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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. He's trying to outlast Brady's career.

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Speaker 1: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. I'm Dan Anders, joined by Greg Rosenthal and Greggy.

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Speaker 1: Not every week is going to be filled with diamonds, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to say it's filled with roxy either week

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Speaker 1: four Sunday. There were some good moments, but what we

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Speaker 1: really needed was a great Sunday night game and the

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Speaker 1: drama of the Pats and Tom Brady and the reunion.

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Speaker 1: It's that special, Greg, that we're actually gonna start the

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Speaker 1: show with a little Sunday night football today. How about that?

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Speaker 1: It is not every week, but you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: every week that the greatest quarterback of all time returns

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Speaker 1: to his home. And yeah, you gotta give him their respect.

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Speaker 1: And they showed up in a game in a week

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Speaker 1: where I think there was like five six seven, like

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Speaker 1: great looking matchups and hipster Duface is like me, We're like,

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Speaker 1: oh Bucks, Patriots, it's not even like one of the

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Speaker 1: better games of the week. Actually, it ended up being

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Speaker 1: way better than all of those games. Right. You could

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Speaker 1: you could kind of get board of the build up

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Speaker 1: to a game like this in the way NBC was

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Speaker 1: putting all their professional might behind and promotional might behind

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Speaker 1: making this thing as big as possible and getting all

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Speaker 1: these actors I think from New England, various people uh

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Speaker 1: to be part of their campaign. But at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day of the teams needed to play the game,

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Speaker 1: and the game was a good one. So before we

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Speaker 1: get to all the Sunday Week four action, let us

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Speaker 1: start with the last game. And it went down in Gellette,

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Speaker 1: honest way, that is for you, Rick. So I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you, Greg how many times as a I would

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Speaker 1: have called myself Tom Brady hater but somebody suffered at

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Speaker 1: the hands of Brady um for so many years. It

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Speaker 1: would always get me mad that yes, Tom Brady is great,

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Speaker 1: and yes the Patriots do it the right way and

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Speaker 1: they just know how to win. But it always felt

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Speaker 1: like it's so many instances, instances the team they were

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Speaker 1: you INT's like, oh Brady is so charmed, you have

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Speaker 1: such a charmed life, And isn't an ironic when he

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Speaker 1: goes back to Foxboro for the first time, Greggy that

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Speaker 1: that happens again. Tom Brady is on the right side

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Speaker 1: of what felt to me um a situation where the

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Speaker 1: opposing team, when it mattered most, made a bad decision.

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Speaker 1: In this case, to me, it was going for the

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Speaker 1: field goal with Nick Folk fifty six yard or in

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Speaker 1: driving rain with a bad plant leg and uh, instead

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Speaker 1: of going for it on fourth and three, it hits

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Speaker 1: the upright final score Bucks nine teen, Pat seventeen. Icy

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Speaker 1: quick handshake at the end of the game between Brady

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Speaker 1: and Belichick. I'm kind of into it, Greg, but also

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Speaker 1: it's Tom Brady. What a blessed life it's been. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you want to like drive down narrative street, let's

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Speaker 1: do it. Bill Belichick in the biggest moment of the biggest,

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Speaker 1: you know, game of this season for them, and and

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Speaker 1: certainly his biggest moment as a coach I think in

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Speaker 1: this season, blinked. He kind of choked. He had a

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Speaker 1: pretty obvious decision. We were sitting there in the film room,

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Speaker 1: It was close enough, and I didn't think it was

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Speaker 1: it's like they gotta get three yards here or else.

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Speaker 1: It's one play in the game is over. They tip

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Speaker 1: anyone that's watching the Folk who's hit thirty five straight

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Speaker 1: anyone that's watched this game down the stretch thought, the

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Speaker 1: he was. You're saying, fire Belichick, there's your narrative in

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Speaker 1: that moment. The only perfect the only perfect thing for

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Speaker 1: Give me more of it. I don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: on with that guy, but I love him. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean this. The the shame of it is for

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Speaker 1: It should be stated, it's not like he was so

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Speaker 1: out of his depth on that kick in terms of

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Speaker 1: It's just a little that I know, it's nonsense to

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Speaker 1: to go to the desert to play them. These guys

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Speaker 1: are for real. They also know they gotta have a

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Speaker 1: quick turnaround. Play on Thursday night, another big division game,

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Speaker 1: and suddenly the card those are at the top of

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Speaker 1: the division called the Curse of the Power rankings. The Rams,

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed your six days stay it's over

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Speaker 1: at number one. Speaking of over the undefeated season of

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Speaker 1: the Roncos. Head to Mile High, Rocos rushed for Jackson

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Speaker 1: with time going deep. He's looking at Hollywood proud at

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Speaker 1: the five. He reaches up any nights Hollywood Brown, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the end zone for a touchdown. Jerry's and

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Speaker 1: Dusky w b a L See my voice is back right,

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Speaker 1: It's no, it's not money Smith. But when it's humming,

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Speaker 1: it's fine. It's good. It's a good little weapon. Totally

442
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Speaker 1: totally took a shot last week June, Carlos Stanton buried me.

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Speaker 1: It's all the way back. I mean, if yours is

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Speaker 1: a weapon, what's mine? You know, I don't know you

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Speaker 1: answer that question. Lamar Jackson through for three hundred sixteen yards,

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Speaker 1: including that forty nine yard touchdown past to a diving

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Speaker 1: Hollywood and thank god, Hollywood, you needed a catch a

448
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Speaker 1: ball and it was an ice catch. And the Ravens

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Speaker 1: combined offensive prowess with another great defensive performance or a

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Speaker 1: great defensive performance beating the Broncos seven. As I said,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos were undefeated no longer. Greg Denver lost Teddy

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater to a concussion in this game, But it sounds

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Speaker 1: like this loss was more about more than just that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Teddy gone. At halftime. Score was seventeen to seven. At

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Speaker 1: that point, I keep this notebook that you know you're

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Speaker 1: keep the notebook, and I you know, I never write

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Speaker 1: the winner, you know, until the very end of the game,

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Speaker 1: unless I'm feeling like ultraconfidence. When Locke came in, I

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Speaker 1: wrote in Ravens left the score empty, wrote Ravens. I

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Speaker 1: knew it was over, and I don't think it would

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Speaker 1: have mattered if Teddy was out there. When when Bridge

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Speaker 1: writer was there, he threw the ball sixteen times, got

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Speaker 1: sixty five yards. The Ravens dominated this game up front,

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Speaker 1: and they're and they're winning offensively in surprising ways to me.

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Speaker 1: You would think a game where they're ahead the whole time,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna rush at forty five times, they're gonna rack

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Speaker 1: up these rushing yards. Rushing net today one hundred and

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Speaker 1: two yards for the Ravens. They actually were pass heavy,

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Speaker 1: like they still throw the ball thirty seven times and

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Speaker 1: only ran it. I think thirty. They're going deep. It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna create a lot of consistency on offense. But

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Speaker 1: Lamar hit a couple of the deep throws today. He

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Speaker 1: had that one to Hollywood Brown, a couple of nice

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Speaker 1: throws to Mark Andrews, and uh, it was like enough

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Speaker 1: they protected him and the defense got after it. It

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Speaker 1: just gets me thinking, like whenever I doubt this Ravens

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Speaker 1: defense over the last five or six years. It's just

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Speaker 1: like they just find guys. They find a way in

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Speaker 1: oada fe oh Way. Their number one pick to me

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Speaker 1: would be the defensive rookie of the year or the

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Speaker 1: month other than Michael Parsons. Like Michael Parsons has just

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Speaker 1: been crazy. But this guy, oh Way just has crazy

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Speaker 1: athleticism where if you're into washing past watching pass rushers,

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Speaker 1: he's a good guy to just watch snap after snap

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Speaker 1: because his athleticism is just outrageous. So Bolt teams punched

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Speaker 1: on their first three possessions uh before finding the end zone.

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Speaker 1: There was only six points uh to Justin tucker Field

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Speaker 1: goals uh in the second half, so a lot of

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Speaker 1: this damage was done in the middle portion of the game.

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Speaker 1: And Tucker, by the way, I heard because we're all no,

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Speaker 1: well never everyone's caught up to the beauty of Justin Tucker.

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Speaker 1: Now he gets the pregame reports that he was banging

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Speaker 1: seventy yard ors before this game in the uh the

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Speaker 1: light air of Colorado, and that I'm too bad he

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Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to do that. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess this is with the Broncos. It's a wait

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Speaker 1: and see situation. Now with Teddy, it's a concussion. You

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Speaker 1: never know which way that's gonna go. But Drew Lock,

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Speaker 1: I think you told me downstairs. The restless crowd in

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Speaker 1: Denver does not want to see Drew Lock on the field.

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Speaker 1: There was some and it was like mixed booze when

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Speaker 1: he came out for the game. Now, maybe they didn't

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Speaker 1: know Bridgewater was heard at the time and they thought

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Speaker 1: they were just benching him, and they were like booing

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Speaker 1: that decision partly. But Locked struggled. He didn't know what

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Speaker 1: he was seeing. This happens. But his first fifteen dropbacks,

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Speaker 1: I think he had fifty six yards passing, but had

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Speaker 1: taken three or fourth acts in that so like net yards,

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Speaker 1: they had almost nothing. They've just lost too many players.

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater is their eighth starter who's now out. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot like it. It's a big number. Yeah, for a

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Speaker 1: team that you know I liked, but it was talented.

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Speaker 1: That's just a lot going on there. Uh. And they

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Speaker 1: lost Patrick certain very late in this game to a

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Speaker 1: chest injury, so that would make nine. They need to

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Speaker 1: get healthy. And I just give the Ravens a ton

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Speaker 1: of credit for getting through this first month of the

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Speaker 1: season three and one. I know they got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a break there in Detroit, but ultimately, like

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Speaker 1: it was a tough first month schedule, They're gonna get

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Speaker 1: healthier and they're up. You know, they're three and one,

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Speaker 1: and I don't I don't like to do too much

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Speaker 1: look ahead on the Sunday Night show because that's what

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Speaker 1: we have later in the week. Um. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: later in the week, we will be in London. Hello,

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Speaker 1: let's get that out there. Remind the people that we

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Speaker 1: will be uh on a plane and traveling to England

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Speaker 1: for the Jets Falcons game at the Big Top. Looking

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Speaker 1: forward to that. Um. But you look at Denver three

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Speaker 1: and one at Pittsburgh, Now that used to be a

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Speaker 1: really tough game. Well, I don't know what to make

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Speaker 1: sense of the Steelers anymore. But after at Pittsburgh home,

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Speaker 1: Raiders at Brown's Home, Washington at Cowboys. So if the

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Speaker 1: Broncos are good, Greg, and if they can get some

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Speaker 1: guys back, of course, but attrition is part of the game, Greg,

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Speaker 1: so you can, but don't bail. Now, I'm not bailing,

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Speaker 1: but it's also an important part of the game. It's

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Speaker 1: you know, Kendall Hinton, our old buddy who took quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: napster them last year. Now was like their third receiver,

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Speaker 1: that was one of their top positions, and they did

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Speaker 1: not get much of a pass rush. I'm fascinated just

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Speaker 1: this Broncos. This Ravens team is just kind of I

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Speaker 1: think confident that the Broncos wouldn't get much of a

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Speaker 1: pass rush. And they're just you know, dialing up plays

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Speaker 1: a little differently this year, and they're winning game this

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Speaker 1: game pretty easily. All right, let's move on. In fact,

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Speaker 1: let's welcome in m one of our favorite people. What's up, baby,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Guys? How are you doing? How are you

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Speaker 1: how are you feeling? Buddy Whearing, the NFL Podcast merch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: look at all this stuff you stole before you went

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland. Hey, I got this recently, all right for

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Speaker 1: the for participation on this show, that's here. You are

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Speaker 1: a big member of the NFL Podcast. So the pipe

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Speaker 1: is here. He is Western Ohio born and bred, and

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Speaker 1: he now gets to talk a little Cleveland football like

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Speaker 1: it used to be played. Let's head to Minneapolis. Takes

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Speaker 1: the staff and he's got it and he's back and

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Speaker 1: he rules to the left. He's throwing towards the end

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Speaker 1: soon and it is in complete. The ends on it

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Speaker 1: complete of the ends on broke it up by Jot

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Speaker 1: and the third. That's the end of the game and

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Speaker 1: the Pros winning on the road here in Minneapolis. There

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Speaker 1: what three in a row. Jim Donovan with a good

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Speaker 1: call w k r K. The Browns allowed to touchdown

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Speaker 1: drive on the Vikings first possession, but then the stout

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Speaker 1: Cleveland d said that's enough shutting out Minnesota and that's

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Speaker 1: ensuing him. Ovens possessions in seven win at US Banks Stadium.

