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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey there, folks, it is Saturday, May third. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: this weekend edition of Morning Run where we discuss a

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Speaker 2: little further some of the things you heard on our

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Speaker 2: Monday through Friday Morning Run. Roads were calling this what

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Speaker 2: got us because a lot of things we discussed and

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Speaker 2: talked about during the week really got us fired up,

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Speaker 2: got us worked up, but we didn't get to talk

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Speaker 2: about it that much.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: We try to keep things brief on the Morning Run,

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Speaker 1: but we find that we've often had a lot more

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Speaker 1: to say about some of these stories. So this is

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Speaker 1: the place to do it where we go in a

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Speaker 1: little deeper and give some insights and thoughts to the

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Speaker 1: big headlines.

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Speaker 3: Of the week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of this stuff got us going

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Speaker 2: and absolutely got us worked up, so we got let's

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Speaker 2: see here six stories for you today. We're going to

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Speaker 2: go a little deeper on those six stories. One of

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Speaker 2: them the most expensive prank call in history. Story two,

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Speaker 2: the movie centers still doing Gangbusters. Story three, kind of

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Speaker 2: brother Golf with the President without facing clash. Story four.

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Speaker 2: A climber rescued twice from Mount Fuji in the same week,

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Speaker 2: Story six Katy Perry finally gets an apology. Went to

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Speaker 2: Story six though, is Trump getting his Marie Antoinette moment.

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Speaker 2: So we got six stories for you today. Let's start.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the top. This is a story a

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Speaker 2: lot of folks were talking about. We're going to go

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Speaker 2: a little deeper here. Shadure Sanders, you know, the superstar

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Speaker 2: quarterback for Colorado, the sun of Hall of Famer Dion Sanders,

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Speaker 2: got a prank call during the draft. A lot of

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Speaker 2: already because he had dropped drop to drop. Nobody was

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Speaker 2: drafting him. Gets a prank call from from someone who

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Speaker 2: from the Atlanta Falcons. So the backstory there is, yes,

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Speaker 2: He took it for the purpose of doing a prank

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Speaker 2: call later, and sure enough they did. Robes, would you

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Speaker 2: were so excited when I first told you, say, hey,

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Speaker 2: NFL has fined the Atlanta Falcons and that coach a

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Speaker 2: total of three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Your first

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Speaker 2: reaction was good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think in these moments, something that egregious

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Speaker 1: not a big deal. This and you were following the

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Speaker 1: Shadur drama the entire weekend, waiting to see when he

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Speaker 1: was going to get drafted. President Trump even weighed in, saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: you fools, this guy was supposed to go as perhaps

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Speaker 3: So to go in round five was.

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Speaker 1: Already heartbreaking for the kid because a lot of people

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Speaker 1: impact on how low he dropped. Actually, so he was

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Speaker 2: It was painful. I mean that was painful enough, just

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Speaker 2: the reality of it. And we're not here now. It's

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Speaker 2: plenty of debate about who said what and why and

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Speaker 2: playing a factor. We are not going to get into that.

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Speaker 2: There are plenty places having that discussion. This for us

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's already he was already dealing with that backlash,

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Speaker 3: Is that that's what was the New Orleans Saints? Correct?

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Speaker 2: I think which day it was that he got the

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Speaker 1: You know, and put yourself in that situation, put your

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Speaker 2: This is one of those things I'd tell everybody just

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Speaker 1: That's right exactly. So this is Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: Be, than they deserved from them in that moment. So

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Speaker 1: For me, it's it actually turned into a beautiful story,

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Speaker 2: H My story number two we want to get to

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Speaker 2: on this weekend or morning run is you've heard about Sinners.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen it yet. You probably will,

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Speaker 2: just because everybody's telling you how good it is. And

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Speaker 2: it is. But it is doing gangbusters at the theater

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Speaker 2: but robes. We don't see this anymore that an original

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Speaker 1: It's very cool because yes, it was an original story.

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Speaker 1: This isn't a story we've heard before or we know before.

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Speaker 1: And to think that this was this is a story

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Speaker 2: I was going into. Ryan Cougler's brilliant. He got a

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Speaker 2: So a lot of producers are kind of salivating thinking that, Wow,

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Speaker 1: An original story with a predominantly black cast, with a

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Speaker 2: If you haven't seen the movie yet and don't plan

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Speaker 2: and It's Not You said Rope is kind of a

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Speaker 2: it's played strategically and purposefully.

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Speaker 1: Yes, don't want to scare anyone off who doesn't like

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Speaker 1: it when people burst into song. And I think TJ

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Speaker 2: All right, Story number three for us, it's about Saquon Barkley, he,

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Speaker 2: You can do whatever. You won't knock yourself out. Now.

