WEBVTT - QLS Classic: George Clinton Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>What's Up Everybody, It's unpayvill the Team Supreme. For this

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<v Speaker 2>classic episode of Quest Love Supreme, we're speaking with the incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>the One, the Only, George Clinton, the parliament Funkadelic. Last

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<v Speaker 2>week we reissued part one of this conversation. Now in

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<v Speaker 2>part two, did a deep dive and asked these sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of rappit ble fan questions that make QLs week. This

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<v Speaker 2>was taped in mid twenty twenty during those early days

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<v Speaker 2>of the pandemic, so Team Supreme was still learning how to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get along virtually and in general.

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<v Speaker 2>But the quality of the conversation is amazing. Make sure

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<v Speaker 2>you check out all our interviews with Booty Collins, Larry

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<v Speaker 2>Blackman cameo and the late George Brown cool Gag. QoS

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<v Speaker 2>loves bringing you that phone and it gets no better

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<v Speaker 2>than George Clinton.

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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned Boosie.

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<v Speaker 5>I just wanted to ask you since we had him

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<v Speaker 5>on the show and he told some awesome stories about you.

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<v Speaker 4>But one of the stories he mentioned.

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<v Speaker 5>Was something involved y'all creative process in the was it

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<v Speaker 5>the Bermuda triangle? He said that you used to do that,

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<v Speaker 5>but he never knew why that place and to like

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<v Speaker 5>be creative, can you please?

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<v Speaker 6>You went fishing in the Bermuda Triangle.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, you know that. We was the only one

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<v Speaker 7>after the Mothership connection, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>You know the whole thing was we went to Bemani

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<v Speaker 8>and to hang out and the number one Bemani Road

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<v Speaker 8>and everything I saw all of the fish advertisement. Mister

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<v Speaker 8>Wiggerdworm was a lure that was collecting information for the

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<v Speaker 8>Motivooty affair. Wow, he didn't know what we were talking

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<v Speaker 8>what I was doing. You know, I was just gathering

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<v Speaker 8>the topics, you know, from that topic and.

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<v Speaker 7>It all came together pretty good.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, we was on a roll.

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<v Speaker 6>You had no fear of drowning and the Bermuda Triangle

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<v Speaker 6>at all.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, I mean, it's all I need to fear. That

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<v Speaker 8>gent everywhere we wanted. He tells you that we saw spaceship.

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<v Speaker 8>He tells you something happened to.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he told us about this.

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<v Speaker 8>Now that's for real. I mean we drove up there

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<v Speaker 8>from Detroit after finishing the album, got there with and

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<v Speaker 8>went by Gary's house.

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<v Speaker 7>It was like ten o'clock in the morning. Now we

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<v Speaker 7>just got there.

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<v Speaker 8>We saw a light that looked like laser, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>or light, but it was a straight being and I said,

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<v Speaker 8>you see that? He said, what was it?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>Five minutes later, we get off the highway be going

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<v Speaker 8>down the country road. The same light sounded like two

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<v Speaker 8>blocks in front of us, right through the trees. That

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<v Speaker 8>hit the ground and sparked like like you know, electricity

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<v Speaker 8>on the right side, then on the left side the highway,

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<v Speaker 8>and the third time it hit the car right on

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<v Speaker 8>the driver's side where I was sitting. It beat it

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<v Speaker 8>up like you know, mercury out of the thermometer, you know, it.

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<v Speaker 6>Beat it like oil and water, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>That consistency, and rolled right off the car. What the hell?

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<v Speaker 7>And at that time that what's.

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<v Speaker 8>Weird about it that we didn't realize this for years?

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<v Speaker 8>The street lights was going off. Now I remember the

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<v Speaker 8>first time we saw this light. The weird thing was

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<v Speaker 8>that you saw light in daylight right right, and you

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<v Speaker 8>can see you can see a street of light in daylight.

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<v Speaker 8>That was the weird to stay. But when this when

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<v Speaker 8>it happened, when we hit the car, the street light

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<v Speaker 8>was dimming, A car had its lights on the back

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<v Speaker 8>of us. I looked behind us and by the time

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<v Speaker 8>we turn around, the street was completely dark. Our head

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<v Speaker 8>lights was getting dark. We had to drive like five blocks.

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<v Speaker 8>What's going on? We got five blocks and you can

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<v Speaker 8>look back to your left you can see street lights

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<v Speaker 8>on again. And as we pull up it but by

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<v Speaker 8>this time it's nighttime.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't realize this. I don't. We don't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 7>I realized this for years.

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<v Speaker 8>My daughter said, what yelling like, y'all seen the ghosts?

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<v Speaker 8>She said, give me, kids, I'm getting ready to go

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<v Speaker 8>to bed now. That should have let us, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, let us know that ten o'clock in.

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<v Speaker 7>The morning, she's going to bed at seven o'clock at night.

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<v Speaker 8>We did not realize that for years that that had

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<v Speaker 8>taken place like that.

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<v Speaker 4>That time he last and.

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<v Speaker 8>I called boots of them? What time did we get there?

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<v Speaker 8>When we was coming from the student and he remembered.

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<v Speaker 8>And then when I told her what the barbarella? What

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<v Speaker 8>was she doing? She's going to mean that same thing,

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<v Speaker 8>I said. We never thought about that for years.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Trendy chemical substances.

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<v Speaker 8>What people about it. We had just come across the border.

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<v Speaker 8>We had just come across the border into Canada, so

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<v Speaker 8>we didn't have no trending chemical substance.

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<v Speaker 3>You have Canadian trendy chemical.

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<v Speaker 7>Had Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Really believe that we are the only beings of this

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<v Speaker 9>level in this entire galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but the fact that George Clinton's all aliens means

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<v Speaker 2>everything is perfectly correct in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I I believe everything he's saying. He thought I see

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<v Speaker 3>them before he did. He saw them.

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<v Speaker 9>They're there. Let me ask you, so, what is what

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<v Speaker 9>drew you to? I mean, you know, next to sun Ray,

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know any other black figure in music that

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<v Speaker 9>deals with oh, with the exception earth Fire, that deals

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<v Speaker 9>with afro futurism. And you know, I'll say that, And

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<v Speaker 9>I'm glad you brought it. And Hendrix, Yes, yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 9>Jimmy Andrew and the and the thing is is that

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<v Speaker 9>I'm glad you you brought up the UFO story because

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<v Speaker 9>it's like, even in preparing for this interview, I know

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<v Speaker 9>that with you with like at the time in seventy six,

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<v Speaker 9>seventy seven Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Star Wars,

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<v Speaker 9>I tried watching Star Wars. I'm famous for falling asleep

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<v Speaker 9>during Star Wars for the I'm sorry, it's just a

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<v Speaker 9>film that you know, dog, I've yet. I've seen Star Wars,

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<v Speaker 9>but I've not gotten through one.

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<v Speaker 3>Concurrent, like that's of everything.

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<v Speaker 9>But how are you able to get into because I

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<v Speaker 9>think Richard Prye once brought up the fact that, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of black people aren't into science fiction because

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<v Speaker 9>we rarely see ours, like we're not painted in the

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<v Speaker 9>future and a lot of this production. But you were

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<v Speaker 9>our vision of an Afro futurist society.

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<v Speaker 6>So what what brought that on?

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<v Speaker 9>Like what made you not just want to make people

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<v Speaker 9>shake their ass and dance like most people, Like most

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<v Speaker 9>people live in the present, I feel black music, whereas

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<v Speaker 9>you're talking about I think, I think Star Trek.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Star Trek. I was addicted to that by

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<v Speaker 8>the time I saw Star Wars. That was like a

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<v Speaker 8>cowboy and western movie that was like for kids, but

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<v Speaker 8>I liked it.

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<v Speaker 7>It was for kids, but already was into the mother Ship.

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<v Speaker 8>Theories and the sci fire that that Star Wars had

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<v Speaker 8>more stories. So I was always into that. And when

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<v Speaker 8>it came time to make a record, I want to

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<v Speaker 8>do a funk opera. When that's when we started thinking about.

