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So should I call you Lee Thomas? 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.280 If you had ever met my mother, you would call 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.759 me Lee Thomas without realizing it because she always does. Oh, 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:35.440 I have to see. When I would google Lee Miller, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.399 it was always like ancient Civil War heroes or some 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.360 guy that was in three episodes of Jurassic Park the cartoon. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:47.400 You know it's some famous British photographer. Lady too. I 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.760 want to play a few just before we get started 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.280 so we can have an idea. Here are some of 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.120 the songs and we'll get to them during the conversation 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.920 that Lee has written do you know before I say, 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.960 do you know any number one? You've written? Seven? Okay? 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.560 Is that true? Mike? Is that the fact check? Seven? Alright? Seven? Okay? 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.080 So for example, it's gonna be fact checking. Oh yeaeah, Yeah, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.280 we have lots of fact checks, like a couple of gears, 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.760 Juice in Color by Jamie Johnson, Mother, you should have 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:22.480 seen it in color, Southern Girl, Timo Graan, Sweet than 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:30.119 to Blue Honey, a little bit crazy like Newly Lifts 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:35.480 Blue and Day Jon Sunday, You're gonna miss this, You're 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:43.280 gonna missing You're gonna want this fact, You're gonna days 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.639 had so Fat just a few of the songs that 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:53.359 Lee has written. Also The World by Got Brad Paisleys 0:02:53.480 --> 0:03:07.840 to Perfect Storm, She It's joys Me and and I'm 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:15.000 still a guy but then I'm still alright. So you 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.200 have quite the library of songs there. I like to 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.560 start by letting people know the big picture first. So 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.240 when you first came to Nashville, you came to Nashville, 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:29.120 true or Falster because your goal was to play in Alabama. No. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.160 I tell this story and they always retail it wrong. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.200 I always say I wanted to be in whatever the 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.320 next Alabama type thing was, because they were my heroes. 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.200 What was the Alabama TI thinking made a band? The 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.200 band and you know they were cool and there was 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.320 a guy on the end that played a bunch of instruments. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.720 I wanted to be the guy in the modern version 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.800 of Alabama, whatever it was that had all the instruments 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.400 set up and played a little bit of this and 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.360 played a little bit of that, and that was that 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.200 was the goal. So your goal is never to be 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.400 the front man of the even the new Alabama, you 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.040 want to be the utility player. I always want to 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.400 be the utility player. But I wanted to be in 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:12.440 in a you know, in in a traveling signed band 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.440 like the Eagles or something like that. Whatever. But what 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.400 you know, whatever it was, I mean in the eighties, 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.280 the early eighties, you know, I'm I'm just Alabama made 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.160 me want to be in the business. And so that's 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.840 why the Alabama reference keeps pop up. Okay, so you 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:28.839 did not want to be in Alabama, but you wanted 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.120 to be in something like Alabama. Exactly did you try? 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:33.960 Did you have a band like Alabama? I mean, did 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.159 you have a band called? From high school? High school? 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.720 From the time I was in middle school, there was 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:44.000 some incarnation of dudes that could or couldn't play in 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.640 my parents living room, trying to learn how to be 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.599 So you moved to Nashville wanting to be the person 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.920 on stage? Were you not good enough? Well, you know, 0:04:55.279 --> 0:05:00.680 back home in Kentucky, I was pretty good, you know. 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.760 And you grow up in these these bars and and 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.440 especially when you're young, and you can kind of play 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.040 different instruments. People say, oh, you're fantastic, and I'm like, yeah, 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.119 I'm fantastic. But you know, I think in high school, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.160 I mean, my first visits in Nashville and uh, and 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.280 Nashville was a lot different than there weren't near as 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.560 many hockey talks as there are now. But there would 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.320 be kind of local clubs where, you know, the people 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.320 that have moved to town trying to trying to get 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.280 heard would go play. And I remember I would go 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.400 and I would At the time, you know, I went 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.560 on to music school. I was classically trained, but through 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.440 these years while I'm trying to figure out how to 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:36.720 be a better musician, I would come here and I 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.080 would go in these clubs and I would sit there 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.120 and I would listen to these guys that weren't working, 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.880 they were trying to get gigs, and I would sit 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:48.400 there and go. You know, they were so good. They 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.360 were so freakishly good on every instrument, whatever it was, 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.440 whatever they said and it did. It was just like, 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:59.680 h and and this guy is unemployed here back where 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.479 I'm um, this guy would be you know, the a legend, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.479 you know, um. But so you know, I didn't come 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.800 here with any you know, false hopes. I knew, I 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.880 knew what I was getting myself into. So you moved 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.560 to town and you get into kind of a band 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.360 playing fiddle and they fired you, Is that true? Well? 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.479 So I look at whatever I played at the time, 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.159 and I said, okay, certainly guitar players or adama dozen't 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.000 in this town. And at that point, piano was my 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.440 first instrument. But I really felt like, as far as 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.919 you know, I probably wasn't ever going to be up 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.600 to par with these guys. So I said, okay, I'll 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.760 be a fuddle player. So that became my all my 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.400 focus and uh, and so I moved here, and I 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:47.799 moved around June one, and two weeks later, I've already 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.960 met somebody that got me an audition for Tom Tehall, 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.520 and so I walked into the audition. Um, Tom wasn't there. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.280 It was a band leader and auditioned for Tom Tehall, 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.640 and the guy hired me, and uh, there were two 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.039 fiddle players, and so I get the job. Blame one. 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.600 He asked me to come back and run through the 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.280 whole set with the second guy, and so I went 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.080 back and the other guy have been there for a while, 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.480 So I in my second audition. I'm now playing all 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:20.200 of the music with the second to chair and okay, good, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.720 your good, your heart. We leave Saturday. So July three, 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:25.840 I get on the bus as Tom ty hospital player 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:30.760 and we did two dates and on July fifth, he 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:36.280 fired me. So why did he fire you? What did 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.400 they say to you? Because that's it. He didn't give 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.320 you a chance. Like well, so so we get on 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.720 the bus and we drived a Homestead, Florida. Well, i've 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.120 never been on the bus, you know, something twenty one, 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.640 I guess, and might get on the bus and it's 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.400 like season musicians. Tom's not there. And Tom was from 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.440 about seventy miles in Kentucky for a where I'm from. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.000 So I'm thinking, first of all, I've got the Kentucky 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.240 thing in my back pocket. I'm gonna will him. He's 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:02.600 gonna love me, you know. So we get on the 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.160 bus to go to Florida and there's no Tom. It's 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.360 just the band. And so I meet the band and well, 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.480 these guys were seasoned road guys and they really weren't 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.920 all into the new guy, right, So I didn't really 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.440 have a friend. And so we drive to the other 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.960 side of the world and we get there and there's 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:19.920 no tim. We do sound check and there's no time, 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.360 and when I come back, Tom has arrived. And so 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.800 I introduced myself to Tom. Well, Tom's kind of Tom 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.360 isn't a real people person. Tom isn't a chatter and 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.360 I told him I was. I told him where I 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.040 was from, and he just kind of looked through me, 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:40.120 said nothing, and that was that. And okay, So now 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.960 I'm nervous. And so the band leader started getting anxious 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.000 because he realized he had hired me. Nobody else had 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.719 heard me. What if I mess up? And the Tom 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.800 to hollagig was pretty fiddle heavy, and so he starts saying, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.160 hey man, it's kind of my gig here, you know 0:08:56.640 --> 0:09:02.000 my butt. Don't don't mess this up. Okay, okay. So 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.640 this went on kind of for six hours. We do 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.880 the first gig and I rushed over to him and 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.240 I'm like, howd to do? And he says, I monitors 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.680 weren't very good. I couldn't hear you. I'll just listen 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:16.199 to Morrow. So we go from there to North Carolina 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.520 and and he just wanted to my man. He says, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.360 I just you know, you gotta do that man. He 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.160 could be great man, you gotta be and he just 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:26.840 got in my head and we get ready to kick 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:32.120 off the show and I'm trembly and I'm nervous. Ladies, gentlemen, 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:36.160 Tompty Hall and the worst fiddle player in America shows up. 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.440 I mean I absolutely and in of fact this thing. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.400 The guy that was playing with me is going, what's wrong? 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.920 And I'm like, shut up, you know? And uh, and 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.240 it just it was like a can't fight and it 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.680 just kept getting worse, and I'm I'm like a little 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.240 anxiety attack, a little panic attack. And the more I played, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.439 the worst I got. Was it? They didn't see enough 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.000 in you though to try again? Fired me? Fired me. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.120 I mean, I had some people come worry for me 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:02.840 that I'm like, you know what, You're not that good now, 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.280 but I see a lot in you did a lot 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.319 of potential. Fired me. And it was about five or 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.120 six years ago before I ever saw Tom T. Hall again. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.560 And we were at some function and I went up 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.640 to him and I said, Mr Hall, I'm Lee Miller. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.319 I played fiddle for you for three days in nine 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:24.920 and you fired me. And he says, what happened? And 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.199 I said, I wasn't ready, and he was kind of like, 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.120 he was kind of like, are you are you mad 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:31.240 at me? And I'm like, no, no, No, was the 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.240 greatest thing that ever happened to change my path. Can 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:37.000 I have a picture? So that's where that was my 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.600 welcome to Nashville kid. So your path has changed because 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:46.720 your confidence is broken. You're now the broken stallion. Sure, 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.400 and so do you put it in your head? Okay, 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:50.880 I'm just gonna write I'm staying in town, but I'm 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.120 gonna write no, no. I I beared down. I was like, 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.839 let's let's let's get on with it. So you know, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:01.360 I'm the guy that rehearsed or practiced fifteen hours a day. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.120 I mean I just I played and practiced and practiced 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:08.000 and took lessons and practiced and did more auditions and 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.880 you know, did local gigs, road gigs with touring bands 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.480 and did whatever. He you stayed on the road and 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.959 played instruments, not with anybody you would know, just with 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.960 bar bands but whoever. I mean, I had to pay bills, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.559 so so I would do And again I was the 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.559 utility guys, so I would I would play everything, you know, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.439 and I had tons of gear and I would do whatever. