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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for

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Speaker 1: Thursday July. Obviously, need to thank you guys for all

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Speaker 1: the kind words about being on The Herd yesterday. A

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. I will be chopping it up again

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Speaker 1: today and then if you missed yesterday's podcast, Chris Brussard

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Speaker 1: and I will be hosting The Herd on Friday. Should

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Speaker 1: be fun. Brussard and I go way back. Love working

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Speaker 1: that I work with Broussard at Fox doing videos and

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Speaker 1: hosting shows and radio and all that. They always have

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Speaker 1: strong opinions on Brussard because he made his name at

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Speaker 1: ESPN being there forever everybody has thoughts on Bruce Hard

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Speaker 1: and um, all I'll say is he ultimately is a

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Speaker 1: really nice guy and we're good friends, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to host with him Friday. But first I gotta tell

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Speaker 1: fan in Cleveland, talking about my Jimmy g theory. He

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Speaker 1: likes it, doesn't love it, talk a little Calves, a

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Speaker 1: little Browns, and more importantly, I think you're really gonna

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Speaker 1: like the little Brother Big Brother Bengals Brown's discussion. Even

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Speaker 1: talking about. There is one of those out here in

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Speaker 1: l A with quote unquote so Cal versus Nora Cal.

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Speaker 1: is interesting to hear the rivalry so to speak, between

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Speaker 1: we get to Garrett, I just gotta cover one quick item.

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Speaker 1: So it's funny. NBA usually works this way in July,

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's some stuff second week as you bleed into

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Speaker 1: NBA Summer League, and then it kind of slows down.

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Speaker 1: It's done, and the NBA's on the shelf for a

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Speaker 1: couple of months and everybody goes to the NFL. That's

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Speaker 1: not going to totally be the case this month for

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Speaker 1: three reasons. Number One, DeAndre Ayton seems like he'll be

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Speaker 1: the first Dominoto fall. Everybody was thinking, oh eight, no,

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Speaker 1: wait for Durant deal to happen. Well, that Durant deal

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Speaker 1: is not on the front burner anywhere. Aton and Indiana

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Speaker 1: have been connected for a while. Maybe they envisioned him

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Speaker 1: in the Roy Hibbert role. Yeah he's better than Roy Hibbert,

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Speaker 1: I know, but remember Paul George, Roy Hibbert, David West.

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Speaker 1: now the Haliburton show, and he'll join forces with Eton

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Speaker 1: who is apparently on the market again. Now we touched

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Speaker 1: Nets are interested in Donovan Mitchell. So for the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks it's been oh yeah, Kevin Durant, we want

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Speaker 1: We all need to work together for this massive blockbuster

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Speaker 1: And then you look at the guard depth in the

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Speaker 1: There's some decent stuff that we'll get to probably tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: but first let's get to our guest, Garrett Bushe, the

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Speaker 1: fan in Cleveland. Jason likes to think he knows everything

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Speaker 1: but for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 1: guy he knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into

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Speaker 1: on this podcast. Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Cavaliers, Ohio State Buckeyes,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Garrett Bush three the Fan, How are you man?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good man. Thanks for having me on today,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for taking the time. We just love Cleveland. You

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Speaker 1: guys give so much good content from a football and

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Speaker 1: it's the Deshaun Watson situation, not necessarily him, but the

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Speaker 1: And I'm not a believer in Jacoby Bercent. Maybe you are, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: but I think if they trade for Jimmy Garoppolo, given

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Speaker 1: I don't care nothing about the money is Jimmy has

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Speaker 1: and always laughing, joke and talk to people. Say, you know,

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Speaker 1: more about the captain we do because we always here.

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Speaker 1: We have to plan for the future. G Plus, you

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Speaker 1: can't just you know, you're you're mortgaging the future all

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Speaker 1: these contracts. I'm like, come on this. You know Deepodester

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Speaker 1: It was Baker Mayfield, he was a problem. He's gone.

