1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Seth Woolcock here and welcome into our Day two coverage 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty six NFL Draft going down in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: And if Day one was any indication expect the unexpected, 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: we already saw the last Angeles Rams stunned the world 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: and become the topic of conversation by selecting Alabama Crimson 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Tide triggerman Ty Simpson at thirteen overall. We also earlier 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: in the night saw Jeremiah Love find a new home 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: in Arizona, much the chagrin of Tyler Als year managers everywhere. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Next up, we're diving into rounds two and three to 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: see what kind of depth this class. 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: Has really got under the hood. 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: Last night, our team of experts and I broke down 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: the fallout of every Fantasy relevant pick live on the 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros YouTube channel at YouTube dot com slash Fantasy Pros. 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: Keep it locked in here to see what we had 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: to say. 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: I think you also have nine ers to take a 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver in general, right, Yes, we. 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: Did talk about that. We did talk about that. I 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: think we got that. 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: A like plus four hundred or plus three hundred. We 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 4: gave it out on the show, So I mean if 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 4: they take a wide receiver here, I mean Yachtzi bro Yatzi. 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: Okay, and we have the pick in and voys, it 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: is a shock. 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it is all miss wide receiver is 27 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: John Stribling? 28 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: What, Deebra, this is. 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: A ripling to you a couple of weeks ago when 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: we were doing I think maybe a sleeper episode because 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: he had a really nice combine. This is a guy Boggs, 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: you know how good he was kind of late in 33 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: the season for Trendad Chambliss down there he Golden and Company. 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: So so, Deebra, I'll hand it over to you first. 35 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Is this the worst pick you've seen in the draft? 36 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: That your you're jaws a little bit on the floor. 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 2: What is the sentiment here? 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: I like stribbling, But dude, he's got some death Like 39 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking about rack and a linear player 40 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: like it's run after the catch, like they have to 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 4: be hoping they're gonna put somebody into a debosque type 42 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: of role because he's not a player that I think 43 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 4: you're asking to run the full route tree and even 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: like the analytics, he's eighty seventh and forty sixth then 45 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 4: yards per route run over the last two years. 46 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: Like, oh, man, he's. 47 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 4: Okay, but he's sure as hell is not worth going 48 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: in the second round of the NFL draft, Like this 49 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 4: is when we talk about Seth, Like we talked about this, Bogman, 50 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: Like we've discussed this years up to years the NFL 51 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: double counting speed. This is what we're talking about running 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: a four to three four Like this is where this is. 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 4: This is an idiotic pick, Like I this is dude, 54 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: why draft him at the top of the freaking second round? 55 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 4: Like you're basically telling us you had a first round 56 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: grade on him, You're taking him at the first pick 57 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 4: of the second round. There's no way in hell I 58 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: would have had a first round pick like grade on Stribbling, 59 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: Like I had him as like a round three slash 60 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 4: four guy, Bogman, tell me I'm crazy here, man. 61 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: No you're not. This is uh this is a very 62 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: surprising pick. 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 5: Now, Stribbling had a lot, he had a lot of 64 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 5: helium going into uh this class. But I think on 65 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 5: mock draft database he was in the nineties in terms 66 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 5: of like where he was going to go, and among 67 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 5: wide receivers, he was like fifteen or sixteen, very low. 68 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 5: So I could tell you he was wide receiver seventeen 69 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 5: on that he's behind Lance Bell, Fields, Rot Williams, Hurst, 70 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 5: Branch Brazzle, Bernard Bell, and Boston. 71 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 6: Where did you have him ranked. 72 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 4: Agman, because I have him at wide receiver twenty three 73 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: in my rookie rankings. Yeah, twenty three, and he goes 74 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: over Denzel Boston. 75 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 5: That is it is incredibly surprising. I can up where 76 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 5: I am. 77 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: Actually at twenty three as well, and I thought I 78 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: was Hirings eighteen. 79 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: OK, so I like them more. 80 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: But this is dasinine, dude, this is ridiculous. 81 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 7: You know, I trust, I trust teams when they have 82 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 7: a vision with the player. I thought they probably would 83 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 7: have gone with Denzel Boston in that instance. But you know, 84 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 7: they obviously have a vision there with Stribbling, and he 85 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 7: kind of fits with what they're looking for with some 86 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 7: of the blocks that he has on the perimeter and 87 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 7: the aggressiveness and physicality that he plays with. But outside 88 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 7: of that, I haven't watched much, so I can't give 89 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 7: too much of an in depth film breakdown or thought 90 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 7: on him. He was a bit of a wildcard because 91 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 7: I really thought they were going Denzel Boston. I had 92 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 7: the Boston notes up here. I was like, oh, we're 93 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 7: talking Denzil, let's go. 94 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Baby, absolutely, and the Cleveland Browns now on the clock here, 95 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: and like, honestly, it's hard not to love what the Browns. 96 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: Did on day one, right. 97 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: They added a third round pick in pick seventy four 98 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: and the fifth rounder and pick one forty eight, trading 99 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: back with the Chiefs from six to nine. They still 100 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: got their top packle on the board, Utah's Spencer Fano. 101 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: Then they come back at twenty four they add Texas 102 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: A and m wide receiver Casey Concepts you on. That 103 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: checked off to their biggest needs, I would say, and 104 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: it's still keeps secondary up there edge. We need someone 105 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: across from Miles Garrett there as well. So that is 106 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, kind of the big circles for 107 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns here. However, we do have the pick 108 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: coming in and s talker boys. 109 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: It is Denzel Boston. 110 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: Why Washington, Hell Yes, So this is complicated now, especially 111 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: from fatas football perspective there, because now not only do 112 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: you have Denzel Boston on this offense, you got Casey 113 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: Concepsi on, you get two rookies here, you still have 114 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy. 115 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: You got Harold Fan and Junior all of a sudden, 116 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 2: still very crowded. It's feeling a bit crowded. 117 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: All if you believe in Jerry Judy, yeah, it feels crowded. 118 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 4: He's gonna get targets, okay over Boston and Casey can 119 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: hell No, man like, dude, this is fantastic. I just 120 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: the Browns are crushing this draft, man like remaking your 121 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 4: wide receiver room. Now you are leading like they are 122 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: setting up like this isn't even a Shader Sanders Deshaun 123 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: Watson kind of take. They are setting up whatever quarterback 124 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: they take. If Shador, like I think personally, you don't 125 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: run it back with Watson. You give Shador the chance 126 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 4: to earn the starting job. If he earns the star job, 127 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: he could be the answer for you. If he's not 128 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 4: the answer for you, none of these guys are the 129 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: answer for you. And you're drafting a quarterback at twenty 130 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: twenty seven, but you are setting him up perfectly. You 131 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: got Quinn Shawn Jupkins, you got a herald Fanagrid, you 132 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: got Casey concepsi On and Denzel Boston and a remade 133 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 4: offensive line. The Browns are hitting Homer's baby, like, this 134 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: is really really good. The showers of laky ere. He 135 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 4: gotta have you buzzing right now. 136 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: And Russ, maybe we should have saw this coming specifically 137 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: because last year the Browns double dipitt running back, They 138 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: double dip a quarterback. Now they double dip at another 139 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: skill position of wide receiver. 140 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: This is just masterclass. Bro. 141 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 7: Yeah, clearly they've got an identity of how they want 142 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 7: to attack certain positions in the draft. And I was 143 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 7: gonna ask that question before the pick came in. Do 144 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 7: they double down at receiver here? Do they go Denzel Boston? 145 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 7: Because I think you know, you know, I'm not a 146 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 7: fantasy guru by any means, like like debro over here, 147 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 7: I'm a draft guy. I'm a film junkie. But you know, 148 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 7: when you look at Shador Sanders in a fantasy lens, 149 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 7: like he gets a little intriguing if he wins that 150 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 7: starting job with some of these pieces. To his point, 151 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 7: you know, Harold fan and Junior Quinson Jenkins, you've got Boston, 152 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 7: You've got conception on like there's a lot to be 153 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 7: desired there in this offense and with a kind of 154 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 7: rebuilt offensive line, We're seeing that in Detroit for example 155 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 7: right now, like we've rebuilt our entire offensive line and 156 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 7: it's going to be for the better. 157 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 8: The same thing could happen here with the Cleveland Browns. 158 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see where Dynasty rookie rankings end, Derek, 159 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: because I just said I think I have CONCEPTCI on 160 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: borderline top five. 161 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: Now I think i'might have to move. 162 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: Them back a little bit just to be respectful, because 163 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: I do like Denzel Boston as a prospect a lot too. 164 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: Why just keep both of them where you have it 165 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: at like, man, like you're betting on talent, dude, like 166 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: and both of these guys got it, Like Russ, I'm 167 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: curious where you are on Boston because he was my 168 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: wide receiver three pre draft. I freaking love the kid, 169 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: like I think that I don't care about all the 170 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: forty times I don't care about. 171 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: The film tells you everything to me. 172 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: Like body, he made crappy quarterback play right so many 173 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: times when it was wrong. 174 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: But you tell me, am I insane here? 175 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 8: No, You're not insane at all. 176 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 7: I mean he was a guy that he actually you know, 177 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 7: as I wrote him in my right up for my 178 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 7: big board of one hundred and ten players. He is 179 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 7: better than given credit for. He's got the potential to 180 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 7: be a true number one receiver for an offense, prototypical size, 181 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 7: six foot four, two hundred. 182 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 8: And twelve pounds. 183 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 7: I thought the way he high pointed the football consistently, 184 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 7: the fluidity with the double moves, I mean, some of 185 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 7: those slugo routes that he's running is Man, it's so sexy, 186 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 7: it's so pure. 187 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 8: He tracks the ball well. 188 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 7: He's got good burst in pacing within his routes, bit 189 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 7: linear in his route stems, and he could struggle, I 190 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 7: think at times with some press. But man, you're talking 191 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 7: about a prototypical X receiver. He could be a true 192 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 7: number one in this offense. There's a lot to be desired. 193 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 7: He was my twenty seventh ranked player, one of my 194 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 7: four top receivers in this draft. And I love the 195 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 7: skill set and transition to him in this offense. And 196 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 7: I trust that Todd monkey and get him the football 197 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 7: with a vision within his offense. 