Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: What's Up Everybody, It's unpayvill the Team Supreme. For this
Speaker 2: classic episode of Quest Love Supreme, we're speaking with the incredible,
Speaker 2: the One, the Only, George Clinton, the parliament Funkadelic. Last
Speaker 2: week we reissued part one of this conversation. Now in
Speaker 2: part two, did a deep dive and asked these sorts
Speaker 2: of rappit ble fan questions that make QLs week. This
Speaker 2: was taped in mid twenty twenty during those early days
Speaker 2: of the pandemic, so Team Supreme was still learning how to.
Speaker 3: Get along virtually and in general.
Speaker 2: But the quality of the conversation is amazing. Make sure
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Speaker 2: Blackman cameo and the late George Brown cool Gag. QoS
Speaker 2: loves bringing you that phone and it gets no better
Speaker 2: than George Clinton.
Speaker 4: You mentioned Boosie.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to ask you since we had him
Speaker 5: on the show and he told some awesome stories about you.
Speaker 4: But one of the stories he mentioned.
Speaker 5: Was something involved y'all creative process in the was it
Speaker 5: the Bermuda triangle? He said that you used to do that,
Speaker 5: but he never knew why that place and to like
Speaker 5: be creative, can you please?
Speaker 6: You went fishing in the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know that. We was the only one
Speaker 7: after the Mothership connection, you know.
Speaker 8: You know the whole thing was we went to Bemani
Speaker 8: and to hang out and the number one Bemani Road
Speaker 8: and everything I saw all of the fish advertisement. Mister
Speaker 8: Wiggerdworm was a lure that was collecting information for the
Speaker 8: Motivooty affair. Wow, he didn't know what we were talking
Speaker 8: what I was doing. You know, I was just gathering
Speaker 8: the topics, you know, from that topic and.
Speaker 7: It all came together pretty good.
Speaker 8: You know, we was on a roll.
Speaker 6: You had no fear of drowning and the Bermuda Triangle
Speaker 6: at all.
Speaker 8: Oh, I mean, it's all I need to fear. That
Speaker 8: gent everywhere we wanted. He tells you that we saw spaceship.
Speaker 8: He tells you something happened to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he told us about this.
Speaker 8: Now that's for real. I mean we drove up there
Speaker 8: from Detroit after finishing the album, got there with and
Speaker 8: went by Gary's house.
Speaker 7: It was like ten o'clock in the morning. Now we
Speaker 7: just got there.
Speaker 8: We saw a light that looked like laser, you know,
Speaker 8: or light, but it was a straight being and I said,
Speaker 8: you see that? He said, what was it?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: Five minutes later, we get off the highway be going
Speaker 8: down the country road. The same light sounded like two
Speaker 8: blocks in front of us, right through the trees. That
Speaker 8: hit the ground and sparked like like you know, electricity
Speaker 8: on the right side, then on the left side the highway,
Speaker 8: and the third time it hit the car right on
Speaker 8: the driver's side where I was sitting. It beat it
Speaker 8: up like you know, mercury out of the thermometer, you know, it.
Speaker 6: Beat it like oil and water, you know.
Speaker 8: That consistency, and rolled right off the car. What the hell?
Speaker 7: And at that time that what's.
Speaker 8: Weird about it that we didn't realize this for years?
Speaker 8: The street lights was going off. Now I remember the
Speaker 8: first time we saw this light. The weird thing was
Speaker 8: that you saw light in daylight right right, and you
Speaker 8: can see you can see a street of light in daylight.
Speaker 8: That was the weird to stay. But when this when
Speaker 8: it happened, when we hit the car, the street light
Speaker 8: was dimming, A car had its lights on the back
Speaker 8: of us. I looked behind us and by the time
Speaker 8: we turn around, the street was completely dark. Our head
Speaker 8: lights was getting dark. We had to drive like five blocks.
Speaker 8: What's going on? We got five blocks and you can
Speaker 8: look back to your left you can see street lights
Speaker 8: on again. And as we pull up it but by
Speaker 8: this time it's nighttime.
Speaker 7: We don't realize this. I don't. We don't talk about it.
Speaker 7: I realized this for years.
Speaker 8: My daughter said, what yelling like, y'all seen the ghosts?
Speaker 8: She said, give me, kids, I'm getting ready to go
Speaker 8: to bed now. That should have let us, you know,
Speaker 8: you know, let us know that ten o'clock in.
Speaker 7: The morning, she's going to bed at seven o'clock at night.
Speaker 8: We did not realize that for years that that had
Speaker 8: taken place like that.
Speaker 4: That time he last and.
Speaker 8: I called boots of them? What time did we get there?
Speaker 8: When we was coming from the student and he remembered.
Speaker 8: And then when I told her what the barbarella? What
Speaker 8: was she doing? She's going to mean that same thing,
Speaker 8: I said. We never thought about that for years.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Trendy chemical substances.
Speaker 8: What people about it. We had just come across the border.
Speaker 8: We had just come across the border into Canada, so
Speaker 8: we didn't have no trending chemical substance.
Speaker 3: You have Canadian trendy chemical.
Speaker 7: Had Yeah.
Speaker 9: Really believe that we are the only beings of this
Speaker 9: level in this entire galaxy.
Speaker 2: No, but the fact that George Clinton's all aliens means
Speaker 2: everything is perfectly correct in the world.
Speaker 3: I I believe everything he's saying. He thought I see
Speaker 3: them before he did. He saw them.
Speaker 9: They're there. Let me ask you, so, what is what
Speaker 9: drew you to? I mean, you know, next to sun Ray,
Speaker 9: I don't know any other black figure in music that
Speaker 9: deals with oh, with the exception earth Fire, that deals
Speaker 9: with afro futurism. And you know, I'll say that, And
Speaker 9: I'm glad you brought it. And Hendrix, Yes, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 9: Jimmy Andrew and the and the thing is is that
Speaker 9: I'm glad you you brought up the UFO story because
Speaker 9: it's like, even in preparing for this interview, I know
Speaker 9: that with you with like at the time in seventy six,
Speaker 9: seventy seven Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Star Wars,
Speaker 9: I tried watching Star Wars. I'm famous for falling asleep
Speaker 9: during Star Wars for the I'm sorry, it's just a
Speaker 9: film that you know, dog, I've yet. I've seen Star Wars,
Speaker 9: but I've not gotten through one.
Speaker 3: Concurrent, like that's of everything.
Speaker 9: But how are you able to get into because I
Speaker 9: think Richard Prye once brought up the fact that, you know,
Speaker 9: a lot of black people aren't into science fiction because
Speaker 9: we rarely see ours, like we're not painted in the
Speaker 9: future and a lot of this production. But you were
Speaker 9: our vision of an Afro futurist society.
Speaker 6: So what what brought that on?
Speaker 9: Like what made you not just want to make people
Speaker 9: shake their ass and dance like most people, Like most
Speaker 9: people live in the present, I feel black music, whereas
Speaker 9: you're talking about I think, I think Star Trek.
Speaker 8: I think Star Trek. I was addicted to that by
Speaker 8: the time I saw Star Wars. That was like a
Speaker 8: cowboy and western movie that was like for kids, but
Speaker 8: I liked it.
Speaker 7: It was for kids, but already was into the mother Ship.
Speaker 8: Theories and the sci fire that that Star Wars had
Speaker 8: more stories. So I was always into that. And when
Speaker 8: it came time to make a record, I want to
Speaker 8: do a funk opera. When that's when we started thinking about.
Speaker 8: First we did Chocolate City, and one time I saw
Speaker 8: put black places where they weren't ordinarily seen. That was
Speaker 8: that was the cool thing to do. So the next one,
Speaker 8: I say, put them in out of space. You didn't
Speaker 8: see no black people, nobody but Aurora, see was the
Speaker 8: only one you saw out there.
