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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio on the first Saturday of May. You're invited

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Speaker 1: You don't want to miss. Kentucky Derby Saturday to thirty

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Speaker 1: Eastern on NBC streaming on Petcock. Welcome to the Final Hour.

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Speaker 1: It'll be busy. We'll talk to the former NFL quarterback

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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, name, image and likeness. Also we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the role of the starting quarterback and that of a

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Speaker 1: mentor to a rookie or younger quarterback coming in. Mark

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Speaker 1: has some interesting things to say about that. Jim Jackson

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Speaker 1: on an old school series between Memphis and Golden State.

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Speaker 1: There's no basketball coming up tonight. Also, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk to Jim Jackson about what happened with the Lakers

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Speaker 1: bringing in Phil Jackson to help them find a head coach.

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Speaker 1: Phil doesn't have a good track record at finding head

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Speaker 1: coaches here. But here's the problem. Can't find himself. It's

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Speaker 1: not Phil Jackson's not walking through that door. And I

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Speaker 1: still believe if I'm Lebron, I got to look at

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Speaker 1: this and say I don't get along with Phil Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Remember Phil had the posse line about Lebron James and

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Speaker 1: then that relationship, whatever it was, got frosty. But who

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Speaker 1: are they going to bring in? And is that somebody

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Speaker 1: that is best for the Lakers, is at best for Lebron?

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Speaker 1: What happens to Russell Westbrook? And at what point does

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Speaker 1: Lebron go? You know what's best for both of us.

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Speaker 1: I go someplace else and maybe he could land in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and that might take some mending fences too with

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Speaker 1: that owner Dan Gilbert age seven seven three d P

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Speaker 1: Show Email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter

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Speaker 1: handle at DP show. We were just watching a clip,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're watching on Peacock during the commercial breaks,

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Speaker 1: we show old clips, archival footage, interviews and we had

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Speaker 1: ice Cube on. He joined us in Los Angeles when

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Speaker 1: we were out there. I don't know how many years

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Speaker 1: ago that was, but we played Rapped Jeopardy with him,

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Speaker 1: and we had Rapped Jeopardy with his songs and he

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Speaker 1: still had a hard time remembering some of the lyrics.

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Speaker 1: And and then there would be times when I say, look,

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Speaker 1: you've got to answer in the form of a question yes,

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Speaker 1: and he would ice here would go the SuperSonics, and

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Speaker 1: I would jump in and go, what is the SuperSonics? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think we did rapp jepardy with Klais Campbell and

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Speaker 1: uh and uh Chuck d from Public Enemy. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they did what Klais Campbell was not good at all.

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Speaker 1: He finished wrong, But I think it was like, uh,

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Speaker 1: run DM and then he can't he even go I

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Speaker 1: don't know who that is. I like to risk message

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Speaker 1: no sleep till I don't know who that is till

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Speaker 1: we go to bid. Yeah, but one of us would

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Speaker 1: answer what is until Brooklyn? Yes, Yes, Todd's trying to

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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez here, so he was the one that was

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Speaker 1: the star. Fritzie loves Rap Jeopardy. When you uh you

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Speaker 1: read a lyric a lone. Nothing better than four white

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Speaker 1: guys reading rap lyrics to a rapper, like you should

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Speaker 1: have had a TV show, Dan, you should have made

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Speaker 1: it to a t I know we tried to uh Todd, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: rap Jeopardy. I love that. Yeah, like no sleep till

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Speaker 1: this borrow run DM blank. Okay, is Mark Sanchez going

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Speaker 1: to join us? He's on the line right now as

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Speaker 1: oh he is okay. Uh hi Mark the Fox analyst

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Speaker 1: and a former NFL quarterback and at usc um great

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. We wanted to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about Ryan Tannehill's comments. Let me play it and then

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Speaker 1: I'll get your thoughts on it's he oh oh Sanchez. Okay,

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Speaker 1: my bad, my bad. As Fritzie said, we need he

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Speaker 1: says on skoo, Wow that Mark s I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Mark said he's sorry, Yeah, sorry

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Speaker 1: about that? Was was this? Was this a token interview? Wow?

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Speaker 1: That's what That's the way I thought. I'm sorry, Mark.