198 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: And this is a goodness missmash of skill sets. Dude, 199 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: like you have Harold Fannin that could really just be 200 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: your dump and run tight end versatility, in line in 201 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: the slot. You have Case that can do a number 202 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: of different things playing interior, you can use him in 203 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: a number of different ways, like you're talking about I mean, dude, 204 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: just dagger concepts, like they could just absolutely just cry 205 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: out Boston and Case Bro, like we are off the race, Bro, 206 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: Like you want to talk about a quietly fun offense 207 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: this year. I am going to be investing in a 208 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 4: lot of Browns players this year and Redraft calling it. 209 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 7: A yeah, I might take the over on a lot 210 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 7: of receiving totals for these guys. I'm sure they're pretty 211 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 7: low because to Judy and Harold Fanning. But like Denzel Boston, 212 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 7: let's say, have forty receptions or something, I'm taking the 213 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 7: over casey conception, forty receptions, taking the over like it's 214 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 7: a sure hitting that all they. 215 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: Are will saying. 216 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm enough to say I turned down a trade that 217 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: I would have sent David Boston, Denzel's dad and Curtis 218 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Martin for Priese Holmes and Darryl Jackson gotta love that 219 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: man back in the way back machine and Mike Mayer Donzel. 220 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: But let's go no, you're not right, Mayor, this is 221 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: not gonna age well for you, baby, I love you. 222 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: It is the time to be a Steelers fan. UH 223 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: and the pick is Jeremy Bernard. Jeez, why receiver out 224 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: of Alabama here Jeremy Bernard. This was a really interesting 225 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: just an interesting run for Bernard, right because he's someone 226 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: who you know, starts his career elsewhere, comes here with 227 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: this new regime in Alabama this past year. 228 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: He works by Isaiah Horten. 229 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: He works with UH players like Ryan Williams who kind 230 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: of regrets and he really was that one a option 231 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: to Ty Simpson win the game matters the team who could. 232 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: Not run the ball. You're a little bit lower on 233 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: him as a prospect, though, Derek Brown. 234 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: I am only because, like it's not because I don't 235 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: think that he is a good wide receiver. I see 236 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: the floor with him, and I understand the versatility, and 237 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: I understand the pluses of his game, but. 238 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: I don't see where's the ceiling. 239 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 4: Like this is not the prospect profile of a player 240 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: that I think should have gone in the second round 241 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: in the NFL draft. 242 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: This is a wide. 243 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: Receiver where I think he's a round three, round four 244 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 4: guy where he's going to be a strong wide receiver 245 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: three four year depth chart, but I don't think he 246 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: has the ceiling to be like the number two in 247 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 4: your passing attack. So like, I just don't understand. Like, 248 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: and this is what I keep throwing out there. If 249 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: Jeremy Bernard did not go to Alabama, if Jeremy Bernard 250 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: went to Georgia Tech, would Jeremy Bernard be going in 251 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: the second round of the freaking NFL Draft? I don't 252 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 4: think so. 253 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 7: Like Russ no Ang, if he would have stayed at 254 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 7: Michigan State, he probably wouldn't be talking about in the second. 255 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: Round me exactly. 256 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 7: I will say I do like Jeremy Bernard a little bit, 257 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 7: not not saying like he is. 258 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 9: Second round pick. 259 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: Jeremy Bernard, do you like him that much? 260 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 7: He earned a late second early third round grade for 261 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 7: me on my top one ten. But and he he 262 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 7: was my forty fifth overall player. But just keep in mind, 263 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 7: I have a lot of players with a six point 264 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 7: two grade, so it's like a five way tie or 265 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 7: a ten way tie. So but at the end of 266 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 7: the day, like I was very intrigued with the way 267 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 7: he played because he played the amen ros Saint Brown 268 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 7: role for Alabama. The way that he was used in 269 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 7: line he would insert in the B and C gap 270 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 7: and block linebackers. So to me, that matters. I know 271 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 7: it doesn't matter for everybody, but that matters to me, 272 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 7: especially if you want to run the football. And I 273 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 7: think when you think of schematically of how he fits, 274 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 7: it makes sense. I think profile wise, he reminds me 275 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 7: so much of Romeo Dobbs, and I that worries me. 276 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 8: That worries me a little bit. 277 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 7: But when you think Romeo Dobs is a fourth round pick, yeah, 278 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 7: So for. 279 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 8: De Bro's point, he was a fourth round pick. 280 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 7: And he's probably nothing more than a wide receiver two 281 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 7: at best on a good day. So I think it's 282 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 7: a great compliment to what you have with DK Metcalf 283 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 7: and Michael Pittman junior. But I don't know if he's 284 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 7: necessarily going to ever be that number one receiver. But 285 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 7: I guess after you kind of get fleeced with Philly 286 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 7: and Makay Lemon slips through your hands, you gotta pivot 287 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 7: somewhere and go get your pass catchers. 288 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 8: So I'm okay with this. 289 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: Derek Brown question for you, would you rather take Jeremy 290 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: Bernard or Dejean shribbling in a diacy reflex rookie draft. 291 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 8: I hope he's faced with that decision too. 292 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: Neither neither neither neither. 293 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: Okay, let me practice this, ted Hurst, Bryce Lance, just snipe. 294 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: You are in the hole. You are on tilt right now. 295 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: You have to pick one of them. You have no 296 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: wide receivers. Your only wide receivers are Pokin Takulu who 297 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: might not play this year, and Uhribling. 298 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 4: I'll take shribbling alcase. I like, I like his rackability 299 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: better than Jeremy Bernard. Like again, this all comes down to, like, 300 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 4: if you have a strong wide receiver room, Jeremy Bernard 301 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: is nothing better than a wide receiver three on an 302 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: NFL dev chart. It's like, I just don't see the 303 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: like I think the totality of his game, like I 304 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: think that, like to Russ's point, he's a better NFL 305 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: player than he will ever be for fantasy. I just 306 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 4: don't see like this feel like a little bit of 307 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: duplicity honestly too with Michael Pittman Junior. So I kind 308 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 4: of wonder if that's some of the insurance with him, 309 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 4: because you know, we've talked about this before. Seth like 310 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: Pittman was basically sold to them for nothing nothing, so 311 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: like I kind of feel like that's a reflection of 312 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 4: like where his health is, so like, you know, maybe 313 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: this is duplicity and giving them insurance with that too. 314 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: So I will say, regardless, this is the best wide 315 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: receiver corps we've had in Pittsburgh since ab was in town. 316 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: Like if we're just being like, like you know, just 317 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: spitting facts, or I guess maybe if you want to 318 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: count the year when George Pickens was kind of coming 319 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: up and Deontay Johnson still had his head on straight 320 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: for a second, like I guess that was okay, But 321 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, I mean also. 322 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: Say poor one out for Roman Wilson, that poor dude, 323 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: never dude, he never got a chance with the previous 324 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: coaching regime and the new one comes in and they're 325 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: just like, yeah, we don't care about you. 326 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: Like. 327 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: I I got I got one, And I don't want 328 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: you to think that I am I am, I am 329 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: looking because oh no. 330 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 10: I can see that your your mind is racing right 331 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 10: now trying to like figure out, Okay, who do you 332 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 10: think it is? 333 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 9: Then? 334 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: Based on okay, I have two two thoughts, either Bryce 335 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: Lance or two. 336 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: We're going tight end, baby, We're going. 337 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: I had the pot. 338 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: I didn't going tight end in my second mock draft. 339 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: First mock draft ied Eli Stowers, So that would be 340 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: one of the if you're saying eleven, it's one of 341 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: those two coming in. 342 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: Announce it, Andrew, give me it. 343 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 10: What do you got Vanderbilt's own eliot man. 344 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: Let's go Eli Stowers tight end one and rookie ranks. Yes, 345 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: jump side jumpbo slot wide receiver, big boy coming down, 346 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: Eli Stowers. 347 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, all right, so we we we gotta break 348 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: this down boys, because I'm I'm fired up just to 349 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: like sort the room ericson. Were you seek over Stowers 350 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: coming into this process. 351 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 9: Yes, but I felt that they were in the same 352 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 9: like tier. 353 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 10: I didn't think it was like the only reason I 354 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 10: felt more comfortable Steek was I knew he was gonna 355 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 10: be a first round pick. And you just look at 356 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 10: Titans in round one versus Titans of round two. In 357 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 10: the round one Titans are just a higher, much higher 358 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 10: kit rate. 359 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 9: These round two guys. 360 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 10: Round two guys really need like the nuts like you 361 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 10: need the sam laforida landing spot to hit. 362 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 9: Most of the time. 363 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 10: As a second round pick. Yeah, I mean Dallas Stars 364 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 10: from the last year of his contract. 365 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: AJ Brown is gone. He's a New England Patriot. 366 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 10: Like, could the Eagles be like showing their hand more 367 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 10: than like, yeah, A J. Brown has gon We're gonna 368 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 10: keep dropping a receiver after a receiver after receiver. 369 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: Well, and the thing about this is, like sotours, Derek 370 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: has so much receiving upside right. 371 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: John mckew Award winner finished. 372 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Sixth in the SEC in reception sixty two seven hundred 373 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: and sixty nine yards, four touchdowns, and like he can 374 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: line up a bit everywhere. He can do out wide apparently, 375 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, Brett yelled at me and said that 376 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: he cannot play in line. So maybe you can't play 377 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: in line, but you can play out wine and play 378 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: in the backfield. 379 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: He can line up his full back. 380 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: And I think, like you know, Tyler Warren, this is 381 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: a former quarterback High Football IQ guy, except unlike Sadik, 382 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: Unlike Warren, consensus All American, multiple years of productions across 383 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: programs when he's playing in the G five as well. 384 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: So coming into this past season, boys like everyone had 385 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: him as the consensus tight end one. I'm surprised the 386 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: gap is this far now that it is, but I 387 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: think now it's gonna narrow. From fantasy standpoint, I've always 388 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: been ten toes down on Eli Stalers being the better 389 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: pass catcher for fantasy. I think that remains here. But 390 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: it's a low volume of passing ericson maybe make you 391 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: a little worried that, Hey, this isn't a team that 392 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: likes to throw the ball around a ton. But John 393 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Mannion's offense or Sean Manion's offense does use a lot 394 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: of twelve man in personnel. 