Speaker 7: But what about you see this dude out there on
Speaker 7: the spaceship riding.
Speaker 8: There like it's a Cadillac. That's all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 8: a place to be, you know. Mothership connection, that worked,
Speaker 8: you know, So then the Clones is the weirdest one.
Speaker 8: Now you want the story.
Speaker 7: Clones was the second one after Mothership.
Speaker 8: I got on a train. I got on a train
Speaker 8: in Dallas, Texas. There was a book on this train.
Speaker 8: This is the first day this train is running at
Speaker 8: Dallas between terminals, the very first day. The book is
Speaker 8: on the on the seat. Nobody's on the plane train
Speaker 8: for me. I picked up the book and Steve Swanson
Speaker 8: has docked on spaceships over fifteen hundred times, blah blah blah,
Speaker 8: but he could never get used to these trains at
Speaker 8: the Dallas Airport. So I'm thinking this got something to
Speaker 8: do with this train, and there, you know, so I
Speaker 8: tak it. I'm reading it. I gets off the train
Speaker 8: in Portland, Oregon. Every book stand that saw had the
Speaker 8: book and that it was called The Clones. I thought
Speaker 8: it was the way I went to the library, and
Speaker 8: that's about what his cloned. And they told me it
Speaker 8: was protected by the freedom of information. Now, when they
Speaker 8: told me that, my whole you know, I got nosy
Speaker 8: for really now I almost to know, and that's what
Speaker 8: the whole Doctor Funkenstein. They gave me a book called
Speaker 8: Dr Moreau. Okay, Doctor Moreau. That was the closest they
Speaker 8: can give to me without you know, going on. And
Speaker 8: they said I could get a book called The Charot
Speaker 8: of the Gods. Already got that book. And when I
Speaker 8: read that book, that was all my albums from then on.
Speaker 8: Clones uh funking telekey and motivated, all of them was
Speaker 8: going in that same direction of all those theories. You know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I assure you that Smokey Robinson was not doing that.
Speaker 8: What he did, know, what he used to do. He
Speaker 8: used to take kids books and do all the nurses
Speaker 8: on the nurse around the rap songs from them sound right.
Speaker 7: It was just it was another version of that.
Speaker 9: Though, speaking of which I know, I know that you
Speaker 9: are a massive fan of sly Stone. I have two
Speaker 9: questions about Sli and I've been you know, as of
Speaker 9: this recording happyeople later birthday. You just celebrated your seventy
Speaker 9: ninth birthday, and usually around your birthday time, I'll spend
Speaker 9: a month while I'll do nothing but dive into the
Speaker 9: p funkology of your work, so especially Quarantining.
Speaker 6: I've probably watched at.
Speaker 9: Least at least ten of the concerts between seventy six
Speaker 9: and the mid eighties, like at least four times each.
Speaker 9: I have a question though, about the p Funk Earth
Speaker 9: tour now knowing what role Slide plays in your life
Speaker 9: as a mentor. You you've definitely been on record about
Speaker 9: how witty his songwriting was, and his and his arrangements
Speaker 9: and whatnot. But you know, at that time during the
Speaker 9: p Funk Earth tour, you know, the torch has definitely
Speaker 9: been sort of passed and you're clearly now the alpha.
Speaker 6: Or the leader.
Speaker 9: And you know, in nineteen seventy six, I think that's
Speaker 9: when his heard you Miss Me while I'm Back album
Speaker 9: was out, which you know, right creatively.
Speaker 7: That he didn't do that. He didn't do that, and
Speaker 7: somebody else did that.
Speaker 6: I get it, I get it. I get it with
Speaker 6: a wink.
Speaker 9: But I want to know, how do you think that
Speaker 9: was psychologically?
Speaker 6: Because the thing is is that usually.
Speaker 9: When you're when you're when you are a maverick of
Speaker 9: that level that he will, usually you're supposed to have
Speaker 9: a really good history's showing that you can have a
Speaker 9: good eight to fifteen year run where you're clearly the leader,
Speaker 9: like jay Z has had a fifteen to.
Speaker 6: Twenty year run Prince had.
Speaker 9: You know, I'm gonna obsess some Prince fans as far
Speaker 9: as the genius level like he's had that Street Slye. Yeah, guy,
Speaker 9: I'll give him from a whole new thing to about
Speaker 9: small talk. So maybe seven eight years, but clearly, in
Speaker 9: nineteen seventy six, here's the person that should be a
Speaker 9: maverick and he's kind of like in depth to you,
Speaker 9: like he's in an opening position, and I know that
Speaker 9: that was your hero. Do you think that psychologically that
Speaker 9: messed with him a little bit? That it should have
Speaker 9: been in reverse, like you were the new kid on
Speaker 9: the block and he should have been the person that
Speaker 9: should have been the episode.
Speaker 8: It may have, it may have, but at that time
Speaker 8: we were you know, we were doing other kind of
Speaker 8: drugs into that at that time, and you didn't. You didn't,
Speaker 8: you didn't have to contemplate like that.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: It was less trending for sure, you know. And it
Speaker 8: was hard to actually, you know. And he was undoubtedly
Speaker 8: that motherfucker. All the ship that he had done, he
Speaker 8: may have felt a little bit. He'd tell you, he'd
Speaker 8: tell you, in a minute, you headline this time, let
Speaker 8: me headline, now you headline next week. You know it's
Speaker 8: not on the stage, but just in socializing when you
Speaker 8: have to be the start, he'd asked you, and let
Speaker 8: me be the start right here.
Speaker 7: Really, you know, you don't know, No, he's that.
Speaker 8: Kind of real everybody know that you're doing letting me
Speaker 8: show time here and let me look good.
Speaker 7: And you know it's some funny ship.
Speaker 8: Because you have to say, yeah, you can, but don't
Speaker 8: do me harsh, because he can do your ass harsh
Speaker 8: when he wanted. Yeah, so you have to say I'm gonna.
Speaker 7: Be starting next week and he left.
Speaker 8: I love motherfucker to know how to get his But
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 9: First of all, I just want to clarify because the
Speaker 9: thing is, this is about the fourth time you mentioned drugs.
Speaker 9: But I almost feel like for you it's more of
Speaker 9: an enhancer. No, but I don't see it in that.
Speaker 9: David Roughing sort of doubt like.
Speaker 8: Was it was.
Speaker 4: I was about the right.
Speaker 6: I think for you it's more like a creative juice
Speaker 6: thing than it was. Or either that or you just
Speaker 6: hit it well.
Speaker 7: I hit it well, man. I thought that I was
Speaker 7: too too, but I hit it well.
Speaker 8: But I was going through because I wasn't doing what
Speaker 8: I wanted to be doing.
Speaker 7: So I mean, I couldn't get out of that.
Speaker 8: I was satisfied with my own self, but it really
Speaker 8: wasn't when you look back at it. It took a
Speaker 8: long time for me to just say no, let me
Speaker 8: come up and do a medicaid pro Let me get
Speaker 8: that and do That's hard to do when you get
Speaker 8: caught up in fighting for the rights and make music
Speaker 8: at the same.
Speaker 7: Time, you can lose your energy.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You can get ciphers.
Speaker 9: So but let me ask I'm not advocating. I'm not advocating,
Speaker 9: but let me ask you if you were let's say
Speaker 9: half clear. Okay, let's say that whatever whatever you've done
Speaker 9: between the stuff with Timothy Leary all the way to
Speaker 9: you know, I saw the Chelsea Clinton Chelsea Clinton crack
Speaker 9: pipe story.
Speaker 8: Damn you you've been watching a lot of it, Dude,
Speaker 8: your whole life hold on Clinton's make.
Speaker 6: Especially.
Speaker 9: Okay, you tell the Chelsea Clinton crack pipe story?