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Speaker 1: hedge my bet a little bit in terms of how

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Speaker 1: many games Shan Watson gets. So if it's not the

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Speaker 1: you made a good point, Like if they are terrible

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Speaker 1: hasn't done anything outside of Lebron and that includes the

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Speaker 1: lean Kyrie Irving years. But I am curious where what's

425
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: the vibe around the Calves are right now? Are they

426
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: are people legitimately thinking, all right, this team can be

427
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 1: a playoff team for five years in the East. And

428
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they can't think they're gonna win anything

429
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: out winning the East out with Janice and companies still around,

430
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 1: they could be a playoff team with much matters. Yeah,

431
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: they were almost a playoff team last year. I think

432
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: they just the injuries killed him. Ricky Rubio was playing

433
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 1: his best basketball of his life. I mean he was

434
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: really the catalyst to get to get him rolling in

435
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: to get uh the Calves, I think from being that

436
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: all right, well they may be competitive every other other game,

437
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: or we're looking to see the young guys performed too.

438
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: They were playing at a level in the beginning of

439
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 1: the season where you look at the Calves they're like

440
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: the third place and there are a couple of games

441
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: outside of first and you're like, wow, could this team

442
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: actually start to move up? And if this team gonna

443
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: be a top four team in the East. And then

444
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 1: you kind of you saw what basketball does, right, Like

445
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: we realized that, you know when you're playing defense really

446
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: hard and nobody else is playing defense really hard. And

447
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: then they start trying. It's a little bit more second

448
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: half of the season, Boston started trying, Philadelphia started trying,

449
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: and you started to see the levels between the superstars.

450
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: You started seeing the difference between the Jetty Osmond's and

451
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: some of the role players, and Isaaca Corals and and

452
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: Tatum and Brown. So I think they showed that if

453
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 1: they play really hard. I think the development of Darius Garland, Um,

454
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: he's he's just I just I Marvel and I have

455
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: one of the worst takes ever. I called him like

456
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: a JV point guard in Summer League. Yeah, and um,

457
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: he came out Colin Seston goes down and he turns

458
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Speaker 1: into uh. And I had to argue, us said, man,

459
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: this guy got He's not as spectacular as Kyrie Irving.

460
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: And we've seen Kyrie had the biggest shot in in

461
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 1: the game. But as far as uh, temperament, I want

462
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: to say character. I don't think Kyrie's out there shooting

463
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: anybody or something. But as far as temperament leadership, he

464
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: has those things checked. Uh. You can shoot a high

465
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: percentage from the free throw line. He could hit the three.

466
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: He could dribble, he could pick and roll, you could

467
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: do all those things. Um my guess. My guess is

468
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: is he's too slighter frame. Is that going to work

469
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: if you're going to pair a very small backcourt in

470
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: Colin Sexton in another backcourt where you've got two guys

471
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: that are under six ft um or somewhere in the

472
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: six ft three to six ft range, I don't think

473
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: it's it's feasible. Um. But then again, in Detroit Pistons,

474
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean they kind of did it with du Mars

475
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Thomas, but I mean they had a lot

476
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: of other things and that was a different era, right, Um,

477
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Speaker 1: So go ahead. My my take on Garland would be

478
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: and this is people know on this podcast that I

479
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: am not a Kyrie Irving guy. I've kind of been

480
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: bashing him for about a year now. But Garland is

481
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: everything I thought Kyrie Irving would be because remember Kyrie

482
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. You know this Garrett, he didn't do anything

483
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: until Lebron got there, like they were one games. Yeah,

484
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Garland is the engine there. I mean, Kevin Love is

485
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: what coming off the bench, and Jared Allen's okay, and

486
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: Evan Mowgli was it was a great rookie, but this

487
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: was I thought, this is mostly driven by Garland, right,

488
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was. It was. It was his show.

489
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: And you got a guy like Colin Sexton. He's got

490
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: twenty four, he's averaged twenty four and change in this league.

491
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: And he goes down and you're thinking the Calves is

492
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: gonna be in trouble here, and all of a sudden,

493
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: you start to see the floor open up. You start

494
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: to see the biggest get involved his chemistry with the

495
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: with the lobs to Jared Allen, and you need a

496
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Speaker 1: point if Jared Allen. Jared Allen is an All Star

497
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: because of Daris Garland, right, Uh, you know, because he's

498
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: not gonna get you anything. Um, you're not gonna is.