395 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, so I guess for me, just like comparing it 396 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 10: to the Sadik situe, I just think there's such. 397 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 9: A better spot for yes, better spots. 398 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 10: So I think even if they are slow burns as rookies, again, 399 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 10: Dallas godd As still on the team, like they had 400 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 10: them all to smit the heat. 401 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 9: And they added another route. 402 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 10: And it's interesting because they both added, you know, top 403 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 10: receivers in his class too, both teams, the Jets and 404 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 10: the Philadelphia Eagles. But I guess I'm thinking ahead to 405 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 10: twenty twenty seven and how do the outlooks change. I 406 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 10: feel when we're comfortablebout oh Stowers is going to be 407 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 10: locked in loaded potential tight end one in this offense 408 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 10: with throughout this with mkay Lemmon versus what's the Jets 409 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 10: like next year? 410 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 9: Like so many question mark. 411 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 10: Rookie quarterback to rookie quarterback back. So I think, yeah, 412 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 10: I mean, I'm right now, I'm not gonna put poo 413 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 10: anyone that's like, oh, you gotta be Stowers over Sadik 414 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 10: and I can definitely get behind it. 415 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 9: So yeah, I'm star. 416 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: Where do you think in your rookie rankings you'll have 417 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: Stoars currently in super Flex? I mean I was a 418 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: high guy coming in. I had him seven overall. I 419 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: think maybe I'm gonna I'm gonna bump Casey above him 420 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: and Denzel probably above him, Like I think I'll maybe 421 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: be closer to eight or nine. But I think I'm 422 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: still really excited. Like late first round, I'm on it, 423 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: like White on rice Baby. 424 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 4: Late late first round, like I'm moving him up. I'm 425 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: adjusting live right now as we're talking on the scene. 426 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 4: Out of the guys that have been drafted already, I'm 427 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: putting Stours up to the one ten. I would take 428 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: them over sadiqu I would take them over Ty Simpson, 429 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 4: I think he's the first round pick. Like, I mean, dude, 430 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 4: it's just the runway is clear. 431 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: Man. It's like A. J. 432 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: Brown is gone, Dallas Goddard has gone after this year, 433 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 4: like Eli Stowers. It's like, I mean, we're kind of 434 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 4: the Eagles are telling us, like what they're gonna do 435 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 4: with all these moves, man, and I'm here for it. 436 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 4: And they needed to invest, Like their picks of the 437 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: last like two to three drafts have been so defense 438 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 4: heavy and things like that, and vic a ton of weapons. 439 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 4: They needed to address offense. And I think, like, you 440 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: know you're gonna see the Eagles now, they need to 441 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 4: get back to the trenches, like give themselves some answers 442 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 4: to the offensive line and and then how. 443 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 3: He's gonna walk away with another A plus? 444 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 10: Great from me to play play Devil's Advocate a little 445 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 10: bit fast forward twenty twenty seven. Is Eli Stowers not 446 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 10: the number three receiver on Eagles? 447 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: Though? 448 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 9: Like how appealing is that? 449 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: Because I think he's on the field more than Lemon. 450 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: But I think you look at. 451 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 9: Sto no, no, like that that that I want. 452 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 10: I wanted to that conversation because like, yeah, they drafted 453 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 10: a round one wide receiver. 454 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: Like, but but that did that stop Dallas Goddard from 455 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 4: being a strong tight end over the last few years. 456 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 10: God Goddar's production was not good when his receivers were healthy. Like, 457 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 10: that's how the Eagles office has been A J. Brown 458 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 10: has been the man every single time. But then when 459 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 10: somebody misses games or gets hurt, the other two guys. 460 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 9: We just explode. So if that's the way you. 461 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 10: Want to play it, I totally get that from a 462 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 10: Stowar stand But when Lennon is healthy, Smith is healthy, 463 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 10: Stowers is healthy, he's still third. So like I would 464 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 10: just keep that in mind when you're talking about what's 465 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 10: the ceiling play for Eli Stowers. Okay, he's still going 466 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 10: to be the number three receiver on the Eagles, which 467 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 10: again is Jalen Hurt's going to be the quarterback next year. 468 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 9: Like that's another thing too, we gotta talk. 469 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: About he will be so well. 470 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: So the pushback with that though, that I'll give you 471 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 4: ericson and just playing devil's advocate here too. That's assuming 472 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 4: that Makay Lemon can be as good of a perimeter 473 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 4: wide receiver as some other people believe. I'm not in 474 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 4: that camp, so that that also is giving Lemon the 475 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt that he can be the perimeter 476 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: wide receiver that a lot of people think he can do. 477 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 9: You think, straight up you could Towers two. 478 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 10: Okay, Okay, that that's what I wanted to have that 479 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 10: conversation because he's like one of Stours or Lemon is 480 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 10: not going to meet expectations, then yeah, one, and if 481 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 10: Stours is the one that's also cheaper in drafts, which 482 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 10: I presume just based on draft capital, he will be, 483 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 10: but he's probably the better bet to make given that 484 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 10: if he does actually be the number two, you're getting 485 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 10: that positional advantage at tight end, even if it doesn't 486 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 10: guarantee that's exactly what happens. Yeah, you know what is 487 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 10: my highest returner on investment, It would be Stours later 488 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 10: in round one versus taking Mackay Lemon at the one 489 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 10: oh five or wherever he's gonna go. 490 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 4: Well in this type of draft capital too, it's not 491 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 4: like you know it, I'm not saying it alleviates all 492 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 4: of Stours blocking like inefficiencies and things like that, but 493 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 4: going in the second round versus him going third or 494 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: fourth round is also huge. 495 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, You're completely agreed with you there, and it 496 00:21:54,520 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: is Texas A and M tight end. Nate Neat Burken Hiker. 497 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 9: New worst pick of the draft is this. It's a 498 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 9: and M tight end. 499 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: It is it is. 500 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 4: Never had over one hundred and ninety eight receiving yards 501 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 4: in any collegiate season, has never the past one point 502 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: four yards per route run. But I guess when you 503 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 4: gotta grab the tight end to you know, you gotta 504 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 4: do it, dude, Jacksonville. 505 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: This is all, this is. 506 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: Gladstone might be quietly one of the worst gems in 507 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: all football. Like, tell me I'm wrong here, boys, the 508 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: Travis Hunter trade, what they did in his rookie season, 509 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: taking this guy in round two? 510 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 3: This is hot garbage. This is this is horrible. Horrible, Yeah, horrible. 511 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 10: I'm not gonna pretend I know enough about this specific 512 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 10: tight end to give a groundbreaking analysis on him. I 513 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 10: know that there were a couple that did like him 514 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 10: as a sleeper, and that stats is not necessarily the 515 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 10: real life tight end is probably better than the fantasy 516 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 10: tight end, obviously, and the Jaguars already have a bunch 517 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 10: of tight ends that they use on their roster. 518 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 9: So I think this is probably pick. 519 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: This is horrible. 520 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 10: I'm surprised they didn't go again, they not They needed 521 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 10: a linebacker and they lost Devin Lloyd this offseason, so 522 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 10: I think he Hillt Anthony Hillton on the board, right, 523 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 10: they could have gone with the linebacker here. 524 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, linebacker in that corner. Safety they could have used. 525 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: I mean Emmanuel McNeil. Warren is still on the board. 526 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got you got Brenton Strange. It's 527 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: like part of Brenton Stranger's capability is Breton Strange is 528 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: one of the better blocking tight ends in the league. 529 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: He's a complete tight end. I just feel like it's 530 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of a yeah is it? This is 531 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: the worst pick right now. 532 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: I don't know. The stribbling one's pretty bad at the 533 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: top of the second, but this is. 534 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: I mean stribbling, and I mean this is in the running. 535 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 9: I mean Stribling was essentially first round pick. 536 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 537 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 10: Mean the Jaguars used their first pick. It's fifty sixth 538 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 10: overall though, so and Brente is a free agent after 539 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 10: this year, so if he walks and they need if. 540 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 9: They need if they were like we need a blocking 541 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 9: tight end. Okay, but dude. 542 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: But I mean, like, yeah, Sam Roush is still on 543 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 4: the board. If you needed a blocking tight end, you 544 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: could have gone and got him. Oscar delp is still 545 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 4: on the board, like Eli reared him, like any one 546 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: of these guys. 547 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: This is a terrible pick man. 548 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 10: De Bro Fantasy Pros, and the chat is saying that 549 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 10: this tight end didn't even make your top one hundred. 550 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 3: No, he didn't still position players which. 551 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 4: When I got when I got into the dregs of 552 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: like the lower parts of this class, like Sey to 553 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 4: Trey or over him, Matthew Hibbed or over him like 554 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 4: I I was gonna I'm gonna add him to the 555 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 4: top one hundred, but I didn't feel the necessity to 556 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 4: like get him in there before the draft. 557 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: This is bad, I thought too, If like you're gonna 558 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: go with this like h bac type of player, maybe 559 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: like Josh Klavis, a guy who I'm a big fan 560 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: of at the. 561 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: Camerack out of Ohio State, pick him, Yeah, either one 562 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 3: of these guys. 563 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's it's a question mark for sure. However, where 564 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have any question marks is when you get 565 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: into your Fantasy pros uh Dynasty rookie draft by you, Well, 566 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: you're not using the Fancy Pros. But whether you're on 567 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: Sleep or whatever, you know, whatever platform using used to 568 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: make sure you're using the Fancy Pros Trade Analyzer or 569 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: almost had it there, guys, but your rookie draft is win. 570 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: A lot of your dynasty league trade action will happen 571 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: and will be going down, so make sure you win 572 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: those trades. 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What Derek always has to win the trade 577 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: he does. 578 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 2: I've actually never played in the league with Derek, but 579 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: I'll change this year. 580 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 4: Rickson, You've you've got some good trades off of me, sir, 581 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: thank you very much. 582 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 9: I took the l on them because I was the 583 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 9: only way to get the deal done. 584 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 10: Is this move not the same as didn't the Cardinals 585 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 10: take a tight end in like the second round? 586 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 9: Yeahs is? Any who that was? 587 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: No, it was t was a Tip Riymond and maybe 588 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: yes I think it was Tip Rymond. 