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Speaker 2: Everybody bounced on her. Yeah, like people criticize the trip,

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Speaker 2: that was all women. So internal misogyny. Look, you say

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Speaker 2: it all the time. We have these stories as nobody

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and people love to write about women who are

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Speaker 1: fighting cat fighting. Of course, that's just it always tends

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Speaker 1: to take center stage. So in a moment of reflection,

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Speaker 1: I think that Lily Allen just really thankfully saved the

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Speaker 1: and it was mean and I love that. And then

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Speaker 1: Katie Perry actually went on social media this week and

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Speaker 1: she did not she did not return fire. In fact,

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Speaker 1: she just said I'm sending love to people who were upset. Basically,

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Speaker 1: really stand up way to handle a lot of anger

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Speaker 1: unfairly levied against her was.

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Speaker 2: Handled well by both of them. And again along the

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Speaker 2: lines of the Shad Sander situation, you make a mistake

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Speaker 2: and it's a bad, bad mistake, but then you come back,

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Speaker 2: you apologize, and the person you apologize to gives you grace. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we wish some of those things wouldn't have been said

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Speaker 2: in the first place, but man, we're human beings and

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Speaker 2: we make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And you say this all the time. Words matter, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes we all use the wrong words. It's okay to

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Speaker 2: I love the apologies. Story number six here, this was

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Speaker 2: a doozy, and this was one you brought you you well,

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Speaker 2: you brought the line to my attention. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people would have seen this the headlines this week, but

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Speaker 2: all the headlines said Trump says kids are going to

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Speaker 2: get two dollars instead of thirty. There was a lot

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Speaker 2: more to that story. But when you saw this, he

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Speaker 2: was talking about the economy and kind of Americans having

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Speaker 2: to pay me maybe deal with some uh, maybe have

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Speaker 2: to cut back a little bit, deal with some pain

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Speaker 2: in the economy. That was how he put it. You

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Speaker 2: immediately said that was his Marie Antoinette moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It was funny because we were just discussing it

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Speaker 1: that sounds like a let them eat cake moment. And

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Speaker 1: first time. There have been a lot of moments over

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Speaker 1: the years that people have specifically referenced Marie Antoinette when

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Speaker 1: it came to what President Trump says about people. When

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Speaker 1: they're suffering. It's an unreasonable thing to even assume. First

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Speaker 1: of all, the people have thirty dollars, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: so instead of having thirty dollars, you'll just have too.

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Speaker 1: That's not what we're talking about. People aren't able to

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Speaker 1: put food on the table. People are struggling to pay

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Speaker 1: their bills. People can't make their student loan payments. So

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Speaker 1: to act as if it's just reducing your excess and

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Speaker 1: then you'll be fine is just such a tone debt.

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Speaker 1: We keep saying tone Depp. But that has been a

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Speaker 1: lot of what made us talk this week.

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Speaker 2: And if folks don't know, and again, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: able to immediately recall the story. But Marie Antoinette is

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Speaker 2: credited with saying this, you explained the story. I think

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Speaker 2: you know it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Marie Antoinette, basically when her is during the

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Speaker 1: French Revolution, is reportedly is to have said, when people

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Speaker 1: were standing in long, long lines just to get bread,

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Speaker 1: just to eat, she just said, let them eat cake.

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Speaker 1: It's it's ridiculous, like, obviously they can't afford bread, so

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Speaker 1: no one is able to pay for or afford an

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Speaker 1: even greater luxury item such as cake.

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Speaker 2: So it was quick dismissive way of it's an few

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Speaker 2: of not acknowledging somebody else's struggle and pain. It was

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Speaker 2: very dismissive in that. So with President Trump making that comment,

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Speaker 2: obviously nobody's got once thirty dollars, maybe just have to

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Speaker 2: get too. It did seem or it came off.

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Speaker 1: Awful.

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Speaker 2: It just came off.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy about that too, though, is

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Speaker 1: that we're so at this point so used to Trump's

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Speaker 1: superlatives and his comments where he's very oftentime leading the

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Speaker 1: way in mean.

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Speaker 3: Spirited phrases and just.

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Speaker 1: It's almost if we give him a pass in a

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Speaker 1: way like, oh, it's just Trump being Trump. But these

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Speaker 1: types of things stay with people.

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Speaker 3: People don't even necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Remember what you say. They remember how you make them feel.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of times with what he says and

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Speaker 1: how he says it, people, it's it's hard not to

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Speaker 1: be offended. And that's certainly what we saw with the

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Speaker 1: doll statement this week, and.

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Speaker 2: Again we get what he was trying to say, but

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Speaker 2: he can put it in a way that only Trump

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Speaker 2: can't and make you feel the way that well, only

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Speaker 2: Trump can't. Before that is your Saturday morning run. Just

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Speaker 2: some stuff that was on our mind. We didn't get

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Speaker 2: a chance to discuss all this in further detail on

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Speaker 2: our Monday through Friday morning run, but glad we got

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Speaker 2: to chime in a little bit here. I hope you

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Speaker 2: are having a good weekend, Keep running and keep running.

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Speaker 1: With us some djail and I'm Amy Robock again. Have

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Speaker 1: a great Saturday, everybody,