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Speaker 1: It's there's times where intuition just you know, they give

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Speaker 1: a lot like Leonardo da Vinci. Did you know that

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Speaker 1: When Ida Sabelli's phone is ringing and it's her best

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Speaker 1: and he has a very normal question to ask Ida.

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Speaker 1: while he watches this is about a new cank or

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Speaker 1: art project turned scientific discovery in history. Hey, their French

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Speaker 1: There's no matchmaking a romantic tips. It's just about pridiculous relationship.

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Speaker 1: just too much backlash. They were like, we don't want

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00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: to be involved. Peck told Vice quote, it was completely disappointing.

424
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: We found an unexplored area of research, and no one

425
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: wanted to let us finish the work because they were

426
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: afraid of how it would look on their resumes. Probably

427
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of jealous virgins too, who didn't want to

428
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: want to admit that they didn't know how sex works.

429
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: They were like, the more people can explain it, the

430
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: harder it's going to be for me to lie about

431
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: all the sex I'm having. Listen, if it's not a cylinder,

432
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in there. I've been

433
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: telling all my buddies down at the bar after work

434
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: every day. Oh yeah, I was in all kinds of

435
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: straight cylinders. The other night. It was like a pac

436
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: man grabbing my dick from the end on the inside.

437
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: Felt amazing. You guys will love it all the other

438
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: side just oh yeah in the cylinder, you know, it's

439
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: just like Pinocchio. Yeah, always thought so. Uh So Peck

440
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: decided he was not going to give up. He spent

441
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: months lobbying the Groningen Hospital management to get back to

442
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: their hospital because they had upgraded their m R I

443
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: machines so they wouldn't have to use their old one

444
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: minute wonder, you know, turn all the guys into one

445
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: minute one U. The head of the women's medicine and

446
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: the head of radiology both finally said yes on the

447
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: condition that Peck keep the project a secret and didn't

448
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: publish anything. They're like, we don't want those virgins finding out.

449
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: They'll they'll be terrible. So Peck told Vice that he

450
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: said yes, figuring that he would quote crossed the hurdle

451
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: on publication once he got to that point, I'll figure

452
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: out how to lie. But then another problem presented itself.

453
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: None of Peck's subsequent subjects could maintain their erections in

454
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: that tiny loudass tube. Jupe was really special. That project

455
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: was effectively shelved until when Bia Grow was released. Peck

456
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: got his hot little hands on the Boner pill and

457
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: resumed research, finally got his wider study. But literally they

458
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: called it a godsend, Yeah, a lot of Yeah. In all,

459
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: Vice writes, quote, eight couples and three single women had

460
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: sex in the hospital's m r I a total of

461
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: thirteen times. Which did the single women have sex with

462
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: other people? Or I actually don't know. I'm assuming that

463
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: they maybe used a tool because he really wanted to

464
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: see the female reproductive tracks, So maybe it didn't matter

465
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: if it was a fan's dick. You know, it's just

466
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: like a dildo or something. We put a little camera

467
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 1: inside this jack rabbit. We're gonna go in. Um. I

468
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: did wonder if I was like when I first read it,

469
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: I was like with each other or like, were they

470
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: just in their alone masturbating and they were like, we

471
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: just want to see what it's like, what goes on

472
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: when there's no dick in there? Maybe too, like we

473
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: want to see what an orgasm looks like without the penetration.

474
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: What happens when we leave three single women inside an

475
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: m r I machine together? Oh, do we have a

476
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: new reality show about to get started? Well, After eight

477
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: years and three failed submissions, the British Medical Journal finally

478
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: published the team's paper Magnetic resonance Imaging of male and

479
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: female genitals during coitus and Female Sexual Arousal, and it

480
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: was published on Christmas Eve of the Sexiest Night Christmas.

481
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: So what did Peck discover in all this research besides

482
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: boomerang shaped dick? Right, well, let's take a quick break

483
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: and we'll find out right after this. Welcome back to

484
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: the show, everybody, Okay, So Peck was able to prove

485
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: not only that dicks don't usually slide into the cervix um,

486
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: but that they do have to conform to the female shape.

487
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: They don't just go straight in and out like Leo thought.

488
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: But a couple of other things were uncovered as well. Firstly,

489
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: the effect of sex on a woman's bladder. Even though

490
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: all of the women had you is the bathroom before

491
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: getting busy in the m r I, every single one

492
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: of them had a full bladder by the end. It

493
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: was super super consistent. But to this day, scientists aren't

494
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: really sure why. Peck told Vice quote, we think it

495
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: might be evolutions way to force women to urinate after sex.

