1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast. It comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: we're talking about this week's full episode subject, Jimmy Buffett. 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: We are rewinding back to our Scott Wiland episode, dipping 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: back into the thirty six chambers, and we get into 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: your voicemails, text, dms, and as always, a whole lot 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: of rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: history is the history that gets buried. Disgrace Land is 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, disc goes, 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: Let's get into it, all right? I am stoked to 21 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: be talking to you guys here in Jimmy Buffett Week. 22 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Part of what drew me in so deeply to Jimmy's 23 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: story was when I was researching, I came across this 24 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: great film from nineteen seventy three called Tarpin Okay. It's 25 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: a movie about Key West Tarpin fishermen, many of whom 26 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: are Jimmy Buffett's friends. Jimmy actually scored the film. And 27 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: now this is long before Jimmy Buffett had anything resembling 28 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: a hit. It's just a bunch of dudes in Key West, 29 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: Florida and early seventies fishing for this very specific type 30 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: of fish in a very specific type of way. And 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: the characters range from the young wild literary crowd that 32 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett was running with, Tom mcguain, Jim Harrison, Richard 33 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: Brodigan to old school Florida men of the sea. All 34 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: of them are badass in their own way. I know, 35 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: just you know, at face value, you're thinking Tarpin Fisherman. 36 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, badass in this movie. It looks 37 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: and it sounds incredible, And somehow this little documentary made 38 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: by Orson Wells's cinematographer by the way, God by the 39 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: name of Christian o'dasso and his brother in law Guie 40 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: de la Valdene. If I'm saying that correctly, this little 41 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: documentary about Fisherman is super rock and roll, It's unlikely 42 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: I know that a movie named after a fish, that 43 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: a movie about Fisherman with music by Jimmy Buffett is 44 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: rock and roll. But I'm telling you it is. You 45 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: just got to see it. Tarpin t r po N. 46 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: I found it on Apple. I think you can probably 47 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: find it on YouTube. Check that out. I'm not just 48 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: telling you this to tell you about a cool movie. 49 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this because this whole thing i'd be 50 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: thinking about rock and roll movies in general, meaning what 51 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: movies are rock and roll? 52 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: Not? 53 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: What are the best music documentaries? Not, what are the 54 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: best music biopics? What are the best rock and roll movies? 55 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I did a little research and Consequence ran an article 56 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen that they've since updated a couple 57 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: of times. They say the following about the subject of 58 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: rock and roll movies. They say, I'd argue that it's 59 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: easier to identify a rock and roll movie than define one. 60 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Looking through this list, there are docs and bio picks, 61 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: concert films and musicals, movies with flickmaking and generation defining soundtracks, 62 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: and films that don't seem to have very much to 63 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: do with music at all, and yet they all feel 64 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: like they should be categorized under the old devil horns. 65 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: In some way, they boast a common ethos, carry a 66 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: certain swagger, and feel rebellious in their own, often unlikely ways. 67 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Tarpin has swagger, okay, and then some I can relate 68 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: to consequence here. I know what they mean when they say, 69 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: you know a rock and roll movie when you see it. 70 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they said that directly, but that's essentially 71 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: what they said. It's true, you know they're I don't 72 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: want to burn my suggestions here, or nor do I 73 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: want to burn their list. They have a great list 74 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: of fifty rock and roll movies. I'm going to give 75 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: you the top ten because it's it's interesting. Number ten. 76 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Wayne's World, Now, great movie. Just showed this movie to 77 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: my kids last weekend, to an eleven year old in 78 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: a seven year old. And if you have kids that 79 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: age and you're into music, and you're worried about what 80 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: your kids can consume and handle don't worry about Wayne's world. 81 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: The sex stuff is going to fly right their heads. 82 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: Number nine Dazed and Confused. Now, this one, for me 83 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: really hits the definition of a rock and roll movie. 