1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Your girlfriend wants you to go back to selling cocaine. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: That's what this says here. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is true. 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: So what made you quit? 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: Honestly, I just got too paranoid. 6 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 3: Sure, but moving a lot of weight. 7 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that must be like consistent twenty four 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: to seven paranoia doing that? 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I mean it comes with the job. 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: There's the Feds, there's the other people who know that you're, 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, carrying a lot of cash. There's all sorts 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: of potential potential enemies out there to sabotage you. Hello, Hello, Hey, 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: is Tyler from Nebraska? 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: It is Can I. 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Say here, Tyler? What you told the call screener? 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, go for me. 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: Tyler says here that your girlfriend wants you to start 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: back selling cocaine. Says that you are a retired drug 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: dealer and you've sort of quit the game, but she 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: wants you to start back up. Is that Is that 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: an accurate an accurate description of your situation? 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's accurate. 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So how long were you selling cocaine for. 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Cocaine? Not that long. It started out actually in twenty seventeen, 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: started out with ecstasy and then I went moved away 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: from college started. Then I went into weed and that 27 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: just got too slow. I got money hungry, and like 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: I was selling QPA whax every week, but the money 29 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: was just too slow. Then I went into back into 30 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: selling ecstasy because that's what I was known for. 31 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: And then after that I took up cocaine and then 32 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: that's really where the money started coming in from all directions. 33 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: Even with that also it gave me more took ups 34 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: per se. 35 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: So why did you Okay, so you did that for 36 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: you said, you said a few a few years. 37 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 2: Well, let's see, I started in twenty seventeen, so four. 38 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: Years, okay, about four years. So what made you quit? 39 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 5: Uh, let's see. 40 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: Well one of them is because honestly, I just got 41 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: too paranoid because I was moving a lot of weight. 42 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: Sure was moving a lot of. 43 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: Weight, like with the ecstasy, maybe like a QP every 44 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 2: like two weeks. 45 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that must be like consistent twenty four 46 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: to seven paranoia doing that? 47 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And I mean it comes with the job. 48 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 5: If you ask anybody, it's it's always like that, because 49 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 5: that's a I mean so many. 50 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: Times there's the Feds, there's the other people who know 51 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: that you're you know, carrying a lot of cash. There's 52 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: there's all sorts of potential potential enemies out there to 53 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: sabotage you. 54 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean I didn't, I know, I said, 55 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 5: I like with the weed, the money got too slow. 56 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 5: But I wasn't like that drug dealer that's gonna push 57 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: everything off, you know, like with the ex scene and whatnot. 58 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 5: I like, I warned people that, hey, this is pretty 59 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 5: close to meth, you know, and I would just I 60 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 5: would warn people about the dangers of these drugs, and 61 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 5: they still bought it. 62 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: So m hmm. Well, okay, so you quit because uh, 63 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, it was getting to be too much for 64 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: you whatever. The money wasn't Oh and it also says 65 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: it also says here that you you quit because you 66 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: met your girlfriend and that was part of it. 67 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I met her. Two weeks later she gets pregnant. 68 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: You met Wait so you got her pregnant two weeks 69 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: after you met her? 70 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 6: Oh? 71 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: Fuck? 72 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 7: Yeah? 73 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: But okay, ranted. 74 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 6: I was. 75 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: I was dealing at that time, all right, and I 76 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: was I had bands on me and for like two 77 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: weeks I don't remember shit. 78 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: So okay, so you have a So you met this 79 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: girl two weeks after meeting her, she gets pregnant, and 80 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: then you both decide to keep it. Yeah okay. And 81 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: and you said kids one now. 82 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 4: Yes? 83 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: Kid is one? 84 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 4: Yes? 85 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: Okay? And how are you finding being a father? 86 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: It's honestly not that bad. I thought it'd be a 87 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: lot worse. But I was in I was maybe in 88 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: like ninth grade when my mom had her second child, 89 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: and then she had another one, So honestly I felt 90 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: pretty ready, but there were still yeah h. 91 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: M hmm okay. And then how's your how's your relationship 92 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: with uh? With your girlfriends? 93 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: Great? 94 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 3: Great? 95 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: Okay, So you had a kid, uh okay, So you're 96 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: dealing a bunch of weight. You meet a lady, you 97 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: get it pregnant, you decided to keep it. You're liking 98 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: being a father, it sounds you're getting along well with 99 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: the girlfriend. Those are all good things. But we have 100 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: a common flick now that you're telling me about, which 101 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: is that you managed to make it out of the 102 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: game relatively unscathed. It sounds and you're living your sort 103 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: of post credits scene life. But now your girlfriend wants 104 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: you to go back to selling cocaine. 105 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 3: That's what this says here, Yes, this is this is true? 106 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Why does she want you to go back? It sounds 107 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: like everything is kind of working out for you guys. 108 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: It is. You know, we both have good jobs. I 109 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: told the screener that, you know, with both of our 110 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: incomes and we make five to six grand a month, 111 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: so I mean, it's not not terrible. There's no need 112 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: like we have. We're not living paycheck to paycheck. 113 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: We told them, why does she Why does she want 114 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: you to go back to selling cocaine? Then if you 115 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: guys are doing well, the. 116 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: Extra money is what she says. Because I mean, if 117 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: I putt it into perspective, So if I if I 118 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: were to get. 119 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: Like an out of coke, sure I can maybe. 