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.120 And somebody heard me and put me with a a 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.520 producer was had this duo and made it a trio 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.360 and they wanted to try to get a record deal 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:38.440 and that was Sugarland, and well it wasn't no they 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.679 it never got to Sugarland level. But what it is, 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.400 we started writing songs every day, and uh, and writing 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.480 the project and then auditioning for labels and all that 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.120 kind of stuff, and and uh, they got me writing 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.120 a music row and I met more people. And music 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.960 in the nineties was huge. Music row was amazing. There 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.520 was so many record companies and so many records being made, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.880 and so many publishers and right, you know, signing lots 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.760 of writers and and the key was I started writing 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.760 with music road guys and people were giving me a chance. 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:14.240 And in ninety six, guy named Jeff Carlton ran this 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:20.000 big independent company and uh, buddy mind, it got me 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.200 in there righting with some of their guys and he said, 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.200 he said, I don't think I don't think you can 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:27.920 do any of this other stuff he's about. I think 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.800 you could be a full time songwriter. That's okay done, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.880 And he signed me. So he signed to be a 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.560 full time song writer. How long from that day until 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:42.720 you got your first cut? Um, the first cut was probably, 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.160 I don't know, within a couple of years. I mean 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.840 that this company was really great. The people that were 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:55.360 mentoring me were really great, and we we the whole 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.320 key was, first of all, I have to be riding 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.520 in the ballpark of what's working. You know, this is 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.240 what's legitimately commercial music. Then you gotta have somebody that 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.320 can legitimately get it listened to. And that's where they 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.160 came in, and they could so so you would get 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:15.000 good listens immediately. And you know, there were several cuts 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:16.679 that came pretty quick. It took a while to have 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.800 a hit, but uh, you know, you gotta have the 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.959 cut before you can have a hit. First hit was 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.680 first bona fide hit was The Impossible with Joe Nichols 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:35.160 Unsinkable Ship, Unbreakable, Watch Break Sometimes the thing thing never 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:40.360 happened happened, just like that unbendable steep. So you write 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.800 the song, who'd you write it? With? Kelly Lovelace? So 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.560 you guys, right, this is this one of those where 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.040 they say, oh, you knew the magic was there as 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.760 soon as he wrote the song, so Kelly Lovelace. It 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.000 was a blind date. I didn't know him, he didn't 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.280 know me. Publishers put us in the room together and uh, 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.640 we wrote this song. And I did demo on the 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.719 song and turned it in, which you sing it, and 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.920 that the dem no no I heard. I heard. I 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:11.319 got to sing it, and uh, we turn it in 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:18.000 and everybody just kind of said us nice. And I 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.640 don't know how much it was pitched. It wasn't pitched much. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.720 And so I'd even gone to R. C A because 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:23.680 I had a friend that was an A and R 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.080 and I took it to him. And the only person 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:26.760 I ever knew that loved it was this an Arga 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.160 and he he held it in for a few weeks 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.000 and played it for people at the label. And then 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.240 when day he called me and said, uh, I've played 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.200 it for everybody here, everybody we have on the roster, 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.440 everyone's past. So I'm gonna have to let it go. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:47.000 And this song was never mentioned for maybe eight or 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.200 nine more months, so it is disappears and a song 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.200 in purgatory. Well, you know, here's the thing. There's everyone's 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.080 excited about the new songs, so they love it and 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.720 they go, you pitched everybody that's looking today, And in 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:02.520 a couple of weeks it's a new batch of songs, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.360 and the publishers are pitching those songs, and uh, it 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.040 just kind of got buried. And I mean, honestly, I 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.000 don't think that the publishers were not excited about it, 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.720 so that how do they get refound and reused again. Well, 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:19.320 this one got lucky because Kelly's publisher was a big 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:24.200 publisher at the time. And uh, people, this this song 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:25.480 is meant a lot to a lot of people. And 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.120 people will say this must have been undeniable, and I say, oh, 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:32.000 are you kidding me? It was quite deniable. Um. It 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.160 was kind of over in this b drawer at their 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:41.800 publishing company. Um to the point that there was a 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.960 guy named Brent Rowan that was cutting sides on this 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.400 young guy who had already lost one record deal named 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:53.240 Joe Nichols, and he asked somebody at E M I 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.720 for some songs just so they could maybe do some demos. 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.400 And this is one of the songs that they let 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.040 him have, just to cut side IDs on somebody that 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.040 had already lost one record deal. This was way down 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.960 the food chain, right and so they went and did 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.600 a real low budget uh demo and then called hess. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.440 They really liked the song and uh and I'm like, oh, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.000 who is it? And so they tell me and it 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:19.240 was so far removed from, you know, actually even a 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:24.160 record deal. I'm like, okay, well thanks, and then they said, okay, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.040 we think there's gonna be a new record label. The 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.240 guy that that had made Arista Records famous and signed 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.880 tons of people's tempted boys, responsible for all these major acts, 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.400 is doing. We think is going to have a new 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.200 record label with Tony Brown, who's one of the biggest 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.600 producers in Nashville history. They're going to be partners. We 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:45.360 think they're going to have a label, and if they do, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.480 we think they're gonna sign Joe Nichols. And we think 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.200 they like your song. A lot of things to have 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.720 to fall. No, you don't even you don't even you know, 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.840 as somebody said, you know, it's it's a single for 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.640 an artist that hasn't been signed to a record label 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.760 that does it exists, So so no, we thought nothing 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:08.480 about this. And then honestly it comes out and you're like, okay, well, 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.600 right before it comes out, Mark Chestnut cuts it and 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.439 he was on Sony and it was still Mark Chestnut, 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.639 you know. And I'm like, whoa this is? This is 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.680 a big cut. And my publisher said, well, we promised 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.960 it to Joe Nichols. And I said, Joe Nichols didn't 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.399 even have a record deal. And it's what's a relationship 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.879 town and and and and Tim Dubois, who's one of 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.359 all of our heroes. He had actually come to a 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.480 publisher and said, you can't take this song away from me. 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.359 You promised it to me. And and I'm sitting there 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.480 going you all have all lost your mind. I said, 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.520 we don't even know if this this guy has a 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.399 record deal, you know. And they said, well we we're 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.040 gonna have to honor it. So then okay, and so 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.000 we just waited to see, okay, well the word came 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.080 there is a record label, there is a record deal. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.280 He actually they're going to try to put this out 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.320 and uh and and there was it was that day 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:57.800 that I'm like, you know what, I don't know anything 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.119 about the music business. And and I remember I had 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.720 a song on a black Hawk that I really loved 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.000 called Days of America. I need it gone to thirty three? 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.880 How do you have that queue up there that good. 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.600 Don't worry about what we gotta here. That's unbelieving. So 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.399 as you were saying black Hawk Days of America and 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.800 and we were so pumped because this was kind of 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.159 my tribute to nine eleven. That's what we that's what 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.879 we wrote after nine eleven. And I love this record. 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.560 And remember they did it at halftime of the Titans 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.960 Steelers game in Pittsburgh and uh, and I'd actually gone 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.640 up there to see this happened. It was a big deal. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.560 And then it stopped at thirty three and I'm like, 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.800 it was disappointing, but it was the biggest record I've 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.719 ever had, and so impossible comes out and as always 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.119 new artists, you know, they climbed slow. And uh. I 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.320 was sitting in my office and my publisher opened the door. 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.680 Um and like every Monday, you kind of know what 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.440 the charts have done for the week. You kind of 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.280 get through the weekend. The Monday morning they say this 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.800 is the official New charts and I'll never get She 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.680 opened the door and she says, you went to nineteen 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.080 and that was the first time that I went that's 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.800 a hit because of the top I don't I guess 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:20.080 there was no rule. Just to me, I was like, oh, nineteen, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.440 you know, and uh, and it kept climbing and it 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:27.080 kept climbing, and it was at five and uh it 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:33.960 was the anniversary of nine eleven, whatever anniversary that was, 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:35.480 whatever the year it was, nine eleven. It was like 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:41.320 one or two two two, I guess, um, and we 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:43.720 probably were out of juice. We weren't going to make 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.000 it to number one, but we've gone to five. And 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:50.720 on the anniversary of nine eleven, his radio does um, 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:56.760 they're playing things that are appropriate for the emotion for 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:00.640 nine eleven. And the song that was willing to keep 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.560 us out was ten more Rounds of Jose Quervo, which 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.679 is the opposite of what radio it was teed up 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:11.320 to go number one, and we jumped from five to 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.760 one because we got enough emotional spins because of the 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.720 day to put us over the thing. Now, in all fairness, 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.399 ten Rounds Quervo went number one the next week. We 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.920 didn't keep them out, but it allowed us to get 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:30.399 number one, a non science artist on a label that 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:37.000 didn't exist. It wasn't even gonna be number one. There 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.320 you go, So that changed it all for you. When 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:40.760 you have a number one? Do you have a lot more? Cloud? 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:42.920 Is it like everybody wants right with you? Now? Well, 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.040 I think it makes people take notice, like we all 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.320 are aware of what what's number one? And if it's 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.040 somebody that's never had one before, everybody's like, oh, it's cool. 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:56.360 It's like I think everybody loves to see somebody knew when. Um. 0:20:56.680 --> 0:21:01.040 I think that it makes people pay attention. Um. The 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:03.359 most beautiful thing is because as we all do our 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.919 own self doubting and I'm a one hit wonder, one 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.200 hit wonder them. A few months later I had a 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.399 number one one Terry Clark called I just want to 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:19.320 be mad. Never changed continue And what was fun is 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.280 because for me it was emotional and I'm like, okay, 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.520 even for me, I'm like, okay, I did it again. 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:28.159 You're not chumbawamba at this point. Yeah, well, I it was. 