WEBVTT - 070624 Muslim Women’s Hijabs Being Torn Off by Police (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you to another episode of Civic Cipher, where our

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<v Speaker 1>mission is to foster allyship empathy and understanding. I am

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Rams's job.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Ramsey's job. I am q Ward. You are

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<v Speaker 2>tuned into Civic siden, Yes you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are, and we got some stuff to talk about today,

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<v Speaker 1>so please stick around. Today. We are going to stand

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<v Speaker 1>in solidarity with our Muslim sisters, in particular because, as

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, Muslim women are having their hit jobs

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<v Speaker 1>torn off by police all over America, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that we wanted to talk about and we really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to have a Muslim woman on the show, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just hasn't timed out, and we wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we got to the conversation while it was

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<v Speaker 1>still more or less in the news, so that you

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<v Speaker 1>could you find the articles and do whatever research you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do to supplement that. Also, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>spend some time talking about Donald Trump, Joe Biden, their debate,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Supreme Court. So some housekeeping, some maintenance, some

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<v Speaker 1>catching up that we've had to do because we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really been able to spend anytime in the past few

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<v Speaker 1>episodes discussing the goings on that are central to politics

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<v Speaker 1>in this country and exactly what is at stake, And

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<v Speaker 1>so we are going to again spend some time discussing.

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<v Speaker 1>Really we have to talk about the Supreme Court because

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<v Speaker 1>we are kind of in some unprecedented scary times. But

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<v Speaker 1>also we need to, you know, speak to the concerns

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding the two candidates and help each other because we're

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<v Speaker 1>still processing it as well, but help each other reconcile

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<v Speaker 1>what a path forward looks like. There will be a

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<v Speaker 1>path forward. We do have to make a decision as

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<v Speaker 1>a country, and we need to make sure that it's

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<v Speaker 1>the right one. So that and so much more to

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<v Speaker 1>stick around for here on Civic Cipher. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>get there, like we always do it, this time, let's

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<v Speaker 1>start off with excellence, shall we? I think you shall.

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<v Speaker 1>Real quick, I want to add something before we move

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<v Speaker 1>on that a lot of times non black people will

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<v Speaker 1>look at black stuff like it's not for them. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's rarely is that true? And I think actively

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<v Speaker 1>So again, we wanted to cover this story a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit sooner because we had heard about these instances of

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim women at the protest on the college campuses in

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<v Speaker 1>support of Palestine being attacked on the campuses and specifically

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<v Speaker 1>having their hit jobs removed, and that is something that

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<v Speaker 1>was always very sensitive. It's a sensitive topic, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>To Q into me, we know people who are Muslim,

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<v Speaker 1>and then women in particular, we know how much discrimination

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<v Speaker 1>and fear comes with wearing that out in public, because

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<v Speaker 1>there are people who are looking for the easily identifiable

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<v Speaker 1>others in this country, as Q would say, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's kind of like a wheel that keeps turning. For

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<v Speaker 1>a while. It'll be Black people for a while, It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, Mexican people for a while. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>Asian people for a while, It'll be folks from the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East, Muslim people, et cetera. But you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>all noticed something around here in two thousand and one

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<v Speaker 1>because we were alive back then, but we noticed that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there was a shift in the country in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the country approached Muslim people, and the

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<v Speaker 1>way the news covered Muslim people, and the way that

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<v Speaker 1>the jokes went back and forth on stage about Muslim people.

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<v Speaker 1>And somehow the faith known as Islam became associated with

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<v Speaker 1>terrorism and suicide bombings and all of these things that

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<v Speaker 1>that is not what the faith is about. Just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of background on me. I grew up Christian.

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<v Speaker 1>My father was a Christian minister, but my father had

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<v Speaker 1>his doctorate in theology, meaning that he had to study

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<v Speaker 1>all of the religions, not just Christianity. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I've said many times throughout my life

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<v Speaker 1>is that where education exists, prejudice cannot. And often enough,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the truth. Education and prejudice are like natural enemies

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<v Speaker 1>to each other. My father was not a prejudiced man

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<v Speaker 1>when it came to other faiths, certainly not Abrahamic religions

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<v Speaker 1>like Islam, like Judaism, because they are all born from

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<v Speaker 1>the same sort of root system and as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of that, we were not raised me, my brothers, my sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>We were not raised to regard Christianity as something that

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<v Speaker 1>is greater than or lesser than any other faith. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so once nine to eleven took place and people

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<v Speaker 1>who subscribed to Islam for their faith became under attack

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<v Speaker 1>and under this intense scrutiny, my heart was broken for them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did my best to you know, stand in solidarity.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I was a kid at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you just do what you can on