496
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: Perhaps our ancestors developed this function to avoid urinary tract infections.

497
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: But that's only a hypothesis. I wonder if they considered, um,

498
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: the very interesting fact that woman's bladder is full every

499
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes anyway, Um, and you constantly have to be

500
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: all the time, never stops. Not all ladies are built

501
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: like me. Okay, I'm built different again, I'm just built different.

502
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: But not only that. Mary Roach writes that quote. Before

503
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: these m R I s. Few had realized how much

504
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: of the penis lies hidden below the surface of the skin.

505
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: The root is nearly two thirds again the length of

506
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: the pendulous part. So she continues, quote, if your erection is,

507
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: say six inches long, go ahead and say it's ten.

508
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: I'll back you up. Oh thanks, Mary, damn it, Mary,

509
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: you're out here ruining tender date's all over the world. Hey,

510
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: according to Mary Roach, I'm a foot and a half log.

511
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: It goes all the way up to my brain. You

512
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: can't see the root, but I tell you it's there now.

513
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Mary Roach herself was part of a similar experiment around

514
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: two thousand eight in writing her book The Curious Coupling

515
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: of Sex and Science. Y'all scientists have got to get

516
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: sex here with your book titles. By the way, sorry,

517
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: but these are always so just like, oh wow, you

518
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: made the science of sex sounds so exciting. Honestly, this

519
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: is so funny to me because it's like the way

520
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: acade the academic world and the regular world don't quite mix. Um.

521
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: I've seen so many people be like, why are every

522
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: sex therapist or sexologist or sex researcher is always like

523
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of an old lady who nobody would want to suck. Yeah,

524
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: people said about like Dr Ruth and stuff like people

525
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: are always talking shit. I don't think that myself. I'm

526
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: just saying the stereotype. But you know, if you if

527
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: you're looking at what Peck is saying, they had to

528
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: wrap it in the most academic, dry, boring ship in

529
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: order to get it published, whereas regular people who need

530
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: to read it don't want to read that. I'm like,

531
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: where's the citizens Medical Journal Where I'm like, no, I

532
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: don't tell me the sexy part, freaky make a freaky Yes,

533
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: tell me the freaky dicky ship. Let Nicki minaj retranslate

534
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: here or Nicky Glazer. I feel like we know a

535
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: lot more agreed. A creed is so dry, but I

536
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: guess that makes sense if you had to do it. Yeah,

537
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: I bet Dr Ruth gut busy back in the day.

538
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: You know she did. That's how they know. I don't know.

539
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna do another I've uncovered so many

540
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: fun sex researcher stories, um that we're going to do

541
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: another episode later on about them, and you'll see they

542
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: they often had to use themselves as the subject. So yeah,

543
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: I got some experiments. I need to run myself actually,

544
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: so get ready. So as I was saying, Mary Roach

545
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: was part of a similar experiment in two thousand and eight,

546
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: and in writing her book The Curious Coupling of Sex

547
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: and Science, she learned about a scientist named Jing Deng

548
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: who was a senior lecturer in medical physics at University

549
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: College London. And this guy has been able to capture

550
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: for the ultrasound footage of anatomical structures like beating hearts

551
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: and an erecting penis. The point of imaging genitals is

552
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: to help diagnose and treat issues like Payrone's disease, which

553
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: can cause painful and crooked erections. But Dang wants to

554
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: go further, and he wants to capture ultrasound imaging of

555
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: real time human intercourse because, aside from the fact that

556
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: it just sounds cool to him. Uh. He thinks it

557
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: could be useful to diagnose and figure out the cause

558
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: of things like disparunia or painful intercourse with clear images

559
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: of what's going on in there. He hypothesizes, you know,

560
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: maybe we can figure out why intercourse is painful and

561
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe even fix it. Although I worry for Dr Dang

562
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: here saying, I don't know. Every time I have sex,

563
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: women say it's painful, but we just can't figure out

564
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: the cause. Oh lord, poor ductr Dang, Doctor Dang, you

565
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: ever asked them? Nope, there's no reason, there's no answer.

566
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: No one can figure it out. It's a total medical mystery.

