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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: What's Up Everybody, It's unpayvill the Team Supreme. For this

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Speaker 2: classic episode of Quest Love Supreme, we're speaking with the incredible,

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Speaker 2: the One, the Only, George Clinton, the parliament Funkadelic. Last

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Speaker 2: week we reissued part one of this conversation. Now in

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Speaker 2: part two, did a deep dive and asked these sorts

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Speaker 2: of rappit ble fan questions that make QLs week. This

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Speaker 2: was taped in mid twenty twenty during those early days

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Speaker 2: of the pandemic, so Team Supreme was still learning how to.

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Speaker 3: Get along virtually and in general.

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Speaker 2: But the quality of the conversation is amazing. Make sure

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Speaker 2: you check out all our interviews with Booty Collins, Larry

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Speaker 2: Blackman cameo and the late George Brown cool Gag. QoS

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Speaker 2: loves bringing you that phone and it gets no better

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Speaker 2: than George Clinton.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned Boosie.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to ask you since we had him

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Speaker 5: on the show and he told some awesome stories about you.

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Speaker 4: But one of the stories he mentioned.

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Speaker 5: Was something involved y'all creative process in the was it

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Speaker 5: the Bermuda triangle? He said that you used to do that,

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Speaker 5: but he never knew why that place and to like

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Speaker 5: be creative, can you please?

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Speaker 6: You went fishing in the Bermuda Triangle.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know that. We was the only one

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Speaker 7: after the Mothership connection, you know.

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Speaker 8: You know the whole thing was we went to Bemani

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Speaker 8: and to hang out and the number one Bemani Road

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Speaker 8: and everything I saw all of the fish advertisement. Mister

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Speaker 8: Wiggerdworm was a lure that was collecting information for the

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Speaker 8: Motivooty affair. Wow, he didn't know what we were talking

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Speaker 8: what I was doing. You know, I was just gathering

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Speaker 8: the topics, you know, from that topic and.

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Speaker 7: It all came together pretty good.

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Speaker 8: You know, we was on a roll.

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Speaker 6: You had no fear of drowning and the Bermuda Triangle

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Speaker 8: Oh, I mean, it's all I need to fear. That

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Speaker 8: gent everywhere we wanted. He tells you that we saw spaceship.

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Speaker 8: He tells you something happened to.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he told us about this.

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Speaker 8: Now that's for real. I mean we drove up there

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Speaker 8: from Detroit after finishing the album, got there with and

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Speaker 8: went by Gary's house.

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Speaker 7: It was like ten o'clock in the morning. Now we

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Speaker 8: We saw a light that looked like laser, you know,

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Speaker 8: or light, but it was a straight being and I said,

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Speaker 8: you see that? He said, what was it?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Five minutes later, we get off the highway be going

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Speaker 8: down the country road. The same light sounded like two

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Speaker 8: blocks in front of us, right through the trees. That

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Speaker 8: hit the ground and sparked like like you know, electricity

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Speaker 8: on the right side, then on the left side the highway,

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Speaker 8: and the third time it hit the car right on

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Speaker 6: Beat it like oil and water, you know.

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Speaker 8: That consistency, and rolled right off the car. What the hell?

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Speaker 7: And at that time that what's.

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Speaker 8: Weird about it that we didn't realize this for years?

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Speaker 8: The street lights was going off. Now I remember the

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Speaker 8: first time we saw this light. The weird thing was

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Speaker 8: that you saw light in daylight right right, and you

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Speaker 8: That was the weird to stay. But when this when

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Speaker 8: it happened, when we hit the car, the street light

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Speaker 8: lights was getting dark. We had to drive like five blocks.

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Speaker 8: What's going on? We got five blocks and you can

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Speaker 8: look back to your left you can see street lights

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Speaker 8: this time it's nighttime.

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Speaker 7: We don't realize this. I don't. We don't talk about it.

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Speaker 7: I realized this for years.

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Speaker 8: My daughter said, what yelling like, y'all seen the ghosts?

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Speaker 8: She said, give me, kids, I'm getting ready to go

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Speaker 7: The morning, she's going to bed at seven o'clock at night.

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Speaker 8: We did not realize that for years that that had

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Speaker 4: That time he last and.

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Speaker 8: I called boots of them? What time did we get there?

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Speaker 8: When we was coming from the student and he remembered.

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Speaker 8: And then when I told her what the barbarella? What

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Speaker 8: was she doing? She's going to mean that same thing,

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Speaker 8: I said. We never thought about that for years.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Trendy chemical substances.

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Speaker 8: What people about it. We had just come across the border.

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Speaker 8: We had just come across the border into Canada, so

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Speaker 8: we didn't have no trending chemical substance.

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Speaker 3: You have Canadian trendy chemical.

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Speaker 7: Had Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Really believe that we are the only beings of this

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Speaker 9: level in this entire galaxy.

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Speaker 2: No, but the fact that George Clinton's all aliens means

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Speaker 2: everything is perfectly correct in the world.

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Speaker 3: I I believe everything he's saying. He thought I see

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Speaker 3: them before he did. He saw them.

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Speaker 9: They're there. Let me ask you, so, what is what

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Speaker 9: drew you to? I mean, you know, next to sun Ray,

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Speaker 9: I don't know any other black figure in music that

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Speaker 9: deals with oh, with the exception earth Fire, that deals

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Speaker 9: with afro futurism. And you know, I'll say that, And

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Speaker 9: I'm glad you brought it. And Hendrix, Yes, yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 9: Jimmy Andrew and the and the thing is is that

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Speaker 9: I'm glad you you brought up the UFO story because

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Speaker 9: it's like, even in preparing for this interview, I know

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Speaker 9: that with you with like at the time in seventy six,

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Speaker 9: seventy seven Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Star Wars,

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Speaker 9: I tried watching Star Wars. I'm famous for falling asleep

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Speaker 9: during Star Wars for the I'm sorry, it's just a

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Speaker 9: film that you know, dog, I've yet. I've seen Star Wars,

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Speaker 9: but I've not gotten through one.

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Speaker 3: Concurrent, like that's of everything.

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Speaker 9: But how are you able to get into because I

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Speaker 9: think Richard Prye once brought up the fact that, you know,

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Speaker 9: a lot of black people aren't into science fiction because

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Speaker 9: we rarely see ours, like we're not painted in the

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Speaker 9: future and a lot of this production. But you were

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Speaker 9: our vision of an Afro futurist society.

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Speaker 6: So what what brought that on?

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Speaker 9: Like what made you not just want to make people

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Speaker 9: people live in the present, I feel black music, whereas

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Speaker 9: you're talking about I think, I think Star Trek.

