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Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant was the latest guest on the Mind the

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Speaker 3: Game podcast. It was actually the second part of his

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Speaker 3: interview aired on Tuesday morning, and during the conversation, Kevin

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Speaker 3: Durant was discussing the importance of being committed and locked

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Speaker 3: in to the day to day process. That's part of

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Speaker 3: the reason why he's been able to play so long

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Speaker 3: while the bronv plays so long. Steph Curry, Guys like

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Speaker 3: that is because they understand that part of longevity means

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Speaker 3: falling in love with the process.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 5: During the course of his end.

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Speaker 6: It's not because they don't play tough defense anymore and

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Speaker 6: it's easy to score than ever before.

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Speaker 7: To see you the other During the course of his answer,

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Speaker 7: as he was explaining the importance of being locked in,

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Speaker 7: KD may or may not have taken a shot of

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Speaker 7: your favorite player.

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Speaker 5: Take a listen.

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Speaker 4: You gotta recommit too to this game, just like you

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Speaker 4: sign a new contract every time you get better as

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Speaker 4: a player. Always, I truly feel that you got to

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Speaker 4: recommit and sign that contract with yourself every so often, like,

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Speaker 4: all right, you know I'm ten twelve years in, I

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Speaker 4: got full MVPs and faux championships, Like, but.

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Speaker 5: Do I still want to do that? You know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. Artist.

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Speaker 4: Some people say I don't want to go play baseball

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Speaker 4: and they don't want to come back. Some people say

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go twenty two straight.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead. I want to go ahead.

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Speaker 1: So this is always gonna be the hardest thing to

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Speaker 1: do is to hit a baseball, right yeah, Okay, whoa, well, no,

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Speaker 1: nobody might nobody debating that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, where did that come from? And you've just been

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Speaker 5: mad at somebody else we were talking about just a

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Speaker 5: moment ago, a couple of things here.

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Speaker 1: Uh so Katie obviously had some words for Jordan or

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Speaker 1: you know it took a shot at Jordan for sure.

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Speaker 5: I mean clearly that was to Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things I want to bring down here,

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Speaker 1: I think Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of

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Speaker 5: That's the story for another day, but I.

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Speaker 1: Do just think cop out. Yes, I don't make them

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Speaker 6: No, it's not who's the greatest basketball player I ever

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Speaker 1: Okay, that that's that's what I want to hear. And

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Speaker 1: if you ask me who's the best, No, he's not

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Speaker 6: It's like it's Steph Curry thing, he's the greatest shooter

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Speaker 1: To shoot because just doesn't make any sense because you're

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Speaker 1: But if you asked for him to just take one, yeah,

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Speaker 6: It's about making he hasn't made one one shut show

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Speaker 1: One shot does not make you the greatest shooter. That's

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Speaker 6: Sounds like you didn't cover Michael because I was there

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Speaker 1: So let me go Michael Jordan. I'm not talking about

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Speaker 1: Years that he didn't do anything where he was losing

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Speaker 1: guys will be criticized for losing the people who we

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Speaker 1: Why is he losing to Kobe, Why is he losing

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair point. Also think it's a

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Speaker 1: Bill Lambiard, some of those guys think that's a fair point.

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Speaker 1: his point was. Michael Jordan himself said, I couldn't have

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Speaker 1: to play baseball. And I do believe that is a

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Speaker 1: part of what has made what made Kobe Bryant great,

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Speaker 1: what made Lebron great, That they have to have dealt

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Speaker 1: he didn't fold it and go away. I can't take

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Speaker 1: back to La on a helicopter from a trial, a

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Speaker 1: saying is it's okay to criticize Michael Jordan. He can

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Speaker 1: some things that he was not the best at, or

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying. I think it's okay to point those

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Speaker 5: Similarly, the way we'll do with Lebron. You'll know you

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Speaker 5: make an excuse.

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Speaker 6: You're like the biggest I'm dead serious, the biggest Lebron

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Speaker 6: apologist I've ever heard.