Speaker 8: Clear, clear that up? Man?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, Okay, tell the story?
Speaker 7: Well which one did you?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 9: Basically, Chelsea Clinton goes to a first p funk show
Speaker 9: and you know, his last name is Clinton, her last
Speaker 9: name is Clinton, and they're like, hey, guys, take a
Speaker 9: photo together. And George was sort of on the spot
Speaker 9: and had a pipe in his hand, and he decided, yo, perfect,
Speaker 9: it's not going to look cool with a crack pipe
Speaker 9: next to the first daughter. So he hit it, but
Speaker 9: he had to hide it by fisting the crack pipe,
Speaker 9: which was burning his hand.
Speaker 6: And that photos in People magazine.
Speaker 3: Wow, they know?
Speaker 5: Did the Clintons know the real story behind?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: I just mean I just didn't know if you had
Speaker 5: actually interacted with them, No, they didn't know.
Speaker 6: They didn't know.
Speaker 8: Then her and holler Field gave me a birthday cake
Speaker 8: on the stage.
Speaker 10: Well wow, and while we own drugs that you actually
Speaker 10: doing the bump on the the munch colar color the
Speaker 10: placebo versus placebo syndrome, where like, uh.
Speaker 6: Is that you?
Speaker 3: It looked it looked pretty convincing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it looked pretty convinced. No, I didn't do that, Okay,
Speaker 8: I was. I was.
Speaker 7: I was pantomiming, though, Okay, don't.
Speaker 9: I don't even know if you know the first time
Speaker 9: I ever smelled secondhand smoke?
Speaker 4: What kind of.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the sea word, Oh yeah, that's your state. Yeah
Speaker 6: it was.
Speaker 4: It's like a skunky type thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I walked into George's room one second and I took
Speaker 9: with the second hand smoke, and I thought I was
Speaker 9: going to die.
Speaker 6: I ran to everyone like.
Speaker 3: So how did you get clean?
Speaker 6: George?
Speaker 3: Like, how how did you? Because we looking at you now,
Speaker 3: I mean you look you yes, yeah, how did you?
Speaker 3: How did you get clean? What was that process?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 7: I got a good wife first of all, that was
Speaker 7: a good help.
Speaker 8: But after you know, I got sick one time, and
Speaker 8: it don't take me one time to get sick. Yeah,
Speaker 8: cause I thought I was superman, I guess, but I
Speaker 8: got sick one time and then I realized, damn you
Speaker 8: you're seventy two years old. You seventy two seventy one rate,
Speaker 8: and I said, no, you got you got a lot
Speaker 8: of work to do. You get I came out. I
Speaker 8: never looked if what you realize you have enough time
Speaker 8: to rest. Been in the hospital a couple of days,
Speaker 8: and you realize you have enough time and the rest.
Speaker 8: It's gonna take a long time to get this ship
Speaker 8: straighten out. The legal business. That's what got me going.
Speaker 8: Once I started getting on the mission of trying to
Speaker 8: get my legal business, I started thinking about the airs
Speaker 8: and who I'm gonna leave, what I'm gonna leave. I
Speaker 8: got to get these copyrights straight So from then on
Speaker 8: that took up all my energy. And once I did that,
Speaker 8: I started feeling good about myself. And then when I
Speaker 8: started making records again, like I said, shake the Gate
Speaker 8: and I wrote the book, all of those was part
Speaker 8: of my plan to be on this movement until I
Speaker 8: get the copyrights back, And that started feeling like nineteen
Speaker 8: seventy five again. When I started that. You know, when
Speaker 8: I Midigate Fraud, I was really really proud of that album.
Speaker 10: Noord it was yeah, just the fact that it was
Speaker 10: we got a new album from you, and it sounded current,
Speaker 10: but it didn't sound like you were pandering, like trying
Speaker 10: to do it kids, trying to catch up.
Speaker 3: There it was, but it was still you.
Speaker 8: That was the hard thing, the balance that being up
Speaker 8: to you know today and what we were about. But
Speaker 8: I had my grandkids in the group, so they know,
Speaker 8: they know what's going on today, they know what was
Speaker 8: going on with us. So they helped me bridge the
Speaker 8: things and I can put the concepts in it, and
Speaker 8: they helped me bridge it with their friends, you know,
Speaker 8: and we got such a crew now they was killing
Speaker 8: before the pandemic thing happened. We just playing with the
Speaker 8: Chili Peppers. Ninety thousand people in Australia and it was
Speaker 8: like damn, it was like the mothership was landing. And
Speaker 8: that happened for a whole year and a half. For
Speaker 8: the last two years.
Speaker 10: I was going to ask you about producing the Chili Peppers,
Speaker 10: because you produced them, how did you.
Speaker 3: Land Bricky Styly? Yeah, and the party plant.
Speaker 8: They were they were you know, they wanted to be
Speaker 8: Funky Deli. They you know, they put their work in
Speaker 8: so it's easy to work with them. You know, they
Speaker 8: was already for Caadelic fans and they knew what they
Speaker 8: wanted to do.
Speaker 7: But they wanted to do it punk. They wasn't trying
Speaker 7: to be sick.
Speaker 8: They could actually play slick music, but they went out
Speaker 8: of their way. They played some really good they make
Speaker 8: erase it. They wanted it to sound like punk. They
Speaker 8: was kind of like Garcia them, you know, they didn't
Speaker 8: want to learn it no better. I mean, plead them.
Speaker 8: They actually like jazz music, right, They wasn't trying to
Speaker 8: play it, you know what I mean, Hey, hello, he
Speaker 8: could actually really play, but he went out of his wave.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he went out of his way to No, you.
Speaker 8: Ain't saving that ship.
Speaker 9: I didn't get my question out because we got sidetracked by.
Speaker 6: Can you please tell us? Can you please tell us
Speaker 6: the David ruffin Sly story.
Speaker 4: It was a precursor to Clinton story.
Speaker 6: Yes, just the question is commercial for quest of Supreme enough.
Speaker 7: That that was the fun of me.
Speaker 8: That's that's that's some superstar drug stuff there. You know,
Speaker 8: once you once you've been a star and you're down,
Speaker 8: you don't realize that you're a star no more.
Speaker 7: Especially if you drank your drugs.
Speaker 8: And and I felt that we was a typical, the
Speaker 8: three of us was a typical of that particular thing
Speaker 8: at that time. We was going to see a friend
Speaker 8: of mine who's the dealer who loved us, who will
Speaker 8: give us anything we wanted, and so we just had
Speaker 8: to like play cool and let him do anything. But
Speaker 8: David wasn't in and no, you know, moved to be
Speaker 8: being nice to him. He was, he was, he was
Speaker 8: still a temptation, but he.
Speaker 6: Wasn't in his mind right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, So we tried to get him not
Speaker 8: to ruin it so we don't get out dope, and
Speaker 8: he's like.
Speaker 7: And slide trying to He's trying to referee, telling them no,
Speaker 7: George gotta he's right there.
Speaker 8: You got to listen to the juge, I said, boy,
Speaker 8: if you could, we had a picture of the three
Speaker 8: of us here trying to do this. You know, this
Speaker 8: is a funny ship. I don't think it's a funny, man,
Speaker 8: Let's go get the ship.
Speaker 6: Fuck it.
Speaker 3: It sounds like the scene in Boogie Knights with the fire.
Speaker 6: I know exactly what that is. This the story with
Speaker 6: the real to real tape with Sly.
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, that's.
Speaker 6: No, that's another story. Thought, this is the whole story. No, no,
Speaker 6: that's I meant the real tape.
Speaker 8: Yes, oh man, No, that's the dope dealer that he
Speaker 8: had the dope dealing.
Speaker 7: He the I'm gonna let you keep my real.
