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Speaker 1: Just three old friends sitting around the living room, you know,

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Speaker 1: looking ahead to some man fights coming up at UFC

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Speaker 1: two seventy male or female to be fair, two man spreaders.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna preview UFC two seventy.

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Speaker 1: Man the term hat in the damn studio where we

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Speaker 1: win the damn awards.

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Speaker 2: You haven't fun, thank us, Thank you guys. Yeah, welcome,

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Speaker 2: You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: You'll join our livting. Pull up on the couch.

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Speaker 1: That's a great Chuck Mindenhall gets up on that hat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: four three, Hello, come on into our living room. UFC

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Speaker 1: two seventy is on the horizon Saturday night, January twenty

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Speaker 1: second from the Honda Center in Anaheim, California. See you

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Speaker 1: know your boys at Morning Combat BCLT and the extended

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Speaker 1: Third Brother Chuck Minden Hall back on the couch in

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Speaker 1: Jersey City, had to get together hit your pregame preview

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Speaker 1: style for all things Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World

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Speaker 1: when Cyril ghan brings his introom title against the y'all

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Speaker 1: must have forgot still King Francis and Ghanu so like

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Speaker 1: we always do here on MK pregame preview. Chuck, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you're ready for this. No punch is sold.

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Speaker 1: We want to do this real talk like men do.

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Speaker 4: That one minute. People drinking at home, go ahead and

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Speaker 4: take a drink.

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Speaker 1: Chuck, does this tied i MK shirt make me a

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Speaker 1: look that my dietary choices is all right? Look, obviously,

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Speaker 1: whether you guys agree or not that the interim title

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Speaker 1: you know name, could you right right believe in this?

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Speaker 1: Back this It succeeds to some degree in making this

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Speaker 1: coming off that steep a mio chichs knakt to win

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Speaker 1: by the way, show gun might be the next big thing.

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Speaker 1: As Luke Thomas predicted on this show he would wear heavyweight.

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Speaker 3: Goal before the end of the year. He already has

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Speaker 1: How the hell, how fired up are you on a

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Speaker 1: this is this is what we live for. I'll go

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty excited it worked out, to be honest, But uh,

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Speaker 4: I think that the backstory in this one is fun,

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Speaker 4: right like, because you have two guys who kind of

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Speaker 4: Gano being who he is where he's at. I just

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You get two guys, mean

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Speaker 4: buz they have such a contrast of styles in the pro.

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Speaker 1: Wrestling backstory, you can't never look at the X teammate thing, right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, for sure, and then so you get the you

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Speaker 4: And you know the other thing is, for the longest time,

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Speaker 2: Luke, I'm sorry, what are we talking about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kidding.

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Speaker 5: It's something I want to get into shortly, but just this,

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Speaker 5: Out on this one just a little bit, which is

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Speaker 2: It is a very real, lausible future.

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Speaker 2: Well, then you have to ask yourself a question if

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Speaker 5: Which is, what do you do with a guy who

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Speaker 4: This, please.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: I think Sarah Gone is just such an adaptable fighter too.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to try to engage, right,

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Speaker 5: Question for YOUBC would be the Francis and Ghana who

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Speaker 2: Is putting it mildly right? That guy's the.

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Speaker 3: Most impressed I've ever been in the history of this earth.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty impressed.

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Speaker 1: Pretty damn press.

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Speaker 3: You'd be surprised that your literal all time moment.

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Speaker 1: That was probably the greatest moment of my life. No,

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Speaker 2: Fine, I won't really disagree with any of that.

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Speaker 3: That's why, first of all, this fight is so great.

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Speaker 2: Do you think so that guy on that night? I do.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody that goes five rounds with

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Speaker 3: I think he's filling all those spots and he's with

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Speaker 3: It might not matter.

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Speaker 1: That's why you love this fight, because casuals like this

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Speaker 3: Right I just started watching.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you one thing though, if if Francis and

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Speaker 4: he's yeah, great backstory. I feel like, yes, you're right,

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Speaker 1: Looks like follow the path of my life, all the

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Speaker 2: May you we never get the like the like that.

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Speaker 5: Nothing like that ever works out And told them like this,

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you have to go to

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Speaker 1: It's insane because it's the most that is.

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Speaker 5: The most unforgiving, dude, is an unforgiving shitty fucking game.

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Speaker 2: It is. It's an unforgiving as ship. There's nothing.

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Speaker 5: It's absolutely merciless. There's no vision where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: Is what it does. Like with the kind of McGregor

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Speaker 2: Lightning in the bottle.

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Speaker 3: We ask you this weird question.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible that we won't know it yet, but

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Speaker 4: We don't know that.

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Speaker 2: But is it your step? A disrespect is a lot,

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Speaker 2: there's no boundaries yet. Why why does he disrespect Stepe?

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Speaker 5: So I'm not even like any I'm not even like

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna start on Anthony Smith.

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Speaker 6: I dude, I was there when when Anthony Smith gotten

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about drive by shooting is sometimes

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Speaker 1: You know that's the history of that, all right, Whether

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Speaker 1: what this version of Anghana if if that wasn't a

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Speaker 1: is this potential to be an unsolvable style if you're

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Speaker 1: backing Gone to win this fight. Is this going to

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Speaker 3: We don't know that about Zero, that's true.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll find out. I guess if he's able to,

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Speaker 4: you know, put in some bad positions. I guess we

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Speaker 4: I want to see what he can do. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's like, what will he end up being able to do?

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Speaker 4: I think he's the superior striker in terms of technique

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Speaker 4: I'm really anxious to see what his game he does

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Speaker 4: know and Goanham too, Let's not forget. I feel like

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Speaker 4: if anybody's going to know the tendencies and all that stuff,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be gone.

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Speaker 2: Luke.

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Speaker 3: Can this man for twenty five minutes not get knocked out?

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's flip flip the script here a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Here was the fight where you turned and we were like, okay,

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Speaker 5: Gon's for real?

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Speaker 2: What was that fight?

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Speaker 3: Since I was late to the party, it was the Volkov?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the vocals was a vulkof for you.

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Speaker 4: I think it was Volkov that really because he had

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Speaker 4: he looked great. He looked great in his first couple

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Speaker 4: his hype train early on, but I think that that

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Speaker 4: was the fight for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't back down, he didn't listen on his lead.

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Speaker 1: He was trying to finish Volkoff the entire time. That

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Speaker 1: this stuff and this that's where you got to take

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Speaker 1: the yel and be like I was wrong. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see what Luke saw, which I didn't think he could

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Speaker 1: In the last few fights, he's really closed that chapter

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Speaker 1: of doubt obviously, and God was a different level of

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Speaker 1: alien and freak himself. And that's why we're having this

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Speaker 1: debate of Candy survived twenty five minutes against him.