589 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean. 590 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: Either way, this is this is a horrible pick. Man, 591 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 4: Like I just I can't deny. 592 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 3: I'm trying to find I mean, my whole thing about this. 593 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: This isn't my problem with like, okay, find the player, 594 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 3: but did you. 595 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 4: Have to do this at pick fifty six in the 596 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 4: second round? 597 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, there's no way. 598 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: You don't have a lot of picks either. You don't 599 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 2: have a lot of picks on this. 600 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: There's just no way you can justify this pick. Here. 601 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: It's Marlon Klein, Michigan, Michigan, Overseas kid. Yes, sir, yes, sir, Okay, 602 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: Marlon Klein another guy that Derek. I don't know about you. 603 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: I do not have Marlon Klein ranked in my rookie 604 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: rankings right now. This is the second and to day 605 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: off the board. I only ranked out to fifteen, though, 606 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: so I don't know how far you went. 607 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: I do not have Klein. I will say, though Klin 608 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: like ranked, Okay, where do you have him? 609 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: Let me see where I got him? He was. 610 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: I'm pulling on my ranks right now. I want to 611 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: say Marlon Kleine was I had him a little bit 612 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 4: above consensus. Marlon Klein, No, No, he was tight end 613 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 4: seventeen for me, Okay, tight end seventeen. I mean, and 614 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 4: I only I only watched and ranked twenty one guys 615 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 4: to take that for what it's worth. But like I 616 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: had him, I think I think he'll be solid man. 617 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 4: I think he's more of like you're in line, He's 618 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 4: going to be the guy they play alongside Dalton Schultz 619 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 4: and give him twelve twelve personnel versatility. 620 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: Eric ricks In your thoughts, do we maybe lose Ericson? 621 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, I know we still got you. 622 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 10: You got your I'm lagging a little bit because of 623 00:27:52,560 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 10: my YAH spreadsheets trying to look up Marlon Klein. Basically, 624 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 10: essentially that's what was happening. My my computer was overloading. 625 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 10: So last year so basically again talked about how he 626 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 10: came over from Germany, so late starters to football, sat 627 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 10: behind a bunch of super talented tight ends at Michigan, 628 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 10: Colston Lovelin, AJ Barner never got really a chance to play. 629 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 10: This past year. He has this breakout game Week one 630 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 10: and we're like, is this the next guy at Michigan? 631 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 9: He yets, yeah, I. 632 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: Spent a ton of fab and on him. 633 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 10: I spent yeah, So we never really got to see 634 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 10: it play out. And he was also an early declarer, 635 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 10: which is kind of interesting because he doesn't have the 636 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 10: counting stand So the NFL, again going back to sometimes 637 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 10: there are players that the NFL is just really really 638 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 10: high on that necessarily the media isn't matching. 639 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 9: That type of hype. 640 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 10: Career target rate per outrun that's really strong for a 641 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 10: tight end, So when he's on the field, he's getting 642 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 10: targeted at a high rate. So I don't think that 643 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 10: this is a situation where it's like, oh, this random 644 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 10: tight ends got drafted, like fade him into oblivion. I 645 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 10: think there might be something here with Marlon Klein, and 646 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 10: obviously the draft capital is going to move him up 647 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 10: rookie rankings, but I think when you look at him 648 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 10: as a projection, I think there is some justification by yeah, 649 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 10: he should have gone higher and he should have been 650 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 10: higher ranked in the pre draft process because of the 651 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 10: potential that he could offer and also coming from Michigan. 652 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 10: A lot of project Titans have come out of Michigan, 653 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 10: most notably Loveland and j aj Barner. 654 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 9: The last couple of. 655 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: Years, okay, okay, Los Angeles Rams on the clock. Los 656 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams have made the pick as well. 657 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: And this is. 658 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: The sad one that have selected Oha State tight end 659 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: Max Claire. So if yet any hope for you know, 660 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: let's three in this class to be happy about. 661 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 10: This is worse than the the This is worse than 662 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 10: the modern clime pick. I think it's worse, Bro. 663 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 8: I just wan. 664 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, the wide receivers on the board right now, you 665 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: haven't need a wide receiver. You drafted Terrence Ferguson's. 666 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 9: Good too, So good. 667 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 3: Is less speed? 668 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: Just like blindly tossing dars, Like all right, whoever I 669 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 4: hit we're gonna draft? 670 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 9: Is I seem soon? 671 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: Cool? 672 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 10: Like fifteen personnels? I think how many tight it's keep playing? 673 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: I don't know the rams are gonna try? 674 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 4: Man if he says t Hickbee too, Bro, Like what, 675 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: I don't understand what we're doing here? 676 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 9: All the It's not like. 677 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 4: Max Clare is a different archetype. He's not a great blocker. 678 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 4: He's a receiving first tight end like you. The other 679 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: thing about is I call it one of the presser 680 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 4: is about like Sean ma Bab was talking about. He 681 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 4: was like last year we would have drafted Terrence Ferguson 682 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: in the first round. 683 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: But we got him in the second. So you're telling. 684 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 4: Us, in back to back draft classes, you would have 685 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: spent a first round pick on a tight end last year. 686 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 4: That's how high you are on Ferguson and you're spending 687 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 4: a second on Max Claire. And he's also the same archetype. 688 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 4: He's a receiving first tight end. He's not a great blocker. 689 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: I I just I don't know what the hell the 690 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: Rams are doing right now, man, Like this draft class 691 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 4: is just flumbing sing me like, I don't I don't 692 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 4: understand it. 693 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: Claire's interesting because he was someone in this past season. 694 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: He wasn't the tight end one in CFF leagues, but 695 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: he was the top three guys specifically because he was 696 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: on that same produced team as as Thinnemon, which just 697 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: had like actually kind of good players, but they're just 698 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: terrible because they had no quarterback and no run game 699 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: to speak of. But Claire Claire is really really high 700 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: projected this year. It just like when you have Jeremiah 701 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: Smith out there and you also at the same time 702 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: have Carnell Tate they're competing for with targets and big, 703 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: big big Bo Jackson in the batfield. 704 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: It's gonna, you know, be hard to put up a 705 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: lot of production. But I don't hate it. I don't 706 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: hate it at all. 707 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: I like it if you don't, so, I mean, here's no, 708 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 4: here's the thing. I don't hate the value on Max Claire. 709 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 4: I don't like to fit for the Rams because would 710 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: need to do this, why would the prospect? 711 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: I don't like this. 712 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: I don't like the fit. Yeh, so I should have 713 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: been the one. 714 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 10: I mean they're really leaning into this tight end thing, 715 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 10: like they're not taking wide receivers there do they? 716 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: Did they just extend Higbee though? Or is Higby gone? 717 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 6: Well? 718 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 10: I mean Higby is supposed to come back, but he's 719 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 10: also really old, so it's a matter of Okay, it's 720 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 10: going to be a long term I just don't think 721 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 10: that he's like in their long term plans where yeah, 722 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 10: Claire obviously is, Karen Furrison obviously is, but igree with 723 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 10: deebro where there's a little bit more of an overlap 724 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 10: between Claire and Ferguson, where maybe I expect more of 725 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 10: a run blocking tight end that maybe looks more like 726 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 10: Kobe Parkinson. I don't know how many more years he 727 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 10: has under his contract or how much more guaranteed money 728 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 10: he has shot. 729 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 3: They also have Parkinson, Yeah like. 730 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 9: They Yeah, they paid Parkinson. 731 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 10: So look, the Rams are committed to using multiple tight ends, 732 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 10: and I think that's going to continue. 733 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, but this is I mean, I understand the commitment, 734 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 4: but this is I mean, we were going overboard here, man, 735 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: Like I would be different if. 736 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 10: If Ferguson flopped two in year one, which I don't 737 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 10: think he did, Like I. 738 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: Know he had flashes whenever he was actually on the 739 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 4: freaking field. Man Like, I I don't understand what the 740 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 4: Rams are doing. Like, is Sean mcvay's just gonna come 741 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 4: out like in the middle of the summer and be like, 742 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 4: all right, forget it. I'm heading to the broadcast booth. 743 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 4: Screw you guys, I'm going home, Like what ever? Man 744 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 4: Like this this is wild. 745 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: And again to Cody Lawler and Chatlick, it's not about 746 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: Claire not being on a ball, right, No, this. 747 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: Is not about Claire so much. 748 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: It's like a fit, like why are you drafting when 749 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 4: you drafted Terrence Ferguson, Yeah got Tyler Higbee and you 750 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 4: got Kobe Parkinson. You really felt like tight end four 751 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: on the damn pep chart was something you needed to 752 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 4: address in round two. 753 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, just like that make it seem really bad, 754 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 9: like tight end four in ten. 755 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 4: Four on their depth chart and we had to go 756 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 4: get him in round two. 757 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 9: There's still to do it. Strong wide receivers on the board. 758 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: Stribbling going to the Niners, Fitzy. 759 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 7: H what. 760 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 8: Thirty third overall? Dejon Stribbling a super senior, a guy 761 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 8: who played at three different schools. Look, I know he 762 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 8: is a really good blocker for a wide receiver and 763 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 8: is pretty good after the catch. But man, you're you're 764 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 8: telling me you couldn't have trade it down and gotten 765 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 8: him later in the round, or let's be honest, probably 766 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 8: the third. Who are you worried about losing him to 767 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 8: the Rams? I mean maybe the Rams might have grabbed 768 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 8: him later. 769 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 5: On, but they must see heinz ward I just like 770 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 5: you have to to take him that high. You have 771 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 5: to see that type of player in him or archetype. 772 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 8: I guess the funny thing is, like, I know, I 773 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 8: was surprised when Dane Brugler had him ranked like eleventh 774 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 8: among wide receivers or whatever. I thought that was high, 775 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 8: and then they took him as what this the sixth 776 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 8: overall receiver. 777 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, so well we have our first pick here in 778 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 6: the third round. Carson Beck is the third quarterback off 779 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 6: the board here, going to the Cardinals. This was a 780 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 6: pairing that was thrown out as a possibility by some 781 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 6: people coming into today, and it does come to fruition. 782 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 6: I know that this is not like our favorite quarterback year, 783 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 6: because let's be real, there were no favorite quarterbacks among 784 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 6: us after got past Mendoza. But what do we think about? 