Speaker 8: This is real to my album. Give me some dope
Speaker 8: one credit, you can hold the album. But it wasn't
Speaker 8: nothing on the reel. So we do that a couple
Speaker 8: of times.
Speaker 7: But I'm getting scared. I'm getting scared.
Speaker 8: So you know, I said, no, I don't ain't nothing
Speaker 8: on the tape. Man, I tell the dude, ain't nothing
Speaker 8: on the tape.
Speaker 7: It ain't nothing tape.
Speaker 8: Yeah. So I mean this, after we did it two
Speaker 8: or three times, the dude tell me, don't you have
Speaker 8: to love him? Don't you just love him? Nobody was
Speaker 8: getting mad at nobody can get mad at it.
Speaker 4: You know that it must be a metal not for nothing.
Speaker 4: And I said this to Bootsy too.
Speaker 5: I was like, y'all are like medical marvels, Like not
Speaker 5: only do you look the way you do, but you
Speaker 5: also your memories are like perfectly intact, Like what.
Speaker 8: Did you I understanding because he reminded me of I forgot.
Speaker 7: I put all this sh in the book.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the words you was like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 5: know what you're talking about, like it was yesterday.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I forget. Yeah, yeah, that was
Speaker 7: some funny ship.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, what is your question?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 10: I was just going to ask you of all the
Speaker 10: just the lyrics that you've written. You know, you were
Speaker 10: a big inspiration to me as a as an MC
Speaker 10: because you would have just all these amazing plays on
Speaker 10: words and these puns and you know, this fishtail begins
Speaker 10: with most fishtails in like all that stuff.
Speaker 3: You just did really inventive stuff with language.
Speaker 10: And I just always wondered, did you have like a
Speaker 10: journal that you would write this stuff in or would
Speaker 10: it all just be off the top. What was just
Speaker 10: the writing process for your lyrics like I had?
Speaker 8: People would probably you know the band members the keen Up.
Speaker 8: Anytime you heard me say something or laugh and I
Speaker 8: hear something and I repeat it, he would write it
Speaker 8: down and all I have to do is say it,
Speaker 8: and he would in the studio.
Speaker 7: When I get ready to go in the student, he
Speaker 7: just give me.
Speaker 8: A list of things that have nothing to do with
Speaker 8: each other that I said, and and then we get
Speaker 8: a concept. We didn't start throwing puns at it and
Speaker 8: using like I said, using the little smokey Robinson of
Speaker 8: you know, pun on top of pun, but.
Speaker 7: We had two more to it to make it absurd.
Speaker 8: You know, we use synonyms, antonyms or harmonyms, it didn't matter.
Speaker 8: We just used all of it. If it sounds the same,
Speaker 8: we throw it in there. And and we can actually
Speaker 8: get especially with Bootsy, we could say anything the boots
Speaker 8: and if he said in that boy, you know, it would.
Speaker 7: Actually work, you know, like.
Speaker 6: Be my beach right.
Speaker 8: You know he says some of the stupidest stuff and
Speaker 8: the dumber it was the funny it was if you
Speaker 8: said it because he had that overtone like Jimmy and the.
Speaker 7: Whole walking on your boat.
Speaker 6: And I had and all that stuff.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 6: So is he making that up at the microphone? Is
Speaker 6: there's just a list of We've been feeding it.
Speaker 7: To him in his boom.
Speaker 8: We just said to him and he said after so
Speaker 8: he laying if the knick a bill was fun, but
Speaker 8: I would be doing it to Boogie, would be doing
Speaker 8: it to And once we got a concept, we can
Speaker 8: just say anything. Now a song like Ryan Stone Rockstump
Speaker 8: Monster with Dub Baby Babba, I would write those parts
Speaker 8: all the reality.
Speaker 6: I asked him this question.
Speaker 9: Now I got to ask you probably you know in
Speaker 9: the history of all the songs that you've written. I
Speaker 9: don't think that to be alive in nineteen seventy eight
Speaker 9: when that song was that its most popular. I've never
Speaker 9: seen it, and I was seven years old at the time.
Speaker 9: But if a seven year old knows that song, then
Speaker 9: you know it's something. Why did you guys just not
Speaker 9: call that song wind me Up? Could have just called
Speaker 9: it wind me Up? It took me good to find
Speaker 9: it because I didn't know what Bootzilla was, Like, why
Speaker 9: did y'all not.
Speaker 6: Call it wind me up?
Speaker 8: He was a rock star monster for doll Baby.
Speaker 7: That was a that was a toy.
Speaker 8: That was a toy called boot Billy made by to
Speaker 8: make us the funky things to play with. That was
Speaker 8: a whole concept.
Speaker 9: You want to as a toy, but not as the
Speaker 9: as the hook.
Speaker 8: Okay, no, no, the toy.
Speaker 7: But then he got scared. I forgot if we got
Speaker 7: so big.
Speaker 8: I told him, it's gonna be hard to live up
Speaker 8: to this, you know, So don't don't equate yourself with
Speaker 8: being this character, because way it's way bigger than you're
Speaker 8: gonna possibly because we was on a roll then I
Speaker 8: had done it with we love to funk you funking
Speaker 8: style and said you can talk about yourself and not
Speaker 8: believe it. The main thing is, don't need this ship
Speaker 8: because if it works, you're gonna be in a hell.
Speaker 7: Of a whose position to try to live up to it.
Speaker 7: Just do it and even long. And that was hard for.
Speaker 8: Him because, like I told him, the boots got bigger,
Speaker 8: the glasses got bigger, everything get bigger till this too
Speaker 8: heavy to carry?
Speaker 9: Part two of this question. Part two of this question.
Speaker 9: Do you think part of him kind of wanted to
Speaker 9: sabotage this boot was made for funking because that album
Speaker 9: was the complete opposite.
Speaker 8: Oh that's when that's when he went out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what he Definitely he wanted to control and
Speaker 7: I let him.
Speaker 8: Have control him of that album.
Speaker 7: It was it was different, though he wasn't.
Speaker 9: The same, Yeah, but the thing was it was so
Speaker 9: like ah, I always wanted to Like I listened to it.
Speaker 9: I appreciate it now forty years after the fact, but
Speaker 9: back then it was I was like, wait, something's different
Speaker 9: about this record than the other three?
Speaker 7: And what did he say?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 9: No, no, I mean I never asked him about it,
Speaker 9: but I think as I got older, I was thinking
Speaker 9: like there was a point where Boots he could have
Speaker 9: actually overshadowed the entire p funk.
Speaker 6: He chose not to.
Speaker 8: He had started, we had started to let him headline
Speaker 8: the shows. That's when it had got to that point,
Speaker 8: the way he was that you know, at the time
Speaker 8: when they scared him, he answers scared of him, he
Speaker 8: got shingles. That's when he got this tingle on his
Speaker 8: very first date by himself. But at the same time,
Speaker 8: you know, we had the political business of the trolls
Speaker 8: was entering the picture trying to tear the part, and
Speaker 8: it was getting too big. There wasn't gonna be another motown.
Speaker 8: The industry had made up them out. There was not
Speaker 8: gonna be another motown and we were at that level
Speaker 8: to that was beginning to be. You know, after we
Speaker 8: get Uncle Lami, they at was gonna have a Shaka
Speaker 8: and Larry because all of us was together by then.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, you're on the same label. I forgot that.
Speaker 9: Speaking of clones, always wanted to know what were your
Speaker 9: thoughts on all of the p funk music that didn't
Speaker 9: come from the p funk camp that was obviously so
Speaker 9: derivative of the p funk sound. And I'm talking about
Speaker 9: I'm talking about gat Band, I'm talking about joy Stick
Speaker 9: by George George. I mean, the thing is that you
Speaker 9: scared us that really really Yeah.
Speaker 8: I told you you know your you know your thing
Speaker 8: that one close, reach for it, reach for it. Yes, yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Said, damn, did you steak up and do a record
Speaker 7: with them or something?