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<v Speaker 8>First we did Chocolate City, and one time I saw

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<v Speaker 8>put black places where they weren't ordinarily seen. That was

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<v Speaker 8>that was the cool thing to do. So the next one,

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<v Speaker 8>I say, put them in out of space. You didn't

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<v Speaker 8>see no black people, nobody but Aurora, see was the

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<v Speaker 8>only one you saw out there.

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<v Speaker 7>But what about you see this dude out there on

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<v Speaker 7>the spaceship riding.

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<v Speaker 8>There like it's a Cadillac. That's all of a sudden, it's

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<v Speaker 8>a place to be, you know. Mothership connection, that worked,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, So then the Clones is the weirdest one.

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<v Speaker 8>Now you want the story.

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<v Speaker 7>Clones was the second one after Mothership.

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<v Speaker 8>I got on a train. I got on a train

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<v Speaker 8>in Dallas, Texas. There was a book on this train.

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<v Speaker 8>This is the first day this train is running at

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<v Speaker 8>Dallas between terminals, the very first day. The book is

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<v Speaker 8>on the on the seat. Nobody's on the plane train

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<v Speaker 8>for me. I picked up the book and Steve Swanson

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<v Speaker 8>has docked on spaceships over fifteen hundred times, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 8>but he could never get used to these trains at

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<v Speaker 8>the Dallas Airport. So I'm thinking this got something to

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<v Speaker 8>do with this train, and there, you know, so I

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<v Speaker 8>tak it. I'm reading it. I gets off the train

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<v Speaker 8>in Portland, Oregon. Every book stand that saw had the

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<v Speaker 8>book and that it was called The Clones. I thought

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<v Speaker 8>it was the way I went to the library, and

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<v Speaker 8>that's about what his cloned. And they told me it

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<v Speaker 8>was protected by the freedom of information. Now, when they

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<v Speaker 8>told me that, my whole you know, I got nosy

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<v Speaker 8>for really now I almost to know, and that's what

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<v Speaker 8>the whole Doctor Funkenstein. They gave me a book called

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<v Speaker 8>Dr Moreau. Okay, Doctor Moreau. That was the closest they

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<v Speaker 8>can give to me without you know, going on. And

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<v Speaker 8>they said I could get a book called The Charot

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<v Speaker 8>of the Gods. Already got that book. And when I

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<v Speaker 8>read that book, that was all my albums from then on.

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<v Speaker 8>Clones uh funking telekey and motivated, all of them was

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<v Speaker 8>going in that same direction of all those theories. You know.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I assure you that Smokey Robinson was not doing that.

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<v Speaker 8>What he did, know, what he used to do. He

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<v Speaker 8>used to take kids books and do all the nurses

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<v Speaker 8>on the nurse around the rap songs from them sound right.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just it was another version of that.

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<v Speaker 9>Though, speaking of which I know, I know that you

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<v Speaker 9>are a massive fan of sly Stone. I have two

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<v Speaker 9>questions about Sli and I've been you know, as of

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<v Speaker 9>this recording happyeople later birthday. You just celebrated your seventy

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<v Speaker 9>ninth birthday, and usually around your birthday time, I'll spend

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<v Speaker 9>a month while I'll do nothing but dive into the

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<v Speaker 9>p funkology of your work, so especially Quarantining.

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<v Speaker 6>I've probably watched at.

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<v Speaker 9>Least at least ten of the concerts between seventy six

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<v Speaker 9>and the mid eighties, like at least four times each.

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<v Speaker 9>I have a question though, about the p Funk Earth

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<v Speaker 9>tour now knowing what role Slide plays in your life

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<v Speaker 9>as a mentor. You you've definitely been on record about

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<v Speaker 9>how witty his songwriting was, and his and his arrangements

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<v Speaker 9>and whatnot. But you know, at that time during the

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<v Speaker 9>p Funk Earth tour, you know, the torch has definitely

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<v Speaker 9>been sort of passed and you're clearly now the alpha.

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<v Speaker 6>Or the leader.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, in nineteen seventy six, I think that's

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<v Speaker 9>when his heard you Miss Me while I'm Back album

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<v Speaker 9>was out, which you know, right creatively.

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<v Speaker 7>That he didn't do that. He didn't do that, and

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<v Speaker 7>somebody else did that.

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<v Speaker 6>I get it, I get it. I get it with

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<v Speaker 6>a wink.

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<v Speaker 9>But I want to know, how do you think that

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<v Speaker 9>was psychologically?

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<v Speaker 6>Because the thing is is that usually.

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<v Speaker 9>When you're when you're when you are a maverick of

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<v Speaker 9>that level that he will, usually you're supposed to have

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<v Speaker 9>a really good history's showing that you can have a

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<v Speaker 9>good eight to fifteen year run where you're clearly the leader,

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<v Speaker 9>like jay Z has had a fifteen to.

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<v Speaker 6>Twenty year run Prince had.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I'm gonna obsess some Prince fans as far

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<v Speaker 9>as the genius level like he's had that Street Slye. Yeah, guy,

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<v Speaker 9>I'll give him from a whole new thing to about

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<v Speaker 9>small talk. So maybe seven eight years, but clearly, in

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<v Speaker 9>nineteen seventy six, here's the person that should be a

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<v Speaker 9>maverick and he's kind of like in depth to you,

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<v Speaker 9>like he's in an opening position, and I know that

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<v Speaker 9>that was your hero. Do you think that psychologically that

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<v Speaker 9>messed with him a little bit? That it should have

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<v Speaker 9>been in reverse, like you were the new kid on

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<v Speaker 9>the block and he should have been the person that

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<v Speaker 9>should have been the episode.

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<v Speaker 8>It may have, it may have, but at that time

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<v Speaker 8>we were you know, we were doing other kind of

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<v Speaker 8>drugs into that at that time, and you didn't. You didn't,

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<v Speaker 8>you didn't have to contemplate like that.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>It was less trending for sure, you know. And it

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<v Speaker 8>was hard to actually, you know. And he was undoubtedly

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<v Speaker 8>that motherfucker. All the ship that he had done, he

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<v Speaker 8>may have felt a little bit. He'd tell you, he'd

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<v Speaker 8>tell you, in a minute, you headline this time, let

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<v Speaker 8>me headline, now you headline next week. You know it's

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<v Speaker 8>not on the stage, but just in socializing when you

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<v Speaker 8>have to be the start, he'd asked you, and let

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<v Speaker 8>me be the start right here.

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<v Speaker 7>Really, you know, you don't know, No, he's that.

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<v Speaker 8>Kind of real everybody know that you're doing letting me

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<v Speaker 8>show time here and let me look good.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know it's some funny ship.

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<v Speaker 8>Because you have to say, yeah, you can, but don't

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<v Speaker 8>do me harsh, because he can do your ass harsh

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<v Speaker 8>when he wanted. Yeah, so you have to say I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 7>Be starting next week and he left.

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<v Speaker 8>I love motherfucker to know how to get his But

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<v Speaker 8>you know.

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<v Speaker 9>First of all, I just want to clarify because the

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<v Speaker 9>thing is, this is about the fourth time you mentioned drugs.

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<v Speaker 9>But I almost feel like for you it's more of

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<v Speaker 9>an enhancer. No, but I don't see it in that.

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<v Speaker 9>David Roughing sort of doubt like.

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<v Speaker 8>Was it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was about the right.

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<v Speaker 6>I think for you it's more like a creative juice

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<v Speaker 6>thing than it was. Or either that or you just

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<v Speaker 6>hit it well.

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<v Speaker 7>I hit it well, man. I thought that I was

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<v Speaker 7>too too, but I hit it well.

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<v Speaker 8>But I was going through because I wasn't doing what

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<v Speaker 8>I wanted to be doing.

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<v Speaker 7>So I mean, I couldn't get out of that.

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<v Speaker 8>I was satisfied with my own self, but it really

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<v Speaker 8>wasn't when you look back at it. It took a

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<v Speaker 8>long time for me to just say no, let me

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<v Speaker 8>come up and do a medicaid pro Let me get

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<v Speaker 8>that and do That's hard to do when you get

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<v Speaker 8>caught up in fighting for the rights and make music

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<v Speaker 8>at the same.