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.119 It was some confidence, you know, and uh and there 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:33.359 was a lot of things going on then. I mean 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:34.960 it's like we had, you know, several things that we 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:37.320 thought were gonna happen and then didn't. But those two 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.120 things that did kind of back to back, and uh, yeah, 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.159 I think that changed everything. It's certainly it got me 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.920 in riding rooms that I couldn't get in before. So 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.240 Joe Nichols, the impossible, the number one, Terry Clark. I 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.040 just want to be mad now I number one, your 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:57.160 fingers through my hair and your listen number one? What's next? Chronological? 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:59.840 I think the world would have been next. So the 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.399 world with Brad, which is a whole sidebar subject. But 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:21.119 to you maybe just another girl girl but me baby. 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:28.200 So you and Brad have a relationship where you have 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.760 written a lot of songs together, and so because and 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:33.640 knowing both, to you, guys, I see how you get 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:35.720 along because you guys have the same sense of humor. 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:37.960 Is that good? Well? I think you and I have 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:39.879 the same sense of humor too, and I think that's good. No, 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:41.600 it's not. It's not good for anybody except for us. 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:44.040 Because nobody else thinks we're funny. And we've seen that 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:45.920 in rooms where were the only two in the rooms 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:49.680 think we're funny? But you and Brad? Is that what 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.200 makes you guys take it first? Because you both have 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:57.680 that dry, sarcastic with the plus you're good songwriters. I 0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:59.879 don't know. You'd have to ask him. I've known him 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:03.080 so long um. And then before his first record came out, 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.359 we wrote the first time back then, and uh, and 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.240 I didn't that a matter of fact, The World was 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.440 the first cut that I had on him. UM and 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.560 I had a couple on that same album. And again, 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:17.520 you know, it's about relationships. I mean, from there we 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:19.320 end up spending more time together, and we ended up 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.640 we've been writing ever since then. But you like each 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:23.120 other and you don't know, you don't we spend time 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.800 together unless you like each other. Um. And again I 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:31.280 can't speak for him. I know that there's something familiar 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.840 about knowing somebody for so long. And you know, I 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.920 always say the music community is tight. So the people 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.159 that you're close to, we all do life together, and 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:44.600 we all you know, probably the goods, the bads. You know, 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:48.199 he's one of those people that. I mean, Brad's interesting 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:52.200 in that Brad. Brad's a talker. Brad likes to sit 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:56.200 and talk stuff out and and just hang. More so 0:23:56.400 --> 0:24:00.640 than anybody any guy in my life. Ad is all 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.280 about if he's gonna relax, if he's just gonna blow 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:06.240 off steam. We're just going somewhere, we're gonna hang. We'll 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:08.000 say we're gonna chat, we're gonna laugh, we're gonna listen 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.240 to music, we're gonna drive around, you know, and just 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.640 just hang you know. So yeah, it's like you spend 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.240 enough time with somebody, you know somebody pretty well. And 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:21.160 then he's incredibly loyal to his everyone in his world, 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:24.720 I mean, his his crew, you know, the bus drivers, 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:28.879 everyone in Brad Paisley Land has been there. Sometimes we say, 0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:32.120 what do you gotta do to get fired by Brad Paisley. 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.280 I mean he truly he loves his people and he 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:39.359 wants you there. And uh so he doesn't write unless 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:42.359 he's working on an album. So we're just hanging unless 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:43.800 it's time to do an album. And its time to 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:47.800 do an album, and then we write and it's intense. 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.760 It's it's all day and all night and all week 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:54.000 and all month and and you just slam it out 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.040 and you spend a lot of time together. And you're right. 0:24:56.119 --> 0:25:01.159 The world was at the first time track off the record. No, 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.040 I don't know. It wasn't that. There were several singles in. 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:06.160 I mean again, can you pressure a friend to put 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:10.359 your track out first? No? No, As a matter of fact, 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.240 you kinda I think you have to be careful and 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.160 there's an art to that. It's like, I'm really bad 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:21.000 at self promotion anyway. But if I'm sitting here and 0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.800 there's a conversation about the next single is going to 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:27.240 be my song or somebody else's song, I'm going to 0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:31.640 be thinking, I love you so much, please put mine note. 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.360 But I'm never, ever, ever, ever probably going to bring 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.360 it up or ask what he's thinking, because I feel 0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:41.240 like it puts him in an uncomfortable position. So the 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.600 world has a number one song at your number three? 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:55.160 What's number four? Um? I guess, I guess still a guy. 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.080 See this is how you know you're a great writer 0:25:58.160 --> 0:25:59.880 when you can't remember the order of your number one 0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:05.080 of the time kind of gets funky and hazy and 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:12.760 problems man, Bloomber, I'm still When I hear this song, 0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:14.600 I think of both of you guys personalities and this 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.440 song like I hear it and no by knowing you 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:20.600 guys like this is the quite essential song where both 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:21.800 of you guys, you got to get together and make 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.959 a bunch of jokes and the song comes out of it. Well. 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.640 The common phenomenator, but all all of your first four 0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.639 is Kelly Lovelace. I wrote the first two that you 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.680 played with just me and him, and then these two 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:36.240 brad things are me Brad and Kelly, And uh, yeah, 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.600 I mean I think again, it's it's also knowing somebody. 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:42.760 You know, we were in this conversation Kelly now about 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:47.600 Brad and Kilm and you know, it's it's this perfect, 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:51.119 amazing relationship, these two beautiful people with these beautiful lives 0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.800 and he's a country superstar and she's a movie star 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:59.720 and they're so happy, and uh and we you start 0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:01.400 to say and like I said to Kelly, I said, 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:05.120 do you think when nobody's around, they just have redneck 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:09.320 bites just like everybody else, just ugly, nasty, married fights. 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:14.400 And Kelly said, I don't know, they seem pretty stable. 0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.600 He probably annoys or he's still a guy. And that's 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.960 where the I did came from. How would you write that? 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:25.000 And so we kind of roughed in some thoughts on 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:26.879 it and took it to him and he liked it, 0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.760 but it took took a long time to get it. 0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.800 He's kind of gotta finally find an emotional connection to it. 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.240 And when he finally did, when he finally thought it 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:37.840 was funny, he got it to where he thought it 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.920 was funny. Then the question was how far do we go? 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:42.800 And so then we took it further than we probably 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.320 should have, and then that's when he decided it was perfect. 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.159 And we felt like it was uncommercial. We felt like 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:52.120 it would scare the label, and and the label felt 0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.520 like it would absolutely reach people. And and they were right, 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.520 and I'm glad they were. Does that song surprise you most? 0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:03.919 That's twenty of your number ones? Um, you know, only maybe, 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:08.920 But budd, you know, your opinion is kind of influenced 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:10.680 by what your peers say. And I felt like that. 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:16.040 Oddly enough, this this song probably from from my friends, 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.880 my writer friends. They probably gave this song more love 0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.600 than the others because they felt like it was written 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.680 so well, which is strictly based on a well written song. 0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.280 The thing that is interesting is it's been a while 0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.760 since anything this quote funny was a hit. It's like 0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:37.240 radio doesn't really do funny lately. So sometimes it shocks 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.160 me that something this light and is silly in this. 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.560 You know, he was a superstar then though, right at 0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.400 this point, so it's it's easier to be a little 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.280 funny love when you're a superstar and he had been 0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.640 funny enough alcohol was funny celebrity he had he had 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.560 done this before. It was kind of his thing, you know, 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.040 and it was it had been a little while, so 0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.760 it was kind of ready for it, um, but like 0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.080 he would test it. It shows of course, I said, 0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.200 he's been an arena act for a long time and 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.400 so before anybody had heard it, he would sit on 0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.120 a stool with an acoustic and he would sing it 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.680 to the minut an arena, which is gutsy and and 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.320 he was blown away because he said, he said, the 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:18.160 entire place just roared and laughed, which he says, that's 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.840 fantastic because they don't know the song. You're selling it 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.600 like that. And then we remember that he started getting 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.600 nervous right before it came out as a single because 0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:27.960 the album have been out for a while. This wasn't 0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.520 the first single of several singles in so people his 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.400 fans had had the album and they knew the music. 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:37.280 And I remember one day he had said, they're not 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:41.520 really laughing anymore, and then Kelly pointed out, he says, no, 0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:46.840 because they're singing. You know, everybody's singing now because they 0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:50.360 know it, you know, and then he still he still 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.440 does it, and it's it's fun to watch him do 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.280 it in concert because the entire place sings it back in. 0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.560 That's break brought to you by a Sleep number. I 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.959 gotta paid the bill, obviously. 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And right now you 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.560 can buy only get one and off, and you can 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.160 check out the great gifts too for greater sleep five 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.200 hundred Sleep Number stores eight hundred next bed and you 0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.120 can tell them that charted here on the Bobby Cast. 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.080 That's how you know you start to make it. Whenever 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.400 people want to advertise during a show. I'm big Sleep 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.720 number guy anyway, but whenever we started get people going 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.680 how and advertise them like dang, people are listening to 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.600 this thing now, so you you know I'm still a 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:24.280 guy that's your fourth number one. At this point, you're 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:28.000 rolling the dough. I mean you're walking around fur coats, 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.640 fur coats, fur coats come early though, I mean you 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:36.840 gotta jump on that immediately, gold chains, You're the whole thing. 0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.600 At this time, they really after four number ones? Are again? 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:43.000 Are you a big dog on music? Girl? I don't 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.600 know you know, here's the problem. Um, you may not 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.800 know this because there is no bigger dog than you. 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.560 But in music, it's like, no matter how good you're doing, 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.000 you've got somebody that's just killing you. You know. So 0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.600 by the time I had four, it's like a couple 0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.880 of my best friends had twelve or something. That's kind 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.560 of gone, Uh, this is exhausting because here's the thing. 