Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey there, folks, it is Saturday, May third. Welcome to
Speaker 2: this weekend edition of Morning Run where we discuss a
Speaker 2: little further some of the things you heard on our
Speaker 2: Monday through Friday Morning Run. Roads were calling this what
Speaker 2: got us because a lot of things we discussed and
Speaker 2: talked about during the week really got us fired up,
Speaker 2: got us worked up, but we didn't get to talk
Speaker 2: about it that much.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: We try to keep things brief on the Morning Run,
Speaker 1: but we find that we've often had a lot more
Speaker 1: to say about some of these stories. So this is
Speaker 1: the place to do it where we go in a
Speaker 1: little deeper and give some insights and thoughts to the
Speaker 1: big headlines.
Speaker 3: Of the week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of this stuff got us going
Speaker 2: and absolutely got us worked up, so we got let's
Speaker 2: see here six stories for you today. We're going to
Speaker 2: go a little deeper on those six stories. One of
Speaker 2: them the most expensive prank call in history. Story two,
Speaker 2: the movie centers still doing Gangbusters. Story three, kind of
Speaker 2: brother Golf with the President without facing clash. Story four.
Speaker 2: A climber rescued twice from Mount Fuji in the same week,
Speaker 2: Story six Katy Perry finally gets an apology. Went to
Speaker 2: three four five. That was story five. See I'm off y'all.
Speaker 2: Story six though, is Trump getting his Marie Antoinette moment.
Speaker 2: So we got six stories for you today. Let's start.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the top. This is a story a
Speaker 2: lot of folks were talking about. We're going to go
Speaker 2: a little deeper here. Shadure Sanders, you know, the superstar
Speaker 2: quarterback for Colorado, the sun of Hall of Famer Dion Sanders,
Speaker 2: got a prank call during the draft. A lot of
Speaker 2: folks robes he was the biggest story of the draft
Speaker 2: already because he had dropped drop to drop. Nobody was
Speaker 2: drafting him. Gets a prank call from from someone who
Speaker 2: got his number because they stole it from a coach
Speaker 2: from the Atlanta Falcons. So the backstory there is, yes,
Speaker 2: the son of a coach took the phone number of
Speaker 2: Shadua Sanders off of an open iPad at his dad's house.
Speaker 2: He took it for the purpose of doing a prank
Speaker 2: call later, and sure enough they did. Robes, would you
Speaker 2: were so excited when I first told you, say, hey,
Speaker 2: NFL has fined the Atlanta Falcons and that coach a
Speaker 2: total of three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Your first
Speaker 2: reaction was good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think in these moments, something that egregious
Speaker 1: and that disgusting shouldn't be overlooked or considered funny or
Speaker 1: not a big deal. This and you were following the
Speaker 1: Shadur drama the entire weekend, waiting to see when he
Speaker 1: was going to get drafted. President Trump even weighed in, saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you fools, this guy was supposed to go as perhaps
Speaker 1: even the number one draft pick, maybe even in the
Speaker 1: top three.
Speaker 3: So to go in round five was.
Speaker 1: Already heartbreaking for the kid because a lot of people
Speaker 1: pointed to the fact that what people were saying about
Speaker 1: him anonymously for whatever reason, probably had a huge negative
Speaker 1: impact on how low he dropped. Actually, so he was
Speaker 1: already dealing with other people weighing in and talking and
Speaker 1: saying stuff.
Speaker 2: It was painful. I mean that was painful enough, just
Speaker 2: the reality of it. And we're not here now. It's
Speaker 2: plenty of debate about who said what and why and
Speaker 2: anonymous sources and race playing a factor, and as dad
Speaker 2: playing a factor. We are not going to get into that.
Speaker 2: There are plenty places having that discussion. This for us
Speaker 2: was just on a human level. All as bad as
Speaker 2: that stuff was, this was a downright dirty and mean
Speaker 2: and mean spirited in a way that was disgusting right
Speaker 2: to me at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's already he was already dealing with that backlash,
Speaker 1: and then to have this added to it just seemed
Speaker 1: so cruel because here's this kid. Imagine you worked your
Speaker 1: whole life, you know, people are talking crap about you,
Speaker 1: and now you get a phone call and it's someone
Speaker 1: pranking you, telling you the New Orleans Saints want to
Speaker 1: pick you up.