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<v Speaker 7>Time, you can lose your energy.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>You can get ciphers.

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<v Speaker 9>So but let me ask I'm not advocating. I'm not advocating,

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<v Speaker 9>but let me ask you if you were let's say

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<v Speaker 9>half clear. Okay, let's say that whatever whatever you've done

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<v Speaker 9>between the stuff with Timothy Leary all the way to

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<v Speaker 9>you know, I saw the Chelsea Clinton Chelsea Clinton crack

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<v Speaker 9>pipe story.

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<v Speaker 8>Damn you you've been watching a lot of it, Dude,

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<v Speaker 8>your whole life hold on Clinton's make.

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<v Speaker 6>Especially.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, you tell the Chelsea Clinton crack pipe story?

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<v Speaker 8>Clear, clear that up? Man?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, Okay, tell the story?

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<v Speaker 7>Well which one did you?

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<v Speaker 8>So?

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<v Speaker 9>Basically, Chelsea Clinton goes to a first p funk show

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<v Speaker 9>and you know, his last name is Clinton, her last

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<v Speaker 9>name is Clinton, and they're like, hey, guys, take a

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<v Speaker 9>photo together. And George was sort of on the spot

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<v Speaker 9>and had a pipe in his hand, and he decided, yo, perfect,

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<v Speaker 9>it's not going to look cool with a crack pipe

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<v Speaker 9>next to the first daughter. So he hit it, but

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<v Speaker 9>he had to hide it by fisting the crack pipe,

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<v Speaker 9>which was burning his hand.

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<v Speaker 6>And that photos in People magazine.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, they know?

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<v Speaker 5>Did the Clintons know the real story behind?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>I just mean I just didn't know if you had

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<v Speaker 5>actually interacted with them, No, they didn't know.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't know.

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<v Speaker 8>Then her and holler Field gave me a birthday cake

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<v Speaker 8>on the stage.

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<v Speaker 10>Well wow, and while we own drugs that you actually

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<v Speaker 10>doing the bump on the the munch colar color the

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<v Speaker 10>placebo versus placebo syndrome, where like, uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that you?

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<v Speaker 3>It looked it looked pretty convincing.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it looked pretty convinced. No, I didn't do that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>I was. I was.

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<v Speaker 7>I was pantomiming, though, Okay, don't.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't even know if you know the first time

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<v Speaker 9>I ever smelled secondhand smoke?

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<v Speaker 4>What kind of.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the sea word, Oh yeah, that's your state. Yeah

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<v Speaker 6>it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a skunky type thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I walked into George's room one second and I took

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<v Speaker 9>with the second hand smoke, and I thought I was

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<v Speaker 9>going to die.

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<v Speaker 6>I ran to everyone like.

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<v Speaker 3>So how did you get clean?

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<v Speaker 6>George?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, how how did you? Because we looking at you now,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you look you yes, yeah, how did you?

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<v Speaker 3>How did you get clean? What was that process?

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<v Speaker 8>Like?

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<v Speaker 7>I got a good wife first of all, that was

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<v Speaker 7>a good help.

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<v Speaker 8>But after you know, I got sick one time, and

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<v Speaker 8>it don't take me one time to get sick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>cause I thought I was superman, I guess, but I

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<v Speaker 8>got sick one time and then I realized, damn you

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<v Speaker 8>you're seventy two years old. You seventy two seventy one rate,

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<v Speaker 8>and I said, no, you got you got a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of work to do. You get I came out. I

0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:44.000
<v Speaker 8>never looked if what you realize you have enough time

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<v Speaker 8>to rest. Been in the hospital a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 8>and you realize you have enough time and the rest.

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<v Speaker 8>It's gonna take a long time to get this ship

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<v Speaker 8>straighten out. The legal business. That's what got me going.

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<v Speaker 8>Once I started getting on the mission of trying to

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<v Speaker 8>get my legal business, I started thinking about the airs

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<v Speaker 8>and who I'm gonna leave, what I'm gonna leave. I

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<v Speaker 8>got to get these copyrights straight So from then on

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<v Speaker 8>that took up all my energy. And once I did that,

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<v Speaker 8>I started feeling good about myself. And then when I

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<v Speaker 8>started making records again, like I said, shake the Gate

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<v Speaker 8>and I wrote the book, all of those was part

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<v Speaker 8>of my plan to be on this movement until I

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<v Speaker 8>get the copyrights back, And that started feeling like nineteen

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<v Speaker 8>seventy five again. When I started that. You know, when

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<v Speaker 8>I Midigate Fraud, I was really really proud of that album.

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<v Speaker 10>Noord it was yeah, just the fact that it was

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<v Speaker 10>we got a new album from you, and it sounded current,

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<v Speaker 10>but it didn't sound like you were pandering, like trying

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<v Speaker 10>to do it kids, trying to catch up.

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<v Speaker 3>There it was, but it was still you.

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<v Speaker 8>That was the hard thing, the balance that being up

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<v Speaker 8>to you know today and what we were about. But

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<v Speaker 8>I had my grandkids in the group, so they know,

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<v Speaker 8>they know what's going on today, they know what was

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<v Speaker 8>going on with us. So they helped me bridge the

0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.159
<v Speaker 8>things and I can put the concepts in it, and

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<v Speaker 8>they helped me bridge it with their friends, you know,

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.280
<v Speaker 8>and we got such a crew now they was killing

0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 8>before the pandemic thing happened. We just playing with the

0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:33.119
<v Speaker 8>Chili Peppers. Ninety thousand people in Australia and it was

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<v Speaker 8>like damn, it was like the mothership was landing. And

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<v Speaker 8>that happened for a whole year and a half. For

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<v Speaker 8>the last two years.

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<v Speaker 10>I was going to ask you about producing the Chili Peppers,

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<v Speaker 10>because you produced them, how did you.

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<v Speaker 3>Land Bricky Styly? Yeah, and the party plant.

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<v Speaker 8>They were they were you know, they wanted to be

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<v Speaker 8>Funky Deli. They you know, they put their work in

0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.560
<v Speaker 8>so it's easy to work with them. You know, they

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<v Speaker 8>was already for Caadelic fans and they knew what they

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<v Speaker 8>wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 7>But they wanted to do it punk. They wasn't trying

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<v Speaker 7>to be sick.

0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 8>They could actually play slick music, but they went out

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.920
<v Speaker 8>of their way. They played some really good they make

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.200
<v Speaker 8>erase it. They wanted it to sound like punk. They

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.080
<v Speaker 8>was kind of like Garcia them, you know, they didn't

0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.200
<v Speaker 8>want to learn it no better. I mean, plead them.

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<v Speaker 8>They actually like jazz music, right, They wasn't trying to

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 8>play it, you know what I mean, Hey, hello, he

0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.720
<v Speaker 8>could actually really play, but he went out of his wave.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he went out of his way to No, you.

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<v Speaker 8>Ain't saving that ship.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't get my question out because we got sidetracked by.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you please tell us? Can you please tell us

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<v Speaker 6>the David ruffin Sly story.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a precursor to Clinton story.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, just the question is commercial for quest of Supreme enough.

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<v Speaker 7>That that was the fun of me.

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<v Speaker 8>That's that's that's some superstar drug stuff there. You know,

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.640
<v Speaker 8>once you once you've been a star and you're down,

0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.680
<v Speaker 8>you don't realize that you're a star no more.

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<v Speaker 7>Especially if you drank your drugs.

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<v Speaker 8>And and I felt that we was a typical, the

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<v Speaker 8>three of us was a typical of that particular thing

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:29.600
<v Speaker 8>at that time. We was going to see a friend

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<v Speaker 8>of mine who's the dealer who loved us, who will

0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 8>give us anything we wanted, and so we just had

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 8>to like play cool and let him do anything. But

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<v Speaker 8>David wasn't in and no, you know, moved to be

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 8>being nice to him. He was, he was, he was

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:49.120
<v Speaker 8>still a temptation, but he.