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Speaker 1: I am so sorry Mark that I didn't know that. Fritzie,

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Speaker 1: you know that this was a token interview. Do you

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Speaker 1: celebrate sinko to myo? Okay, do you do you celebrate? No,

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Speaker 1: it's more of a it's honestly become more of an

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Speaker 1: But uh, Mexican Independence Day is like September fifteenth, I

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Speaker 1: a big fight. That's I'm singular, Miles. Just one battle.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like like you go to Mexico today.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mark, thank you, that's all we wanted to

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Speaker 1: same tape, we're doing the same drills. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's my job to mentor him, but you know, if

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Speaker 1: and I'm happy to do it whether it's true or not.

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Speaker 1: You just sound like a complete pushover and a total

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Speaker 1: What a villain, you know, what a jerk? And it's

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Speaker 1: But when you're the backup, you know, you're you're fighting

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Speaker 1: exactly you gotta mentor this guy. And I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: So I want to ask you about name, image and likeness.

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Speaker 1: know that the downside if there is of name, image

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Speaker 1: and likeness, well, right now, I guess it's just kind

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Speaker 1: of not real rules. I heard something about some task assembled.

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Speaker 1: with some rules around here because guys, you know, you

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Speaker 1: that had to work his way to get to where

423
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: he's at, not as physically gifted as a lot of players,

424
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: So he had to use the thing in between his ears.

425
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: He had to play more physical, He had to play

426
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: a different brand of basketball in order to be successful.

427
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: The league worked out perfect in regards to it being

428
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: a smaller league for Draymond to really compete at that

429
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: poor position. He figured it out as well as anybody

430
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: will be one day a Hall of Famer. And you're

431
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: right that his antics a lot of times overshadow how

432
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: intelligent a basketball player he is. And I'm sure that

433
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: even Golden State fan get frustrated with Draymond at time

434
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: because kind of like a Patrick Beverley, over emphasis on

435
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: being the tough guy and making a hard place can

436
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: come back to hurt the team at times of critical

437
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: junctures of the game, And as a coach, it's like, okay,

438
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: what's damn what's that bottom line? What's that dray area?

439
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: Where I'm like, okay, Dre, I want you to be you,

440
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: but I don't need you to be you in this

441
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: situation because it comes back to hurt it. That's the

442
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: dilemma you face when you have a sense player like

443
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: a Draymond Green that you got allowed to be himself.

444
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: But if he crosses that line against one more flagrant too,

445
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: guess what he's out And that totally changes how we

446
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: saw and say operates defensively importantly how they operate offensively.

447
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: We're talking to Jim Jackson, NBA on TNT, also Fox analyst.

448
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: He'll be on the call Monday at ten Eastern game

449
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: four Warriors and the Grizzlies. Did you call out John

450
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: Morant for the game winning shot when he carried the

451
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: ball and took four or five steps there? I mean,

452
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: at some point it becomes laughable, Jim that, and I'm

453
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: not doing old school as much as I'm doing No. No,

454
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be able to have your hand under the ball.

455
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: And then he took at least four steps two and

456
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: a half in a quarter. No, did he travel? If that?

457
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 1: If that is, if that game is in San Francisco,

458
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: is it called a travel? Who the referee CRUI is?

459
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: Because it was a play that stepped me basically took

460
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: the ball over top of the defender, which is a carry.

461
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: They didn't call it. So we can go back in

462
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: between the game and figure out some plays in between

463
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: where it was a carry as a travel, it was

464
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: a charge, it was walk, it was a box. But

465
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: are they more likely to call a travel or a

466
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: carry now in the NBA? Good question. I mean, that's dan.

467
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: That's a good question, because they don't call either. No. No,

468
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: they don't call it either. That's the answer. Here's the thing.

469
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: The whole thing is gonna be consistency if this is

470
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: how you're going, And I think players and coaches want

471
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: this from official and officials have a tough job because

472
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: they're graded out each and every game. In order to

473
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: get to this part of the playoffs, you know, you

474
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: got to have a certain amount of points lined up

475
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: in order to build up to get to referee to

476
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: official a playoff game. Let along the champion and you

477
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: know that was a carry and you know it was

478
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: a travel you know, and I know it was a carry,

479
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: and I know it's a travel sology apology. The official

480
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: doesn't call it. It wasn't violation nothing, right, Okay, Phil

481
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: Jackson's role with the Lakers. You're gonna bring him in

482
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: to pick your next head coach. What does this mean

483
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: for Lebron's future in Los Angeles? Importantly, how much control

484
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: is the Lakers front office is going to have with

485
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: the coach they pick. See, here's the challenge with the Lakers.