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<v Speaker 1>your college campus or whatever. You know, not certainly weren't

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<v Speaker 1>at a level we're at now, right. But I remember

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<v Speaker 1>talking to people who lived through that time, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>again we have friends who lived through that time, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have told us how scary that was and how

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<v Speaker 1>they had to hide a piece of themselves and had

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, for safety and for fear. Right. And

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<v Speaker 1>I discovered how important he jobs are. It's not unlike

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for Jewish folks who wear yamakas or keep

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<v Speaker 1>us right. And there are Jewish women who cover their

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<v Speaker 1>hair as well. They're Catholic women, you know, Nuns cover

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<v Speaker 1>their hair. You know what I mean. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>something that's exclusive to one faith. But for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>in this country after nine to eleven, in particular, that

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<v Speaker 1>his job started to be associated with terrorism and anti

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<v Speaker 1>americanism and so forth and so on, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>folks that felt like this is America would see that

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<v Speaker 1>as a symbol of anti American hate, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it became a target. And we've heard over the years

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<v Speaker 1>people wearing hit jobs being attacked, their hard jobs being

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<v Speaker 1>snatched off at schools and places like this. And I

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<v Speaker 1>will say this out loud, and I know you feel

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<v Speaker 1>the same way. If I was ever to witness someone's

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<v Speaker 1>a job being torn off, like in my peripheral, that

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<v Speaker 1>is the sort of thing that would make me like

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<v Speaker 1>I might lose my life on a day like that,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just I realized the amount of I realize

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<v Speaker 1>what goes into that, you know what I mean. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not a commitment to a culture as much as it

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<v Speaker 1>is a commitment to God. And I believe that the

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<v Speaker 1>bond between a human being and their faith is sacred.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been all over the world seen faith expressed through

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<v Speaker 1>every type of human being that they make. I've hiked

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<v Speaker 1>mountains to see people pray to statues of Buddha. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in Muslim countries. I've been to the Grand Mosque

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<v Speaker 1>in Abu Dhabi. I've been to synagogues, I've been to temples.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been allowed to pray with seek people. You name

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<v Speaker 1>it again, My dad did right by us. You made

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we weren't afraid or prejudice.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I believe in attack on someone's faith, it's attack

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<v Speaker 1>on their hope, it's attack on their dreams and so forth. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this story stood out to me, and again we

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to do it right. But enough time has

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<v Speaker 1>passed and enough of these stories have come about that

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<v Speaker 1>today is the right time. Now, I've said a lot

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<v Speaker 1>be gaming the picture. I feel like you got to

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<v Speaker 1>jump in here.

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<v Speaker 2>So you said that education and prejudice don't often share

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<v Speaker 2>the same space, and I want to push back a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit and say that intelligence and enlightenment. There we go,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been prejudiced don't often share the same spaces. We

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<v Speaker 2>see very highly educated people go to the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>to shut down affirmative action, to shut down diversity, equity

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<v Speaker 2>and inclusion, and to shut down things like the Fearless Fund.

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<v Speaker 2>And those people are highly educated in law degree things

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<v Speaker 2>in that and our self. With enlightenment, empathy and intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>prejudice typically ceases to exist. Education doesn't seem to mean

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<v Speaker 2>much with regards to that, because these leaders have attended

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard Law and gotten scholarly mentions and degrees and put

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<v Speaker 2>on all of robes and capes and all of these things,

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<v Speaker 2>and they still are blatantly prejudiced and racist and bigoted

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<v Speaker 2>and homophobic and xenophobic, and the list goes on and on. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely go with that empathy. The thing that is

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<v Speaker 2>done so effectively by those who very intentionally other people

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<v Speaker 2>is the removal of empathy because I'm not the one

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<v Speaker 2>being attacked, so that they really don't have nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with me. And they've done such a masterful job

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<v Speaker 2>of splintering us into people, I mean into pieces rather

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<v Speaker 2>not into people, so that we do not approach things

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<v Speaker 2>as members of the human race. We approach things as

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<v Speaker 2>black people, as tribes, we approach things as members of

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<v Speaker 2>the LGBTQ plus community. We approach things as women, we

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<v Speaker 2>approach things as Christian, we approach things as Muslim, separately

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<v Speaker 2>broken into these tribes. Because if we ever looked next

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<v Speaker 2>to one another and realized that we were all fighting

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<v Speaker 2>for the same thing. We would fight together, and we

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<v Speaker 2>would storm the streets of this country, probably daily, but

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<v Speaker 2>we'll storm it, you and I and our small group,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the other groups will look in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>support from a distance or you know, obstruct us, but

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not join in because that's not their fight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And what we're seeing happen in this country, even today,