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Speaker 3: But Gon, boy, did he blow me away? One side?

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Speaker 4: I say, you did like a resume thing on in Ghano,

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Speaker 1: Aren't we like, yeah, he might punch a hole right

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Speaker 5: And God is like me, Yeah, I think that there

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Speaker 5: sample size. We keep talking about this. Just ten fights, right, yeah, total,

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Speaker 5: just ten total fights. Not a lot undefeated, but not

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Speaker 5: a lot. Nevertheless, what you see on him with the

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Speaker 5: he does it extremely quickly and he doesn't wait for openings.

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Speaker 5: He creates them. Everything he does is on his terms.

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Speaker 5: He will get hit, He will get hit, but the

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Speaker 5: questions will he get hit clean? Will he roll with things?

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Speaker 5: Will he kind of absorb it knowing it's coming? Dude,

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Speaker 5: everyone he's beaten. He's beaten the exact same way. He

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Speaker 2: Realize that because he doesn't sell himself. For Nan Lopez

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Speaker 4: Know, like how people pegged them basically a submission guy

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Speaker 4: like people are talking about that, yeah, exactly, And.

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Speaker 5: Some of his fights have been a low key, a

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Speaker 5: an entertainment product. He's not the most entertaining, but he's

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Speaker 5: had obviously had some entertaining fights as well. But the

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Speaker 5: point being is, I don't I don't think folks understand

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Speaker 5: his management of setups, and how he achieved all this

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Speaker 2: It's well beyond what his peers do. His peers are

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Speaker 5: And so for those reasons, he's he's going to start

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Speaker 1: But you're saying he may not have to throw a

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Speaker 1: perfect game in the end, he may be able to

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Speaker 5: Definement perfect Really, it's I mean, I think if you

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Speaker 1: Probably, yes. I mean, look, both Steepe and Curtis Blades

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Speaker 1: They were able to show you, if you have equal

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, is it we have we should

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, dude, Francis has the dim mock bro

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Speaker 5: I mean, he touches you once and it's it's it's

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Speaker 5: And yes, of course Gon is going to be facing

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Speaker 5: that threat at all times. I just mean to say,

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Speaker 5: it's going to be if if he executes. In general,

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Speaker 2: You're in deep trouble. Man.

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Speaker 4: He's also very good at kind of just coming in

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Speaker 1: You see the dominant cruise of heavyweight cerrih Down.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I'd go that he's a little

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Speaker 5: what happened right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I Meanie Whittaker gets a lot of respect for a

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Speaker 5: Gone is just styling. Anyone hasn't had foes quite like

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Speaker 1: That's that's what people who go ten rounds with the

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Speaker 1: Primeole Romero they die. So that's when and if this

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Speaker 4: Man, That's the big question for me. I can see

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Speaker 4: is where he might be the guy leading some ground

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Speaker 4: But I could see that scenario playing Gone No No

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Speaker 2: In Ghana, Yeah, interestingly.

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Speaker 4: I could see that. I could see that scenario playing out.

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Speaker 5: You mean, like with with gone flat on his back.

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Speaker 4: I mean just getting or I mean at some point

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Speaker 3: He weighs a lot. He's a heavy dude who in Ghana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there'll be a twenty pound difference roughly between them.

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Speaker 3: He cut down for the.

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Speaker 1: Derek Lewis fight and tried out some type of slim downs.

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Speaker 1: Quicker feel he abandoned that after that fight. He's in

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he wins this fight, and I

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Speaker 5: Fight, no matter what you think, by the way, I

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Speaker 4: love fights with this because you're like, what what does

439
00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,080
Speaker 4: the post fight look like? What's going to happen in

440
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,919
Speaker 4: the post fight? These kind of fights that have all

441
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,879
Speaker 4: this loaded. There aren't too many guys in that spot

442
00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,560
Speaker 4: who are on the verge of being sort of transcendent

443
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,359
Speaker 4: within in the sport, that are betting on themselves, like

444
00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,560
Speaker 4: and Ghana is in this fight essentially.

445
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Speaker 1: What's the big sharp bet that we don't see comment

446
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 1: that afterwards? Is it like gone by stopping?

447
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,159
Speaker 2: You know?

448
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 4: What? Those what is the line? Does anybody know the line?

449
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:38,840
Speaker 2: Don't?

450
00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew it was fairly close early on.

451
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,600
Speaker 1: I'll look it up.

452
00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:42,840
Speaker 3: Was you talk amongst yourselves?

453
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:43,200
Speaker 1: All? Right?

454
00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:43,560
Speaker 2: Well?

455
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Speaker 5: I think that the As a side note, by the way,

456
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,280
Speaker 5: I missed the pornography we were able to watch last

457
00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 5: time the neighbors.

458
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Speaker 2: I really miss that, just you know, having that as

459
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Speaker 2: part of our.

460
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Speaker 5: Breakdown it was that was That was a nice DT

461
00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,040
Speaker 5: war that we really enjoyed.

462
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,480
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like the sharp money is

463
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,240
Speaker 4: going to be on gone though. That's what I think,

464
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 4: but we will see.

465
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,400
Speaker 2: Well he looks it up. How have you been otherwise?

466
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,400
Speaker 4: Everything's been good man? Yeah?

467
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,919
Speaker 1: All right minus one Franciscan fair one two gone more

468
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 1: or less around.

469
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 5: Yes, we're gone, wow, but we still have I mean,

470
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure when this will come out, but even

471
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 5: even late movement seems possible on this okay.

472
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Speaker 1: But the natural reaction is okay, well, well, and Gona

473
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,400
Speaker 1: went through hell with Stepe for five rounds, taking big

474
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 1: shots and he was fine. If gone, Cyril Gon is

475
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 1: able to take control of this fight like you senses possible,

476
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 1: but just completely pitch a one sided basically a perfect game,

477
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 1: and just of dominance of wearing out the gas tank

478
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 1: is a gone stoppage potentially.

479
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 4: In play, I think.

480
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Speaker 1: So it's that of God no gone, getting a stoppage win,

481
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 1: which would be a big It.

482
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Speaker 5: Would depend on the okay, so if you estimate that God, okay,

483
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 5: if you believe God will win, you will be believing

484
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 5: he'll do it. This sort of system of striking he's

485
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 5: set up right, So the question is how much better

486
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,360
Speaker 5: is he than in Ghana if you believe that If

487
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 5: the difference is minimal or you know, just barely, then

488
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 5: I don't think you will in any way see a

489
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Speaker 5: stoppage if it is significant where he's able to really

490
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 5: catch him clean, you know with wide openings stoppages. Well,

491
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 5: you know what, you don't talk about this. Francis has

492
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 5: a fucking chin of steel too. Man, there's a lot

493
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 5: too heavyweights and landed on him and it didn't do shit.