567
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure other people. Yes, it's a serious problem. So Mary,

568
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: reading this, she reached out to Dang and asked if

569
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: she could witness his first scan as research for her

570
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: book and to her supper eyes. Dang responded and said

571
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: he'd be happy to let her watch if she could

572
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: just find him some participants for her to watch. So

573
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Mary had a conversation with her husband and they decided

574
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: to volunteer themselves. And I like Ida and Juke. They

575
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: lay spooning asked to groin, She writes, quote on the wall,

576
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: someone has hung a painting of a hillside harbor town,

577
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: as though by looking at it we could convince ourselves

578
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: that we were on the Amalfi coast, or just as

579
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: good that Dang was try and imagine me far awaywhere

580
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: not in the room with you. He gave Mary's husband

581
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: Ed a Maxim magazine to get him going. He was like,

582
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: this is very erotic, and Mary was like, I guess

583
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: the side of his wife in a freaking medical gown.

584
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: It's not a sexy thing. I don't know. And then

585
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: they joked with the doctor about like where's the candles

586
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: and the soft music and all the sexy curtains or whatever,

587
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: and he seemed like kind of comically disappointed that he

588
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: could not provide I did to them. Then she writes, quote,

589
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: he brightens, I can turn on my laptop. I have

590
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: the soundtrack to lay Miss. Oh yeah. Nothing gets me

591
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: going like the proletariat who is getting busy to the

592
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: sastrack play Miss, please write it immediately, Romance Amail Well,

593
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: Mary and Ed got themselves into position, and Dang took

594
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: the still images first, holding the ultrasound wand up to

595
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: Mary's belly. She wrote quote, we must hold still for

596
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: several seconds, like victorians posing for a de Guerat type.

597
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: Dr Dang instructs Ed to quote, please make some sort

598
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: of movement in and out. Oh, thank you for the instruction.

599
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: But at one point he has to reboot the ultrasound.

600
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: Mary writes, quote, fortunately it only takes a few seconds,

601
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: sparing Ed the necessity of also rebooting. Everybody has such

602
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: fun ways of not saying hard penis, She continues, quote,

603
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: Ed keeps up an idle, disaffected rhythm. He and Dang

604
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: chat about their children. I'm taking notes or half of

605
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: me is. I feel like a secretary and a rivaled

606
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: French comedy. And then she goes on and writes this

607
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: conversation that Ed and the doctor are having. She says, Oh,

608
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: you look so young to have a fifteen year old?

609
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: How old are you? Oh, I'm in August and the

610
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: little one? How old you could ejaculate? Now? How uncomfortable? Brutal?

611
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: Also can you ejaculate under that? I mean, like, how

612
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: do you have an orgasm? I'll tell you this I

613
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: don't want to find out. Okay, fair enough, all right?

614
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: He realizes, like Mri, I sex for our marriage is

615
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: off the table. Well, how much does it pay? Uh?

616
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: Mary goes on to say that, however useful, these ultrasound

617
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: images maybe quote, they bore no more relation to sex

618
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: than a smile held for a camera. Us to the

619
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: real thing. Ultrasound movies are a superficial rendering of the

620
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: complex and varied body mind belt that we call sex.

621
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: That's very interesting. Like you can't not it can't not

622
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: be staged, right, yeah, like this is still a performative

623
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: version of sex. Yeah. Well, and she's like, I mean again,

624
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: he's keeping up a disaffected rhythm. He's barreling here. You know,

625
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm barely here. It's a total mechanics. You have to

626
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: invent a bed that is also an m r I

627
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: that you know, you just use every night, and you

628
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: just have to normalize it, right, and there's no pausing

629
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: and no intercom. It just has to take a full

630
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: recording and then they go they scrub through it later.

631
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: That's that's the future. Then you can really get or

632
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: maybe they need to bring in some candles and lament

633
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: playing lamit. Heck, why have you thought about that? Well,

634
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: what I thought was interesting was that Ita said something

635
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: kind of simil or to Mary Roach. Now ed Mary

636
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: Roach's husband a lot like Peck van Andel's subjects had

637
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: to use viagra to get through this little experiment um

638
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: and Ida takes it as a point of pride that

639
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: she and Jupe are like the only couple to manage

640
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: without viagra. They were like the only people to do

641
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: this without needing that bone or pill. Okay Ida takes

642
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: it as a point of pride. I mean, you know

643
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: the way to go, Ida, I feel like that's more

644
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: Juke's accomplishments. But that's just me. It is funny. Ida

645
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: is Um is a co author of this paper. Jupe

646
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: is not Um. I don't know if that's just because

647
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: he's not a scientists. He was like, I'm good, I'm

648
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: all right, Um, But it's still it's the number one

649
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: thing that she cited for in other papers. So anyway,

650
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: one of Peck's team kind of theorized that Ida and

651
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: Jup were able to do this experiment without viagra because

652
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: they had a background in performance as amateur street acrobats.