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<v Speaker 2>right now as we record this is everyone watching everyone

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<v Speaker 2>go through their own plight and just kind of watching

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<v Speaker 2>it happen. And you know, thoughts and prayers and wish

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<v Speaker 2>you the best. But this should be the most of

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<v Speaker 2>it should be one of the most offensive stories and

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<v Speaker 2>headlines in the news. But there's a mixture of so

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<v Speaker 2>many awful things happening and so many people kind of

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<v Speaker 2>not caring because it doesn't apply to them. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people that would be grossly offended if someone removed their

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<v Speaker 2>yamaka from their head are not moved at all by

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<v Speaker 2>this story. They should be enraged. They should be enraged

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<v Speaker 2>because they know how they'd feel where the shoe. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other foot, it's not like they're not enlightened enough

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<v Speaker 2>to know, or not educated enough or not to know,

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<v Speaker 2>or not mature enough to know, they know exactly how

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<v Speaker 2>they'd feel if placed in that same position. So when

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<v Speaker 2>we don't storm the streets for one another, when we

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<v Speaker 2>don't stand up for one another, when we do not

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<v Speaker 2>platform one another, it's very, very discouraging because we should

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<v Speaker 2>be just as angry. I should be just as angry

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<v Speaker 2>by a Muslim woman having to deal with this as

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<v Speaker 2>I was when my son was kicked and called the

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<v Speaker 2>N word at school. I should be just as angry.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you find a way to make me just

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<v Speaker 2>not care enough right here, you got your own problems

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about, can't worry about those people's problems too.

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<v Speaker 2>You effectively isolated those people and remove the power of

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<v Speaker 2>empathy and solidarity with our fellow human beings. There are

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<v Speaker 2>so many ways that they masterfully divide us and force

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<v Speaker 2>us to not be there for one another. I told

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<v Speaker 2>a young lady yesterday who started a business recently, and

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<v Speaker 2>through conversation she ended up asking me what can we

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<v Speaker 2>do for each other? And she didn't mean me and her,

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<v Speaker 2>she meant people, And I said, continue to show up

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<v Speaker 2>for one another. That's the most It's not the money,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually caring and showing up. You know, Ramsey and

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<v Speaker 2>I are working on something really important with regards to

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<v Speaker 2>allyship right now, and I hear people that don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the word allyship or the idea of it, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something that you're missing. We cannot do this alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever this is for whoever's listening, whatever that mission is

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<v Speaker 2>that you have, whatever that plight is that you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get over or get through, you cannot do it

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<v Speaker 2>by yourself. We cannot do it by ourselves. So stories

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<v Speaker 2>like this should inferior us. You should not have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a Muslim woman for this to I almost use

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<v Speaker 2>the bad way for this to make you upset. You

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<v Speaker 2>should just have to think about how you would feel

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<v Speaker 2>if your self determination was being torn off of you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>if your sense of self, if your sense of pride,

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<v Speaker 2>if your sense of love, if your sense of joy,

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<v Speaker 2>if your deity was being snatched away from you, how

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<v Speaker 2>would you feel? And if you are a person that's atheist,

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<v Speaker 2>you care about something, you care about someone. If you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking to you just to make that simple,

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<v Speaker 2>to make that plan. If you don't care about anything

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<v Speaker 2>or anyone, the message is not for you, but for

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<v Speaker 2>most of us that do care about something or someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine that thing or that person being snatched away from you,

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<v Speaker 2>and imagine how that would make you feel. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>how you should feel. Every time you read a headline,

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<v Speaker 2>every time you hear or see a story where someone's

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<v Speaker 2>dignity and self determination and self worth and love and

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<v Speaker 2>heart is being torn away from them and they're being

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<v Speaker 2>denied their most basic rights, you should be infuriated, even

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<v Speaker 2>if it does not knock on your door.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to follow that up with the actual article

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<v Speaker 1>that we chose to base today's conversation on, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much it's going to add because I

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<v Speaker 1>think you said everything that we needed to hear. You

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<v Speaker 1>well said. This comes from the nation. The title is

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim women are having their hit jobs turn off by

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<v Speaker 1>police Oliver America. The influx of arrests of Muslim women

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<v Speaker 1>at pro Palestine protests highlights a critical flaw in the

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<v Speaker 1>criminal justice system. The hijob is an expression of a

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim woman's faith, symbolizing modesty, privacy, and agency over one's body,

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<v Speaker 1>and depriving a woman of that coverage can be humiliating

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<v Speaker 1>and traumatizing. That's one of the things I want everybody

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<v Speaker 1>listening to know. Some women have a clear First Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>right to keep their heads covered for religious purposes, including

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<v Speaker 1>in spaces where others might have to remove head coverings.