494
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: That's why I opened it by saying the natural reaction

495
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 1: would be, well, hey, Steepe couldn't finish him, and he's

496
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 1: got big time power. But I wonder if Gon has

497
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 1: the potential if everything goes his way and he's basically

498
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 1: throwing a no hitter out there, if that search for

499
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 1: in Ghanu of trying to just land and hit something

500
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Speaker 1: on someone that he can't hit, if that combines with

501
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 1: the mental fatigue and actually sets him up in a

502
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Speaker 1: way that like we didn't think I'll leave it was

503
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 1: gonna knock out George former and the rumble in the

504
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 1: jungle right, sort of that door type of thing where

505
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm just getting one sided dominance here for Scriff Anderson.

506
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 4: And in Ghanu early gone late.

507
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Early gone like yeah, probably,

508
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: but you know I bet un.

509
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 3: Less unless unless in Gano two point zero is.

510
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's do you think what your your

511
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 5: question is interesting?

512
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 2: Right? Because it's related to it.

513
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 5: It is at least somewhat related, especially since he's a heavyweight.

514
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 5: It's a fair thing to ask. Well, obviously, know Francis

515
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 5: has just earth shattering power. Does he have earth shattering

516
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 5: power in the fifth? If he goes that way?

517
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: Well, that's especially he is tired, Yes, he is tired.

518
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

519
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 4: I still think obviously the plan for any heavyweight would

520
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 4: be like, let's take him into the later rounds where

521
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 4: we've seen that he's not as effective, and see if

522
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 4: we can work them over there. But you know that's

523
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 4: something that Gone I'm positive has to be thinking about.

524
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Speaker 2: That I have.

525
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 5: I have a I have a pretty good feeling about

526
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 5: in gan who's chances at least if not to win,

527
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 5: certainly to shine, right, because what was one thing we

528
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 5: did see from the Steepe fight? Dude, I got I

529
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 5: keep saying this, you got to pay attention. There are

530
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 5: fighters who kind of just sort of throw themselves once

531
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 5: more into the breach and they just kind of joust

532
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 5: with their opponents, and then through this aculative process they

533
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 5: find opening. And then there are a lot of other

534
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 5: ones who just have a good ability to create openings

535
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 5: on their terms.

536
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: And then Ghana in the first stepe A fight be

537
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: able to do certain things, but he's just a he.

538
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 3: I think he emptied his guest thing out the end

539
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: of round one against the baby.

540
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: Patients.

541
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Speaker 1: We don't know to your point, if there's a three,

542
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: four or five round version of of in Ghana where

543
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: he can adjust to stamina dumps, adjusted taking damage and

544
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: still deliver the boom.

545
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 5: The thing I was just trying to get to get

546
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 5: out before I lost my way was just that Ghana

547
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 5: showed a lot of patients. He should a lot of

548
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 5: patients in the second fight with stepe A, where he

549
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 5: was you know, he was actively trying, but he wasn't

550
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 5: like in the in the Roses truck fight, he was

551
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 5: kind of just flailing a little bit. And there's been

552
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 5: some other fights where he was kind of clashing with

553
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 5: opponents and trading with him a little bit. This is

554
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 5: what he was very sort of dedicatedly setting things.

555
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: Up almost the first fight in which he opened a

556
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: scenario that I can counter and finish these guys that

557
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: I don't need to your point, create the openings or

558
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: just ball right through them, which he really has had

559
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: patients his entire career in ways I didn't even member

560
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: until we rewatched some of those for resume review. But

561
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: what do you think the second Stevepey fight was really

562
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: the first time that he fully executed the game plan.

563
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like I got to his chimp before

564
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: he got he got mine, or the other guy was scared,

565
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: and the first time he touched my power he was gone.

566
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: Do you think that was the first time he.

567
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: He flipped it back on?

568
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: Because when you're that athletic and that powerful and scary,

569
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: you obviously can cover up a lot of mistakes. Now

570
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: that he's a full a guy that's been through the wars,

571
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: a guy that's learned a lot him executing a game plan,

572
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: it turns me on it's the scariest thing ever.

573
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 2: Dude.

574
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 5: If he went and knocked out Steapay in thirty seconds,

575
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: he'd be like, oh right, Francis, right, that's what Francis

576
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 5: does Francis knock?

577
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: That's true, dude.

578
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 5: He took his time and and by the way, there

579
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 5: was that that fight went to the second round correctly right,

580
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 5: and went to live into the second round.

581
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 2: So you had a chance to go back to the stool.

582
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 5: You have a great team, they understand you well. This

583
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 5: is a championship level fighter, high level.

584
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: Championship level fighter.

585
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 5: And he had a chance to come out there and

586
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 5: he ran into a left slot, left hook jab and

587
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 5: that was all she wrote. Dude, he executed in every

588
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 5: face it was Is it the first time that he

589
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 5: did that? I'm not so sure, but I can say

590
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 5: this too. That was an excellent, thorough performance. That's what

591
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 5: really got me.

592
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: It was so thorough.

593
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 5: You know, it wasn't every dimension of the game, but

594
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 5: it was several of them, and it was expertly executed

595
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 5: all along the way.

596
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: Let's do it, man, very good. Let's put our name

597
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: on the line. Nobody can see the future. But here's

598
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: the deal. Yes, it's very possible that Cyril Gon really

599
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: is the next great heavyweight and that he has the

600
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: style resolved, guessing all that great stuff to do this

601
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: against this version of Francis. He maybe it may be

602
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: serh Gon Country the rest of the way. But if

603
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: it's not, there's also this chance that this new Francis

604
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: and ganhu because he was able to redeem his first

605
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: uf his only real UFC loss, right, Derek Lewis fight

606
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: was weird, but his only real UFC loss was the

607
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: Steepe one. He had the gift of being able to

608
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: go back through Steepe to run it back in front

609
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: of all our eyes and show how much he's improved

610
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: and absolutely take that off his record. If he takes

611
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: out Cyril Gan and knocks him out, and then you're like, okay,

612
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: let's get him, Derek Lewis, Let's let's fill that spot

613
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: when you are so like a Lennox Lewis who said, okay,

614
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: I had two losses. Yeah, there are big knock losses,

615
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: but I went back and knocked those guys out in

616
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: the rematch for the title. I swiped that clean Francis

617
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: and Gan, who could be on a path towards like

618
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: all time greatness, Like I'm not. I'm talking about the

619
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: upper table, the one that habib sits at, John Jones,

620
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: Andrews and Silva or there's GSP. I think Fador still

621
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: got a chair at the end of this table, remember

622
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: that time Cormier sat at the table for a week.