785 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 6: I mean, there's no really no team with more of 786 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 6: an opportunity here. You know, not only is Jacoby Brissett 787 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 6: your biggest competition, but he is now you know, holding 788 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 6: out for a bigger bag. So there's really a runway here. 789 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 6: Fits does the landing even though even if you weren't 790 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 6: the biggest Carson Back fan, does a landing spot raise 791 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 6: your eyebrows at all? 792 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 8: I mean, I just don't like the direction that the 793 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 8: franchise is going, so, like, I don't feel good about that. 794 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 8: And now he top of the third is like this 795 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 8: sort of quarterback purgatory, like he's probably going to get 796 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 8: an audition at some point, but by no means are 797 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 8: they paving the way for him to be the starter 798 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 8: of the future. So I just there's something missing with Beck. 799 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 8: I think he gets a little rattled under pressure. Just 800 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 8: it seems like big moments can be a little too 801 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 8: much for him at times. I don't know, what do 802 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 8: you think, Bogs, It's just I don't know if he 803 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 8: handles pressure well enough to be an NFL quarterback. 804 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're right. 805 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 5: Whether he is a sustainable starter in the NFL is 806 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 5: a massive question. But you like all the stuff coming 807 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 5: in right. Thirty nine starts at the collegiate level, lots 808 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 5: of experience there, really cut down on the turnover worthy plays, 809 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 5: as you know in his last season in college and 810 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 5: led Miami all the way down the stretch. He was 811 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 5: good enough to not make mistakes. And he's surrounded by 812 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 5: Jeremiah Love and Marvin Harrison and Michael Wilson. Then went 813 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 5: and got Kendrick Bourn and Trey McBride. Is a great target, right, 814 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 5: So like, whoever is given the keys to this offense 815 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 5: is going to be a decent producer at the quarterback position. 816 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 5: I don't know if I would bet on Beck long term, 817 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 5: but it's way better than him going and sitting behind 818 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 5: a veteran for a long time, so I do think that, 819 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 5: like Worm said, there's a runway for him to potentially 820 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 5: take this job at some point this year. 821 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 6: Do you think now that we know the landing spots 822 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 6: for Sidik and Stours, Like you talked a lot when 823 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 6: I was trying to make the case before the draft 824 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 6: of Stowers being in the same tier as Sadik, that 825 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 6: landing spot was gonna be really critical for him. How 826 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 6: do you feel about it now with Philly as the 827 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 6: landing spot. 828 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 2: I love it. 829 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 5: I don't think Goddard has one more year, right, so, 830 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 5: like I think Goddard has another year and then he's 831 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 5: probably gone, so Stowers can take over. It's gonna take 832 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 5: a little bit. I don't think he's gonna drop right 833 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 5: in there. But we kind of didn't think that about 834 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 5: a Harold Fannin because Djoku was still in Cleveland last year. 835 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 5: So I think Sours is going to be a great 836 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 5: fit in Philly. 837 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: I really like it. 838 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, it's it's gonna feel like I don't 839 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 6: want to call it a red shirt year, but it's 840 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 6: gonna take a bit for Kenyan Sidik too. For no 841 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 6: other reason then the offensive situation he's in, So it's 842 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 6: not like we're getting one guy to be a stud 843 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 6: right away. You are sort of anticipating that it might 844 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 6: take time for both of these guys, and one of 845 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 6: them is with an organization that we have a lot 846 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 6: more trust in. Fits. 847 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 8: Yes, sorry, I was just checking something on Markel Bell. 848 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 8: I might have if there was a question in there 849 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:03,959 Speaker 8: I missed at Worm. 850 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 6: I just just said you have about Stours versus Sadiq, 851 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 6: now that we know the landing spots. 852 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 8: For both, Yeah, I'm team Stowers right now. I was 853 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 8: just really dismayed by the CDC landing spot. We talked 854 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 8: about this a little bit last night, and also just 855 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 8: sort of the overlapping of Omar, Cooper and Sadik. Like 856 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 8: I know, Frank w Reich sort of likes the dink 857 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 8: and do dounk stuff and a lot of middle of 858 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 8: the field stuff, but it just seems like there's so 859 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 8: many guys who are going to be running those routes 860 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 8: for the Jets, and like between tight End, Zee and Slot, 861 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 8: you've basically got these four guys. Now, you know, you've 862 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 8: got Garrett Wilson, Omar Cooper, Kenyon Sadik and then Mason 863 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 8: Taylor It's just it's kind of an overcrowded situation for 864 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 8: a team we know is not going to have one 865 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 8: of the better passing games in the league. So I 866 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 8: just don't like the value of Citik at all. 867 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 6: Well, I think you're probably also good at this pick 868 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 6: for the Bears because it's your boy, Sam Rouch. I mean, 869 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 6: I hate for him, but if it's a player you. 870 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, it's it is a player I really like 871 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 5: in Sam Roush. But come on now, they still have 872 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 5: Cole Comet. 873 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 8: On this team, right, yeah they do. 874 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 5: I mean, when is Sam Roush ever gonna play? What 875 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 5: is with all these blocking titles? 876 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 6: I don't know that Comets long for the Bears. 877 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah he's not. 878 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 6: But and it's not clearly an offense that wants to 879 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 6: have two, you know, capable tight ends. So I'm not 880 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 6: surprised that they want to have a next man up 881 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 6: behind Comet for now or the future. And if they 882 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 6: think he's really good, which you thought he was really good, 883 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 6: I mean, again, from the Bear's perspective, I think it 884 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 6: makes sense. 885 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 5: I do like him, but I mean, you know, take 886 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 5: it out of just the tight end perspective, right, So, 887 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 5: Luther Burden and Roma Dunze there as well, So plus 888 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 5: the run game, there's gonna be two running backs ahead 889 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 5: of him, a tight end, and two wide receivers, so 890 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 5: he's six in the pecking order at best most games. 891 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: So unless there's. 892 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 5: An injury to Loveland or he is just way better 893 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 5: than we thought, which I don't know if that's the case. 894 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 2: So I'm ready for the Niners. 895 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 6: Weird pick though it fits. This is yet again a 896 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 6: player that we were hoping might end up being relevant 897 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 6: in fantasy and a potential fun third or fourth round 898 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 6: pick that is not in the best you know, opportunistic 899 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 6: landing spot, so that it's another guy kind of checking off, crossing. 900 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 8: Off the list. No, I know, having to share the 901 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 8: tight end spot with Colston Loveland, who's an absolute monster. 902 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 8: I do think we're going to see the Bears play 903 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 8: a lot of two tight end sets. But still, I mean, 904 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 8: it's just that is a suboptimal landing spot for a 905 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 8: tight end that Bogs and I really liked, and and 906 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 8: you like, we've kind of been in on him the hall, 907 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 8: the whole pre draft process. Very disappointing landing spot. 908 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 6: Commander is their biggest thing that they need to take 909 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 6: as a receiver. I know a lot of my friends 910 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 6: who are Washington fans are kind of hoping for a 911 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 6: guy like Ted Hurst. I know we have some other 912 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 6: receivers that we like higher than him that we've talked 913 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 6: about in the pre draft process. Oh, it looks like 914 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 6: the pick is in Antonio Williams. So they do go 915 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 6: with a receiver. They go receiver out of Clemson. This 916 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 6: is a player that we liked. Do you like to 917 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 6: fit particularly in Washington, paired across from Terry McLaurin and 918 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 6: outside of Terry, a whole lot of target opportunity here fits. 919 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 8: I like it a lot. Four four speed, really explosive 920 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 8: with the ball in his hands, four year producer at Clemson. Like, 921 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 8: this guy was impactful in his true freshman year. So 922 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 8: there's a lot to like. I know those numbers from 923 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 8: the final season weren't great, but yeah, like this is 924 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 8: a guy they tried to get the ball on jet 925 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 8: sweeps and you know, like little gadgety ways. But he 926 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 8: can also be a decent route runner and beat people 927 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 8: that way. So I'm a fan of the pick. Like, 928 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 8: I think he's a good receiver, and I think I 929 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 8: like him nearly as much as I like Jeremy Bernard. 930 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 8: I think I'd rather have Bernard, but I think it's close. 931 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 6: I mean, is Williams. This is gonna sound kind of crazy, 932 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 6: but just considering how many players I feel like have 933 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 6: lost value with their landing spots, this seems one that's 934 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 6: like a really enticing fit. Is he like a borderline 935 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 6: late first round pick in rookie drafts? I mean again, like, 936 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 6: who is going to take that eleventh and twelfth spot 937 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 6: right now that you feel good about because the names 938 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 6: we were thrown out before and are not getting the 939 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 6: great landing spots or if there was a running back 940 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 6: hasn't even been drafted yet. This is a player that 941 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 6: we maybe I don't know if we loved, but we 942 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 6: certainly liked and there's gonna be a real opportunity here, Bogman, 943 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 6: I mean, where should he go in rookie mods? 944 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 5: Oh, let me ask you this, FITZI you want Ty 945 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 5: Simpson and you want Antonio Williams. Oh, Ty Simpson, I 946 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 5: think so too, So that would push him down for 947 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 5: me into the third round. 948 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 2: I would have him. 949 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 5: I think I would have him ahead of Bernard just 950 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 5: because of the fact that the Steelers are going to 951 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 5: be a run first team. I don't know the quarterback is, 952 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 5: you know, so I think I might have him, you know, 953 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 5: you do. Burk's had a pretty good year for Washington, 954 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 5: and are we getting anything out of Luke McCaffrey. 955 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 2: I think these are decent questions. 956 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 5: He's gonna have to beat out these guys right now, 957 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 5: and maybe Jalen Lane who they took last year. And 958 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 5: they have some gross vets in there in Van Jefferson 959 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 5: Tami Brown, But I don't think these guys are gonna 960 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 5: keep Antonio Williams out the field very long. 961 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 8: I agree with you on on Antonio Williams over Jeremy 962 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 8: Bernard in Dynasty. Now coming into pre draft, I like 963 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,959 Speaker 8: Jeremy Bernard a little more, but this is a much 964 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 8: better landing spot for Antonio Williams. I mean, the Pittsburgh 965 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 8: quarterback situation is just such a you know, it's so 966 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 8: opaqu right now, we don't know and they have. 967 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 5: Metcalfin Pittman and Friarmuth right like, so there's a lot 968 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 5: of targets in the passing game itself, and they're run 969 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 5: first team, So you know, I think this, uh, this 970 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 5: fit for Washington is better than Bernard to Pittsburgh for fantasy. 