84 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily rock and roll or about rock and roll, 85 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: but it has rock and roll spirit at its core. 86 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: It's not, of course, it's not a documentary, it's not 87 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: about a band. Just Dazed and Confused. It's about as 88 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: rock and roll as it gets. Blues Brothers also nails 89 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: my definition of what a rock and roll movie is fantastic, 90 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: even though I guess you could call Blues Brothers a musical, 91 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: it's got rebellion at its core. These guys are about 92 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: as anti social as it gets fantastic. So I love 93 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: Blues Brothers here at eight. Number seven High Fidelity also 94 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: one of these movies I think a high fidelity guys 95 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: kind of off topic and it's one of those pieces 96 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: of media that I'm grateful I was alive at the 97 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: age I was when it came out, both the book 98 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: and the film. Just incredible storytelling, fantastic and yes, a 99 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: great rock roll movie. Number six They've got a concert 100 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: film here. Number six stop making sense by talking heads now, 101 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have this on my 102 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: list of top ten, if I had a list of 103 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: top ten, I don't even know. Is it my favorite 104 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: concert film? I don't know. No, it's not. Is it 105 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: top ten? Probably? I don't know, Man, I don't know. 106 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave this one here. Number five, Okay, 107 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: The Graduate, I get it. I totally get it. Consequence 108 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: points out that this nineteen sixty seven film is one 109 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: of the earliest examples of a movie using pop songs 110 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: as its musical score, which is true. However, later on, 111 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: Zeth and I are going to give you our recommendations 112 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: for the greatest rock and roll movies, and I'm gonna 113 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: give you another movie from back in the day that 114 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: actually did what Consequence is saying The Graduate did so well, 115 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: that actually did it better right around the same time, 116 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: a little later, but right around the same time. At 117 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: least they did it in more of a rock and 118 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: roll way with this film that I'm gonna recommend. And 119 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: again that'll be an exclusive section of this episode for 120 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: Disgrace and All Access members. Seth and my recommendations on 121 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: great rock and roll movies. Number four from Consequence, Rocky 122 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: Horror Picture Show. Now I've never seen it, not my thing, 123 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: not a theater kid. No shade to anyone who has 124 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: seen it or is into this. I have fond memories 125 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: of being a teenager and marveling at the rocky horror 126 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: kids lined up outside the Harvard Square Movie Theater Brattle 127 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Street Theater? Is that the ones that what it was called? 128 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: On Saturday nights? Saturdays or Fridays. I think it was Saturdays. 129 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: Waiting to see this movie. They showed it at midnight 130 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: every weekend. Pretty awesome. I get it. This movie was 131 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: a phenomenon. I totally get it. Number three, Almost Famous, 132 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: This one I wouldn't have on my list. Definitely wouldn't 133 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: have top ten. It's a little too on the nose. Okay, 134 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: it's just I mean, I get why it's here. But 135 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: if I was going to include a Cameron Crowe movie 136 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: that was rock and roll indicative of a rock and 137 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: roll film, I would include not almost Famous. I would 138 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: include Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Now, I know Cameron 139 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: cur didn't make that movie, but it's based on he 140 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: wrote the screenplay. Or it's either he wrote the screenplay 141 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: or it's based on an article he wrote for Playboy, 142 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember, but either way, the soul of that 143 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: movie is Cameron Crowe. Number two. This is Spinal Tap. 144 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Totally get it could make a case for number one 145 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: for this movie, even though it's a mockumentary. It's just 146 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: it stands alone and it's glory. It's so good. I 147 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: have not seen the new Spinal Tap yet. I'm waiting 148 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: to show my eleven year old and possibly my seven 149 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: year old the original before I see the sequel, and 150 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: I really hope the sequel doesn't suck. Let me know 151 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: if you guys have seen I know some of you 152 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: how but I want to hear from others who have 153 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: number one. And this is where Consequence goes off the 154 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: rail with this list. Number one. Purple Rain, come on. 155 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Ah, this is tough. This is 156 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: really tough because Purple Rain is not a good movie, 157 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: never mind a good rock and roll movie. I love 158 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: Purple Rain, the album, I love Prince and I