499
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: So gerald Jared Allen and tell him to go go

500
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: to work, big fella. He's gonna he's gonna rim run,

501
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna catch the lob, he's gonna get on the boards,

502
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna blockshot some of the dirty stuff. Right, And

503
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: so he's an All Star because of what Darius Garland

504
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: can do. Now, my question is and getting the team better.

505
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: The Calves are very scared of this option of saying,

506
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: if we play Colin Sexton and we know he's valuable,

507
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: is he going to be willing to come off the bench?

508
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: And is Colin Sexton going to at this point because

509
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: he wants his money and he's he's, he's, uh, he's.

510
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: Actually they have the same agent, Rich Paul is an agent,

511
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: so it's like he wants his bag of money. Is

512
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: the Colin Sexton that we saw going to make the

513
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: Darius Garland we saw last year regress? And I think

514
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: that's what they're thinking of. They don't want to have

515
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: Darius Garland regress and they need Colin Sexton to play

516
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: a lesser role. They don't know if he's willing to

517
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Speaker 1: do it. What's funny you just said that Garland really

518
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: made Jared Allen an All Star, And I mean that's

519
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: a smart thing to say, because instantly I wanted to

520
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: look back and see, oh, well, Kyrie Irving. The narrative

521
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: was he didn't have a supporting cast before Lebron came back, Right,

522
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at Kyrie Irving played with a guy

523
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: like Colin Sexton named Dion Waiters. People forget he was

524
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: what top five top five pick out of Syracuse four. Listen,

525
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: I know we could, we could scoff at Deon Waiters

526
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: and all he was. It went crazy in Miami and

527
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: was a Trumps or whatever it was. But for a minute,

528
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: Deon Winders was like a big time talent, top five pick.

529
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: And they also had side Joe Bob Anderson Verrejo. Uh,

530
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson was on that team. Um, Tyler Zeller maybe

531
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: not as good. And then the following year, the one

532
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: right before Lebron came back. Uh, they had the well

533
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: dang for a minute, so they they weren't. It wasn't

534
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: totally baron Jared Jack's solid guard. Um. But and again, Garrett,

535
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to come off as a hater, but

536
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: does Kyrie Irving make his teammates better? Did he do

537
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: it in Boston, Cleveland, Brooklyn? Has he done that? And

538
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: you're you're starting to see it. I think he knows

539
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: that now. I didn't you hear his comments, but I'm

540
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: likely he's like, well he goes he comes out on

541
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: his podcast, and I thought, see, it's it's only a

542
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: matter of time, you know, when you play when you're

543
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: in your twenties, when you're your early twenties, you're fighting

544
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: for max contracts, Cloud and wanting to be the man.

545
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: Right after you go through your career and you start

546
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: to realize, Okay, I'm getting a little older, and especially

547
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: if you've had success in your earlier parts of your years,

548
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: you start to believe that, yo, this successful thing. I

549
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: don't see what Charles Oakley was saying. I don't see

550
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: what what was wrong with Patrick Ewing and Charles Barkley.

551
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: Why couldn't they be couldn't they win? And then they

552
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: get to the end of their careers and then their

553
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: body starts to fail him, and anytime the man starts

554
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: to see his mortality where he's like, man, I used

555
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: to be able to get out of bed and go

556
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: play pick up basketball, do whatever I want. Now just

557
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: to get out of bed, I gotta put ice on.

558
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: I've had four or five surgeries. And now you start

559
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: to think of your legacy and what what it means,

560
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: and then you start to rethink some of the things

561
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: you did when you're younger. And Kyrie is like, man,

562
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: the best the best person I ever played with was Lebron.

563
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: I didn't get it at the time, but I kind

564
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: of see he was kind of like yeah, Like, I mean,

565
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: Kyrie led the team in shots and he left. What

566
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: do you remember when he said? This was it before

567
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Durant asked the trade. This was in a podcast. I

568
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: think it was before Durant asked for the trade. He

569
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: was on the podcast and he talked about him his

570
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: split in Cleveland. He was a little immature, um and

571
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: if he had to go over and do it again,

572
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: he would have just talked to Lebron. And now I

573
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: thought it was ironic. Usually Kyrie Irving and Lebron they're

574
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: very uh. You could tell when they're they're ready to bounce.