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Speaker 5: That's the first I'm gonna tell you. No, listen to me. First,

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Speaker 6: And that's why people think you're like on the on

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Speaker 6: Nobody was good in Cleveland. Lebron didn't have anybody. When

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Speaker 5: Did the Bulls win?

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Speaker 6: Scotty Pippen was this great player, but he never won

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Speaker 6: the reason Michael Jordan won. This is a nonsense. I'm

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Speaker 6: just just hear me out. This is what people try

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Speaker 5: No, he was.

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Speaker 6: He was a scoring lead of ten straight times. He

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Speaker 5: The reason that he didn't.

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Speaker 6: Win is because Skip Bayless and Rob Parker and Chris

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Speaker 6: Bussard had a morning show on the ESPN. Turn the

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Speaker 6: the reason that Lebron didn't win is because there was

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, this is what you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: I can't handle it.

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Speaker 6: The point is everybody, oh Lebron, he's the one who

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Speaker 6: You still lose more than any other NBA MVP in

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Speaker 6: not good enough. We need more players. You get Luca,

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Speaker 6: He never takes responsibility that it's him or that he.

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Speaker 5: Made the move.

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Speaker 6: You talk about Cleveland doing anything, Oh Cleveland doing didn't

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Speaker 6: Got Westbrook? Did he get Westbrook or did the Lakers

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Speaker 5: You know the best part about This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You say I'm the homer for Lebron, which is the

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Speaker 1: furthest thing from the truth. You're so obsessed with him,

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Speaker 1: you didn't even have anything to say about Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: The whole point of this was what Katie said about Jordan. No,

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Speaker 1: the whole point is is that no matter what, and

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Speaker 1: this is why you can't be honest and just Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan is the greatest. I just said it because you

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Speaker 1: started out where you have to put out that is

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Speaker 5: It doesn't excite it.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Michael Jordan's the greatest and you the best.

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Speaker 5: And that's another conversation. I can not.

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Speaker 1: Alex and Steve, and I will be the first one

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Speaker 1: I'll be the first one to tell you, Lebron, I

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Speaker 5: Take a listen.

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Speaker 9: All you have to do is look at the playoffs

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Speaker 6: Deon Sanders, Hello, is this on? So you're calling for

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Speaker 5: Shame on Dion Sanders for being a hypocrite. Shame on you.

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Speaker 6: Did you call for a cap when the coaches were

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Speaker 5: Where was the coach's cap?

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Speaker 6: Is that fair that Nick Saban was making a gazillion

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Speaker 6: How come you didn't call for this when your boys,

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Speaker 5: My dad's a former NFL player.

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Speaker 6: We got loot. I don't need money. I'm here to

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Speaker 1: Must be them, man, Okay, this is ludicris.

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Speaker 6: The only people you want to punish are the players,

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Speaker 6: you can't sell tickets. And I'm talking about the players

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Speaker 5: They all going to have the chief teams changed.

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Speaker 6: Has Ohio State all of a sudden become this team

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Speaker 6: They used to pay the kids under the table. Now

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Speaker 6: You know why, because they're not represented. There's no agent

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Speaker 6: He made the dollar sign in the batter's box. Coln

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Speaker 6: This is a fair market system this country. You know

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Speaker 6: Come on, man, I can't believe you would get on

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Speaker 6: I'll never sit down for this. I'll never accept it, Dion.

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Speaker 6: How could you terrible? Terrible? Don't be nick saban, don't

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Speaker 6: I like football. The way it used to be. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: I will not go back for that, ever, ever. Ever.

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Speaker 6: What six point five million, which is two million dollars

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Speaker 1: And that's been an issue that we've all had been

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Speaker 1: You know, they were high school players, high school players

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Speaker 1: say I don't want to happen is where some young

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Speaker 1: men rob. They miss out on the chance to grow

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Speaker 1: from adversity, meaning you go to.

