WEBVTT - "MY PARTNER WANTS ME TO SELL DRUGS"

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<v Speaker 1>Your girlfriend wants you to go back to selling cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what this says here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is this is true.

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<v Speaker 1>So what made you quit?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I just got too paranoid.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, but moving a lot of weight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that must be like consistent twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to seven paranoia doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, And I mean it comes with the job.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the Feds, there's the other people who know that you're,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, carrying a lot of cash. There's all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of potential potential enemies out there to sabotage you. Hello, Hello, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>is Tyler from Nebraska?

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<v Speaker 3>It is Can I.

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<v Speaker 1>Say here, Tyler? What you told the call screener?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, go for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler says here that your girlfriend wants you to start

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<v Speaker 1>back selling cocaine. Says that you are a retired drug

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<v Speaker 1>dealer and you've sort of quit the game, but she

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<v Speaker 1>wants you to start back up. Is that Is that

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<v Speaker 1>an accurate an accurate description of your situation?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, So how long were you selling cocaine for.

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<v Speaker 2>Cocaine? Not that long. It started out actually in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>started out with ecstasy and then I went moved away

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<v Speaker 2>from college started. Then I went into weed and that

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<v Speaker 2>just got too slow. I got money hungry, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I was selling QPA whax every week, but the money

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<v Speaker 2>was just too slow. Then I went into back into

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<v Speaker 2>selling ecstasy because that's what I was known for.

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<v Speaker 5>And then after that I took up cocaine and then

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<v Speaker 5>that's really where the money started coming in from all directions.

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<v Speaker 5>Even with that also it gave me more took ups

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<v Speaker 5>per se.

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<v Speaker 1>So why did you Okay, so you did that for

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you said a few a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's see, I started in twenty seventeen, so four.

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<v Speaker 1>Years, okay, about four years. So what made you quit?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>Well one of them is because honestly, I just got

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<v Speaker 2>too paranoid because I was moving a lot of weight.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure was moving a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Weight, like with the ecstasy, maybe like a QP every

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<v Speaker 2>like two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that must be like consistent twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to seven paranoia doing that?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, And I mean it comes with the job.

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<v Speaker 5>If you ask anybody, it's it's always like that, because

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<v Speaker 5>that's a I mean so many.

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<v Speaker 1>Times there's the Feds, there's the other people who know

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<v Speaker 1>that you're you know, carrying a lot of cash. There's

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<v Speaker 1>there's all sorts of potential potential enemies out there to

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<v Speaker 1>sabotage you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I mean I didn't, I know, I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I like with the weed, the money got too slow.

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<v Speaker 5>But I wasn't like that drug dealer that's gonna push

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<v Speaker 5>everything off, you know, like with the ex scene and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 5>I like, I warned people that, hey, this is pretty

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<v Speaker 5>close to meth, you know, and I would just I

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<v Speaker 5>would warn people about the dangers of these drugs, and

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<v Speaker 5>they still bought it.

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<v Speaker 1>So m hmm. Well, okay, so you quit because uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was getting to be too much for

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<v Speaker 1>you whatever. The money wasn't Oh and it also says

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<v Speaker 1>it also says here that you you quit because you

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<v Speaker 1>met your girlfriend and that was part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I met her. Two weeks later she gets pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>You met Wait so you got her pregnant two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>after you met her?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, ranted.

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<v Speaker 6>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was dealing at that time, all right, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was I had bands on me and for like two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks I don't remember shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so you have a So you met this

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<v Speaker 1>girl two weeks after meeting her, she gets pregnant, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you both decide to keep it. Yeah okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>and you said kids one now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Kid is one?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? And how are you finding being a father?

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<v Speaker 2>It's honestly not that bad. I thought it'd be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot worse. But I was in I was maybe in

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<v Speaker 2>like ninth grade when my mom had her second child,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she had another one, So honestly I felt

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<v Speaker 2>pretty ready, but there were still yeah h.

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm okay. And then how's your how's your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with uh? With your girlfriends?

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<v Speaker 4>Great?

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<v Speaker 3>Great?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you had a kid, uh okay, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing a bunch of weight. You meet a lady, you

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<v Speaker 1>get it pregnant, you decided to keep it. You're liking

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<v Speaker 1>being a father, it sounds you're getting along well with

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<v Speaker 1>the girlfriend. Those are all good things. But we have

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<v Speaker 1>a common flick now that you're telling me about, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that you managed to make it out of the

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<v Speaker 1>game relatively unscathed. It sounds and you're living your sort

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<v Speaker 1>of post credits scene life. But now your girlfriend wants

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<v Speaker 1>you to go back to selling cocaine.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what this says here, Yes, this is this is true?

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<v Speaker 1>Why does she want you to go back? It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like everything is kind of working out for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. You know, we both have good jobs. I

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<v Speaker 2>told the screener that, you know, with both of our

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<v Speaker 2>incomes and we make five to six grand a month,

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<v Speaker 2>so I mean, it's not not terrible. There's no need

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<v Speaker 2>like we have. We're not living paycheck to paycheck.