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Speaker 1: It's a big road win. Shookie, Miles Garrett and the

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Speaker 1: Browns front seven harass Kirk Cousins made them earn every

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Speaker 1: single yard. And you know, Kevin's the Fancy's gotta be

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Speaker 1: pinching himself in his return to Minnesota. Yeah he does,

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Speaker 1: you know the I don't know if I would say

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Speaker 1: he's the prodigal son. But somewhere along those lines, Returns

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Speaker 1: gets a hard fought win, a really kind of an

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Speaker 1: ugly game. If you're a fan of defense, you loved it.

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Speaker 1: But offensively, there was a lot to be desired from

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Speaker 1: both sides, kirk Cousins marches him right down the field

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Speaker 1: to begin with. They look like they're they've game planned well,

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Speaker 1: they know exactly how to attack this Brown's defense. They

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Speaker 1: even convert a fourth and one and that was it

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Speaker 1: five three and ounce from there kirk Cousins with an interception. Um,

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Speaker 1: they actually probably got one more chance than they deserved

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Speaker 1: at the end and still couldn't convert. A concerning day

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Speaker 1: for Vikings fans. If you're thinking about your offense after

585
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Speaker 1: you come off, you know, scoring thirty plus points last week,

586
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Speaker 1: you can't put more than seven on the board. But

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Speaker 1: if you're a Browns fan two straight weeks for that

588
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Speaker 1: defense is absolutely dominated and it's certainly one you this

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Speaker 1: game today. It's the most surprising thing to me that

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Speaker 1: I saw today was that in the second half of

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Speaker 1: this game there were fourteen possessions and there were three points.

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Speaker 1: And these are two of the best offenses in the

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Speaker 1: NFL coming into this game. So explained that for me, Shookie, Well,

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Speaker 1: I could I could help you out with that as well,

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Speaker 1: because Baker Mayfield played poorly in this game, including a

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Speaker 1: a kind of end the game touchdown should have been

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Speaker 1: walking for Odell misfire. His accuracy was out the door

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Speaker 1: and it's been that way for two weeks. Shook. What's

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Speaker 1: going on with Baker? Yeah, we talked about this last week. Greg.

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Speaker 1: I think you said if if a box score can

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Speaker 1: tell a story, you know this might be the game

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Speaker 1: that tells the story. Well, Baker Mayfield's box score can

603
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Speaker 1: completely tell his story. He was poorly. Is putting it nice? Dan?

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean. I don't mean to pile on

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Speaker 1: a guy who had a bad day. Baker was horrible today.

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Speaker 1: The only thing he didn't do wrong was turn the

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Speaker 1: ball over. This is probably his worst game as a

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Speaker 1: pro in which he did not turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen a thirty three overall missing guys had every depth

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Speaker 1: of target on the entire field. Odell Beckham Jr. Could

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Speaker 1: have back pedaled into the end zone for a game

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Speaker 1: ceiling touchdown if he puts it on him in the

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Speaker 1: right spot. He was. He was so arrant that it

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Speaker 1: made you wonder if maybe the shoulder injury or injury

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Speaker 1: that they had on his non throwing shoulder was affecting

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Speaker 1: him because it was just that bad. It was it

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Speaker 1: was inexplicable. But they were still good offensively on the ground,

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb twenty one carries a hundred yards and Kareem

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Speaker 1: Hunt really defined that offense in the first half, both

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Speaker 1: in the running game in the passing game. He had

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Speaker 1: a long pickup on a draw that that ended up

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Speaker 1: coming down to it kind of advanced the chains and

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Speaker 1: put them in position to kick a field before half,

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Speaker 1: which ended up being big. Um. You the Browns have

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Speaker 1: been you know, you said that they're one of the

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Speaker 1: better offenses in the NFL. Statistically. That might be true,

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Speaker 1: but for the last three weeks, the Browns have really

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Speaker 1: been kind of stuck in the mud offensively. The only

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Speaker 1: difference in the last two games has been that their

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Speaker 1: defense has really picked them up extremely in this game.

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Speaker 1: So they still have a lot of things to figure out.

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Speaker 1: And I think the biggest common underlying theme here is

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Speaker 1: they don't have Jarvis Landry and it's really hurting Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield in his ability to move the ball through the air.

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Speaker 1: They ran, they ran for four. I guess why I

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Speaker 1: would put them there is they've been efficient passing the ball,

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Speaker 1: and the running game is the best week after week overall,

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Speaker 1: and they and they were able to in a game

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Speaker 1: where both of these teams really want to run. Only

640
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: one was able to and that was the winning And

641
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: it might be annoying to uh Nick Chubb fantasy owners,

642
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: but it's just it just hums that offense when they

643
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: have Kareem Hunt actively involved and they're doing it as

644
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: a two headed monster in it, it does it. It

645
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: kind of it's good for Cleveland because it does bail

646
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: you out when Baker has these games, and unfortunately Baker

647
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: he has these stretches, it seems because he's inaccuracy this

648
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: week especially what really I struggle to wrap my head

649
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: around Baker with this, Nick, because when he is on,

650
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: he doesn't miss at all, Like he'll have those nineteen

651
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: of twenty one type games where he has Steve Young

652
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: like accuracy, and then this will happen. Is it a

653
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: mechanical issue? Like what where? Where does this come from?

654
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Where Baker is all over the map in terms of accuracy.

655
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes it comes within rhythm where he's just kind of

656
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: out of rhythm or he's you know, double clutching that

657
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: type of thing forcing balls. That wasn't really the case today.

658
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: The case was just he simply wasn't hitting open guys.

659
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it truly was difficult to explain

660
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: watching on TV figuring out how you're missing a dump

661
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: off to Kareem Hunt on third down, You're missing O'Dell

662
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: down the field when he's open. You're missing guys at

663
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: every depth, just throwing high passes through the hands of receivers.

664
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted me early in the game and said, why

665
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: aren't they catching Baker's passes because he threw a couple

666
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: of high ones that kind of went through their hands,

667
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: but they were a little out of reach. By the

668
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, it was clear why they weren't catch him

669
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: because he couldn't put it in their catch radius. So

670
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: he needs to figure that out, and he admitted after

671
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: the game that he played very poorly. So if you're

672
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: a Browns fan, you hope that they that he bounces back.

673
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: But it's also really been a test I think of

674
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski and his ability to get into a rhythm

675
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: as a play caller, because I think he's gotten a

676
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: little too cute offensively. They definitely did two weeks ago

677
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: in against Houston, they did a little bit against Chicago,

678
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: and then they did late in this game where this

679
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: is a team, as we all know They're built to

680
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: finish games by pounding it on the ground with Chub

681
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: and Hunt. And they had a possession late in the

682
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: game where all they had to do was just get

683
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: a couple of first downs, chew the clock and kind

684
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: of salt away the victory, and they decided to throw

685
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: it with a quarterback who wasn't accurate for most of

686
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: the day, and that's what resulted in that Beckham in

687
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: completion on third down. And it was just like, that's

688
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: not how you close out a game. That's not who

689
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: you are. You need to go back to who you

690
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: are and understand your identity. But they're three and one.

691
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: They're winning close games, they're avoiding losing games that they

692
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: very much. We have lost the pack. I do wander

693
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: like his progress, you know, his latest ad. Yeah, you know,

694
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: I feel like a little bit down, and I just

695
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: wonder if that's like getting in his head, like because

696
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: he's not getting as much. You know, Mark might be listening.

697
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: So he's been great in the past, but this this

698
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: the latest. You think it's like the cut that meat.

699
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: It's like you jumped the shark and away, um well

700
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: perhaps and on the Viking side. Before we move on,

701
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: I'll just mention this um as great as they look

702
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: last week, I didn't think they never necessarily looked even terrible.

703
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm just terrible in this game on offense. I think

704
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: it was just a really good Cleveland defense that was

705
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: locked in, but Dalvin Cook aggravated that ankle issue and

706
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: he was able to come back in the game when

707
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: they were trying to get that late score. But it's

708
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: just something to track because Cooke, we know, has his

709
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: injury issues staying healthy, and if it's something that he

710
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, he was forced to sit out multiple series,

711
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: it's something that might he might have to deal with

712
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: for a long time this season, if not for the

713
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: balance of the season. So keep an eye on that

714
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: from Minnesota. All right, we're gonna move on to Big

715
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: D the Cowboys rising right after this. Prescott and the

716
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: gun looking right pumps throws it downtop by robson the

717
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: fog spite st rocking the dog opening the game, painting

718
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: defense touchdown. Zeke Elliott went three and Dak Prescott through

719
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: four touchdown passes including that game. I sorted Cedric Wilson

720
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys romp about the final score. It was over

721
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: the Panthers also knocked from the ranks of the unbeaten,

722
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: but this turned into a blowout shook the Cowboys look

723
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: like an offensive force, while the Panthers learned this football

724
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: thing is hard against the good teams. Yeah, an offensive

725
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: force that's missed his rushing attack. Uh and number twenty

726
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: one for a little over a year who definitely went

727
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: back to his premiere form this week. Zeke was fast,

728
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: he hit the hole's hard, and he ripped off multiple

729
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: long runs that really got their offense going. And you

730
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: have to give credit as well to Tony Pollard who

731
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: was like the perfect complimentary back to Zeke, and they

732
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: both were gashing Carolina's defense in the first half and

733
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: the second half. Zeke ripped off a forty seven yard

734
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: run um in the second half that kind of propelled

735
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: them toward another scoring possession and kind of basically it

736
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 1: was like the almost the dagger um in that game

737
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: as part of that run in the second half where

738
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: they overcame a deficit. But it was a complete effort

739
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: from them offensively. Dad didn't have to do that much,

740
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, only through two passes because Zeke was doing

741
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: so well on the ground and Tony Pollard deck ran

742
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: a little bit as well. And and the defense. You know,

743
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: this is something that we that we gave the Cowboys

744
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: so much um grief for it last year. It was

745
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: their sieve of a defense and instead this year, dan

746
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: Quinn's work is starting to show. It's namely in the

747
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: way that Travon Digs has played. You had two interceptions

748
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: again today. Uh they both led to points. Ten total

749
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: points overall, one touchdown on the field goal. And other

750
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: guys like Michael Parsons are playing really well. You know,

751
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: as a group, they're playing total team defense. It's all

752
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: coming together and we're starting to see a Cowboys team,

753
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: don't don't you know, I'm not this is not hyperbole here,

754
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: but we are starting to see a Cowboys team that

755
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: is potentially fulfilling what we thought we'd see from them

756
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: last year the year before on paper. They're starting to

757
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: really bring that to life on the field so far.