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.800 It's it's a numbers game. It's a no game. So 0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:10.000 so I mean, I'm very blessed, so I can't complain 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.959 about my success, but understand, but the time you get 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:17.160 to the fourth number one, I mean, it's thousands of songs, 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:21.720 and and we write every day, and and then inevitably 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.160 the things that you think are your great stuff nobody 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.680 cares about. You know, they've passed on them. Or you 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:28.840 get things on the record and you okay, you're gonna 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:30.800 be the next single, and then the last minute they 0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:32.800 changed their mind and you don't get it, or the 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.840 thing comes out and and this is unbelievable. This is huge, 0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:38.440 This is gonna be huge, this is gonna be huge. 0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:40.720 And then the guy loses his record deal. I literally 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.280 had a single coming out Monday. This is a few 0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.719 years ago. Um, and it was a song that had 0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.320 been cut twice before and had never been a single, 0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.120 and this guy cuts that. He's on a major label. 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.200 It was the new single that was in all the trades. 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:56.000 They're going for ads on Monday and on Friday, the 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.840 guy calls me and he's crying and he says, I 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.000 just got dropped it. You know. So we do lots 0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:06.040 of heartbreak, you know, along the way. Um and you know, 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.880 so you're you're You're constantly Uh, is this is this 0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.000 the last one? I drive my wife crazy and all 0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.640 songwriters have just like it's big hit, number one record. 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.760 I wonder if that's the last one. You know, it 0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:22.600 wasn't take me to number five. I guess that was. 0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.360 You're gonna miss this, You're gonna miss this. Trace Atkins, 0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.160 did you write this with Trace? No? I wrote this 0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:36.080 with Ashley Gorley. So did you write in color with Trace? 0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.360 Did you ever write with Trace? No? You know, I 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.160 wonder because that would be a weird dynamic. That's why 0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:42.480 I asked, because I got a chance on the Trace. 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:46.280 He's a little difficult to have a conversation with a 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.280 man a very few words. He's quiet. Yeah, I mean 0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:53.280 he's uh, he writes, I don't Tracey never. I don't 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.400 think Tracy ever loved writing you know, I've never written 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.320 with written with Trace about if you cuts on Trace? Um. 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.320 Race is such a cartoon character because he's so big 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.160 and his voice is so deep, and he's he's kind 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:09.160 of scary, you know. Yeah, and his stories too, once 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:17.920 you learn them, it's scary. Yeah, like he's a bad man. Yeah, yeah, Um, 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.480 you never stopped thinking about that. You know what's funny 0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:25.200 is Trace cut in color? That I think that's where 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.160 it was. I think in Trace cut in color on 0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.480 the same session as you're going to miss this and uh. 0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:31.799 And then Jamie got a record deal that we didn't 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.320 even know that he was trying to get, and we 0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:35.920 had to call Trace and tell him he couldn't have 0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.279 an and color him. I didn't call him. I made 0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.080 somebody else call him. Both those guys with one of 0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.480 those guys. So you're gonna miss this Coast number one. 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:47.600 But this is a monster song. Of all of these 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.200 songs so far, in my mind, this is the biggest 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:53.759 so far as far as just all encompassing. Everybody knows it. 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:55.840 Do you feel that way because he's just my personal 0:34:56.080 --> 0:35:01.759 feeling him a hard I think so, Um, this this 0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.560 one song of the heard a couple of things. It 0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.960 was nominated for all the big awards and didn't win 0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:11.640 any of them. We lost to other things. But um, yeah, 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.920 I think that it's certainly for impact. This one is 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:19.640 what is used for graduations, and you know, it's done 0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:24.640 a lot of things until In Color comes along. It's 0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:26.640 is interesting thing. But in Color and Color only went 0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:31.440 to seven. This wasn't a number one song. It was 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.600 not you know that's it's not that and I am 0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.879 shocked by it, but I'm not because Girl Crush wasn't 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:39.800 a number one song. And there are a lot of 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.680 huge songs that don't hit number one for whatever political reasons. 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.400 Radio has and labels. You know, there's a lot of 0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.960 labels going, okay, we'll trade you this for this, and 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:53.200 for some reason it doesn't happen well. And In Color 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.960 sounded for all of the things that made people loving Color, 0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:01.239 it hurt it commercially. I can't blame what I ever 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:05.000 one song and it took forever to get and you stuck. 0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.120 You can't even get this song number one. You wouldn't 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:09.440 have done this if you haven't known, this didn't go 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.840 number one. That's the only way that I brought it 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:16.160 at this listen, This song, though now is the biggest 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.960 song of all of them. I would say this one 0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:24.719 changed my life more than anything else, because you know, 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:30.520 the music business is almost is an interesting animal. So 0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.320 you can have you can have a big hit on 0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:40.360 a big commercial, cool sounding record that people the business 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.600 just struggles their shoulders say you congratulations, it's a hit. 0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:47.800 It's another one, another one, this one. I don't know. 0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.120 I'm not the one to speak on it. I just 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.480 know that the things that people said to me respect 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:58.759 wise craft wise, um, it got a lot of a 0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:00.439 lot of love. And I had a lot of people 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.560 say wonderful, a lot of nice things to me about this. 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:08.160 This is a song that's people's favorite song. And all 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.400 the other songs but in the trade song could probably 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.800 be a favorite song too. And the other songs that 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.320 you had Nuver once with those are really fun, good songs, 0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.120 but very few songs and lifetimes our favorite songs of people, 0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:21.600 because like I have two or their favorite songs in 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.000 my life, Like that's it, Like what favorite song? I 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:24.799 got a couple of favorite songs like I love stop 0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:26.520 this Train from John Mayer, like I would say I 0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.279 have a couple of favorite songs if tomorrow never comes, 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.000 like I have a couple of favorite songs. I know. 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.960 For example, my manager Mary Forest, this is our favorite 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.960 song in her life. This is main Grandma. Listen to 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:47.920 this summer song Christa. The day we said off, you 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:53.400 can't tell it was hot that Jane and roads was red, 0:37:54.680 --> 0:38:00.720 were blue? Just look at that. I was so from 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.959 that's the story. And you're telling me Tray Scott this first, 0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:10.439 and you had to call Trace and go, hey, gota 0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:14.839 take it back. We did, and nobody was really talking 0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.880 about you're gonna miss this. I don't It wouldn't have 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.720 made the record. However, everybody was freaking out about in Color. 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.000 And I had one of the studio musicians actually called 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.279 me the day they tracked it, and they tracked both 0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.160 of them and and he says, man, he says, why 0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.960 do you hear in color? It is unbelievable. And and 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.360 so the producer called me into to play me the 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:38.560 cuts and uh, and he played me You're gonna miss this, 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.440 but I already knew the Trace really didn't like it, 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.000 like he wasn't really into it, and then he played 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:48.360 me in Color Tracey's cut and it killed me. It 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.719 was it was big, and it was it sounded expensive. 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.440 I mean, it would just wow, is this a big record? 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.680 And and there's rumblings that might be the title track 0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.360 of the album was gonna be a career record for 0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:02.680 Trace and and you know, and then he wanted to 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.320 go do the Celebrity Apprentice, which put the entire album 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:08.719 on hold and they're gonna do something else, and that 0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.920 gave them just enough hiccup that Jamie the whole time 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:14.600 knew he was going to do another record, and so 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.160 he turned a group of songs into uh the label, 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.839 another label, and uh they offered him a record deal 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.120 on the spot. And then they turned around and says, 0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.640 but the the easiest thing, we think we can get 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:31.600 radio to places in Color and uh so okay. And 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.160 so then I walked into Publish one day and they 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.160 said we got a problem and they said their shipping 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:40.120 and Color the radio for Jamie and Uh, I said, 0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:43.879 Jamie has a deal and they said yeah, and I said, 0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:49.439 but we've already promised Trace and they said, somebody sat 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:54.920 called Trace and I said, called Jamie. Jamie called Trace 0:39:55.160 --> 0:40:00.320 really and he did, and how I Trace about that? 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:04.279 Do you know? So I hadn't talked to Trace, and 0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.520 uh it was at the number one party for You're 0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.400 Gonna Miss This and we're standing on the platform. We 0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:11.399 we we've all done our little speech and our thank 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:13.920 you and and we're having a picture taken and I'm 0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.680 standing next to Trace, and of course he's nine ft tall, 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:21.480 and I said, um, I'm sorry about it in Color, 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:28.680 and he goes, yeah, he says, well, he says, if 0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.920 Jamie wouldn't a writer on it, it would have been 0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:34.640 a different story. But Jamie was a writer. What am 0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.960 I supposed to do? You wrote it with Jamie did. 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:43.640 And so we went to Vegas for the a c 0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:48.080 M and When in Color was nominated for Song of 0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:52.200 the Year and we won. And uh so after we 0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.320 go up and we accept our award, we go on 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.600 the back and we come back out to go back 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.000 to our seats and commercial break and I come walking 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.239 out through the crowd and it's fun because it's all music. 0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.680 Rows out there. Anybody's high five and youn, you know, 0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:11.279 and somebody screams Miller and everybody stops and turns around 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.880 and Trace is standing up this much taller than everybody else, right, 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:19.239 and says, come here. And so I walk over the 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:20.560 to him and I kid you not there. I'm in 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:23.279 my suit. We're all looking and he puts me in 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:27.560 a headlock and he screams with for garrityes, that's my 0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:32.520 blanking song. And I remember I'm staying ahead, like looking 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.440 at kid Rock, who's watching me be beat up by 0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.359 Trace Atkins? And and then he laughed and he hit 0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:43.120 me and he said, oh blank blank blank congratulations. So 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.759 that song also, like you go to the Grammys for 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:49.719 that song? Right, he did have I've had three Grammy nominations, 0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.400 which is beautiful. It just gets you so close to 0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.440 make you make you want one. UM was interesting is 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.520 in Color was up against You're gonna miss this for 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:02.360 the Grammy. You had two songs utter the same Grammy 0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:08.200 and by the time but the time I got there, 0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:12.880 because uh, impossible is up for a Grammy. But we 0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:14.719 knew where were you in the Royal stop starning. We 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.040 knew that was gonna win, and it did. Um and 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:23.320 then we go for miss this and and in Color 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.320 and it's like, okay, well there's five there's five choices. 