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<v Speaker 1>We told them, why does she Why does she want

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<v Speaker 1>you to go back to selling cocaine? Then if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are doing well, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Extra money is what she says. Because I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>I putt it into perspective, So if I if I

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<v Speaker 2>were to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Like an out of coke, sure I can maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Fut that for a seven to eight hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, I listen, listen, you don't have to sell

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<v Speaker 1>us on the idea that dealing drugs is profitable. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all can get behind. No, yeah, that idea

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<v Speaker 1>in and of itself, But I listen, man, you clearly

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<v Speaker 1>have an entrepreneurial spirit in you.

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<v Speaker 4>Do.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that could be applied to things that are less

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous for you and your family and less detrimental to

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<v Speaker 1>your mental health. And you know to whatever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to make extra money, are there other

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<v Speaker 1>things that you feel like you could do to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Definitely, But I think the pro who I'm here?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I haven't answered too completely about it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think it might be the fact that the money comes

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<v Speaker 2>in so fast, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, right, but as fast as it comes, it too can.

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<v Speaker 3>Go Oh yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're you're I don't have to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that you already know that. So I guess what I'm wondering.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay, so your girlfriend wants you to get

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<v Speaker 1>back into it. I mean, how do you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>what your girlfriend is telling you?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know I could do it because I'm smart,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's always that lingering paranoia around your shoulder, you know, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, you never know what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know if like someone has if the feeds

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<v Speaker 2>have eyes on you or not. You just never know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like you know that that eats and inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And you know, listen, this is hard because I

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<v Speaker 1>try not to tell people what to do, but just

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<v Speaker 1>to like lay it out here what you've told me.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you spent four years with this, this

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<v Speaker 1>paranoid that you're describing like weighing very heavily on you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got out of it, and now you're you're chilling.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a lot of the times, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>meeting a girl getting her pregnant, that relationship doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>destined to work out, but it sounds like it's working out.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like fatherhood's working out for you. Like you keep

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<v Speaker 1>hitting all these very like lucky strides. Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>want to jeopardize all the luck that you've received.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and like I mean, I've had I've had

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<v Speaker 2>a close ass call before, like scariest shit. Sal don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to like go through that because like if I

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<v Speaker 2>would have got caught that one time, would have went

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<v Speaker 2>it prison easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude, I mean mm hmm okay, so but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean so so so here, tell me tell me this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say let's say you go back to your girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>and you say, listen, babe, you know, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that with some extra money, we could, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get a better place to live, get some better stuff

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<v Speaker 1>for our kid. This that the other thing. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going back to that life. We got to find

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<v Speaker 1>a better way to do it. You tell her all

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<v Speaker 1>that what do we think, she says, how do we

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<v Speaker 1>think would she be supportive of you and your decisions?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, but you know, I bet she would, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give me that like fine, fucking whatever type shit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, what what.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you leaning towards doing at the at this current point?

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<v Speaker 2>See, I mean the extra money would be nice, don't

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<v Speaker 2>get me rob it comes fast. But like you know

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<v Speaker 2>you said, and as most people know, as fast as

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<v Speaker 2>it comes, it can get taken away just like that,

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<v Speaker 2>even faster.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Tyler, I just I want to I mean like

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<v Speaker 1>you you you got you like I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>if you know. I mean, you know how lucky you

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<v Speaker 1>got with all this, Like in in many of the

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of your you. You got lucky being able to

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<v Speaker 1>deal drugs for four years and not get caught. You

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<v Speaker 1>got lucky that this girl that you got pregnant, that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are actually getting along with each other. You

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<v Speaker 1>got lucky that you know fatherhood is is coming natural

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<v Speaker 1>to you and not you know, giving you a hard time.

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<v Speaker 1>You got lucky that you found a nice job, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're sitting in all your blessings. Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>want to fuck.

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<v Speaker 7>That up.

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<v Speaker 2>Brutal, because then, you know, if I get caught, that

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<v Speaker 2>just means I leave her with two kids.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could call you leave her with two kids,

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<v Speaker 1>there's two us as a second kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, he was there before I came into the relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so she had not mine, but I treat him

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<v Speaker 3>as my own.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, you got a whole family here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, dude, got a dog too.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're living the white pick of fence dream. You know, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you trade the white snow for the white pick offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I said that, but uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why you would want to fuck that up? Tyler.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, let's do that. What what else? Can what? What?

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<v Speaker 1>Before we go? What else can we do besides dealing

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<v Speaker 1>drugs to bring in some extra money? Can? Can? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you at least ponder some of that? Because look, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it, you want to hustle your your You're clearly

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<v Speaker 1>have an entrepreneurial spirit. You clearly care a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>providing for your family. Those are all good, uh instincts

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<v Speaker 1>to have. But I just hope that you follow those

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<v Speaker 1>instincts productively.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, dude, I will, I mean, yeah, I'm a hustler,

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<v Speaker 2>like anything that makes money. Like I've started doing making drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I like making making rugs sounds way

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<v Speaker 1>more legal than dealing drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean I can definitely find something do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that. I don't like telling people what to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna do that. Do the rug thing, get

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<v Speaker 1>artistic with it, find better ways to bring in more money,

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<v Speaker 1>because I like we've established a thousand times you have

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<v Speaker 1>clearly gotten very lucky with this whole situation, and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to fuck that up for no reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Bro, all right, the computer.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I would I would like to give a

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to your screener forgot his name, but he

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<v Speaker 2>is a bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. That was either Tim or Andrew.