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Speaker 8: I think Star Trek. I was addicted to that by

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Speaker 8: the time I saw Star Wars. That was like a

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Speaker 7: It was for kids, but already was into the mother Ship.

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Speaker 8: Theories and the sci fire that that Star Wars had

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Speaker 8: more stories. So I was always into that. And when

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Speaker 8: it came time to make a record, I want to

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Speaker 8: do a funk opera. When that's when we started thinking about.

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Speaker 8: First we did Chocolate City, and one time I saw

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Speaker 8: put black places where they weren't ordinarily seen. That was

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Speaker 8: that was the cool thing to do. So the next one,

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Speaker 8: I say, put them in out of space. You didn't

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Speaker 8: only one you saw out there.

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Speaker 7: But what about you see this dude out there on

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Speaker 8: There like it's a Cadillac. That's all of a sudden, it's

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Speaker 8: you know, So then the Clones is the weirdest one.

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Speaker 8: Now you want the story.

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Speaker 7: Clones was the second one after Mothership.

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Speaker 8: I got on a train. I got on a train

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Speaker 8: in Dallas, Texas. There was a book on this train.

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Speaker 8: This is the first day this train is running at

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Speaker 8: for me. I picked up the book and Steve Swanson

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Speaker 8: has docked on spaceships over fifteen hundred times, blah blah blah,

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Speaker 8: in Portland, Oregon. Every book stand that saw had the

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Speaker 8: book and that it was called The Clones. I thought

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Speaker 8: that's about what his cloned. And they told me it

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Speaker 8: was protected by the freedom of information. Now, when they

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Speaker 8: told me that, my whole you know, I got nosy

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Speaker 8: the whole Doctor Funkenstein. They gave me a book called

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Speaker 8: Dr Moreau. Okay, Doctor Moreau. That was the closest they

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Speaker 8: Clones uh funking telekey and motivated, all of them was

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Speaker 8: going in that same direction of all those theories. You know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I assure you that Smokey Robinson was not doing that.

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Speaker 8: What he did, know, what he used to do. He

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Speaker 7: It was just it was another version of that.

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Speaker 9: are a massive fan of sly Stone. I have two

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Speaker 9: questions about Sli and I've been you know, as of

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Speaker 9: ninth birthday, and usually around your birthday time, I'll spend

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Speaker 9: a month while I'll do nothing but dive into the

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Speaker 9: p funkology of your work, so especially Quarantining.

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Speaker 6: I've probably watched at.

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Speaker 9: Least at least ten of the concerts between seventy six

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Speaker 9: and the mid eighties, like at least four times each.

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Speaker 9: I have a question though, about the p Funk Earth

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Speaker 9: how witty his songwriting was, and his and his arrangements

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Speaker 9: been sort of passed and you're clearly now the alpha.

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Speaker 6: Or the leader.

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Speaker 9: And you know, in nineteen seventy six, I think that's

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Speaker 9: when his heard you Miss Me while I'm Back album

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Speaker 7: That he didn't do that. He didn't do that, and

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Speaker 7: somebody else did that.

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Speaker 9: But I want to know, how do you think that

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Speaker 9: was psychologically?

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Speaker 6: Because the thing is is that usually.

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Speaker 9: When you're when you're when you are a maverick of

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Speaker 6: Twenty year run Prince had.

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Speaker 8: It may have, it may have, but at that time

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Speaker 7: Really, you know, you don't know, No, he's that.

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Speaker 8: Kind of real everybody know that you're doing letting me

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Speaker 7: And you know it's some funny ship.

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Speaker 8: Because you have to say, yeah, you can, but don't

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Speaker 8: But I was going through because I wasn't doing what

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Speaker 7: So I mean, I couldn't get out of that.

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Speaker 7: Time, you can lose your energy.

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: You can get ciphers.

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Speaker 9: So but let me ask I'm not advocating. I'm not advocating,

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Speaker 8: Damn you you've been watching a lot of it, Dude,

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Speaker 9: Okay, you tell the Chelsea Clinton crack pipe story?

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Speaker 8: Clear, clear that up? Man?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, Okay, tell the story?

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Speaker 7: Well which one did you?

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Speaker 8: So?

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Speaker 9: Basically, Chelsea Clinton goes to a first p funk show

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Speaker 6: And that photos in People magazine.

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Speaker 3: Wow, they know?

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Speaker 5: Did the Clintons know the real story behind?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 5: I just mean I just didn't know if you had

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Speaker 6: They didn't know.

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Speaker 8: Then her and holler Field gave me a birthday cake

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Speaker 10: Well wow, and while we own drugs that you actually

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Speaker 6: Is that you?

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Speaker 3: It looked it looked pretty convincing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it looked pretty convinced. No, I didn't do that, Okay,

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Speaker 8: I was. I was.

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Speaker 9: I don't even know if you know the first time

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the sea word, Oh yeah, that's your state. Yeah

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Speaker 9: I walked into George's room one second and I took

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Speaker 6: I ran to everyone like.

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Speaker 3: So how did you get clean?

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Speaker 6: George?

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Speaker 3: Like, how how did you? Because we looking at you now,

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Speaker 3: I mean you look you yes, yeah, how did you?

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Speaker 3: How did you get clean? What was that process?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 7: I got a good wife first of all, that was

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Speaker 8: But after you know, I got sick one time, and

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Speaker 8: cause I thought I was superman, I guess, but I

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Speaker 8: and I said, no, you got you got a lot

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Speaker 8: never looked if what you realize you have enough time

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Speaker 8: It's gonna take a long time to get this ship

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Speaker 8: Once I started getting on the mission of trying to

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Speaker 8: that took up all my energy. And once I did that,

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Speaker 8: seventy five again. When I started that. You know, when

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Speaker 8: I Midigate Fraud, I was really really proud of that album.

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Speaker 10: Noord it was yeah, just the fact that it was

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Speaker 10: but it didn't sound like you were pandering, like trying

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Speaker 3: There it was, but it was still you.

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Speaker 8: That was the hard thing, the balance that being up

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Speaker 8: before the pandemic thing happened. We just playing with the

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Speaker 10: I was going to ask you about producing the Chili Peppers,

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Speaker 10: because you produced them, how did you.

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Speaker 3: Land Bricky Styly? Yeah, and the party plant.

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Speaker 8: They were they were you know, they wanted to be

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Speaker 8: so it's easy to work with them. You know, they

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Speaker 7: But they wanted to do it punk. They wasn't trying

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Speaker 8: They could actually play slick music, but they went out

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Speaker 8: They actually like jazz music, right, They wasn't trying to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he went out of his way to No, you.

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Speaker 8: Ain't saving that ship.

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Speaker 9: I didn't get my question out because we got sidetracked by.

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Speaker 6: Can you please tell us? Can you please tell us

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Speaker 6: the David ruffin Sly story.