758
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: And this is probably I know they had a big

759
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: win on Sunday Night last week, but this is probably

760
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: their most impressive win to date. I mean, I don't

761
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: think it's not like we need to wait to hype

762
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: up the Cowboys there if they're not the best. The

763
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: offense in the league. Yeah, their second or third at worst.

764
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're almost They're unstoppable. It's not like

765
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: you need to see much more than that that. The

766
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: defense doesn't even need to be good for them to

767
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: be Super Bowl contenders. They threw the ball twenty six

768
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: times last week, scored forty one points. They threw it

769
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: twenty two times this week, scored thirty six points. The

770
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: Panthers supposedly, you know, statistically had the best rush defense

771
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: in the league coming into this game. Uh, the Cowboys

772
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: set a record where it was five point five yards

773
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: before contact on average running the ball in this game.

774
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: So that is just an offensive line that is steamrolling opponents.

775
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: And now we know they can steam roll good opponents.

776
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: And if the running game is that good dac you know,

777
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: making the decisions and being able to be so accurate,

778
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I would I would take them

779
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: over any offense in the league right now. I think

780
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: the the stat that kind of proved because this is

781
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: this is a litmus test for them, right at least

782
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: a little bit against the defense that was playing with

783
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: its hair on fire through the first three weeks in Carolina,

784
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: and we were like, well, We'll see how the Cowboys

785
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: do against this defense. Maybe they are for real, maybe

786
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: they're not. The Cowboys scored thirties six points and five

787
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: rushing yards Sunday. Right before that, the Panthers had only

788
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: allowed thirty total points and a hundred thirty five rushing

789
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: yards in their first three games. So you want to

790
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: talk about dominance in a statement game, it was definitely that.

791
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: It's a great like reminder of like defensive rankings is

792
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: almost entirely predictive on the teams you've played if you

793
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: just like to do the math to it. Because in

794
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: this game, I think they almost had a gholston, which

795
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: is our word for no quarterback hits, no sacks. I

796
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: believe they touched Doc one time. And we could be

797
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: better by the way, as um a football industry, when

798
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: you go thrown around things like wow, it's gonna be

799
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: some showdown between the high flying Cowboys and football's number

800
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: one defense the Panthers, Like WHOA, you have to earn

801
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: being I don't care about the statistical side of things.

802
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: You have to earn that type of title. And they

803
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: didn't put up any resistance Carolina, But what about on

804
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. First game, full game

805
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: without Christian McCaffrey. Did you see anything in the Running

806
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: game while McCaffrey is out to build on and what

807
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: about Sam Donald? Well, the headline in the Running Game

808
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: is Sam Donalds two rushing touchdowns. But I'll get to

809
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: that in a second, because Tuba Hubbard does deserve a

810
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: little bit of credit. He has been a pretty hard

811
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: runner for them in a decent replacement for McCaffrey. But

812
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 1: he's obviously not Christian McCaffrey, and they do need more

813
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: on the ground overall. Having said that, Sam Donald's two

814
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns today, uh, five rushing touchdowns in the year.

815
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: He you know, he's He's putting up outrageous rushing numbers

816
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to touchdowns for quarterbacks, especially from a

817
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: guy like him. He scrambled on multiple attempts to pick

818
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: up first downs. Yes, but the thing is is I

819
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: still need to see a little bit more from him

820
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: in terms of consistency through the air. He threw two

821
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: interceptions today that immediately lead to points for the Cowboys

822
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: and totally swung the game in favor of Doubts. I mean,

823
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: Carolina was punch for punch with them through the first

824
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: half and into the third quarter. Sam's mistakes put them

825
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: in a position where they had to fight, you know,

826
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: an uphill battle, and they basically ran out of time.

827
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: I do give them credit, though, you know, it's a

828
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: young team and they fought to the end. They just

829
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: kind of ran out of time. But if they didn't

830
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: dig themselves that whole, which Sam basically dug for them,

831
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: then we might be talking out a different outcome and

832
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: potentially a statement went for the Panthers. So right now,

833
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, we've all talked about how Sam has improved

834
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: in so many different areas, but a couple of the

835
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: areas that we know that he still hasn't gotten better

836
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: at ball security when getting sacked. He didn't really fumble

837
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: the ball away today even though he got sacked five times.

838
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: But those two interceptions proved to be the difference that

839
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: just like on the defensive side of the ball. And

840
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: that's not to totally denigrate what they did in the

841
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: first three weeks, because they did win three games, but

842
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: the true tests with Donald has yet to come. And

843
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: and maybe this sounds like it was little up and

844
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: down obviously, all right, one more game was Shookie um

845
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: Let's head to lambau Field and the snap rush on

846
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: Rogers with time initially wakes though, what's up? He's done? Touchdown?

847
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: That's why Aaron wanted his boy Randall back Wayne Larvy

848
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: with the call w TMJ. I guess whatever. Rogers connected

849
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: with Randall cop for two touchdowns and he ran for

850
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: another score. Rogers did is the Packers beat the Steelers seventeen,

851
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: their third straight win. Uh, Rogers are steady here, shookie.

852
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: But Pittsburgh now has lost three straight after that week

853
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: one win in Buffalo, and they haven't scored more than

854
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: seventeen points. So are we in an in any of

855
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: those games? Are we at a place now and Steelers

856
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: football where anything involving a shootout, they're just not gonna

857
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: be competitive, Yes, although I don't know if necessarily there'll

858
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: be in a ton of shootouts if their defense is healthy,

859
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: and their defense is what kept them in this game today.

860
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: But when it comes to them possessing the ball, it

861
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: is it is a struggle. You know. I remember a

862
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago or so, Greg had said about

863
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Why does everything have to be so hard?

864
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: That is the Steelers? Why does everything have to go

865
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: so hard? For them with the football in their hands

866
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: on fourth and less than five or less than seven.

867
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: It is a disaster. It's comical, like it's to the

868
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: point where I hope they get the ball fourth and

869
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: seven or less because I want to see how they're

870
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: gonna mess it up. You know, they again fourth in

871
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: one today they come out trips bunch tied to the left,

872
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: naj Harris, and they got to the right. And I

873
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: sit there and look at the screen. I got this

874
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: is a dump off to Harris. And guess what everybody

875
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: in Lambo Stadium, including the Packers entire defense, namely Jaire Alexander,

876
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: they also knew that was coming dump off the Harris

877
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: loss of yards turnover on downs fourth and five later,

878
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: what do we do? A one yard drag? Did Juju

879
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster who gets wrapped up and reaches out in

880
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 1: vain a full six feet short of the first down

881
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: line to gain on fourth and five another turnover on downs?

882
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: That right there, uh captures what the Steelers are offensively.

883
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: They cannot move the ball quickly. They do move the

884
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: ball sometimes, but they can't convert the downs that they

885
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: need to. It all starts with Ben Roethlisberger, also that

886
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: offensive line that's still young, cannot create a lot of

887
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: room for Naja Harris to work. Doesn't give Ben Roethlisberger

888
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: a lot of time to throw. But his lack of mobility,

889
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: his age is very much showing forty today, seventy eight

890
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: point three pass reading after one one touchdown interception. It

891
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: just I think he's in the Gabbar zone here again

892
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: very much. It's ugly. We are we are getting to

893
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: the point where I tweeted today, it's mind numbing watching

894
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: them trying to move the football. The end, it is

895
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: absolutely perplexing. The end is it's it rarely ends well

896
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: for these guys, and it's happening like we saw with

897
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: Eli Manning and the Giants, who was in the same

898
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: draft class, that's happening now for Big Ben, and I

899
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: just wonder um show him. By the way, do you

900
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: think Juju Smith Schuster is reconsidering that decision to stay

901
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: in that That's what it was. Eight targets today for

902
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: eleven yards. The only decision worse than bringing back Ben

903
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: was Juju picking the Steelers. He took less money over

904
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I don't buy that. I think that was

905
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: a little pr but either way, like, uh yeah he could,

906
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: but he could be catching passes for Patrick. I mean

907
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: it feels like Shook that if if it was another situation,

908
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: and it's it's the same. It's what got Ben McAdoo

909
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: fired in New York. By the way, when you're like,

910
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: let me move move away from the veteran who's won

911
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls, but they don't really have anybody back

912
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: there that unless you're Dwayne Haskins fan or a Mason

913
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: Rudolph guy. I guess they're gonna ride it out or

914
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 1: do you think there's any chance we might start hearing

915
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: some rumbles about job security here? Well, that's the thing is.

916
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: You know a good friend of mine, I do a

917
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: podcast with his name, Sean, A small plug. There's a

918
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: Steelers fans the podcast, it's the Seaun and Shook Podcast.

919
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: You find all right when you tape it, because then

920
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: he's going to criticize your role out just trying. He

921
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: tried to promote his own podcast. He didn't say the name,

922
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: so no, I know, not not the marketing genius right here. Um,

923
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: he's a Steeler fan. And when we've talked about this

924
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: at length, it's just he's like, do we see a change,

925
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know as as well as I

926
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: know that that that's not going to happen because of

927
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: who Ben Roethlisberg is what I fear for Steeler fans.

928
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: I know it's really but what I fear for them

929
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: is that this turns into a Derek Jeter retirement tour

930
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: and and as the Steelers try to work out the

931
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: kinks and point to their youth at so many other positions,

932
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: they just ride it out until the end of the

933
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: season and then take the next step. The thing is,

934
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: as you mentioned Mason Rudolph, he's not even under team

935
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: control so like beyond this year, so it might not

936
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: be him and I end up being Dwayne Haskins. There's

937
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: no clear plan, like you said, which I think also

938
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: points to the fact that I don't think they move

939
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: on from Ben because they have nowhere else to go.

940
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: I just think they kind of take their lumps and

941
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: try to figure it out as they go. My real

942
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: question is Randy Finger took all the heat last year

943
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: for their offenses. Um, you know, just breakdown down the

944
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: stretch last year. T Yeah, does he get held to

945
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: the same standards because I'm not seeing anything better except

946
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: for some pre snap motion. That's it. No, I think

947
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: you can blame the players. I think it's fine too.