Speaker 8: I felt like it was gonna get me to be
Speaker 8: a genre I wanted it to be.
Speaker 7: You know, especially Ohio Players.
Speaker 8: They were like that. They were like one of the
Speaker 8: punkiest ones, you know, but them and then Prince you
Speaker 8: know him, like Stevie, they was inclined to do pop music,
Speaker 8: but they could be punky as all hell, you know,
Speaker 8: and you know, they just knew that they could get
Speaker 8: away with doing the pop music and that's where you know,
Speaker 8: the money was at.
Speaker 7: Or you could do wide a variety of songs.
Speaker 8: But all of them, Prince and Jimmy Jam at the time,
Speaker 8: all of them that was funky Rick then all of
Speaker 8: them was beginning to be, you know, a funk Gendre
Speaker 8: Irwin and Fire was popping at first, but then they
Speaker 8: started embracing it as funk after a while.
Speaker 9: You know, we asked Philip Bailey, what was his thoughts
Speaker 9: on Let's Take It to the Stage.
Speaker 6: He said he'd never heard of it. Philip Billy said,
Speaker 6: he we played Let's Take It to the Stage room.
Speaker 6: He had no.
Speaker 9: Clue that he was being, uh, this record sort of not.
Speaker 9: I took it his plateful ribbing. Yeah, did anyone did
Speaker 9: any of those groups ever try to approach you? You
Speaker 9: know snoofists and slipping the flamily bricks and smooth crazy
Speaker 9: say that's fucked up?
Speaker 8: You see? Was cool?
Speaker 6: That was?
Speaker 7: You know, No, nobody never said that.
Speaker 8: It was you know, only people we mentioned with people
Speaker 8: that we like, you know, And I think that's what
Speaker 8: a lot of the people to the distant thing when
Speaker 8: they started dissing each other.
Speaker 7: That was like playing the dozens when I was.
Speaker 8: In school, and you start getting paid for it. You know,
Speaker 8: that's what you know, a jail house rhyming. You know,
Speaker 8: Once that became pop, once that became the music. Okay,
Speaker 8: I saw that that that makes sense, especially when I
Speaker 8: heard somebody like rock Kim.
Speaker 7: You know, that's just like, damn, you can do it.
Speaker 7: That's fucking good.
Speaker 8: And then I didn't realize we had mother right there.
Speaker 8: In our town, eminem. He was fifteen years old and
Speaker 8: we didn't even.
Speaker 7: Pay attention to him. He was like slimy shady.
Speaker 8: On our ass, and we knew him. We knew he
Speaker 8: was bad, but we had no idea that mother was
Speaker 8: all bad. We knew he was bad, but we watched
Speaker 8: him just like right, not knows raining the studio?
Speaker 9: Right while we're there, can you tell us a print
Speaker 9: story that we don't know?
Speaker 6: You? You weren't probably you were.
Speaker 8: For before we got on Pasty. He sent me a tape.
Speaker 7: He sent me a.
Speaker 8: Tape he wanted me to work on. He sent it
Speaker 8: to the and so we told him we didn't want
Speaker 8: to be responsible for the tape. Send it to the
Speaker 8: studio the engineer. Let the engineer get it set up.
Speaker 8: I would go in there and do a do a party.
Speaker 8: I ain't trusted, you know, doing nothing with his you know,
Speaker 8: his tape. I'm gonna go be responsible. So we get
Speaker 8: to the studio and I'm getting ready to put my
Speaker 8: part on it.
Speaker 7: And it was called cookie Jar.
Speaker 8: Oh okay, we had already did a cookie job, but
Speaker 8: it was different than that.
Speaker 7: The engineer put the tape on backward.
Speaker 8: You know how you roll the tape off back when
Speaker 8: some people roll the tape off tail tail out, and
Speaker 8: so when he put it on, he tried to clean
Speaker 8: the tape to get him some you know, clean the
Speaker 8: tape is to get him some clean, some space. But
Speaker 8: it was tail out. He raised half of the song
Speaker 8: on the tail end of the song. So I gets
Speaker 8: to the studio and he's looking wild and scary, and.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't even go in the studio.
Speaker 8: I said, I'm not going I'm not even going in.
Speaker 8: I want this to be I was not. Yeah, I
Speaker 8: had nothing to do, but this is the first time
Speaker 8: I had interaction with him, you know, and I know
Speaker 8: you know, I would have got blamed all of that.
Speaker 8: So I'm not going in there y'all and telling what
Speaker 8: happened and let.
Speaker 7: Him know that I was nowhere near.
Speaker 6: Oh my god. And hopefully.
Speaker 8: No, they never they never got a chance to do
Speaker 8: it again. We heard the beginning of it was good,
Speaker 8: but about a minute it happened to the song that
Speaker 8: goes blank, and that was the only one he had
Speaker 8: of it.
Speaker 3: Man, damn, I'm glad.
Speaker 6: I let's let's prow some water out for that.
Speaker 3: That's not the story you wanted to hear.
Speaker 10: Okay, did did he ever play you when you did
Speaker 10: We Can Funk for Graffiti Bridge?
Speaker 3: Did he ever play you the original We Can Funk?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 4: Huh?
Speaker 6: He did?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 8: I like that that that and so psychedelic side, both
Speaker 8: of those he played me both of those.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he told us that.
Speaker 8: He told us to go crazy on it and and
Speaker 8: do you know what we do in me and Gary
Speaker 8: just with the lunch on it, and then he mixed
Speaker 8: them both together.
Speaker 7: Have you heard the long vision?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I got it?
Speaker 8: Yeah, ah for y'all crazy.
Speaker 6: Actually, you know what I was shocked.
Speaker 9: What's weird is that you're technically the Weekend Funk that
Speaker 9: you're on on Graffiti Bridge is technically the base of
Speaker 9: it is still the eighty four version, which to me
Speaker 9: speaks more of how far I've headed Prince's time.
Speaker 6: Prince was the fact.
Speaker 9: That he could send you a real that he worked
Speaker 9: on probably in nineteen eighty three, and it still works
Speaker 9: for nineteen ninety and you know, still works thirty five
Speaker 9: years after that fact, you know, I mean once once
Speaker 9: it was finally released back in twenty and seventeen, it
Speaker 9: still sounds, you know, fresh and right.
Speaker 8: Have you ever. Have you ever heard of Paradigm?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: No, wow, you didn't.
Speaker 6: I've not heard of that.
Speaker 7: Check that one out him and just him and myself.
Speaker 6: Really, Okay, it's on.
Speaker 8: It's one of my records.
Speaker 6: Okay, this is not with TCL is on it right?
Speaker 7: No, no, no, not that, it's not.
Speaker 6: No tcl's jokes.
Speaker 7: No, but.
Speaker 8: It's on how late I think.
Speaker 6: You know what it is? It is? It is? I
Speaker 6: did hear it.
Speaker 9: I heard it, and it was It came out in
Speaker 9: ninety six, ninety.
Speaker 8: Seven, I think no, no, no, no, it came out
Speaker 8: in two thousand.
Speaker 9: There is There is a song that while we were
Speaker 9: still working on Voodoo, you sent D'Angelo.
Speaker 6: So it was like ninety eight ninety nine. It was
Speaker 6: a CD.
Speaker 9: It was a cassette that he played us. I don't
Speaker 9: know when it came out, but you sent a song
Speaker 9: to him that was you and Prince and I think
Speaker 9: the vocals were various feeded to sound cartoonist.
Speaker 6: There is I don't know who the title of the
Speaker 6: song was.
Speaker 8: Check it. Check out this google paradigm.