120 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: Fut that for a seven to eight hundred dollars. 121 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I listen, listen, you don't have to sell 122 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: us on the idea that dealing drugs is profitable. I 123 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: think we all can get behind. No, yeah, that idea 124 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: in and of itself, But I listen, man, you clearly 125 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: have an entrepreneurial spirit in you. 126 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: Do. 127 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: Maybe that could be applied to things that are less 128 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: dangerous for you and your family and less detrimental to 129 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: your mental health. And you know to whatever. I mean, 130 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: if you want to make extra money, are there other 131 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: things that you feel like you could do to do that? 132 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: Oh? Definitely, But I think the pro who I'm here? 133 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: Maybe I haven't answered too completely about it, but I 134 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: think it might be the fact that the money comes 135 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: in so fast, you. 136 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: Know, right, but as fast as it comes, it too can. 137 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: Go Oh yeah, definitely. 138 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're I don't have to tell you 139 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: that you already know that. So I guess what I'm wondering. 140 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so your girlfriend wants you to get 141 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: back into it. I mean, how do you feel about 142 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: what your girlfriend is telling you? 143 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I know I could do it because I'm smart, 144 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: but there's always that lingering paranoia around your shoulder, you know, sure, 145 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: because I mean, you never know what's going to happen. 146 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: You don't know if like someone has if the feeds 147 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: have eyes on you or not. You just never know. 148 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: And I feel like you know that that eats and inside. 149 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: Right, And you know, listen, this is hard because I 150 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: try not to tell people what to do, but just 151 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: to like lay it out here what you've told me. 152 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like you spent four years with this, this 153 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: paranoid that you're describing like weighing very heavily on you, 154 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: and you got out of it, and now you're you're chilling. 155 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the times, like you know, 156 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: meeting a girl getting her pregnant, that relationship doesn't sound 157 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: destined to work out, but it sounds like it's working out. 158 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Sounds like fatherhood's working out for you. Like you keep 159 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: hitting all these very like lucky strides. Why would you 160 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: want to jeopardize all the luck that you've received. 161 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: I know, and like I mean, I've had I've had 162 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 2: a close ass call before, like scariest shit. Sal don't 163 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: want to like go through that because like if I 164 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: would have got caught that one time, would have went 165 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: it prison easy. 166 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I mean mm hmm okay, so but I 167 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: mean so so so here, tell me tell me this. 168 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Let's say let's say you go back to your girlfriend 169 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: and you say, listen, babe, you know, I get it. 170 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: I get that with some extra money, we could, you know, 171 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: get a better place to live, get some better stuff 172 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: for our kid. This that the other thing. But I'm 173 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: not going back to that life. We got to find 174 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: a better way to do it. You tell her all 175 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: that what do we think, she says, how do we 176 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: think would she be supportive of you and your decisions? 177 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 4: Oh? 178 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: Definitely, but you know, I bet she would, you know, 179 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: give me that like fine, fucking whatever type shit. 180 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 3: You know, what what. 181 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: Are you leaning towards doing at the at this current point? 182 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: See, I mean the extra money would be nice, don't 183 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: get me rob it comes fast. But like you know 184 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: you said, and as most people know, as fast as 185 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: it comes, it can get taken away just like that, 186 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: even faster. 187 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: Man, Tyler, I just I want to I mean like 188 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: you you you got you like I don't even know 189 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: if you know. I mean, you know how lucky you 190 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: got with all this, Like in in many of the 191 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: aspects of your you. You got lucky being able to 192 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: deal drugs for four years and not get caught. You 193 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: got lucky that this girl that you got pregnant, that 194 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: you guys are actually getting along with each other. You 195 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: got lucky that you know fatherhood is is coming natural 196 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: to you and not you know, giving you a hard time. 197 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: You got lucky that you found a nice job, like 198 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: you're you're sitting in all your blessings. Why would you 199 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: want to fuck. 200 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 7: That up. 201 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: Brutal, because then, you know, if I get caught, that 202 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: just means I leave her with two kids. 203 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: If you could call you leave her with two kids, 204 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: there's two us as a second kid. 205 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: Uh, he was there before I came into the relationship. 206 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so she had not mine, but I treat him 207 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: as my own. 208 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you got a whole family here. 209 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, got a dog too. 210 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: You're you're living the white pick of fence dream. You know, Uh, 211 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: you trade the white snow for the white pick offense. 212 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't know why I said that, but uh, I 213 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: don't know why you would want to fuck that up? Tyler. 214 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. 215 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: Here, let's do that. What what else? Can what? What? 216 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: Before we go? What else can we do besides dealing 217 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: drugs to bring in some extra money? Can? Can? Can 218 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: you at least ponder some of that? Because look, I 219 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: get it, you want to hustle your your You're clearly 220 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: have an entrepreneurial spirit. You clearly care a lot about 221 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: providing for your family. Those are all good, uh instincts 222 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: to have. But I just hope that you follow those 223 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: instincts productively. 224 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, I will, I mean, yeah, I'm a hustler, 225 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: like anything that makes money. Like I've started doing making drugs. 226 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: I love it. I like making making rugs sounds way 227 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: more legal than dealing drugs. 