623
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, as as real as it could be

624
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: that it could be gone.

625
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: We also could be seeing the launch of the greatest,

626
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: most destructive force in the history. I'm taking that chance,

627
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: and I'm picking this version of Benganu by knockout.

628
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: I say, right around the second round, we're just gonna

629
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: go Holy I hope we.

630
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: Get that kind of fight. Honestly, I just hope that

631
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: there's a there's there are moments where that's possible, or

632
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 4: if the if the first couple of rounds are going

633
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 4: to have to exercise and GNA's patience because nothing's happening,

634
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, gone's making him kind of

635
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 4: initiate and he's not going to initiate himself. That's I

636
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 4: just want to see that.

637
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

638
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 5: So let's say Francis wins the way you I imagine

639
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 5: in this scenario, right like ko, amazing, fucking spectacular, holy shit, whatever,

640
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 5: last fight on his deal. So what do you do

641
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: if you're Francis, you see, like, what do you think

642
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 5: he does here? Because everything you're saying is one thousand

643
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 5: percent true. But if he can't find some kind of

644
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 5: workable arrangement with the UFC, what the fuck do you

645
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 5: want to do?

646
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: You know how they say winning cures everything if you've

647
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: got bad locker room. But hey, everybody's winning, so we.

648
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 5: Just we just he's coming up with a list of wins, winning, winning,

649
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 5: That's what.

650
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: What else has Francis been doing? But knocking everyone will

651
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: he will have.

652
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: Not only fulfilled his potential if he knocks out Cyril Gone,

653
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: he will have like fully fulfilled it.

654
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm talking about him maybe going to the goat table.

655
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: If he does that, that I believe will have fixed

656
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: the issues between them. Obviously they have to pay him

657
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: more than he has that's gonna receive, but he will

658
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: have to pay him more anyway, because he will have

659
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: fulfilled that guy. He is that guy. He's amazing, Mike

660
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: Tyson if this happens, So that's where winning is gonna

661
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: keep everybody happy because they're gonna have to and want

662
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: to pay this rule.

663
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: Do you think he only leaves it? Again? Who the

664
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: fuck knows? Right? But you think he only leaves if

665
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: he loses.

666
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting because Dana mentioned that he had

667
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: that run in with Francis where they ran into each

668
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: other in Las Vegas at a restaurant and the management

669
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: team wasn't there, and Dana said, it's the first time

670
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: I've had like a real get through talk with him

671
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: where we heard each other and I understand, and you know,

672
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: of course Daniea did the data thing of it's really

673
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 1: his managers at are assholes, not him taking advice from

674
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: the wrong people. I wonder if we know how much

675
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: Francis wants to get paid and have a boxing match.

676
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: We know there's a little back and forth with him

677
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: entire Tyson Fury and Fury, so let's do the four

678
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: on globes. And I'm not saying any of us really

679
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: care about that. But ESPN has Top Break Boxing and

680
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: they also have UFC. Is it that far of a

681
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: reach to say that.

682
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: Do you think you think Dana wants to do business

683
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 5: with shot that fuck up?

684
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: Yell that yeah.

685
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: If they do, because Dana can get the rub of

686
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: a Tyson.

687
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 5: Fury, Ja White and Bob Aram making money together, which

688
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 5: they kind of do as you know, as combat sports

689
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 5: entities in the ESPN plus space. But I'm just saying,

690
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 5: like actively on an event together is incomprehensible to me.

691
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: But you don't think Disney goes we want that fight.

692
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: You're the baddest man on the planet sports.

693
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You're dude, You're one thousand

694
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: percent right everywhere. I just can't.

695
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 5: I can't see. Those guys have called each other the

696
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 5: worst things.

697
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: You can, I believe, But they're not as at each other,

698
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: so as you think they're not. It's not like it's

699
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more of underlying respect. I think

700
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: for both there. I think they publicly disrespect each other.

701
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: And you know, and obviously Bob for years have been like,

702
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: MMA is a bunch of skinheads watching skinheads watching skinheads

703
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: with other skinheads there, preck shut up. I think when

704
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: there's this money and it's the same family. My point

705
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: of saying, I think, and God was obviously a special case.

706
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: I think they can get him with that, even if

707
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: he loses.

708
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: I think that's interesting hypothesis.

709
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 5: I will say that it is certainly true that does

710
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 5: in this crazy new world we live in, you you

711
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: start cannot dismiss the possibilities, although yeah, yeah, yeah, I

712
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 5: mean I want to.

713
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 4: That's why I say that John Jones fight. If he win,

714
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 4: let's close this.

715
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have talking about the John just by talking

716
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: about John Jones, But who do you think is gonna win?

717
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 4: Come on, man, you know man, I have literally gone

718
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: back and forth, but I think my ultimate pick is

719
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: going to be in Ghano. I think he's going to

720
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: get it done. I think it's gonna come later though,

721
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: like fourth round. I think he will get a finish,

722
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 4: but it'll be later in the fight.

723
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: You know.

724
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 5: Certainly I have genuine respect for uh, for Francis and

725
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 5: Ghan who was what he's done has been incredible. His coach,

726
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 5: Eric Nixon, I think is perhaps. I mean, everyone knows

727
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 5: he's talented.

728
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: I don't think they.

729
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: Quite understand how how talented he is. And I think

730
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 5: that he will make a strong account of himself. But

731
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 5: I don't think I would argue that the general mm

732
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 5: A public doesn't fully grasp how talented Cyril Ghane is

733
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 5: and they're about to find out.

734
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: When your shirt says get the strap, Is that like

735
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: a S and M thing? Is that like a punishing

736
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: your children type of thing? Or is like or is

737
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: it more like like put the belt? Or is it

738
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: more like like Aaron Rodgers with the with the what

739
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: they call that the discounts discount the discount Yeah, yeah,

740
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: So here's the thing.

741
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I was going to reach for the low

742
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 5: hanging fruit of your mom jokes, but as you pointed out,

743
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 5: it's not very fair because you couldn't do it back

744
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 5: because that would be really important taste. So I'm just

745
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 5: telling you, I'm not going to make your mom joke,

746
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 5: but I'm thinking of a your mom joke.

747
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, in twenty twenty two, that's great. Hey, you know

748
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: what we haven't given a lot of attention to and

749
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: this is his co main event and it's for the

750
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: Flyway Championship, and it's a freaking trilogy before we John Jones.

751
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's let's slip that back and we have

752
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: control over the show. Is John Jones facing the winner?