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Speaker 5: The school, man, I don't like that. I'm not starting.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the other school as opposed to sometimes,

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Speaker 1: hey push through. You know this from our careers, Hey man,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you got to push through. Sometimes you got to

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Speaker 1: go through things. Sometimes isn't easy, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: a lot of young men to lose, in young women

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Speaker 1: to lose that opportunity to grow through adversity, to go

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Speaker 1: through some tough things. Just because that other school's offered

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Speaker 1: me twenty thousand dollars, they offer me forty thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: or I thought I was starting, but now I'm second

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Speaker 1: string cornerback. I don't want to wait, and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to work outwork this guy, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's my only other thing about that. I still want

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Speaker 1: kids to go through adversity, push through and become better,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want the noise lean on.

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Speaker 5: Man, this ain't working out well.

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Speaker 1: I want to go there because kid, you got something

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Speaker 1: going three four different schools in a five year college career.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't like this. I don't like that money's

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Speaker 1: better over there. That would be my only one pause

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Speaker 1: to this. But the fact that they finally are making

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Speaker 1: some money, and not to mention rup, there's only a

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Speaker 1: handful of kids. You still got the right guard somewhere

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Speaker 1: who ain't really making nothing. So let's not act like

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Speaker 1: this is a every single person getting money. And I

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Speaker 1: had it written down here too, and you hit it.

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Speaker 1: You can almost see I wrote, same team's been winning. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: the same Alabama been good. USC you know, Michigan fell

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Speaker 1: off a little bit, pop back up in order to like,

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Speaker 1: you're getting the same twenty schools. And if you put

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Speaker 1: a cap on it, fine, it'll be the same twenty

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Speaker 1: schools because most schools robbed couldn't afford the cap except

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Speaker 1: for the same twenty twenty by schools.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 3: Well, as you guys know, we're about an hour away

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Speaker 3: from tip off the big debut Cooper Flag making his

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Speaker 3: Summer League debut tonight eight pm Eastern, going head to

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Speaker 3: head on the marquee against the fifty fifth pick of

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Speaker 3: last season, Bronnie James and Los Angeles Lakers summer League

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Speaker 3: squad guys. According to vivid Seats, as of eleven am

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Speaker 3: this morning local time in Vegas, the average ticket price

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Speaker 3: was up to two hundred and twenty three dollars per ticket,

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Speaker 3: the cheapest being about eighty five bucks a court side seat.

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Speaker 3: Running you a Crisp three grand. But that's not the

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Speaker 3: story here. The story is, of course, while this is

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Speaker 3: Cooper Flag's big debut, the number one pick, he actually

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Speaker 3: he has to share top billing with Brownie James. In fact,

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Speaker 3: when ESPN put out a social media graphic promoting tonight's game,

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Speaker 3: tipping off about an hour, here's all it read, all caps,

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Speaker 3: Cooper Flag, Bronnie James, Cinema Rob.

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Speaker 5: You got a problem with that, kilp.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have a big problem with it.

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Speaker 5: And there's two things.

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Speaker 6: Because the graphic I saw, Ronnie James was on the

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Speaker 6: left and my right and Cooper Flag was on the right,

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Speaker 6: left to right. Don't you go left to right? Okay,

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Speaker 6: So here's my issue with this. Bronnie James does not

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Speaker 6: nt belong on the marquee. Once again, the minions are

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Speaker 6: trying to manipulate you, fool you into thinking what you're

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Speaker 6: going to see is something special and something that you

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Speaker 6: can't miss must see TV. And then also I'm worried

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Speaker 6: about Cooper Flag because his day but should be enough.

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Speaker 6: He's the chosen one, he's the new guy. Oh my god,

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Speaker 6: he's white chocolate times two double dip.

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Speaker 10: He's going to be Larry Bird, Larry Ostrich, Larry I

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Speaker 10: don't know, Larry Raven. He's going to be all of

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Speaker 10: that plus ten bags of chips. And the only way

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Speaker 10: we could sell the next great white player in this

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Speaker 10: country is to attach him to a second round pick,

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Speaker 10: fifty fifth pick who couldn't play well at USC who

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Speaker 10: you know, did mop up duties for the Lakers for

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Speaker 10: the most part and played in the G League and

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Speaker 10: didn't do anything to make you feel like, oh my god,

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Speaker 10: you know he's going to be something special.