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Speaker 4: It was a precursor to Clinton story.

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Speaker 6: Yes, just the question is commercial for quest of Supreme enough.

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Speaker 7: That that was the fun of me.

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Speaker 8: That's that's that's some superstar drug stuff there. You know,

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Speaker 8: once you once you've been a star and you're down,

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Speaker 8: you don't realize that you're a star no more.

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Speaker 7: Especially if you drank your drugs.

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Speaker 8: And and I felt that we was a typical, the

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Speaker 8: being nice to him. He was, he was, he was

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Speaker 6: Wasn't in his mind right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, So we tried to get him not

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Speaker 8: to ruin it so we don't get out dope, and

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Speaker 7: And slide trying to He's trying to referee, telling them no,

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Speaker 7: George gotta he's right there.

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Speaker 8: You got to listen to the juge, I said, boy,

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Speaker 8: if you could, we had a picture of the three

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Speaker 8: of us here trying to do this. You know, this

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Speaker 8: Let's go get the ship.

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Speaker 6: Fuck it.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like the scene in Boogie Knights with the fire.

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Speaker 6: I know exactly what that is. This the story with

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Speaker 6: the real to real tape with Sly.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, no, that's.

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Speaker 6: No, that's another story. Thought, this is the whole story. No, no,

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Speaker 8: Yes, oh man, No, that's the dope dealer that he

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Speaker 8: had the dope dealing.

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Speaker 7: He the I'm gonna let you keep my real.

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Speaker 8: This is real to my album. Give me some dope

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Speaker 8: one credit, you can hold the album. But it wasn't

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Speaker 8: nothing on the reel. So we do that a couple

445
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 8: of times.

446
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 7: But I'm getting scared. I'm getting scared.

447
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 8: So you know, I said, no, I don't ain't nothing

448
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 8: on the tape. Man, I tell the dude, ain't nothing

449
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 8: on the tape.

450
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 7: It ain't nothing tape.

451
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 8: Yeah. So I mean this, after we did it two

452
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 8: or three times, the dude tell me, don't you have

453
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 8: to love him? Don't you just love him? Nobody was

454
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 8: getting mad at nobody can get mad at it.

455
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 4: You know that it must be a metal not for nothing.

456
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: And I said this to Bootsy too.

457
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 5: I was like, y'all are like medical marvels, Like not

458
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 5: only do you look the way you do, but you

459
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 5: also your memories are like perfectly intact, Like what.

460
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 8: Did you I understanding because he reminded me of I forgot.

461
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 7: I put all this sh in the book.

462
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the words you was like, oh yeah, I

463
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 5: know what you're talking about, like it was yesterday.

464
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I forget. Yeah, yeah, that was

465
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 7: some funny ship.

466
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 6: Go ahead, what is your question?

467
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 8: Oh?

468
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 10: I was just going to ask you of all the

469
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 10: just the lyrics that you've written. You know, you were

470
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 10: a big inspiration to me as a as an MC

471
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 10: because you would have just all these amazing plays on

472
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 10: words and these puns and you know, this fishtail begins

473
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 10: with most fishtails in like all that stuff.

474
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 3: You just did really inventive stuff with language.

475
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 10: And I just always wondered, did you have like a

476
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 10: journal that you would write this stuff in or would

477
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 10: it all just be off the top. What was just

478
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 10: the writing process for your lyrics like I had?

479
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 8: People would probably you know the band members the keen Up.

480
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 8: Anytime you heard me say something or laugh and I

481
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 8: hear something and I repeat it, he would write it

482
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 8: down and all I have to do is say it,

483
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 8: and he would in the studio.

484
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 7: When I get ready to go in the student, he

485
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 7: just give me.

486
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 8: A list of things that have nothing to do with

487
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 8: each other that I said, and and then we get

488
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 8: a concept. We didn't start throwing puns at it and

489
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 8: using like I said, using the little smokey Robinson of

490
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 8: you know, pun on top of pun, but.

491
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 7: We had two more to it to make it absurd.

492
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 8: You know, we use synonyms, antonyms or harmonyms, it didn't matter.

493
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 8: We just used all of it. If it sounds the same,

494
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 8: we throw it in there. And and we can actually

495
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 8: get especially with Bootsy, we could say anything the boots

496
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 8: and if he said in that boy, you know, it would.

497
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 7: Actually work, you know, like.

498
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 6: Be my beach right.

499
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 8: You know he says some of the stupidest stuff and

500
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 8: the dumber it was the funny it was if you

501
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 8: said it because he had that overtone like Jimmy and the.

502
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 7: Whole walking on your boat.

503
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 6: And I had and all that stuff.

504
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, oh my god.

505
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 6: So is he making that up at the microphone? Is

506
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 6: there's just a list of We've been feeding it.

507
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 7: To him in his boom.

508
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 8: We just said to him and he said after so

509
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 8: he laying if the knick a bill was fun, but

510
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 8: I would be doing it to Boogie, would be doing

511
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 8: it to And once we got a concept, we can

512
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 8: just say anything. Now a song like Ryan Stone Rockstump

513
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 8: Monster with Dub Baby Babba, I would write those parts

514
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 8: all the reality.

515
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 6: I asked him this question.

516
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 9: Now I got to ask you probably you know in

517
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 9: the history of all the songs that you've written. I

518
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 9: don't think that to be alive in nineteen seventy eight

519
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 9: when that song was that its most popular. I've never

520
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 9: seen it, and I was seven years old at the time.

521
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 9: But if a seven year old knows that song, then

522
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 9: you know it's something. Why did you guys just not

523
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 9: call that song wind me Up? Could have just called

524
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 9: it wind me Up? It took me good to find

525
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 9: it because I didn't know what Bootzilla was, Like, why

526
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 9: did y'all not.

527
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 6: Call it wind me up?

528
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 8: He was a rock star monster for doll Baby.

529
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 7: That was a that was a toy.

530
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 8: That was a toy called boot Billy made by to

531
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 8: make us the funky things to play with. That was

532
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 8: a whole concept.

533
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 9: You want to as a toy, but not as the

534
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 9: as the hook.

535
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 8: Okay, no, no, the toy.

536
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 7: But then he got scared. I forgot if we got

537
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 7: so big.

538
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 8: I told him, it's gonna be hard to live up

539
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 8: to this, you know, So don't don't equate yourself with

540
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 8: being this character, because way it's way bigger than you're

541
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 8: gonna possibly because we was on a roll then I

542
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 8: had done it with we love to funk you funking

543
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 8: style and said you can talk about yourself and not

544
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 8: believe it. The main thing is, don't need this ship

545
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 8: because if it works, you're gonna be in a hell.