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<v Speaker 2>Got Mud, I don't know. We were talking and he

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<v Speaker 2>said he met you before you started. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>mod in the Switch and Discord and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you just asked him to be a screener.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Tyler, thank you very much for calling, and good

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<v Speaker 1>luck to you in your future endeavors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bro, take care of Lyle, stay safe, Tyler.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler, Tyler, that was an interesting one. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>I was baffled by this because he seemed like he

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<v Speaker 1>had it made right, because there's just so many things

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<v Speaker 1>that could have gone wrong, with the drug dealing and

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, being a young father, and with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of being in this situation with this other

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<v Speaker 1>person where you know, she got roped up in all this,

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<v Speaker 1>and those relationships are almost always fucking doomed to fail.

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<v Speaker 1>But it worked out for him. It's just he keeps

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<v Speaker 1>he keeps pressing luck, you know. But he sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>he sounded like he's a smart man who will hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>make a good decision. Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, thank you for sharing.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Connor, Hello, how's life? Connor?

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<v Speaker 4>Hi?

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<v Speaker 8>It's okay, Life's still care right now? How are you doing,

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<v Speaker 8>mister ghetto Connor?

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<v Speaker 1>It says here you're twenty two years old, You're from

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<v Speaker 1>New York, and you have an addiction to Gatorade. Says

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<v Speaker 1>you drink eight bottles a day and as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>your shit is whatever color of gatorade you drink. It

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<v Speaker 1>also says here that you're planning to turn it into

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<v Speaker 1>an art project by trying to see how colorful of

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<v Speaker 1>a shit you can make by combining different Gatorade colors.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually like that idea. Is this is this all accurate?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? That admittedly yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's a lot of aspects to this that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to get into. But let's start with the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of your addiction. Uh what what kind of gatorade?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>The Gatorade zero? Is it? The regular Gatorade? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>The g two?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>It is?

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<v Speaker 8>I like the ones that have the little like baby

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<v Speaker 8>bottle at the top because I feel like a baby

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<v Speaker 8>when I drink it, Like the really vertically tall ones,

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<v Speaker 8>the skinny ones, and like any color.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm, you'll drink any color.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, I'm not biased based on based on the

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<v Speaker 8>flavor of color.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're you are open to any color, but

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<v Speaker 1>is there any color in particular that you are actively

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<v Speaker 1>uh the biggest fan.

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<v Speaker 8>Of I'd say blue? And that's that's the scariest one.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by scary?

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<v Speaker 8>Because like, like when I poop, like you can have

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<v Speaker 8>like green poop, and you could have like red poop

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<v Speaker 8>based on like like I don't know medical conditions, but

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<v Speaker 8>like I don't know what medical.

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<v Speaker 4>Condition gives you blue poop.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, it's just so good but so bad at

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<v Speaker 8>the same time, like it's so wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>So right, So this gatorade addiction is that accurate? Eight

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<v Speaker 1>bottles a day? Does that sound correct?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'd say I'd say like eight bottles a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay. And are they big bottles or are they

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<v Speaker 1>the uh you said it's the one with the little

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<v Speaker 1>nipple on it? Yeah, yeah, there's like tall, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty those are pretty tall bottles, so it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>little mini bottles. Yes, okay. So you say it's starting

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<v Speaker 1>to affect you. I know that we mentioned that it's

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<v Speaker 1>affecting your shit, but is there other aspects of your body,

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<v Speaker 1>your mind, your spirit that all this gatorade is having

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<v Speaker 1>any effect on.

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<v Speaker 8>It's definitely making me hate water, that's for sure, because

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<v Speaker 8>like every time I drink water, I'm like, this isn't gatorade.

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<v Speaker 1>M M. How long have we been drinking gatorade for?

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<v Speaker 8>Or as probably as long as I can remember.

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<v Speaker 1>You let me phrase that question. I know that you've

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<v Speaker 1>been drinking gatorade forever, but like to this extent.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, I guess it hasn't really become a problem until

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<v Speaker 8>like this year really, because I've just been like I've

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<v Speaker 8>just been buying like the multi packs now and like

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<v Speaker 8>the so like I'm buying in bulk now.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm, So what what do you think it is about

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<v Speaker 1>Gatorade that has you?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 1>I Is it the sugar? Is it the electrolytes?

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<v Speaker 8>I honestly, it used to be the flavor, like the sugar,

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<v Speaker 8>just like in general. But now I think it's like

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<v Speaker 8>all I think it's I think it's I'm really just

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<v Speaker 8>trying to make something like creative with this addiction. Now

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's now the drive for like creative ambition

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<v Speaker 8>through shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you are driven by the creative ambition to

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<v Speaker 1>make a color of shit that nobody has ever seen before.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we're talking about this shit, is it a

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<v Speaker 1>singular color of shit or are you imagining sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a tied eye shit situation.

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<v Speaker 8>I think tied I would be the coolest. But so

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<v Speaker 8>far it's been single colors, just blue or red, and

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<v Speaker 8>I wanted to experiment to see if I can make

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<v Speaker 8>purple or if I can make like orange out of

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<v Speaker 8>yellow and red.