653
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: So he's like, first of all, you're used to performance anxiety,

654
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: and second of all, you can like bend your bodies

655
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: and unusual case, and that makes you able to like

656
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: perform in this tiny tube and stuff. Like that you

657
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: have the stamina and the flexibility to actually through with

658
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: this sext for real. Maybe that's why Peck chose her,

659
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he called her. He's like, she's a scientist,

660
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: she's also an acrobat, and she's in a loving relationship

661
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: currently whose has all three of mr Sex. But Ida

662
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: doesn't mention her acrobatic background at all. For her, it

663
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: comes down to something a little harder for science to measure. Harder,

664
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: she told Vice. Quote for me, the experiment was also

665
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: a testimony to mine and JIP's happiness. I think that's

666
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: something the paper missed, how connected a couple must be

667
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: to perform under those kinds of conditions. So, as Mary concludes, quote,

668
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: sex is far more than the sum of its moving parts.

669
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: Interesting and I found that really cool that both those

670
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: women had a very similar reaction to it. Scientifically, this

671
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: is very interesting. But I can't say that that sex

672
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: had anything to do with sex. In my mind, when

673
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: I think of having sex, that's not It looks nothing

674
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: like that, it feels nothing like that, And I wonder

675
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: I kind of wish that they had asked Jupe or

676
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: any of the men involved how they felt, you know,

677
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: emotionally about that sex first, is the physicality of it? Yeah, yeah, definitely,

678
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: because I know it's much more a question and female

679
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: sexual arousal the emotion and the your mind set and stuff.

680
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they never asked men. It's like, just get

681
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: the blood down there and you're good to go. Uh yeah.

682
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: And in fact, I I'd even pushed back a little

683
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: bit against Ida's statement there. I don't I don't know

684
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 1: if she's really saying this, But in terms of their

685
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: ability to perform, you know, without any medical assistance, is

686
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: not a testimony to their happiness, because surely plenty of

687
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: couples are you know, very happy together but still could

688
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: use some assistance in the m R I machine while

689
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: they're trying to have sex, you know, like right or

690
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: even just in their in their own bedrooms. Like it's

691
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: not really reflective of of the quality of your relationship,

692
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: but you know, it's good for them. I think that's true.

693
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: But I do that She was like, you know, it

694
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: wasn't about anything like that. We just we're able to

695
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: put it aside. You know, we had we had enough

696
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: feeling between us that we're able to like kind of

697
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: ignore that. She's being modest they're super human freaks, is

698
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: really what it comes down to. Minutes with full minute

699
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: long pauses throughout three dudes watching you and commenting the

700
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: whole time with scientific terminology, like the root is exposed, like, no,

701
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: they're not normal, and she still came yeah, and she's

702
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: just like, well, it just comes down to the fact

703
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: that we're just you know, we have a really strong romance.

704
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, now, no, it's more than that. Oh, that's

705
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: outrageous speculation. Station. I just got a boy your thing.

706
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: She wants real to watch it, like that's the longest

707
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: they've ever lasted. Oh ship, yeah, Juvenida. Both they're like, finally,

708
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: let's not tell them, but we've been waiting for someone

709
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: to ask us to have sex in front of them.

710
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: They start volunteering for all kinds of weird sexperiments. Just

711
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: do it upside down? Yeah, what a sex look like underwater?

712
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: We'll do it. We'll do what we're acrobats. Fascinating. This

713
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: is such a cool story. I I really it was

714
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: really interesting to learn more about just the mechanics and

715
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: how little we understood about I was very surprised to

716
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: hear that people thought of vagina was shipped like a

717
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: cylinder were you I was. I don't know why you

718
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: knew that wasn't the case. I don't. I don't know

719
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: that I knew it, But I don't think that's what

720
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: I would have drawn for you. Yeah, you know, it's

721
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: interesting sometimes we see a lot of these like uh,

722
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: and they're funny videos, but people be like I went

723
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: out on the street and asked men if they know

724
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: how cervical contraction or some crazy ship works, and they

725
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: have the stupidest answers, and I'm like, I I don't

726
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: feel like I need to know that. Personally, I don't

727
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: know things about my own body and I'll make it

728
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: through my whole life just fine without knowing those extreme details. Obviously,

729
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't then decide to legislate those body parts. And

730
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: I know that's where a big part of that comes from.