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:31.120 I have two of them, and a lot of people 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.160 thought In Color was gonna win. So but the time 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.440 you get down to the and the winter is I'm 0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.359 pretty pumped, I'm pretty and I'm dying. So I'm thinking, 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.840 what are we really going to win a Grammy? And 0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:45.600 we didn't? Stay sugar Land. Speaking of sugar Land, they 0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.600 won and uh and I'm I'm sitting there with Trace, 0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.000 you know, thinking I'm going to win for it in 0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:56.359 Color and then we didn't win anything. So stay good. 0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.160 I'm not gone to these days. A good song, dude, 0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:01.040 that's a favorite song for people, do I know? But 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.200 you're my friends and we you shouldn't say that out loud. 0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.399 I would have voted Frank Color though that's a life song. 0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:09.520 They're both great though, that Stay song. I We're watching 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.120 a video for that one and being like, oh my god, 0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.399 this get Jennifer was crying during the song. I don't 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.640 know if she's acting. Probably she's a good actor. But 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.239 you know what, Actually, at the a c M, s 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.359 in Color was up against You're gonna miss the Song 0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.680 of the Year at the a c M, and in 0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.439 Color one song of the year, and you're gonna miss 0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.480 this one single of the year, so you want both 0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:32.920 with both. The single is for the producer and the artist, 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.400 but he's still a youth song. And you wrote the 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:36.920 song and they didn't get they want to produce it 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.160 or sing it if you didn't reach pretty fantastic it was. 0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:42.200 That was a lot of fun. It's like all my 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.920 worlds are colliding because like, what do I don't know 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.360 anything of music, right, I mean, I do whatever I do. 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.439 But we do our little musical thing and write some songs. 0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.400 But really the only two people that I feel compable 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.520 writing with that are you and Christian Bush. That's it. 0:43:56.040 --> 0:44:00.200 That's and you guys are up against well. I don't 0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.399 let people you know me. I'm a very private guy. 0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:06.200 When I'm not public, I'm not that fun and I'm 0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:10.080 not that confident. I can remember the first time because 0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:11.880 we were like, hey, I didn't know how to do 0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.520 a record. I don't think about a record, and it was, hey, 0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:17.839 I'm gonna a comedy record because we had we'd say goals, 0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:19.000 and we said, hey, if we make a million buck 0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:20.960 for charity, we're gonna do a record. And before we 0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.160 could do a record, we had raised two million and 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.320 we're like, holy crap, we kind of owe it to 0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.840 ourselves to at least try. I don't any songwriters. I 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.360 don't anything, right. I know like five chords. Now I 0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.440 know like nine, so it's not even that much that different. 0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.640 And so I'm just writing with a couple of people 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:38.120 that I know and by myself and my comedy friend 0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.320 writers where I'm the musical lead, which is not a 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:45.160 good place for me to be. So Nick Autrey, who's 0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:46.680 a produce who was produced in the record who worked 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:48.759 at Black River, was like, listen, I've been trying to 0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:50.719 get this guy for all right. He will not write 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.000 with me. He didn't, I swear to God, but I promise, 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:55.200 he said, he will not write with me. I can't 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.680 get on for a right. He said, Can I use 0:44:57.960 --> 0:44:59.640 and say you're writing and try to get him to 0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.080 come and do a right? And I was like, I 0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:04.200 don't care what you do. I don't know anybody, Like sure, 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.600 whatever you want to do, and he goes okay. And 0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:08.040 I don't even know what the guy's name was. He 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.359 told me it was anyway. I get there and it's late, 0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:12.480 I don't I don't know. I know you're from Jim 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:14.400 you know. I was like, because I didn't know, I 0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.680 don't want anybody like I really, people think, oh, you 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.360 must not, I don't know anybody. When it comes to 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.600 like the minutia of what's happening underneath the music, I 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.279 don't know anybody. I'm starting to meet people now through 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:29.399 different processes of touring and riding and not so much radio, 0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:31.400 but the different parts of it. Like you, now, I 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.960 have songwriter friends and I have a girlfriend who's so 0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:37.600 it's but then I knew nothing. So all I know 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:41.759 is it's a guy named Lee that the producer of 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:43.960 the record is like just giddy that he gets to 0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.440 write with them, And I'm like, well, let's see what happens. 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.040 I don't even know we wrote the first time we 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:57.960 were together. I like you, I love this. I love 0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.880 fool House about my inner millity to say I love you. 0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:04.200 It's just concerning that you have them queued up that easily. 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.319 People think this is like studio tricks where you're doing 0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:09.560 this later, but you're literally just hitting the button as 0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:11.520 we talk. Oh yeah, there's no editing. We don't edit 0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:13.040 this at all. We don't if there's a role, right 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.560 Mike me, Yeah, he wrote I liked you for the 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.960 raging Idiots, and then I was like, oh, that lead 0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:20.319 was pretty nice. I had no idea what you're listen. 0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:23.000 I didn't know anything. It wasn't disrespecting at all. It 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:28.239 was clueless. And so Lee leaves and he was like 0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.600 he was like freaking out. It's like we just wrote 0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:33.000 with Lee Miller around like that's amazing. Like I was like, 0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:35.080 that's cool. You know it's cool. And we look make 0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:36.680 a Wikipedia and I was like, I can't find a 0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:40.080 Lee Miller anywhere because I know it's Lee Thomas Miller, right, 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.040 And I was like, this guy, probably why you want 0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.320 to write with him? Many have many songs Lee Miller, 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:47.480 like Lee is that Arthur Miller's brother from back in 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:49.520 the fifties. And I didn't know what the deal was, right, 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.440 So he was like, no, no, no, I thought you 0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.600 had done the Google before we wrote. Now, I just 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:57.240 feel weird why I didn't know anything. It was just ignorance. 0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.520 So the second time I was ready. Though second time 0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.240 he said I'm athlete to write again. I'm like, cool, 0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:06.000 athlete right again. We I thought we were we were friendly. 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:07.279 We hit it off, which I don't hear it off 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:09.399 a lot of people because I'm very reserved and shy 0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:11.480 to a point where sometimes people think it's I'm rude, 0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.279 but I just I'm very introverted when I'm not extroverted. 0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.000 So I was like, I like leak. I felt like 0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:18.760 I could make jokes and I thought you were funny, 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.040 and so I said, yeah, bring it back in, and 0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:25.640 so we went. We went. We started playing this song 0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:28.160 and we're like, hey, let's write a song about Starbucks, right, 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:33.640 and so stop. This isn't how it started. It started 0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:37.520 with two guitars. Oh, it didn't sound anything like this, 0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:39.920 and it was it was like really it was a 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.480 country song where we were, you know, singing it and 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.640 I was like, hey, Ley, play a little faster. Let 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:46.600 me try to wrap this thing, and he's like you wrap. 0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:49.560 I was like, let's just see what happens here, solely 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:51.719 like did the boss starts popping it? Like this was 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:53.680 not popping it. Yeah, you're popping it pretty hard. He 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:56.160 was hitting was And so it was written on two 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:59.080 acoustics and the next thing, you know, we have this 0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:01.680 ridiculous song that, by the way, it's so weird you 0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:03.600 have people singing this song back but our band, the 0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:06.600 Raging Idiots to the song Starbucks and does leave stop 0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:11.279 buy filling up my cup store, buy jacking me up 0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.680 Stars ten thousand degrees and ye'all take it down the 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:18.320 shiny something to eat. I'm always holding enough to like 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.480 because I might be a little choosy, and I do 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:23.200 appreciate the fact you use a paper CUZI, how's that 0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:27.520 notin for Graham? That's that's great production. Oh yeah, the 0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.759 one of the most fantastic pieces of writing I've ever heard. 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:34.640 And production and vocals. I mean, it's all right there 0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:38.279 now you shouldn't be. But here's a funny story. So, uh, 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:42.120 we're playing the Rheman last year for the million dollars show, 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:43.880 and that this is a show for St. Jude, and 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.839 I invite a ton of people out there play with us, 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:50.040 and so it's our band, the Raging Idiots, but all 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.560 show long, it's a little big talent, it's Kelsey, It's 0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:55.719 it's people that I'm friends with that are coming on 0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:57.920 to also raise money for St. Jude. But they were 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:00.600 easy calls for me because I don't asked people to 0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:03.040 do stuff, and but when it comes to charity, I'll 0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.040 ask my friends to do stuff. And I'll be like, so, 0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:06.640 you know, I called a little big town, and I 0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:11.640 called Kelsey, and I called Carry Carrie who. All these 0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.400 people were just fantastic to show up. And at the 0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:17.439 end of it we played during this raging idiot show, 0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.600 we play Starbucks and I like you, and and Lee 0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:23.600 and his wife came and I was like, hey, Lee stay, 0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:25.279 you know there's like want but I want to. I 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:27.480 want to hang out because I like Lee. I don't 0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:31.120 know enough, like genuinely, I like like that's it was 0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:33.400 for the first time. And so I was like, I 0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:35.600 was being funny. I made a joke. I said, hey, dude, congratulations, 0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:37.080 you've got two songs played at the rhyme of tonight. 0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.840 He goes, no, no, no, okay, I got three, and 0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:42.680 I was like, dude, we play something else that you wrote. 0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:45.400 He's like, no, no, no. Chris Stainpleton had showed up 0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.360 and we invited them. He was a secret guest and 0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:50.040 Chris again, I just made a call because with the 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:51.840 Chris think like we we had Christ and before that 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:53.920 his Traveler came out. I was just a big fan 0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:57.320 of Chris as a songwriter and as a vocalist. So 0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:01.120 Chris was just grateful and it's still it's very loyal 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:02.600 to this day. And I don't do anything because he's like, 0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:05.719 I just appreciate you, like being there for me when 0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:08.719 it wasn't Chris Stapleton. And so Chris comes and at 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:10.680 this time he had blown up. Then he shows up 0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:12.800 and the crowd is going crazy and he plays whiskey 0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:18.680 in you right, that's the difference. And then I said, yeah, 0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.799 I wrote whiskey in here. And I was like, God 0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.880 got me. It was supposed for me to say that one. No, 0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:29.919 I set myself up. I didn't know. I set myself 0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:31.360 up and got plans right in the NAT. It's like 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:33.880 I was like, hey, you gotta feel good, dude. He's like, No. No. 0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:36.560 Three and the good one. I wrote the good one whiskey. 