948
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: It's it's fine to blame the offensive line unless Jason

949
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Garretts d O C and then Greg would blame I'm

950
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: saying in this case, like, what's the commonality? What's the commonality?

951
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: Now it's all there, It's all laid bare for the Steelers.

952
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: And this was always within the range of outcomes that

953
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: we're not writing them off. It's it's October three or whatever.

954
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: But this was always within the range of outcomes when

955
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: we were talking about this team leading into it could

956
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: go bad. So far, it's the two games. There are

957
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: two games behind three different teams in their division. We

958
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: should give some credit though to the accords when I

959
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: watched them, especially like today, like they to me seem

960
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: like the purest Shanahan offense there is right now, Like

961
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: they got the outside zone running against the Steelers, which

962
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: to me is impressive. Dylan Aaron Jones didn't pop off

963
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: in terms of his numbers, but he had a couple

964
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: of big plays like the week one seems so far

965
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: away for both of these teams. It's just it's just

966
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: a long way away for both these teams. Yeah, you

967
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: have to be excited if you're a Packers fan just

968
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: from the consistency you're seeing from this offense. Yeah, they

969
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: didn't put up a ton of points, but they moved

970
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: the football effectively. And the Steelers got away with what

971
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: I think was a tripping call that ended up being

972
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: a sack credited T. J. Watt that kind of um

973
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: stalled the drive that was probably gonna end up in

974
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: a touchdown for them as well. So maybe you know,

975
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: four more points on the board for them there. They

976
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: are consistent, they're effective. It seems like they've worked through

977
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: their growing pains that they had in Week one. And

978
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, when you get a guy like Randall Cops

979
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: too touchdown passes, you're like, hey, we don't have to

980
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: just go to Davante Adams. We can go to a

981
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: number of different guys and still score points. So, um,

982
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, I have nothing bad to say about them,

983
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: um Ji Alexander his card off after this game, so

984
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: hopefully or during this game after he made that tackle

985
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: on Naga Harris, so hopefully that they avoid something serious

986
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: there with that. But overall, um, you have to feel

987
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: confident about them, all right, CHUCKI thank you, buddy. We're

988
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: gonna be obviously in London taping our show next Sunday.

989
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, time zone wise, whether

990
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna be involved with our show, but if it

991
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: all sinks up, we'd love to see you over the

992
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: ocean next week, buddy. Thank you. We can do that virtually,

993
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: you know. Just we have to agree now, no usage

994
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: of across the pond. No across the pond, all right now, Tory,

995
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm going across the pond. There goes Shookie. Let's head

996
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: to the link where the Chiefs try to get back

997
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: on track. They're doing six for the Chiefs. Last player

998
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: be full the tree minute warning Chiefs were gonna throw

999
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: it here and my homes are throwing it up. He's

1000
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: got tyreek cal Offen and calls it up touched off

1001
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: chance City Homes. What he wanted, single coverage and a

1002
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: whole half of the field to let the Cheetah run

1003
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: as far and as long as he could. Mitch Holter's

1004
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: w d a f you know, Matt money Smith, the

1005
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: voice of God on this podcast, having like a tantrum

1006
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: on the power rankings together. Every Tuesday, NFL Network, three

1007
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: pm eastern noon Pacific about the Chiefs being in trouble

1008
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: and their offense being in trouble. Oh please, you got

1009
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. That's the answer. Then he threw five touchdown

1010
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: passes in many ways. He threw like a ski ball

1011
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: shot uh for a touchdown. He did a shovel for

1012
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He threw a deep bomb there to Tyreek

1013
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Tyreek at three touchdowns, Chiefs over Eagles,

1014
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: and uh, you know this is what Kansas City looks

1015
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: like when they play a cleaner game on offense, and

1016
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: they hadn't been cleaned in recent weeks. The killer fumble

1017
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: against the Ravens late in that game, four turnovers last

1018
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: week in uh an upset loss, and now you play

1019
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: a clean game, you get forty two points. The other

1020
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: team's gonna score because the Chiefs continue Gregg to have

1021
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: issues on defense. But the Eagles, as they did um

1022
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 1: last week, kill themselves and two weeks ago as well,

1023
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: kill themselves with unforced errors, three touchdowns negated by penalty

1024
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: resulting in three four point plays. You know that's what

1025
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: the old Michae Lombardi saying, you probably took them from

1026
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: parcels when you leave a touchdown on the field, kick

1027
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: a field goal, you'll lose four points. Well, do the

1028
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: math three of those. I'm not great at it. Four

1029
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: times three is twelve. You lost Payne. They led the

1030
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: league and penalties coming into this week. I think they

1031
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: had set the Eagles record for most penalties in a

1032
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: three week span. That's concerning, not shocking. I mean, the

1033
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: Chiefs actually lose the turnover battle in this game one

1034
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: and nothing, uh, and they still put up forty two.

1035
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: It It's funny because with the Chiefs, it's like people

1036
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: are like they haven't really developed their offense. They haven't

1037
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: really like changed it that much in the last few years,

1038
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: and they're not really getting anything beyond Tyreek Hill and

1039
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey and it's it's like, uh, yeah, you don't even

1040
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: really need to and you still put up forty two

1041
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: on the Eagles and the only reason the Chargers beat

1042
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: you is because you've turned it over four times. So

1043
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the offense. And they got the

1044
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: running game going, which I think is is a big

1045
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: sign for them because I think they will need to

1046
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: run it efficiently at least to be the team that

1047
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: they need to. They're gonna have to put up four

1048
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: to each week at this rate. They will. By the way,

1049
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: speaking of offense, no defense, we got a little jackpot

1050
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: in this game, and this surprised me for only the

1051
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: fourth time. That's our jackpot for only the fourth time.

1052
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be more like you

1053
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: would hear the coins falling, Ricky, and maybe some buzz

1054
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: in the crowd. Let's let's work on our jackpot sound

1055
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: effects for next week. Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah,

1056
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: the crowd ambiance. That's a bad job on me. I

1057
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: should have I'm not I'm not pointing fingers. I'm saying

1058
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: I think we, the collective, we could be better with

1059
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: that no punt game that hit it again, Hit it again,

1060
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: Jack Bay Brent Musburger is gonna sue me because, for

1061
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: the only the fourth time in NFL history, Greg there

1062
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: was no punts in a game, and it happened here.

1063
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: The chief scored every time they had the ball except

1064
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: for one. Mahomes I and T and the Eagles, Yeah,

1065
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: they killed themselves with mistakes. Otherwise they were moving the

1066
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: ball well. I thought Jalen Hurts was good in this game.

1067
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: Um fancy god, Jalen hurt Seriously, he is a top

1068
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: five at worst, and because even when they're getting blown out,

1069
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: he's he's finds a way in the end zone a

1070
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: couple of times late, and he did it again this

1071
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: week after he did it on Monday night. But as

1072
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: long as if the defense is gonna get lit up

1073
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: like this week after week, they are just not you know,

1074
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna leave that entire division in the dust.

1075
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: I just think they got stuck playing the Cowboys and

1076
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs every week. But it's pointed out that any

1077
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: hope that the Eagles defense was special and any anything

1078
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: beyond just average is hoping for too much. That's insane.

1079
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: The Chiefs went six for six scoring touchdowns. It's that

1080
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: It's one thing to put up forty two. It's another

1081
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: thing to do it in seven possessions. And that's I

1082
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's crazy, that's the thing. It's like,

1083
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: you gotta shorten the game against the Chiefs. You've gotta

1084
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: make them work hard. It's like, okay, once again, you

1085
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: just shortened, uh the amount of time it takes to lose, right,

1086
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: I feel like the rest of the answer no answer.

1087
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, unless you're the Tampa Bay Bucks in the

1088
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Uh, it's gonna be very hard to cook

1089
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: up a scheme to actually stop the Chiefs. So then

1090
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: it becomes something else. That means your offense has to

1091
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: have a big day and you have to get turnovers

1092
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: and that's how you beat the Chiefs. And uh, the

1093
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: Eagles were unable uh to do anything to match the

1094
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs on offense in this game. And the one turnover

1095
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: was all that, um they were able to get in

1096
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: that game. So that's it for the Philly offense. I

1097
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: know some of it was late, but still thirty first downs.

1098
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: That feels good after that. Yeah, the chief I mean,

1099
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: if you're a Chiefs fan, you're frustrated because you can't

1100
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: get off the field. But it must be nice to

1101
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: have Patrick there to clean up all the messiness. Uh,

1102
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs back to five. Let's move up Jones out

1103
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: of the gun hand off stake Kwa slice is right

1104
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: to the end zone and in with the touchdown of

1105
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: the Giants winning it over time Like what, Barkley, it's

1106
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: not a six shard run. Here's your off with dog.

1107
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: You know, let's give the Giants a little Uh, it's

1108
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: on a New York City. They deserve it for this one.

1109
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: It's on in northern New Jersey's not in New Orleans.

1110
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: SA Kuon Barkley ran for a six yard t D

1111
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: and overtime after Daniel Jones passed for a career high

1112
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: four oh two, Jim rally for the first win of

1113
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: the season over the Saints. Greg and I know this

1114
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: one hurts you and you canna you heard great. I

1115
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: almost could hear him whimpering. I can't see him over

1116
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: the screen, but when he's suffering, uh, I can feel it.

1117
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: And when it's the Giants of all teams coming up

1118
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: coming back on the Saints in the return to the Superdome,

1119
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: my goodness, they had it all set up. Fourth quarter lead,

1120
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: What the hell happened? One ten and with the ball

1121
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: and I think that sequence and Giants fans, I'll give

1122
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: you your love shortly because you guys, they deserve it.

1123
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 1: It was a great comeback that the Saints get the ball.

1124
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm just saying because that was the story

1125
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: and that's where I was gonna go first, but you

1126
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: set me up in a particular way, so you've got

1127
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: to go with the host. They're no. No, I'm saying,

1128
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm just answering. I have now wasted forty seconds that

1129
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: none of you listening well every song and that sequence

1130
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: with the Saints getting the ball. It was second and three,

1131
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: I remember it well, and it's about eight minutes left

1132
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: and you think, oh, they're just gonna run over the Giants.

1133
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: Giants are built pretty well to stop the run. And

1134
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: no matter how much the Saints just kept looking for

1135
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: that big camera play, they weren't quite getting it. They

1136
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: ran the ball thirty nine times in this game, I believe,

1137
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: and they only threw it twenty three. The New Orleans

1138
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: Saints like in a close game. They stuffed Camara to

1139
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: make it third and two, and then you bring out

1140
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill and it was a there's a lot of

1141
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill today, and there was a lot of good.

1142
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,479
Speaker 1: You got a couple of touchdowns, and there was some bad.

1143
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: You got an ugly interception, and you got him getting

1144
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: stuffed on this third down. And I just think the

1145
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: way the Saints are playing football right now, it's a

1146
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: really slim margin for error. I think that Sean Payton

1147
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: is trying to play to his defense and play to

1148
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: his running game. And there were points in this game

1149
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: where even though at one point Jamis hit twelve straight passes.