love 159 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: I Guess. If I'm scrolling the channels and Purple Rain 160 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: comes on, I'll stop for a couple of minutes and 161 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: watch it because it's fun to laugh at, but not 162 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: a good film anyways. Consequence missed a few others, one 163 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: in particular that is so perfect, so undeniably rock and roll, 164 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: that I couldn't believe it wasn't on this list, at 165 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: least not in the top ten. It's got everything, it's 166 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: good blood, it's got myths, it's got rebellion, it's pure rock, 167 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: pure rock and roll, I should say, pure rock and roll. 168 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: And Zeth and I are going to break down in 169 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: the exclusive section of this episode coming up, what that 170 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: movie is, why it's so great, along with some more 171 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: of our rock and roll film recommendations. But first, back 172 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: to Jimmy Buffett. If you listened to the g ME 173 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: Buffett episode that we just dropped in your feed, you 174 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: will have heard a bit about Jimmy and his publicist 175 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: being violently attacked by a man I called God's own Badass, 176 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: Beauford Pusser, who is one of the twentieth century America's 177 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: most legendary characters. Now I won't repeat myself, but Beauford 178 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: Pusser inspired numerous movies and television shows, most notably the 179 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: film Walking Tall Beeuford was a violent, vengeful fueled man 180 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: in real life whose goal was to avenge the murder 181 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: of his wife. Well, we recently learned, like a couple 182 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: days ago, as we're putting this episode together, actually, as 183 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: the episode was already put together and shipped, we learned 184 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: new evidence. We learned that new evidence this is how 185 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: they're terming it. We learned that new evidence suggests that 186 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: old Buford here was actually the one who killed his wife, 187 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: which is fucking wild when you think about it. This 188 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: dude built a myth around himself. He built himself into 189 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: legendary status as the guy who avenged his wife's death 190 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: and got to their killers, and it turns out he 191 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: was the killer. Okay, I'm still wrapping my head around this. Unbelievable, unbelievable. 192 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: There's a special section of hell for people like this. 193 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: It's like, how fucked up do you have to be 194 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: to carry on this lifelong charade and cash in on 195 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: it over and over and over again up until recently. 196 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: Unbelievable Anyway, my point, I guess one of my points 197 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: here is that this is just one more example of 198 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: just how many fascinating stories, specifically mythbusting stories exist in 199 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: relation to the artists that we talk about here every week. 200 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: It's too much, oftentimes too much to fit into our 201 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: thirty minute episodes. Quite literally, there is excess excess, and 202 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: we've got a pretty smart, fun way of dealing with 203 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: this issue, turning a problem into a solution. Here that's 204 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: going to help us bring you, guys, something new and 205 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: exciting a couple more times per month. And we'll have 206 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: more on this soon. I'm excited for you to hear 207 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: about it that's coming up when next couple weeks we'll 208 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: be announcing that. 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I 234 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: want to do something a little different here. 235 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: Right now. 236 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: Let's take a little cruise through the music headlines of 237 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: the day. Right now, If I go to Billboard dot com, 238 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: the headline is bad Bunny, Edgar Borera and Casrel and 239 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: Paco lead twenty twenty five Latin Grammy nominations full list. 240 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't care about that one bit. No shade to 241 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: Latin music. It's just not a big, bad bunny or 242 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: whatever fan. No other headline. Cardi B reveals she's expecting 243 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: fourth child. That doesn't interest me all that much. Over 244 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: on Pitchfork Pitchfork dot Com, the headline says, why do 245 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: I keep getting mad at Coachella? What's wrong with me? Okay? 246 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: I can kind of get with that. I understand that, 247 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: And then there's something here about Nico Case getting better 248 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: with age, and I can get with that too. But 249 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: E's Jarvis winning the Polaris Music Prize in twenty twenty five. 250 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm sad to say I don't know who Eas Jarvis is. 251 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: I probably should. There are some reviews of artists by 252 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: the names of Mark Williams, Lewis Bronto, and another thing 253 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: called Who's this guy? Mister ed Sheering heard of him? 254 