228 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. 229 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I can definitely find something do that. 230 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: Do that. I don't like telling people what to do, 231 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do that. Do the rug thing, get 232 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: artistic with it, find better ways to bring in more money, 233 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: because I like we've established a thousand times you have 234 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: clearly gotten very lucky with this whole situation, and you 235 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: don't want to fuck that up for no reason. 236 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, all right, the computer. 237 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: You know, I would I would like to give a 238 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: shout out to your screener forgot his name, but he 239 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: is a bro. 240 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: Beautiful. That was either Tim or Andrew. 241 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: Got Mud, I don't know. We were talking and he 242 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: said he met you before you started. He was a 243 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: mod in the Switch and Discord and then you know, 244 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: you just asked him to be a screener. 245 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: Well, Tyler, thank you very much for calling, and good 246 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: luck to you in your future endeavors. 247 00:14:52,320 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, take care of Lyle, stay safe, Tyler. 248 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Tyler, Tyler, that was an interesting one. I don't know 249 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: I was baffled by this because he seemed like he 250 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: had it made right, because there's just so many things 251 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: that could have gone wrong, with the drug dealing and 252 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: with you know, being a young father, and with you know, 253 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: just sort of being in this situation with this other 254 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: person where you know, she got roped up in all this, 255 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: and those relationships are almost always fucking doomed to fail. 256 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: But it worked out for him. It's just he keeps 257 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: he keeps pressing luck, you know. But he sounded like 258 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: he sounded like he's a smart man who will hopefully 259 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: make a good decision. Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, thank you for sharing. 260 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: Hello Connor, Hello, how's life? Connor? 261 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: Hi? 262 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 8: It's okay, Life's still care right now? How are you doing, 263 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 8: mister ghetto Connor? 264 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: It says here you're twenty two years old, You're from 265 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: New York, and you have an addiction to Gatorade. Says 266 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: you drink eight bottles a day and as a result, 267 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: your shit is whatever color of gatorade you drink. It 268 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: also says here that you're planning to turn it into 269 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: an art project by trying to see how colorful of 270 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: a shit you can make by combining different Gatorade colors. 271 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: I actually like that idea. Is this is this all accurate? 272 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 8: Yeah? That admittedly yes. 273 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: Okay, there's a lot of aspects to this that we 274 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: need to get into. But let's start with the nature 275 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: of your addiction. Uh what what kind of gatorade? 276 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 4: Is it? 277 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: The Gatorade zero? Is it? The regular Gatorade? Is it? 278 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: The g two? 279 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 6: Uh? 280 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: It is? 281 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 8: I like the ones that have the little like baby 282 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 8: bottle at the top because I feel like a baby 283 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 8: when I drink it, Like the really vertically tall ones, 284 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 8: the skinny ones, and like any color. 285 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: M hm, you'll drink any color. 286 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm not biased based on based on the 287 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 8: flavor of color. 288 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 4: Do you have? 289 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're you are open to any color, but 290 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: is there any color in particular that you are actively 291 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: uh the biggest fan. 292 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 8: Of I'd say blue? And that's that's the scariest one. 293 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: What do you mean by scary? 294 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 8: Because like, like when I poop, like you can have 295 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 8: like green poop, and you could have like red poop 296 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 8: based on like like I don't know medical conditions, but 297 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 8: like I don't know what medical. 298 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: Condition gives you blue poop. 299 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 8: So yeah, it's just so good but so bad at 300 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 8: the same time, like it's so wrong. 301 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: So right, So this gatorade addiction is that accurate? Eight 302 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: bottles a day? Does that sound correct? 303 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 4: Uh? 304 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd say I'd say like eight bottles a day. 305 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. And are they big bottles or are they 306 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: the uh you said it's the one with the little 307 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: nipple on it? Yeah, yeah, there's like tall, there's a 308 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: pretty those are pretty tall bottles, so it's not like 309 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: little mini bottles. Yes, okay. So you say it's starting 310 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: to affect you. I know that we mentioned that it's 311 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: affecting your shit, but is there other aspects of your body, 312 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: your mind, your spirit that all this gatorade is having 313 00:18:58,960 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: any effect on. 314 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 8: It's definitely making me hate water, that's for sure, because 315 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 8: like every time I drink water, I'm like, this isn't gatorade. 316 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: M M. How long have we been drinking gatorade for? 317 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 8: Or as probably as long as I can remember. 318 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: You let me phrase that question. I know that you've 319 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: been drinking gatorade forever, but like to this extent. 320 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 8: Oh, I guess it hasn't really become a problem until 321 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 8: like this year really, because I've just been like I've 322 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 8: just been buying like the multi packs now and like 323 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 8: the so like I'm buying in bulk now. 324 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: Hm, So what what do you think it is about 325 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: Gatorade that has you? 326 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 4: So? 327 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: I Is it the sugar? Is it the electrolytes? 328 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 8: I honestly, it used to be the flavor, like the sugar, 329 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 8: just like in general. But now I think it's like 330 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 8: all I think it's I think it's I'm really just 331 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 8: trying to make something like creative with this addiction. Now 332 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 8: I think it's now the drive for like creative ambition 333 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 8: through shit. 334 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so you are driven by the creative ambition to 335 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: make a color of shit that nobody has ever seen before. 336 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's correct. 337 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: And when we're talking about this shit, is it a 338 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: singular color of shit or are you imagining sort of 339 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: a tied eye shit situation. 