731
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: But also like the idea of like mocking people for

732
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: not having a robust education in the specific details, like

733
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, why would I know the shape of

734
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: a vaginal canal? But I mean, I'm just saying as

735
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: opposed to. But I'm just saying as opposed to like,

736
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, they thought for hundreds of years, right, I mean,

737
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: what you know, that is a good point. Even gynecologists

738
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: thought it was still shaped and that you went straight

739
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: in and out. You know, they just didn't. I guess

740
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: the real story is how long it takes for anyone

741
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: to give a funk about how it works for women,

742
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of sex scientists science is

743
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: about like, oh, I guess we'll finally see what an

744
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: orgasm is for ladies, Like what is loud? I just

745
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: finally kind of. I think we just saw headlines like

746
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: a month ago where science was like, you know what,

747
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: we don't know shit about the clitter is. We really

748
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: don't know anything. We know nothing. I guess we should

749
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: start looking at it. Y'all think more than half of

750
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: the world has one. And they took like one look

751
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: in like day two, they were like, holy shit, it's

752
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: so different. We thought it was huge. Yeah, that it

753
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: didn't take you very long, not at all. You could

754
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: just look. Why didn't anyone think to look at this

755
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: before be interested? I don't know, um, but yeah, that

756
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: that sort of was kind of the interesting thing to

757
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: me is that literally, you know, we had a drawing

758
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: from five hundred years ago that everyone was like, yeah, sure,

759
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: why why look into it. Why I check this guy's work.

760
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: He's Leonardo da Vinci. You know why not? It was

761
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: five dred years ago. We've learned a lot of things

762
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: since then. Everything's fine. Women are clearly fine. There's no

763
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: reason to look any further, fully satisfied, all the women

764
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: of the world having no medical issues related to this

765
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: lack of knowledge. Fascinating. Um, But yeah, I think that's

766
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: really cool that there are people brave enough to do that.

767
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: I can have sex and m R Machine with anybody watching.

768
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: Maybe there's no way. So I'm very glad that I don't.

769
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 1: I didn't you found found their four yearism deep within

770
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: or whatever one to your point about mocking people, I

771
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: was thinking about this the other day because the internet

772
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: is so mean. As you know, if someone doesn't know

773
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: something or they say something kind of ill advised, people

774
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: will share it and be like, look that this dumbass,

775
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, And sometimes you find out that the person

776
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: that is talking is maybe really young or something like

777
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: they just don't know. You feel like they're like a

778
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: sixty seven year old man saying some ship. And I

779
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: kind of thought to myself, like, I do wish that

780
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: we would sort of decide that learning is a fun thing,

781
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: like in teaching people is fun. And if someone is

782
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: like has a question or is confused about something, instead

783
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: of being like, well, this fucking moron, Like instead of

784
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: being like, oh, I have a chance to tell you something,

785
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: I know this, I actually know this, and I can

786
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: tell you the answer. You know, it's way more I

787
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: don't know, pleasant experience for everyone involved. Um And I

788
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: do it too. So I was kind of telling myself.

789
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: I was like trying to remember that learning is fun.

790
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: Teaching can be fact fact. Like if you were to

791
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: go out on the street and ask women what they

792
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: thought of cervix looked like, or to point one out,

793
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: I bet a lot of women couldn't do it either.

794
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we also don't get a lot

795
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,479
Speaker 1: of information about our reproductive system. Um. And in doing

796
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: this research, they were saying the cylinder thing really mad

797
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: because on like tampon boxes, they still show tampon go

798
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: straight in and out. There's it's a cylinder like it's

799
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: just goes straight in. There's no question about how it works.

800
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: So it is like there there are probably plenty of

801
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: women and girls who grow up thinking, yeah, it's just

802
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: I guess it's a cylinder and the dick goes straight

803
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: in and out. I hadn't thought about it, really, but

804
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: if I thought about it, I guess sure, why not.

805
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: In fact, it's like a corkscrew. Whoa Jeremy Barony, Jeremy

806
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: a woman's reproductive tract. It's like a Jeremy Barrey. Yeah, yeah,

807
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: the time nice, we've all seen it. Well, I hope

808
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: you'll learned something about vaginas today. Right about penises too, true,

809
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: true cones out the female body does make them change shape. Yeah,

810
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: and the male body is uh, everyone's penis is longer

811
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,920
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812
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Speaker 1: Schools are closed for the day national holiday, international holiday,

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Speaker 1: in the right period of time, if you had to

816
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: learn this, that was exactly what happened. Oh, we can

817
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: have like the Japanese penis festival. We have a big

818
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: penis festival in Japan. Here, we could have that, but

819
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: it's like, look, it's actually double the size that you

820
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: thought about. They're like, and yeah, yeah, something about women too. Anyway,

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824
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