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Speaker 6: You have to pay Bronnie James to get people to

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Speaker 6: watch Cooper Flag. That's where we are.

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Speaker 5: I mean, really, Bronnie.

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Speaker 6: James should not be on the same marquee as Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 5: They're not the same.

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Speaker 6: The only thing that they have going for them is

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Speaker 6: that Bronnie James is dead. Is somebody super famous, So

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Speaker 6: they're trying to attach the two. They don't go together

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Speaker 6: at all. They didn't play together. They if they are rivals,

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Speaker 6: what do they have in common. They have absolutely nothing

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Speaker 6: in common other than they're playing in some meaningless summer

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Speaker 6: league basketball game in Las Vegas and people who have

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Speaker 6: nothing to do or are afraid of the tables are

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Speaker 6: gonna go there to waste two hours.

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Speaker 5: That's what's gonna happen, bah humbud.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Rob, you gotta remember, dude, this is

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Speaker 1: the Summer League and this is where so many people

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Speaker 1: have already planned to go see what they believe could

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Speaker 1: be the next young star, whether it's Cooper Flag, whether

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Speaker 1: it is obviously Bronni. And remember, Vegas is LA Light

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the Lakers. We talk about all

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Speaker 1: the time, where we have Lamar Mitchwell be them GM.

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Speaker 1: When we have anybody else who knows anything about Vegas,

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Speaker 1: they always say, oh, my gosh, the Lakers do huge Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Lakers. This is their home away from home.

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Speaker 1: Oh the Lakers have preseason games in Vegas. This is

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Speaker 1: home for them. So so many LA people make the

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Speaker 1: trip and they go to Vegas and their Laker fans

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Speaker 1: and they want to see Bronni because they've been following

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Speaker 1: his journey since Sierra Canyon USC and now of course

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Speaker 1: with the Lakers. So I think you're under selling how

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Speaker 1: many people actually are rooting for Bronni, want to see Bronny.

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Speaker 6: And if that was last year, that last whole news,

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Speaker 6: that was last year, come on.

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Speaker 1: But this happened last summer league, But this happens in

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Speaker 1: the summer league.

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Speaker 5: Rop when you're when you're you go a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Unless you are saying rookie, if you're a Jason Tatum

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Speaker 1: or somebody, you.

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Speaker 5: Saw Bronnie playing the NBA last year, this is nothing.

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Speaker 6: The novel team was last year, did we Yeah, but

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Speaker 6: the novelty was the novelty was last year?

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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, so not this year.

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Speaker 1: But so what people are going for is hoping and

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Speaker 1: what they saw happen in the G League because he

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Speaker 1: has played so much in the G League last year.

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Speaker 6: Against seventy five percent of the league and this summer

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Speaker 6: league who won't be playing in the.

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Speaker 1: NBA exactly the same thing. No, exactly what the league.

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna see him and to see if he

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Speaker 1: can actually produce. Now that he's beat up on the

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Speaker 1: G League with guys mostly who won't make the league,

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Speaker 1: can that translate into the Summer league again against guys

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Speaker 1: who for the large part either won't make the league

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Speaker 1: or won't get meaningful minutes.

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Speaker 5: So of course they're gonna sell it. You know this

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Speaker 5: this is marketing. One oh one.

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Speaker 1: I have a kid again who's been famous since really

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Speaker 1: essentially his birth.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's followed his birth. It's a phony.

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Speaker 1: If this were Bronni versus as Bailey, it would be

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Speaker 1: Brannie A's Bailey. If this was for whatever reasons, If

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Speaker 1: win ben Yama they said we want to work him

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Speaker 1: back up, you know, to see his stamina, it would

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Speaker 1: be Prani and win ben Yama. Absolutely, this is gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Cooper Flag's level of talent. Cooper

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Speaker 1: Flag should be better.