546
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 7: Of a whose position to try to live up to it.

547
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 7: Just do it and even long. And that was hard for.

548
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 8: Him because, like I told him, the boots got bigger,

549
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 8: the glasses got bigger, everything get bigger till this too

550
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 8: heavy to carry?

551
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 9: Part two of this question. Part two of this question.

552
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 9: Do you think part of him kind of wanted to

553
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 9: sabotage this boot was made for funking because that album

554
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 9: was the complete opposite.

555
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 8: Oh that's when that's when he went out.

556
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what he Definitely he wanted to control and

557
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 7: I let him.

558
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 8: Have control him of that album.

559
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 7: It was it was different, though he wasn't.

560
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 9: The same, Yeah, but the thing was it was so

561
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 9: like ah, I always wanted to Like I listened to it.

562
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 9: I appreciate it now forty years after the fact, but

563
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 9: back then it was I was like, wait, something's different

564
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 9: about this record than the other three?

565
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 7: And what did he say?

566
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 8: No?

567
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 9: No, no, I mean I never asked him about it,

568
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 9: but I think as I got older, I was thinking

569
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 9: like there was a point where Boots he could have

570
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 9: actually overshadowed the entire p funk.

571
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 6: He chose not to.

572
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 8: He had started, we had started to let him headline

573
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 8: the shows. That's when it had got to that point,

574
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 8: the way he was that you know, at the time

575
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 8: when they scared him, he answers scared of him, he

576
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 8: got shingles. That's when he got this tingle on his

577
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 8: very first date by himself. But at the same time,

578
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 8: you know, we had the political business of the trolls

579
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 8: was entering the picture trying to tear the part, and

580
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 8: it was getting too big. There wasn't gonna be another motown.

581
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 8: The industry had made up them out. There was not

582
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 8: gonna be another motown and we were at that level

583
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 8: to that was beginning to be. You know, after we

584
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 8: get Uncle Lami, they at was gonna have a Shaka

585
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 8: and Larry because all of us was together by then.

586
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, you're on the same label. I forgot that.

587
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 9: Speaking of clones, always wanted to know what were your

588
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 9: thoughts on all of the p funk music that didn't

589
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 9: come from the p funk camp that was obviously so

590
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 9: derivative of the p funk sound. And I'm talking about

591
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 9: I'm talking about gat Band, I'm talking about joy Stick

592
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 9: by George George. I mean, the thing is that you

593
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 9: scared us that really really Yeah.

594
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 8: I told you you know your you know your thing

595
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 8: that one close, reach for it, reach for it. Yes, yeah, I.

596
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 7: Said, damn, did you steak up and do a record

597
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 7: with them or something?

598
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 8: I felt like it was gonna get me to be

599
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 8: a genre I wanted it to be.

600
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 7: You know, especially Ohio Players.

601
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 8: They were like that. They were like one of the

602
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 8: punkiest ones, you know, but them and then Prince you

603
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 8: know him, like Stevie, they was inclined to do pop music,

604
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 8: but they could be punky as all hell, you know,

605
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 8: and you know, they just knew that they could get

606
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 8: away with doing the pop music and that's where you know,

607
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 8: the money was at.

608
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 7: Or you could do wide a variety of songs.

609
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 8: But all of them, Prince and Jimmy Jam at the time,

610
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 8: all of them that was funky Rick then all of

611
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 8: them was beginning to be, you know, a funk Gendre

612
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 8: Irwin and Fire was popping at first, but then they

613
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 8: started embracing it as funk after a while.

614
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 9: You know, we asked Philip Bailey, what was his thoughts

615
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 9: on Let's Take It to the Stage.

616
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 6: He said he'd never heard of it. Philip Billy said,

617
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 6: he we played Let's Take It to the Stage room.

618
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 6: He had no.

619
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 9: Clue that he was being, uh, this record sort of not.

620
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 9: I took it his plateful ribbing. Yeah, did anyone did

621
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 9: any of those groups ever try to approach you? You

622
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 9: know snoofists and slipping the flamily bricks and smooth crazy

623
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 9: say that's fucked up?

624
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 8: You see? Was cool?

625
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 6: That was?

626
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 7: You know, No, nobody never said that.

627
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 8: It was you know, only people we mentioned with people

628
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 8: that we like, you know, And I think that's what

629
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 8: a lot of the people to the distant thing when

630
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 8: they started dissing each other.

631
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 7: That was like playing the dozens when I was.

632
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 8: In school, and you start getting paid for it. You know,

633
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 8: that's what you know, a jail house rhyming. You know,

634
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 8: Once that became pop, once that became the music. Okay,

635
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 8: I saw that that that makes sense, especially when I

636
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 8: heard somebody like rock Kim.

637
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 7: You know, that's just like, damn, you can do it.

638
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 7: That's fucking good.

639
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 8: And then I didn't realize we had mother right there.

640
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 8: In our town, eminem. He was fifteen years old and

641
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 8: we didn't even.

642
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 7: Pay attention to him. He was like slimy shady.

643
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 8: On our ass, and we knew him. We knew he

644
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 8: was bad, but we had no idea that mother was

645
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 8: all bad. We knew he was bad, but we watched

646
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 8: him just like right, not knows raining the studio?

647
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 9: Right while we're there, can you tell us a print

648
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 9: story that we don't know?

649
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 6: You? You weren't probably you were.

650
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 8: For before we got on Pasty. He sent me a tape.

651
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 7: He sent me a.

652
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 8: Tape he wanted me to work on. He sent it

653
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 8: to the and so we told him we didn't want

654
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 8: to be responsible for the tape. Send it to the

655
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 8: studio the engineer. Let the engineer get it set up.

656
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 8: I would go in there and do a do a party.

657
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 8: I ain't trusted, you know, doing nothing with his you know,

658
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 8: his tape. I'm gonna go be responsible. So we get

659
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 8: to the studio and I'm getting ready to put my

660
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 8: part on it.

661
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 7: And it was called cookie Jar.

662
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 8: Oh okay, we had already did a cookie job, but

663
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 8: it was different than that.

664
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 7: The engineer put the tape on backward.

665
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 8: You know how you roll the tape off back when

666
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 8: some people roll the tape off tail tail out, and

667
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 8: so when he put it on, he tried to clean

668
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 8: the tape to get him some you know, clean the

669
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 8: tape is to get him some clean, some space. But

670
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 8: it was tail out. He raised half of the song

671
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 8: on the tail end of the song. So I gets

672
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 8: to the studio and he's looking wild and scary, and.

673
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 7: I wouldn't even go in the studio.

674
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 8: I said, I'm not going I'm not even going in.

675
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 8: I want this to be I was not. Yeah, I

676
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 8: had nothing to do, but this is the first time

677
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 8: I had interaction with him, you know, and I know

678
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 8: you know, I would have got blamed all of that.