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<v Speaker 6>Wasn't in his mind right.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, So we tried to get him not

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:59.560
<v Speaker 8>to ruin it so we don't get out dope, and

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<v Speaker 8>he's like.

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<v Speaker 7>And slide trying to He's trying to referee, telling them no,

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 7>George gotta he's right there.

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<v Speaker 8>You got to listen to the juge, I said, boy,

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<v Speaker 8>if you could, we had a picture of the three

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 8>of us here trying to do this. You know, this

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 8>is a funny ship. I don't think it's a funny, man,

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 8>Let's go get the ship.

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<v Speaker 6>Fuck it.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like the scene in Boogie Knights with the fire.

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<v Speaker 6>I know exactly what that is. This the story with

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<v Speaker 6>the real to real tape with Sly.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh no, no, that's.

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<v Speaker 6>No, that's another story. Thought, this is the whole story. No, no,

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 6>that's I meant the real tape.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, oh man, No, that's the dope dealer that he

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:44.680
<v Speaker 8>had the dope dealing.

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<v Speaker 7>He the I'm gonna let you keep my real.

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<v Speaker 8>This is real to my album. Give me some dope

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 8>one credit, you can hold the album. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 8>nothing on the reel. So we do that a couple

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:01.640
<v Speaker 8>of times.

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 7>But I'm getting scared. I'm getting scared.

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 8>So you know, I said, no, I don't ain't nothing

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 8>on the tape. Man, I tell the dude, ain't nothing

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 8>on the tape.

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 7>It ain't nothing tape.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. So I mean this, after we did it two

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 8>or three times, the dude tell me, don't you have

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 8>to love him? Don't you just love him? Nobody was

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 8>getting mad at nobody can get mad at it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that it must be a metal not for nothing.

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 4>And I said this to Bootsy too.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, y'all are like medical marvels, Like not

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 5>only do you look the way you do, but you

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<v Speaker 5>also your memories are like perfectly intact, Like what.

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<v Speaker 8>Did you I understanding because he reminded me of I forgot.

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<v Speaker 7>I put all this sh in the book.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but the words you was like, oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>know what you're talking about, like it was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I forget. Yeah, yeah, that was

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:52.640
<v Speaker 7>some funny ship.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, what is your question?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 10>I was just going to ask you of all the

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<v Speaker 10>just the lyrics that you've written. You know, you were

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 10>a big inspiration to me as a as an MC

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 10>because you would have just all these amazing plays on

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 10>words and these puns and you know, this fishtail begins

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 10>with most fishtails in like all that stuff.

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 3>You just did really inventive stuff with language.

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<v Speaker 10>And I just always wondered, did you have like a

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 10>journal that you would write this stuff in or would

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 10>it all just be off the top. What was just

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.400
<v Speaker 10>the writing process for your lyrics like I had?

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:33.199
<v Speaker 8>People would probably you know the band members the keen Up.

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:38.159
<v Speaker 8>Anytime you heard me say something or laugh and I

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 8>hear something and I repeat it, he would write it

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 8>down and all I have to do is say it,

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 8>and he would in the studio.

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 7>When I get ready to go in the student, he

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 7>just give me.

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 8>A list of things that have nothing to do with

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 8>each other that I said, and and then we get

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 8>a concept. We didn't start throwing puns at it and

0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 8>using like I said, using the little smokey Robinson of

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 8>you know, pun on top of pun, but.

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 7>We had two more to it to make it absurd.

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 8>You know, we use synonyms, antonyms or harmonyms, it didn't matter.

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.360
<v Speaker 8>We just used all of it. If it sounds the same,

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 8>we throw it in there. And and we can actually

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 8>get especially with Bootsy, we could say anything the boots

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 8>and if he said in that boy, you know, it would.

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 7>Actually work, you know, like.

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 6>Be my beach right.

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 8>You know he says some of the stupidest stuff and

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 8>the dumber it was the funny it was if you

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 8>said it because he had that overtone like Jimmy and the.

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 7>Whole walking on your boat.

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 6>And I had and all that stuff.

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, oh my god.

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 6>So is he making that up at the microphone? Is

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 6>there's just a list of We've been feeding it.

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.479
<v Speaker 7>To him in his boom.

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 8>We just said to him and he said after so

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.679
<v Speaker 8>he laying if the knick a bill was fun, but

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 8>I would be doing it to Boogie, would be doing

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 8>it to And once we got a concept, we can

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 8>just say anything. Now a song like Ryan Stone Rockstump

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 8>Monster with Dub Baby Babba, I would write those parts

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 8>all the reality.

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 6>I asked him this question.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 9>Now I got to ask you probably you know in

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.919
<v Speaker 9>the history of all the songs that you've written. I

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 9>don't think that to be alive in nineteen seventy eight

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 9>when that song was that its most popular. I've never

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 9>seen it, and I was seven years old at the time.

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 9>But if a seven year old knows that song, then

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 9>you know it's something. Why did you guys just not

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 9>call that song wind me Up? Could have just called

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 9>it wind me Up? It took me good to find

0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 9>it because I didn't know what Bootzilla was, Like, why

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 9>did y'all not.

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 6>Call it wind me up?

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 8>He was a rock star monster for doll Baby.

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 7>That was a that was a toy.

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 8>That was a toy called boot Billy made by to

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 8>make us the funky things to play with. That was

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 8>a whole concept.

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 9>You want to as a toy, but not as the

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 9>as the hook.

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 8>Okay, no, no, the toy.

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 7>But then he got scared. I forgot if we got

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 7>so big.

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 8>I told him, it's gonna be hard to live up

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 8>to this, you know, So don't don't equate yourself with

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 8>being this character, because way it's way bigger than you're

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 8>gonna possibly because we was on a roll then I

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 8>had done it with we love to funk you funking

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 8>style and said you can talk about yourself and not

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 8>believe it. The main thing is, don't need this ship

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 8>because if it works, you're gonna be in a hell.

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 7>Of a whose position to try to live up to it.

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 7>Just do it and even long. And that was hard for.

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 8>Him because, like I told him, the boots got bigger,

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 8>the glasses got bigger, everything get bigger till this too

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 8>heavy to carry?

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 9>Part two of this question. Part two of this question.

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 9>Do you think part of him kind of wanted to

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 9>sabotage this boot was made for funking because that album

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 9>was the complete opposite.

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 8>Oh that's when that's when he went out.

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's what he Definitely he wanted to control and

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 7>I let him.

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 8>Have control him of that album.

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 7>It was it was different, though he wasn't.

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 9>The same, Yeah, but the thing was it was so

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 9>like ah, I always wanted to Like I listened to it.

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 9>I appreciate it now forty years after the fact, but

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 9>back then it was I was like, wait, something's different

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 9>about this record than the other three?

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 7>And what did he say?

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 8>No?

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 9>No, no, I mean I never asked him about it,

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 9>but I think as I got older, I was thinking

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 9>like there was a point where Boots he could have

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 9>actually overshadowed the entire p funk.

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 6>He chose not to.

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 8>He had started, we had started to let him headline

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 8>the shows. That's when it had got to that point,

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 8>the way he was that you know, at the time

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 8>when they scared him, he answers scared of him, he

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 8>got shingles. That's when he got this tingle on his

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 8>very first date by himself. But at the same time,

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 8>you know, we had the political business of the trolls

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 8>was entering the picture trying to tear the part, and

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 8>it was getting too big. There wasn't gonna be another motown.

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 8>The industry had made up them out. There was not

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 8>gonna be another motown and we were at that level

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 8>to that was beginning to be. You know, after we

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 8>get Uncle Lami, they at was gonna have a Shaka

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 8>and Larry because all of us was together by then.

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, right, you're on the same label. I forgot that.

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 9>Speaking of clones, always wanted to know what were your

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 9>thoughts on all of the p funk music that didn't

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 9>come from the p funk camp that was obviously so

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 9>derivative of the p funk sound. And I'm talking about

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 9>I'm talking about gat Band, I'm talking about joy Stick

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 9>by George George. I mean, the thing is that you

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 9>scared us that really really Yeah.