575
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: They start getting cryptic, they start giving people shout outs,

576
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: like when when Lebron was like, hey, you know, actually,

577
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: to be truthful, Cleveland they not only got two All Stars,

578
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: they got three All Stars. And we was like when

579
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: you talk about he was just like, yeah, I'm cuting

580
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: myself in that, Like come on, Lebron, you can't do that.

581
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: Stop that. But no, I think Kyrie, Kyrie is to

582
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: me is one of the most talented dudes. Like as

583
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: far as basketball pure basketball. If you say I got

584
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: playing a pickup game and I'm playing a pickup game

585
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: for my life, Kyrie Irving is my point guard because

586
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: he just plays like he just he had He does

587
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: have that Kobe thing, like he wants to assassinate you,

588
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: like he like, I'll take that guy at point guard.

589
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: But if it's if it's, I'm gonna give him fifty

590
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: million dollars and tell him to come out here and

591
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: play hard and be a good team. Mayna I know that, Yeah,

592
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: it's it's weird. Um, the talent, you know, is there,

593
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: But I just wonder the self awareness never has. Why

594
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden would he come out on a

595
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: podcast and say, oh, yeah, Lebron is the best player

596
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: I've ever played with. When a you're playing with Kevin Durant,

597
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: who thinks he's as good as Lebron, and you know

598
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: as a score he might be, But like, is he

599
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: just saying that because none of his actions have ever

600
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: led to anything close to that. He's always been and

601
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: I talked to and he's an enigma right even in

602
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: Cleveland covering him and talking about and watching all the

603
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: games he played when he was here. Um. I asked

604
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: Greg Shorts, who was a it was the beat reporter

605
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: for the Bleacher Report here in the area, and I

606
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: asked him, I said, man, look, man, why why why

607
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: does it seem like Kevin durant or Kyrie Irving just

608
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: like that nothing can be right even when everything is right,

609
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: nothing is right, Like they have to have and force

610
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: something to be bad for them to like, you know,

611
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: have a problem. And he said, I'm gonna be honest

612
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: with you, man, they are. And I've talked to executives

613
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: and they said, you know, they're the most miserable people

614
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: in the game. Like they're just miserable in terms of

615
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: their demeanor. Like he said, who has I mean, Kevin

616
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: durant Is is known for his burner accounts, and it's

617
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: like I would just think, like you you you do

618
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: talk shows, you on TV, you do radio. I mean,

619
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: do you read all of your d m s? Do

620
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: you read all of your tweets? You don't. You don't

621
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: be looking for sub tweets I'll used being passive aggressive, No,

622
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: you don't do that. So for me, Kyrie Irving, I

623
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: think the reason he says that and says those things,

624
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: it is because at the end of the day, I

625
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: just really believe that he feels like he's playing three

626
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: dimensional chess with people, Like he feels like he's manipulating

627
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: the sins situation, and he's I'm I'm gonna make it

628
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: look like this and I'm gonna get Lebron to bring me,

629
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: when in reality, Lebron basically has no choice. He has

630
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: rest book and it looks like that. But you know this, carrot,

631
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: when you're wasting all your time and your energy thinking

632
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: of stuff like that and plotting and trying to move

633
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: chess pieces and outthink the next guy is your focus

634
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: on basketball and winning, because let's be real, he hasn't

635
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: been to the conference finals since he was with Lebron. Like,

636
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: I think you're right, he is thinking like, oh, I'm

637
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: next level. I'm on a different plane than everybody you know,

638
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: Like I've got all this this I don't know, Manna,

639
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm out on the guy. Fox Sports Radio

640
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch

641
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Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com

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Speaker 1: and within the I Heart Radio app search f s

643
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: R to listen live. I look at it as as

644
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: a big thing in a grander scheme of things. Don't

645
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I'm all for player empowerment. I love

646
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: and player inmpartament. Right. If you if you say who

647
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: are you for the owners? Are players n cent of time?