679
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 8: So I'm not going in there y'all and telling what

680
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 8: happened and let.

681
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 7: Him know that I was nowhere near.

682
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 6: Oh my god. And hopefully.

683
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 8: No, they never they never got a chance to do

684
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 8: it again. We heard the beginning of it was good,

685
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 8: but about a minute it happened to the song that

686
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 8: goes blank, and that was the only one he had

687
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 8: of it.

688
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: Man, damn, I'm glad.

689
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 6: I let's let's prow some water out for that.

690
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: That's not the story you wanted to hear.

691
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 10: Okay, did did he ever play you when you did

692
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 10: We Can Funk for Graffiti Bridge?

693
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: Did he ever play you the original We Can Funk?

694
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 8: Uh?

695
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: Huh?

696
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 6: He did?

697
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 8: Well?

698
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, I liked it.

699
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 8: I like that that that and so psychedelic side, both

700
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 8: of those he played me both of those.

701
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, he told us that.

702
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 8: He told us to go crazy on it and and

703
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 8: do you know what we do in me and Gary

704
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 8: just with the lunch on it, and then he mixed

705
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 8: them both together.

706
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 7: Have you heard the long vision?

707
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 8: Yeah?

708
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 6: I got it?

709
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, ah for y'all crazy.

710
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 6: Actually, you know what I was shocked.

711
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 9: What's weird is that you're technically the Weekend Funk that

712
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 9: you're on on Graffiti Bridge is technically the base of

713
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 9: it is still the eighty four version, which to me

714
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 9: speaks more of how far I've headed Prince's time.

715
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 6: Prince was the fact.

716
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 9: That he could send you a real that he worked

717
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 9: on probably in nineteen eighty three, and it still works

718
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 9: for nineteen ninety and you know, still works thirty five

719
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 9: years after that fact, you know, I mean once once

720
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 9: it was finally released back in twenty and seventeen, it

721
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 9: still sounds, you know, fresh and right.

722
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 8: Have you ever. Have you ever heard of Paradigm?

723
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 6: No?

724
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 7: No, wow, you didn't.

725
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 6: I've not heard of that.

726
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 7: Check that one out him and just him and myself.

727
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 6: Really, Okay, it's on.

728
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 8: It's one of my records.

729
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 6: Okay, this is not with TCL is on it right?

730
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 7: No, no, no, not that, it's not.

731
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: No tcl's jokes.

732
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 7: No, but.

733
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 8: It's on how late I think.

734
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 6: You know what it is? It is? It is? I

735
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 6: did hear it.

736
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 9: I heard it, and it was It came out in

737
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 9: ninety six, ninety.

738
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 8: Seven, I think no, no, no, no, it came out

739
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 8: in two thousand.

740
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 9: There is There is a song that while we were

741
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 9: still working on Voodoo, you sent D'Angelo.

742
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 6: So it was like ninety eight ninety nine. It was

743
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 6: a CD.

744
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 9: It was a cassette that he played us. I don't

745
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 9: know when it came out, but you sent a song

746
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 9: to him that was you and Prince and I think

747
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 9: the vocals were various feeded to sound cartoonist.

748
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 6: There is I don't know who the title of the

749
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 6: song was.

750
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 8: Check it. Check out this google paradigm.

751
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 6: Okay, I will do that.

752
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 8: Uh.

753
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 10: I wanted to ask you a question about the brides

754
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 10: of Funkenstein and how you came up with the concept

755
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 10: to put them together the song Bertie is just I

756
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 10: love that damn song. What was the what was the

757
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 10: concept of putting them together and then versus what in

758
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 10: your mind as a producer was going to be the

759
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 10: difference between them versus parlay?

760
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 7: Okay, and that took that we did.

761
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 8: Neil Bogart asked for a group after we were successful

762
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 8: at Cattle Blanka, and so we gave gave him the.

763
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 7: The Brides of Funkenstein.

764
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 8: That was kind of that was dark for him, you know,

765
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 8: he was bubblegummy. He thought that was a dog. He

766
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 8: wanted something really simple, the grass Parlet.

767
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 7: So we took those two.

768
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 8: Girls, Lynn and Dawn and gave them to Atlantic. We

769
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 8: did the whole album and that album was actually done

770
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 8: for Julia Phillips. She did Close k Counters, the girl

771
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 8: that produced Director there. She she wanted a disco version

772
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 8: of Remember they were doing soundtracks of all the shows,

773
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 8: all the big so she wanted a version of that.

774
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 8: So we did a Warship two shot for for you know,

775
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 8: for her, and we were gonna give it to Neil. Neil

776
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 8: wanted to pop. He wanted Partlett, so we gave that

777
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 8: record to Atlantic and then we did partlet for for

778
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 8: you know, cats a Blanca. That's how we end up

779
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 8: with the two girl groups.

780
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: So gotcha?

781
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 6: Was Neil a traditional label head?

782
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 9: I meant like, yeah, all right, But I'm saying, though,

783
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 9: are you going to him plan uh do that stuff?

784
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 6: And he has an opinion on.

785
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: It or is record?

786
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 9: Give me a three minutes and thirty second version of

787
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 9: You're Fish and I'm a Water.

788
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 6: Now, he's not just letting you do what you want.

789
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 8: He pretty much let us do what he wants. But

790
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 8: he but he do that and in the beginning he

791
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 8: knew what kind of group he want. Once we got there,

792
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 8: we could do what we wanted with him. But he

793
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 8: was so good at being a record man that you

794
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 8: tried to give him what he wanted, you know, because

795
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 8: you know he's going to put everything in the world

796
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 8: behind promoting it. When I said I wanted the spaceship,

797
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 8: he just got me a bank and they and they

798
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 8: got together and they I was able to get the spaceship.

799
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 6: You know.

800
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 8: He was on Cameo Parkway, he was you know, so

801
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 8: he was from that school of records. He knew how

802
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 8: to do from the cameo Parkway version.

803
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 7: Then Buddha.

804
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 8: He was like God.

805
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 7: He was like the bubblegum king.

806
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 8: So by the time he got the Castle Blanker, he

807
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 8: was getting this shot.

808
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 7: He could do pretty much what he wanted, and he

809
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 7: did it.

810
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 8: He was a real record man that spent everything on promotion.

811
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 7: He was a promotion man.

812
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 8: That's why I liked and I knew I could do

813
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 8: a concept called mother Ship or you know, and even

814
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 8: give me the prompts that I need to, you know,

815
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 8: to promote the record.

816
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 7: He understood that.