340 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 8: I think tied I would be the coolest. But so 341 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 8: far it's been single colors, just blue or red, and 342 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 8: I wanted to experiment to see if I can make 343 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 8: purple or if I can make like orange out of 344 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 8: yellow and red. 345 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: M that's ambitious. 346 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 8: It's a it's the the artist quarrel. 347 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: Some would say, where do you where do you exhibit 348 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: your work. Do you post online? Are you starting some 349 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: sort of gallery show? 350 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 8: Mostly it's just been been me just like admiring it 351 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 8: afterwards and just like kind of being proud of myself. 352 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 8: But I want to share it with the world, but 353 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 8: I'm not sure how because I feel like that's so 354 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 8: taboo and nobody would want to see it. 355 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: Here's okay, you know what, here's the thing. You need 356 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: to find a a greater either social or philosophical issue 357 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: that you can claim to be exploring through your colorful poops. 358 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: Can you tie it somehow into climate change? Can you 359 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: tie it somehow into some sort of religious background of yours? 360 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: What do you think you could tie it to that 361 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: might have some form of artistic substance. 362 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 8: Maybe I could like sell it as compost like like 363 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 8: like you were saying, like climate change, like kind of 364 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 8: for the environment, because like everybody sees like everybody sees brown, 365 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 8: and like you know, like I want to be like, well, 366 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 8: there's more. There's more just composts than than usage. 367 00:22:54,520 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: There's art, see I already about and that's good sign. 368 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 8: That's perfect, that's good. Then I could shock the world. 369 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: Beautiful. I'm excited for you. Let me know when your 370 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: gallery opens. You know what's funny is I know that 371 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: we're fucking around right now, But I really do think 372 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: if you, I really do think that if you sold 373 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: this correctly, you actually could exhibit photos of your. 374 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 4: No. 375 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: I never said that. I never said it's a million 376 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: dollar idea. I never said it's a million dollar idea, 377 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: but I do it. I want you to know. I 378 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: say this genuinely that if you you really wanted to 379 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: and you really like put your mind to it, and 380 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: you got like some nice you bought, like a nice camera, 381 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: and you took really good photos of your different colored shits, 382 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: and you like had them printed by like a quality printmaker, 383 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: and you like were able to mount them and ship 384 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: on like a canvas, I really genuinely do believe you 385 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: could you could presented his art. 386 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 8: You are the first person to ever say that you 387 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 8: believe in my idea. And for that I am thankful. 388 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 4: Thank you. 389 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 8: Therapy. 390 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: Get go, of course, go get them Connor shock the 391 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: art world. 392 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 8: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Have a 393 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 8: great night. 394 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Tell I've been to all these like 395 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: contemporary art museums and stuff, and are is all about presentation. 396 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: If you put I This is something I think about 397 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: all the time. If you took a video of your 398 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: dog on your iPhone and you uploaded it to YouTube 399 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: and the title the video was dog running around in 400 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 1: field and it had zero views, it would just be 401 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: some bullshit video on YouTube that nobody cares about. But 402 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: if you rented a gallery and you with like eight 403 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: millimeter film filmed your dog running around in a field, 404 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: and you projected it onto a wall and you got 405 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: like a nice engraved title that said dog running around 406 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: field Comma twenty twenty two, and you put it in 407 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: the MoMA or whatever, people would look at it and 408 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: they would go, oh, yes, that's supposed to be here. 409 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: That is art. So it's all about presentation. If you 410 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: take pictures of your shit and you post them on 411 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: Instagram just with your little foam filter, people are gonna 412 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: be like, what the fuck is this? But if you 413 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: put it in a gallery and you present it to 414 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 1: people as art, now that's their first impression of it, 415 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: they won't question you. They really want. I hope Connor 416 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: does it. If he doesn't, I might I might have 417 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: to steal his idea, because I too love gatorade. I 418 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: went to the Philadelphia Museum of Art ago because I 419 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: still live in Philadelphia and there's a there's a piece there. 420 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: See how I called it a piece. See how I'm 421 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: about to get into this. I'm getting ahead of myself. 422 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: But it's crazy that I call this a piece. But 423 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: the fact that I just called it a piece unconsciously 424 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: just now proves the entire point of the rant that 425 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: I just went on. There's a piece in the Philadelphia 426 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: Museum of Art of a it's a like little like 427 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: old box TV and uh, there's a recording. There's like 428 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: a looping video on the TV of a clown and 429 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: the clown is just staring into the camera and it's 430 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: going no noarrow, no, no, no, no no. And that's it. 431 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: And it's in the Philadelphia Museum of Art. And I 432 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: called it a piece. Just now. If you dressed up 433 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: as a clown and you took a front facing camera 434 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: iPhone video of yourself yelling no, no, no, and you 435 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: posted it on your on Facebook, people will be like, 436 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: this guy is insane. But if you do the same 437 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: thing on a fucking old video camera and you put 438 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: it on a stupid TV and you put it in 439 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: an art museum, people will call it a piece. That's 440 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: why Connor's ship thing is not that crazy. Bruce Nauman, Yes, 441 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: there we go. That's that's what it is. Shout out 442 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: to Bruce Nauman. All right, all right, that was my 443 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: little gecko rant on art. I hope Connor does this thing. Hello, Hello, Hey, 444 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: is this Joe from Oregon? 445 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: Yes? Oh my god, this is absolutely insane. 