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: Not interested? Rollingstone dot Com For cardib her life is 255 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: the album roll out again? Not that interesting. I'm not 256 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: that interested in Cardi B. Justin Bieber score seven figure 257 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: Coachella payday. He's fully in the driver's sept Good for 258 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: mister Bieber. I'm happy he's getting paid looks like he 259 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: could put a couple of shekels in the bank. But overall, 260 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, this stuff, it just does not you know, 261 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: I look, I look every day. I don't I don't 262 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: actually go to the webs, but I do have Twitter notifications, 263 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: ex notifications, excuse me, that are almost entirely music based, 264 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: and little that is coming out of modern day music 265 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: is captivating me or holding my attention in a sense 266 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: that you guys are like me, and you feel that 267 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: today's music culture does not reflect the things that you 268 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: care about, And I'm just grateful. I'm grateful knowing that 269 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: I am not alone, and I want you guys to 270 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: know that you're not alone either. Obviously, this is why 271 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: disgrace that exists. In part, it's because music history is 272 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: far more entertaining and interesting than modern music. Music history 273 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,119 Speaker 1: is dangerous, Modern music is safe. Music history is exciting. 274 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: Modern music bores the hell out of me for the 275 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: most part. And the music industry and Chasm and all 276 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: the rest they want to sanitize music history. They want 277 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: to keep it boring. This isn't an old guy thing either. 278 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: If you think it is, you know, whatever, that's your prerogative. 279 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: I could I just I'm just here to say things 280 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: are not as interesting as they were then. I was there, 281 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: so were most of you. We saw it happen, and 282 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: we knew then that what we were consuming. Yeah it 283 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: was Kurt Courtney, name it all, you know, Tupac, whoever 284 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: it was, right, we knew then that, yeah, things were good, 285 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: things were great. But twenty years prior to that, things 286 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: were also great. Thirty years prior to that, things were 287 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: also fucking unbelievably cool. I've always felt this way. This 288 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: is not new, this is not an old guy thing. 289 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: Even back when I was fifteen years old and reading 290 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: Rolling Stone, I felt that way. Even back when I 291 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: was fifteen years old and I was reading about the 292 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: Rolling Stones, I felt this way. Okay, music history has 293 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: always compelled me, and it still does, and I know 294 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: it does so for countless Disgrace and the listeners as well, 295 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: who are in the chat over with me and Patreon 296 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: every week, obsessing over these stories and more on a 297 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: daily basis pretty much which artist should we cover next 298 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: in Disgraceland. Which rock and roll locations have we yet 299 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: to visit in person but desperately want to. What are 300 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: our weekend music listening plans, what musical events shaped us 301 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: as kids, and most important, when exactly is the new 302 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: season of Slow Horse is coming. Okay, that's not the 303 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: most important, but you get my point. These are the 304 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: things that we're talking about over in the Patreon chat, 305 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: and you should join us over there because you will 306 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: find a like minded community of people who know what's 307 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: up when it comes to music and music history. If 308 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: you want access to that, if you want access to 309 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: Zeth and I on the regular, if you want no 310 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: ads in your Disgraceland episodes, go to disgracelandpod dot com 311 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: slash membership. Come a member of our little club for 312 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: just five bucks a month before prices go up in 313 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: a couple weeks. All right, This week, as you know, 314 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: we've got a new episode on Jimmy Buffett in the 315 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: rewind slot. We're hitting our episode on Scott Wiland from 316 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 1: Stone Temple Pilots coming up next week, we're dipping back 317 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: into the Wu Tang story. Question of the week though, 318 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride this rock and roll movie topic because 319 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: I find it to be endlessly interesting. Lots of options here, 320 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: So question of the week, what are your favorite rock 321 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: and roll movies? I? Love this topic. I want to 322 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: keep discussing it with you, guys, So get at me 323 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. 