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 8>I told you you know your you know your thing

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 8>that one close, reach for it, reach for it. Yes, yeah, I.

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 7>Said, damn, did you steak up and do a record

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 7>with them or something?

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 8>I felt like it was gonna get me to be

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.719
<v Speaker 8>a genre I wanted it to be.

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 7>You know, especially Ohio Players.

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.479
<v Speaker 8>They were like that. They were like one of the

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 8>punkiest ones, you know, but them and then Prince you

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 8>know him, like Stevie, they was inclined to do pop music,

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 8>but they could be punky as all hell, you know,

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 8>and you know, they just knew that they could get

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 8>away with doing the pop music and that's where you know,

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 8>the money was at.

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 7>Or you could do wide a variety of songs.

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 8>But all of them, Prince and Jimmy Jam at the time,

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 8>all of them that was funky Rick then all of

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 8>them was beginning to be, you know, a funk Gendre

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 8>Irwin and Fire was popping at first, but then they

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 8>started embracing it as funk after a while.

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 9>You know, we asked Philip Bailey, what was his thoughts

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 9>on Let's Take It to the Stage.

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 6>He said he'd never heard of it. Philip Billy said,

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 6>he we played Let's Take It to the Stage room.

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 6>He had no.

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:06.959
<v Speaker 9>Clue that he was being, uh, this record sort of not.

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 9>I took it his plateful ribbing. Yeah, did anyone did

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 9>any of those groups ever try to approach you? You

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 9>know snoofists and slipping the flamily bricks and smooth crazy

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 9>say that's fucked up?

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 8>You see? Was cool?

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 6>That was?

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 7>You know, No, nobody never said that.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 8>It was you know, only people we mentioned with people

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 8>that we like, you know, And I think that's what

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 8>a lot of the people to the distant thing when

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 8>they started dissing each other.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 7>That was like playing the dozens when I was.

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 8>In school, and you start getting paid for it. You know,

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 8>that's what you know, a jail house rhyming. You know,

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 8>Once that became pop, once that became the music. Okay,

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 8>I saw that that that makes sense, especially when I

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 8>heard somebody like rock Kim.

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 7>You know, that's just like, damn, you can do it.

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 7>That's fucking good.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 8>And then I didn't realize we had mother right there.

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 8>In our town, eminem. He was fifteen years old and

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 8>we didn't even.

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.919
<v Speaker 7>Pay attention to him. He was like slimy shady.

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 8>On our ass, and we knew him. We knew he

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 8>was bad, but we had no idea that mother was

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:25.320
<v Speaker 8>all bad. We knew he was bad, but we watched

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 8>him just like right, not knows raining the studio?

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 9>Right while we're there, can you tell us a print

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 9>story that we don't know?

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 6>You? You weren't probably you were.

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 8>For before we got on Pasty. He sent me a tape.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 7>He sent me a.

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 8>Tape he wanted me to work on. He sent it

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 8>to the and so we told him we didn't want

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 8>to be responsible for the tape. Send it to the

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 8>studio the engineer. Let the engineer get it set up.

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 8>I would go in there and do a do a party.

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 8>I ain't trusted, you know, doing nothing with his you know,

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 8>his tape. I'm gonna go be responsible. So we get

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 8>to the studio and I'm getting ready to put my

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 8>part on it.

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 7>And it was called cookie Jar.

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 8>Oh okay, we had already did a cookie job, but

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:17.919
<v Speaker 8>it was different than that.

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 7>The engineer put the tape on backward.

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 8>You know how you roll the tape off back when

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 8>some people roll the tape off tail tail out, and

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 8>so when he put it on, he tried to clean

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 8>the tape to get him some you know, clean the

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 8>tape is to get him some clean, some space. But

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 8>it was tail out. He raised half of the song

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 8>on the tail end of the song. So I gets

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 8>to the studio and he's looking wild and scary, and.

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't even go in the studio.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 8>I said, I'm not going I'm not even going in.

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 8>I want this to be I was not. Yeah, I

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.439
<v Speaker 8>had nothing to do, but this is the first time

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 8>I had interaction with him, you know, and I know

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 8>you know, I would have got blamed all of that.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 8>So I'm not going in there y'all and telling what

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 8>happened and let.

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 7>Him know that I was nowhere near.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 6>Oh my god. And hopefully.

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 8>No, they never they never got a chance to do

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:29.760
<v Speaker 8>it again. We heard the beginning of it was good,

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 8>but about a minute it happened to the song that

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 8>goes blank, and that was the only one he had

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 8>of it.

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Man, damn, I'm glad.

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 6>I let's let's prow some water out for that.

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 3>That's not the story you wanted to hear.

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 10>Okay, did did he ever play you when you did

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 10>We Can Funk for Graffiti Bridge?

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Did he ever play you the original We Can Funk?

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 8>Uh?

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Huh?

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:01.479
<v Speaker 6>He did?

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 8>Well?

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I liked it.

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 8>I like that that that and so psychedelic side, both

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 8>of those he played me both of those.

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he told us that.

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 8>He told us to go crazy on it and and

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 8>do you know what we do in me and Gary

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 8>just with the lunch on it, and then he mixed

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 8>them both together.

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 7>Have you heard the long vision?

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:26.879
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 6>I got it?

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, ah for y'all crazy.

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 6>Actually, you know what I was shocked.

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 9>What's weird is that you're technically the Weekend Funk that

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 9>you're on on Graffiti Bridge is technically the base of

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 9>it is still the eighty four version, which to me

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 9>speaks more of how far I've headed Prince's time.

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.320
<v Speaker 6>Prince was the fact.

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 9>That he could send you a real that he worked

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:07.479
<v Speaker 9>on probably in nineteen eighty three, and it still works

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:14.919
<v Speaker 9>for nineteen ninety and you know, still works thirty five

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 9>years after that fact, you know, I mean once once

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 9>it was finally released back in twenty and seventeen, it

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 9>still sounds, you know, fresh and right.

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 8>Have you ever. Have you ever heard of Paradigm?

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 6>No?

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 7>No, wow, you didn't.

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 6>I've not heard of that.

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 7>Check that one out him and just him and myself.

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 6>Really, Okay, it's on.

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 8>It's one of my records.

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 6>Okay, this is not with TCL is on it right?

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 7>No, no, no, not that, it's not.

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 6>No tcl's jokes.

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 7>No, but.

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 8>It's on how late I think.

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 6>You know what it is? It is? It is? I

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 6>did hear it.

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 9>I heard it, and it was It came out in

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 9>ninety six, ninety.

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 8>Seven, I think no, no, no, no, it came out

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 8>in two thousand.

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 9>There is There is a song that while we were

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.720
<v Speaker 9>still working on Voodoo, you sent D'Angelo.

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:31.360
<v Speaker 6>So it was like ninety eight ninety nine. It was

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 6>a CD.

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 9>It was a cassette that he played us. I don't

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 9>know when it came out, but you sent a song

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:41.760
<v Speaker 9>to him that was you and Prince and I think

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 9>the vocals were various feeded to sound cartoonist.

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 6>There is I don't know who the title of the

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 6>song was.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 8>Check it. Check out this google paradigm.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 6>Okay, I will do that.

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 8>Uh.

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 10>I wanted to ask you a question about the brides

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 10>of Funkenstein and how you came up with the concept

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 10>to put them together the song Bertie is just I

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 10>love that damn song. What was the what was the

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 10>concept of putting them together and then versus what in

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 10>your mind as a producer was going to be the

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.720
<v Speaker 10>difference between them versus parlay?

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:22.919
<v Speaker 7>Okay, and that took that we did.

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 8>Neil Bogart asked for a group after we were successful

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 8>at Cattle Blanka, and so we gave gave him the.

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 7>The Brides of Funkenstein.

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 8>That was kind of that was dark for him, you know,

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 8>he was bubblegummy. He thought that was a dog. He

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.800
<v Speaker 8>wanted something really simple, the grass Parlet.

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 7>So we took those two.