446 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: Looks as it is for you. It is it is. 447 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: It is even more insane for me that I find 448 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: it insane that you find it insane to be on. 449 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: Well, the insanity is just going around then yeah. 450 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: Really, insanity really is going around, do you all right? 451 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: So here's the thing is, I've been doing this thing 452 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: normally on Like when I'm like shucking and jiving on 453 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: this thing, I'll like like snap, like bringing up immediately like, oh, 454 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: Joe from Oregon, your balls are twisted and your girlfriend 455 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 1: hates you like whatever it is. Or I can let you, 456 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: in your own words, say the thing or how do 457 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: you want to do this? Do you want to say? 458 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: What's going on? Do you want me to tell? Say what? 459 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: The call screener said. 460 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: I can say a thing, and then from that thing 461 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 4: we can say things to each other maybe. 462 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: I like that idea a lot. I like that idea 463 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot. All right, you say your thing, all right. 464 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 4: So this thing I wanted to talk about is something 465 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 4: is a thing that happened probably when I was twelve. 466 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: I was twelve years old, I think sure, And I 467 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 4: was a very anxious twelve year old. I had a 468 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: lot of anxiety. Basically, anytime some small thing would happen 469 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 4: to me, like I got a little cut on my finger, 470 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 4: I would be like, oh my god, I have necrotizing 471 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 4: fasci ideas. I'm gonna my skin's gonna fall off. 472 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 6: You know, I was. 473 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: I was a freak. I was super anxious about everything. Well, anyways, 474 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 4: I was. 475 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 9: Playing paintball with friends and kind of just having a 476 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 9: very normal day, and all of a sudden, we finished 477 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 9: our game of paintball, we were leaving, and I was 478 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 9: sitting in the car, and all of a. 479 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 4: Sudden, everything just kind of went weird. And it was 480 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: kind of like, I don't know, if you've just been 481 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 4: really really high before, it just feels like I have. 482 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean basically the feeling of being 483 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: extremely high, but it was like pretty much like a dream. 484 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 4: I was like, what the fuck's going on. 485 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: It says here that you had an anxiet episode that 486 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: you found out was called de personalization. That's what you're describing, right, yes? 487 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: Or do you realization there's there are different you know, 488 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: terms for personalization. 489 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 8: Uh. 490 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: It says you described the sensation known as visual snow. 491 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: What is visual Oh? 492 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, So visual snow is this is also 493 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 4: something that kind of came along with this strange episode 494 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 4: where it's like a staticy like a static to your vision, 495 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: like your vision. It's kind of like when you look 496 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: at a TV and like you see that static, but 497 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 4: it's kind of just like in general, when you're just 498 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 4: looking around, it's just this strange, like very very subtle 499 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: static that's kind of just aroounds when you're looking. 500 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're twelve years old, you're playing paintball, you're 501 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: in the car without your other friends, and this shit 502 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: starts happening to you, and it it sounds like it's 503 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: like very intense, like like a psychedelic trip of some kind. 504 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: How do you react in the moments? 505 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 9: You do? 506 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: What do you do? 507 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: Do you freak out? 508 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: Well, the best way I could describe the sensation of 509 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: this was kind of like it just felt like somebody 510 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 4: who can join me or something like that was just 511 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: on acid. I was like, well, what the fuck, Like 512 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 4: I don't know what's happening, but this is not right. 513 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 4: And it was just like I don't know, like I 514 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 4: had started being really fast, and I didn't say anything 515 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 4: because obviously it just it felt like if I said something, 516 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 4: I would sound I'm like an insane person. So I 517 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 4: kind of just out there and just kind of tried 518 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 4: to act as normal as possible until I got home 519 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: and I was living with my dad at the time. 520 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 4: I remember what year this was, but I was around 521 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 4: twelve thirteen, I think, and I just kind of like 522 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 4: went home, went to my room for a little bit, 523 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 4: and then eventually I just kind of was like, oh, hey, 524 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 4: hey dad, this this there is something wrong, Like there's 525 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 4: something really wrong. I don't know if my brain's broken 526 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: or what's going on, but yeah, like I feel I 527 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: feel like I'm fucking like I'm crazy, Like I don't know. 528 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: Like he it kind of was just like this back 529 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 4: and forth for a while of just like he was like, what, well, 530 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: what do you mean? Like what what what the fuck 531 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: is that supposed to mean? Like you don't feel like 532 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 4: something's right, Like it doesn't don't feel like you're in reality, 533 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 4: like are you want? It's kind of funny. 534 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: And and while you're having this back and forth with 535 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: your dad, are you are you still experiencing the sensation? 536 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was just like this kind of permanent 537 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 4: sense of like I kind of described it as a 538 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 4: call screen, like it was a video game, but really 539 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 4: it was more like a dream. Like it was just 540 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 4: like it just seemed like. 541 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: You, for whatever reason, felt like you were in a 542 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 1: dream or you were you were experiencing your life, not 543 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: from your own perspectives. 544 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 4: Yes, like almost exactly like that just that strange feeling 545 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: you get in a dream where like people don't like 546 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 4: I kind of like, yeah, like the only reason I 547 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 4: said video game was just stranger because like we're talking 548 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 4: to somebody, felt like you were like talking to like 549 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: an NPC. Like it was just like, really like what 550 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 4: what is this? 551 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: Well, okay, okay, so this happened to you when you 552 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: were twelve years old. You're twenty five now, so this 553 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: was half your life ago. In any form, Yeah, yeah, 554 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: in any form has this sensation appeared again to you? 555 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: So it went on for about like two or three 556 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: months kind of just like well, a pretty uh it. 557 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: It lasted two or three months like continuously. 