Speaker 3: Is that that's what was the New Orleans Saints? Correct?
Speaker 2: I think which day it was that he got the
Speaker 2: prank call. It wasn't on day one, so he had
Speaker 2: already waited and waited and waited. The kid continues to wait.
Speaker 2: He is literally waiting on this phone to ring, and
Speaker 2: it's a phone that's only supposed to ring if an
Speaker 2: NFL team is calling to draft him. Because these kids
Speaker 2: were given these phones that were for one use, one
Speaker 2: use only, because they had these private phone numbers that
Speaker 2: the NFL teams got. So when that phone rings, his
Speaker 2: heart's racing. He thinks his life is about to change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I know.
Speaker 1: You know, and put yourself in that situation, put your
Speaker 1: kid in that situation, and then imagine how that would
Speaker 1: feel to see someone messing with him who's already been
Speaker 1: messed with a lot.
Speaker 2: This is one of those things I'd tell everybody just
Speaker 2: this is a lesson in just being kind. I was
Speaker 2: really really upset and worked up about this story and
Speaker 2: talked about how much of a fan I am now
Speaker 2: of Shador Santa's because of all he went through. But
Speaker 2: then we got word robes that the dad and the
Speaker 2: son actually did call Dion and Shadour to apologize, and
Speaker 2: I think that's when I settled, because they gave grace
Speaker 2: maybe when I wasn't even.
Speaker 1: That's right exactly. So this is Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: Jeff Ulbrick and his son Jax Ulbrick, and yeah, they
Speaker 1: made the call and apologize, But as you point out,
Speaker 1: it was really really really cool that they said and
Speaker 1: made a point to say how wonderful both Dion and
Speaker 1: Shadeur were. They were not only gracious, but almost too gracious.
Speaker 1: I think that's what Jack said, like or Jeff said,
Speaker 1: that was even more gracious than he needed to.
Speaker 2: Be, than they deserved from them in that moment. So
Speaker 2: in that moment, people make mistakes. And this kid that
Speaker 2: did it, the son who stole the number in the
Speaker 2: first place, twenty one years old. That's an adult and
Speaker 2: you supposed a known better. But at twenty one, we
Speaker 2: all learned some lessons that we didn't know. And I really, really,
Speaker 2: really really really hope this. I think Dion and Schruduur's
Speaker 2: reaction is the one that teaches a bigger lesson for
Speaker 2: all of us and me as well in this You've
Speaker 2: got to give people grace. Sometimes. The dude messed up,
Speaker 2: messed up bad with the prank call, But to be
Speaker 2: able to say it's okay and be gracious and forgive
Speaker 2: it's a huge moment in the story.
Speaker 1: For me, it's it actually turned into a beautiful story,
Speaker 1: and that just shows you the power of forgiveness, the
Speaker 1: power of grace, and it's a reminder to us all
Speaker 1: I felt like, yeah, I could rest.
Speaker 3: My heart was racing and beating.
Speaker 1: I was so angry and upset for the Sanders family
Speaker 1: and then to see it all play out the way
Speaker 1: it did, and you know, for the sun to make
Speaker 1: a very public apology. What I did was completely an excusable,
Speaker 1: embarrassing and shameful. I'm so sorry I took away from
Speaker 1: your moment. It was selfish and childish. He said, I
Speaker 1: made a terrible mistake and messed with that moment. And yes,
Speaker 1: the finds three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So with
Speaker 1: all of that said, it actually this is a rare
Speaker 1: moment where you have a controversial story, a story where
Speaker 1: someone's behaved badly, there's an apology, and then there's an
Speaker 1: acceptance of that apology that ends up being a beautiful
Speaker 1: lesson for us all.
Speaker 2: H My story number two we want to get to
Speaker 2: on this weekend or morning run is you've heard about Sinners.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen it yet. You probably will,
Speaker 2: just because everybody's telling you how good it is. And
Speaker 2: it is. But it is doing gangbusters at the theater
Speaker 2: right now. It's continuing to do so. It's supposed to
Speaker 2: have another good weekend and they have even now Robes
Speaker 2: re released the movie in some Imax theaters. It's doing
Speaker 2: that well in demand for it. The part of the
Speaker 2: story here that's so significant, not just a successful movie
Speaker 2: by a couple of successful guys, Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan,
Speaker 2: but robes. We don't see this anymore that an original
Speaker 2: story gets the backing, gets the funding, gets the big treatment,
Speaker 2: and then it delivers that it could be a game
Speaker 2: changing moment or at least shift we're seeing in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: It's very cool because yes, it was an original story.