Speaker 6: Okay, I will do that.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 10: I wanted to ask you a question about the brides
Speaker 10: of Funkenstein and how you came up with the concept
Speaker 10: to put them together the song Bertie is just I
Speaker 10: love that damn song. What was the what was the
Speaker 10: concept of putting them together and then versus what in
Speaker 10: your mind as a producer was going to be the
Speaker 10: difference between them versus parlay?
Speaker 7: Okay, and that took that we did.
Speaker 8: Neil Bogart asked for a group after we were successful
Speaker 8: at Cattle Blanka, and so we gave gave him the.
Speaker 7: The Brides of Funkenstein.
Speaker 8: That was kind of that was dark for him, you know,
Speaker 8: he was bubblegummy. He thought that was a dog. He
Speaker 8: wanted something really simple, the grass Parlet.
Speaker 7: So we took those two.
Speaker 8: Girls, Lynn and Dawn and gave them to Atlantic. We
Speaker 8: did the whole album and that album was actually done
Speaker 8: for Julia Phillips. She did Close k Counters, the girl
Speaker 8: that produced Director there. She she wanted a disco version
Speaker 8: of Remember they were doing soundtracks of all the shows,
Speaker 8: all the big so she wanted a version of that.
Speaker 8: So we did a Warship two shot for for you know,
Speaker 8: for her, and we were gonna give it to Neil. Neil
Speaker 8: wanted to pop. He wanted Partlett, so we gave that
Speaker 8: record to Atlantic and then we did partlet for for
Speaker 8: you know, cats a Blanca. That's how we end up
Speaker 8: with the two girl groups.
Speaker 3: So gotcha?
Speaker 6: Was Neil a traditional label head?
Speaker 9: I meant like, yeah, all right, But I'm saying, though,
Speaker 9: are you going to him plan uh do that stuff?
Speaker 6: And he has an opinion on.
Speaker 3: It or is record?
Speaker 9: Give me a three minutes and thirty second version of
Speaker 9: You're Fish and I'm a Water.
Speaker 6: Now, he's not just letting you do what you want.
Speaker 8: He pretty much let us do what he wants. But
Speaker 8: he but he do that and in the beginning he
Speaker 8: knew what kind of group he want. Once we got there,
Speaker 8: we could do what we wanted with him. But he
Speaker 8: was so good at being a record man that you
Speaker 8: tried to give him what he wanted, you know, because
Speaker 8: you know he's going to put everything in the world
Speaker 8: behind promoting it. When I said I wanted the spaceship,
Speaker 8: he just got me a bank and they and they
Speaker 8: got together and they I was able to get the spaceship.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: He was on Cameo Parkway, he was you know, so
Speaker 8: he was from that school of records. He knew how
Speaker 8: to do from the cameo Parkway version.
Speaker 7: Then Buddha.
Speaker 8: He was like God.
Speaker 7: He was like the bubblegum king.
Speaker 8: So by the time he got the Castle Blanker, he
Speaker 8: was getting this shot.
Speaker 7: He could do pretty much what he wanted, and he
Speaker 7: did it.
Speaker 8: He was a real record man that spent everything on promotion.
Speaker 7: He was a promotion man.
Speaker 8: That's why I liked and I knew I could do
Speaker 8: a concept called mother Ship or you know, and even
Speaker 8: give me the prompts that I need to, you know,
Speaker 8: to promote the record.
Speaker 7: He understood that.
Speaker 9: I should have asked this question at the beginning, because
Speaker 9: you're the You're the you're the you're the north star
Speaker 9: of this whole stratosphere. But how taxing is it two
Speaker 9: maintain personalities and deal with business because you're you're dealing
Speaker 9: with over twelve groups and.
Speaker 3: Across like three or four different labels.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's everyone has their record deal and you know,
Speaker 9: you gotta you.
Speaker 10: Know, calim and Funcadela was the original w Tang.
Speaker 3: George. George was the original.
Speaker 6: So how how are you maintaining.
Speaker 9: You know, at this member and that that member makes
Speaker 9: your payroll gets in time.
Speaker 6: And we left that at out at the bus.
Speaker 9: Station and getting getting to the gigs on time, and
Speaker 9: one of the light rigs went out, or the drummer
Speaker 9: someone of the o d backstage like, how are you.
Speaker 6: You gotta deal? You got to be everyone's father and collaborator.
Speaker 4: And and still be free.
Speaker 7: And go on get on drugs and go on to
Speaker 7: your wife?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 6: How not? How? But why? Why would you ever want
Speaker 6: to do that to yourself?
Speaker 7: That was my mission?
Speaker 8: That's my mission. I mean, that's I started this at thirteen,
Speaker 8: and I wanted to be that, you know in this business,
Speaker 8: and I never changed them. When I got motown with
Speaker 8: my aspiration Bill spectrum of my aspiration, Jimmy Hendrix my aspiration,
Speaker 8: you know, and then whoever else come in and.
Speaker 7: Do it hard that becomes my aspiration.
Speaker 8: When I hit Slide, that was my Beatles turned me
Speaker 8: completely to pug out. That's what. Oh my god, I
Speaker 8: wanted to a funk opera once I sawd Sergeant Pepper.
Speaker 8: You know from a songwriter standpoint that that was impeccable.
Speaker 8: You know, when the lyrics was nonsensical and but melodic
Speaker 8: instill you had a mother doing arrangement like big band
Speaker 8: arrangement on a rock and roll band.
Speaker 7: They had a concept that worked. Cream.
Speaker 8: All of those things influenced me.
Speaker 6: So are there other genres?
Speaker 9: Are there other genres of music that we don't know
Speaker 9: that you're into?
Speaker 6: Like how big is your jazz?
Speaker 7: But Go Go, Go Go Go?
Speaker 4: What I was about to ask about your relationship with DC, because.
Speaker 8: Go Go Go Go Go Go just had it a
Speaker 8: little harder than funk me because Go Go is uh
Speaker 8: go Go is religious.
Speaker 7: They don't want that to get out of d C.
Speaker 8: No, No, I mean the d C people wanted to
Speaker 8: get out, But I'm saying that industry don't. That's that's
Speaker 8: something that's some that's some other kind of uga. We
Speaker 8: call it uga booga. You know that. I mean that works.
Speaker 8: I don't care how big a star, but Go Go
Speaker 8: band get up on stage before you. You measine that.
Speaker 7: You better hope they don't play your record Go Go.
Speaker 8: Better than you. Okay, I didn't see that happen. No men, Chuck,
Speaker 8: Me and Chucks we worked together before he was calling
Speaker 8: it Go Go. One of his first songs that he
Speaker 8: did was I don't care about the COVID when you're
Speaker 8: hot too much? When you're hot, your hot. Tiki was
Speaker 8: playing with us then and played there with them, and
Speaker 8: that was they grew for years before they became, you know,
Speaker 8: a go go band, the Soul Search you.
Speaker 6: You know what.
Speaker 9: There's there's an interview that I heard from you in
Speaker 9: nineteen eighty.
Speaker 6: I think this is when.
Speaker 9: Nineteen eighty what's out, Oh, Parliament's Tumbipulation.
Speaker 6: You did a month long residency.
Speaker 9: I think you were promoting during a month long residency
Speaker 9: at the Apollo Theater.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we kept up.
Speaker 7: We kept the theater open. They was getting ready to
Speaker 7: close it down.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, could you talk about how
Speaker 6: does one do a month long residency at the.
Speaker 8: Power We needed someplace to rehearse the new theatrical show
Speaker 8: called Popsicle Stick that was a Trumpipulation album, and we
Speaker 8: needed someplace to rehearse the pelap papers with us. That's
Speaker 8: when he was Uncle Jam's army, So we needed someplace
Speaker 8: to rehearse, and they.
Speaker 7: Needed to keep the theater open.
Speaker 8: Because they was getting ready to tear it down. We
Speaker 8: did a stunt there. Bob Marley played there after us
Speaker 8: and James Brown played up there, and that we kept
Speaker 8: it open. Froze our ass off because they didn't have
Speaker 8: no heat in.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was what I say.