324 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: Let me know what your favorite rock and roll movies 325 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: are and why you think they're rock and roll? All right, 326 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: and if you want to hear mine and Zest's answers 327 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: to this question, our rock and Roll Cinema recommendations jump 328 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: into the exclusive section of this episode coming up shortly, 329 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: but for now, I'm in the phone booth. It's the 330 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone with you, guys. 331 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: And last week's question of the Week, relevant to our 332 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett episode was which musician or band did you 333 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: once despise that you now kind of love? Seven seven 334 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: five texts in Hey Jake, on the topic of artists 335 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: we used to hate but now can't get enough of. 336 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: I can't pinpoint a single artist, however, I used to 337 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: hate country music, but I find myself more off from 338 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: the not listening to country music these days. It started 339 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: with Dwight Yoakam and it just grew from there. Rock 340 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: a rolla listen, guys, get your country recommendations in for 341 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: the seven seventy five Let's turn him on or her. 342 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: I can't tell if this is a guy or a gal. 343 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: Let's turn him on to some great country music. Dwight 344 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: Yoakam's awesome, but there's a ton out there, especially the 345 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: classic honky tonk stuff in the fifties and the sixties. 346 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: Johnny Paycheck, George Jones, Merel Haggart, that's my Steeves, Moe Bandy. 347 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: Check that out, all right, Nathan text in from the 348 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: five to one two. I like your content and look 349 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: forward to more. Thank you for keeping it real deep 350 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: and just a bit dark. You got it, Nathan, We're 351 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: never gonna stop. Let's check out this voicemail from the 352 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 1: five oh five. The five oh five is calling us, 353 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: I believe real late at night or real early in 354 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: the morning. I can't tell. And the five oh five 355 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: takes a minute to get into his story, so just 356 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: bear with him. You're gonna want to hear the end. 357 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: It's worth it. 358 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: Heydrick, this is my all san fight, and I guess. 359 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm a friend of a friend of a mother of 360 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: a son of a son of a sailor. Like I said, 361 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: it was a friend. It's just a cop. But anyway, 362 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: he told me about this cop. And I think it 363 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: was Alabama that pulled over this old, old beat up car, 364 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: you know, like broken tail, like bald tires, kind of 365 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: a mess of a car. 366 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: And this cop pulls this older lady over and asks 367 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: for the driver's license and she hands it to it 368 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: and the last name is Buffett, and the cop says, 369 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: excuse me, ma'am, but it wouldn't mean any relation to 370 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 4: Jimmy Buffet, would you, And she's like, yeah, I'm his mother. 371 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 4: He's like, really, do you have Jimmy's numbering your phone? 372 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 4: And she's like, yeah, of course, but could you give 373 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 4: him a call? And she's like yeah, sure. 374 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: She calls up Jimmy Buffett, hands the phone to the 375 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: cop and the cop says, Jimmy, you know you make 376 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: enough money. You need to really take care of your mother. 377 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: You need to get her a new car. Because this 378 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: cut through all the problems with their moms with this 379 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: mom's card. So I thought it was pretty funny. Anyway, 380 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: Thanks for all you do. 381 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 4: We love you. 382 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: Six one seven nine six six six three eight. If 383 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: you guys want to get at me, voicemail and text 384 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: with anything question of the week or otherwise anything related 385 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland anything related to great music. You can send 386 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: me a text, you can leave me a voicemail. You 387 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: can also email me disgracelamdpod at gmail dot com. Tammy 388 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: r Odell writes, Hey, Jake and Zeth, I'm a longtime 389 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: listener in first time contributor. I love podcasts, and I 390 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: appreciate all the research you and your team and your 391 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: dad puts into these shows. I too, am a true 392 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: generation X Vinyl playing cassette, loving recording from radio. Give 393 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: me any kind of music except bluegrass kind of gal. Additionally, 394 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm a Tennessee native. I'm still here, so of course 395 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: I zeroed in when you mentioned another past Tennessee resident, 396 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: Bewford Pusser in the latest episode featuring Jimmy Buffer love 397 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: his music. Also, while while Pusser lived in West Tennessee, 398 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: I hail from Middle Tennessee, the nine three one, as 399 