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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's Almost Famous podcast. We have a very special episode

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Speaker 2: today some stars of the show, some stars of the

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Speaker 2: last episode. When I say stars of the show, I

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Speaker 2: mean the show in general, and then also the last episode.

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Speaker 2: Jason and Molly, welcome to podcast.

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Speaker 3: That's really nice of you to call us stars. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't think we are.

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Speaker 4: And it's also it's also the first time they asked

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Speaker 4: us to be on the show instead of you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so like.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been on the show, I bet in five years,

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Speaker 2: six years, well other than like a wet that wedding,

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Speaker 2: but I yeah, I don't. I. I actually was just

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Speaker 2: doing a podcast the other day with a former alumni

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Speaker 2: and they said, are you ever bummed that you don't

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Speaker 2: get asked to go on the show more? And I said,

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Speaker 2: there's like small times in my life I'm like, I'd

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Speaker 2: love to go back and do that, and then most

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Speaker 2: of the time I'm like, I don't even remember that

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Speaker 2: being an option.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: I think the only reason we got back is because

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Speaker 4: Jason erlik right, one of the producers. Yeah, hey is

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Speaker 4: back in the back in the heads or one of

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Speaker 4: the head seats, and he's the only one that knows us.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jason Erlick was the head producer on a

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Speaker 2: show that about ten people watched called Ben and Lauren

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Speaker 2: Happily ever After after.

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Speaker 3: My Oh my god, he was your producer.

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Speaker 2: Head producer. That's that was his first round, like go

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Speaker 2: back into the Bachelor world once he came back from

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Speaker 2: being gone for so long.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: But he's a good dude.

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Speaker 2: I really uh Okay, So you were obviously on this

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Speaker 2: last episode, but let's catch up with the two of you,

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Speaker 2: because we really didn't get to during this episode. The

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Speaker 2: two of you are obviously living in Seattle, which makes

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Speaker 2: sense on why you were on this show specifically, but life, Like,

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Speaker 2: are you big Bachelor fans still? Is this still a

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Speaker 2: part of your life?

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Speaker 3: Why are you?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I mean we I Jason never watches the show? Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: like not at all. He has removed himself from that world.

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Speaker 3: I have not watched the show. It was probably I

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Speaker 3: went ten years without seeing it, and then we went

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Speaker 3: to the Golden Wedding and I talked with Joey at

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Speaker 3: the wedding. He's like, you've got to give this season

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Speaker 3: a chance. So then I watched his season and I

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Speaker 3: like fell in love with the show again, honestly, like

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Speaker 3: taking a ten year hiatus and coming back, and his

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Speaker 3: was a great comeback season because it was amazing. So

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Speaker 3: now I watched his season and I've always been watching.

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Speaker 4: This season time out what I love my wife, but

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Speaker 4: she's lying, what like the show? And she's only watching

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Speaker 4: it now because Riley our daughters. Riley's into it and

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Speaker 4: that's mommy daughter time.

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Speaker 5: And Riley might come down here now, But that's why

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Speaker 5: you're watching it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Like the other night, maybe two weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want to watch it. We'll

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Speaker 3: like save it for another day. I mean it's a

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Speaker 3: lot of it's a big time to me, and Riley's like, no,

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Speaker 3: we have to watch. I need to see who gets

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Speaker 4: Well, you know the best part about watching the show,

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Speaker 4: like when you're on it, is they give you that

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Speaker 4: non commercial version. Yeah, so cut it down from two

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Speaker 4: hours so like one thirty Yeah, which you get thirty

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Speaker 4: minutes of your life back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Trust me, it's been about eight years of that and

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Speaker 2: I don't know what my life would look like if

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Speaker 2: it wasn't for that. Yeah, now, okay, that actually brings

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Speaker 2: up something I'm curious about, and I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's not many This is going to sound awful towards

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Speaker 2: you too, I don't mean it that way. There's not

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Speaker 2: many people from the show that have kids now able

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Speaker 2: to watch it like that are getting into that age.

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Speaker 2: So I've never asked this question. I'm actually very curious.

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Speaker 2: What is it like now having a daughter who's watching this,

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Speaker 2: who's intrigued by it, and then I have a thousand

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it even goes beyond that. There's a college age kid.

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Speaker 4: They actually watched it with us last night and watched

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Speaker 4: the during COVID, watched our season and saw how double.

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Speaker 3: Were back here he had been. He had all of

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Speaker 3: his friends over every night during COVID and they would

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Speaker 3: watch our season down and I would hide in our

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Speaker 3: I'm glad we got that done. Riley has zero desire

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Speaker 4: She was like, oh my god, she's also at that

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, So would you if say she did come

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Speaker 2: say hey, I really want to watch your season, would

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Speaker 5: Would you even allow her to watch it teenager?

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe when she's a little bit older. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like I wanted to be sure now that she's getting

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Speaker 3: all of that, but that she has a desire to

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Speaker 4: She would when her when she's old enough, with her

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Speaker 4: teenage friends, they'll all want to Like Ted didn't want

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Speaker 3: We'll have to let her watch it eventually.