Speaker 9: Now, now it's nice and furnished, and yeah, it's really
Speaker 9: no more rats.
Speaker 6: But back in nineteen eighty, what was it that was
Speaker 6: the labor of love? Was it?
Speaker 8: It was almost it was almost closed it And like
Speaker 8: I said, it was we hadn't been opened that much.
Speaker 8: And I forget the people who owned it at the time.
Speaker 8: There was some hustlers. There was some hustlers on it,
Speaker 8: but they kept it alive.
Speaker 6: I'm rappid fire now, I got it. I'm headed back
Speaker 6: to the sixties. Is it true?
Speaker 9: I heard a rumor that you are one of the
Speaker 9: background singers on Barbara Lewis's Hello Stranger.
Speaker 6: No, that's not you.
Speaker 8: No, okay, I always loved I always loved that song.
Speaker 8: Pat Lewis a friend.
Speaker 7: Of mine who's pretty much singing on everything I did.
Speaker 8: She was one of the hot button soul.
Speaker 11: Yeah, she's saying on all of them, Dion Jackson and
Speaker 11: Barbara Lewis, all of those songs that sounded like smoky.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, okay. I asked you this when I was
Speaker 6: doing the DJ set. So're you're telling.
Speaker 9: Me that some random guy came up to you and said,
Speaker 9: I can play guitar. Pretty good if you give me
Speaker 9: twenty five bucks and just for kicks, you decided to
Speaker 9: let him see what would happen?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that takes a lot of nerd and takes a
Speaker 8: lot of nerd.
Speaker 7: And so that first.
Speaker 9: Note that he hit on, get off your ass and
Speaker 9: jam is him.
Speaker 6: That's shrill.
Speaker 9: Yeah, wow, that is my favorite shrill noise of all time.
Speaker 8: He kept our attention from that's real all the way
Speaker 8: to the song with Phinney's.
Speaker 6: So, is that you guys acting?
Speaker 9: Is that you guys reacting to him as you because
Speaker 9: you hear either, I don't.
Speaker 6: Know if it's lin Marbury said, god like like you hear.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's almost in sample ology. Yeah, that her reaction
Speaker 9: is almost.
Speaker 6: As much as a sample. That's what he was playing.
Speaker 6: So you guys are laughing at what you're hearing, and
Speaker 6: literally it just all went down at once. Ship. The
Speaker 6: song wasn't written beforehand.
Speaker 3: It's just like, all right, play anything, Yeah, no, just
Speaker 3: a track.
Speaker 8: We didn't ship. God damn.
Speaker 7: I didn't want to get in the way of that.
Speaker 7: That's why I made it so simple. You know, don't
Speaker 7: say nothing, just ship goddamn, get off your hand.
Speaker 6: And then he left and you never heard from him again.
Speaker 8: We wanted to talk to him because I gave him
Speaker 8: fifty dollars.
Speaker 7: I wanted to give you more, man.
Speaker 10: I wanted to ask you about your work with Outcasts
Speaker 10: and the Dungeon family because they were certainly you know,
Speaker 10: a fruit, you know from your tree, you know, something
Speaker 10: from the p Funk family, And you did a synthesizer
Speaker 10: on uh on stan Conia. But then you also did
Speaker 10: another record wasn't as well known, but I loved it.
Speaker 10: It was called Black Mermaid, but it was on the
Speaker 10: Society Soul Out. Yeah, do you remember anything about those sessions?
Speaker 8: And I was like, I'm like, they reminded me of Parliament,
Speaker 8: Funk and del too, because all of them were the outcast,
Speaker 8: Dungeon Family and Goodie Mob. They was all together at
Speaker 8: that time and they hadn't separated into those so I
Speaker 8: didn't know who the record was going to be, you know,
Speaker 8: but all Sleepy and all of them, big Boy and
Speaker 8: all of them, they were, you know, they just come
Speaker 8: down the dark.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: I stayed I pretty much lived in dark, you know,
Speaker 8: under Dallas from the Climax things, and so that was
Speaker 8: like I love that. My part time in.
Speaker 7: Atlanta Yeah, that old old Dungeon family. They had a
Speaker 7: bunch of good song.
Speaker 10: How did you get up with? I was going with
Speaker 10: more King of your hip hop cribs. You and Kendrick
Speaker 10: Lamar on Pimper Butterfly? How did that come about?
Speaker 8: One of my grandkids said that he wanted to do
Speaker 8: a song with me and that I should do it
Speaker 8: with him, and he was he talked the same ship
Speaker 8: that I told. He knew what that meant. But when
Speaker 8: I met him, he was He's a smart kid. God damn.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, he.
Speaker 7: Went to school and he's still had the street thing.
Speaker 8: You know. He was like well aware, you know, and
Speaker 8: I know most of the people from Compton, you know,
Speaker 8: and he was here was a whole nother energy from
Speaker 8: that and he's really he put he put work in
Speaker 8: your mind, you of like you like Beyonce, like Prince,
Speaker 8: They put work in, Like Michael Jackson put work in.
Speaker 8: He's another one of those people that that put the
Speaker 8: work in.
Speaker 9: Did you say at one point you had the babysit
Speaker 9: the jack when you were I don't know if I
Speaker 9: heard that right. You were a staff writer at Motown, and.
Speaker 8: No, I would saying baby said it was Carrie Gordy.
Speaker 6: Oh, okay, carry who was.
Speaker 8: When they were when they were yeah Carrie, Yeah, when
Speaker 8: they lived in New York. When when we worked at
Speaker 8: the Brill Building.
Speaker 6: Oh Carrie Gordon, Wait, you worked at the Brill Building.
Speaker 8: I worked at the Brill Building sixty two three.
Speaker 6: What was that like?
Speaker 8: Joe Joe Joe Bett was there. I did not know
Speaker 8: that Joe Bett was on the ninth floor.
Speaker 9: I never knew that till you were running to Carol
Speaker 9: King and Niel said, Terry Goffin, Yeah all of that.
Speaker 6: Dude, no one you saw. No wonder your lyric game
Speaker 6: is so tight.
Speaker 8: No, I would don Kirshner, Jesus.
Speaker 6: Christ cold pits. Really you ever hear?
Speaker 8: Jean Red?
Speaker 6: Yes, cool in the game.
Speaker 8: Jean Red cool. Okay, yeah, Jean Red, Cecil Holmes, Buzzy Willis.
Speaker 8: We all worked together before they went to work with
Speaker 8: Neil Bogat that Boodha. We all worked for Jean Red.
Speaker 8: He did cool in the Gang, the Soul Sisters, and
Speaker 8: there's and Charlie Fox.
Speaker 7: Jean Jean was that one. That's Penny Ford's.
Speaker 9: Brother, Penny four formerly a Snap And yeah, that's her brother,
Speaker 9: well of.
Speaker 6: Her own Rights. She used to be on Told Experienced Records.
Speaker 8: Yeah, she's she's on our album too.
Speaker 6: Wait when did she joined? When did Penny four join?
Speaker 8: She was on one of my albums. She's on the
Speaker 8: on the Paisty Park album.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, this is I got the power voice.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's her, I got the one.
Speaker 8: That's her.
Speaker 6: You know you know everything we were talking about. You
Speaker 6: just don't know.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, this is the This is another question I
Speaker 9: had in reflection. The Chronic Man was such a flag
Speaker 9: planting album of your legacy. You damn near produced it yourself.
Speaker 9: Why have Why have you and Doctor Dre? Like and
Speaker 9: listening to it? I was like, Yo, why hasn't George
Speaker 9: and Doctor Dre just made an album together? Because he
Speaker 9: clearly made The Chronic as an audition love letter to you.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I would like to see that happen too.