753
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: Short of them producing the best.

754
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: I honestly think the USC be foolish, not too but

755
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: they were. I already feel like we should have seen

756
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 4: this fight. Of course, John Jones dealing with his own

757
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: problems as always, but I think that that's the biggest

758
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: fight that they could be made.

759
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: Francis had gone over yet.

760
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: If Francis wins, and especially if he goes right through Gon.

761
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: Gree with the biggest fight is either the winner of

762
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: this or just specific I.

763
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Think if it Ghana wins and he fights Jones, does

764
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: that Beatbibe Connor? Or do you need you need hatred

765
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: to really fuel? Does Francis versus John Jones the pay

766
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: per view? Does it provided Francis wins this one?

767
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: Invided Francis wins this one?

768
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: And Francis is everything we thought he was just that

769
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: top the current record, which is what two point four

770
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 1: millions roughly byes of Connor versus Habib, which had so

771
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: many I don't think that it does okay, but it's

772
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: a huge fight. It's an amazing fight. Now, I gotta

773
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: put you on the hot seat and ask your key

774
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: question because you've always been honest about fighters. But John Jones.

775
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: Really he loves the.

776
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: Reason for John Jones's delay upon returning directly related to

777
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: the idea of him going, oh shit, I watched Francis

778
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: in the step A rematch. Why don't I wait to

779
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: see if Cyril Gon can beat him first? Because obviously,

780
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: John attempting to play chess with Cyril Gon for five

781
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: rounds is an incredible fight and much more manageable than

782
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: my heavyweight demute? Am I going to get flatlined by

783
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: this freak of nature?

784
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: How much? Which is John just being smart and staying

785
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: on the back a little bit?

786
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

787
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the reasons why he hasn't exactly

788
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 5: come back are probably a little complex, if not solely

789
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: related to the fact that he's had complications in his

790
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 5: personal life.

791
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: Which were all certainly aware of at this point.

792
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: But he's too plus.

793
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 5: But I think what you're ultimately getting at here is

794
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 5: probably right. Which is is he looking at you know,

795
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 5: you've seen the kids with the jumper ropes in the park.

796
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 5: Is he looking at that and then waiting for the

797
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 5: smoothest action? Yeah, he's a larger see what is up

798
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 5: against the making dude?

799
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: That's what listen.

800
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 5: John Jones, whatever else you want to say about him,

801
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 5: is a smart, talented, calculated fighter.

802
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: He has high fight IQ. This is a guy.

803
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 5: Who in assessing opponents and assessing times and when to

804
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 5: get in, he is probably going to try to time it. However,

805
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 5: there is always the factor that he has poor risk

806
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 5: management outside of the cage, and is.

807
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: When that version of God who emerged in the second

808
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: sneep a fight that was the first time I said

809
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: to myself, maybe John Jones won't go at go into

810
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: heavyweight and just have instant success, because there are destroyers

811
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: at this level who can add this much wrinkle to

812
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: their game that.

813
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: I think John Jones likes to fight with and Gone,

814
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 5: to be quite I think Gone is the tough fight,

815
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 5: to be honest.

816
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: With you, It is a tougher fight.

817
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: It's for John. Tough fight, dude. That's a very tough

818
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: fight for him.

819
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: Because the idea of John going to heavyweight, which which

820
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: I started thinking about back in like twenty eleven, twenty twelve,

821
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: I remember saying obviously against Les and that still could

822
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: have happened up until like last year for all we know.

823
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: But the idea was that he would be using quickness

824
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: to outsmart a larger division, which they're slower and they

825
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: don't wrestle a lot.

826
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: That has changed.

827
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: It's crazy too, because you know so many of John

828
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 4: Jones's recent fights have been against I call him woodwork consenters,

829
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: the people who aren't like really hyped, but they come up,

830
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 4: they make it, and they get the meritocracy and they

831
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: get their shot. They're not inspiring fights in terms of

832
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: pay per viewser in terms of imagination, he's always a favorite.

833
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: In fact, when those guys show up and Dominic g

834
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: Reyes gives him a fight, the surprises like, whoa, you

835
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: know this guy competed with him. He actually might have won,

836
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: you know, And that's why it's a story. What we

837
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: haven't seen is just John Jones coming at somebody who's

838
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 4: supposed to beat him, you know what I mean. And

839
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: I feel like that that is why it works. Now

840
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: he's fallen so far away from the hot like spotlight

841
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: that he was at before. I don't know where it'll be,

842
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 4: but you feel like if they rev up the promo

843
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: machine and they really got behind it and remind people

844
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 4: how good John Jones is and what the perception of

845
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 4: him has been, and you know why he's bored with

846
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: the contenders and all that stuff he's been doing, and

847
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 4: put him into the new weight class, you know what

848
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 4: I mean, and then have Francis and Gano, who's the

849
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: everything we've been talking about. I just think it's such

850
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 4: an awesome setup. It's like the you know, it's like

851
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: when we used to talk about fad Or and guys

852
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: like that. You couldn't have there was some partition that

853
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 4: would block guys from fighting each other. But this is

854
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 4: one of those moments where you're like, no, you don't

855
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 4: have a partition. You could put them together.

856
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 5: I think I do think though again I want to

857
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 5: just say this, this is just you know, keep bringing

858
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 5: it up. Could be epically wrong. Again, Francis goes in

859
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 5: there and touches him once off switch and then that's

860
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 5: what it is. Yeah, but you need to also at

861
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 5: least entertain the idea of a world I'm more than you.

862
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: It is plausible where.

863
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 5: Gon goes in there and beats Francis relatively not easily,

864
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 5: but you know it gets it them and then goes

865
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 5: in there and does the exact same thing against John Jones.

866
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: I think I would Picklick I were sitting here talking

867
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: about the John Jones and Ghana fight.

868
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 2: I would pick Zerol to pick to beat John Jones. Yeah.

869
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: Times also a world in which Cyril Gan does that

870
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: for three rounds and completely dominates and then still get

871
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: knocked out.

872
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: By he could be he could be exactly like it

873
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: and Colora Gucci.

874
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: Part of why we love it so much.

875
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: Final question on this fight to you, does the winner

876
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: regardless of who or what circumstances call it John.

877
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 5: Jones, Yeah, probably certainly if Francis does it, no doubt

878
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 5: about it.

879
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, USC will ask them to do it.

880
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: Put on this comin event Flyway Championship.

881
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: This division has been so fun in the post DJ

882
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: and so kudos short run on top to maybe save

883
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: the division. It's obviously going to be the champion Randon Moreno,

884
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: Mexico's first and finest against the former champ, Devison Figuredo.