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<v Speaker 1>M that's ambitious.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a it's the the artist quarrel.

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<v Speaker 1>Some would say, where do you where do you exhibit

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<v Speaker 1>your work. Do you post online? Are you starting some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of gallery show?

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<v Speaker 8>Mostly it's just been been me just like admiring it

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<v Speaker 8>afterwards and just like kind of being proud of myself.

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<v Speaker 8>But I want to share it with the world, but

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not sure how because I feel like that's so

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<v Speaker 8>taboo and nobody would want to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's okay, you know what, here's the thing. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to find a a greater either social or philosophical issue

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<v Speaker 1>that you can claim to be exploring through your colorful poops.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tie it somehow into climate change? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>tie it somehow into some sort of religious background of yours?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think you could tie it to that

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<v Speaker 1>might have some form of artistic substance.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe I could like sell it as compost like like

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<v Speaker 8>like you were saying, like climate change, like kind of

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<v Speaker 8>for the environment, because like everybody sees like everybody sees brown,

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<v Speaker 8>and like you know, like I want to be like, well,

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<v Speaker 8>there's more. There's more just composts than than usage.

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<v Speaker 1>There's art, see I already about and that's good sign.

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<v Speaker 8>That's perfect, that's good. Then I could shock the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. I'm excited for you. Let me know when your

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<v Speaker 1>gallery opens. You know what's funny is I know that

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<v Speaker 1>we're fucking around right now, But I really do think

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<v Speaker 1>if you, I really do think that if you sold

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<v Speaker 1>this correctly, you actually could exhibit photos of your.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I never said that. I never said it's a million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar idea. I never said it's a million dollar idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do it. I want you to know. I

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<v Speaker 1>say this genuinely that if you you really wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>and you really like put your mind to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you got like some nice you bought, like a nice camera,

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<v Speaker 1>and you took really good photos of your different colored shits,

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<v Speaker 1>and you like had them printed by like a quality printmaker,

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<v Speaker 1>and you like were able to mount them and ship

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<v Speaker 1>on like a canvas, I really genuinely do believe you

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<v Speaker 1>could you could presented his art.

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<v Speaker 8>You are the first person to ever say that you

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<v Speaker 8>believe in my idea. And for that I am thankful.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>Therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Get go, of course, go get them Connor shock the

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<v Speaker 1>art world.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Have a

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<v Speaker 8>great night.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. Tell I've been to all these like

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<v Speaker 1>contemporary art museums and stuff, and are is all about presentation.

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<v Speaker 1>If you put I This is something I think about

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. If you took a video of your

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<v Speaker 1>dog on your iPhone and you uploaded it to YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>and the title the video was dog running around in

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<v Speaker 1>field and it had zero views, it would just be

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<v Speaker 1>some bullshit video on YouTube that nobody cares about. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you rented a gallery and you with like eight

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<v Speaker 1>millimeter film filmed your dog running around in a field,

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<v Speaker 1>and you projected it onto a wall and you got

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<v Speaker 1>like a nice engraved title that said dog running around

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<v Speaker 1>field Comma twenty twenty two, and you put it in

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<v Speaker 1>the MoMA or whatever, people would look at it and

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<v Speaker 1>they would go, oh, yes, that's supposed to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>That is art. So it's all about presentation. If you

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<v Speaker 1>take pictures of your shit and you post them on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram just with your little foam filter, people are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like, what the fuck is this? But if you

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<v Speaker 1>put it in a gallery and you present it to

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<v Speaker 1>people as art, now that's their first impression of it,

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<v Speaker 1>they won't question you. They really want. I hope Connor

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<v Speaker 1>does it. If he doesn't, I might I might have

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<v Speaker 1>to steal his idea, because I too love gatorade. I

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Philadelphia Museum of Art ago because I

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<v Speaker 1>still live in Philadelphia and there's a there's a piece there.

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<v Speaker 1>See how I called it a piece. See how I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to get into this. I'm getting ahead of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's crazy that I call this a piece. But

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that I just called it a piece unconsciously

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<v Speaker 1>just now proves the entire point of the rant that

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<v Speaker 1>I just went on. There's a piece in the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>Museum of Art of a it's a like little like

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<v Speaker 1>old box TV and uh, there's a recording. There's like

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<v Speaker 1>a looping video on the TV of a clown and

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<v Speaker 1>the clown is just staring into the camera and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going no noarrow, no, no, no, no no. And that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's in the Philadelphia Museum of Art. And I

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<v Speaker 1>called it a piece. Just now. If you dressed up

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<v Speaker 1>as a clown and you took a front facing camera

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone video of yourself yelling no, no, no, and you

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<v Speaker 1>posted it on your on Facebook, people will be like,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is insane. But if you do the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing on a fucking old video camera and you put

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<v Speaker 1>it on a stupid TV and you put it in

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<v Speaker 1>an art museum, people will call it a piece. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why Connor's ship thing is not that crazy. Bruce Nauman, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there we go. That's that's what it is. Shout out

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>to Bruce Nauman. All right, all right, that was my

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>little gecko rant on art. I hope Connor does this thing. Hello, Hello, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>is this Joe from Oregon?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Oh my god, this is absolutely insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks as it is for you. It is it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is even more insane for me that I find

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<v Speaker 1>it insane that you find it insane to be on.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the insanity is just going around then yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, insanity really is going around, do you all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing is, I've been doing this thing

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<v Speaker 1>normally on Like when I'm like shucking and jiving on

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, I'll like like snap, like bringing up immediately like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe from Oregon, your balls are twisted and your girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>hates you like whatever it is. Or I can let you,

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<v Speaker 1>in your own words, say the thing or how do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do this? Do you want to say?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Do you want me to tell? Say what?