0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:41.000 I didn't say that in my heart. You did, So 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:49.120 you're right, this Chris one long gone to him. Um 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:51.920 a couple of years ago, I said, because this has 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:55.719 been cut several times before. Chris put Traveler out and 0:50:56.040 --> 0:51:02.000 McGraw cut it, and uh for one, and I think 0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.919 Aaron Lewis has cut it, and and um, I said, 0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:06.880 I'll tell you what is this line? And this is 0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:08.680 a drink be goes I'm Lonely and I'm Lonely goes 0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.480 a drink and I said, if it's ever a hit, 0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:18.000 I will get that tattooed somewhere. And he says, okay, 0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.800 he says, how about this. The higher the hit on 0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:27.360 the charts, the more visible the tattoo. So it hasn't 0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:30.920 it hasn't been on the chart yet. So it's one 0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:34.960 of those songs that's an album cut. And again you 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:38.160 always want the single because that's how a songwriter makes 0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:41.480 the money. Because but that's that's that's one of the 0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:45.239 album cuts on records that people know, because most time 0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:46.879 you don't know album cuts. It's a lot of people 0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:50.160 know this. Yeah, it's really it's uh, but that whole 0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:53.000 album is so good from front to back that a 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:56.000 lot of those songs are so well known. So yeah, 0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:59.080 you're right that with Chris and those other people. Kind 0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:01.480 of first I had no idea he uh, you know, 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:04.920 Chris is incredibly successful as a songwriter and and the 0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:07.000 whole time, I mean it wasn't like he just all 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:09.000 of a sudden become incredible. I mean we've all known 0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:12.560 it forever. Um, we wrote at the same company for 0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:14.000 a long time, and I spent a lot of time 0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:17.359 with Chris, and I wrote every other Wednesday with Chris 0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:20.640 for years. And uh so once he got his record 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:23.200 deal and you know, immediately and he's had a record 0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:25.200 deal for a while, it takes a while for things 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.279 to happen. And uh, you know, I've been telling him 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:31.399 now for years, you know, at least three years or something, 0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.480 says he's been out, you know, being an artist and traveling, 0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:37.320 and about ever two months, I'll just text him and 0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:40.400 say I miss my every other Wednesday. Because it was 0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:42.600 like you just knew. I mean, sometimes we wrote just 0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:47.279 commercial ditty and sometimes we wrote dark and sad, but 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.680 whatever it was, it was always so good, like we 0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:54.080 had me and Chris wrote Thomas Rhet's first single with him, 0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:57.520 and Thomas was still in the which is something to 0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:07.440 do with my n sticks, So you would Stapleton righte 0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:09.759 this for Thomas and he was still in college. It's 0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.680 funny because the other day I saw Thomas and I said, 0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:16.080 I need to update my contact because I want to 0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.200 email you something the other day and it's still your 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:23.960 college dot ed it whatever it is address. So he 0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:26.719 would like, you know, come right with us in the 0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.320 morning and then go do afternoon classes. Good dude, like, 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.359 good dude. Yeah. I like Thomas a lot. Yeah, it's 0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:36.240 good dude. He's I mean, he's the next superstar, serious 0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:40.920 and has earned it, not been thrown up there, like 0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:45.279 he's taken all the right steps, and I like him 0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:49.640 a lot. Wonderful thing. So you inn Stableton wrote that 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:53.840 for Thomas. Good. Let me ask you about with more 0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:56.120 Number one you had here, Uh Tim McGraw's Southern Girl, 0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:59.520 So you're right, this was here Rodney Clawson and Jared 0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:05.160 Johnstone Jared by the way, catle like three and also 0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.640 kind of like three, but a very prominent songwright absolutely 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.160 like maybe even bigger songwriter, but it's kind of like 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:12.400 three as good as they are, they ever really cut 0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:16.440 through commercially yet songwriter like one of the real elite guys. 0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:20.120 That band is so good too, they haven't had the 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:23.560 right song, right, So you guys write this and so 0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:25.200 do you pitch to my girl first or does it 0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:26.560 go around? I think he was the first person that 0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:29.320 heard it. I think that he was looking, you know, 0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:32.440 and uh, you know, Tim has been good to all 0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:34.879 of us, and we sent it over and they loved 0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:39.040 it and they cut it, and there you go to lady. 0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:42.000 See that's the that's the opposite of the impossible, Like 0:54:42.160 --> 0:54:45.160 that story is the polar opposite of the impositive is 0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:47.000 And you know what's funny that people love this song. 0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:49.399 It's like you can kind of gauge at Writer's Nights 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:51.719 when I do them, you know the popularity of things 0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:54.239 and how much how much people love them. I'm just 0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:57.080 the sing and you're so good at Writer's Nights. It 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.759 it's it's really bad. I played Mike, I played one 0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:03.160 with the Lee want. It was awful. It wasn't really 0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:06.400 a lot of the worst performing experience in my life. 0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:08.560 And I've had a couple of really bad ones. But 0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:14.200 Lee says, hey, will you play tin Pan South right? 0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:16.360 Maybe the first time I got it right? And and 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:18.480 I not that I don't, I just I'm not in 0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:20.400 the writer world. You had no idea, No, I know 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:22.239 it was I was like Tampan's out, Sure, what is that? Like? 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:26.319 Everybody brings bands understand playing the kitchen. Bobby famously says, 0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:27.839 I don't know people. I don't know people I don't 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:31.920 know you know, and and somebody it's the Nashville song 0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:34.319 or Association who puts on Tin Pans South is their 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.319 big fundraisers said do you think Bobby would play Tin 0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:39.480 Pans South with you? And I said, so they came 0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:42.080 to you, which it was just kind of a candid thing. 0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:44.440 Do you think Bobby would do it? And I said no, 0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.040 and okay, wells let ask And so then I stood 0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:52.640 there and I was like wow, I said that would 0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:55.640 be a really good one because people people would like 0:55:55.800 --> 0:56:01.439 to seem I said, okay, oh, ask, but there's no way. 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:03.719 And so I just text him and I just said, hey, 0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:06.719 would you do? Would you do? Tim been South? And 0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:08.960 I gave him a date or the dates the week 0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:14.319 and he writes right back, sure, And I said, wait, 0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:17.440 I didn't know what it was. All I do was 0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:19.759 my friend. And again, maybe three people could have asked 0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:21.600 me that question, and two of them might have said 0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:22.920 maybe two and one of them I would have said 0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:24.719 yes too. And he asked, was leave I know what 0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:26.440 it was? I thought it was like a but you 0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:28.400 said yes immediately, so I knew you didn't know what 0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:30.760 what it was. I no idea, But you were asking 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:33.319 me the same way that I will make the call 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:35.839 to close friends and they say yes before I can 0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:37.839 really explain what it is. Like, I was like, yes, 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.959 but ye sure what. Well, immediately there was pressure because 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:42.840 I'm like, okay, wait is he just doing this? Because 0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:44.719 I asked, because I don't know that we're close enough 0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.319 that heat would he do that? Because so I said, wait, 0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:50.480 I don't think you know what this is. And he says, 0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.040 I'll do it if you want me to. And I said, okay, 0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:56.400 it's going to be me and you and two other 0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:58.720 guys were gonna sit on stools, we're gonna take turns 0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:02.160 and for two hours, we're gonna lay songs and tell 0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:04.520 the story behind the song. And it's light and it's loose, 0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:07.239 but there'll be a big crowd and it's a songwriter's night. 0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:11.560 And his quote was, I literally bring nothing to the table, 0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:13.960 but I will if you want me to. And so 0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:18.280 now I'm like, I'm flattered, and I'm terrified because that's 0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:21.080 a lot of pressure in case he hates this. Right 0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:24.680 on the opposite, I'm terrified, and then I'm flattered in 0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:28.720 the opposite order. Well, you did it, and it was amazing. 0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.480 This this is the awful thing. So Lee's first, and 0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.840 usually I'm the funny guy, and then I do the 0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:38.480 bad music stuff. Lee's also the funny guy, and he 0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:40.160 does a great he is nail and all these number 0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:41.840 one songs, and then I have to go and I'm 0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:43.880 not even the funny guy, nor am I the music guy, 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:46.520 and so I'm like, oh great, I have to follow 0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:49.480 freakingly again, and so all night long, I'm falling Lee. 0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:52.400 But the two guys that he mentioned are two of 0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.000 the bigger songwriters in all the country music right now, 0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:57.800 Ashley Gorley and Christa Stephano, who have numb one number 0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:00.680 one number one like crazy. And so it's me and 0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:04.920 three humongous songwriters and they're up there just blasting out 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:08.760 their hits and I'm like, star but spilling up my 0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:12.440 cup it really, I was just like what And this 0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:14.040 is what I was told to He was like, well, 0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:16.440 you know, play four or five songs, that's it. I 0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:18.320 was like, great, So I prepared four or five songs 0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:22.000 and it we ended up going sevn D. We went 0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:24.600 way deep, and I was like at one point, I 0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:25.520 was like, I don't know, I don't have more, I 0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:27.160 don't know what I was gonna play, Like, I don't 0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:28.959 know that any songs, Like I know parts of the songs. 0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:30.840 I know how to sing songs, but you're I'm supposed 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:33.440 to do them all? But yes, I that was just 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:37.080 you're asking, yes, I will do it, and I figured 0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:39.920 it out and I'm much better. I learned a lot 0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:43.600 from that experience, really, like what how to handle that 0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:45.560 situation and how to get to that level where I 0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:47.400 can do it again and not feel so foolish. I'm 0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:49.439 never going to be good. I know my limitations in life, 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:53.560 but it's where can you find things that take those 0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:58.800 limitations and kind of rise above. And first of all, 0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:02.160 I'll know more songs. Secondly, I know my role. I'm 0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:03.439 gonna playing with you. First of all, I'm not playing 0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:05.520 beside you. I'm gonna play in front of you, or 0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:07.400 I'm gonna play like three people down. I'm not playing 0:59:07.440 --> 0:59:10.240 beside you. So I also learned how to do a writer. 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:11.960 I've never done a writer drown before before that. So 0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:13.320 you want to do them again? So just and if 0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:14.680 I want to, but if you need me, I would 0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:16.960 do it in a second. But to go from not 0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:21.320 doing one to doing that one would be comparable to 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:25.280 moving to Nashville just learning how to play the guitar 0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:27.720 and me going hey, come play on our radio show 0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.840 for for five million people, Like that was kind of 0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:34.160 and it was really weird and it's fool I felt 0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:37.800 foolish after it was over. But everybody was happy, right, 0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:41.000 I think all the people came to see they did 0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:44.080 not Christina Stephano sings as good as any artists out there, 0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:47.080 just about and he's just like nailing. He was doing 0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:49.800 Carrie something in the water, which he wrote, and it's 0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:52.400 just like he's singing it as loud and as pure 0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:54.160 as it can possibly be, saying and I'm just like 0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.080 and to Stefano finishes stepping in the water and the 0:59:57.160 --> 1:00:00.840 people go crazy, and then the crowd notes down. Bobby says, 1:00:01.280 --> 1:00:03.480 how much money do you have in your wallet right now? 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:06.800 That's but that's what they wanted to know, Like people 1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:09.080 always want to know that stuff. And so I'm like, okay, 1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:11.320 I'm just gonna be me and I'm gonna ask questions 1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:13.320 that are coming to my head because I got a 1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:15.640 note you wrote that song. How much as your wallet 1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:17.440 right this second? Like how much cash you holding? And 1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:20.680 he kind of dnanswered on the question. He didn't answer. 