885
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: Before we get into what this fight could be, and

886
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: it could be fight of our lifetime for all we know.

887
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: These guys do.

888
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: These guys do make fun stuff against one another, with

889
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: the second one being surprisingly so one sided. Does Figaredo

890
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: actually deserve this love?

891
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: I think so, but it's only you know what is

892
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: funny because he had a string of finishes and at

893
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 4: that weight class, you think, like, wow, man, this guy

894
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: is actually something. He's going through these these these contenders,

895
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 4: are these guys that are high up, He's going through

896
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 4: them in that way, and I think that, you know,

897
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 4: just given the way the first fight went right and

898
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: then he gets worked the second, I still like the

899
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: idea because I thought his reign was going to be

900
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 4: a lot longer. I think that he was sort of

901
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: primed as like, hey, this guy's kind of like the savage,

902
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: the savage flyweight, who's going to be here while he's

903
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 4: got a really weird personality.

904
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: All interviews with no shirt and the dark sunglasses.

905
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: I love it.

906
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 4: He's just a different kind of guy. So I mean,

907
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: you're taking all of that from a promo, promo package

908
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 4: and all that, and I just think, why not do

909
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 4: the trilogy at this point?

910
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: Oh okay, in the meritocracy world, it doesn't make a

911
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: ton of sense, not like he was.

912
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 5: A actively let's stated, what is the case for the trology?

913
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 3: What is the case sales?

914
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: Easy co main event to put with whatever main event

915
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: you want to and in this case the main events, great,

916
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the fans which.

917
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: Which contenders are being screwed here? Pantojia, I don't know.

918
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: I asked Askarov hasn't lost and he's I mean I

919
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: thought he should have been next.

920
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: In line, made a huge impact.

921
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: True, and look, if it just comes down to Moreno

922
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: could really be a star and he and he's a

923
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: star because he's got that Mexican style and that and

924
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: that easily relatable boxing never give up.

925
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: Moreno Askrov had a really good fight down in Mexico

926
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 4: City too.

927
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely, so maybe they're thinking, okay, well, Fergretto will bring

928
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: the best out of Moreno, but he's probably got the

929
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: edge on him. So let me ask you about that edge.

930
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: The second fight shocked me how easily Brandon Marino won.

931
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: How much was that because Figuredo was already a suspect

932
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: in terms of can he make one twenty five consistently one?

933
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 5: I think it has wrecked his body to get I

934
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 5: mean he gets down there. You see him on the scales,

935
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 5: he's like dangerously lean.

936
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: It's believe the little bed to beat the to beat

937
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: the replacement upon a.

938
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: Couple of fights ago. Again, he's had multiple like he

939
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: came from the even I forget.

940
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: But even in scenarios where he's made weight, there's been

941
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 5: a lot of struggle to do it. And of course,

942
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 5: you know that was the issue of the first time

943
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 5: we fought Benefidez and the whole and the whole uh

944
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 5: you know, nine there was so you know it's yeah, dude,

945
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 5: that has absolutely wrecked him. But he's still a formidable competitor.

946
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 5: What are we doing here?

947
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: We're talking about talking about the guy who's the guy

948
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: who filled in and Figaredo defended this title.

949
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: Oh you're that in depth on it.

950
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually want to get facts right, including a

951
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: guy who just fought for a UFC title, Like, I

952
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: can't believe the three of us are striking out. I

953
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: f it was Alex Perez. Alex Perez, that was the

954
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: one where he literally was like at a point of

955
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: near death with the way cutting that the moment. I

956
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: mean he had something crazy going on. He fought through

957
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: that and falling a bad aston one.

958
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 5: No, I think it's more the story of the growth

959
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 5: of Brandon Moreno, there is the clear they just can't

960
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 5: when the guy, the guy like Figuredo has just had

961
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 5: uh the guy like I'll say this, what was so

962
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 5: different about the about Brandon Rena was in the first

963
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 5: and the second fight better energy, yes, calmer, yes, okay,

964
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 5: all that, but he just made a lot better decisions.

965
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: Like he just got way effing better in the gym.

966
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 5: So there's an accumulation issue certainly on the other side

967
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 5: of the equation, But I just think it's a story

968
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 5: of Brandon Reno just getting.

969
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 2: So much better.

970
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: This could just be savvy matchmaking in the end, I

971
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: think he's got his number.

972
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 3: The third, I think that it is.

973
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: More like that. I think they do believe he's guy's number.

974
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 4: I also think that the UFC think I believe it camp.

975
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 4: I believe that I believe both. Honestly, I think that

976
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: the UFC is like, I think that they believe that

977
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: he has Figurat his number. I think that they're banking

978
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: on him going in there and winning.

979
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: But I also think that the best matchup was just

980
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: doing this again.

981
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: That's the best. That's the most exciting fight we can

982
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: make Rano.

983
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 4: As much as they want to downpland as much as

984
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 4: maybe you say, like, well he doesn't have as much

985
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 4: charisma as some of these guys, but being the first

986
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: Mexican born champion, being from tij One and have that story,

987
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 4: you know, like kind of coming up from twelve years

988
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 4: old with his family, pinata makers, all this stuff, getting cut, yes,

989
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: getting cut, coming back. I mean, nobody saw him coming

990
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 4: through this whole process. So it's like, I feel like

991
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: he is a big story. And also the thing that

992
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: they've wanted that's kind of Trojan Horse is that not

993
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: to overdramatize it, but they can maybe get that market

994
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 4: lit up more because I felt like before with caame

995
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: Vlaska's it was sort of they were kind of behind him,

996
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: but not really. It was not like the same thing,

997
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Mexico thing, That's what I mean.

998
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 4: It was like it was it was more like trying

999
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 4: to sell sell America on the idea that you know

1000
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 4: that Mexico is behind it. But I actually believe that

1001
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: Moreno has the thing. And also at the awards, like

1002
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 4: this is true just anecdotally.

1003
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 5: It's anecdotal, but it feels representative, which is that like, dude,

1004
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 5: wherever we went, people were like glad handing him and

1005
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 5: everyone really.

1006
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: People like man, I was at the fight Mexico City

1007
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: when he fought Ascarov and it was like a hero

1008
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 4: came out. I mean that. I mean, well, I was

1009
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 4: like the last good fight to the last that wasn't

1010
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: even a good fight card. That's the last fight card

1011
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: I went to, really, but the pop was amazing. It

1012
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: was like he was a hero. So I'm imagining that

1013
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 4: was just a fight night and he was buried kind

1014
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 4: of forget that.

1015
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: But not only did he not have a personality, he

1016
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: doesn't fight in a Mexican American boxing style, which is

1017
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: attrong point of what they're what they'd be trying to hook.