971 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 6: Just once you brought up Ty Simpson, I want to 972 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 6: ask you guys, you know, sort of the next day 973 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 6: that we've had some time to merit in on it, 974 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 6: what do you guys make of Sean McVay seemingly like 975 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 6: not having been I know they've had some reporting today 976 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 6: where they're trying to push back against that narrative, But like, 977 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 6: Sean McVay is not a guy who hides his emotions 978 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 6: and opinions very well, and he like he just so 979 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 6: clearly looked angry. Like I find it very hard to 980 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 6: believe the narrative coming out today that he actually was 981 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 6: very on board of the pick. At the same time, 982 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 6: I totally get the people who say, like, there's literally 983 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 6: no chance the Rams are going to make that a 984 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 6: pick like that without his blessing, but he sure looks 985 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 6: mad about it. Does that change your opinion of Ty 986 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 6: Simpson at all? 987 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 2: Fits? 988 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 6: I mean, no, we didn't love him that much, but 989 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 6: we said, well, now kind of has to be a 990 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 6: higher pick because he's got the Sean McVay endorsement. Are 991 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 6: we sure he has that endorsement? How do you feel 992 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 6: about him? The day later? 993 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm I'm not letting myself get swayed by the 994 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 8: McVeigh reaction. You just don't know, end of a long day. 995 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 8: Maybe it was just the way things caught him, and 996 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 8: he was feeling especially perky at the time. So you know, 997 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 8: it's I'm still not a firm believer in the player, 998 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 8: but it's such a good situation, like maybe we can 999 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 8: get him molded into the player we saw for the 1000 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 8: first ten games of the twenty twenty five Alabama season, 1001 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 8: because Simpson was really good during that period. So I 1002 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 8: mean this it does parallel to the Packers' situation in 1003 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 8: twenty twenty in some ways, where they didn't need a 1004 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 8: quarterback immediately, they knew they were going to need one 1005 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 8: in a year or two, and Love wound up backing 1006 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 8: up Aaron Rodgers for two years, not just one. Love 1007 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 8: said on the bench for two years on ice when 1008 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 8: he came in, he was pretty well ready to go, 1009 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 8: like and you know, we've seen him emerge and become 1010 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 8: a top ten quarterback. I don't know if Tyson Simpson 1011 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 8: has that type of upside, but the situations are I 1012 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 8: think they parallel each other in interesting ways because both 1013 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 8: teams Packers then, like the Rams now had Super Bowl 1014 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 8: aspirations at the time. 1015 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 5: Fits are you more upset about Ty Simpson or Max 1016 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 5: Clair going to the Rams where they already have Terrence Ferguson? 1017 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 8: I know I hated that. Hey, yeah, I mean Ferguson Parkinson. 1018 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 8: I mean they they still is Higbee there, still vis Allen. 1019 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 6: I mean just a name there, like oh yeah, so 1020 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 6: you know do you well, let me ask you this 1021 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 6: fits as you answer, do you hate it more for 1022 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 6: Claire or for Ferguson? Because I was so excited about 1023 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 6: Ferguson for for me, for both, I mean I was 1024 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 6: for me. It's I was really excited about him for 1025 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 6: next year. 1026 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm gonna have to drop both of those guys 1027 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 8: in my dynasty rankings. 1028 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 6: By the way, tight end Oscar Delp out of Georgia 1029 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 6: goes to the Saints here with. 1030 00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 8: Three very very poor man's brock Bowers, Brokens. 1031 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 6: Brock Down, Delp with somebody that some of the Ravens 1032 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 6: beat reporters thought they might be targeting in round three. 1033 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 6: So he goes a handful of picks before their Malachi 1034 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 6: fields at a Notre Dame. 1035 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 8: Who's the Giants? 1036 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 6: That one I actually like he's a player that I liked. 1037 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 6: I think it's a good fit next to Malik Neighbors 1038 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 6: once he's back healthy. And by the way, we don't 1039 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 6: know how like Neighbors. There hasn't been a ton of 1040 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 6: positive reporting on that, so there might be a real 1041 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 6: opportunity early on if Fields can hit the ground running. 1042 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 6: But I think this is a pretty nice selection by 1043 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 6: the Giants, and one of the first times in a 1044 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 6: while that I feel like it is a pretty good, 1045 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 6: pretty good fit here. It fits. This is a player 1046 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 6: that I know you liked. 1047 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, just a ball winner. He is a big dude. 1048 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 8: I want to say. Is he six' four six and 1049 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 8: a half to eighteen and a thirty eight inch vertical, 1050 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 8: Jump so like it's kind of odd that he didn't 1051 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 8: score many touchdowns in. COLLEGE i don't know if he 1052 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 8: ever had more than five touchdowns in a single, season 1053 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 8: because he could be a guy who eventually at some 1054 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 8: point has like a double digit touchdown, season because he 1055 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 8: is that sort of red zone, weapon a guy you 1056 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 8: just you. KNOW i know a lot of people complain 1057 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 8: about how inefficient the fade routes, are but this is 1058 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 8: the kind of guy you throw all fade route two 1059 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 8: when you're at the five yard. Line so, YEAH i, 1060 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 8: MEAN i think he's a good complimentary receiver. TOO i 1061 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 8: was wondering Whether, malech Whether Malachi fields Or Elijah surat 1062 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 8: would go, First so, YEAH i Mean, Fields AND i 1063 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 8: know he ran a four to six four six two 1064 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 8: something like that at the. Combine it turned a lot 1065 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 8: of people. Off but in his, size that's still like 1066 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 8: a seventy second percentile speed. Score he's not slow for 1067 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 8: a big. Dude four six two is not that. 1068 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 6: Bad, Yeah i'm not particularly worried about the speed with. 1069 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 6: Him he. 1070 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 5: Do you. Know the thing With fields that bothered me 1071 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 5: was that he wasn't better in contested situations with his, 1072 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 5: size AND i think that's why he doesn't have those 1073 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 5: crazy touchdown numbers career forty seven point three contested catch, 1074 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 5: rate which is just not really. Good he had issues 1075 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 5: with physical, Cbs SO i just used to learn that 1076 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 5: frame a little bit. Better maybe he hit the gym 1077 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 5: a little bit, more bulk up a little bit more to. 1078 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 6: Be a little. 1079 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 5: Stronger and he really did dominate The Senior. Bowl he 1080 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 5: dominated practice reps in was good in the. Game So 1081 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 5: I'm i'm excited to see. 1082 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 6: Fields want to let everybody know That Our Dynasty Rookie 1083 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 6: Draft simulator lets you complete a mock in minutes with 1084 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 6: no waiting between. Picks customize your league settings to match 1085 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 6: your league's exact. 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Season what do you guys think about? 1094 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,720 Speaker 6: That specifically from the angle Of harold Fannin bogman you, first? 1095 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 6: NEUTRAL i would say it's probably a net negative slightly 1096 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 6: because you have guys that will take targets away from 1097 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 6: him and are just better than the players that they 1098 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 6: have there right. Now so probably a net, negative but 1099 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 6: Not it's not a killer To fannon's value at. 1100 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 5: All adding these, guys you know it should open up 1101 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 5: everything in the, offense which is. Nice so probably just 1102 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 5: a slight net negative for fannin. 1103 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 8: FITS i don't think, YEAH i don't think we can 1104 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 8: say it's. NEUTRAL i think it does hurt a little 1105 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 8: bit that they are now credible. WEAPONS i wish we 1106 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,439 Speaker 8: felt better about The browns passing game, overall and maybe 1107 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 8: we wouldn't worry about. IT i, mean our friend of the, 1108 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 8: Show Andrew cooper Of Fantasy, alarm always likes to say 1109 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 8: the key to you, know finding good values at tight 1110 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 8: end is one of the things is ask yourself the, 1111 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 8: question can he be one of the top two targets 1112 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 8: in his team's? Offense AND i still Think fannon can. 1113 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 3: Be. 1114 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 8: Yes wouldn't surprise me if he outproduced Both boston And. 1115 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 8: Concepcion it's just not the slam. Dunk you, know before the, 1116 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 8: draft with what they had on their depth, chart it 1117 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 8: was a slam. Dunk he was going to be a 1118 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 8: top two target in that. Offense now there's a little more, 1119 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 8: competition SO i do think he loses maybe a little 1120 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 8: bit of, value but still got to be bullish on. 1121 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 8: Him he's really. 1122 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 6: Talented another friend of the, Show Tara, ROBERTS i saw 1123 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 6: sweet at. Earlier she was, like we really Saw kenny 1124 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 6: and Sadik Omar, Cooper Casey, concepcio And Denzel boston all 1125 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 6: go to The browns Or. JETS i mean that was 1126 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 6: picks one oh six through one oh nine for us 1127 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 6: in our most recent MOCK i believe in some, order 1128 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 6: and all four of them go to the two worst run. 1129 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 6: Franchises he feels like pretty annual. 1130 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 8: And our Zest land in the chat asks when are 1131 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 8: The dolphins going to take a? Receiver like THEY i 1132 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 8: like what they're, Doing but. 1133 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 6: Just To Caleb, douglas they took takeaway right. Now Caleb 1134 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 6: douglas literally right. Now it's great timing to bring that. 1135 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 2: Up what the hell are The dolphins? 1136 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 5: Doing he's two hundred and sixteen on the mock draft 1137 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 5: data based big, Board Caleb, Douglas. 1138 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 8: Well hold on that. FINE i MEAN i don't dislike 1139 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 8: their draft in general until that. PICK i liked what 1140 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 8: they were doing before. That, so, oh, No, bogs. 1141 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 2: Is it SOMEBODY i? 1142 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:53,240 Speaker 6: HATE i haven't seen. It oh my, GOSH i can't. 1143 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 2: Wait i'm like five seconds bhying you. 1144 00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 8: Guys It's Drew. Aller oh my, Goodness oh, man. 1145 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,760 Speaker 2: GOD. 1146 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 6: I When fitz, said oh, NO i was, like who 1147 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 6: could it? Be that's that you're not throwing? AWAY i 1148 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 6: hate this P i, No i'm not. Surprised do you 1149 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 6: hate this? 1150 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 2: Bag? 1151 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 6: Vin you want to let me let me clear the 1152 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 6: paint here and let you so much worm my, God 1153 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 6: for those who maybe haven't seen some of our earlier 1154 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 6: shows and discussions on the quarterback, position can you let 1155 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 6: everybody know why you hate this pick so? 1156 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 5: Much Because Drew allers. Sucks he's not a good. Quarterback 1157 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 5: he is a. Statue he is the frame of the 1158 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 5: quarterback that you, want but he is not a good. 1159 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 5: QUARTERBACK i there's just something maybe he can. DEVELOP i 1160 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 5: don't you, know McCarthy develops. Guys So i'm trying to 1161 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 5: find some positivity, here, Man BUT i just really do 1162 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 5: not Like Drew. 1163 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 8: ALLEN i, mean he looks like he came out of 1164 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 8: the you, know off a conveyor belt at the quarterback. 