1150
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: It felt like they were just hoping Jamis would not

1151
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: lose the game. And that's where like, hey, let us

1152
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: go win the game here, Jamis. Let's not be conservative,

1153
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: let's not run the ball. And that happened a couple

1154
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: of times late in this game, and they gave the

1155
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: Giants a chance, and to the Giants credit, they took advantage.

1156
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: This is such a transition for the Saints because the

1157
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: way you're talking about how they're using Jamis, who by

1158
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: the ways box score tells the story of a good game.

1159
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: He had a hundred nineteen passer rating, but using Alvin

1160
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: Kamara like this, twenty six carries for a hundred and

1161
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: twenty yards. You never used to see Kamara in that

1162
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: type of role. Um, right, And then you know, so

1163
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: you have that side of things, and so the Saint's

1164
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: kind of are still figuring themselves out. And and I

1165
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: know we talked about Greg. I think you even made

1166
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: a case for him having the best defense in the league.

1167
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: They took a step back. They're figuring themselves out. The Giants,

1168
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: on the other hand, I think, yes, like you did, Greg,

1169
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: and that was very nice to you again, magnanimous. You

1170
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: gotta give him credit because everyone thought the season was

1171
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: over last week, and perhaps it is. Perhaps the Giant

1172
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: stink and they're gonna end up. We'll look back at

1173
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: this in a couple of months and they'll be two

1174
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: and nine or whatever. But when you lose that game

1175
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: the way you did to the Falcons, to go on

1176
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: the road in that supercharged atmosphere and find a way

1177
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: to come back. And I think Sae Kwon Barkley is

1178
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: a key to all this for well, two things. Daniel

1179
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: Jones again, when you look at his game by game

1180
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: results and I haven't seen this game yet, but I'm

1181
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. He seems like he's making progress

1182
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,959
Speaker 1: as a passer. And then you factor in se Quon,

1183
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: who I thought he looked very close to peak, maybe

1184
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: not peak, but star se Kuan last week. And now

1185
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers again and he is a

1186
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: huge factor in the running game and as a receiver.

1187
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: That's big news for the job. Hundred twenty six yards

1188
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: from scrimmage. Right after that sequence, I was talking about

1189
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: the Giants get one of their two one play drives

1190
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: in this game. It was it was kind of a

1191
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: freaky game. They had a one play drive in the

1192
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: first half, first touchdown of the game, fifty two yards

1193
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: to John Ross after a weird Sean Ross. I'd get

1194
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: to that one. And then another one play drive se

1195
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: kuon Barkley for fifty four where he beats Marshawn Lattimore.

1196
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: So that tells you it was a great play called

1197
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: by Jason garrett Um and they fooled Lattimore who did

1198
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: not think Barkley was gonna cut it up field beautiful past.

1199
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones played so clean four two yards to who scores.

1200
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: His pick was on a Hail Mary interception at the

1201
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: end of the first half, so that's not even against him,

1202
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: no mistakes, has made great decisions. You're write about Barkley,

1203
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: and I don't think you could have a more positive

1204
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: game in terms of the Giants offense, because not only

1205
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: did Barkley, you know, make those big plays, including the

1206
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: game winner. It's awesome when you get the game winning

1207
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: touchdown in overtime, uh and that long play. But Gola

1208
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 1: Day was so big in this game six for one,

1209
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: sixteen and Darius Tony, their first round pick who everyone's

1210
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: been killing Ghettoman for has an amazing burst to his

1211
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he is explosive. So these injuries that they

1212
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: got to shepherd uh and slate and especially when those

1213
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: guys come back, maybe it's good because it made them

1214
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: come up with something for Tony And he was beating

1215
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: Pauls and Adibou who who's you know, been pretty good

1216
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: as a rookie cornerback, but they picked on him all day.

1217
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: His miscommunication set up the game winning touchdown against Golladay.

1218
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: Tony had a number of big plays in this including

1219
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: like a third and nineteen conversion. I was really impressed

1220
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: by him, so I almost thought, wow, Ross and Tony

1221
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: on the field, like we're cooking with some speed here

1222
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: this Giant's offense. I know they didn't move it all game,

1223
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: but at four five yards that's pretty good. I mean,

1224
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: to be without there. I know Holiday is their number one,

1225
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: but he hadn't been at to this point to play

1226
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: without two top receivers and still get four hundred from Jones,

1227
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: That's that's a big thing. So total and I do

1228
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: before we move that, I do want to point out

1229
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Sorry, yeah, it just seems like he he

1230
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: had a weird game. He he uh decided not he

1231
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: decided not to kick a forties six or seven yard

1232
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: field go in the first half, and he went for

1233
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: it on fourth and three and he hands it off

1234
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: to Camara. They don't get it. So fourth and three

1235
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: now again conservative, like that's a running down. Now didn't work.

1236
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: Then like the next drive, it's almost in his head.

1237
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: It's fourth and two and there further back, and they

1238
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: decided to kick a fifty eight yarder with Rosas, who

1239
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: hasn't made a kick in weeks, and they missed that

1240
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: very next play h John Ross with the touch that

1241
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: like there was another sequence where a penalty overturns o

1242
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: Jamis throw very very next play, they put Taysom Hill

1243
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: to throw it deep and he throws a wounded duck

1244
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: about buzzing about that one about fifteen yards behind an

1245
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: open receiver. I forget if I think it was Harris

1246
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: who if he hit him, it was a touchdown, throws

1247
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: it way back and then they blew And this is

1248
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: what killed me. They blew all three of their time outs,

1249
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: like early in the second half, and they needed him

1250
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. They could have tried

1251
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: to set up for a game winning field goal, and

1252
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: they those timeouts were gone like two in the third

1253
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: quarter and one early in the fourth. He just seemed

1254
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: like he was on the fritz a little bit. Jamis

1255
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: actually played well once he settled into this game. They

1256
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: should have let him throw a little more. It was

1257
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: not a good Sean pat obviously, Greg on tilt right now.

1258
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: I am sorry. I had a lot to say about

1259
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: that game. Listen, It's okay to be the hockey talk man.

1260
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: This is your new favorite team and that I just wanted.

1261
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: Now you're so off on this and you're feeling this

1262
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: emotionally this one. Um, they're a hard team to figure

1263
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: out right now. I don't I don't know, I you know,

1264
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: I have to watch this one, but they they are

1265
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: through four games all over the place. We do have

1266
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: to give it up to Darius Slayton before we go

1267
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: to for the all time coin flip performed. Really, I

1268
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: think in NFL history, dare I mean not Darius slat

1269
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry Rill who was out with an injury,

1270
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Speaker 1: but he fights through it. He's out for the game

1271
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: with injury, fights through it, goes out to midfield and

1272
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: puts up one of the all time CoInc performances. You're

1273
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: our visiting team. You have the choice. This is tails,

1274
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 1: this is heads. Hands. Yes, I'm confident we want that ball.

1275
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: Ask them just so good. Almost always when someone says

1276
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm confident, I'm confident, they are not confident. But in

1277
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: this case, I absolutely believed it. Who was that Pepper?

1278
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: See that? See the Odell trade keeps on paying dividends. Wow,

1279
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on and this will be a

1280
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: forty nine yards Oh it's on a New York City.

1281
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: If he misses, the Jets win out of the hold

1282
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: of townsend the snap, clean, the placement down, the kick

1283
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: on the way, does it have the distance? Hit floats left.

1284
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: It's no good, It's no good. He pulled it left

1285
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 1: and the Jets win it in overtime on the missed

1286
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: field goal by Bullock. They've got their first point of

1287
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: the sea. You know, Bob is shoosing is such a

1288
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: great play by play guy. We never hear him in

1289
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: the show because the Jets never win, but they want today.

1290
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: So let me have this Greg because it just never

1291
01:03:53,080 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: happens anymore. Randy, Randy, Randy. Down there. Randy Bullock was

1292
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: wide left on a potential tying forty nine yard field

1293
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: goal fifteen seconds left to give the Jets their first

1294
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: victory over the Titans at MetLife Stadium. Nice little home

1295
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: field advantage, Jets fans turned out. I was happy. This

1296
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: is a game, Greg, where it felt like more the

1297
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: same early on where the Titans, who were obviously they're

1298
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: missing a j Brown, They're missing Julio Jones, so you

1299
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: knew they were gonna be up against it. From a

1300
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: passing standpoint, they were gonna have to lean on Derrick

1301
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: Henry even more than they usually do. And in their

1302
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: early going it seemed like it was gonna be fine

1303
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: because the Jets offense was just never gonna get going.

1304
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: But then it did. The Boy who shall lead us

1305
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,959
Speaker 1: showed something here. Greg. I can't wait to go back

1306
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: and look at some of these plays again because he

1307
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: those plays when when you heard the Mormon Mahomes stuff,

1308
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: when Tony Romo said the things that he said, it

1309
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: was a couple of the plays in this game where

1310
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: he keeps his eyes down fields, he scrambles, he's fading

1311
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: towards the sideline, and then he just and the ball

1312
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: comes out of his hand. Remember in Tech Moball and

1313
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: like the Joe Montana pass would just go right into

1314
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice's hands like a couple of these throws and

1315
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: there was a big I think it was Corey Davis

1316
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: touchdown where he had his eyes on. Not only did

1317
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: he you know it was off platform, he recognized that

1318
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: the safety had cheated up and he pointed to Corey,

1319
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: get your ass downfield and then drills him with the

1320
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: big throw to put him ahead. And it was uneven

1321
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: because he also missed a couple of throws that could

1322
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: have put the game away. Uh. And it felt like

1323
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: the Titans were gonna go and get the Jets, but

1324
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: they got some luck down the stretch um a ball

1325
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: that maybe the tight end Anthony Ferks should have had

1326
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: that could have set him up at the goal line

1327
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: or even to win the game. In ot the Titans

1328
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: take a delay of game penalty that killed him that

1329
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: set up the Bullock miss and the Jets get to

1330
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: celebrate Um also getting to celebrate for the first time.

1331
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: Let's welcome my old man, Keith Hansas back to the

1332
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: podcast the first time in the studio. He'll gut about it.

1333
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: He's a big Jets fan. What is he going to say?

1334
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: Games to say? What is he going to say? Great

1335
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: win by the Jets. Tonight, the Jets finally breaking into

1336
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,479
Speaker 1: the wind column. You have to lose in the first three,

1337
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: and losing those first three pretty bad. So I think

1338
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: Wilson showed a lot of guts the way he played today.

1339
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: He's been taking a lot of heat in the papers,

1340
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm really proud of the way the

1341
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: whole team, both the offense and defense, came together and

1342
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: got it out a great win. So Jets, Jets, Jets,

1343
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: Now you go, Keith Hansas, greg Um. This is the

1344
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: progress that we talked with, the progress we hope to

1345
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: see in this game, the Jets being fun to watch,

1346
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: and at the Titans expense, who they're killing themselves because like,

1347
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: we need to go up there and beat the Jets,

1348
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: and here they're they're asking questions about themselves now too right,

1349
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: and they have to give Henry thirty three carries. I

1350
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: guess it'll never come back to haunt them. Um his workload,

1351
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: but man, it's big. Jeremy McNichols, their leading receiver, and

1352
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: Chester Rogers. You would just if you're Mike Rabel, you've

1353
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: been around for a while. I know there's a lot

1354
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: of new parts, but you would have liked to have

1355
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 1: a defense that could that could close this game out,

1356
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: not give up, not give up this many fourth quarter points.