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<v Speaker 1>The call screener said.

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<v Speaker 4>I can say a thing, and then from that thing

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<v Speaker 4>we can say things to each other maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that idea a lot. I like that idea

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. All right, you say your thing, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So this thing I wanted to talk about is something

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<v Speaker 4>is a thing that happened probably when I was twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>I was twelve years old, I think sure, And I

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<v Speaker 4>was a very anxious twelve year old. I had a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of anxiety. Basically, anytime some small thing would happen

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<v Speaker 4>to me, like I got a little cut on my finger,

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 4>I would be like, oh my god, I have necrotizing

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<v Speaker 4>fasci ideas. I'm gonna my skin's gonna fall off.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a freak. I was super anxious about everything. Well, anyways,

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 9>Playing paintball with friends and kind of just having a

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<v Speaker 9>very normal day, and all of a sudden, we finished

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 9>our game of paintball, we were leaving, and I was

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<v Speaker 9>sitting in the car, and all of a.

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<v Speaker 4>Sudden, everything just kind of went weird. And it was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like, I don't know, if you've just been

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<v Speaker 4>really really high before, it just feels like I have.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I mean basically the feeling of being

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<v Speaker 4>extremely high, but it was like pretty much like a dream.

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 4>I was like, what the fuck's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It says here that you had an anxiet episode that

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<v Speaker 1>you found out was called de personalization. That's what you're describing, right, yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you realization there's there are different you know,

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<v Speaker 1>terms for personalization.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It says you described the sensation known as visual snow.

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<v Speaker 1>What is visual Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, okay, So visual snow is this is also

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<v Speaker 4>something that kind of came along with this strange episode

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 4>where it's like a staticy like a static to your vision,

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<v Speaker 4>like your vision. It's kind of like when you look

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<v Speaker 4>at a TV and like you see that static, but

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of just like in general, when you're just

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<v Speaker 4>looking around, it's just this strange, like very very subtle

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 4>static that's kind of just aroounds when you're looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're twelve years old, you're playing paintball, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the car without your other friends, and this shit

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>starts happening to you, and it it sounds like it's

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like very intense, like like a psychedelic trip of some kind.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you react in the moments?

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<v Speaker 9>You do?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you freak out?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the best way I could describe the sensation of

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<v Speaker 4>this was kind of like it just felt like somebody

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<v Speaker 4>who can join me or something like that was just

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 4>on acid. I was like, well, what the fuck, Like

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's happening, but this is not right.

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 4>And it was just like I don't know, like I

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 4>had started being really fast, and I didn't say anything

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 4>because obviously it just it felt like if I said something,

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 4>I would sound I'm like an insane person. So I

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 4>kind of just out there and just kind of tried

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 4>to act as normal as possible until I got home

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 4>and I was living with my dad at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember what year this was, but I was around

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<v Speaker 4>twelve thirteen, I think, and I just kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>went home, went to my room for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 4>and then eventually I just kind of was like, oh, hey,

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 4>hey dad, this this there is something wrong, Like there's

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<v Speaker 4>something really wrong. I don't know if my brain's broken

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 4>or what's going on, but yeah, like I feel I

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 4>feel like I'm fucking like I'm crazy, Like I don't know.

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 4>Like he it kind of was just like this back

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<v Speaker 4>and forth for a while of just like he was like, what, well,

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 4>what do you mean? Like what what what the fuck

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 4>is that supposed to mean? Like you don't feel like

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<v Speaker 4>something's right, Like it doesn't don't feel like you're in reality,

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 4>like are you want? It's kind of funny.

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>And and while you're having this back and forth with

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<v Speaker 1>your dad, are you are you still experiencing the sensation?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it was just like this kind of permanent

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<v Speaker 4>sense of like I kind of described it as a

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<v Speaker 4>call screen, like it was a video game, but really

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 4>it was more like a dream. Like it was just

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<v Speaker 4>like it just seemed like.

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<v Speaker 1>You, for whatever reason, felt like you were in a

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<v Speaker 1>dream or you were you were experiencing your life, not

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<v Speaker 1>from your own perspectives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, like almost exactly like that just that strange feeling

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 4>you get in a dream where like people don't like

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 4>I kind of like, yeah, like the only reason I

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<v Speaker 4>said video game was just stranger because like we're talking

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 4>to somebody, felt like you were like talking to like

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 4>an NPC. Like it was just like, really like what

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<v Speaker 4>what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, okay, so this happened to you when you

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>were twelve years old. You're twenty five now, so this

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>was half your life ago. In any form, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in any form has this sensation appeared again to you?

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<v Speaker 4>So it went on for about like two or three

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 4>months kind of just like well, a pretty uh it.

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>It lasted two or three months like continuously.