Speaker 8: I worked with Cube and Snoop too.
Speaker 7: Snoop all the time.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But you know, have you have you and Dre ever
Speaker 6: talked about Hey, let's.
Speaker 8: Get the We never we never had a chance to
Speaker 8: kick it, you know, we just state no, we.
Speaker 4: Haven't make it happen to me?
Speaker 6: We got to make that happen.
Speaker 7: Make it happen, man, I would love.
Speaker 8: To do that.
Speaker 6: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 9: Men, it's such a captain obvious moment.
Speaker 3: Wow, heat the bridge, manat the bridge.
Speaker 6: I'll beat the bridge three questions and then I'll stop.
Speaker 4: Can I ask a dumb question before you ask your
Speaker 4: real smart one?
Speaker 6: There's no such thing as as dumb questions.
Speaker 4: Because I know he's answered it. But I just wanted to.
Speaker 5: I just want to, really wanted to know what was
Speaker 5: what the you mentioned your life changed with the copyright
Speaker 5: stuff and everything, but visually, when did.
Speaker 4: Your life change?
Speaker 5: Because I feel like I saw you on at the
Speaker 5: Roost jam in La like years and years ago, but
Speaker 5: that was the first time I saw you in a
Speaker 5: suit with the hat looking fine.
Speaker 6: I thought it was I thought it was tik Yo.
Speaker 6: When he walked in the door, I was like, wait,
Speaker 6: teress wearing a suit.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, that's George clad some real ship.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I had to. I had to go through that
Speaker 8: period for a minute, a minute, you know, justice playing
Speaker 8: up for a second. But then as soon as I
Speaker 8: did that, C told me that man put the costume
Speaker 8: back on. That what made you do it?
Speaker 4: Because you what made you do it period in the
Speaker 4: first place.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm just figured it it's time to change again.
Speaker 8: I've been changing people that you know.
Speaker 7: I think it's a new dude.
Speaker 5: They did, Yeah, we did, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 9: I have a question about the twenty grand in Detroit.
Speaker 9: Is there any truth to the rumor that you yep?
Speaker 6: I did question out yet?
Speaker 9: Is there any truth to the rumor that you got
Speaker 9: butt naked? Yep, I need question out answerest Gary Gordy's
Speaker 9: table or Dina Ross's table.
Speaker 7: I didn't pee, I didn't.
Speaker 6: I heard that, Okay.
Speaker 7: I just I pulled wine. I pulled wine on my
Speaker 7: on my.
Speaker 8: Head, it dripped down my body, so it appeared that
Speaker 8: I peed on the drink.
Speaker 9: I can't even imagine Barry Gordy and Dinah Ross at
Speaker 9: a Funkadelic shell.
Speaker 8: They used to call it slumming when whenever we was
Speaker 8: at twenty grad you put on your jeans with holes
Speaker 8: in them and patches that said fuck you, and you
Speaker 8: go slumming them with pefo. That was the thing.
Speaker 7: They have mink song and jeans with holes.
Speaker 8: And they would be they would be coming down to
Speaker 8: get funky.
Speaker 9: But the thing is is that Hendricks could not sit.
Speaker 9: I mean, who knows if he would have finally broken
Speaker 9: through the other side had he lived. How are you
Speaker 9: guys in facing black people trying to sell this radical
Speaker 9: concept and how did it work?
Speaker 8: Because we were too black for white folks, too white
Speaker 8: for black folks. But the people that Life Us stayed
Speaker 8: with us forever. You get they went slowly, but you
Speaker 8: built slowly. But the one that came with you stayed forever.
Speaker 8: But it was too It was definitely too too white
Speaker 8: for black folks, and there was too black for white
Speaker 8: for the most white folks. But like I said, the
Speaker 8: fans that Life Us was a cult, and they still was.
Speaker 8: I mean, I got them out there. My age right
Speaker 8: now still want to put on a diaper.
Speaker 3: A specific choice to keep Funkadelic.
Speaker 10: The more kind of rock side of what you're doing
Speaker 10: in Parliament, the more r and b kind of your
Speaker 10: soul side that.
Speaker 6: Was intentional but coming to one nation under group.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we get out of we get out of sink
Speaker 8: every once in a while.
Speaker 9: I mean, so that the Funkadelic members feel a certain
Speaker 9: way like yeah, wait a minute, this sounds like parliament.
Speaker 8: No, they was all on all the records anyway, we
Speaker 8: was on everybody was on both records, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 9: So when songs get released, are you like, okay, this
Speaker 9: is definitely gonna like at any point, was One Nation
Speaker 9: Undergroove about to be a Parliament record or you were just.
Speaker 8: Like no, that was that was straight from the moment
Speaker 8: we cut it. We was cutting from Funkadelic. Junior had
Speaker 8: just got with us, say on One Nation. Okay, Junior
Speaker 8: had just got with us, So we took the equipment
Speaker 8: out of the box. They was playing on brand new equipment,
Speaker 8: so they was enthusias hell and that track just came
Speaker 8: off and we did it was freestyle this A girl
Speaker 8: gave me that title from d C said y'all like
Speaker 8: one Nation on the groove, So I just started singing that,
Speaker 8: you know, one Nation and that was the chant and
Speaker 8: that was the quick song and first Funkadelic like really hit,
Speaker 8: but that was yeah, that was gonna be funky and
Speaker 8: n Deep was definitely for Funkadelly.
Speaker 9: How do you know when a song is done Because
Speaker 9: a lot of your songs are maybe eight to nine
Speaker 9: miniature choruses or many parts that add up to a
Speaker 9: bigger picture for any of you.
Speaker 3: Comic Dog is like twelve cores.
Speaker 9: Like I was gonna say, if you, if you, if
Speaker 9: you just type in atomic Dog edit, I'm certain that
Speaker 9: you'll find someone's version of the song and which you'll
Speaker 9: hear parts of the song that you never knew existed before.
Speaker 9: But like with you, it's just like any idea works,
Speaker 9: Just put it on tape and it'll.
Speaker 6: Find a home.
Speaker 9: Or like, how do you how do you structure what
Speaker 9: goes here for eight bars?
Speaker 8: And I have to change my theory on that lately
Speaker 8: because they they got snapchats and short songs now and tiktoks,
Speaker 8: so they can't be long songs too much no more.
Speaker 8: So I have to like make ourselves stop otherwise I
Speaker 8: just I'll just be going created crazy. And then I
Speaker 8: know now that they can edit and take parts out,
Speaker 8: so that really makes me, you know.
Speaker 9: No, But I mean you're the originator of that, like,
Speaker 9: because you know, if you tell somebody sing not just needy,
Speaker 9: there's eight parts you can choose, and there's eight hooks.
Speaker 3: And we all know which one.
Speaker 8: That's what. That's what Prince said. He said, man, you
Speaker 8: got eight songs in the deep. He said, you can
Speaker 8: sample them each part and make a whole song out
Speaker 8: of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, that's what made it great.
Speaker 4: How many grand babies do you have, mister Quinn.
Speaker 8: Man, I'm count them up so I remember that I
Speaker 8: got to I got quite a few.
Speaker 6: Okay, he's working. This is this conversation is long overdue.
Speaker 6: I thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Do this.
Speaker 7: Let's do this, man, we will do this.
Speaker 6: And congrats on your your freedom and your your legacy.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much and getting your ship back for real.
Speaker 8: If you find if you got anybody that really wants
Speaker 8: to join in on getting this stuff, let me know.
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm on it.
Speaker 9: I'll be calling okay, yes, and I'm Pep Bill answer
Speaker 9: to Stephen pan Tickeolo. This Quest Love Supreme, Grand Imperial
Speaker 9: Guide himself, George Clinton.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much. We will see you in the
Speaker 6: next go around. The Quest Love Supreme.
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