648
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm raising my hands players definitely. But when you look

649
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: at this situation in with the nets, man like, think

650
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: about how the ownership has to think like, we ravaged

651
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: our team that had a nice solid Corecauys like Jared

652
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: Island came here, Cares laverds here. Now we had a

653
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: specier then, we we had a great coach, we had assets,

654
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: we had some picks we could have did things with,

655
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: and we blew it all up to get hard and

656
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: direct and Kyrie and don't forget they gave up I

657
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: think forty million dollars for DeAndre. Jordan's like a total

658
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: stiff because we wanted and then you turned around and

659
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: then he just goes and he goes a wall during

660
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: COVID he gets all this stuff. Let me if you

661
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. I think the owners during

662
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: the next collective bargaining or whenever it's up, I don't

663
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: know what the TV deal looks like. I think that

664
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: there's gonna be something to be reckoned with because I

665
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: think they're they're gonna be like, hey, look man, y'all

666
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: gotta give us some sort of reprieve here. You guys

667
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: are not playing in all the games you got. You

668
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: guys are getting arrest and you're not playing in opposite cities.

669
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: How's this? How does how is that going to play out?

670
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: My counter would be what owners are we talking about?

671
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: Because you know, Garrett, that there's some owners who have

672
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: not spent in the luxury tax They refuse to go

673
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: into the Phoenix Suns cheap ass owner, a New Orleans

674
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: Pelicans cheap as hell. But if you look up at

675
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: the Warriors, they just won the title with the most

676
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: expensive roster, biggest luxury tax pay payment ever. And guess

677
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: who else is spending a lot. Steve Balmer with the

678
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: Clippers doesn't care. I'm writing checks. And if those guys

679
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: want to pipe up and say, hey, guys show up, fine,

680
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: But these other owners who aren't spending, I can't rock

681
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: with them, Garrett. I I just can't, you know, And

682
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't. And I've never quite understood, like maybe somebody

683
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: can explain to me. Fans just just climb all over

684
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: the wall to just go to the bat for you

685
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: have the backs of owners, And I'm like, man, dude,

686
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: is not your money, Like he's not worth that, He

687
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: is not worth that contract, and I'm like, dude, if

688
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: he didn't spend it on him, he'd have to spend

689
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: it on someone else. Sometimes it's not about whether or not,

690
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: like the guy is worth the money, it's the predicament

691
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: that you're in. People here. When we were in the

692
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: Championship run eighty five million for Tristan Thompson, I'm like,

693
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: guys were already over the luxury text. If we cut

694
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson, we still couldn't sign anybody. They don't understand that.

695
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: And also Lebron wanted Tristan Thompson. Yes, you know whatever

696
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: Lebron wants, but no, you guy's a good point. Like

697
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: Bradley Bill, it's weird man, and Garrett, you open a

698
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: can here. Now we're gonna go into like listen, Bradley

699
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: Bill is getting what do you get? Two or fifty million?

700
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: He's been all NBA I think once, maybe three or

701
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: four All Star Games. It's like, well, Bradley Bial is

702
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: not worth that. We'll time out, wait a second, like

703
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: what do you guys want? Do you want to unload

704
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: everybody and rebuild or do you want to pay Bradley

705
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: Bill and applaud him for sticking around because when Kevin

706
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: Durant left, Okay, see he said no, no, you can't leave.

707
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: How could he do that? He's abandoned. Well wait wait

708
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: to say wait to say so bradle Bill staying and

709
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: he's getting ripped for taking the money, and now you're

710
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: ripping Duran for leaving. Well, no, Durant just went to

711
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: the Warriors that that's the problem. They won seventy three games. Well,

712
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: they didn't win the championship. So now you're telling the

713
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: guy you can stare, you can go and if you

714
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: want to leave, you can go to certain teams. Like

715
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: that's why these fans I'm just kind of out on

716
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Not the guys would listen to

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00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: this point, Well a lot of them. Um, there is

718
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: I will say there there is a there's a psychological

719
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: thing with what a lot of fans. And I was

720
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: talking about this other day, Um that David and Joe

721
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: who got a contract that people want crazy, he's getting

722
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: paid like a top ten guy. And I said, I

723
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: think sometimes what people don't don't realize is there's such

724
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: a love hate, especially with men, there's a love hate relationship.