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, no, no, and oh my god. It was horrible.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 4>And luckily for me, it was kind of on like

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 4>a summer vacation from school, you know what I'm saying.

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 4>So it was just like it's just strangely good timing

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 4>for something weird and horrible happened like that. But I

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 4>never ended up I ended up going like to a

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:34.439
<v Speaker 4>doctor and they were like, Okay, well we don't really

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 4>know what to say. You know, it's not like there's

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 4>anything physically wrong with you, so you know, they're like,

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 4>well you could guess, I guess you could get like

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 4>a cat skin and whatever. We didn't end up going

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 4>down that route, so there was Yeah. So so they

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 4>referred me to like a psychiatrist, and uh, well, I

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 4>don't know, like we were going to go down that

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 4>route and start figuring, you know, trying to figure out

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 4>what's wrong with me. Okay, but between me and my

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 4>dad trying to decide what to do, we did didn't

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 4>really end up doing that. It was more or less

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 4>just I guess me trying to self manage this weird

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 4>episode that. I mean, it was just like every day

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 4>I thought, Okay, I'll wake up and it'll be gone.

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you know what's weird looking back on

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 1>it kind of said the mede, this is fucked up.

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>But like you're twenty five years old, and like now

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember being thirteen, and in a weird way, when

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I look back on my memories of like being thirteen

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>in the summer, they feel like oddly psychedelic. It was

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<v Speaker 1>any part of this looking back on it like kind

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of fun.

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I wouldn't really say fun. I mean I was,

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 4>like I said, I was an absolute rack back then

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 4>when it came to anxiety leading up to this point.

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 4>And so this whole episode kind of just I mean,

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 4>I didn't talk, I didn't hang out with friends. I

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 4>didn't really talk to many people. I kind of just

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know if this made this worse, but

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 4>I just kind of secluded myself to my house, to

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 4>my room. I was constantly looking online trying to look

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 4>for answers because yeah, I mean, I didn't really seem

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 4>like there was many.

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so so it was not fun.

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.919
<v Speaker 4>It was pretty much the opposite. It's fun. Yeah, it was.

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I know you don't have to stand

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>me on that. I was just saying I did because

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look well, I mean I'm the onlyers I

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:38.720
<v Speaker 1>asked is because you know, people take drugs to intentionally

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>achieve the effects that you are describing, uh, you know,

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 1>for recreational purposes. So I didn't know if if it

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 1>was fun. But but okay, you're telling me absolutely.

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So so to sort of wrap this up, your

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 1>twe and what I what I wanted to know, and

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we got sidetracked off of this into

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>something because you were telling me the last of the

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>three months, which goddamn that's crazy. So okay, to wrap

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.439
<v Speaker 1>that part up real quick. It just faded away after

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>three months. How did that happen?

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know. So it's either okay, it's either

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 4>and this is just my own kind of theory. It's

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 4>either it went away or I sort of got used

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 4>to that feeling of just strange. I don't know, but

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 4>at a certain point it kind of started feeling like, Okay,

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 4>I can manage you know, this part of my life.

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 4>I could go outside. I can you know, I can

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 4>go because I mean I ended up, going back to

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 4>school and all that, and so it was kind of

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 4>just like I guess, gradually being forced back into the world.

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:56.760
<v Speaker 4>I started feeling a little more at ease, a little more.

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's seven a good way to

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 4>describe it, but all.

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, So this kind of thing of you saying you

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>don't even know, you don't even know if it went

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>away maybe just adjusted to it almost brings me into

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>what I wanted, what I really wanted to get at

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>before we go. Is you all right? Like I said,

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>this happened half your life ago, you were twelve, you're

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. Now, how do you feel now? Like has

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>this has this depersonalization thing happened to you at any

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>other stage of your life? Has it resurfaced? Do you

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:36.720
<v Speaker 1>have any connection to it mentally? You know right now?

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Like what do you where? Does this issue stand with you? Contemporarily?

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Temporarily I would say I haven't had any more like

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 4>very intense episodes like that. I do still struggle with

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 4>like anxiety, just as in general. I have gone to

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 4>a different therapists and have been kind of diagnosed with

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 4>like some what's call it, it's like a general anxiety

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 4>type of thing. But I don't take medications, and it's

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of just been a self managing thing, which

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't obviously, I don't think that's the best method.

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 4>I think I probably could use more medical or you know, therapy,

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 4>but it I don't know it is. I have not

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 4>had anything as substantial as that recur. But the visual

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 4>snow actually is something that I still that is still happening,

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 4>and I have still not had a explanation of what

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 4>that is.

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And you're telling me just you're telling me that when

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the visual snow happens, there's not a single party that's like,

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, it is kind of cool.

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So one way I could describe if you're in

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 4>complete darkness in a room, it is fucking just like

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 4>pure TV static, Like it looks fucking weird. I mean,

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 4>it's it's really strange. I went to an eye doctor.

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 4>They said, Okay, your eyes are fine. There's absolutely nothing

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 4>wrong with your eyes. The only thing that we have

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 4>not done, like I said, has been like a brain

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:16.240
<v Speaker 4>scan to see, like I don't know if there's something

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 4>physically wrong with my brain, which maybe it would be

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 4>a good step to do. But other than that, yeah,

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 4>it's it's pretty fucking weird. I wouldn't say it's fun

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 4>or cool, but it's it's interesting.