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: close to East Tennessee as you can get. I'm about 400 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: a four and a half ride away from McNairy County. However, 401 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: I had relatives that lived very close to Addamsville, so 402 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: we heard these stories quite often. I grew up hearing 403 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: all the Buford Pusser adventures watching the movies, and, like 404 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: many Tennessee citizens, felt as if he was a small 405 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: town hero for cleaning up McNairy County as he did. 406 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Imagine my surprise when a scant few weeks ago I 407 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: spot a news story online regarding a Tennessee Bureau of 408 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: Investigation's press conference that had just taken place in the 409 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: subject the results of the investigation into the death of 410 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: Pauline Pusser Puser can narona fucking pronounce this Buford's wife, 411 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: who had been killed in an ambush in nineteen sixty seven. 412 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: Who was responsible? Asked I? Well, per the Tennessee Bureau 413 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: of Investigation, it was Beauford Pusser himself. I dove headfirst 414 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: in a row reading all about this. Yes, per the TBI, 415 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: the ambush didn't happen or definitely did not happen the 416 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: way Beuford described it, And after going back through case 417 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: files and exhuming Beuford's wife's body for another examination, the 418 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: investigators determined there was enough evidence that there was no 419 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: question Beauford Pusser killed his wife that day. The reactions 420 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: I have read online have been all over the place. 421 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: It's crazy time, folks. I'm including a link to the 422 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: press conference. I know this story wouldn't fit on Disgrace Lamb, 423 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: but in a slight way, it might fit on Hollywood Land. 424 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: The day he died, per rumor, he had agreed to 425 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: play himself in the second Walking Tall movie. It is 426 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: a truly fascinating tale. Thanks guys for the many hours 427 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: of listening you have provided me, Tammy. Thank you for 428 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: the great email, and thank you for summarizing this incredible 429 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: story that's really developed. It developed over the last couple 430 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: of weeks relevant to our Jimmy Buffett episode. Here just 431 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm flabbergasted. I you know, like this is we need 432 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: a new movie. Now we another view for Fuser movie 433 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: Pluser whatever the fuck the guy's name is pronounced. Has 434 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: we need another one of these movies? It tells the 435 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: real story, shit, Tammy, Maybe you can write it all 436 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: right six one seven nine oh six six six three 437 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: eight You guys want to hook me up voicemail and text. 438 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: I'll be back after this. Hollywood lost a legend this 439 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 1: week with the passing of Robert Redford. Zeth Lundy has 440 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: a great tribute to Sundance kid Over in the Hollywood 441 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: Rap Party episode this week, check that out. If you 442 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: haven't already, here's a little taste. 443 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 5: My personal history with Robert Edford in his movies is 444 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 5: that they represented for me an introduction to more sophisticated cinema, 445 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 5: that big step from the kinds of things I watch 446 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: as a kid, which primarily was like The Muppet Show 447 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 5: NonStop into a more adult world. And in particular The Sting, 448 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 5: the George roy Hill movie from nineteen seventy three co 449 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 5: starring Paul Newman, that played a huge role in my 450 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: life when it came to that sort of leveling up 451 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 5: as to the sorts of thing as I was watching. 452 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 5: This was another one of my grandmother's favorite movies. I've 453 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 5: talked about this before, and you know, I don't think 454 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: I give her enough credit when it comes to cementing 455 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 5: my love of cinema from a really early age. I'm 456 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 5: realizing through recording these rep party episodes that a lot 457 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 5: of these major milestones in my personal movie viewing history 458 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 5: were nights when I watched movies with my grandmother. But anyways, 459 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 5: that's a whole other thing I need to explore. 460 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: All right, if you want to hear Zeth and I 461 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: talking about some movie res that are rock and roll 462 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: movie res that's coming right up in the exclusive section 463 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: of this after party. If you're not yet an All 464 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: Access member and can't access that conversation, do not sweat it. 465 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: We'll just chill here and wait for you to head 466 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: over to disgrace lampod dot com slash all Access and 467 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: sign up for just five bucks a month before those 468 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: prices go up in a couple of weeks. As you'll 469 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: hear in this short clip coming up, Zeth and I 470 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: come at these topics from different angles, but the chemulative 471 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: list that we've put together here about undeniably great rock 472 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: and roll movies surprise even me. One movie in particular, 473 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: I think changed the way that we all watch movies. 