1357
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: Let's bring Engraver. Justin Graver hates such a big Titans fan.

1358
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: He's got his own podcast. I'm not here to rub

1359
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: it into you, Justin, but I do. I felt like

1360
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: you should have the platform. What what are you seeing

1361
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 1: from your Titans? How much did this one hurt? I mean,

1362
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt that bad to me. Yes, I think

1363
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: if you're an NFL fan of any other team, you

1364
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: can say we didn't have at least we didn't have

1365
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: the data Titans had. But like, this division is such

1366
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: a mass that I feel like by the end of

1367
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: the season, we're gonna forget that this game happened. I'd

1368
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: like to forget it right now. Actually, I'd like to

1369
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: pretend this game didn't happen. They are playing for with

1370
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: a big margin for error division. Yeah, now, I think

1371
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: that they can survive in that division. This loss, but

1372
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: it just shows there another team like the Saints. It's

1373
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: kind of hard, hard to make sense of them right now.

1374
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: But also with the injuries that they're dealing with at

1375
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position, they got to get healthy because

1376
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: they were just way too um, they're way too uh

1377
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, predictable on offense, and and the offensive line

1378
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: didn't protect Tannahill either, so it felt like every third

1379
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: down was just a sack. Like every third down was

1380
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: a sack, right, I mean that was crazy. And there

1381
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: was a stat from from I think PFF it was

1382
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: our next Gen stats that you know, the Jets had

1383
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: four players with six plus press shures, just like the

1384
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: most most players with that many pressures of any team

1385
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: in five years. So it's not just like one guy

1386
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: beating them. Everyone's beating them play after play. They did

1387
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: have ninety three plays, which is outrageous, which makes me

1388
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: a little bit worried about that TETs defense. It was

1389
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: about to hop on hop on a plane, but thank

1390
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: you to the Jets so that we're not going to

1391
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: cover a game with two winless teams. We didn't need

1392
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: any jokes about that. The Jets are coming in with

1393
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: a chance to get instead it's to win one win teams.

1394
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: That's exciting. But uh, yeah, the Jets defense has been good,

1395
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: uh this season. C J. Mosley has been really good.

1396
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: Quinnin Williams is really heating up. Now there's some progress

1397
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: here and let's see if they can build off it.

1398
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: Let's now take a quick break and uh hear from

1399
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: our sponsors. All right, let's move on. They're gonna throw

1400
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: her hide it. He's got time now, slides to his left,

1401
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: looks at the thirty five back across the middle of

1402
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: the field and the kids that got the thirty turns

1403
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: to the trony fire. There's the corner of the troity touchdown.

1404
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: Where's the call? Make a call? Reference touchdown Washington. Great

1405
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: call by Bram Weinstein w T E. M. One of

1406
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: my favorite plays of Week four was Tyler Heineke off platform,

1407
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: swings it over to j. D. Mckissic, who does the rest,

1408
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: uh diving into the end zone. With thirty three seconds

1409
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: to play. After a hail Mary falls unanswered by the Falcons,

1410
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: Washington football team escapes with a thirty four thirty victory,

1411
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: locking it up for the old Zeus. Sir, but I

1412
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 1: can't really and that's three in ropers user, by the way,

1413
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: that yeah, this is championship. You know, lock runs are

1414
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: mostly about lucky breaks a big one. So I picked

1415
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, you never pick a mediocre team on the road.

1416
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: That was mistake number one. Uh, you never typically get

1417
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: behind the defense to deliver a dominant performance when they've

1418
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: shown nothing to suggest that's coming, which I did as well,

1419
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: and that didn't happen. So young and sweaty I think

1420
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: I called him on our TV show last week. Uh,

1421
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: yucking stinky something like that. It was brilliant, um, But

1422
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: that's still the case. They're not getting stops. But uh,

1423
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: luckily they were against the Falcons, who cannot close out

1424
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: a game. They had no business losing this game, and

1425
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: yet they did, right. I mean, not only did they

1426
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: give up those two touchdowns or yeah, there's two touchdowns

1427
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: in the final four minutes, they gave up a kick

1428
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: return touchdown to start the second half. So it's like

1429
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: a lot like when you get a kick return touchdown,

1430
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: and I always feel like you better win that game,

1431
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, especially in Atlanta, and they were still at

1432
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: the point where they're down eight going into it. And

1433
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: if you just look at those two touchdowns, that's the

1434
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: Heineke experience in a nutshell. The first one was a

1435
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: ridiculous throw, not in a good way. He just threw

1436
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: the Jamis Winston. I'm falling. I don't care. I'm just

1437
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: gonna throw it up, and maybe that's not a bad

1438
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: idea when Terry mclaurin's on the other side. My guy

1439
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: goes six for one and two touchdowns in his game

1440
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 1: and he just out muscles the cornerback and and catches

1441
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: the pop up with with three fifty left, and then

1442
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: that play with mckissic. That that's a good play by Heineke,

1443
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: but it also is extremely unconventional. And he's just like

1444
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: running to the opposite side spot six about five thousand

1445
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: times in the history of its good. You know, he

1446
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: was he had his wherewithal enough to spot mckissic in

1447
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: that spot. He knew where his checkdown was and there

1448
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: was nothing over there. That's a brutal loss Heineke. And

1449
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: this is he grew up in this area, in the

1450
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: Atlanta area. He completed twenty three or thirty three for

1451
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: two ninety three touchdowns. Yeah, some luck was involved, but

1452
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: he you know, he's got he's got some juice to

1453
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: him and he's Fitzpatrick White. I mean, this is another

1454
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: one those where Fitzpatrick throws right and you know, we'll

1455
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: see where Ryan Fitzpatrick is and where the Washington football

1456
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 1: team is when Fitzpatrick is potentially ready. But Heineck you

1457
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: think is making a case for being the guy right now.

1458
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: And I just want to say this for the Falcons

1459
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:11,520
Speaker 1: before we move on. Um, but cordial Cordrel Patterson, who

1460
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: for years and years people were trying to figure out

1461
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: this guy. How do we make him work on our offense?

1462
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: How do we make he's such a dynamo on special teams?

1463
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: How do we unlock Patterson? And I guess they have.

1464
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: I guess the Falcons and Arthur Smith have because he

1465
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,879
Speaker 1: became the first Atlanta player since to score three touchdowns

1466
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: in a game, none of them on special teams. Greggy,

1467
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: and he led the team in rushing again six for

1468
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: thirty four, five, eight, two and three. Is he is

1469
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: like a fantasy jugger not And yet you can't help

1470
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 1: but think like, wouldn't it be nice if Calvin Ridley

1471
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: and Kyle Pitts were bigger jugging nuts. They know they

1472
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: had an okay game this today, but it's like, yeah,

1473
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't think Pitts as yet to find the end zone.

1474
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: And Ridley, who I think a lot of his thought

1475
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: was just gonna light it up week after week. UM

1476
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: with Arthur Smith there it just hasn't happened yet. So

1477
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: the Falcons they head to London to face the Jets,

1478
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: coming off really a stomach punch loss. One of those

1479
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: games that was too bad because neither of these teams

1480
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: feels like a two and two team. But it doesn't matter.

1481
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: Washington's got now a little time to figure some things out.

1482
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: They are a two and two team, all right. Let's

1483
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: head to Orchard Park? Was it? Orchard Park? Pumps twice?

1484
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: Fires it now cut by Carson Knox at the five

1485
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: and he goes into the indo touchdown Buffalo Dawson Knox

1486
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: with a touchdown. That was just some of the fun

1487
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: the Bills had in this game. John Murphy with the

1488
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: called w g R Tremade Edmonds had one of Buffalo's

1489
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: four interceptions, and the Bills again just beat up on

1490
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: an overmatched offense, this time the Texans forty zip the

1491
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: final greg. The Bills held Houston to hundred and nine

1492
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: yards of offense eight in the first half, six first

1493
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: downs total. It's their second shutout in three weeks. The

1494
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: Texans had negative twenty three passing yards in the first

1495
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: half that this may not surprise you, but that was

1496
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: the lowest of any team in any half in uh

1497
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: at least twenty years. Pretty pretty deep into the game,

1498
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: Mills had more interceptions uh than completions. And yeah, you

1499
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: could remember we were talking it was like a seventeen

1500
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: and a half point line in this game, and it

1501
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: was like he couldn't make one big enough for Davis

1502
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 1: Mills against this Bills defense. We'll find out more about

1503
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: this defense. Uh next week they played Kansas City. But

1504
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: I've I've been really impressed by them. They lose Matt

1505
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: Milano that that hurts, but they have to be feeling

1506
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: great with these two blowout wins in a row heading

1507
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: into that big Chiefs game. Yeah, they're just building momentum.

1508
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 1: They're building their their steam. Now that's building here after

1509
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: that tough Week one loss. Now they look like the

1510
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: Bills and uh yeah that's that that is. We have

1511
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs coming up now week five. That is beautiful.

1512
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: That's a great game. I can't wait for that one. Um.

1513
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know about Houston. I mean the Texans,

1514
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: they they were shaping up early on is a little

1515
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: bit of like a underdog story. Everybody thought they would

1516
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: be the worst team in football and they're fighting week

1517
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 1: after week. Well, I mean, the longer Davis Mills is

1518
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback, you might just see more of this, right

1519
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: ty Tyrod is gonna miss at least one more week

1520
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: because I believe he's on injured reserved. Maybe I'm wrong

1521
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: about that, but he was expected to miss one more.

1522
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 1: They they're not going to be competitive as long as

1523
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: Mills is out there. But it's big. Sanders has surprised me.

1524
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders week after week has surprised me by being

1525
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: a pretty clear upgrade from John Brown. And they're just

1526
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: leaving him on the field. And that is a tough

1527
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: group to stop. When it's knocked Sanders, Digs, Uh and

1528
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: Beasley on the field, that is just maybe the best

1529
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: three by one set right now in the entire NFL.

1530
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: That hurts a little bit. Smoky Brown was always you know, yeah,

1531
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: we were fans of here on the of him on

1532
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 1: this podcast. And uh, but it looks like Sanders is

1533
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: really found a home there. Let's uh stick with the

1534
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: a f C East Uh and oh more trouble for

1535
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Wins takes a shotgun step steps up in

1536
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: the pocket, he throws at the left flat and it

1537
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: is I catch a contested grab Cox. He just wanted

1538
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: to more of the its own touchdown high y why

1539
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: and Matt Taylor w F and I with the call.

1540
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: The calls are alive kind of. Carson wentz through two

1541
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: touchdown passes the Molly Cox, Jonathan Taylor went over the

1542
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: century mark with a score on the ground, and the

1543
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: Colts got their first w of the season, beating the

1544
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: sputtering Dolphins. Greg uh, this was a game and the

1545
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: obviously needed badly and they finally find their way to

1546
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: the wind call. Well, sometimes the schedule maker delivers you

1547
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: the right opponent at the right moment, and I didn't.