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Speaker 5: Now. This will be his first real go at it,

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Speaker 5: so you know, he got to get his legs up

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Speaker 5: under him. But he's a he's a much better prospect.

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Speaker 5: That's not even a question.

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Speaker 1: But absolutely, for marketing persons purposes, for the NBA, for Vegas,

588
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Speaker 1: for summer League, you knew this was gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: The right was on the wall.

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Speaker 6: It's false advertising. It's false advertising. Fans should should follow

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Speaker 6: a class action suit. It's false advertising. What do you

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Speaker 6: what do you what exactly is having those two guys

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Speaker 6: they're gonna be on the court at some point?

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Speaker 5: Are they going mono imano? Is that what this is?

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Speaker 5: They may do? I do think more people.

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Speaker 1: Are optimistic and rooting for Brownie than you may think,

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Speaker 1: and meaning they just want to go see and their

598
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Speaker 1: rooting and hopefully he plays well.

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Speaker 5: And they're they're rooting for the story of him.

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Speaker 1: Uh, not that they think he's gonna be a five

601
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Speaker 1: time ten time All Star, more so that he finds

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Speaker 1: his footing, because he's he's come off as all the

603
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Speaker 1: things that like for his father, he's polarizing. People hate him,

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Speaker 1: they love him, they're tired of him. And I get

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Speaker 1: all of that, right, He's been around, he's been in

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Speaker 1: our subconscious for eons at this point. But I think

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Speaker 1: for Brianni, who comes off when they ask some questions like, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to become the best defender I can

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Speaker 1: because I know that's gonna be one of the main

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Speaker 1: keys I play off in the league, play in the league.

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Speaker 1: When they ask some questions about this, he comes off

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Speaker 1: very responsible, very likable.

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Speaker 6: There are a lot of people also who look at

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Speaker 6: him as a uh, you're the kid with a goldens

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Speaker 6: with a silver spoon in his mouth and in the

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Speaker 6: league is the only the only reason he's in the

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Speaker 6: league is because of his dad and his last name,

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Speaker 6: and it's not his talent. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 6: people on the other side. I mean, you find positives

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Speaker 6: and everything like talking to you. So I think I

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Speaker 6: got four cavities just listening to that.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying is, this is what had Do you

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Speaker 5: wear a lot?

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Speaker 1: What does it say? MLB bro? You wear shirts? They

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Speaker 1: say our show the hot couple you shirt. My point is,

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Speaker 1: come on, Rob, is this thing on? You're mister marketing you?

627
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Speaker 1: What are you doing here? How are you missing this?

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Speaker 1: It's the NBA.

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Speaker 5: If I it's not, it's not a real market. It's not.

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Speaker 6: It's not if they were one and two in the draft,

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Speaker 6: or they had a rivalry in high school or rivalry

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Speaker 6: in college.

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Speaker 5: I'm buying it. That's what I'm trying to die.

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Speaker 11: It's not a real Season's over. I gotta get you

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Speaker 11: to voneing. It's a three dollar bill. If I put

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Speaker 11: my hand on it, guess what I'd have to wash it.

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Speaker 11: That's how bad it is. I'm not buying into it.

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00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 11: And let me give you the number.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven

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Speaker 6: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. And I just

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Speaker 6: do you have a problem with Bronnie James being up

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Speaker 6: on the marquee alongside Cooper Flag like they're equals when

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Speaker 6: they then the only equal that Bronnie is to Cooper

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Speaker 6: Flag is if he had a couple of packets in

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Speaker 6: his back pocket.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's the only equal that he would be.

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Speaker 5: We'll continue that.

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Speaker 6: Conversation to go ahead and laugh, go ahead and laughed.

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Speaker 6: We'll continue with that equals.

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Speaker 11: That one was sweet hand low. Okay, very nice, very nice, Kelvin.

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Speaker 11: I didn't know you could think on your feet.

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Speaker 5: That one was right there. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if it was sweet and low. Washington