Speaker 1: This isn't a story we've heard before or we know before.
Speaker 1: And to think that this was this is a story
Speaker 1: about vampires and the blues, and it was the racist South,
Speaker 1: Jim Crow laws and you've got so many storylines going. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a horror movie, but it also is a little
Speaker 1: bit of a musical, and it's also a thriller, and
Speaker 1: there were some comedic moments. I mean, it really just
Speaker 1: packed a punch on so many genres and it was
Speaker 1: really incredible.
Speaker 3: It was just beautiful to watch. It was true art.
Speaker 2: It was a great setting and had great soul. And
Speaker 2: there was some some lessons in there about not not
Speaker 2: judging a book by its cover, because this is happening
Speaker 2: in the South and there's a history there, and Ryan
Speaker 2: Cougler clearly has a passion for this. But there's about
Speaker 2: blues and music and where it comes from, and it's
Speaker 2: happening again the Jim Crow South. But then these white
Speaker 2: folks show up and you think it's about It was
Speaker 2: my favorite line of the movie when she said, Oh no,
Speaker 2: this ain't racism, this ain't hate. They vampires. It was
Speaker 2: my favorite line, and it kind of clicked for me.
Speaker 2: I was watching something a little different than I thought
Speaker 2: I was going into. Ryan Cougler's brilliant. He got a
Speaker 2: wonderful deal in making this movie and it has delivered.
Speaker 2: So a lot of producers are kind of salivating thinking that, Wow,
Speaker 2: maybe the studios will be open to these kind of
Speaker 2: deals for directors and producers. But I'm glad to see
Speaker 2: an original story doing well.
Speaker 1: An original story with a predominantly black cast, with a
Speaker 1: story about black people in that era. And when we
Speaker 1: saw the movie theater, I mean we actually had to
Speaker 1: movie theater shop to try and find open seats. But
Speaker 1: it was filled with so many different colors and faces
Speaker 1: and ages like it was cool to see it resonate
Speaker 1: with people from all walks of life. And it was
Speaker 1: a beautiful story that needed to be told that hasn't
Speaker 1: been told before in a really, really creative way.
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen the movie yet and don't plan
Speaker 2: on seeing it, at least listen to the soundtrack. It's
Speaker 2: available on Spotify and everywhere. The soundtrack of this music
Speaker 2: and It's Not You said Rope is kind of a
Speaker 2: musical in there, not in the Amelia prays No No.
Speaker 2: It doesn't just come randomly out of nowhere. It's very
Speaker 2: it's played strategically and purposefully.
Speaker 1: Yes, don't want to scare anyone off who doesn't like
Speaker 1: it when people burst into song. And I think TJ
Speaker 1: you're among those people who find it a little bit
Speaker 1: difficult when you're into a dialogue and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden someone starts singing. That is not what happens here.
Speaker 1: But there are some amazing musical moments throughout it that
Speaker 1: actually make it so fun to listen to. I'm actually
Speaker 1: going to run to the soundtrack today when we go
Speaker 1: on our run because it's that powerful and inspiring.
Speaker 2: All right, Story number three for us, it's about Saquon Barkley, he,
Speaker 2: of course, superstar running back for the Philadelphia Eagles, superstar
Speaker 2: and Super Bowl winning running back. The Eagles were in
Speaker 2: town this week to visit the White House. You know,
Speaker 2: the traditional champions visit to the White House to be honored.
Speaker 2: But the day before, Saquon Barkley, who is black, went
Speaker 2: golfing with President Trump, who is white, and so a
Speaker 2: lot of people took issues and he faced a huge backlash.
Speaker 2: Row But that's the question. Can a black man, black
Speaker 2: person ever be friendly with the president in a social
Speaker 2: setting and not expect to get a huge backlash for
Speaker 2: the optics of such a thing.