558 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, no, and oh my god. It was horrible. 559 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 4: And luckily for me, it was kind of on like 560 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 4: a summer vacation from school, you know what I'm saying. 561 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 4: So it was just like it's just strangely good timing 562 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 4: for something weird and horrible happened like that. But I 563 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 4: never ended up I ended up going like to a 564 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 4: doctor and they were like, Okay, well we don't really 565 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: know what to say. You know, it's not like there's 566 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 4: anything physically wrong with you, so you know, they're like, 567 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 4: well you could guess, I guess you could get like 568 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 4: a cat skin and whatever. We didn't end up going 569 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 4: down that route, so there was Yeah. So so they 570 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: referred me to like a psychiatrist, and uh, well, I 571 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: don't know, like we were going to go down that 572 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 4: route and start figuring, you know, trying to figure out 573 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 4: what's wrong with me. Okay, but between me and my 574 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 4: dad trying to decide what to do, we did didn't 575 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 4: really end up doing that. It was more or less 576 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: just I guess me trying to self manage this weird 577 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 4: episode that. I mean, it was just like every day 578 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 4: I thought, Okay, I'll wake up and it'll be gone. 579 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: But you know, you know what's weird looking back on 580 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: it kind of said the mede, this is fucked up. 581 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: But like you're twenty five years old, and like now 582 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: I remember being thirteen, and in a weird way, when 583 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: I look back on my memories of like being thirteen 584 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: in the summer, they feel like oddly psychedelic. It was 585 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 1: any part of this looking back on it like kind 586 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: of fun. 587 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 4: Oh man, I wouldn't really say fun. I mean I was, 588 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 4: like I said, I was an absolute rack back then 589 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: when it came to anxiety leading up to this point. 590 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 4: And so this whole episode kind of just I mean, 591 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 4: I didn't talk, I didn't hang out with friends. I 592 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: didn't really talk to many people. I kind of just 593 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 4: and I don't know if this made this worse, but 594 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 4: I just kind of secluded myself to my house, to 595 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 4: my room. I was constantly looking online trying to look 596 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 4: for answers because yeah, I mean, I didn't really seem 597 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 4: like there was many. 598 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so so it was not fun. 599 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 4: It was pretty much the opposite. It's fun. Yeah, it was. 600 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I know you don't have to stand 601 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: me on that. I was just saying I did because 602 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look well, I mean I'm the onlyers I 603 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: asked is because you know, people take drugs to intentionally 604 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: achieve the effects that you are describing, uh, you know, 605 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: for recreational purposes. So I didn't know if if it 606 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: was fun. But but okay, you're telling me absolutely. 607 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 608 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Okay. So so to sort of wrap this up, your 609 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: twe and what I what I wanted to know, and 610 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: I feel like we got sidetracked off of this into 611 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: something because you were telling me the last of the 612 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: three months, which goddamn that's crazy. So okay, to wrap 613 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 1: that part up real quick. It just faded away after 614 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: three months. How did that happen? 615 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. So it's either okay, it's either 616 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 4: and this is just my own kind of theory. It's 617 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 4: either it went away or I sort of got used 618 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 4: to that feeling of just strange. I don't know, but 619 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 4: at a certain point it kind of started feeling like, Okay, 620 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 4: I can manage you know, this part of my life. 621 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 4: I could go outside. I can you know, I can 622 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 4: go because I mean I ended up, going back to 623 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 4: school and all that, and so it was kind of 624 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: just like I guess, gradually being forced back into the world. 625 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 4: I started feeling a little more at ease, a little more. 626 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's seven a good way to 627 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 4: describe it, but all. 628 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: Right, So this kind of thing of you saying you 629 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: don't even know, you don't even know if it went 630 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: away maybe just adjusted to it almost brings me into 631 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: what I wanted, what I really wanted to get at 632 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: before we go. Is you all right? Like I said, 633 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: this happened half your life ago, you were twelve, you're 634 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: twenty five. Now, how do you feel now? Like has 635 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: this has this depersonalization thing happened to you at any 636 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: other stage of your life? Has it resurfaced? Do you 637 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: have any connection to it mentally? You know right now? 638 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: Like what do you where? Does this issue stand with you? Contemporarily? 639 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 4: Temporarily I would say I haven't had any more like 640 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 4: very intense episodes like that. I do still struggle with 641 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 4: like anxiety, just as in general. I have gone to 642 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 4: a different therapists and have been kind of diagnosed with 643 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 4: like some what's call it, it's like a general anxiety 644 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 4: type of thing. But I don't take medications, and it's 645 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 4: it's kind of just been a self managing thing, which 646 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: I don't obviously, I don't think that's the best method. 647 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 4: I think I probably could use more medical or you know, therapy, 648 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 4: but it I don't know it is. I have not 649 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 4: had anything as substantial as that recur. But the visual 650 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 4: snow actually is something that I still that is still happening, 651 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 4: and I have still not had a explanation of what 652 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 4: that is. 653 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: And you're telling me just you're telling me that when 654 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: the visual snow happens, there's not a single party that's like, 655 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: all right, it is kind of cool. 656 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 4: Okay, So one way I could describe if you're in 657 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 4: complete darkness in a room, it is fucking just like 658 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 4: pure TV static, Like it looks fucking weird. I mean, 659 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 4: it's it's really strange. I went to an eye doctor. 