um that Luca is the one without

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Speaker 1: a playoff series win yet and Tray and eighton have

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Speaker 1: advanced to the second round. Now you could obviously say, hey,

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Speaker 1: come on, Luca's face, the Clippers, who were one of

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Speaker 1: the favorites to win the title both years. Still interesting

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Speaker 1: to be the trade youngs here. Yeah, and when that

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Speaker 1: trade went down to everybody crushed the Hawks. How could

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Speaker 1: you pass up an opportunity to draft Luca? And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, in a vacuum, might still take Luca. But

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Speaker 1: quite clearly that trade was a great trade for the

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Speaker 1: Hawks because they got extra components out of that, and

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Speaker 1: they got a guy who's just gangbusters offensively. I mean

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Speaker 1: he said he's an absolute killer, and I really love

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Speaker 1: about him, aside from the fact that he can just

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Speaker 1: score in so many different ways and he's so much

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Speaker 1: fun to watch offensively. Man, didn't you love the attitude

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Speaker 1: that he took into New York like that, just like,

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Speaker 1: give me all your hate. I'm your new villain. I

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Speaker 1: will take it all and and just it makes me stronger.

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Speaker 1: I love dudes like that. It's like Kwame Brown saying

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Speaker 1: I want all the smoke, um Kwame Brown versus you know,

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Speaker 1: Matt Barnes, Stephen Jackson, Steven Asmith, who else did did

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Speaker 1: he come after you? Yet? Did Kwame Brown taking I

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Speaker 1: do not either that you know, I was you know,

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Speaker 1: my I was listening to it. My wife kind of

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Speaker 1: heard it and she was like, what, what's that? Does

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Speaker 1: not sound good? I was like, this does not sound

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Speaker 1: good at all. This yeah, he sounded anyways, Hey, John Gonzalez,

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Speaker 1: we love your work at the Ringer and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you ever jump back into the political realm, and

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00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: if people remember having you, we had you on in October,

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Speaker 1: um and I think we went through a little of

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Speaker 1: your political history back in Texas if I'm correct. Um,

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Speaker 1: if you ever get back into that, let me know

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Speaker 1: I will be a hype man for you because I'm

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Speaker 1: a believer and we're gonna We're going to run you

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Speaker 1: and I'll help you with your campaign. No, no, I

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Speaker 1: hate politics, no way. All right, John, thanks a lot man.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the Hawks winning over the Sixers. Let's let's reverse that.

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Speaker 1: But thanks for having all right, buddy. Later