1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:22.440 That's okay, and you don't always have to answer, but 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:26.240 I have to ask. So, yeah, that was the fun night. 1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:28.880 You are writing and you haven't writing with some of 1:00:28.920 --> 1:00:33.280 my friends. Brother's Osborne. Those are my dudes. They're they're 1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:36.480 so they're so far my dudes. That John's wife is 1:00:36.520 --> 1:00:39.080 like Lucy Sella's is like one of my favorite artists 1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:42.320 in the world. Who, So your brother's Osborne. I haven't 1:00:42.320 --> 1:00:45.240 ain't my fault up here. So you guys wrote this together? Yeah, 1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:57.360 I love had a little fall wrong. Wait you think 1:00:57.400 --> 1:01:00.640 of those guys, well, in my head, I thing like him. 1:01:01.600 --> 1:01:04.040 They're wonderful, They're so fun to work with, They're so 1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:06.920 fun to write with. I mean, I can't I think that. 1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:09.840 You know, one of the next big things that was 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:13.400 so exciting, Um, they want Song of the Year at ASCAP, 1:01:14.040 --> 1:01:17.240 which I knew it was gonna happen, and I've been 1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:20.600 sworn to secrecy and uh and they announced it and 1:01:20.680 --> 1:01:26.760 they just lost their minds in this beautiful emotional maybe 1:01:26.800 --> 1:01:30.600 it hippened, look no, and they were very emotional about 1:01:30.600 --> 1:01:34.080 it because they really were, like they were moved very many. 1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:38.120 Everything they said was so pure. And then at the 1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:41.520 c m as they won duo and and I mean, 1:01:41.760 --> 1:01:43.360 you know, we're sitting where we were there, me and 1:01:43.480 --> 1:01:45.880 my wife and and you know, you're all dressed up 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:47.560 and you're sitting at bridge Stone, you're watching it, and 1:01:47.840 --> 1:01:51.520 you know it's we we you know, probably not gonna 1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:52.800 be shocked by a whole lot, so you're just gonna 1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:54.200 and all of a sudden they win. And I was like, 1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:56.480 I'm throwing popcorn and I'm screaming and I'm dancing and 1:01:56.560 --> 1:01:59.200 I'm flailing, and and everybody was It's one of those names. 1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:02.240 Was like these such good guys. It was such a 1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:06.320 great moment. Everyone expected Florida Georgia Linea went again and 1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:08.120 they didn't. And it was a double shock. One that 1:02:08.120 --> 1:02:10.920 Florida George line didn't win to that Brother's Osborne and 1:02:10.960 --> 1:02:13.480 one and not the Brothers Aldborne to deserve it, but 1:02:13.480 --> 1:02:16.840 nobody was predicting that well. And yeah, and and understand 1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:21.320 that this wasn't anything against Florida Georgia Lyne's just it. 1:02:21.680 --> 1:02:25.080 You know, they're at their peak. I mean clearly, you 1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:27.920 know they're they're they're killing it and and any anyone 1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:31.320 else would have been an underdog. And for Brother's Osborne 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:35.480 to win, um, it was exciting. But but also because 1:02:36.240 --> 1:02:38.880 everyone that has experienced these guys just loved them. They're 1:02:39.080 --> 1:02:44.320 they're they're wonderful musicians and they're just sweethearts. Yeah, John 1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:47.960 plays the guitar like I'm uh, it's amazing, maniac and 1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:50.520 I see great guitar players, and he played like a maniac. 1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:54.160 I'll disagree with you a bit. I think they're very deserving. 1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:57.600 I think a part of it was anti Florida Georgia Line. 1:02:57.640 --> 1:03:01.000 I do um not that they're not. And I say 1:03:01.080 --> 1:03:03.480 that as like I know brothers, other one's parents, Like 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:06.600 that's how like I these are. They're like, I was 1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:08.520 so happy for them. I think a little bit of 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:10.760 that sentiment wasn't even about Floria Georgia Line. It was 1:03:10.840 --> 1:03:12.800 that type of music. It was like, we want there 1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:16.360 to be a slight change, and they've also wanted X 1:03:16.440 --> 1:03:20.640 not of years in a row, who is awesome, and 1:03:21.000 --> 1:03:23.200 we want to kind of make a slight change. And 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:24.360 I think that was a part of it. I don't 1:03:24.360 --> 1:03:26.280 think it was the majority of it. But if I 1:03:26.400 --> 1:03:29.240 didn't say that some of that was anti Florida Georgia Line, 1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:31.160 I would be lying. But that's my just my opinion. 1:03:31.800 --> 1:03:33.640 So I was pumped for him, like I was going 1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:35.120 crazy and I was watching the Cubs play. I didn't go. 1:03:35.360 --> 1:03:36.640 I didn't even go to the c m A. Like, 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:38.760 screwed c m AS. First of all, screwed to CIMA anyway, 1:03:38.920 --> 1:03:41.280 but then that's that's me saying that, not you. But 1:03:41.480 --> 1:03:44.480 then that's yeah, it's for sure. Yeah, screwed the c 1:03:44.640 --> 1:03:46.280 m A. But I didn't go to the c m AS. 1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:48.080 I went. I came home to watch the Cubs play, 1:03:48.560 --> 1:03:51.280 and I flipped over for that, because when your friends play, 1:03:51.360 --> 1:03:52.920 you want to watch. And because Lindsay played too. She 1:03:52.960 --> 1:03:55.840 played with Carey that night, um, and so there were 1:03:55.880 --> 1:03:58.880 things I was flipping over for to catch. But yeah, 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:00.760 that was cool. I wasn't like all of those guys. 1:04:01.120 --> 1:04:05.240 She was part of the whole wild girl rock band 1:04:05.560 --> 1:04:09.000 part of the evening Your girlfriend was yeah, yeah, I'm 1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:11.440 proud of her. I've tried to get you to come 1:04:11.440 --> 1:04:13.520 to a cocktail party during Awards week two and you 1:04:13.680 --> 1:04:17.240 you wouldn't come clause of the cups. Yeah, and it 1:04:17.320 --> 1:04:20.560 was a cocktail party more because it was the Cubs. 1:04:20.600 --> 1:04:23.400 And I don't do week nights at all, like zero 1:04:23.480 --> 1:04:26.280 week nights. Altho. The last time I's got a Crackerbowl 1:04:26.280 --> 1:04:29.280 commercial till probably eleven o'clock. You have dinner at my 1:04:29.320 --> 1:04:31.240 house on a week I did, and it was really late, 1:04:31.280 --> 1:04:32.560 and I was not like you wanted I felt like 1:04:32.600 --> 1:04:35.520 you wanted us to leave because you're your unbutton, your 1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:37.560 top button, and you started to look a little disheveled. 1:04:37.720 --> 1:04:39.919 See you keep telling that, and and at some point 1:04:40.080 --> 1:04:42.360 I'm gonna be like slumped over in a chair. The 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:48.560 farther the story goes, I have had zero dinners with people. 1:04:48.880 --> 1:04:54.480 They think I really can think of none. That's just 1:04:54.560 --> 1:04:59.440 not my thing. Zero dinners. And Lee was like, come 1:04:59.520 --> 1:05:00.760 down for day and I was like, I'm coming down 1:05:00.760 --> 1:05:02.240 for dinner. He invited me first I have. I was 1:05:02.280 --> 1:05:04.520 by myself. I was like, hey, come down because my 1:05:04.680 --> 1:05:07.640 wife asked you. My wife at Tin Pan South says, 1:05:08.080 --> 1:05:09.720 I want you to come to my house for dinner 1:05:09.840 --> 1:05:11.919 like normal people. And I said I'm not a normal person. 1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:14.240 But you said yes. We just had never scheduled it. 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:16.800 You had never committed, and I didn't want to be 1:05:16.880 --> 1:05:20.040 the third will husband, wife and me. When I got 1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:21.919 a girlfriend, I was like, I'm in for dinner early. 1:05:22.480 --> 1:05:23.880 And so then we couldn't find a day and I 1:05:23.960 --> 1:05:26.240 was like, okay, we'll just figure it out some other time, 1:05:26.720 --> 1:05:28.960 and I was like, no, no, no. So we negotiated 1:05:29.000 --> 1:05:31.360 for about twenty minutes on dates and then went down 1:05:31.400 --> 1:05:32.800 and we had dinner until like ten o'clock. It was 1:05:32.880 --> 1:05:36.640 really a wonderful time, and my my girlfriend really liked 1:05:36.680 --> 1:05:39.600 you guys. So I did not get tired, I said, 1:05:39.840 --> 1:05:41.880 I said, okay, we stood up, we walked down the house, 1:05:42.320 --> 1:05:45.040 and we come back and the girls sat back down 1:05:45.080 --> 1:05:47.320 and continue talking. So I sit down, and you took 1:05:47.400 --> 1:05:49.560 that to me, and I was tired. I never remember 1:05:49.640 --> 1:05:54.680 touching my button. Yeah, okay, listen, in my mind things happen, 1:05:56.200 --> 1:05:58.240 but that we have the only dinner I think I've 1:05:58.240 --> 1:06:00.440 ever my gear thing me go to dinner on a 1:06:00.480 --> 1:06:04.360 weeknight ever. Yeah, I mean either man, he said, at 1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:07.040 a table with children and we all just we talked 1:06:07.040 --> 1:06:11.720 about live and part of that A girlfriend too, Like 1:06:12.520 --> 1:06:15.360 she's a great girlfriend too. She's she's a good hang. 1:06:15.600 --> 1:06:17.560 She makes me a normal human a little more than 1:06:17.600 --> 1:06:21.200 I am, because she's oddly she feels in your awkward silences, 1:06:22.360 --> 1:06:24.600 which is all it's all one big awkward violence, which 1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:27.520 means she talks and you're just kind of sitting Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:06:27.600 --> 1:06:31.040 so that was that was good. Frankie Baalodro al Camino. 1:06:31.680 --> 1:06:35.200 Who so you're a crestword Alchemino too. This is the 1:06:35.240 --> 1:06:37.600 title track to write of that record. In that record 1:06:37.760 --> 1:06:40.200 Comino or it's called like You'll pass over. No, it's 1:06:40.200 --> 1:06:46.000 called No, it's not the title is. It's something we're 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:51.960 shorting out over here, dude. Yeah, there's like whatever the 1:06:52.080 --> 1:06:54.840 name of it is. It's something. It's it's like a 1:06:54.960 --> 1:06:56.960 name of a Texas town. It's okay, that maybe why 1:06:56.960 --> 1:07:01.960 I think it's ALcom Rio or something. So you guys 1:07:02.000 --> 1:07:06.440 write the alchemyo it just you two? Hey, I think 1:07:06.520 --> 1:07:08.840 you don't. And I don't want to say any names. 1:07:08.840 --> 1:07:10.440 But what I want to get into once, I'm just 1:07:10.480 --> 1:07:13.080 asking his favorite. We ask favorites of each other. Whenever 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:14.400 you get like a really powerful right, I want to 1:07:14.400 --> 1:07:15.360 send in the room and that like a couple of 1:07:15.400 --> 1:07:17.800 words and let me get a third of that, right 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:21.280 you do? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it'll legitimate if nobody's ever 1:07:21.360 --> 1:07:26.320 thought about that before that happens. Right, does that happen? Um? 1:07:26.800 --> 1:07:29.080 I hear that it does. See, I would be so 1:07:29.360 --> 1:07:32.960 upset like that. I wouldn't be able to handle that. 1:07:33.480 --> 1:07:35.720 It's funny. I remember when I started, it was kind 1:07:35.760 --> 1:07:39.200 of a three way was kind of taboo. You needed 1:07:39.240 --> 1:07:41.360 it to be no more than two. Really, Yeah, I 1:07:41.440 --> 1:07:43.520 remember that. I remember there were people that wouldn't do 1:07:43.600 --> 1:07:47.439 a three way. That's crazy now because I know most 1:07:47.560 --> 1:07:49.560 rights are three people, or at least a lot of 1:07:49.640 --> 1:07:52.400 them are now. But that's all. That's also less money 1:07:52.400 --> 1:07:55.640 if it hits. That's dividing in three simple maths. So 1:07:55.680 --> 1:07:58.360 you're christ right every other Wednesday and in these you 1:07:58.440 --> 1:08:02.040 wrote those, all these songs like whiskey and you on 1:08:02.160 --> 1:08:05.200 these every other Wednesday. I probably had more cuts with 1:08:05.280 --> 1:08:08.640 Chris than I have had with anybody. And he's a 1:08:08.680 --> 1:08:12.560 good dude. Huh, wonderful I what I know of him, 1:08:12.600 --> 1:08:15.320 and I and I feel like I know him relatively 1:08:15.400 --> 1:08:18.479 well for how that time we sat together, just because 1:08:18.520 --> 1:08:20.760 he's been great to me and I was such a 1:08:21.680 --> 1:08:23.120 as a robber, just a fan of him as a writer. 1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:24.639 And I've been lucky enough to do on the radio. 1:08:24.680 --> 1:08:27.920 Should be fans of writers and talk about writers and 1:08:27.960 --> 1:08:30.519 bring writers in. And Chris was one of those guys. Um, 1:08:30.760 --> 1:08:34.479 Chris is quiet, and I think that before we get married, 1:08:34.479 --> 1:08:36.280 I felt like he. I think he's kind of got 1:08:36.560 --> 1:08:39.920 a dark side. I feel like that when he married Morgan, 1:08:40.640 --> 1:08:42.720 I think that that rounded him out and I think 1:08:42.800 --> 1:08:45.000 that I think that took the I think that took 1:08:45.080 --> 1:08:47.000 the dark way. I think he's I think he's a 1:08:47.120 --> 1:08:51.200 happy person. Um, he's a wonderful father. Uh. You know, 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:52.680 as I've very said, I've been in this town a 1:08:52.680 --> 1:08:54.639 long time and know a lot of musicians. Chris Stapleton 1:08:54.720 --> 1:08:58.040 is the most talented person I've ever worked with and 1:08:58.320 --> 1:09:02.000 always and that was before the world ever knew about it. 1:09:02.960 --> 1:09:05.880 He's the second next to Bobby Bones. He's the most 1:09:06.560 --> 1:09:09.080 on my throat. And I was just I am so 1:09:09.280 --> 1:09:15.160 embarrassed as a writer that you wrote today right before 1:09:15.200 --> 1:09:18.360 you came over here. I did, okay? Is that every idea? 1:09:18.400 --> 1:09:21.120 Do you drive someone right every day? Every day? Drive downtown? 1:09:21.680 --> 1:09:23.840 Because I love Music Row. I love driving into Music 1:09:23.960 --> 1:09:26.400 Row and drives my wife crazy. She says, you have 1:09:26.439 --> 1:09:27.840 a great space at home. Why don't you right here? 1:09:27.840 --> 1:09:29.160 And I was because I like to go to Music 1:09:29.280 --> 1:09:33.200 Row and work every day every sec it would be exhausting. 1:09:34.280 --> 1:09:36.400 Who do you like now? And not who do you 1:09:36.479 --> 1:09:37.560 not like it? But give me a couple people that 1:09:37.600 --> 1:09:39.840 you hear now that you're you're on the radio, maybe 1:09:39.840 --> 1:09:41.160 you have any relationship with them at all, and you're like, 1:09:41.240 --> 1:09:45.080 that's cool. I like that, Like uh like that. You 1:09:45.120 --> 1:09:47.240 don't have a personal relationship with Like you can't say 1:09:47.240 --> 1:09:50.040 about this Osborne. We both enjoyed them as humans, can't 1:09:50.080 --> 1:09:51.640 mention them. But you hear something on the radio and 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:55.600 you're like, that's pretty cool. We know what. I have 1:09:55.840 --> 1:09:58.640 never had a Kidney Jesney cut, and I am a 1:09:58.720 --> 1:10:02.800 Kidney Jesney fan. I love sitting the world. As I 1:10:02.920 --> 1:10:07.200 was talking to Kenny, we were man, I didn't know. 1:10:07.720 --> 1:10:10.040 He didn't tell me. See here's thinking about if he's 1:10:10.360 --> 1:10:13.400 every make you say you never make Kenny. I've met him, 1:10:14.479 --> 1:10:16.400 but you haven't. I don't know him. I've never hung I' 1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:18.320 gonna give you a couple of Kenny stories. So I 1:10:18.439 --> 1:10:20.920 have hung with him a few times. My work. It 1:10:21.120 --> 1:10:24.080 creates that atmosphere, and then if you actually get along 1:10:24.160 --> 1:10:26.360 with someone, you can still sit in the same room, 1:10:26.400 --> 1:10:27.840 and if you don't go back to your own rooms, 1:10:28.120 --> 1:10:29.760 and sometimes there artist and we just go back your 1:10:29.760 --> 1:10:32.640 own rooms. It's like humans not all humans mesh right. 1:10:33.400 --> 1:10:37.559 Kenny and I, for some reason get along. But Kenny 1:10:37.600 --> 1:10:41.639 has no filter, and I wouldn't have no filter around 1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:45.600 someone that had a big microphone. But I keep a 1:10:45.680 --> 1:10:48.360 lot of secrets too. I'm good like I know the difference. 