660 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 4: They said, Okay, your eyes are fine. There's absolutely nothing 661 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 4: wrong with your eyes. The only thing that we have 662 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 4: not done, like I said, has been like a brain 663 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 4: scan to see, like I don't know if there's something 664 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 4: physically wrong with my brain, which maybe it would be 665 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 4: a good step to do. But other than that, yeah, 666 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 4: it's it's pretty fucking weird. I wouldn't say it's fun 667 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 4: or cool, but it's it's interesting. 668 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: Hmm, well, you know it's it's uh, it's it's weirdly 669 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: interesting to hear you say that. You you know, when 670 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: you were twelve, you don't know if you if it 671 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: went away or if you just adjusted to it, like 672 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 1: like you don't, like there's no way that you still 673 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: feel like that now, but but you just kind of, 674 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, learned to live in your own perception of reality. 675 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 4: It may be just my I am living my own 676 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 4: version of reality. I mean, fuck, I mean, it's it's 677 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 4: weird to say it that way, but maybe I mean, 678 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 4: I'm talking to the echo on the computer. 679 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 1: It's true, you are talking to a gecko on the computer, 680 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: which is a classically psychedelic experience. So you could still 681 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: be depersonalized right now. But is there anything you want 682 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go? 683 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 4: I guess just you know, take care of your mental 684 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 4: health and uh, just I don't know, fucking I don't yeah, 685 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 4: that's you know, I didn't prepare anything. I'm sorry, but yeah, 686 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 4: just just just mental health supportant. 687 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: Guys, Thank you for calling Joe. Appreciate you sharing your story. 688 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 4: Hey, thank you, love you get. 689 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: I almost like I think I got like a weird 690 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: contact high from that call, because I don't remember the 691 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: last I Oh, I'm in a weird headspace right now. 692 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember the last I remember being present for 693 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: the last five minutes of that call, but I don't 694 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: remember the first five minutes. I only remember the second 695 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: half of that call. I don't know if it's I 696 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: got some weird contact high from the subject matter. I 697 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm bullshitting myself right now, but I 698 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: don't remember the beginning of that call. I only remember this. 699 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: I only remember the last five minutes. The beginning of 700 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: that call for me is in some nether place. I mean, 701 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: I haven't recorded so I can go back and look 702 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: at it and I'll go, oh, right, But if I 703 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: just have to go off of my my currently existing 704 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: memory with no sort of photographic elements, the first half 705 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: of that is, uh is in another region. This was weird. 706 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: This was a weird thing. It's put me in a 707 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: weird headspace. Thank you. Who is his name? Joe? It 708 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: was it Joe? I think it was Joe. Hold only check. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. Yeah, 709 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:33,760 Speaker 1: it was Joe. Thank you for sharing your story. Joe. Hello, Nicky, Hi, Yeah, 710 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: how are you doing that? 711 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 7: Yeah? No, I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty good right now 712 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 7: talking to the gecko on the computer. 713 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: It is an honor to be a gecko talking on 714 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: the computer to you, Nikki. It says here that you 715 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: are twenty years old from California and that you think 716 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: this is a very interesting thing that we're about to 717 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: get into here. I have a lot of questions about this, 718 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. It says here that you think you 719 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: gave your best friend and your enemy chlamydia in a threesome. 720 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: You're worried about telling them that you might have been 721 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: the one to give them chlamydia. Okay, so this is 722 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: a two parter here. I assume you're calling to talk 723 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: about the fact that you're worried about telling them, and 724 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: we'll get to that. But first I want to know 725 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: how exactly you got involved with a threesome, in a 726 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 1: threesome with not just your best friend but also your enemy. 727 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: Who is this enemy that you had tell me about? 728 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: This enemy? Oh? 729 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, this so the enemy is. 730 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 6: A boy that her and I both hooked up with separately, 731 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 6: but she hooked up with him first, and like he's 732 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 6: kind of in our friend. 733 00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 7: Group here, but like he comes over sometimes, and like 734 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 7: they started hooking up. Maybe they hooked up like twice, 735 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 7: and I I had a boyfriend at that time. I 736 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 7: broke up with him, and then I started hooking up 737 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 7: with him. But I asked her permission if she said 738 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 7: it was chill, So I went for it and ended 739 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 7: up not being chilled and putting a damper on our friendship. 740 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 7: We got over it because we were best friends, but 741 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 7: like she was met at me for a while, and 742 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 7: you know, I didn't actually really like him. I just 743 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 7: kind of hooked up with him. 744 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 8: So so wait. 745 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 1: A minute, hold on, ye, how is he your enemy? 746 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: What has he done to to? I mean, because because 747 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: this is a nikki enemy, I mean that's a strong 748 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 1: it's a strong label. Is that someone who's really really 749 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: wrong to you, not not just once but continually like 750 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: a like a I mean an enemy that's not just 751 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 1: somebody who pissed you off once. That's a recurring antagonist 752 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: in your life. What does he done to gain this 753 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: title of enemy? 754 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 10: Well, you know, maybe he's not an enemy to the extent, 755 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 10: but he is the worst. Like he like just is 756 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 10: just so egotistical and like really bugs on my friends. 757 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 10: And like after he caused this damper on me and 758 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 10: my best friend's friendship, the whole friend group has kind 759 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 10: of turned against him because they realized how like much 760 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 10: he like boasted about like cooking up with both of us, 761 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 10: and like he's just the egotistical asshole. 762 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: So you gave him chlamydia? 