Speaker 1: Do you think it was purely a black white thing
Speaker 1: or was it also a Republican Democrat thing? Was it
Speaker 1: also you know, That's where I'm curious if both things
Speaker 1: were true, that both things were offensive to the people
Speaker 1: who were upset that he took his time to golf
Speaker 1: with President Trump.
Speaker 2: It's coming from two different places for him. Yes, there
Speaker 2: could have been I don't know, name some popular artists
Speaker 2: who happens to be white who goes golfing. Then you
Speaker 2: might have some Democrats some liberals going wow, I was
Speaker 2: a fan of yours. I can't believe you, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: It comes off in a lot of the language as
Speaker 2: some type of betrayal or turning your back on the
Speaker 2: black community or minorities by being not just respectful to
Speaker 2: the office, but you're getting chummy with the man in
Speaker 2: the office. It's having lunch and posing for pictures and
Speaker 2: going for golf comes off to people as you and
Speaker 2: he put out a statement saying I respect the office, Like,
Speaker 2: get off my back. I golf for President Obama too,
Speaker 2: what's the big deal? That was the part that I
Speaker 2: think set people off even more and even made me
Speaker 2: raise my eyebrow. That you for him to It seemed
Speaker 2: tone depth that you don't understand why people would see
Speaker 2: you golfing with Obama differently than golfing with Trump, even
Speaker 2: golfing with Biden differently than golfing with Trump.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what I was wondering. I mean, someone
Speaker 1: else would that be just as much of an issue.
Speaker 1: But what he wrote on social media, what you were
Speaker 1: appointing to He actually started his post with lol, which
Speaker 1: just shows you he wasn't, or at least at that moment,
Speaker 1: wasn't taking it too seriously or didn't realize how seriously
Speaker 1: people were offended or upset. He said, Lol, some people
Speaker 1: are really upset because I played golf and flew to
Speaker 1: the White House with the President. Maybe I just respect
Speaker 1: the office not a hard concept to understand. It's also
Speaker 1: very flippant and kind of basically saying, hey, y'all are stupid.
Speaker 1: Of course I'm going to say yes to golfing with
Speaker 1: the president?
Speaker 2: Would you? Can?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: Would you if he offered to say, Hey, we'd like
Speaker 2: to go for lunch with you all at a very
Speaker 2: public restaurant in New York City? Would you do that?
Speaker 1: As a journalist or as a human being? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the tough question.
Speaker 2: Should it make a difference?
Speaker 1: Well, I think as a journalist it would be yes,
Speaker 1: an interesting moment to be able to report on or
Speaker 1: talk about having had that experience, being able to have
Speaker 1: a conversation with him, ask him questions.
Speaker 2: This is social and we could do that behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: you have an off camera chat or whatever. This is
Speaker 2: a social invitation.
Speaker 3: That's a tough one, right, you know I don't.
Speaker 2: But then your answer is why you know why you.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't because of the optics.
Speaker 2: Because of the optics, I don't know. If there's another
Speaker 2: president you would say, wait a minute, let me think
Speaker 2: about it first. If you got that kind of invitation,
Speaker 2: and look, this has to do with social media and
Speaker 2: how polarizing people are, and how split and divisive things
Speaker 2: and how nasty they are. That yes, and this is
Speaker 2: a different guy we need to acknowledge.
Speaker 1: And it has something to do with gues President Trump himself.
Speaker 1: You said people are polari He's polarizing period period. And
Speaker 1: so you know, if you publicly sit with him, have
Speaker 1: a social outing with him, there are going to be
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are going to be disappointed
Speaker 1: and upset because they think he stands for something that
Speaker 1: is in direct contrast to what they value.
Speaker 2: And so say, go on, bark and look, we've grown man.
Speaker 2: You can do whatever. You won't knock yourself out. Now.
Speaker 2: The criticism of that, it was just bizarre that he
Speaker 2: didn't wreck, kick, nize or acknowledge at least say yes,
Speaker 2: I get it, he's on this, this and this, but
Speaker 2: I decision. You don't have to say anything if you
Speaker 2: don't want to.
Speaker 3: But then the thing he said there was just flippant,
Speaker 3: antone deaf, all right.
Speaker 2: Story numb before four styles, the one you loved because
Speaker 2: you've climbed Mount Fuji, but someone had to be rescued twice.