725
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: And you you have admiration for somebody that you know,

726
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: it's very special and rare, and they have an ability

727
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: that that you can't possess, Like it's there and you

728
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: admire it. But at the same time, when you admire

729
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: and you look at it and they do things that

730
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: you may not agree with, there's always this thing in

731
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: the bottom of your stomach that says, this guy is

732
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: gonna get more money than I'm ever gonna see. He's

733
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna mess around with the hottest girls I'd never have

734
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: a chance opportunity to even look at. And then it

735
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: just it's this, this, cognitive this and this in your stomach,

736
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: Like but I really like the fact that he gets

737
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: us sixty wins a year, but I don't like what

738
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: he's said off the record over here, or he does this,

739
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: or he does eas different things. So I think, um,

740
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: I think fans always have this like fetish with keeping

741
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: their players. They're like little army men that you used

742
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: to dump in the floor and play with your mom

743
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: and just keep him in the box. You guys playing

744
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: and don't do nothing. It's funny. I went to a

745
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: buddy of mine has u c l A basketball season tickets,

746
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: and we go to a game U c l A

747
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: Arizona State. I don't know, like three or four years

748
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: ago and Arizona State had this kid who was a

749
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: dog on defense, lu Dort, and I was like, man,

750
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: this guy's good. He's like I've never heard him. Was like,

751
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a pro. I don't know if he's

752
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: gonna be any good, but he's gonna be to make

753
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: the pros. You know, built he can, he's a wing.

754
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: He's switchable. Lou Dort signed for eighties seven million dollars

755
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you saw the reaction, Garrett,

756
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: but it was like, are you kidding me? The funder

757
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: gave him like what fifteen million a year or whatever

758
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: the numbers, and I'm like, yeah, they don't pay anybody.

759
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: They gave him. What aren't you guys happy for lu Dort?

760
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: He just got generational wealth after being like a two

761
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: or three star recruit. Like I'm happy for the guy.

762
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 1: Like all these guys who want to tear these dudes

763
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: down and go into their pockets, I'm like, I'm happy

764
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: for him. Generational wealth. His kids are set up, and

765
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: his kids kids are set up. If he plays his

766
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: car drive, if you want to see people squirm, just

767
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: just pull up the top ten earners from sports or

768
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: you want to show you play sports. No, I don't.

769
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: It's so weird. But I watched him right, like, yeah,

770
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: so I'm one of them. Yeah, I'm one of them.

771
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: People like so I'm too busy to have a video game.

772
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: I just got married and so like that was kind

773
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: of out. So I don't. I don't have an Xbox

774
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: or I don't do but it's kind of older. I

775
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: don't play Madden two Kake like I used to. Yeah,

776
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: but one of the things that I love watching is

777
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: sports and gaming. I told my mom at one point

778
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: in time, people one day the games will be great

779
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: and they will get paid to play video games. Now

780
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: people do get paid and goodly sum of money to

781
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: play video games live and streaming on Twitter or something.

782
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: But the great thing about it is they have announcers.

783
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: There's like broadcasters that broadcast everybody's played by play on

784
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: Street Fighter. I'm like, this is great, this is America.

785
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: This is the American dream. I life. You're rich because

786
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: you do nice TikTok videos and you're like eleven awesome.

787
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: No one says anything about that. I definitely am happy

788
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: for these guys, and it's like one of those situations

789
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: where like, it's not for me. I don't want my

790
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: kids watching people play Madden, you know, or or Fortnite

791
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But like, if you want to

792
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: be a professional video game player and go for it, yes,

793
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: you gotta gotta do well in school though to play

794
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: video games. But I don't know, man, I it's tough

795
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: for me to hate on people making money. You know what,

796
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: if I'm hating on them, why don't I just do

797
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: better so I make my own? You know? Yeah? Like

798
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: or or I think people. You know, we're getting really philosophical.