486
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: Jerry Bust did a phenomenal job of building You notice

487
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: from the beginning, building stars because he wanted to have

488
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: star power because this is La. So the Lakers, you know,

489
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: are enamored with name on the back of the jersey

490
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot of time instead of fit. Whether that's from

491
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: a coaching perspective or from the players. Think about it,

492
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 1: when Mike D'Antoni came and they got Dwight Howard, that

493
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a fit. But Dwight Howard had a name, he

494
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: hit a brand. Dwight Howard didn't fit in Mike D'Antoni system.

495
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: There's no way that was gonna work. So the question

496
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: is going to be allow the coach that you bring

497
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: in to actually have some construction control where it's gonna

498
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: fit and it's gonna work, because if not, then you're

499
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: going to bring in another coach that you kind of

500
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 1: kind of forced pieces to have to fit based on manager.

501
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: And that's the issue with the lady who it is

502
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: you don't bring into ty Lou. He's won a championship,

503
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: he's been trusted by Lebron James, but you want to

504
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: offer him a three year deal and you want to

505
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: actually kind of pick and choose his coaching side. Come on,

506
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the challenge you have, and that's why

507
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: the Laker job is so difficult, just based around the

508
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: philosophies in the front office. They've done it right for

509
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: a long time, but they've also done it wrong. This

510
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: is going to be very interesting to see fields role

511
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: and who ultimately choose to leave their franchise moving forward,

512
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: how much power that coach has over again, roster contruction.

513
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: I just don't see Lebron sticking around for this. I

514
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: just don't you know. You look around, they don't have

515
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: any depth. They got Westbrook and a D What else

516
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: do you have in the west. You know, Alicins, get

517
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: Zion back, You're gonna have the Sons. They're still there,

518
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: even though Chris gets a year older. Golden State is

519
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: still there, Denver and everybody, Yes, you got all of

520
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: this and I going to be better. Yeah, you have

521
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: to look around and go, I'm not gonna win another championship.

522
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: Does Lebron then say I gotta go? You know, it's

523
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: tough to dig into the mind of what he thinks

524
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: because he's always calculating what the next move is. And

525
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: you know they don't have salary cap. They have salary

526
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: cap restricted too, no draft picks, so that's why they

527
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: had to build the roster the way they did with

528
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: one year contracts this year and try to trade to

529
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: get a Westbrook in order for it to fit. The

530
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: challenge is moving forward. It's like, Okay, can't move, that's

531
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: going to be a challenge. He is tough because of injury.

532
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: And if we do move that, who's our future Because

533
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: there's always have to be a star something there in LA,

534
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: they are trapped. I don't know what Lebron's ultimate goal

535
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: is because it's a moving target in regards to where

536
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: he wants to be in his career. Okay, because LA

537
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: was the next step I think in his legacy. He's

538
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: won a championship, even though the astrid part of it

539
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: it was the bubble. He's out in LA for other

540
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: alternative things business wise, which I'm not mad at. But

541
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: his mind is always calculating, thinking about what's next. And

542
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure he and Rich Paul have talked about this

543
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: numerous times of what it's going to look like next year,

544
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: what is this team going to look like? And I'm

545
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: sure as Ad is being part of the fold. As

546
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: far as being clutched, there's a trepidation there as far

547
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: as man Ad had to stay healthy. That's the only

548
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: way we can get this thing done. We don't have

549
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: a point guard in regards to how it fits. So

550
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very interest to see the language, the communication,

551
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: what comes out, you know, after the finals, leading up

552
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: to the draft and free agency. What's gonna happen with

553
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: this team? But well, Lebron, I just don't know where

554
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: the calculation is. I don't think he's had thoughts where

555
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 1: he's at right now. If you're watching on Peacock, you

556
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: can see that Jim Jackson has quite a few sneakers

557
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: behind him, so that I like free I like free stuff. Man. Okay,

558
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: you know, let's do let's do a guess here of

559
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: how many shoes Jim Jackson has, Um Seaton, I'll start

560
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: with you, how many pairs. I'm gonna say one hundred

561
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: and seventy five? One seventy five? Marv? What do you think?