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<v Speaker 1>Reflecting this, the Bureau of Prisons allows for incarcerated Muslims

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<v Speaker 1>to keep their jobs on in federal prisons, and at

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<v Speaker 1>least seventeen states, including New York, specifically allow for religious

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<v Speaker 1>headcoverings to be worn throughout a prison. Yet there are

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<v Speaker 1>no federal laws that explicitly protect a woman's right to

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<v Speaker 1>keep on her job while being arrested in police custody

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<v Speaker 1>or in a temporary holding facility, either for a mugshot

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<v Speaker 1>or otherwise. The difficulty that Muslim women have experienced is

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<v Speaker 1>also reflective in the general vitual that Muslim women have

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<v Speaker 1>been facing in activism spaces. Even even before pro Palestine

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<v Speaker 1>solidarity encampment spread across American universities, many Muslim activists had

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<v Speaker 1>already been experiencing violations of their religious liberties. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to share this story because it's really important, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it helps paint the picture and gives you some

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<v Speaker 1>human insight and to what this is like and for

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<v Speaker 1>those that are not Muslim, for those that don't have

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<v Speaker 1>these cultural elements that are so dear to you. Suffice

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<v Speaker 1>it to say that the belief in this is worth

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<v Speaker 1>dying for, and people have died for it. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps among the most significant of beliefs that a human

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<v Speaker 1>being can have. It's that important. I don't care how

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<v Speaker 1>much hatred you have. A human being deserves dignity. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess hatred and dignity, and how much you don't like somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>a human being deserves dignity, So I'll share. Jannan, a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven year old engineer from Maryland who requested to

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<v Speaker 1>keep her last name anonymous, was arrested in March while

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<v Speaker 1>protesting in front of the Israeli Nbascy in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 1>While in custody, Janan said she was ordered to take

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<v Speaker 1>off her job for a mugshot. Confused and uncomfortable, she

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<v Speaker 1>asked countless questions like who would be seeing the photos?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even need to go on who asked that question?

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it? Who would ask a question like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's going to see these photos? Say for a person

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<v Speaker 1>where it's that important to them that their hair is covered.

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<v Speaker 1>Other questions do people normally resist here? In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not resisting. You have me, I'm in your custody.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to deny my God in this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jannan eventually complied and took off her head covering

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<v Speaker 1>fearful that her resistance in the jail would impact the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome of her charges. Quote. I felt awful. I felt violated, confused, stunned, naked.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt the most important thing to me was taken away.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about other women. There needs to be a

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<v Speaker 1>system in place if a Hijabi woman or if a

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim gets arrested, where do they pray? And again, for

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<v Speaker 1>those aren't who are intimately familiar with this faith, this

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<v Speaker 1>next question, this is a mouthful yeah, yes, yes, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I put it there. So you put these

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<v Speaker 1>women at an intersection of do you comply with God

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<v Speaker 1>or do you comply with the police? And if you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know anything about the Muslim faith, you

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<v Speaker 1>do know something about faith in general. And there are people,

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<v Speaker 1>countless people, millions, maybe billions of people who have chosen

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<v Speaker 1>God throughout the existence of human beings over whatever else.

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<v Speaker 1>Faith is that strong belief in a better tomorrow for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and your posterity. Is that strong A higher power,

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<v Speaker 1>a purpose is that strong. It's that powerful of a motivator.

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<v Speaker 1>Once upon a time, we had a Muslim man coming

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<v Speaker 1>here just to tag onto that where do they pray thing?

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<v Speaker 1>He came and prayed in our studio. He did his

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<v Speaker 1>episode with his name Resistance is Beautiful. Please look him

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<v Speaker 1>up on social media. Is a real one. Love that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to take a moment to pray. For those

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know, Muslim people will pray five times a day.

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<v Speaker 1>And this studio never felt more blessed than that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not overly you know, religious folks here, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what we are. But there's something very special and

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<v Speaker 1>very sacred about a person following their faith. And here

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<v Speaker 1>on this show, we wanted to bring your attention to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that this is a thing that's happening to

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<v Speaker 1>our Muslim sisters, that they deserve your protection, they deserve

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<v Speaker 1>your voice, they deserve your support. And when and if

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<v Speaker 1>legislation makes its way to protect Hijabi women in the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that the Crown Act was passed and so

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<v Speaker 1>forth and so on, we need to show up for them,

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<v Speaker 1>because they deserve that, and anyone who chooses to exercise

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<v Speaker 1>their religious freedoms however they however, it's consistent with their faith,

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<v Speaker 1>so food for thought, bearing in mind,