799
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: We got so far in the rabbit hole in this

800
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: but or do something you like doing. I used to

801
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: it too, I would say about six months ago, I

802
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: was still working in middle level corporate America, and I

803
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: hated my life, like it was doing reports and stuff. Yeah,

804
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: we were like government agencies. So I used to work

805
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: in this place with that UM used to do uh

806
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: social security applications, right, But we used to have an

807
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: algorithm that we would gauge and work with insurance companies

808
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: to see which a number of people giving their diagnosis,

809
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: giving their age and their medications would be a candidate

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00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: to get Social Security. So we would get we had

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00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: clinical nurses, they were giving you know, all these Uh

812
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: so we take all this stuff and the goal is

813
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: to get these people to flip to Social Security. So

814
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: obviously there's regulations with that and there's regular so we're

815
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff, and I just remember they're sitting

816
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: there like like sitting here one day and being like

817
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: this ain't this, I can't it is no more and

818
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: pays the bills, but I take a pay cut, just

819
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: stick it up out of here. And you know, fortunately

820
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: enough I had got a blessing and I said, okay,

821
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: well here we go. We're off and running. But I

822
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are a little bit miserable

823
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: and they're here. But that's all. Congrats me, and that's great.

824
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: Like listen, you're right. If you if you if you

825
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: love what you do, you're not really working. I mean

826
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: think about it, like, you know, I do this. I

827
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: take this podcast five days a week, and it's like, yeah,

828
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: I can talk all about Lebron lebron Kyrie Jordans all

829
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: this stuff. I do that every day. Like it's like

830
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: I gotta be interesting. I gotta takes I gotta get aggressive.

831
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: I gotta have Richard Sherman blocking me on social media.

832
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: I gotta have all these clowns and all these whatever

833
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: websites that make up the fake quotes what I forget

834
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: the name of it, but they tricked ESPN And then

835
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: I was like, these guys are losers. They're sitting at home.

836
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: How do I craft a fake quote so I could

837
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: get people to talk about it? Like, I'm like, who

838
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: are these losers? And now they all found the tweet

839
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: and it's doing massive numbers and I'm my my timeline

840
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: is just a mess. I don't got it, and it's

841
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: just like, you know, it happens whatever. Anyways, we've gone off.

842
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: You're right, we went down. Yeah, before we keep going.

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Speaker 1: One more last thing. Who's the most famous person to

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Speaker 1: have has you blocked? Richard Sermon? Reggie Miller, Richard. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why Reggie Miller did it. Oh, Kendra Perkins,

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Speaker 1: but he's not that famous. Yeah. I called him out

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Speaker 1: on something we used to talk, and then I called

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Speaker 1: about on some stuff. I think Rob Parker, who also

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Speaker 1: hosts the show at Fox Sports Radio. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he blocked me or just unfollowed me. He got outside.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you can't bash the hell out of

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Speaker 1: Brady and Rogers and Curry, and when they're still winning,

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Speaker 1: be like, yo, you were a hundred thousand percent wrong,

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Speaker 1: you know, And and anyways, Um, yeah, that's some athletes.

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Speaker 1: Tell by what you got somebody. Um, I'm surprised. I see,

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Speaker 1: I'm still I'm I'm I'm I'm a mid level guy

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Speaker 1: like I get offered a mid level exception. I'm not

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Speaker 1: like a prime time dude like Baker. Maybe I was

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Speaker 1: never a Baker film, but he never really blocked me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the only one in Cleveland who hasn't blocked Um.

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Speaker 1: You're doing something right. Oh, I got someone that could

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Speaker 1: top Baker. Odell Becka blocked me Um several years ago.

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Speaker 1: It was when he was with the Giants. I was like,

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Speaker 1: they gotta trade him, they gotta trade him. Everybody's like,

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Speaker 1: no way, you can't. You gotta trade Odell Um. But

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Speaker 1: it's weird. Uh. You know, I guess some of these

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Speaker 1: guys that maybe I get too aggressive. Kyrie is not

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Speaker 1: blocked me. I'm not trying to actively get blocked, but

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Speaker 1: you know what happens, He's with it. It's part of

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Speaker 1: your business, right Yeah? Man? All right? Garrett Bush three

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Speaker 1: the Fan. Hey Man, congrats on all your success, keep

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Speaker 1: up the good work and good luck with the Browns

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Speaker 1: this year. Hey Man, I appreciate you. Man take care

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Speaker 1: of you so all right. Thanks