1548
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: I thought the Dolphins were gonna win this game, but

1549
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: I realized during this game this was the right opponent

1550
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,440
Speaker 1: at the right time. The Colts did not pass midfield

1551
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: in this game Dan until under five minutes left in

1552
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: the second quarter, which you would normally think, oh, we're

1553
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 1: in trouble, but no, it was three nothing at that

1554
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: point that the Dolphins did not move the ball the

1555
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,480
Speaker 1: whole time. They only got that first touchdown drive Indianapolis

1556
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: because the Dolphins lined up offsides on a punt. Otherwise,

1557
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: like I don't I think they would have gone into

1558
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: halftime potentially without having cross midfield, but after that point

1559
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 1: it was one way traffic. It was the Colts team

1560
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: you kind of expected to see if you're an optimist

1561
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: going into the season. Jonathan Taylor really ran the ball well.

1562
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: They pushed them around for about three straight drives. Carson

1563
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: Wentz made good decisions. They actually hit some big plays

1564
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: down the field, some to their tight ends. One to

1565
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle was big that the mo Alei Cox made

1566
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: a couple of plays. Pascal had one forty one yard

1567
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: or it was enough, It was clean, and the Dolphins

1568
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: offense was just an absolute train wreck for most of

1569
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: this game. You'll look at the stat and see they

1570
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: got two hundred yards and thirteen first downs. You'll be like, oh,

1571
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: that's ugly, but that's only with two garbage time touchdowns.

1572
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: They barely moved the ball for about three quarters. I

1573
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: think they had six first downs and we're averaging about

1574
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: two yards per play against this Colts defense, which until

1575
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: this game had really been struggling up until the fourth quarter.

1576
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: In the game was over by then. I mean, you know,

1577
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: Jake Briskett is who he is, but he's also very

1578
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: capable backup quarterback, and we don't know what TOA is

1579
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: and we don't know when two is going to be back. Um,

1580
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: so this is what it is for the time being.

1581
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: But you know, you look at there, I know there's

1582
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: not a lot they're running back or it's hard to

1583
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: say what they have there. But Tavante Parker, Mike Jasecki,

1584
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: you have Jalen Waddle, there, Will Fuller, who I think

1585
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: hurt himself again in this game. There should be more

1586
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: explosiveness on offense, but we just haven't seen it. Well,

1587
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: they're so afraid Two do these deep dropbacks because their

1588
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: offensive line has been so bad. And the offensive line

1589
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: today was not not necessarily the problem, but they kind

1590
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: of max protected from what I could see, did everything

1591
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 1: they could to sell out and protect Jacobe and they

1592
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: couldn't scheme guys open. He held the ball for a while.

1593
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: It was just it was tough watch this. This would

1594
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: be a game. I know, we're going to London, it's

1595
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: gonna be tough to get in all the game pass games.

1596
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 1: But they have those like eight minute version highlights or something.

1597
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to choose one game for that,

1598
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: this this was not a fun watch. So it's that

1599
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 1: type of game. Okay, And how did Carson Wentz moved

1600
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: by the way, how was he looking better than last week?

1601
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: But not great? They actually they had a called run

1602
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: early in the game because they weren't respecting it, and

1603
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: he picked up about eleven yards and it too. It

1604
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 1: took a while. You're just like slide and then he

1605
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: he's the worst slider ever. He dives head first and

1606
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: because the rule is now that's giving yourself up, you

1607
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 1: can't fumble. But this is at least the second, maybe

1608
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: the third time where he just dives on the ground

1609
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: like a big goloof And then and then he found

1610
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 1: both the ball, but it doesn't count as a fumball

1611
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: because you're you guys just don't know. And I think

1612
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: a lot of times it's it ties into their youth.

1613
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,879
Speaker 1: If you played baseball growing up, you know how to slide.

1614
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 1: If you didn't play baseball, a lot of I wouldn't

1615
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: say a lot, but there's certain guys. I think r

1616
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: G three comes to mind. Did an RG three? Didn't

1617
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: they bring um? Then Yankees manager Joe Girardi in for

1618
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: like a session. I remember writing like in a round

1619
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: the League post about that um. That's the situation. But Yeah,

1620
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: the Cults obviously are still in trouble, but just like

1621
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: the Titans, it's the AFC South, so being one of

1622
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: three isn't a death sentence. At Baltimore next week is

1623
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 1: gonna be tough, But then you get Houston at home,

1624
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: so you know, who knows. If you find a way

1625
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 1: to beat the Ravens, who have been a little inconsistent

1626
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: of times this year, you could be defense showed up.

1627
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: We'll see. It was one game, but this is what

1628
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: Steve Weiss was saying coming into this week, maybe that

1629
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: the defenses are gonna start turning the corner a little bit.

1630
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: Like if I'm a Packers fan or I'm a Cults fan,

1631
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: you saw your defense squeeze bad offenses and you're thinking, okay,

1632
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: maybe they're gonna be okay at least the average. All right,

1633
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and then welcome in Kevin Patrick.

1634
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 1: Clock at six five. We're gonna turn in hand to Collins,

1635
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: who finds some running room and break three ten five.

1636
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:23,959
Speaker 1: He's in flips such a one touchdown Seahawks Alex Collins

1637
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: is gonna do his Irich dance and well he should. Oh,

1638
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: Patrick's Bongo's time, baby, let's go Patris like, I don't cass,

1639
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: look at that Alex Collins. He scores, he does as

1640
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: Irish Jack, and the Seattle Seahawks coast to victory over

1641
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: the Niners. Now that score doesn't tell you coast, but

1642
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: it was they were in control of this game. Patrick,

1643
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: um can I actually, at first, um, I need to

1644
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: go on the record apologizing for to Erica for last week,

1645
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: for making her go back and bleep out my swearing tirade.

1646
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm not not apologizing for saying those words. Just work

1647
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: that she had extra put in. Okay, we call that.

1648
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: We we call it Kevin Patrick as salt of the

1649
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 1: Earth tax and we know it's there will be some

1650
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: clean up. But he wasn't. No, Pat Patrick had a

1651
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: classic performance at the Super Bowl like six years ago

1652
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: that we still talk about. Oh right, that's right, well Patrick,

1653
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: we like him though he's shooting from he's shooting from

1654
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: the hip. As they say, I don't even remember what

1655
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: game you're covering at this point, Yeah, barn Burner in

1656
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Um, I mean, it was really a tale

1657
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: of the forty Niners not taking advantage of early opportunities

1658
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: to buried Seattle, who could not get off the ground

1659
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,759
Speaker 1: um to start the game five three ounce to start,

1660
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: negative twelve yards total offense in the first five possessions,

1661
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: and the forty Niners zoom right down behind Jimmy g

1662
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,839
Speaker 1: score a touchdown. You thinking this could get ugly for Seattle,

1663
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 1: and then it's completely flipped. Uh, Seattle went traight points.

1664
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: It's at one point in the second half or the

1665
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: third quarter, and it just felt like it was over.

1666
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: Tray Lance Trade Lance took over in the second half

1667
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: and he couldn't do anything, but he did anything go

1668
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: other than one huge play. And this is this is

1669
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: just the beginning for tray Lance. Sound this might be

1670
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 1: the official handoff because even though he didn't really heat

1671
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: up in this game and probably has a lot of

1672
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: work to do in terms of learning the offense and

1673
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: getting comfortable at this level. Jimmy Garoppolo suffered a calf

1674
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: injury and he was pretty despondent after the game. He

1675
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: said he anticipates being out a couple of weeks. You

1676
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: got the Cardinals coming up here for the Niners, and

1677
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: it just seems like now patra if Lance can put

1678
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: together any type of you momentum over than the next

1679
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, this will be the torch being passed.

1680
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 1: How confident are you that he'll be able to build

1681
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: off this game because there were some moments scattered in

1682
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: this game of positive nature for him. Yeah, when he

1683
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: saw the throw and he unleash it, he's got a

1684
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: cannon and he had one seventy nine yard touched on

1685
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: a busted play. Um, it's just he felt a little

1686
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: hesitant to me, like to pull the trigger, Like coming

1687
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: in at halftime, he just doesn't seem ready, like he

1688
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: was thrust into a situation that he wasn't ready for.

1689
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: The game plan didn't really fit his skill set. It

1690
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: kind of was like, oh, these are the four QB

1691
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: run plays that we have in the playbook for today,

1692
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 1: so we're gonna run him. But it didn't. It wasn't

1693
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: a Shanahan with the mobile RG three quarterback that we saw.

1694
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Shannon said after the game, he looked like

1695
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: a quarterback in his first you know, opportunity. But I'm

1696
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: having RG three flashbacks his first opportunity and go like

1697
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: destroying the Cowboys. And but that was with a way

1698
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: to prepare. And Shanahan did point out that they look

1699
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: they this was the game plan for Jimmy g it

1700
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: was it was Trey Lance behind center the whole time,

1701
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 1: and they were not really running the type of offense

1702
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: you would expect for Lance. It's a strange game because

1703
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,679
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, looking at the possessions in everything

1704
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: Seattle at seven three and ounce, they only had two

1705
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 1: d and thirty four yards in this game. Like explained

1706
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: that one for me. They got out game by like

1707
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: two hundred yards. Yeah, when you have seven five three

1708
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: ounce to start the game, of course your your They

1709
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 1: only really had two good possessions, um, because they're One

1710
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: of their touchdowns came after San Francisco imploding on special

1711
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: teams and fumbling a kickoff on Wilson made a Houdini

1712
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: type play to get out of a almost sure sack

1713
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: and threw a touchdown and that kind of that put

1714
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: them up two scores, and then they took the foot

1715
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: off the gas and the next drive after that they

1716
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 1: scored again, but it was thanks to a huge penalty.

1717
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 1: So like they really only had two good drives the

1718
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 1: whole game. The rest of it was like four yards

1719
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: and a cloud of dust. Russ couldn't really get it

1720
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: and going. He had a lot of passes behind receivers.

1721
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: Guys weren't making plays. The offensive line struggle to walk.

1722
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: For the most part, Alex Collins was probably the most

1723
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: impressive UH Seahawks offensive player in the game. Wow, And

1724
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: honestly that that's what I saw. He was running through

1725
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 1: guys and that touchdown that you called him the beginning,

1726
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he was touched and he just like

1727
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: we bobbed and weaved his way to the end zone.

1728
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: He's a fun player to root for given what his history.

1729
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 1: But overall, I would say the whole game was kind

1730
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: of like this kind of trippy experience because neither team

1731
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: looked like they were reading up for a playoff, to

1732
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: be honest with you, And I know that's you know,

1733
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: game script and the number of possessions and all that,

1734
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: and you said Wilson played a role in that as

1735
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: well in terms of their ineffectiveness. But I just wonder,

1736
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: in like ten years or fifteen years and Russell Wilson

1737
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: has retired, we'll Seahawks fans look back and be like,

1738
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: I can't believe there's so many games when Russell Wilson

1739
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: through twenty three passes in the entire game, like don't.