763 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 4: Yes, I did. 764 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 7: I well, I don't know. 765 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: Like all right, So so you're concerned about telling you, okays, 766 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 1: he had a reason with this guy and your friend 767 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 1: and you you think that you might have given them lamydia, 768 00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: and you're afraid to. 769 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 7: Tell, you know, I he's he put okay, he put 770 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 7: us both in a group chat after we had the 771 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 7: threesome and texted us and said, you know, he said, 772 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,479 Speaker 7: I got tested and I have it, and we both 773 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 7: were kind of like fucked, we both got tested. We 774 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 7: both have it, and I I was kind of thinking back. 775 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 7: I was like, well, you know, I could have given 776 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 7: it to them because I had hooked up with somebody 777 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 7: in between the time I hooked up with him and 778 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 7: the threesome. And I never got tested. 779 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: Look, here's the thing, uh, Nikki, chlamydia. Yeah, chmittee is 780 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,720 Speaker 1: not that bad. I've said it before on this podcast. 781 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: I've had committee twice. I'm fine. You know, you take 782 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: a pill, no, and you're done. You know, it's not 783 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: like you gave them like aids. 784 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 7: You know. 785 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 786 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,479 Speaker 7: No, this is humbling to hear because like, I'm freaking out. 787 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 7: I did take the pills, and I'm I'm I'm fine 788 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 7: now I didn't have any any symptom. But just the 789 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 7: thought of like giving my best friend and my enemy chlamydia, 790 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 7: it's like a win and a lose. 791 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: But like. 792 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 6: Chlamydia, it's just. 793 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: Nick Nikki, Nikki Nikki just just just well, first of all, 794 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm there's a couple of things here. First of all, 795 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: it sounds like you, I mean, look, sure you had 796 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,919 Speaker 1: sex with this other person and then you had sex 797 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: with them, so like, but I mean, look, we don't 798 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: know who. We don't know who your friend was having 799 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: sex with. We don't know who this guy was having 800 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: sex with, so could have been anyone at this point. 801 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: Because yeah, because here's the thing, right, it could have 802 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 1: been anyone because we don't know who your we don't 803 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: who your friends been having sex with. We don't know 804 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 1: this guy's been having sex with U was I gonna 805 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: say it? Does it even matter at this point who 806 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,919 Speaker 1: gave who what? I mean, you're all gonna take the pill. 807 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: You're all gonna be fine. Maybe in the future, I 808 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you learn a lesson of some kind 809 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: of of you know, uh, STDs are bad or whatever 810 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: it is. But at the end of the day, the 811 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: who did what is like, what is anyone even gonna 812 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: do with that information? That's you know, remotely productive. But 813 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 1: if it makes you feel better, I mean, you don't 814 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: know for sure it was you, unless if you got 815 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: tested beforehand and then you had exce with them, which 816 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: that would have been bad. But that's not really what happened. Uh, 817 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't really think that, you know. I mean, 818 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: like I said, it's anyone's guess as to who was 819 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: patient zero here. 820 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, that's true. Like I guess, it doesn't matter 821 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 7: in the end. But you know, it suck like everybody 822 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 7: because he told all his friends and all my friends know. 823 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 7: And now it's just because STDs that are like embarrassing, 824 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,280 Speaker 7: like it is stigmatized. 825 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 6: But It's like, damn, we all like had a threesome 826 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 6: as it should be embarrassing. 827 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: It means you got laid, and that's who doesn't like 828 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: to brag about getting laid. It's like, how is it? 829 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: How can it be both a stigma but also a 830 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: thing that everyone's bragging about all the time. 831 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, because I mean that kind of touches in 832 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 7: the lines of like gender norms, because like, if a 833 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 7: girl's bragging about sex, she's sort of as a float. 834 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 7: But it's the boy's bragging about a threesome, he's like 835 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 7: a thing. And yeah, and and then you add somdia 836 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 7: to the mex and it's just what the fuck I 837 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 7: don't know anymore? 838 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: Well, uh, listen, you know you don't have to subscribe 839 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: to gender norms. You can subscribe to whatever the fuck 840 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: you want. Nikki, you know, uh, what do you what 841 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: do you what do you feel in your heart is 842 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: the right thing to do? Well? 843 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 7: I know my best friend wouldn't care if I gave 844 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 7: for chumydia. The guy, you know, he's a slut himself, 845 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 7: so he could have definitely given it to us. Like, 846 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 7: you know, maybe I'm kid slut. But it's just like 847 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 7: it doesn't matter, I guess in the. 848 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,919 Speaker 3: End, totally doesn't matter. 849 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: In the end. That's the I would I would put 850 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: a period there. Honestly, I don't think it matters. I mean, look, 851 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: here's what matters. Here's what does. Here's what matters is. Look, 852 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: what's your name, Nikki. I've said it five thousand dollars, Nikki. 853 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: All that matters, All that matters is that you be safe, 854 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: all right, You be confident in whatever choices you're making 855 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: to do in your life. And that's that's sit at 856 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day. 857 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 7: That made me feel better. 858 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 859 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: Good is there Is there anything that you want to 860 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go, Nicki. 861 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 7: You should trick on streams. It's the best and most 862 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 7: awesome thing you could do change my life. 863 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: I'll think about it. I feel like I'm gonna permanently, 864 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: like develop a twitch or something, and then I can't 865 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: be a gecko on the computer anymore. I don't know. 866 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. Good luck to you in your 867 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 1: future endeavor's NICKI. 868 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you so much, Greg, Nicki forever, Yeah, never. 869 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: Be goes on the line making your phone calls every night. 870 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: Never becon, goes to time. 871 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 2: Teaching you cloud in the mid of your life is 872 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 2: not an expert