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Hmm, well, you know it's it's uh, it's it's weirdly

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>interesting to hear you say that. You you know, when

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you were twelve, you don't know if you if it

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>went away or if you just adjusted to it, like

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.919
<v Speaker 1>like you don't, like there's no way that you still

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like that now, but but you just kind of,

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, learned to live in your own perception of reality.

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 4>It may be just my I am living my own

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 4>version of reality. I mean, fuck, I mean, it's it's

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 4>weird to say it that way, but maybe I mean,

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking to the echo on the computer.

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.280
<v Speaker 1>It's true, you are talking to a gecko on the computer,

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>which is a classically psychedelic experience. So you could still

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>be depersonalized right now. But is there anything you want

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to say to the people of the computer before we go?

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.760
<v Speaker 4>I guess just you know, take care of your mental

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 4>health and uh, just I don't know, fucking I don't yeah,

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 4>that's you know, I didn't prepare anything. I'm sorry, but yeah,

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 4>just just just mental health supportant.

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Guys, Thank you for calling Joe. Appreciate you sharing your story.

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 4>Hey, thank you, love you get.

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I almost like I think I got like a weird

0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>contact high from that call, because I don't remember the

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>last I Oh, I'm in a weird headspace right now.

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the last I remember being present for

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 1>the last five minutes of that call, but I don't

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>remember the first five minutes. I only remember the second

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>half of that call. I don't know if it's I

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 1>got some weird contact high from the subject matter. I

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm bullshitting myself right now, but I

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 1>don't remember the beginning of that call. I only remember this.

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I only remember the last five minutes. The beginning of

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that call for me is in some nether place. I mean,

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I haven't recorded so I can go back and look

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>at it and I'll go, oh, right, But if I

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 1>just have to go off of my my currently existing

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>memory with no sort of photographic elements, the first half

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>of that is, uh is in another region. This was weird.

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>This was a weird thing. It's put me in a

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>weird headspace. Thank you. Who is his name? Joe? It

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>was it Joe? I think it was Joe. Hold only check. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. Yeah,

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:33.760
<v Speaker 1>it was Joe. Thank you for sharing your story. Joe. Hello, Nicky, Hi, Yeah,

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>how are you doing that?

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah? No, I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty good right now

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.360
<v Speaker 7>talking to the gecko on the computer.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an honor to be a gecko talking on

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the computer to you, Nikki. It says here that you

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 1>are twenty years old from California and that you think

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>this is a very interesting thing that we're about to

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>get into here. I have a lot of questions about this,

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say. It says here that you think you

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>gave your best friend and your enemy chlamydia in a threesome.

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>You're worried about telling them that you might have been

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the one to give them chlamydia. Okay, so this is

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a two parter here. I assume you're calling to talk

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that you're worried about telling them, and

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 1>we'll get to that. But first I want to know

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 1>how exactly you got involved with a threesome, in a

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>threesome with not just your best friend but also your enemy.

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Who is this enemy that you had tell me about?

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>This enemy? Oh?

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no, this so the enemy is.

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 6>A boy that her and I both hooked up with separately,

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 6>but she hooked up with him first, and like he's

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 6>kind of in our friend.

0:44:55.040 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 7>Group here, but like he comes over sometimes, and like

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.280
<v Speaker 7>they started hooking up. Maybe they hooked up like twice,

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 7>and I I had a boyfriend at that time. I

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 7>broke up with him, and then I started hooking up

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 7>with him. But I asked her permission if she said

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 7>it was chill, So I went for it and ended

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 7>up not being chilled and putting a damper on our friendship.

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 7>We got over it because we were best friends, but

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 7>like she was met at me for a while, and

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 7>you know, I didn't actually really like him. I just

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 7>kind of hooked up with him.

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:37.240
<v Speaker 8>So so wait.

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<v Speaker 1>A minute, hold on, ye, how is he your enemy?

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 1>What has he done to to? I mean, because because

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 1>this is a nikki enemy, I mean that's a strong

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:50.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a strong label. Is that someone who's really really

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>wrong to you, not not just once but continually like

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a like a I mean an enemy that's not just

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 1>somebody who pissed you off once. That's a recurring antagonist

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.359
<v Speaker 1>in your life. What does he done to gain this

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 1>title of enemy?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, you know, maybe he's not an enemy to the extent,

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 10>but he is the worst. Like he like just is

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 10>just so egotistical and like really bugs on my friends.

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 10>And like after he caused this damper on me and

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 10>my best friend's friendship, the whole friend group has kind

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 10>of turned against him because they realized how like much

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:35.359
<v Speaker 10>he like boasted about like cooking up with both of us,

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 10>and like he's just the egotistical asshole.

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>So you gave him chlamydia?

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I did.

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 7>I well, I don't know.

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Like all right, So so you're concerned about telling you, okays,

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:55.760
<v Speaker 1>he had a reason with this guy and your friend

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and you you think that you might have given them lamydia,

0:46:59.239 --> 0:46:59.879
<v Speaker 1>and you're afraid to.