474 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: And here's a short clip, you know, the conversation between 475 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: Zeth and I that you may be missing out on 476 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 1: by not being an All Access member. My second recommendation 477 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: for rock and roll movie mean Streets, also from nineteen 478 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: seventy three. 479 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 5: I almost included this. 480 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, I thought you were and I also thought, 481 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, and he'll be smart enough to know I'm 482 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: gonna include this here on to. 483 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 5: I think I subconsciously I thought that, yeah. 484 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: Okay, here's why a lot of people correctly attribute The 485 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: Graduate as the film that changed the game for music 486 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: in movies in cinema Graduates nineteen sixty nine, sixty eight, 487 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: something like that. So it's it's before Mean Streets. And 488 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: what the Graduate did was it used pop music as score. 489 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: It used pop music in a way that hadn't been 490 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: used really in film before that. It used pop music 491 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: to run the emotion through the writing and the acting 492 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: to the listener in the same way that's scoring doesn't. 493 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: And it's hard one another one of those things. It's 494 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: hard to think about now to think of a time 495 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: before that in movies where where songs weren't used to 496 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: make you feel something, where it was just score, unless 497 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about musicals, but those are almost a different medium. 498 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: So the Graduate did it first. But it's like saying, 499 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, I Turner did rock and roll first before Elvis. 500 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: Mean Streets is more like the Elvis version of what 501 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: the Graduate was doing. Elvis is a bad analogy because 502 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: Mean Streets is so grittier and more rocky. I know, 503 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: that's my point. Yeah, you know what I mean. And 504 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: it just like I don't care, man, you see Dniro 505 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: walking into that bar, jumping jack flash and it's it's 506 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: it's like I'd never seen anything like that in my life. 507 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: It still gives me chills. It gives me chills even 508 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: just thinking about it. All right, guys, while those of 509 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: you sign up for Disgrace hand all access and or 510 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: eagerly await our imminent conversation on rock and roll movies, 511 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit this bottle of five Hour Energy here 512 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: and gear up for hopefully two weeks in a row 513 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: of successfully delivering my sixty second Sports Rant and under 514 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: thirty Seconds. The sixty second Sports Rant and Under thirty 515 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: Seconds is sponsored by five Hour Energy. Five Hour Energy 516 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: Shots bring tasty caffeine and seventeen flavors. Head to your 517 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: local retailer www dot five hour Energy dot com or 518 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: Amazon to order yours today. Matt, give me the ticker? Guys, 519 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: what is college football? I want to become a fan, 520 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: but I grew up in New England, where college football 521 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: means something totally different than it does down here in 522 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: the South or out west. The Red Sox are doomed 523 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: for an early playoff exit. I fear the Patriots are 524 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: barely even a professional football team at this point. And yeah, 525 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: I know they won last weekend, but they gave up 526 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: twenty seven points to the Miami freaking Dolphins and missed 527 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: two extra points. So I need something else in sports 528 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: to get excited about. Is it college football? Do I 529 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: root for the Florida Gators? The Fighting Irish? What even 530 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: is a college football division? Why are their college football 531 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: team rankings? Who ranks the teams? Doesn't this seem a 532 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: bit arbitrary? Why is it a win loss record good enough? 