817
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 9: I should have asked this question at the beginning, because

818
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 9: you're the You're the you're the you're the north star

819
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 9: of this whole stratosphere. But how taxing is it two

820
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 9: maintain personalities and deal with business because you're you're dealing

821
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 9: with over twelve groups and.

822
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: Across like three or four different labels.

823
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's everyone has their record deal and you know,

824
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 9: you gotta you.

825
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 10: Know, calim and Funcadela was the original w Tang.

826
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 3: George. George was the original.

827
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 6: So how how are you maintaining.

828
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 9: You know, at this member and that that member makes

829
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 9: your payroll gets in time.

830
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 6: And we left that at out at the bus.

831
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 9: Station and getting getting to the gigs on time, and

832
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 9: one of the light rigs went out, or the drummer

833
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 9: someone of the o d backstage like, how are you.

834
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 6: You gotta deal? You got to be everyone's father and collaborator.

835
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: And and still be free.

836
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 7: And go on get on drugs and go on to

837
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 7: your wife?

838
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 8: Right?

839
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 6: How not? How? But why? Why would you ever want

840
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 6: to do that to yourself?

841
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 7: That was my mission?

842
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 8: That's my mission. I mean, that's I started this at thirteen,

843
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 8: and I wanted to be that, you know in this business,

844
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 8: and I never changed them. When I got motown with

845
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 8: my aspiration Bill spectrum of my aspiration, Jimmy Hendrix my aspiration,

846
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 8: you know, and then whoever else come in and.

847
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 7: Do it hard that becomes my aspiration.

848
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 8: When I hit Slide, that was my Beatles turned me

849
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 8: completely to pug out. That's what. Oh my god, I

850
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 8: wanted to a funk opera once I sawd Sergeant Pepper.

851
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 8: You know from a songwriter standpoint that that was impeccable.

852
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 8: You know, when the lyrics was nonsensical and but melodic

853
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 8: instill you had a mother doing arrangement like big band

854
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 8: arrangement on a rock and roll band.

855
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 7: They had a concept that worked. Cream.

856
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 8: All of those things influenced me.

857
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 6: So are there other genres?

858
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 9: Are there other genres of music that we don't know

859
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 9: that you're into?

860
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 6: Like how big is your jazz?

861
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 7: But Go Go, Go Go Go?

862
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 4: What I was about to ask about your relationship with DC, because.

863
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 8: Go Go Go Go Go Go just had it a

864
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 8: little harder than funk me because Go Go is uh

865
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 8: go Go is religious.

866
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 7: They don't want that to get out of d C.

867
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 8: No, No, I mean the d C people wanted to

868
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 8: get out, But I'm saying that industry don't. That's that's

869
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 8: something that's some that's some other kind of uga. We

870
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 8: call it uga booga. You know that. I mean that works.

871
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 8: I don't care how big a star, but Go Go

872
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 8: band get up on stage before you. You measine that.

873
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 7: You better hope they don't play your record Go Go.

874
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 8: Better than you. Okay, I didn't see that happen. No men, Chuck,

875
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 8: Me and Chucks we worked together before he was calling

876
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 8: it Go Go. One of his first songs that he

877
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 8: did was I don't care about the COVID when you're

878
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 8: hot too much? When you're hot, your hot. Tiki was

879
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 8: playing with us then and played there with them, and

880
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 8: that was they grew for years before they became, you know,

881
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 8: a go go band, the Soul Search you.

882
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 6: You know what.

883
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 9: There's there's an interview that I heard from you in

884
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 9: nineteen eighty.

885
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 6: I think this is when.

886
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 9: Nineteen eighty what's out, Oh, Parliament's Tumbipulation.

887
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 6: You did a month long residency.

888
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 9: I think you were promoting during a month long residency

889
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 9: at the Apollo Theater.

890
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, we kept up.

891
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 7: We kept the theater open. They was getting ready to

892
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 7: close it down.

893
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, could you talk about how

894
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 6: does one do a month long residency at the.

895
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 8: Power We needed someplace to rehearse the new theatrical show

896
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 8: called Popsicle Stick that was a Trumpipulation album, and we

897
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 8: needed someplace to rehearse the pelap papers with us. That's

898
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 8: when he was Uncle Jam's army, So we needed someplace

899
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 8: to rehearse, and they.

900
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 7: Needed to keep the theater open.

901
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 8: Because they was getting ready to tear it down. We

902
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 8: did a stunt there. Bob Marley played there after us

903
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 8: and James Brown played up there, and that we kept

904
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 8: it open. Froze our ass off because they didn't have

905
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 8: no heat in.

906
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

907
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 6: I was what I say.

908
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 9: Now, now it's nice and furnished, and yeah, it's really

909
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 9: no more rats.

910
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 6: But back in nineteen eighty, what was it that was

911
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 6: the labor of love? Was it?

912
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 8: It was almost it was almost closed it And like

913
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 8: I said, it was we hadn't been opened that much.

914
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 8: And I forget the people who owned it at the time.

915
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 8: There was some hustlers. There was some hustlers on it,

916
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 8: but they kept it alive.

917
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 6: I'm rappid fire now, I got it. I'm headed back

918
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 6: to the sixties. Is it true?

919
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 9: I heard a rumor that you are one of the

920
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 9: background singers on Barbara Lewis's Hello Stranger.

921
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 6: No, that's not you.

922
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 8: No, okay, I always loved I always loved that song.

923
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 8: Pat Lewis a friend.

924
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 7: Of mine who's pretty much singing on everything I did.

925
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 8: She was one of the hot button soul.

926
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 11: Yeah, she's saying on all of them, Dion Jackson and

927
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 11: Barbara Lewis, all of those songs that sounded like smoky.

928
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 6: Oh okay, okay. I asked you this when I was

929
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 6: doing the DJ set. So're you're telling.

930
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 9: Me that some random guy came up to you and said,

931
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 9: I can play guitar. Pretty good if you give me

932
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 9: twenty five bucks and just for kicks, you decided to

933
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 9: let him see what would happen?

934
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, that takes a lot of nerd and takes a

935
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 8: lot of nerd.

936
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 7: And so that first.

937
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 9: Note that he hit on, get off your ass and

938
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 9: jam is him.

939
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 6: That's shrill.

940
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, wow, that is my favorite shrill noise of all time.

941
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 8: He kept our attention from that's real all the way

942
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 8: to the song with Phinney's.

943
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 6: So, is that you guys acting?

944
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 9: Is that you guys reacting to him as you because

945
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 9: you hear either, I don't.

946
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 6: Know if it's lin Marbury said, god like like you hear.

947
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's almost in sample ology. Yeah, that her reaction

948
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 9: is almost.

949
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 6: As much as a sample. That's what he was playing.

950
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 6: So you guys are laughing at what you're hearing, and

951
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 6: literally it just all went down at once. Ship. The

952
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 6: song wasn't written beforehand.