1740
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: You don't you want to have an offense where you

1741
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 1: just I don't. I don't want to get back into

1742
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 1: the let's Russ Cook debate, but they're there. Their need

1743
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 1: to establish the run no matter what. It's just frustrating

1744
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 1: when you hear about an offense that really has not

1745
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 1: been in year the last couple of weeks. Yeah, I

1746
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: don't think like you you can make these big sweeping

1747
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: generalizations after the first month. But one of my biggest

1748
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: takeaways just from the first month is that the Seahawks

1749
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: in the forty niners really do look like they've got

1750
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: some ground to make up. Obviously they do in the standings.

1751
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 1: Two games now they're behind Arizona and one to the Rams,

1752
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: But just in terms of the firepower and everything that

1753
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 1: we thought coming into the season, Arizona and in Los

1754
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: Angeles just look like better teams. In Seattle and San

1755
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: Francisco were teams that had Super Bowl aspirations coming into

1756
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: the season. They're gonna have to be a lot different Patrick.

1757
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: I think in the next couple of months. I've been

1758
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: very unimpressed with Shanahan's offense so far. We'll see, Yes,

1759
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: I think we're all excited to see what can happen

1760
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: with a new quarterback. But it's not necessarily going to

1761
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 1: be a magic elixer and they're gonna be humming, but

1762
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 1: maybe they will. That's the fun thing we get to

1763
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: watch and find out. All right, let's close it out,

1764
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 1: Patra with some Lions football. Oh yeah, I'd like this.

1765
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 1: How it's Lions football, not Bears football. Nap play fake,

1766
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 1: the handy cutting inside, the scotch tackle as he rumbles

1767
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: and he's in till the ends. One of the touchdown,

1768
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: that's all David Montgomery. That is second effort nine yards

1769
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: far side of the end zone, touchdown Bears Jeff Johnny

1770
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: at w BBM. David Montgomery ran for one oh six

1771
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: and two scores before leaving with a knee injury, and

1772
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: the Bears followed their nightmare Week three with scores on

1773
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: their first two possessions win over the Lions. Patcher. You

1774
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 1: were and that's it was the work of Ricky in

1775
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: the edit to clean up your language. But I know

1776
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 1: because I followed these things on social media that the

1777
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: listeners they liked the passion that you brought to that

1778
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: Brown the Bears conversation last week, and how hideous they

1779
01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: were um as an operation against the Rounds. Did you

1780
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: see gains for this offense? Did you see gains for

1781
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 1: Justin Fields and Matt Naggie and the whole experience as

1782
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 1: a whole. Well, playing the worst defense in the NFL

1783
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: shut certainly helps right run over a dead horse. It's easy.

1784
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: There shouldn't be one starter on the Lions that plays

1785
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: for another team. So I think that this was a

1786
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: perfect situation. And when we looked at the schedule, when

1787
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: when Naggi started kept saying, I want Dalton the start,

1788
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 1: I want Dalton the start. Once start, you looked at

1789
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: the schedule, like, okay, Week four should be Fields, They'll

1790
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 1: get through the Browns. Dolt will probably get destroyed and

1791
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 1: then who has an excuse to go to Fields? Right?

1792
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: So this it was would have been the perfect opening

1793
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 1: script for Justin Fields. My issue with Naggie was last

1794
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 1: week he didn't adjust when that plan went awry, He

1795
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: didn't change anything. This week we saw more motions. Uh,

1796
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 1: Fields got out of the pocket. He had all day

1797
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: for some throws to make, and it was beautiful. He

1798
01:30:55,360 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: made some gorgeous throws, deep throws. Finally, this offense um

1799
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,879
Speaker 1: stretched the field. He had nine nine of ten passes,

1800
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 1: included nine of ten passes over ten yards. Dalton had

1801
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: two for his first game and a half. Like so,

1802
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: this was just a completely different offense we saw with

1803
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: fields actually running vertical threat and Daniel uh Darnell Mooney,

1804
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Was it awesome to see that aspect of

1805
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,560
Speaker 1: the game come into because that's where he thrives going downfield,

1806
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna see more. We should see

1807
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: more from this, especially against the worst pass rush defenses

1808
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: when he's got time to throw. Well, that's a rough

1809
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 1: statement saying that no one on their defense should start

1810
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: for any other teams. And then I went through the

1811
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: list and Romeo Acquire of course would, but he was

1812
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,959
Speaker 1: lost to it. Sounds like in a season ending achilles

1813
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: injury in this game. And then I went through the

1814
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 1: other ten and you could make the argument, Patra, you

1815
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 1: really could, which is which is absolutely crazy. I found

1816
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 1: it funny that you know it was. It was a

1817
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: better day, a more sensible day for the Bears offense.

1818
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: And then after the game there's still so much negativity.

1819
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: Montgomery gets hurt for Bears, and then Naggi has to

1820
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: answer these questions about Bill laser now calling the plays,

1821
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: and you could tell he was getting upset about it.

1822
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 1: Who's getting the credit and he was like, well, it

1823
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 1: still goes through me. And then he also said, well,

1824
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna answer any questions about who's calling

1825
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: the plays anywhere. That's that's not why you want on.

1826
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: That is tough. That's his own fault for playing this

1827
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 1: whole game where I'm not gonna tell you scheme, scheme, scheme.

1828
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: It's his own fault. He's buried himself multiple times. He

1829
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 1: had a chance all week to say, starting fields, we

1830
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: have confidence in this kit, and he didn't take it.

1831
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: And he didn't take it. He's just made every wrong

1832
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: decision there is. This game doesn't change that they looked

1833
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: good against a bad team that kept shooting themselves in

1834
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: the foot the whole day. If we want to flip

1835
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: to the Lions and how you can get inside the

1836
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: ten yard line in your first three drives and scores

1837
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 1: zero points because you're that type of team. Um, Jared

1838
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,719
Speaker 1: Goff has two fumbles and then he throws at thirty

1839
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: five miles in the air over a guy's head on

1840
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: fourth down. And that's the kind of game it was.

1841
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: I just think what my main takeaway is justin fields

1842
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 1: showed what kind of player he came and be with

1843
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: his arm, with his looseness. He only got hit three times,

1844
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 1: sacked once. So this was the type of game that

1845
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: you you wanted to see, not the last week game

1846
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: your statuesque in the pocket. Uh. You know. I in

1847
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, I see Matt Naggy is this

1848
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 1: season's version Adam Gaze, And it reminds me of late

1849
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: last season when Gaze was talking about whether he had

1850
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: the play calling for the Jets over Loggins and then

1851
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: it was said that no, I I didn't. I'm not

1852
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: calling the plays, and like, well, we watched you on

1853
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 1: the sideline and the cameras on you and you were

1854
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 1: calling the plays and Loggins wasn't doing anything. He's like, uh, hamona,

1855
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: hammana hamana. It's that that's where the Bears are as

1856
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: as a team right now, just waiting to move on

1857
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 1: to the next coach. It feels like sometimes yeah, and

1858
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: it's and it's bad because I just don't think that's

1859
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 1: the right thing for this quarterback. I don't know, I'm

1860
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: giving giving two Bears fans. I know it's a lot

1861
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: of negative two, two and two. It's true you have

1862
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. You finally have a freaking good quarterback

1863
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: if the coach can just figure out how to use

1864
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 1: them properly the rest of the way. Again, it's good defense, alright, kay, Pat,

1865
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:13,520
Speaker 1: thank you buddy. No bleeps needed, all fire, no expletives.

1866
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: You're being nice to Ricky. She was being nice to you,

1867
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: trying to lock up your lions, and just like I

1868
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: love all the love in the air, rick I did

1869
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: it for you. I really next time asking me, what, Ricky,

1870
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Jared goff outside, Yeah, No, it's

1871
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: a it's a mental game because Greg doesn't want me

1872
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 1: to play and I'm still gonna beat them. You wait,

1873
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm what do they call it when you you know

1874
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 1: and ted lasso or he's like, you never asked me

1875
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: if I played Dark. You never asked me if I

1876
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: play locks? So you just wait, Oh wow, are you

1877
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 1: talking trash with me? And three, if you're I think

1878
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 1: you're five and fifteen last year or something like a

1879
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: coin flip. I think it's getting to the point where

1880
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 1: we've seen enough Erica to know that you're really bad

1881
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 1: at this. I try to pick with the smallest. Um,

1882
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: don't know that there's no victories in that. Just try

1883
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 1: to get it right, stay within as long as you

1884
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: stay within seven points of a favorite. Start being a

1885
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 1: little more conservative because this isn't working. Taking the Lions

1886
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: on the road. It's just not no way the popular

1887
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: pick this week. But it didn't didn't. Well, let's show

1888
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 1: you what the popular opinion lead you sometimes. All right,

1889
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:38,759
Speaker 1: thank you Patra, thank you Ricky Um for everything today.

1890
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: All right there it is the week that was, Greg,

1891
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: what a week This week that is upon us? Now

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01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 1: is our trip to London, England. Around the NFL Podcast

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Speaker 1: returns to the UK for the third time. It will

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Speaker 1: be me, it will be you, It'll be Ricky Hollywood

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Speaker 1: on for sationally Mark Sessler. The decision was made and

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Speaker 1: everyone was on the same pay and including Mark to

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01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: kind of stay home and continue to recuperate. So he's

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Speaker 1: ready to rejoin us on the other side. So that's

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Speaker 1: a bummer, but also the right move, right Greg, it

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Speaker 1: is the right move. No, I'm just thinking about thinking

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Speaker 1: about Mark, and I'm thinking about like he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: in fighting shape, the best shape of his life, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to close his season strong. With him, and

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Speaker 1: we'll miss him of course over in the UK. But

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Speaker 1: we'll have fun. We'll have fun and yes, we hit.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing all the fun stuff. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be at the Jets Falcons game, We're gonna be at

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Speaker 1: Sky Sports. We're gonna have not one but two live shows.

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Speaker 1: One's already sold out and there's one more late show

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Speaker 1: that's still for sale. If if you want to get

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Speaker 1: tickets before those disappear, the Top Secret Comedy Club dot

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Speaker 1: c O dot UK you'll find us the nine thirties show.

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Speaker 1: Go get tickets and meet us, uh heroes, fans, interacting, interfacing, Greg,

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Speaker 1: that's what we look to do. Interface, some some Q

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Speaker 1: and A. I'm I'm great with the interfacing. Oh yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Um all right, Ricky, okay everything, okay, Yeah, I'm good

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots and everything. You're okay? Yeah, thanks? Thanks

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Speaker 1: checking in. What about that other guy, what's the guy

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Speaker 1: at the top of the show, the haughty what was

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Speaker 1: his name? Chuck's Nick Chuck, not Nick Chuck, the guy

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Speaker 1: from the NBC, the fan, the fake Schwartzy. I wonder

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Speaker 1: how he's doing right now. And Schwartzy from Ashlyn said,

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Speaker 1: I'll shore for him when he comes out. But after that,

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Speaker 1: I want some sacks. I want to see our freaking

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Speaker 1: linebackers just pumble him and punish him. Yeah, I gotta

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Speaker 1: I want to go home. Can we go? Yeah, let's go,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go. Dan Hands is signing off for

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Speaker 1: the old Boss, Ricky Holly the Pipe, Patrick coming at

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Speaker 1: yet We're onto England. Pete the Oh