1:10:48.400 --> 1:10:49.839 Why I can. I can't say it just I wouldn't 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:51.680 trust me until I was able to trust me. He's 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:55.840 always trusting me for some reason. So Kenny and I 1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:58.599 just the last time we were together. We're up, we're 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:02.479 on stage, and we've had three or four instance where 1:11:02.520 --> 1:11:04.080 we've been together for over an hour and a half 1:11:04.160 --> 1:11:07.439 or so, so we're comfortable with each other, and we're 1:11:07.479 --> 1:11:09.639 playing songs from his record, and there's a crowd watching 1:11:09.720 --> 1:11:12.320 and he that song that you like, and then I 1:11:12.439 --> 1:11:14.200 like to is it's an amazing song with Pink, and 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:15.760 what a great person to pick for that song Set 1:11:15.840 --> 1:11:18.000 in the World on Fire. Healans over and he goes, 1:11:18.560 --> 1:11:21.040 this was never gonna be a single ever. And I 1:11:21.160 --> 1:11:23.400 was like, why would you know, why would you cut 1:11:23.479 --> 1:11:25.840 up with a pop artist? You know why? He's like, 1:11:25.880 --> 1:11:29.120 I wanted it to be, but had she not gotten pregnant, 1:11:29.360 --> 1:11:30.680 this would never been a single because she was doing 1:11:30.720 --> 1:11:31.960 her own thing. And then we're gonna let us put 1:11:31.960 --> 1:11:34.160 it out because she had her songs out. You can't 1:11:34.160 --> 1:11:36.559 put a song out. I didn't know she had an 1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:39.800 announced that she was pregnant. He told me this O 1:11:40.040 --> 1:11:42.840 this like a month before. She hadn't she because she 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:44.720 just announced was pregnant like a week or so ago. 1:11:44.960 --> 1:11:47.479 As we're taping this right now. She just said she's pregnant, 1:11:47.600 --> 1:11:49.679 and I was like, oh my god. He never said, 1:11:49.720 --> 1:11:52.840 don't say anything about it. I never did, but it 1:11:52.920 --> 1:11:54.960 could have been a mess because he just threw it 1:11:55.000 --> 1:11:56.960 out there, like, oh, yeah, she was pregnant, and had 1:11:57.000 --> 1:11:58.960 she not gotten pregnant, we'd never got to cut this song. 1:11:59.200 --> 1:12:01.720 And I'm like, oh, that's cool. Had it come up 1:12:01.760 --> 1:12:04.120 in conversation and may have said something about it, because 1:12:04.160 --> 1:12:06.920 he didn't say, hey, don't off the record, hey don't 1:12:06.960 --> 1:12:10.160 say this, so that song would have never been on 1:12:10.280 --> 1:12:11.920 the radio. It was never when they cut it, it 1:12:11.960 --> 1:12:14.040 was never going to be on the radio. But because 1:12:14.120 --> 1:12:15.880 she got pregnant, was like, I'm gonna pull myself off. 1:12:16.479 --> 1:12:18.840 They got to put it out as a single, So 1:12:19.560 --> 1:12:21.920 I thought that was pretty cool. There was another one 1:12:22.560 --> 1:12:25.000 because he just says stuff and you're like, did you 1:12:25.120 --> 1:12:29.200 say that? And like that I have another good game. 1:12:29.280 --> 1:12:32.080 What's my other trusting? But why, man, I don't know, 1:12:32.080 --> 1:12:35.360 why would trust me though of all people? Because I'm 1:12:35.400 --> 1:12:38.320 known because I don't have a big mouth, but I 1:12:38.400 --> 1:12:40.320 say my feelings and those two things kind of get 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:44.720 mixed up. Yeah, I mean, I think that was dice. 1:12:44.760 --> 1:12:46.160 So you could have messed up because you could have 1:12:46.200 --> 1:12:48.600 just assumed that everybody knew. I did assume that. It 1:12:48.640 --> 1:12:50.200 just didn't come up in a conversation because I would 1:12:50.200 --> 1:12:52.000 have got lucky on that. I would have said something. 1:12:52.720 --> 1:12:55.479 Um Man had another good kidney story too from that night. Better. 1:12:55.520 --> 1:12:57.840 I don't know, forgot who knows. I've been talking on 1:12:58.040 --> 1:13:01.000 today for like eleven hours. I dig Aaron Morris. Yeah 1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:04.800 it's awesome. Huh Yeah, I think she's very real. I 1:13:04.960 --> 1:13:08.960 met her again before before Chris blew up. I was 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:10.920 on the road riding with him and she opened a 1:13:10.960 --> 1:13:12.800 show for him with this little this little bar in 1:13:12.880 --> 1:13:15.040 Atlanta and for some of my for seen her and 1:13:15.120 --> 1:13:17.599 she just was so amazing. She was so sweet. And then, uh, 1:13:18.320 --> 1:13:22.800 it's funny, last summer vacation, family vacation. Um, I'd taken 1:13:22.880 --> 1:13:24.400 my oldest just meet him to the rock and roll 1:13:24.640 --> 1:13:27.040 Museum in Cleveland and we're sitting in the in the 1:13:27.200 --> 1:13:29.920 cafe eating a sandwich in the at the Rock and 1:13:30.080 --> 1:13:34.920 Roll Hall of Fame, random and Marion Morris walks in 1:13:34.960 --> 1:13:36.880 the system and eats a salad and I said, what 1:13:37.000 --> 1:13:39.120 are you doing? And she was in town with the 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:41.280 Keith Urban Concert and she was just going through the 1:13:41.840 --> 1:13:44.479 Hall of Fame. And it's funny now, she probably couldn't 1:13:44.479 --> 1:13:46.560 have walked through the Everybody go crazy. But you know, 1:13:47.560 --> 1:13:49.560 I think the weird thing about Marion, and I know 1:13:49.880 --> 1:13:52.519 I've the same way. You know, Marion and I were 1:13:52.560 --> 1:13:55.640 cool before Marion blew up and I had her on 1:13:55.680 --> 1:13:58.640 the show before she hadn't be download. I thought, man, 1:13:59.280 --> 1:14:04.400 she's really good. And so she still goes to Walmart 1:14:04.479 --> 1:14:08.800 and stuff like she that's part Nashville too. I think 1:14:08.840 --> 1:14:10.599 you can get away with stuff in Nashville that maybe 1:14:10.760 --> 1:14:13.080 you can't some places. And I think if people go 1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:16.599 this is Mary Morris, everybody freaks out. But yeah, she's 1:14:16.680 --> 1:14:21.320 and Marin's real deal. Yah, she's gonna be pretty recognizable though. 1:14:21.520 --> 1:14:23.960 I mean, she she's gonna be hard. You know, Yeah, 1:14:24.040 --> 1:14:26.719 you're a fan, you're gonna, oh that's her. She's also 1:14:26.880 --> 1:14:29.280 going to be the new and she already kind of 1:14:29.439 --> 1:14:33.560 is because our record was so critically acclaimed because it 1:14:33.680 --> 1:14:36.200 was so good. Sometimes records get big because they're just big. 1:14:36.240 --> 1:14:38.599 They're big on the radio. But her record was critically 1:14:38.640 --> 1:14:42.559 acclaimed because it was so good. And like my Church 1:14:42.720 --> 1:14:46.840 wasn't a number one song, and AI's Mercedes probably thinking 1:14:46.960 --> 1:14:48.960 be number one song, but the record is so good, 1:14:49.280 --> 1:14:51.320 like it doesn't matter. It's like when we go back 1:14:51.400 --> 1:14:54.000 to you know, talking about in color, like you don't 1:14:54.000 --> 1:14:56.320 even know remember what was number one? My daughter is 1:14:56.360 --> 1:14:59.160 no ever song on that record, ever word of ever song. Yeah, 1:14:59.240 --> 1:15:02.200 me too, And I don't listen records. I'm they I 1:15:02.280 --> 1:15:06.080 just don't know what I mean. Really, nobody does anymore 1:15:06.160 --> 1:15:10.479 unless it's your favorite artist. Yeah. But it's also that 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:13.880 it's a generational thing because we're able to get music 1:15:13.960 --> 1:15:15.840 one at a time. When I was young, young, you 1:15:15.880 --> 1:15:17.160 didn't get music one of a time when you went 1:15:17.200 --> 1:15:18.439 to the storm and bought the single on tape and 1:15:18.439 --> 1:15:20.400 there was another side of it too, and that was 1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:22.760 when I was young. But if you give someone the 1:15:22.800 --> 1:15:25.120 option to not buy thirteen songs, we're not We're gonna 1:15:25.120 --> 1:15:26.439 buy them one at a time. Of what we like 1:15:26.520 --> 1:15:27.920 that would we like the next one? It would we 1:15:27.960 --> 1:15:30.000 like the next one? Oh, we like the next one? 1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:33.479 And so you end up not buying every song unless 1:15:33.520 --> 1:15:35.519 it's your favorite artist. But Marin's record, yeah, I know 1:15:35.560 --> 1:15:37.479 all the songs too. It's fantastic. She also is one 1:15:37.520 --> 1:15:41.639 of those artists too. We have a pretty good text relationships. 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:43.280 I just have textual That's what I talked I talked 1:15:43.280 --> 1:15:45.360 to about the text. I don't like talking on the phone, don't. 1:15:46.000 --> 1:15:48.240 I mean, I an't talked about Lindsay on the phone. 1:15:48.560 --> 1:15:50.840 It's spacetime or it's I'll see you you know, wherever. 1:15:51.560 --> 1:15:54.479 But Marin's so cool, like a appreciate you're not coddling 1:15:54.840 --> 1:15:59.519 me ever, appreciate you like because she's real, Like it's 1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:03.240 real as she's seems. That's her. Did I see there's 1:16:03.240 --> 1:16:06.240 anything else up here? How about a little with his 1:16:06.360 --> 1:16:13.360 hands Ken Melon's build man, Well you know about that, right, definitely. 1:16:14.640 --> 1:16:20.840 That's one of my first cuts up or that's like, yeah, 1:16:21.479 --> 1:16:29.280 he'll never be a lawyer college. I think that might 1:16:29.320 --> 1:16:32.040 have been my first cut. Ever, he'll never be a lawyer. 1:16:33.160 --> 1:16:36.960 Be star, but he'll never be a lawyer. College game 1:16:37.200 --> 1:16:40.280 passive bar, Come on, is that coming back? That sound 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:43.360 coming back? That's funny for some. My theory is, and 1:16:43.520 --> 1:16:48.360 what's happening with the format musically is country, first of all, 1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:51.160 is getting so big that it's going to turn into 1:16:51.280 --> 1:16:53.559 what Top forty is. Not not a style because Top 1:16:53.600 --> 1:16:56.240 forty is always evolving, but what it's going to happen 1:16:56.400 --> 1:16:59.559 is country. As Top forty has done, Top forty has 1:16:59.600 --> 1:17:01.599 a couple of best pop songs, while the couple best 1:17:01.640 --> 1:17:03.479 hip hop song is a couple of best rock songs. 1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:07.240 And that's the the mesh that is Top forty. Country 1:17:07.280 --> 1:17:08.280 is gonna be the same way. You're gonna have a 1:17:08.280 --> 1:17:09.920 couple of the best guys that sound classic, the classic 1:17:09.920 --> 1:17:11.200 country sound. You can have a couple of the guys 1:17:11.200 --> 1:17:14.320 that sound way progressive like the Sam's of the world. 1:17:14.479 --> 1:17:16.720 You're gonna have a couple of the females and it's 1:17:16.760 --> 1:17:19.360 they're gonna be all these little lanes and it's gonna 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:21.000 be the top couple to three of each lane is 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:24.960 gonna be what makes it onto the country radio. No, no, 1:17:25.040 --> 1:17:27.840 but it's happening. Well, they're not gonna split it right 1:17:27.880 --> 1:17:29.439 now that they've split it into two in the last 1:17:29.479 --> 1:17:34.200 few years of older. With the Legends and Icon brand, 1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:36.280 they have older stations, and what's funny is older tations 1:17:36.320 --> 1:17:38.680 are awesome, Like it's like the good stuff, you know, 1:17:38.840 --> 1:17:41.400 the nineties stuff. It's not even like the fifties stuff 1:17:41.400 --> 1:17:44.120 because they had classic country stations. But now these older 1:17:44.160 --> 1:17:47.720 stations are nineties and some eighties and a little early 1:17:47.800 --> 1:17:50.519 two thousands, and those are like my favorite of the thing. 1:17:51.080 --> 1:17:53.599 You have a Randy Travis cutt on that Yeah, here 1:17:53.720 --> 1:17:57.040 is hold on, here's leaves, Randy Travis cut you want 1:17:57.040 --> 1:17:59.360 to set it up. It's just it's one of the 1:17:59.439 --> 1:18:01.400 only ones that ever heard that. When they called me 1:18:01.439 --> 1:18:03.560 into the label to play it for me, stop but 1:18:08.000 --> 1:18:11.920 I was gonna say it made me cry. You know what, 1:18:12.040 --> 1:18:15.560 you stomped spy Family Bible and the Farmer's alving that 1:18:16.200 --> 1:18:18.840 I don't have that one, only Randy Travis Cut, but 1:18:19.240 --> 1:18:23.280 I got one. My was my grandma's favorite artist, Randy 1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:25.960 Travis Johnny Cash because it was from Arkansas. So this 1:18:26.040 --> 1:18:28.080 is what rubbed alph on me. You know what your 1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:31.040 parents listened to. And I have a strong parental system, 1:18:31.120 --> 1:18:32.920 so my grandma did a lot of the raising of me. 1:18:33.479 --> 1:18:35.799 And so my grandma with my mom basically even adopt 1:18:35.880 --> 1:18:37.760 me for a while as a kid. But she it 1:18:37.960 --> 1:18:41.160 was Johnny Cash. Here is from Arkansas, and if you're 1:18:41.200 --> 1:18:43.759 from Arkansas, people from marketsall that make it, they're your heroes. 1:18:44.479 --> 1:18:46.080 So it was Johnny and she would tell me stories 1:18:46.080 --> 1:18:49.040 about how people would protest Johnny Cash because that's not country, 1:18:49.080 --> 1:18:52.240 that's rock and roll, and people would be out just furious. 1:18:52.680 --> 1:18:54.120 It just reminds me of what people are doing on 1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:57.280 blogs now about what's happening at country music, everything sexical, 1:18:57.400 --> 1:19:03.360 every constantly that Randy Travis, Ray Charles and Andy Griffith 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:06.320 gospel albums. I mean as I wasn't to do all. 1:19:06.640 --> 1:19:08.320 I mean all that, I hear it and it makes 1:19:08.360 --> 1:19:09.800 me a lot of my grandma so much. But then 1:19:09.800 --> 1:19:11.920 I remember being so just annoyed, like can we place 1:19:12.000 --> 1:19:15.000 us into something else on records? But yet now I 1:19:15.080 --> 1:19:17.519 appreciate it. Then I was like, is this all we got? 1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:20.080 You know? I was a teenager through all the great 1:19:20.160 --> 1:19:23.240 eighties music, all the great eighties pop music, and uh 1:19:23.800 --> 1:19:27.599 I was listening to Gene Watson and Alabama and even 1:19:27.720 --> 1:19:32.960 now we'll be somewhere and some you know, amazing song 1:19:33.040 --> 1:19:37.679 from five will come on somewhere and some print song 1:19:38.400 --> 1:19:40.240 or some band that I've never even heard of. There 1:19:40.320 --> 1:19:42.800 was a huge hit. My wife on aever word and 1:19:42.960 --> 1:19:46.519 she'll say, do you seriously not know this song? It's 1:19:46.520 --> 1:19:48.720 just it's just this was probably the theme to your 1:19:48.800 --> 1:19:52.080 prom and I'm like, I was listening to Gene Watson, babe. 1:19:52.720 --> 1:19:57.320 I'm sorry. So just to recap, we have lots of 1:19:57.360 --> 1:20:01.640 good songs, and you're pretty funny. You did a lot 1:20:01.680 --> 1:20:06.120 of show prep too. I'm impressed. Yeah, yeah, I mean 1:20:06.200 --> 1:20:07.879 this is the thing I do. This is like my profession. 1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:11.160 You know how you write songs today? That's what you do. 1:20:11.320 --> 1:20:13.760 That's what I do. You look tired when I came out. 1:20:13.800 --> 1:20:15.800 I'm tired, all done? What if I ever not looked tired? 1:20:15.920 --> 1:20:17.759 Are you tired all the time? But you never sleep? 1:20:17.880 --> 1:20:22.960 Is there any way? That's why I'm always tired. You'll 1:20:23.000 --> 1:20:24.640 text me at ten o'clock and I'm like, You've got 1:20:24.720 --> 1:20:28.120 to get up like now. But if I didn't do 1:20:28.360 --> 1:20:32.680 I loved, I wouldn't be able to do it like this. 1:20:32.960 --> 1:20:34.439 I love what I do because like you love what 1:20:34.520 --> 1:20:38.160 you do. Why were you dressed like an elf? Last week? 1:20:40.760 --> 1:20:42.559 I wasn't Was that what it like Elf. Last week 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:46.680 for something you were somewhere doing it was like a 1:20:46.720 --> 1:20:48.519 brad Pitt. I was weekly cover or something. It was 1:20:48.560 --> 1:20:51.439 either you're Brad Pitt dressed like an ELF doing something 1:20:51.560 --> 1:20:54.680 in somewhere because you're gone all the time. You were 1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:57.000 because you sent me back something funny about being and Elf. 1:20:58.320 --> 1:21:00.840 I don't know. There's a lot of days ago. Well, 1:21:01.520 --> 1:21:05.280 I appreciate you coming in and sharing your stories. Are 1:21:05.320 --> 1:21:08.080 good ones? Are They're good? Yeah, they're good. My favorite 1:21:08.080 --> 1:21:09.599 one you didn't tell. I want to tell this one 1:21:10.000 --> 1:21:14.679 and if a normal story, tell this that ad because 1:21:14.880 --> 1:21:18.479 running out of time, you go up, let me tell 1:21:18.520 --> 1:21:21.160 it fast. Now it's I don't even want to give 1:21:21.200 --> 1:21:24.519 any sort of spoiler here, but tell the story about 1:21:24.560 --> 1:21:26.800 how the soup. I'll just say the soup and let 1:21:26.880 --> 1:21:30.120 you tell the story the soup. Yeah, the TV show 1:21:30.160 --> 1:21:32.560 the soup. That'd be fun of you. Oh. So, I 1:21:35.200 --> 1:21:37.120 we get to our seats at the a c M Awards. 1:21:37.160 --> 1:21:40.920 I was still thinking we might win for uh because 1:21:40.960 --> 1:21:42.560 again I had two two songs up the Song of 1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:45.040 the Year they c MS in Vegas. And I get 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:46.960 to my seat and we're on the twentie row in 1:21:47.080 --> 1:21:50.960 the middle right and talk soup. That's what you're saying. 1:21:51.200 --> 1:21:52.640 And um oh yeah, to not call the sup you 1:21:52.680 --> 1:21:56.320 should be all talking. So m I'm like, we're not 1:21:56.360 --> 1:21:58.120 gonna win. There's what we're gonna win because there's no 1:21:58.160 --> 1:22:01.000 way they would put the winner here because terrible seats right. 1:22:01.080 --> 1:22:04.000 And I'm bommed, and I'm like, this is so depressing 1:22:04.080 --> 1:22:08.479 and and and uh. I kind of worked through my 1:22:08.600 --> 1:22:10.400 mind because I always like to be prepared if I 1:22:10.520 --> 1:22:12.360 if I don't want to, I'm not afraid to do 1:22:12.439 --> 1:22:14.479 public speaking, but I need to know what I'm gonna 1:22:14.520 --> 1:22:16.880 say and just in case I win. So so then 1:22:17.800 --> 1:22:21.240 Jennifer Lovewett is giving the award away and she calls 1:22:21.280 --> 1:22:23.120 her name and we want in color one song or 1:22:23.160 --> 1:22:25.080 the year, and she calls my name and I run, 1:22:25.160 --> 1:22:26.920 you know. I go down there and I'm so pumped. 1:22:26.920 --> 1:22:30.360 I'm so excited, and I'm so nervous, and I'm on stage. 1:22:30.400 --> 1:22:32.479 I'm standing next to Jennifer love You and Jamie Johnson 1:22:32.520 --> 1:22:34.320 does this little spiel and usually they don't give you 1:22:34.439 --> 1:22:36.040 much time, but they let Jamie speak, and then they 1:22:36.160 --> 1:22:39.320 let James speak, and so then I step up and 1:22:39.400 --> 1:22:42.880 in front of all the world, and National Television. I said, 1:22:43.520 --> 1:22:46.639 I want to thank my wife. I want to thank 1:22:46.760 --> 1:22:53.280 my kids. Levi Noah, Levi, No that's not right. Everybody laughs. 1:22:54.360 --> 1:22:56.800 So then I continued my speech. I walk off stage. 1:22:56.840 --> 1:22:59.519 I'm nervous, I'm freaking out. In the next morning, um, 1:22:59.800 --> 1:23:03.080 the soup people were doing the the Yahoo Entertainment clip 1:23:03.120 --> 1:23:04.960 of the week and it was like eight thirty the 1:23:05.040 --> 1:23:08.400 next morning, gets everywhere right. Country Music Awards were held 1:23:08.479 --> 1:23:11.280 last night in Las Vegas, Nevada. Check this guy out. 1:23:12.280 --> 1:23:14.519 It's me. I wanna I want to thank my wife. 1:23:15.320 --> 1:23:18.120 I want to thank my kids. Levi no, Levi, No, 1:23:18.320 --> 1:23:22.559 that's not right. This guy is so country. He has 1:23:22.680 --> 1:23:28.760 not one but two kids named Levi. Hey, here my 1:23:28.880 --> 1:23:33.360 gay question before we jump. You're good. All of it 1:23:33.880 --> 1:23:40.600 squeezed out. Lee Thomas Miller, that's his name, I just 1:23:40.720 --> 1:23:44.600 call him. Hey, dude. Well, thank you for having me. 1:23:44.720 --> 1:23:47.400 Thanks man, I appreciate it. Thanks for the stories. All right. 1:23:47.479 --> 1:23:49.720 So that's episode twenty five. Thanks for hanging out here 1:23:49.800 --> 1:23:52.599 on the Bobby Cast. I hope you'll learn a little 1:23:52.600 --> 1:23:54.080 something and we'll see you guys next night. Thanks guys,