1165 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 8: Factory but he there's. 1166 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 2: Just somewhere he was last in line for. 1167 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 8: Brains then he can't. PROCESS i mean when he came 1168 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 8: in when he was At Sean, clifford he replaced LIKE 1169 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 8: i saw that guy And i'm, like, oh this guy 1170 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 8: looks like a future number one, pick but then he 1171 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 8: just never got any. Better AND i mean by the 1172 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 8: time he, LEFT i actually Thought Christian hackenberg was a 1173 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 8: Better Penn state. Quarterback AND i know how everyone felt 1174 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 8: About Christian. HACKENBERG i want to ask On. 1175 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 6: ALER i, mean he obviously he goes before Nuss, meyer 1176 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 6: he goes before you, know a guy Like Cole payton 1177 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 6: who deepro Liked Taylor, green like a high upside. Guy 1178 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 6: obviously Behind Carson beck just given the fact that it's 1179 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 6: round three and, he's you, know theoretically could learn Behind 1180 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 6: Aaron rodgers and is Under mike McCarthy and there's no 1181 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 6: other quarterback really competing with. Him, like does this intrigue 1182 00:54:59,200 --> 00:54:59,760 Speaker 6: you at? 1183 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 8: All? 1184 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 6: All with a third round pick in a superflex rookie 1185 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 6: draft FITS i, mean we've been pretty strongly avoiding him 1186 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 6: in those. Mocks is this like they can give him 1187 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 6: a chance to? Know just a hard, no even hard, No, 1188 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 6: no he. 1189 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 2: Sucks this is a wasted draft. 1190 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 6: Pick sticking you, know with the receiver. Position The falcons 1191 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 6: are taking a Receiver zachariah Branch oh gross so he 1192 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 6: stays in The state Of. Georgia speed Guy Slot merchant. 1193 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 6: Merchant according to some screen, MERCHANT i should say that, 1194 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 6: slot but, uh you know he this is somebody who has. 1195 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 6: Pedigree he was a top, ten you, know recruit in the. 1196 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:47,320 Speaker 5: Class he's very, fast he's got a very very high. 1197 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 5: Ceiling you, know if he can develop a route, tree 1198 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 5: that'd be, great but he's never probably gonna be good 1199 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 5: in contested. Situations he's going to be like a reverse 1200 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 5: back a screen, merchant like you, said like design scheme 1201 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 5: touches type of a guy like. 1202 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 6: There there is room for, targets there's there's there are 1203 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 6: open targets in this offense Behind Drake, London Kyle pitts 1204 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 6: and then whatever. 1205 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 5: Is going to show most of those short routes like, that, 1206 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 5: THOUGH i JUST i don't really like this. Pick you 1207 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 5: could have Taken, brassel you could have Taken, bell you 1208 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 5: could have some guy with some, Yeah Teddy, hurst LIKE i, 1209 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 5: THINK i. 1210 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,839 Speaker 6: Think a deep threat is a good, move and you 1211 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 6: see the speed and you think deep, threat but that's 1212 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 6: not really the way brand is. 1213 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 8: Used so this archetype just so rarely pants out for. 1214 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 8: FANTASY i, mean the the upside Is Josh, downs that's 1215 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 8: the upside And Josh downs is not an impactful fantasy, player. 1216 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,919 Speaker 2: Right, Man, well let's get some fantasy guys. 1217 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: Here. 1218 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 6: COME i was gonna, Say i'm you, KNOW i WISH 1219 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 6: i could sound more. EXCITED i GUESS i. Was you 1220 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 6: know HOW i feel about. It but there's just not 1221 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 6: a lot that we've been really excited. About where do 1222 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 6: you think with this landing spot? Fits where Does branch 1223 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 6: sound like the right spot for? You in rookie? Drafts you, 1224 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 6: know he was sometimes like a late second round pick 1225 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 6: for us in THE. 1226 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 8: MOX i think he's still gonna be late, seconds late. Second, 1227 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 8: Yeah i'm not gonna push just because he's in the 1228 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 8: early third. Round like if If brazzle And hurst And 1229 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 8: Chris bell And Elijah surratt work their way into this, 1230 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 8: Round i'm still gonna have all those GUYS i had 1231 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 8: of Zach Rya. Branch, Probably. 1232 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 6: Oh, man The ravens take a receiver and it's none 1233 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 6: of those. GUYS i Liked Jakobe, lane but that wouldn't 1234 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 6: have been my pick. 1235 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 8: Here big big ball. Winner, yeah perimeter, guy red zone. 1236 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 6: GUY i like him not only as a player but 1237 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 6: as a fit for what The ravens receiving room. Needed but, 1238 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 6: again there were other RECEIVERS i like, better AND i 1239 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 6: feel like this doesn't feel like filling the the need 1240 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 6: with the best player at that position or TAKING. Dpa 1241 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 6: this feels like neither to. 1242 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 5: Me So i'm not you, know, YEAH i, mean like you, 1243 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 5: SAID i do like the fit In. 1244 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 2: Baltimore they needed a size. 1245 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 5: Guy he can be an En zoe, target you know 1246 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 5: him And andrews can be those guys who when it's 1247 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 5: Not Derrick henry Or lamar down at the goal. 1248 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 8: Line. 1249 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 2: Uh but, yeah just in terms of. 1250 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 5: Fantasy probably not our favorite fit for our run first 1251 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 5: team to take a wide out that is probably there 1252 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 5: to block a. Lot so uh, yeah not not the 1253 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 5: not the greatest fantasy, asset but not bad for Your. 1254 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 6: RAVENS i, MEAN I i'm not gonna say it's a 1255 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 6: bad pick because nobody really knows anything but ninety nine 1256 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 6: catches in college over three. Years but LIKE, I i 1257 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 6: not seeking for, fantasy but speaking as A ravens, FAN 1258 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 6: i would have definitely preferred one of the bell, well 1259 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 6: at Least Chris. BELLELE i was gonna Say, BRASSEL i 1260 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 6: would PREFER i would have Preferred sarat. There there are 1261 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 6: other receivers that and AND i didn't feel, LIKE i, 1262 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 6: mean did you guys Expect lane to go in round? 1263 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 6: THREE i kind of THOUGHT. 1264 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 2: I, did not. 1265 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 5: Dare, YEAH i thought it'd be like a border around 1266 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,959 Speaker 5: borderline fourth fifth. 1267 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 6: Pick that's exactly WHAT i, thought, too like between the 1268 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 6: fourth and. 1269 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 8: Fifth but then, again all, right so six almost six 1270 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 8: four and a half two hundred pounds four four sevens 1271 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 8: being had a forty inch vertical. 1272 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 5: Jump his his mock draft database final like number was 1273 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 5: one oh, nine so that had been early. Tomorrow so 1274 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 5: maybe like a round reach based on public, perception but 1275 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 5: not not like. 1276 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 6: This pushes him up for fantasy at, all like just 1277 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 6: getting kind of. CAPITAL i, MEAN i like you, said 1278 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 6: run first. 1279 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 5: Offense but it depends on where the rest of these 1280 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 5: guys go and how deep they go in the. Draft 1281 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 5: If Jacobe lane's a third, pick like a mid tier third, 1282 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 5: pick and you, know Uh sarrat And skyler bellend up 1283 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 5: in the sixth and that's a massive difference in draft. 1284 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 5: Capital so, uh it's it's. 1285 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 2: It has to boost him up a little. 1286 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 8: Bit all, Right do we get a running back here With, 1287 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 8: carolina because you, know you Think brasil Is, carol. 1288 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: It is it Is. 1289 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 2: Brasil, yeah that's. Good that's a good. 1290 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 6: Pick that's starting to turn into a fun little receiving. 1291 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 6: Room it is not it's. Little is not the, right 1292 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,919 Speaker 6: that's the. RIGHT i think of little With. Carolina THAT'S i, 1293 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 6: KNOW i was trying to describe the. Receivers, yeah that's 1294 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 6: a fun. 1295 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 5: Room that Is that is a good room because now 1296 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 5: you have uh, Youah, tet you Have brasel and then 1297 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 5: you Have lagett uh And coker to share that slot. 1298 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 5: Role just need a tight end now so and Maybe 1299 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 5: sanders can open up this, year you never. 1300 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 8: Know, yeah that is a good spot for. Brasl does 1301 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 8: that spell the end For Xavier? 1302 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 5: LEGAT i don't know if it spells the absolute, end 1303 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 5: BUT i mean he's definitely third in the receiving pecking order, 1304 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 5: now BUT I tet and and yeah And. Coker, yeah 1305 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 5: it might be Behind coker And, cuba so it. Could, 1306 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 5: yeah he's fourth in a non elite passing. Offense that 1307 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 5: zero percent interest for. 1308 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 8: Me, yeah that's that's a Rough uh what. 1309 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 6: Do you what do you think About brasil now as 1310 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 6: in terms of rookie draft value at this landing. 1311 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 5: Spot it's a great, QUESTION i, think do you Want 1312 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 5: do you Want Antonio williams or do you Want? 1313 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 2: BRAZIL FITZI i THINK i Want. BRAZIL i THINK i 1314 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 2: THINK i Want. 1315 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 8: WILLIAMS i THINK i Want williams BECAUSE i think there's 1316 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 8: gonna be more catch volume and you know we're playing. 1317 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 6: A better quarterback and a clearer path to at least 1318 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 6: top two. Targets, yeah in the, offense. 1319 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 8: Yeah Jadeen daniels Versus Bryce. 1320 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 5: Young but then but you definitely you Want brasl or 1321 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 5: you Want Jeremy, bernard. 1322 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 8: Maybe. 1323 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 5: BRASEL i THINK i think i'd Want. Brazl, yeah so 1324 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 5: that would for. ME i Had Antonio williams at. THIRTEEN 1325 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 5: i think you guys are. RIGHT i think you guys 1326 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 5: talked me into. IT i think it's Still Antonio williams 1327 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 5: and Then bernard at. 1328 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 2: Fifteen just of the guys that have been, drafted. 1329 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 8: B's gonna Have Drew aller throwing him. Bogs, SO, m. 1330 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 2: What's the knife? Fits don't? You i'll tell you what if? 1331 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 8: This you might have been massaituating From Jake seey for 1332 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 8: you On. Twitter by the, Way oh, really we we 1333 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 8: gave it To jake for. Drafting where did he Take 1334 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 8: aller and our our mock draft like in the third, 1335 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:40,919 Speaker 8: round and we were all over. 1336 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 2: Him, YEAH i see. 1337 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 8: It you got some payback come in your, Way Bogs God. 1338 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 5: Uh, yeah Fits Fits bogman openly wept on our live 1339 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 5: stream After jake tagged, Me oh, MY i was definitely 1340 01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 5: a cry. 1341 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 6: Baby tampa's on the clock pick eighty. Four let me 1342 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 6: take a moment to remind everybody that we have a 1343 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 6: day three Stream, saturday that's tomorrow at seven Pm, eastern 1344 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 6: Where Fitz bogman and myself will break down the whole 1345 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 6: draft from A dynasty perspective and take your. Questions then 1346 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 6: next week we've got full draft, BREAKDOWNS q And A's 1347 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 6: dynasty content and. More make sure you subscribed and locked 1348 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 6: in to catch it. All will be a very busy 1349 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 6: week for. Us we have the Stream saturday and then 1350 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 6: three different days worth of taping shows with the three of, 1351 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 6: us so it'll be a lot Of Fitz bogman And. 1352 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Worm i'm gonna hate each other by the end of. 1353 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 6: It, yeah we'll already kind OF i already kind of 1354 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 6: do With this draft takes place In. 1355 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 8: Pittsburgh i'm Gonna i'm gonna hate trying to put together 1356 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 8: draft rankings for, this because this is like just talking 1357 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 8: about who's like at the top of our second. Round 1358 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 8: the top of the second round last year was Like 1359 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 8: Tyler warren And Cam, scataboo and this is like talking. 1360 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 6: About who's at the bottom of the first. Round is 1361 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 6: gonna be? ROUGH i mean after the top ten, PICKS 1362 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 6: i don't know what you. Do Ted, hurst by the, 1363 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 6: way does go here to The bucks with? 1364 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 5: Four not my favorite, fit right because they already Have, 1365 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 5: godwin they already have LIKE, buca they Drafted jalen McMillan 1366 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 5: and now Ted, hurst so not my favorite, fit BUT 1367 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 5: i like at least that he went in the. 1368 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 8: THIRD i guess a vertical guy sort of makes sense 1369 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 8: though for The Buccaneers brasle Or Hurst, HURST. 