533 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: There are bowl games and playoffs and a championship and 534 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: I have no idea what is happening on Saturday. Somebody 535 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: get Pat McFee to call me and explain this whole thing, 536 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: because I can't take only having this Patriots team to 537 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: root for for the rest of fall in early winter, Matt, 538 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: how did I do fifty six seconds? Jake so got 539 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: under a minute but not under the thirty seconds? Well, 540 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: I guess I just I gotta dig in. I gotta 541 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: do better next week. That was a sports bran sponsored 542 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: by five Hour Energy. Enjoy a variety of bowl flavors 543 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: with as much caffeine as a twelve hons premium cup 544 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: of coffee, but zero sugar and zero crash. Give your 545 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: caffeine a flavor upgrade with five hour energy shots. Get 546 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 1: yours in stores and online at www dot five our 547 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: energy dot com or Amazon Today. Great rock and Roll 548 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: recommendations coming up for all Access members right now. In 549 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: on that conversation and on the movies that rewrote the 550 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: rules of storytelling. Join us, not next week, not when 551 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: the prices go up, Join us now. Welcome back, Welcome back, 552 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: welcome back. I'm about to take off, guys, real quick. 553 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: If you listen to this episode, which you did because 554 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: you're here about twenty thirty minutes into it. We talked 555 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: about the Rolling Stones, we talked about talking Heads, we 556 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: talked about Prince. We have episodes on all of those 557 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: artists in our archive of now two hundred and fifty episodes. 558 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: That's right. We hit two hundred and fifty full episodes 559 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: of Disgrace Slam this week with our Jimmy Buffett story. 560 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: Get in there, guys. There's a lot for you to 561 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: listen to, and if you have questions, hit me up 562 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: and let me know if you want. You want some 563 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: help navigating around to find your favorite artists and artists 564 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: you might have from a different genre of music. Yeah, 565 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: I was talking to this guy yesterday. I was filming 566 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: this thing and as a promo thing, and I was 567 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: talking to the director who was shooting it, and he 568 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: was going on and on about how much he loved Disgraceland, 569 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: and he was telling me about specific episodes. He's listened 570 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: to the writings, like specific pieces of writing that we've done, 571 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: and he clearly had listened a lot to a lot 572 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: of stuff. And he was like, man, I got it, 573 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, like just uh, why 574 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: don't you do a Grateful Dead episode? Or he said 575 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: something like that, like, my man, we have two. So 576 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: my point is you may think you're well versed in 577 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: what's in the Disgraceland archive, but we have so much. 578 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: So if you have a question about an artist, hit 579 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: me up six one seven, nine oh six sixty sixty 580 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: three eight, voicemail, text at Disgraceland pod on the socials. 581 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: Easier to get in touch with me over in the 582 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: Patreon chat or text or voicemail. But I'm around and 583 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: easy to get at and I can point you in 584 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: the right direction. All right, let's recap Shallow We number one. 585 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: This week's full episode on Jimmy Buffett is available for 586 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: you to listen to right now, number two, we are 587 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: rewinding with Scott Wiland from the Stone Temple pilots in 588 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: the rewind slot coming up right after this episode. Then 589 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: next week we dip back into the Wu Tang thirty 590 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: six Chambers, number four on Hollywood Land. Right now, Johnny 591 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: Depp five six one seven, nine oh six six sixty 592 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: three eight. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark 593 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting, keep 594 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: giving us something to talk about. I appreciate hearing from 595 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: you every single week. Number six, Do not forget this goes. 596 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: This isn't just content, it's community, a community of the obsessed. 597 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: And no one cares about music, books, records in the 598 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. 599 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: And well that's a disgrace, all right. On February fourteenth, 600 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, Jimmy Buffett released the song Margaritaville and 601 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: nothing would be the same in Key West, Florida ever again. 602 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: And here's what America was listening to on that day 603 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: according to the Billboard Charts, Number one, Torn between two 604 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: Lovers Mary McGregor last week one peak position one weeks 605 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: on Chart thirteen Number two New Kidden Down Eagles last 606 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: week four peak position two weeks on charts. Weeks nine, 607 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: Number three Number Blinded by the light Man for Man's 608 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: earth Band last week six peak positions three weeks weeks 609 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: on charts, thirteen weeks. 610 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 6: Number number four car Rose Royce last week shoes peak 611 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 6: position one weeks on charts seventeen Number five Ever. 612 00:34:49,239 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: Love Stars quit talking and start mixing.