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 8>Girls, Lynn and Dawn and gave them to Atlantic. We

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:57.240
<v Speaker 8>did the whole album and that album was actually done

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 8>for Julia Phillips. She did Close k Counters, the girl

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 8>that produced Director there. She she wanted a disco version

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 8>of Remember they were doing soundtracks of all the shows,

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 8>all the big so she wanted a version of that.

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 8>So we did a Warship two shot for for you know,

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 8>for her, and we were gonna give it to Neil. Neil

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 8>wanted to pop. He wanted Partlett, so we gave that

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 8>record to Atlantic and then we did partlet for for

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 8>you know, cats a Blanca. That's how we end up

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.280
<v Speaker 8>with the two girl groups.

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 3>So gotcha?

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 6>Was Neil a traditional label head?

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:44.439
<v Speaker 9>I meant like, yeah, all right, But I'm saying, though,

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 9>are you going to him plan uh do that stuff?

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 6>And he has an opinion on.

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 3>It or is record?

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 9>Give me a three minutes and thirty second version of

0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:58.879
<v Speaker 9>You're Fish and I'm a Water.

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 6>Now, he's not just letting you do what you want.

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 8>He pretty much let us do what he wants. But

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 8>he but he do that and in the beginning he

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 8>knew what kind of group he want. Once we got there,

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 8>we could do what we wanted with him. But he

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 8>was so good at being a record man that you

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.439
<v Speaker 8>tried to give him what he wanted, you know, because

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 8>you know he's going to put everything in the world

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 8>behind promoting it. When I said I wanted the spaceship,

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 8>he just got me a bank and they and they

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 8>got together and they I was able to get the spaceship.

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 8>He was on Cameo Parkway, he was you know, so

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 8>he was from that school of records. He knew how

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 8>to do from the cameo Parkway version.

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 7>Then Buddha.

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 8>He was like God.

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 7>He was like the bubblegum king.

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 8>So by the time he got the Castle Blanker, he

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 8>was getting this shot.

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 7>He could do pretty much what he wanted, and he

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 7>did it.

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 8>He was a real record man that spent everything on promotion.

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 7>He was a promotion man.

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 8>That's why I liked and I knew I could do

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 8>a concept called mother Ship or you know, and even

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 8>give me the prompts that I need to, you know,

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 8>to promote the record.

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 7>He understood that.

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 9>I should have asked this question at the beginning, because

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.479
<v Speaker 9>you're the You're the you're the you're the north star

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 9>of this whole stratosphere. But how taxing is it two

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:36.320
<v Speaker 9>maintain personalities and deal with business because you're you're dealing

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 9>with over twelve groups and.

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Across like three or four different labels.

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's everyone has their record deal and you know,

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 9>you gotta you.

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:49.320
<v Speaker 10>Know, calim and Funcadela was the original w Tang.

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 3>George. George was the original.

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 6>So how how are you maintaining.

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 9>You know, at this member and that that member makes

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 9>your payroll gets in time.

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 6>And we left that at out at the bus.

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 9>Station and getting getting to the gigs on time, and

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 9>one of the light rigs went out, or the drummer

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 9>someone of the o d backstage like, how are you.

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 6>You gotta deal? You got to be everyone's father and collaborator.

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 4>And and still be free.

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 7>And go on get on drugs and go on to

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 7>your wife?

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 8>Right?

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 6>How not? How? But why? Why would you ever want

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 6>to do that to yourself?

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:38.240
<v Speaker 7>That was my mission?

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 8>That's my mission. I mean, that's I started this at thirteen,

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 8>and I wanted to be that, you know in this business,

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 8>and I never changed them. When I got motown with

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 8>my aspiration Bill spectrum of my aspiration, Jimmy Hendrix my aspiration,

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 8>you know, and then whoever else come in and.

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 7>Do it hard that becomes my aspiration.

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 8>When I hit Slide, that was my Beatles turned me

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 8>completely to pug out. That's what. Oh my god, I

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:15.760
<v Speaker 8>wanted to a funk opera once I sawd Sergeant Pepper.

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 8>You know from a songwriter standpoint that that was impeccable.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 8>You know, when the lyrics was nonsensical and but melodic

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 8>instill you had a mother doing arrangement like big band

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 8>arrangement on a rock and roll band.

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 7>They had a concept that worked. Cream.

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 8>All of those things influenced me.

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 6>So are there other genres?

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 9>Are there other genres of music that we don't know

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 9>that you're into?

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 6>Like how big is your jazz?

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 7>But Go Go, Go Go Go?

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 4>What I was about to ask about your relationship with DC, because.

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 8>Go Go Go Go Go Go just had it a

0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 8>little harder than funk me because Go Go is uh

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 8>go Go is religious.

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 7>They don't want that to get out of d C.

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 8>No, No, I mean the d C people wanted to

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:12.879
<v Speaker 8>get out, But I'm saying that industry don't. That's that's

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 8>something that's some that's some other kind of uga. We

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 8>call it uga booga. You know that. I mean that works.

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 8>I don't care how big a star, but Go Go

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 8>band get up on stage before you. You measine that.

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:30.760
<v Speaker 7>You better hope they don't play your record Go Go.

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 8>Better than you. Okay, I didn't see that happen. No men, Chuck,

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 8>Me and Chucks we worked together before he was calling

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 8>it Go Go. One of his first songs that he

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 8>did was I don't care about the COVID when you're

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 8>hot too much? When you're hot, your hot. Tiki was

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 8>playing with us then and played there with them, and

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 8>that was they grew for years before they became, you know,

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 8>a go go band, the Soul Search you.

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 6>You know what.

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 9>There's there's an interview that I heard from you in

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:08.720
<v Speaker 9>nineteen eighty.

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 6>I think this is when.

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:17.280
<v Speaker 9>Nineteen eighty what's out, Oh, Parliament's Tumbipulation.

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 6>You did a month long residency.

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 9>I think you were promoting during a month long residency

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:25.720
<v Speaker 9>at the Apollo Theater.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we kept up.

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 7>We kept the theater open. They was getting ready to

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 7>close it down.

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was gonna say, could you talk about how

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 6>does one do a month long residency at the.

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 8>Power We needed someplace to rehearse the new theatrical show

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 8>called Popsicle Stick that was a Trumpipulation album, and we

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 8>needed someplace to rehearse the pelap papers with us. That's

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:52.760
<v Speaker 8>when he was Uncle Jam's army, So we needed someplace

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:54.280
<v Speaker 8>to rehearse, and they.

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 7>Needed to keep the theater open.

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 8>Because they was getting ready to tear it down. We

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 8>did a stunt there. Bob Marley played there after us

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 8>and James Brown played up there, and that we kept

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 8>it open. Froze our ass off because they didn't have

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 8>no heat in.

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 6>I was what I say.

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.359
<v Speaker 9>Now, now it's nice and furnished, and yeah, it's really

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 9>no more rats.

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 6>But back in nineteen eighty, what was it that was

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 6>the labor of love? Was it?

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 8>It was almost it was almost closed it And like

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.760
<v Speaker 8>I said, it was we hadn't been opened that much.

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.839
<v Speaker 8>And I forget the people who owned it at the time.

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 8>There was some hustlers. There was some hustlers on it,

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 8>but they kept it alive.

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.839
<v Speaker 6>I'm rappid fire now, I got it. I'm headed back

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 6>to the sixties. Is it true?

0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:41.840
<v Speaker 9>I heard a rumor that you are one of the

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.280
<v Speaker 9>background singers on Barbara Lewis's Hello Stranger.

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 6>No, that's not you.

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 8>No, okay, I always loved I always loved that song.

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 8>Pat Lewis a friend.

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:57.439
<v Speaker 7>Of mine who's pretty much singing on everything I did.

0:48:58.440 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 8>She was one of the hot button soul.

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, she's saying on all of them, Dion Jackson and

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 11>Barbara Lewis, all of those songs that sounded like smoky.

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, okay. I asked you this when I was

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 6>doing the DJ set. So're you're telling.

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 9>Me that some random guy came up to you and said,

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 9>I can play guitar. Pretty good if you give me

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 9>twenty five bucks and just for kicks, you decided to

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 9>let him see what would happen?