1018
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: Now they're putting in southern California, the home of like

1019
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: the Mexican American boxing fan.

1020
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: It's calculated.

1021
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: It makes sense. This is going to be a war

1022
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: no matter what the question is, will it be like

1023
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: boxing where if two great fighters had a really fun

1024
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: first fight, second fight was really fun, but the younger

1025
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: fighter was more dominant and finished it. The third fight

1026
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: that will be the shortest of the three and the

1027
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: most one sided. That that's what that is. But could

1028
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: figuredo change it? I don't know either.

1029
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: It was weird an MMA guy just figured somebody out,

1030
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: like somebody who's just cruising on this other guy against

1031
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 4: against the bear.

1032
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like all it's like something is absolutely impossible

1033
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 5: until something where a guy comes in and just wrecks

1034
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 5: that idea.

1035
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: You're all right? You know, does the winner attract Henry

1036
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: Sugudo or he never fighting the flyweight again because he's

1037
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: obviously a big name star hovering over three divisions right now,

1038
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: threatening to parachute in and save a big event and

1039
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: become chance.

1040
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 4: And I feel like if he shows up, it'll be

1041
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: a the other way. I feel like, that's what he'll do.

1042
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 4: But I can see him at band I just can

1043
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: keeps putting. Yeah, I don't see him going back the flyway.

1044
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: Heyota, Yeah, Yeah, Heyoda, Y mean just he should kick

1045
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: you in the Yeah.

1046
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: That reminds me of that. We were in Vegas and

1047
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 4: walking around at the New York New York and you

1048
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: saw Yan and You're like, oh my god, it's Petery

1049
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: and you went up to him, said his.

1050
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: Full mate saying, I'm referencing when I went up.

1051
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: We were like, hey, can we take a picture books.

1052
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: We were drunk and stuff, and he did not look

1053
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: happy at all, and I was like you And then

1054
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: Sterling was there. He was like right around the corner

1055
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, you get that title, bro. He's like,

1056
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: I'm working on it, and look he got that time.

1057
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: It was that speech. Who's that?

1058
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: Any other things to say about this flyweight title fight?

1059
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: In terms of.

1060
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 5: Nothing, the Henry Stahudo angle is a little bit interesting

1061
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 5: because to Hudo's story is you do he he would

1062
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 5: be an interesting cell in Mexico, like I don't know

1063
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 5: exactly what's what is on the Mexican uh fans would

1064
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 5: embrace him, but it's a fan well especial against Marino,

1065
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 5: but you know, I think that they have welcomed him

1066
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 5: there before. He is fluent in Spanish, and you know

1067
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 5: he does how to work a crowd too, Like, Hey,

1068
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 5: if you're.

1069
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: UFC, do you overpay the hudo to make one twenty

1070
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: five one last time in the hopes that in making it?

1071
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: But like, why would you? Why would you?

1072
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: Why would you use Henry to like potentially stamp out your.

1073
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: Stand to cement Brandon Marino as.

1074
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: Well when he's looking for some other potential one thirty

1075
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 5: five or even one forty five opportunity, you want to

1076
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 5: use him to potentially snuff out He's just growing in

1077
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 5: the market, to be.

1078
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: Honest, because of what GSP did to them by kind

1079
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: of lying.

1080
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: They don't want Shudo to who already retired out of

1081
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: nowhere when they weren't ready giving up two divisions. Basically,

1082
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: they don't want to win the featherweight title and then

1083
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: be like, sorry, guys, I'm out of here.

1084
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: Hey, anybody want to make a lightweight time about with me?

1085
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 3: You know, like he didn't want that ship, so they.

1086
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: Could try to control the situation and say, okay, we'll

1087
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: still squeeze out what's left of his brand, which is

1088
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: a lot.

1089
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: And it's not that he couldn't win that fight, but that'd.

1090
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: Be a tough way.

1091
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: Cup.

1092
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: You've got to chuck as we find wine down here.

1093
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: I want to get your take. Luke and I had

1094
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: a little debate.

1095
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: Of Morning Combat about this.

1096
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: I care a lot about heavyweight Greg Hardy against Alexia Linix.

1097
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: Isn't as simple as thinking that if Hardy opens the

1098
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: Bible and goes right to the Book of Ezekiel, that

1099
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: he gets cut from the UFC after that.

1100
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 4: I think so. I think it's right. Of course he tho,

1101
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 4: that would be three.

1102
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: In a row.

1103
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 4: Right, they keep putting them on these meat For Greg Hardy,

1104
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: the would be three loss in the row too.

1105
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: He has been inexplicable.

1106
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: Means that's what I'm saying here is showing up again.

1107
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 4: I feel like it's always with reluctance that we talk

1108
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 4: about because it wasn't like he was his decorated I

1109
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: know his backstory, but it wasn't even beyond that. He

1110
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 4: didn't have a decorated uh you know, uh sub you

1111
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: know before the UFC type record. It's just like we've

1112
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 4: been paying such him in THEFC always on these main cars.

1113
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: Then putting him in there with tuy Vas the last time out,

1114
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: which rightfully he got hammered because he's not on that level.

1115
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: Was that UFC his way of kind of cashing moths, like, okay, if.

1116
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 4: He could be there, I thought, I thought so, And.

1117
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 3: Now they're fully just getting what's left.

1118
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 4: Especially against a forty four year old guy who, like

1119
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: you mentioned Ezekiel, I mean, like.

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00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: I still look, let's give Hardy some credit. He's a

1121
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: one round, explosive offensive fighter.

1122
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: But he didn't. He never turned the corner.

1123
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: He never he is.

1124
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 5: He is baffling to me, you know, because there's been

1125
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 5: times where like he'll look, you know, decent, you knowing

1126
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 5: the distance against yeah, going the distance against vocal, decent

1127
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 5: like at times inspired, at times pedestrian, but somewhere around

1128
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 5: like commendable ish, and.

1129
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: Then he'll have these performances.

1130
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 5: I forget which fight it was, but he had the

1131
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 5: first round where he was fucking electrifiers like Jesus, he

1132
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 5: has made huge improvements.

1133
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: And then that was the very next round.

1134
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 5: Where he completely crashed after he got taken down one time,

1135
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 5: and then the whole ship collapsed, and you're like, what, well,

1136
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 5: how did you where I've never seen I've never seen

1137
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 5: him be like either extremely hot or extremely cold or

1138
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 5: like kind of in the middle, like he could never

1139
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 5: quite goldilocks it. And and then there's like the issues

1140
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 5: with like, oh, let's just get a fucking inhaler in.

1141
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: The corner like that.

1142
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: That's all, Yeah, you.