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Speaker 2: It feels like to me from an now, satays like

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Speaker 5: My wife, like she season.

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Speaker 2: She hasn't probably ever watched a season of the I

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen Jason season before when he was

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Speaker 3: on the Bacheorette. I've never seen it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she would never. There's more. My wife is very sensitive,

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Speaker 3: Need to say yeah, yeah totally, and.

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Speaker 2: So like for me, it would be a very nerve

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Speaker 3: I was most panished is perfect. When I was watching it.

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Speaker 3: I was most panicked because like I was like, what

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Speaker 3: if these boys him and his friends like someone better

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Speaker 3: But that's not how it went at all. They were like,

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Speaker 3: you're the goat, You're amazing.

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Speaker 4: Some people like like people that we met that are teenagers.

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Speaker 4: They call her the goat and that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: But no, you take it in, accept it, just accept it,

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Speaker 2: feel it. I mean, how many times in our life

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Speaker 2: now do we actually get to feel really good about ourselves,

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Speaker 2: Like if that's that's something to Michael.

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Speaker 5: Jordan, Tom Brady and.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the kids are watching the show now, but

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Speaker 2: obviously during this episode we see the two of you

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Speaker 2: how many people know this. You were to the really

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Speaker 2: or talking about the show. Yeah, so how much of

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Speaker 2: was this your full time job to be, you know,

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Speaker 4: But we well, initially talk, sure, she lets me talk sometimes,

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Speaker 4: so well, initially somebody from the local radio station said, hey,

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Speaker 4: They're like, hey, the future of radio is this podcast.

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Speaker 4: We're going to host a podcast for you. You guys

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Speaker 4: can do whatever you want. And it was once a

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Speaker 3: Recapped the show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, similar, right, But it was just the two of

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Speaker 3: Was competing radio station. Meeting your podcast was with one station,

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Speaker 3: and then my job was with iHeart. I was so

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Speaker 4: And we met when we filmed our season of The

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Speaker 4: Bachelor as a fake radio show date with Bender hosting

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Speaker 5: Well, where was it twenty nine to ten?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the show that you see on last night

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Speaker 2: It's not a real show, right noe.

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Speaker 5: All the contestants thought it was real.

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Speaker 3: They did, but Bender and Jewbile are on different radio shows.

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Speaker 2: It'd actually been a very interesting concept if you could

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Speaker 2: people want to listen. It's kind of like, what is

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Speaker 2: it Delilah? You know Delilah like local that night? Oh really, all.

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Speaker 5: These competition back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Well, I kind of loved Delilah. Her voice is very soothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's very nice. Are you still in radio.

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Speaker 3: Molly, No, I stopped during COVID, stopped doing radio. I

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Speaker 3: loved it while I did it, but I was getting

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Speaker 3: a little burnt out, like four o'clock in the morning

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Speaker 3: getting up every day with kids. It's tricky.

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Speaker 5: We had needed her to sell houses with them.

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Speaker 3: Now I work with Jason. We work together in real estate,

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Speaker 2: How is that going?

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Speaker 3: It actually really well? Honestly, Jason's been doing it for

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Speaker 3: eleven years. Yeah, I've been doing it for about three

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: We work from separate locations so that we can have

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Speaker 3: it's been great. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We were both good at different things, like I handle

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Speaker 4: No, it's it's more more of like real estate's just

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Speaker 2: You can come here and do that. You can see

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Speaker 5: What actually is really funny. You remember how he called.

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Speaker 4: So he calls initially and he's like, so, I hear

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Speaker 5: Like he kind of set me up, and of course

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Speaker 3: It's been interesting. Like when we got invited to the

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Speaker 5: There that are half my age.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just even at that wedding, I felt

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Speaker 3: It was great seeing people like we've known you. It's

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It's a big deal. Okay, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I haven't been on the show, as

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Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of people I don't know producer wise,

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Speaker 2: I said, Jason. They go, yeah, Mesnik, And You're like,

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Speaker 2: I'm damn old, and I said, I bet Jason fifteen

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Speaker 2: I was already feeling a little awkward at this thing.

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Speaker 2: I already feel like I don't belong now. The producers

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Speaker 2: They have no clue who I am. So I'll never

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Speaker 2: forget that. I also will never forget Jason, that you

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Speaker 2: and I really appreciated that too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh yeah, Well we took shots, right, and.

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Speaker 2: We took shots together. Was it kind of loose me up?

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Speaker 2: And the two of you came. I believe it was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I stopped in for that.

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Speaker 2: So you have had a big piece in my journey. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: including getting the two of us confused, which I take

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Speaker 2: as a compliment because you're a very good looking man, Jason.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: It's like looking in the mirror.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Jason and Molly for coming on talking a

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Speaker 2: they're coming back to talk to us and even more

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Speaker 2: of gen season of the bachelore episodes. Stay tuned for

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Speaker 2: this episode breakdown with Jason and Molly.

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