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that takes a lot of nerd and takes a

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 8>lot of nerd.

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 7>And so that first.

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 9>Note that he hit on, get off your ass and

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 9>jam is him.

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 6>That's shrill.

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, wow, that is my favorite shrill noise of all time.

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 8>He kept our attention from that's real all the way

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:53.360
<v Speaker 8>to the song with Phinney's.

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 6>So, is that you guys acting?

0:49:56.040 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 9>Is that you guys reacting to him as you because

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 9>you hear either, I don't.

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 6>Know if it's lin Marbury said, god like like you hear.

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's almost in sample ology. Yeah, that her reaction

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 9>is almost.

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 6>As much as a sample. That's what he was playing.

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:20.880
<v Speaker 6>So you guys are laughing at what you're hearing, and

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 6>literally it just all went down at once. Ship. The

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 6>song wasn't written beforehand.

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, all right, play anything, Yeah, no, just

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:30.879
<v Speaker 3>a track.

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:33.800
<v Speaker 8>We didn't ship. God damn.

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 7>I didn't want to get in the way of that.

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 7>That's why I made it so simple. You know, don't

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.800
<v Speaker 7>say nothing, just ship goddamn, get off your hand.

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:45.320
<v Speaker 6>And then he left and you never heard from him again.

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 8>We wanted to talk to him because I gave him

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 8>fifty dollars.

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 7>I wanted to give you more, man.

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 10>I wanted to ask you about your work with Outcasts

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 10>and the Dungeon family because they were certainly you know,

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 10>a fruit, you know from your tree, you know, something

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 10>from the p Funk family, And you did a synthesizer

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 10>on uh on stan Conia. But then you also did

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 10>another record wasn't as well known, but I loved it.

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 10>It was called Black Mermaid, but it was on the

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:16.040
<v Speaker 10>Society Soul Out. Yeah, do you remember anything about those sessions?

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:20.360
<v Speaker 8>And I was like, I'm like, they reminded me of Parliament,

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 8>Funk and del too, because all of them were the outcast,

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 8>Dungeon Family and Goodie Mob. They was all together at

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 8>that time and they hadn't separated into those so I

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 8>didn't know who the record was going to be, you know,

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 8>but all Sleepy and all of them, big Boy and

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 8>all of them, they were, you know, they just come

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 8>down the dark.

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 8>I stayed I pretty much lived in dark, you know,

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 8>under Dallas from the Climax things, and so that was

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 8>like I love that. My part time in.

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 7>Atlanta Yeah, that old old Dungeon family. They had a

0:51:59.120 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 7>bunch of good song.

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:04.759
<v Speaker 10>How did you get up with? I was going with

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.760
<v Speaker 10>more King of your hip hop cribs. You and Kendrick

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 10>Lamar on Pimper Butterfly? How did that come about?

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 8>One of my grandkids said that he wanted to do

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 8>a song with me and that I should do it

0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 8>with him, and he was he talked the same ship

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 8>that I told. He knew what that meant. But when

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 8>I met him, he was He's a smart kid. God damn.

0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 8>I mean, you know, he.

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 7>Went to school and he's still had the street thing.

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 8>You know. He was like well aware, you know, and

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 8>I know most of the people from Compton, you know,

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 8>and he was here was a whole nother energy from

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 8>that and he's really he put he put work in

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 8>your mind, you of like you like Beyonce, like Prince,

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 8>They put work in, Like Michael Jackson put work in.

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.759
<v Speaker 8>He's another one of those people that that put the

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:56.359
<v Speaker 8>work in.

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 9>Did you say at one point you had the babysit

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 9>the jack when you were I don't know if I

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 9>heard that right. You were a staff writer at Motown, and.

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:12.359
<v Speaker 8>No, I would saying baby said it was Carrie Gordy.

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:14.839
<v Speaker 6>Oh, okay, carry who was.

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 8>When they were when they were yeah Carrie, Yeah, when

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 8>they lived in New York. When when we worked at

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:22.720
<v Speaker 8>the Brill Building.

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:25.760
<v Speaker 6>Oh Carrie Gordon, Wait, you worked at the Brill Building.

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 8>I worked at the Brill Building sixty two three.

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:31.520
<v Speaker 6>What was that like?

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 8>Joe Joe Joe Bett was there. I did not know

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 8>that Joe Bett was on the ninth floor.

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.439
<v Speaker 9>I never knew that till you were running to Carol

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:46.400
<v Speaker 9>King and Niel said, Terry Goffin, Yeah all of that.

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 6>Dude, no one you saw. No wonder your lyric game

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 6>is so tight.

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:55.640
<v Speaker 8>No, I would don Kirshner, Jesus.

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 6>Christ cold pits. Really you ever hear?

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:00.680
<v Speaker 8>Jean Red?

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 6>Yes, cool in the game.

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 8>Jean Red cool. Okay, yeah, Jean Red, Cecil Holmes, Buzzy Willis.

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 8>We all worked together before they went to work with

0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:15.439
<v Speaker 8>Neil Bogat that Boodha. We all worked for Jean Red.

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 8>He did cool in the Gang, the Soul Sisters, and

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 8>there's and Charlie Fox.

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 7>Jean Jean was that one. That's Penny Ford's.

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:28.400
<v Speaker 9>Brother, Penny four formerly a Snap And yeah, that's her brother,

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:29.399
<v Speaker 9>well of.

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 6>Her own Rights. She used to be on Told Experienced Records.

0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:37.040
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, she's she's on our album too.

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 6>Wait when did she joined? When did Penny four join?

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:44.440
<v Speaker 8>She was on one of my albums. She's on the

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 8>on the Paisty Park album.

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 4>Really yeah, this is I got the power voice.

0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:51.879
<v Speaker 7>Yes, that's her, I got the one.

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:53.800
<v Speaker 8>That's her.

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 6>You know you know everything we were talking about. You

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 6>just don't know.

0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:02.400
<v Speaker 9>Okay, okay, this is the This is another question I

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:07.720
<v Speaker 9>had in reflection. The Chronic Man was such a flag

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 9>planting album of your legacy. You damn near produced it yourself.

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 9>Why have Why have you and Doctor Dre? Like and

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 9>listening to it? I was like, Yo, why hasn't George

0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 9>and Doctor Dre just made an album together? Because he

0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:34.280
<v Speaker 9>clearly made The Chronic as an audition love letter to you.

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:37.879
<v Speaker 7>I would like to see that happen too.

0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:40.359
<v Speaker 8>I worked with Cube and Snoop too.

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 7>Snoop all the time.

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 8>You know what I'm saying.

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:48.000
<v Speaker 6>But you know, have you have you and Dre ever

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:49.760
<v Speaker 6>talked about Hey, let's.

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 8>Get the We never we never had a chance to

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 8>kick it, you know, we just state no, we.

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Haven't make it happen to me?

0:55:58.680 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 6>We got to make that happen.

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:03.240
<v Speaker 7>Make it happen, man, I would love.

0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 8>To do that.

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:05.360
<v Speaker 6>Jesus Christ.

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:11.360
<v Speaker 9>Men, it's such a captain obvious moment.

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Wow, heat the bridge, manat the bridge.

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 6>I'll beat the bridge three questions and then I'll stop.

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:20.160
<v Speaker 4>Can I ask a dumb question before you ask your

0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:20.799
<v Speaker 4>real smart one?

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 6>There's no such thing as as dumb questions.

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 4>Because I know he's answered it. But I just wanted to.

0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 5>I just want to, really wanted to know what was

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:30.280
<v Speaker 5>what the you mentioned your life changed with the copyright

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:32.319
<v Speaker 5>stuff and everything, but visually, when did.

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:32.879
<v Speaker 4>Your life change?

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 5>Because I feel like I saw you on at the

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:37.880
<v Speaker 5>Roost jam in La like years and years ago, but

0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 5>that was the first time I saw you in a

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:40.720
<v Speaker 5>suit with the hat looking fine.

0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:44.920
<v Speaker 6>I thought it was I thought it was tik Yo.