Speaker 2: He was in his twenties. I think a student, they said,
Speaker 2: But a Chinese student had to be rescued twice from
Speaker 2: Mount Fuji, rescued the first time because what was it rope?
Speaker 2: Sometimes it just happened. You get up there and you
Speaker 2: get sick if you're not prepped. That's second trip up
Speaker 2: was the problem.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, I mean so yes, anyone who's climbed mountains,
Speaker 1: basically it's kind of anything over nine thousand feet you
Speaker 1: can potentially get sick, altitude sickness, and you don't really
Speaker 1: know until you try.
Speaker 3: And so that's not his fault.
Speaker 1: The slower you go, the better chance you have of
Speaker 1: not feeling that altitude sickness.
Speaker 3: But this is serious.
Speaker 1: I mean, altitude sickness can kill you. So it's not
Speaker 1: just oh I don't feel so good, I have a headache,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to throw up. You actually
Speaker 1: can pass out and you actually can die. And people
Speaker 1: do each and every year attempting to climb major mountains.
Speaker 2: So with this climber, if at first you don't succeed,
Speaker 2: try to try again. I thought initially when they said
Speaker 2: he went up a second time and had to be
Speaker 2: rescued a second time because he got in trouble, I thought, yes,
Speaker 2: he failed the first time. He wanted to go back up.
Speaker 2: That's actually not why he went back up, and the
Speaker 2: reason he went back up is pissing people off.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: He went back up because he left his cell phone
Speaker 1: behind when he was rescued the first time, and so
Speaker 1: he tried to go all the way back up to
Speaker 1: find his cell phone, which was I believe four days later.
Speaker 1: The thought that the fact that he thought it would
Speaker 1: even be there also is interesting. But yes, when he
Speaker 1: went back up, he got sick again, so much so
Speaker 1: that he actually was like in feudal position. Another climber
Speaker 1: had to find him, call for help, and he had
Speaker 1: to be airlifted off the mountain again. And look, different
Speaker 1: countries have different policies about whether or not.
Speaker 3: They rescue people.
Speaker 1: Like I've learned the hard way, well we didn't attempt
Speaker 1: something when like the country of France says good luck
Speaker 1: on block, like, we will not rescue you if you
Speaker 1: decide to go up and put yourself in harm's way
Speaker 1: because you didn't pay attention to weather, et cetera.
Speaker 3: You're on your own.
Speaker 1: But Japan is one of those countries that will rescue
Speaker 1: you and won't charge you for the rescue efforts. But
Speaker 1: now there's a big call. People think he should pay
Speaker 1: or at least contribute to in some way be punished
Speaker 1: for pulling out resources for a second time and for
Speaker 1: a reason that a lot of people believe is pretty
Speaker 1: dang selfish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was some negligence there, I guess, and being irresponsible.
Speaker 2: And every time somebody has to be rescued, that means
Speaker 2: that some pilot and some copilot and somebody don't have
Speaker 2: to get in the helicopter and you have to do it.
Speaker 2: You're putting people at risk just because you want to
Speaker 2: go get your cell phone. I know we've all been desperate,
Speaker 2: left our cell phone someplace and had to go back
Speaker 2: and get it or whatever. Else. This is different, and
Speaker 2: it was just seems like it was so inconsiderate, yes
Speaker 2: of him to do so. So we'll see if changes
Speaker 2: are made, But that was one that you certainly got
Speaker 2: your attention for this guy going back for a cell phone.
Speaker 2: Starting number five for is Katy Perry. She finally gets
Speaker 2: an apology. First of all, why is everybody beating up
Speaker 2: on Katy Perry's I don't remember when she became such
Speaker 2: a punching back.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that people had such strong feelings about her.
Speaker 2: But why though, I don't know if.
Speaker 1: They don't like her music, if they think she.
Speaker 2: Is superstar, she's a hit maker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's an amazing entertainer. I listened to her music constantly.
Speaker 1: She's fun and energetic, and I feel like when you
Speaker 1: listen to her songs, she is very positive. Like I
Speaker 1: just I don't understand where there's this negative energy around her.
Speaker 1: It's I didn't actually even know that there was a
Speaker 1: group or a large enough group of people who just
Speaker 1: don't like her.
Speaker 2: She's just one that's an easy punching back for some reason.