953
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: It's just like, all right, play anything, Yeah, no, just

954
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 3: a track.

955
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 8: We didn't ship. God damn.

956
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 7: I didn't want to get in the way of that.

957
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 7: That's why I made it so simple. You know, don't

958
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 7: say nothing, just ship goddamn, get off your hand.

959
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 6: And then he left and you never heard from him again.

960
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 8: We wanted to talk to him because I gave him

961
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 8: fifty dollars.

962
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 7: I wanted to give you more, man.

963
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 10: I wanted to ask you about your work with Outcasts

964
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 10: and the Dungeon family because they were certainly you know,

965
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 10: a fruit, you know from your tree, you know, something

966
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 10: from the p Funk family, And you did a synthesizer

967
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 10: on uh on stan Conia. But then you also did

968
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 10: another record wasn't as well known, but I loved it.

969
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 10: It was called Black Mermaid, but it was on the

970
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 10: Society Soul Out. Yeah, do you remember anything about those sessions?

971
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 8: And I was like, I'm like, they reminded me of Parliament,

972
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 8: Funk and del too, because all of them were the outcast,

973
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 8: Dungeon Family and Goodie Mob. They was all together at

974
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 8: that time and they hadn't separated into those so I

975
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 8: didn't know who the record was going to be, you know,

976
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 8: but all Sleepy and all of them, big Boy and

977
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 8: all of them, they were, you know, they just come

978
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 8: down the dark.

979
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 6: You know.

980
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 8: I stayed I pretty much lived in dark, you know,

981
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 8: under Dallas from the Climax things, and so that was

982
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 8: like I love that. My part time in.

983
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 7: Atlanta Yeah, that old old Dungeon family. They had a

984
00:51:59,120 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 7: bunch of good song.

985
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 10: How did you get up with? I was going with

986
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 10: more King of your hip hop cribs. You and Kendrick

987
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 10: Lamar on Pimper Butterfly? How did that come about?

988
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 8: One of my grandkids said that he wanted to do

989
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 8: a song with me and that I should do it

990
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 8: with him, and he was he talked the same ship

991
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 8: that I told. He knew what that meant. But when

992
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 8: I met him, he was He's a smart kid. God damn.

993
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, he.

994
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 7: Went to school and he's still had the street thing.

995
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 8: You know. He was like well aware, you know, and

996
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 8: I know most of the people from Compton, you know,

997
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 8: and he was here was a whole nother energy from

998
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 8: that and he's really he put he put work in

999
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 8: your mind, you of like you like Beyonce, like Prince,

1000
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 8: They put work in, Like Michael Jackson put work in.

1001
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 8: He's another one of those people that that put the

1002
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 8: work in.

1003
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 9: Did you say at one point you had the babysit

1004
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 9: the jack when you were I don't know if I

1005
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 9: heard that right. You were a staff writer at Motown, and.

1006
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 8: No, I would saying baby said it was Carrie Gordy.

1007
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 6: Oh, okay, carry who was.

1008
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 8: When they were when they were yeah Carrie, Yeah, when

1009
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 8: they lived in New York. When when we worked at

1010
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 8: the Brill Building.

1011
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 6: Oh Carrie Gordon, Wait, you worked at the Brill Building.

1012
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 8: I worked at the Brill Building sixty two three.

1013
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 6: What was that like?

1014
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 8: Joe Joe Joe Bett was there. I did not know

1015
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 8: that Joe Bett was on the ninth floor.

1016
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 9: I never knew that till you were running to Carol

1017
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 9: King and Niel said, Terry Goffin, Yeah all of that.

1018
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 6: Dude, no one you saw. No wonder your lyric game

1019
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 6: is so tight.

1020
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 8: No, I would don Kirshner, Jesus.

1021
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 6: Christ cold pits. Really you ever hear?

1022
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 8: Jean Red?

1023
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 6: Yes, cool in the game.

1024
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 8: Jean Red cool. Okay, yeah, Jean Red, Cecil Holmes, Buzzy Willis.

1025
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 8: We all worked together before they went to work with

1026
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 8: Neil Bogat that Boodha. We all worked for Jean Red.

1027
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 8: He did cool in the Gang, the Soul Sisters, and

1028
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 8: there's and Charlie Fox.

1029
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 7: Jean Jean was that one. That's Penny Ford's.

1030
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 9: Brother, Penny four formerly a Snap And yeah, that's her brother,

1031
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 9: well of.

1032
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 6: Her own Rights. She used to be on Told Experienced Records.

1033
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, she's she's on our album too.

1034
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 6: Wait when did she joined? When did Penny four join?

1035
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 8: She was on one of my albums. She's on the

1036
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 8: on the Paisty Park album.

1037
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 4: Really yeah, this is I got the power voice.

1038
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 7: Yes, that's her, I got the one.

1039
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 8: That's her.

1040
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 6: You know you know everything we were talking about. You

1041
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 6: just don't know.

1042
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, this is the This is another question I

1043
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 9: had in reflection. The Chronic Man was such a flag

1044
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 9: planting album of your legacy. You damn near produced it yourself.

1045
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 9: Why have Why have you and Doctor Dre? Like and

1046
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 9: listening to it? I was like, Yo, why hasn't George

1047
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 9: and Doctor Dre just made an album together? Because he

1048
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 9: clearly made The Chronic as an audition love letter to you.

1049
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1050
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 7: I would like to see that happen too.

1051
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 8: I worked with Cube and Snoop too.

1052
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 7: Snoop all the time.

1053
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

1054
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 6: But you know, have you have you and Dre ever

1055
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 6: talked about Hey, let's.

1056
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 8: Get the We never we never had a chance to

1057
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 8: kick it, you know, we just state no, we.

1058
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 4: Haven't make it happen to me?

1059
00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 6: We got to make that happen.

1060
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 7: Make it happen, man, I would love.

1061
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 8: To do that.

1062
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 6: Jesus Christ.

1063
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 9: Men, it's such a captain obvious moment.

1064
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 3: Wow, heat the bridge, manat the bridge.

1065
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 6: I'll beat the bridge three questions and then I'll stop.

1066
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: Can I ask a dumb question before you ask your

1067
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 4: real smart one?

1068
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 6: There's no such thing as as dumb questions.

1069
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 4: Because I know he's answered it. But I just wanted to.

1070
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 5: I just want to, really wanted to know what was

1071
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 5: what the you mentioned your life changed with the copyright

1072
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 5: stuff and everything, but visually, when did.

1073
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 4: Your life change?

1074
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 5: Because I feel like I saw you on at the

1075
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 5: Roost jam in La like years and years ago, but

1076
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 5: that was the first time I saw you in a

1077
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 5: suit with the hat looking fine.