1370 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 2: I Think i'm gonna Take. 1371 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 6: BRASL i THINK i go brasel. TO i don't know 1372 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 6: what to make A Bryce young long, term which makes it, 1373 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 6: hard it's, true BUT i THINK i THINK i slightly 1374 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 6: Lean brasl right. 1375 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 5: Now, Yeah it's just THAT i think there's there is 1376 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 5: like a clearer path For brassel to be on the 1377 01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 5: field more. 1378 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 8: Quickly SO i can't believe The Miami dolphins Took Caleb 1379 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 8: douglas of all these wide. Receivers what on? Earth, YEAH 1380 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 8: i mean it is the fact that they took him so, 1381 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 8: High like would that compel you, guys because, like Did 1382 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 8: Caleb douglas go in any of our mock? Drafts, no 1383 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 8: not a. 1384 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 6: WHAT i don't think we said his name a single. 1385 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 8: TIME i, mean do we do we have to move 1386 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 8: him into the third round because of? 1387 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 6: THIS i probably. 1388 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 5: WON'T i had him twenty six among wide. Receivers, yeah 1389 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 5: that's about WHERE i have. HIM i mean it's IT'S i, 1390 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 5: yess he got The day two. 1391 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 6: Capital but it's not like he's stepping into some super 1392 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 6: strong passing game where it's, like, well the situation's so, 1393 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 6: good we have to bump him up even if we 1394 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 6: don't like the. Player, like the situation's not great outside 1395 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 6: there being a whole lot of, opportunity but it's not 1396 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 6: gonna you, know we don't expect this to be a 1397 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 6: prolific passing. Game, yeah tight end here For miami will Cass. 1398 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 8: Merrick, uh but one of the better blocking tight ends 1399 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 8: in the. Class. 1400 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 5: YEAH i, MEAN i guess if you're going to hand 1401 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 5: the ball to eight fifty times a, game you need 1402 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 5: to be able to block for. 1403 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: Him. 1404 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 8: YEAH i mean the brain trust is coming from the 1405 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 8: A packer organization that Had Marcedes lewis on the roster 1406 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 8: for a long. Time you, know. 1407 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 5: They just need they need offensive, line they need head, 1408 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 5: thrushers they need interior defensive, linemen and there's guys. LEFT 1409 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 5: i think you need that more than you need the 1410 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,040 Speaker 5: blocking tight. End AND i think you know you can 1411 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,920 Speaker 5: wait on these. Guys i'm surprised that we've Seen boriker 1412 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 5: and all these other you, know tight end or. 1413 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 6: SOMETHING i know it has been a lot of picks 1414 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 6: where my reaction ISN'T i hate the, player it's did 1415 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 6: they need to take him? There Marlon, Klein that's that's 1416 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 6: been A. Yeah another receiver not Named bell Or surat 1417 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,040 Speaker 6: X Avion thomas. 1418 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 2: At definitely did not Rank Davian. THOMAS i can tell 1419 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 2: you to. 1420 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 6: The, bears wow with this, BEFORE i, mean you say 1421 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 6: you didn't rank. Him, vogman is this more or less 1422 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 6: surprising to you than like The tesla pick from last? 1423 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 5: Year this is the most surprising pick of this. DRAFT 1424 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 5: i think this is more surprising Than, borker, like at 1425 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 5: least if you're looking for a blocking tight, end he's the, best, 1426 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 5: right what are you looking? 1427 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 2: For Was Zavian? Thomas, Well i'm. 1428 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 8: NOT i, mean does he play a special TEAM. 1429 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 6: I was gonna say he has three career return touchdowns 1430 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 6: to kick turning gadget role. 1431 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 8: Player he does have four to two eight speed for 1432 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 8: too eight Freshman All america punt. Returner, YEAH i mean 1433 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,920 Speaker 8: he's a he's a kick, Returner ALL sec kick returner 1434 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 8: in twenty twenty. Four he's a he's a kick. Returner 1435 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,440 Speaker 8: he was a third rounder on a kick. 1436 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,439 Speaker 5: RETURN i, mean they have a proud history of kick, 1437 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,120 Speaker 5: returners but kick returners kind of you, know going out 1438 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:56,440 Speaker 5: of the, game, right. 1439 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 6: Feel feels like a bit of a heat check from 1440 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 6: The bears coming off a really exciting. Season, Yeah bell 1441 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 6: is still on the, board, gentlemen and we're taking a kick. 1442 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 2: Returner what are we? Doing this? Is this is insane to. 1443 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 5: Me this is still the third, Round like you can 1444 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 5: make these picks in the fourth and fifth even in this. 1445 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 8: Class, well, look this is the franchise that Had Devin. Hester, 1446 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 8: yeah And Xavian thomas is a distant relative Of Walter. Peyton, 1447 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,600 Speaker 8: okay all, Right Walter. Peyton SO i can't understand the. 1448 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 8: Third he is a franchise pick for The. Bears here 1449 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:33,639 Speaker 8: they could have made. 1450 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 5: Even in THE, nfl And Kaylin black goes ahead of 1451 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 5: all the other running. 1452 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 2: Backs what are we? Doing? 1453 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 6: Well this is the forty. Nine they have a. 1454 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:49,120 Speaker 8: HISTORY a guy who Was Kaylan black was not even 1455 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 8: invited to the. 1456 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 5: Combine go over all of Those day Two niners picks 1457 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 5: that you just, mentioned For god's, sake and just just penn, in. 1458 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 6: Is There eddie Chance Cavin black doesn't end up on that. 1459 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,559 Speaker 6: List we're doing a stream two years from now talking 1460 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 6: About day two picks for The. Niners he's gonna be 1461 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 6: on that, list? Right what is? 1462 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 2: Happening? 1463 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,600 Speaker 8: Guy Klin black is the third running back off the, 1464 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 8: board and he was not invited to the combine this 1465 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 8: year ahead of and he didn't. Start he didn't start 1466 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 8: college team. 1467 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 2: At any. 1468 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,600 Speaker 5: Point, Here i'm gonna wake up and it's going to 1469 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 5: Be day two in THE Nfl, draft and it's not 1470 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:30,639 Speaker 5: going to. Be The steelers Took Drew aler And xavi 1471 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 5: And thomas goes ahead of Uh Chris. 1472 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 6: Bell The ravens didn't pass On Chris bell to Take Jacobe, lane, 1473 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 6: who according To Matt, harmon has the worst separation against 1474 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 6: man coverage of any receiver the last three, years not this, 1475 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:50,600 Speaker 6: year the last three, years by the, uh the at 1476 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 6: least the guy that you hated when they Picked bagman 1477 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 6: isn't going to be on the. Field, uh my guy 1478 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 6: is going to be on the field and not contributing 1479 01:09:59,560 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 6: the WAY i. 1480 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 2: Want, oh here we, Go here we. 1481 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Go, yeah The. 1482 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,640 Speaker 2: Dolphins that's a good. Pick there we. 1483 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 6: Go, yeah that feels like one of THE i mean 1484 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,640 Speaker 6: to answer your question that you just asked, fits that 1485 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:11,719 Speaker 6: feels like one of my favorite. 1486 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:16,200 Speaker 8: Picks he's, raw, though like he's he is not a 1487 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 8: good route runner right, now but. 1488 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 6: He's he's really, athletic and he has an. OPPORTUNITY i, 1489 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 6: mean they hell nobody else how much they need pass. 1490 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 6: Catchers he's he. 1491 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 5: Is immediately your number one or number two pass catcher 1492 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 5: behind a Chan so. 1493 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 8: Immediately he can't run right, NOW i, think, yeah but 1494 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 8: he's he he by the, way he was running a 1495 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 8: couple of days. 1496 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 5: Ago you saw him on the. Treadmill SO i think 1497 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 5: he's gonna be fine for. Camp SO i don't know 1498 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 5: if he's going to be one hundred percent and guaranteed 1499 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 5: For week, one but he'll be. Close he'll be, like 1500 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 5: maybe maybe a pup. Stint but what what are The 1501 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 5: dolphins care about a pup stint this? Year, Right they're 1502 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 5: gonna float down to the bottom and try to Get 1503 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 5: arch or Or dante more. Somebody they're they're looking for 1504 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 5: their quarter or, uh they're they're looking FOR i guess 1505 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 5: it'd Be Jeremiah smith next. Year so, whoever this is 1506 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 5: because they sign a, leak so they're gonna sink to 1507 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 5: the bottom and get a high pick next. Year they're 1508 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 5: they're not interested in competing in twenty twenty six, anyway 1509 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 5: so might as well Take. BELL i would have taken 1510 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 5: him where they Took Caleb. DOUGLAS i think if you 1511 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:26,599 Speaker 5: switch these, picks they make way more. Sense but they're. 1512 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 5: NOT i Guess bell's medicals were just not very. Good 1513 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 5: so they got their. Quarterback, Bogs they're not going to Take, 1514 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 5: Arch they're going to Take. 1515 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 2: Smith that's WHAT i just. Say, yeah they're gonna Take. 1516 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 6: Smith, so, Uh patriots on the clock here they take 1517 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 6: a tight. End another one continues to are On Eli. 1518 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 8: Reridan what do you think about, Him? BOGS i mean 1519 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 8: he is at LEAST i MEAN i like him more 1520 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,559 Speaker 8: than the guys who were taken, earlier. 1521 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,640 Speaker 5: And he's more than a, blocker, yeah you, know probably 1522 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 5: like but probably Like Tommy tremble type. 1523 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 2: Production you. 1524 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 5: Know, yeah it's a nice landing spot because it's only 1525 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 5: old Man Hunter henry and like nobody else. 1526 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 6: There henry's thirty, One, yeah old so he's in his. Thirties, 1527 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 6: yeah old Man. 1528 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 5: Henry that's that's a lot of mileage on On Hunter 1529 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 5: henry because he WAS i, mean he was a big 1530 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,760 Speaker 5: target For, arkansas you. Know so he's got a lot 1531 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 5: of mileage on. Him and then It's Julian hill who they, 1532 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 5: sign And Jack westover is kind of a. Tweeter So 1533 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 5: raredan's a good pick for, them just not very not 1534 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,840 Speaker 5: very fantasy friendly in my. 1535 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 8: Opinion so, yeah four six two, speed. 1536 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,799 Speaker 2: He could get, there but he's he's a he's a project. 1537 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 2: Pick SO i, think do you think do you think 1538 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,719 Speaker 2: he can contribute right? Away? Fitsy you think he's about? 1539 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 8: NO i, mean, like, yeah he. Is he is probably a. 1540 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 8: Project there's no way he's going to get on the 1541 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:57,640 Speaker 8: field unless something happens that. 1542 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,560 Speaker 1: Well that puts a rap on day, Too but the 1543 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 1: draft weekend is far from. Over we've seen some massive 1544 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 1: shifts in the rookie rankings, tonight and we're gonna help 1545 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,760 Speaker 1: you make some more sense of it. All make sure 1546 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 1: you join us on our Special day three. Show we'll 1547 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 1: be live on The Fantasy Pros dynasty YouTube channel at 1548 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,759 Speaker 1: seven Pm Eastern time This. Saturday we're going to recap 1549 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 1: the entire, draft talk winners. 1550 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 2: And, losers and get you ready for your rookie. 1551 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 1: Drafts for everyone here At Fantasy, Pros I'm Seth wilcock 1552 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,479 Speaker 1: and we'll see You saturday. Night thanks for listening to 1553 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,479 Speaker 1: The Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football. 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