Speaker 2: I'm sure she's done some things over the years that
Speaker 2: have set people off. And I remember she had a
Speaker 2: I can't even describe. It was a video she put
Speaker 2: out that people took issue with not too long, I
Speaker 2: can't remember whatever the reasons are. People took advantage of
Speaker 2: her going to Space and the Blue Origin, the celebrity
Speaker 2: ride with all women going up on that Jeff Bezos rocket.
Speaker 2: Everybody bounced on her. Yeah, like people criticize the trip,
Speaker 2: but she got an extended level and an extra level
Speaker 2: of hate that was alarming to me. Of course, from
Speaker 2: Wendy's as well. That put out some pretty nasty treeks
Speaker 2: tweets kind of taking shots at her, But she did
Speaker 2: get an apology this week from Lily Allen, who I
Speaker 2: wasn't that familiar with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and actually, in a way this story reminds me
Speaker 1: a little bit of the Shador Sanders story, because there
Speaker 1: is actually a beautiful ending to it, at least in
Speaker 1: some ways, because of Lily Allen and because of Katie
Speaker 1: Perry herself, Because again, I just we always have asked folks,
Speaker 1: so can you even imagine putting yourself in that position
Speaker 1: where you are just getting inundated for a decision you
Speaker 1: made to go to space.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a luxury space flight.
Speaker 1: Yes, some people did find it insensitive and tone deaf
Speaker 1: because of the economic hardships that are going on and
Speaker 1: where that money and all those resources could have been
Speaker 1: devoted to rather than sending six women up in space
Speaker 1: for ten minutes.
Speaker 2: We're not debating anybody taking issue with it. You can
Speaker 2: have a legit criticism and have a legit problem with it,
Speaker 2: no problem.
Speaker 1: But to then take that criticism on the trip itself
Speaker 1: and singularly focus it on Katy Perry is just mean
Speaker 1: spirited and Lily Allen. I think it was perhaps about
Speaker 1: a week later. A few days later, she said she
Speaker 1: reflected she thought about what she said on her podcast,
Speaker 1: and she this takes this is hard to admit. She said,
Speaker 1: I was mean, and she also said that she was
Speaker 1: recognizing her own internal misogyny, which is something that I
Speaker 1: had not heard before. I've never heard that phrase before.
Speaker 1: But it makes sense that perhaps it's in all of us,
Speaker 1: that especially among women, because we saw women attacking Katy
Speaker 1: Perry more so. I don't even know if I can
Speaker 1: think of a man. I'm sure there was one or
Speaker 1: a few.
Speaker 2: Go hunting for it. If you want to find a
Speaker 2: quote from a man, you have to go. But the
Speaker 2: headlines everywhere were very prominent. I mean several very prominent
Speaker 2: women who didn't just say I wish they'd have done this,
Speaker 2: or I don't know why, I wish those resources could
Speaker 2: have gone here. No, they attacked them for being gluttonous, showy,
Speaker 2: disgusting was a word that was toward you. So and
Speaker 2: that was all women. So internal misogyny. Look, you say
Speaker 2: it all the time. We have these stories as nobody
Speaker 2: meaner than women and women.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people love to write about women who are
Speaker 1: fighting cat fighting. Of course, that's just it always tends
Speaker 1: to take center stage. So in a moment of reflection,
Speaker 1: I think that Lily Allen just really thankfully saved the
Speaker 1: story in a way because she was willing to admit
Speaker 1: what she did and then on top of that say
Speaker 1: I'm sorry without defending it, just saying it was wrong
Speaker 1: and it was mean and I love that. And then
Speaker 1: Katie Perry actually went on social media this week and
Speaker 1: she did not she did not return fire. In fact,
Speaker 1: she just said I'm sending love to people who were upset. Basically,
Speaker 1: she said, I recognize that online hate is oftentimes filled
Speaker 1: with people who are hurting. So that was actually a
Speaker 1: really stand up way to handle a lot of anger
Speaker 1: unfairly levied against her was.
Speaker 2: Handled well by both of them. And again along the
Speaker 2: lines of the Shad Sander situation, you make a mistake
Speaker 2: and it's a bad, bad mistake, but then you come back,
Speaker 2: you apologize, and the person you apologize to gives you grace. Yes,
Speaker 2: we wish some of those things wouldn't have been said
Speaker 2: in the first place, but man, we're human beings and
Speaker 2: we make mistakes.