562
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say? Two fifty two fifty? Oh, Marv, I

563
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: like my man, Marv Paulie in this room or total

564
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: in that room? Uh, one hundred and five? All right,

565
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: Fritzie three? Um, can you give us a look around

566
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: with your computer? There the problem is you can't see

567
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: that door that's closed right there. Oh oh there's shoes. Okay, okay,

568
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: so that's the hitting door right there. Okay, and then

569
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: as some on the side floor in boxes. Yeah, I'm

570
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: not PJ. Tucker, though his shoe collection is ridiculous. He

571
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: has custom shoes. I'm not that young. I just like

572
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: my Dedas, my Nikes, you know, my workout shoes. He

573
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: gets the custom stuff and different designs on it. I'm

574
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more playing. I'm older man, So I'm

575
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna say, uh, I'm gonna say three hundred

576
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: pairs of tennis shoes, clothes. I don't know. I don't

577
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know the number. We'll give me

578
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: a guess, two fifty, okay, and that's it. That's a

579
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: rough estimation because I continue to get more. And it's

580
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: just that I love sneakers, you know what I mean.

581
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: But if you had to grab one pair to get

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Speaker 1: out of the house, oh, I'm gonna do. I'm always

583
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm a head shorts Air Force one always.

584
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: Because diversity didn't go in anything. Okay, so there's no

585
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: special ones like Jordan gave you a pair of shoes

586
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: or any of that, Kobe, any any of those things. No, no, no,

587
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: but those wouldn't be worn if they gave him. I

588
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: knew you got to get out of the house with

589
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: one pair. Oh all you mean is I just got

590
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: to lead? Yeah, like that's you only get to save

591
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: one pair of shoes. It ain't that important to me.

592
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm getting out the house. No, hell no, Jim, you're

593
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: getting out of the house. Oh I thought you like

594
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: I had to get out Like, no, no, no, you're

595
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: getting out of the house. Yeah, I'm not setting the

596
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: house on fire. I'm saying you're okay. I thought you

597
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: I thought you were kicking me out, said no, no,

598
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no. No hypothetical one pair of shoes

599
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: to get out of the house with, man um, what

600
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: if it was one pair? Probably do the Carolina blue.

601
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: These are all all my favorite George Man, those are nice.

602
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah right here. You should have gotten Jordan to autograph those. No,

603
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: had enough encounters with him doing what he signed the

604
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: shoes if you asked him. Oh yeah, he Mike and

605
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: I you know, here's a funny story about the shoes.

606
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm playing for the nets and we beat them. This

607
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: is ninety six ninety seven years we beat them in

608
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: New Jersey, New Jersey. So we go to Chicago to play.

609
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Some people told the story if they didn't tell it right,

610
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: So we're playing. They won't get back because we beat them.

611
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: Sam Kinsell and I had a really good game. So

612
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: Mike and I are going back and forth just talking.

613
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: You can't guard me, I can't guard you. Blah blah blah.

614
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: We're going back. We lose the game. I had thirty three,

615
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: Mike had thirty seven. So we're going through the line

616
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: to shake hands afterwards, and Joe Klein, that played for

617
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: the Bulls before, pulls Mike to the side says, Mike,

618
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: then leave my man, JJ my give him. Mike said, no,

619
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Speaker 1: JJ my guy, but tell him that's why you're wearing

620
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: my shoes. It is weird to play against the guy

621
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: you're wearing his shoes. Jim, Hello, hello trash right, what

622
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: jump man? Don't? I said, I'm gonna continue to wear

623
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: them too, So what so, But that's that's my Jordan

624
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: story on the shoes, because that right there was the comeback.

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Speaker 1: I'm all t thank thank you, Jim as always great

626
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: to talk to you, buddy. Okay, good talk to you.

627
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Speaker 1: Same travels. Jim Jackson NBA on TNT. On the call

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Speaker 1: Monday Game four with Ion Eagle and Jared Greenberg. That'll

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Speaker 1: be on TNT. We'll close up shop after the Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon

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