1078
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 6: I thought it was I thought it was tik Yo.

1079
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 6: When he walked in the door, I was like, wait,

1080
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 6: teress wearing a suit.

1081
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 9: Oh my god, that's George clad some real ship.

1082
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I had to. I had to go through that

1083
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,280
Speaker 8: period for a minute, a minute, you know, justice playing

1084
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 8: up for a second. But then as soon as I

1085
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 8: did that, C told me that man put the costume

1086
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 8: back on. That what made you do it?

1087
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 4: Because you what made you do it period in the

1088
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 4: first place.

1089
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 8: Well, I'm just figured it it's time to change again.

1090
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 8: I've been changing people that you know.

1091
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 7: I think it's a new dude.

1092
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 5: They did, Yeah, we did, Okay, Okay.

1093
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 9: I have a question about the twenty grand in Detroit.

1094
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 9: Is there any truth to the rumor that you yep?

1095
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 6: I did question out yet?

1096
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 9: Is there any truth to the rumor that you got

1097
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 9: butt naked? Yep, I need question out answerest Gary Gordy's

1098
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 9: table or Dina Ross's table.

1099
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 7: I didn't pee, I didn't.

1100
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 6: I heard that, Okay.

1101
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 7: I just I pulled wine. I pulled wine on my

1102
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 7: on my.

1103
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 8: Head, it dripped down my body, so it appeared that

1104
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 8: I peed on the drink.

1105
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 9: I can't even imagine Barry Gordy and Dinah Ross at

1106
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 9: a Funkadelic shell.

1107
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 8: They used to call it slumming when whenever we was

1108
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 8: at twenty grad you put on your jeans with holes

1109
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 8: in them and patches that said fuck you, and you

1110
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 8: go slumming them with pefo. That was the thing.

1111
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 7: They have mink song and jeans with holes.

1112
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 8: And they would be they would be coming down to

1113
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 8: get funky.

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Speaker 9: But the thing is is that Hendricks could not sit.

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00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 9: I mean, who knows if he would have finally broken

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00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 9: through the other side had he lived. How are you

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00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 9: guys in facing black people trying to sell this radical

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Speaker 9: concept and how did it work?

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Speaker 8: Because we were too black for white folks, too white

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Speaker 8: for black folks. But the people that Life Us stayed

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00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 8: with us forever. You get they went slowly, but you

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00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 8: built slowly. But the one that came with you stayed forever.

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Speaker 8: But it was too It was definitely too too white

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Speaker 8: for black folks, and there was too black for white

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Speaker 8: for the most white folks. But like I said, the

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00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 8: fans that Life Us was a cult, and they still was.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I got them out there. My age right

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Speaker 8: now still want to put on a diaper.

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Speaker 3: A specific choice to keep Funkadelic.

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Speaker 10: The more kind of rock side of what you're doing

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00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 10: in Parliament, the more r and b kind of your

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Speaker 10: soul side that.

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00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 6: Was intentional but coming to one nation under group.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we get out of we get out of sink

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Speaker 8: every once in a while.

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Speaker 9: I mean, so that the Funkadelic members feel a certain

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Speaker 9: way like yeah, wait a minute, this sounds like parliament.

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Speaker 8: No, they was all on all the records anyway, we

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01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 8: was on everybody was on both records, so it didn't matter.

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Speaker 9: So when songs get released, are you like, okay, this

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01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 9: is definitely gonna like at any point, was One Nation

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01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 9: Undergroove about to be a Parliament record or you were just.

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Speaker 8: Like no, that was that was straight from the moment

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Speaker 8: we cut it. We was cutting from Funkadelic. Junior had

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01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 8: just got with us, say on One Nation. Okay, Junior

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01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 8: had just got with us, So we took the equipment

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01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 8: out of the box. They was playing on brand new equipment,

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01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 8: so they was enthusias hell and that track just came

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Speaker 8: off and we did it was freestyle this A girl

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01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 8: gave me that title from d C said y'all like

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Speaker 8: one Nation on the groove, So I just started singing that,

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01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 8: you know, one Nation and that was the chant and

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01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 8: that was the quick song and first Funkadelic like really hit,

1154
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 8: but that was yeah, that was gonna be funky and

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01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 8: n Deep was definitely for Funkadelly.

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Speaker 9: How do you know when a song is done Because

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01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 9: a lot of your songs are maybe eight to nine

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01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 9: miniature choruses or many parts that add up to a

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Speaker 9: bigger picture for any of you.

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Speaker 3: Comic Dog is like twelve cores.

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Speaker 9: Like I was gonna say, if you, if you, if

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01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 9: you just type in atomic Dog edit, I'm certain that

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01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 9: you'll find someone's version of the song and which you'll

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01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 9: hear parts of the song that you never knew existed before.

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 9: But like with you, it's just like any idea works,

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01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 9: Just put it on tape and it'll.

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Speaker 6: Find a home.

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Speaker 9: Or like, how do you how do you structure what

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 9: goes here for eight bars?

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Speaker 8: And I have to change my theory on that lately

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01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 8: because they they got snapchats and short songs now and tiktoks,

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01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 8: so they can't be long songs too much no more.

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Speaker 8: So I have to like make ourselves stop otherwise I

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01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 8: just I'll just be going created crazy. And then I

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01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 8: know now that they can edit and take parts out,

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01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 8: so that really makes me, you know.

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Speaker 9: No, But I mean you're the originator of that, like,

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01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 9: because you know, if you tell somebody sing not just needy,

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01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 9: there's eight parts you can choose, and there's eight hooks.

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01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 3: And we all know which one.

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Speaker 8: That's what. That's what Prince said. He said, man, you

1182
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 8: got eight songs in the deep. He said, you can

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01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 8: sample them each part and make a whole song out

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Speaker 8: of it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, that's what made it great.

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Speaker 4: How many grand babies do you have, mister Quinn.

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01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 8: Man, I'm count them up so I remember that I

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01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 8: got to I got quite a few.

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Speaker 6: Okay, he's working. This is this conversation is long overdue.

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Speaker 6: I thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Do this.

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01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 7: Let's do this, man, we will do this.

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01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 6: And congrats on your your freedom and your your legacy.

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01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 3: Thank you very much and getting your ship back for real.

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01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 8: If you find if you got anybody that really wants

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 8: to join in on getting this stuff, let me know.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I'm on it.

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Speaker 9: I'll be calling okay, yes, and I'm Pep Bill answer

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Speaker 9: to Stephen pan Tickeolo. This Quest Love Supreme, Grand Imperial

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Speaker 9: Guide himself, George Clinton.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much. We will see you in the

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Speaker 6: next go around. The Quest Love Supreme.

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