Speaker 1: And you say this all the time. Words matter, and
Speaker 1: sometimes we all use the wrong words. It's okay to
Speaker 1: admit it, and it's okay to apologize.
Speaker 2: I love the apologies. Story number six here, this was
Speaker 2: a doozy, and this was one you brought you you well,
Speaker 2: you brought the line to my attention. A lot of
Speaker 2: people would have seen this the headlines this week, but
Speaker 2: all the headlines said Trump says kids are going to
Speaker 2: get two dollars instead of thirty. There was a lot
Speaker 2: more to that story. But when you saw this, he
Speaker 2: was talking about the economy and kind of Americans having
Speaker 2: to pay me maybe deal with some uh, maybe have
Speaker 2: to cut back a little bit, deal with some pain
Speaker 2: in the economy. That was how he put it. You
Speaker 2: immediately said that was his Marie Antoinette moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was funny because we were just discussing it
Speaker 1: as we were writing the stories that day, and I said, wow,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a let them eat cake moment. And
Speaker 1: you looked it up and realized, apparently this isn't the
Speaker 1: first time. There have been a lot of moments over
Speaker 1: the years that people have specifically referenced Marie Antoinette when
Speaker 1: it came to what President Trump says about people. When
Speaker 1: they're suffering. It's an unreasonable thing to even assume. First
Speaker 1: of all, the people have thirty dollars, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: so instead of having thirty dollars, you'll just have too.
Speaker 1: That's not what we're talking about. People aren't able to
Speaker 1: put food on the table. People are struggling to pay
Speaker 1: their bills. People can't make their student loan payments. So
Speaker 1: to act as if it's just reducing your excess and
Speaker 1: then you'll be fine is just such a tone debt.
Speaker 1: We keep saying tone Depp. But that has been a
Speaker 1: lot of what made us talk this week.
Speaker 2: And if folks don't know, and again, I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to immediately recall the story. But Marie Antoinette is
Speaker 2: credited with saying this, you explained the story. I think
Speaker 2: you know it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Marie Antoinette, basically when her is during the
Speaker 1: French Revolution, is reportedly is to have said, when people
Speaker 1: were standing in long, long lines just to get bread,
Speaker 1: just to eat, she just said, let them eat cake.
Speaker 1: It's it's ridiculous, like, obviously they can't afford bread, so
Speaker 1: no one is able to pay for or afford an
Speaker 1: even greater luxury item such as cake.
Speaker 2: So it was quick dismissive way of it's an few
Speaker 2: of not acknowledging somebody else's struggle and pain. It was
Speaker 2: very dismissive in that. So with President Trump making that comment,
Speaker 2: obviously nobody's got once thirty dollars, maybe just have to
Speaker 2: get too. It did seem or it came off.
Speaker 1: Awful.
Speaker 2: It just came off.
Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy about that too, though, is
Speaker 1: that we're so at this point so used to Trump's
Speaker 1: superlatives and his comments where he's very oftentime leading the
Speaker 1: way in mean.
Speaker 3: Spirited phrases and just.
Speaker 1: It's almost if we give him a pass in a
Speaker 1: way like, oh, it's just Trump being Trump. But these
Speaker 1: types of things stay with people.
Speaker 3: People don't even necessarily.
Speaker 1: Remember what you say. They remember how you make them feel.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times with what he says and
Speaker 1: how he says it, people, it's it's hard not to
Speaker 1: be offended. And that's certainly what we saw with the
Speaker 1: doll statement this week, and.
Speaker 2: Again we get what he was trying to say, but
Speaker 2: he can put it in a way that only Trump
Speaker 2: can't and make you feel the way that well, only
Speaker 2: Trump can't. Before that is your Saturday morning run. Just
Speaker 2: some stuff that was on our mind. We didn't get
Speaker 2: a chance to discuss all this in further detail on
Speaker 2: our Monday through Friday morning run, but glad we got
Speaker 2: to chime in a little bit here. I hope you
Speaker 2: are having a good weekend, Keep running and keep running.
Speaker 1: With us some djail and I'm Amy Robock again. Have
Speaker 1: a great Saturday, everybody,