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 7>Tell, you know, I he's he put okay, he put

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 7>us both in a group chat after we had the

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 7>threesome and texted us and said, you know, he said,

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:21.479
<v Speaker 7>I got tested and I have it, and we both

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 7>were kind of like fucked, we both got tested. We

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:30.879
<v Speaker 7>both have it, and I I was kind of thinking back.

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:35.240
<v Speaker 7>I was like, well, you know, I could have given

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 7>it to them because I had hooked up with somebody

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:40.880
<v Speaker 7>in between the time I hooked up with him and

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:44.280
<v Speaker 7>the threesome. And I never got tested.

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Look, here's the thing, uh, Nikki, chlamydia. Yeah, chmittee is

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:54.720
<v Speaker 1>not that bad. I've said it before on this podcast.

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I've had committee twice. I'm fine. You know, you take

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 1>a pill, no, and you're done. You know, it's not

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 1>like you gave them like aids.

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:13.479
<v Speaker 7>No, this is humbling to hear because like, I'm freaking out.

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 7>I did take the pills, and I'm I'm I'm fine

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 7>now I didn't have any any symptom. But just the

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 7>thought of like giving my best friend and my enemy chlamydia,

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 7>it's like a win and a lose.

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 2>But like.

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 6>Chlamydia, it's just.

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Nick Nikki, Nikki Nikki just just just well, first of all,

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm there's a couple of things here. First of all,

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you, I mean, look, sure you had

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:42.919
<v Speaker 1>sex with this other person and then you had sex

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 1>with them, so like, but I mean, look, we don't

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>know who. We don't know who your friend was having

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>sex with. We don't know who this guy was having

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>sex with, so could have been anyone at this point.

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, because here's the thing, right, it could have

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:56.839
<v Speaker 1>been anyone because we don't know who your we don't

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>who your friends been having sex with. We don't know

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:03.839
<v Speaker 1>this guy's been having sex with U was I gonna

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>say it? Does it even matter at this point who

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.919
<v Speaker 1>gave who what? I mean, you're all gonna take the pill.

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 1>You're all gonna be fine. Maybe in the future, I

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe you learn a lesson of some kind

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of of you know, uh, STDs are bad or whatever

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 1>it is. But at the end of the day, the

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>who did what is like, what is anyone even gonna

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>do with that information? That's you know, remotely productive. But

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 1>if it makes you feel better, I mean, you don't

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 1>know for sure it was you, unless if you got

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>tested beforehand and then you had exce with them, which

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:40.360
<v Speaker 1>that would have been bad. But that's not really what happened. Uh,

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't really think that, you know. I mean,

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it's anyone's guess as to who was

0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>patient zero here.

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no, that's true. Like I guess, it doesn't matter

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 7>in the end. But you know, it suck like everybody

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:06.440
<v Speaker 7>because he told all his friends and all my friends know.

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 7>And now it's just because STDs that are like embarrassing,

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:12.280
<v Speaker 7>like it is stigmatized.

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 6>But It's like, damn, we all like had a threesome

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 6>as it should be embarrassing.

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 1>It means you got laid, and that's who doesn't like

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to brag about getting laid. It's like, how is it?

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 1>How can it be both a stigma but also a

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 1>thing that everyone's bragging about all the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, because I mean that kind of touches in

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 7>the lines of like gender norms, because like, if a

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 7>girl's bragging about sex, she's sort of as a float.

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 7>But it's the boy's bragging about a threesome, he's like

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 7>a thing. And yeah, and and then you add somdia

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 7>to the mex and it's just what the fuck I

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:54.800
<v Speaker 7>don't know anymore?

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, uh, listen, you know you don't have to subscribe

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to gender norms. You can subscribe to whatever the fuck

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:07.759
<v Speaker 1>you want. Nikki, you know, uh, what do you what

0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 1>do you what do you feel in your heart is

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the right thing to do? Well?

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 7>I know my best friend wouldn't care if I gave

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 7>for chumydia. The guy, you know, he's a slut himself,

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:25.840
<v Speaker 7>so he could have definitely given it to us. Like,

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 7>you know, maybe I'm kid slut. But it's just like

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 7>it doesn't matter, I guess in the.

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:33.919
<v Speaker 3>End, totally doesn't matter.

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 1>In the end. That's the I would I would put

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>a period there. Honestly, I don't think it matters. I mean, look,

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>here's what matters. Here's what does. Here's what matters is. Look,

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>what's your name, Nikki. I've said it five thousand dollars, Nikki.

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 1>All that matters, All that matters is that you be safe,

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>all right, You be confident in whatever choices you're making

0:51:56.280 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>to do in your life. And that's that's sit at

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day.

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 7>That made me feel better.

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that.

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Good is there Is there anything that you want to

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 1>say to the people of the computer before we go, Nicki.

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 7>You should trick on streams. It's the best and most

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:17.360
<v Speaker 7>awesome thing you could do change my life.

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll think about it. I feel like I'm gonna permanently,

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like develop a twitch or something, and then I can't

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 1>be a gecko on the computer anymore. I don't know.

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll figure it out. Good luck to you in your

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 1>future endeavor's NICKI.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, thank you so much, Greg, Nicki forever, Yeah, never.

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Be goes on the line making your phone calls every night.

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Never becon, goes to time.

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Teaching you cloud in the mid of your life is

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 2>not an expert