1143
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: Know, you got a veteran corner, Like how the fuck?

1144
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: It's just the whole.

1145
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 4: Thing, really, uh if you know brace Like so the

1146
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 4: second chance thing is never really played it in some way.

1147
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 4: That was like, dar dude, he.

1148
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 5: Was out there, y, he was duty, but we were

1149
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 5: out there for what media day was that we were

1150
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 5: there for which car he was parading. He's like, I

1151
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 5: want everyone to know, I'm a I pay my taxes,

1152
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 5: I'm a I'm a good, consistently voting Republican. I love

1153
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: Donald Trump. Everybody listen to what I'm I was like,

1154
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 5: if you got nine to nine dollars sign up for

1155
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 5: a loan?

1156
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: That did make him a fan favorite. I don't know what,

1157
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: but like, no, he didn't.

1158
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: It's a hard spot to be in pr wives from

1159
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: the beginning, for sure.

1160
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's a hard thing to tell anybody's.

1161
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 4: Not moved the needle at all.

1162
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: After if you've up royally, it's still hard to tell somebody.

1163
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: You need to go in front of the camera and

1164
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: tell everybody that you've repented and that right was on.

1165
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 5: The questions about him before when he was fighting in

1166
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 5: January and Brooklyn twenty nineteen was.

1167
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: You know this is uh, this is yes, but the

1168
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: but the responses, well, let's see what he's got. Okay,

1169
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 2: saw it. That's fair.

1170
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 4: And it was also now and there was this annollying

1171
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: sentiment from the fan base. Well, everybody just wants to

1172
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 4: se him get knocked out. I've seen that a couple

1173
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: of times. There's really not.

1174
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: Knock out Olymics.

1175
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: He's still I think it's probably likely he knocks out Olynic.

1176
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: Actually likely, really I think he gets Ezekiel.

1177
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 5: Well, let me actually know what, let me instantly take

1178
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 5: that back. I don't know what the fuck is like

1179
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 5: the strap, but it is it is plausible. Certainly he did.

1180
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: He is heavy handed, he's quick, he's athletic. Obviously, he

1181
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 5: is well coached. He could he could beat Olyntic the

1182
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 5: first that's.

1183
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: Quickly in passing. What do we miss at UFC two

1184
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: seventy anything else you're looking.

1185
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 4: Forward to the Coach Stamon Fight's the only other one

1186
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: on the main card, the Red. There's some decent names

1187
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 4: on the prelims, but honestly, this is one of those

1188
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 4: cards that's very top heavy. All the all the big

1189
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: action I think is on the top.

1190
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: Dounfel Vere is like, I will not get ripped again.

1191
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: He's that's always compelling for me, manly compelling, but you know,

1192
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 4: hasn't quite had the growth that hope. But you know, see, yeah,

1193
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 4: he could be slow to to the take and and

1194
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 4: you know, just sort of quietly bides his time and

1195
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: then gets better and all of a sudden, he's late thirties,

1196
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: You're like, he's pretty good, you know.

1197
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: Or early forties like us.

1198
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 3: You're like, man, these guys they shul wouldn't awarder something.

1199
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: I can't believe. Glover is our age. Glover is our age.

1200
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's fuck out of people.

1201
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: He would he would chuck Minden Hall, you don't live

1202
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: that far from Glover.

1203
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: To show, I live right down the street fromhim.

1204
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: You guys should be hanging out.

1205
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 4: He texted me and said he's actually he's back now.

1206
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: He was in Brazilia. He's like when I get back,

1207
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 4: when you know, hang out, so you.

1208
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: Send your photos, you get the kids together and like wives.

1209
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 5: Just alright, I tell the audience just you know, we

1210
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 5: can respect lovering he but like you know what I'm saying, Like,

1211
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 5: what's it like hanging out with him?

1212
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: He's actually because if you notice, like he doesn't sail

1213
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: out in the press, but he's you know, if you're

1214
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 4: drinking some beers chatty, he gets a.

1215
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: Little more chatty.

1216
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: I bet you he like I bet you you know he'd.

1217
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 4: Be like he seems like just one of the guys,

1218
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 4: and then you you always have to remembering like this

1219
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 4: guy just you know, he can knock you out, dude.

1220
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 5: He'll help you like shovel your your wall, if you

1221
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 5: have some snow, if you're elderly.

1222
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll also knock out your fucking son. He will

1223
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: into the ground. Trust me.

1224
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: Wow, I love don't lovers. I love raw on real

1225
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: UFC previews. That's what we bring to the show. Chuck

1226
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: Minenhall joining the trio back in the brotherhood should follow

1227
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: you anywhere any projects you want to promote anything.

1228
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 4: It's not worth a following following my social feed sucks.

1229
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: Your ship is terrible.

1230
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: Listen to him on the Hey, you're doing stuff with

1231
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: hell wanis to be big enemies with him throws you know,

1232
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: yeah he even joined one of these one time. I

1233
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: know it was the highest rated uh pregame preview.

1234
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, can tell this one.

1235
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1236
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 5: By the way, I think he talked ship about and

1237
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 5: I think this maybe if I get this wrong, if

1238
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 5: I'm wrong, Errol will kill me for it.

1239
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: But I don't think i'm wrong. I think I'm right.

1240
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: I think remember he was talking ship to your face.

1241
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 5: Yes, when we were a pool side about the whole

1242
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 5: shebang that we were dealing with the dock cameras.

1243
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: I believe when he.

1244
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 5: Was talking about because I think you know, we were

1245
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 5: like did you see did you see these previously or whatever?

1246
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 5: He said, yes, he has seen him previously, and he

1247
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 5: was like, you know what, I think you know, Chuck's

1248
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 5: numbers were poultry.

1249
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: Poultry, I think was the word, like they were not good.

1250
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: Helwan talking that.

1251
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: Ship, trying to just wed talking that ship.

1252
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: Money.

1253
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 5: He wasn't just saying it so much about you as

1254
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 5: he was sort of like, it's my responsibility, so therefore

1255
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 5: I and the failure.

1256
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: He was talking ship to me but he did.

1257
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: He was just mad at Canadians because Bronstead sent me

1258
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: some records for Christmas.

1259
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, well, I mean Luke Ship, you know

1260
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1261
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you're such a happy vibe to the show

1262
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 4: until the end. That's Luke.

1263
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't want records anyway, or his run combat.

1264
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 5: I want to send yoursconsor you wore even.

1265
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. Enjoy u f C two seventy.

1266
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: When it's heavyweight madness, Cyril Gone brings that interim ship

1267
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: in there with Francis and gand the real champion. Real

1268
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: talk

1269
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 2: Men do with the motherfucker short Bussy immediately