0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 6>When he walked in the door, I was like, wait,

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 6>teress wearing a suit.

0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:54.879
<v Speaker 9>Oh my god, that's George clad some real ship.

0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I had to. I had to go through that

0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:00.280
<v Speaker 8>period for a minute, a minute, you know, justice playing

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.320
<v Speaker 8>up for a second. But then as soon as I

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 8>did that, C told me that man put the costume

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:08.840
<v Speaker 8>back on. That what made you do it?

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 4>Because you what made you do it period in the

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 4>first place.

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm just figured it it's time to change again.

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 8>I've been changing people that you know.

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 7>I think it's a new dude.

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 5>They did, Yeah, we did, Okay, Okay.

0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 9>I have a question about the twenty grand in Detroit.

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 9>Is there any truth to the rumor that you yep?

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:39.439
<v Speaker 6>I did question out yet?

0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:44.000
<v Speaker 9>Is there any truth to the rumor that you got

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:51.520
<v Speaker 9>butt naked? Yep, I need question out answerest Gary Gordy's

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 9>table or Dina Ross's table.

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 7>I didn't pee, I didn't.

0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 6>I heard that, Okay.

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 7>I just I pulled wine. I pulled wine on my

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 7>on my.

0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:07.600
<v Speaker 8>Head, it dripped down my body, so it appeared that

0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:08.760
<v Speaker 8>I peed on the drink.

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:13.919
<v Speaker 9>I can't even imagine Barry Gordy and Dinah Ross at

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 9>a Funkadelic shell.

0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:21.440
<v Speaker 8>They used to call it slumming when whenever we was

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 8>at twenty grad you put on your jeans with holes

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 8>in them and patches that said fuck you, and you

0:58:27.840 --> 0:58:30.720
<v Speaker 8>go slumming them with pefo. That was the thing.

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 7>They have mink song and jeans with holes.

0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 8>And they would be they would be coming down to

0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 8>get funky.

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 9>But the thing is is that Hendricks could not sit.

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:45.240
<v Speaker 9>I mean, who knows if he would have finally broken

0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 9>through the other side had he lived. How are you

0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 9>guys in facing black people trying to sell this radical

0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 9>concept and how did it work?

0:58:56.440 --> 0:59:00.479
<v Speaker 8>Because we were too black for white folks, too white

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 8>for black folks. But the people that Life Us stayed

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 8>with us forever. You get they went slowly, but you

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:11.600
<v Speaker 8>built slowly. But the one that came with you stayed forever.

0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:14.600
<v Speaker 8>But it was too It was definitely too too white

0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:17.680
<v Speaker 8>for black folks, and there was too black for white

0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 8>for the most white folks. But like I said, the

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 8>fans that Life Us was a cult, and they still was.

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:26.040
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I got them out there. My age right

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 8>now still want to put on a diaper.

0:59:30.920 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 3>A specific choice to keep Funkadelic.

0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:37.200
<v Speaker 10>The more kind of rock side of what you're doing

0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 10>in Parliament, the more r and b kind of your

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:42.360
<v Speaker 10>soul side that.

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 6>Was intentional but coming to one nation under group.

0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we get out of we get out of sink

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 8>every once in a while.

0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 9>I mean, so that the Funkadelic members feel a certain

0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:56.920
<v Speaker 9>way like yeah, wait a minute, this sounds like parliament.

0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:00.160
<v Speaker 8>No, they was all on all the records anyway, we

1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 8>was on everybody was on both records, so it didn't matter.

1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:07.760
<v Speaker 9>So when songs get released, are you like, okay, this

1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:10.640
<v Speaker 9>is definitely gonna like at any point, was One Nation

1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:14.000
<v Speaker 9>Undergroove about to be a Parliament record or you were just.

1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 8>Like no, that was that was straight from the moment

1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:21.880
<v Speaker 8>we cut it. We was cutting from Funkadelic. Junior had

1:00:21.960 --> 1:00:26.440
<v Speaker 8>just got with us, say on One Nation. Okay, Junior

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:28.960
<v Speaker 8>had just got with us, So we took the equipment

1:00:28.960 --> 1:00:32.480
<v Speaker 8>out of the box. They was playing on brand new equipment,

1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:35.919
<v Speaker 8>so they was enthusias hell and that track just came

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:39.800
<v Speaker 8>off and we did it was freestyle this A girl

1:00:39.800 --> 1:00:44.680
<v Speaker 8>gave me that title from d C said y'all like

1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:47.760
<v Speaker 8>one Nation on the groove, So I just started singing that,

1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:52.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, one Nation and that was the chant and

1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:57.480
<v Speaker 8>that was the quick song and first Funkadelic like really hit,

1:00:58.080 --> 1:01:00.880
<v Speaker 8>but that was yeah, that was gonna be funky and

1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:04.360
<v Speaker 8>n Deep was definitely for Funkadelly.

1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:06.520
<v Speaker 9>How do you know when a song is done Because

1:01:07.120 --> 1:01:11.760
<v Speaker 9>a lot of your songs are maybe eight to nine

1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:15.880
<v Speaker 9>miniature choruses or many parts that add up to a

1:01:15.880 --> 1:01:17.600
<v Speaker 9>bigger picture for any of you.

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Comic Dog is like twelve cores.

1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:21.960
<v Speaker 9>Like I was gonna say, if you, if you, if

1:01:22.000 --> 1:01:25.480
<v Speaker 9>you just type in atomic Dog edit, I'm certain that

1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:29.040
<v Speaker 9>you'll find someone's version of the song and which you'll

1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:31.720
<v Speaker 9>hear parts of the song that you never knew existed before.

1:01:31.840 --> 1:01:35.920
<v Speaker 9>But like with you, it's just like any idea works,

1:01:36.000 --> 1:01:38.440
<v Speaker 9>Just put it on tape and it'll.

1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:38.760
<v Speaker 6>Find a home.

1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:44.200
<v Speaker 9>Or like, how do you how do you structure what

1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:45.520
<v Speaker 9>goes here for eight bars?

1:01:45.560 --> 1:01:49.480
<v Speaker 8>And I have to change my theory on that lately

1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:54.760
<v Speaker 8>because they they got snapchats and short songs now and tiktoks,

1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:57.640
<v Speaker 8>so they can't be long songs too much no more.

1:01:58.320 --> 1:02:02.520
<v Speaker 8>So I have to like make ourselves stop otherwise I

1:02:02.680 --> 1:02:07.920
<v Speaker 8>just I'll just be going created crazy. And then I

1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:10.400
<v Speaker 8>know now that they can edit and take parts out,

1:02:11.280 --> 1:02:12.920
<v Speaker 8>so that really makes me, you know.

1:02:13.600 --> 1:02:15.800
<v Speaker 9>No, But I mean you're the originator of that, like,

1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:21.120
<v Speaker 9>because you know, if you tell somebody sing not just needy,

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<v Speaker 9>there's eight parts you can choose, and there's eight hooks.

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<v Speaker 3>And we all know which one.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what. That's what Prince said. He said, man, you

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<v Speaker 8>got eight songs in the deep. He said, you can

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<v Speaker 8>sample them each part and make a whole song out

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<v Speaker 8>of it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Absolutely, that's what made it great.

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<v Speaker 4>How many grand babies do you have, mister Quinn.

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<v Speaker 8>Man, I'm count them up so I remember that I

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<v Speaker 8>got to I got quite a few.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, he's working. This is this conversation is long overdue.

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<v Speaker 6>I thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Do this.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's do this, man, we will do this.

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<v Speaker 6>And congrats on your your freedom and your your legacy.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much and getting your ship back for real.

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<v Speaker 8>If you find if you got anybody that really wants

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<v Speaker 8>to join in on getting this stuff, let me know.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, I'm on it.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll be calling okay, yes, and I'm Pep Bill answer

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<v Speaker 9>to Stephen pan Tickeolo. This Quest Love Supreme, Grand Imperial

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<v Speaker 9>Guide himself, George Clinton.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you very much. We will see you in the

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<v Speaker 6>next go around. The Quest Love Supreme.

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