1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is my trusted colleague West 3 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios at 4 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: lambeau Field and West as usual on our midweek show, 5 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: it's time to look ahead to the Packers next opponent, 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, coming into lambeau Field for a Sunday 7 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: noon Central Time kickoff, and a team that everybody was 8 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: writing off after the first two games of the season. 9 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: They go into Minneapolis and beat the Minnesota Vikings, a 10 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: game in which I believe Buffalo is a seventeen point underdog, 11 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: and they didn't just beat them, they whipped them to six. 12 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: So the Buffalo Bills will put everyone on notice now 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: that they're not the They're not the team that you 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: put an asterisk on the on the schedule and say, Okay, 15 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: you know you chuck that one up as a win. 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: Far from it. Here this rookie quarterback Josh Allen. You 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: know how it goes with rookie quarterbacks. You can get 18 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: some tremendous games, you can get some shaky games, and 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: everything in between. This is an athletic kid, first round 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: draft pick out of the University of Wyoming. He's also 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: leading the Bills in rushing. If I'm not mistake correct, 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: I mean it's uh yeah, twenty two attempts for ninety 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: seven yards so far, which I think what everybody talked 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: about him in his arm at Wyoming. I don't know 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: how much they talked about his scrambling ability, but or 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: is hurdling ability jumped over Anthony Barr like like he 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: was in the Olympics. They're on last Sunday. That's the game, man, 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: especially for the rookie quarterbacks in this league. When you're 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: thrown into the fire. Sometimes it's treading water. It's just 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: trying to find ways to move the chains and make plays. 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Micah Hyde, as he always does so eloquently, had such 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: a great comment this week about it in that people 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: are so jumped, they are so quick to jump to 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: if a team play is really well, you're going to 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. If you play really poorly, you're gonna 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: have the first overall pick. And if there's so much 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: truth in that. He said that at times too. I 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: remember in some you know, former fashion when he was 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: in Green Bay and that this league, man, the way 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: it is the way things happen. Very rarely, and it 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: does happen, but very rarely can you just sit there 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: and point to a game be like, this is how 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: it's gonna play out, this is what the score is 44 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: gonna be, and and you know there's gonna be no 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: deviation from that. The Bills showed last week exactly the 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: nature of the NFL. You can get wallops by Baltimore, 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: you can get destroyed by the Chargers in terms of 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: what you know, Philip Rivers is able to do offensively, 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: some of the mistakes that that the Bills made, and 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: then you can go into a team that was in 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game last year and going to their 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: house one of the most uh, you know, scariest places 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: to play, loudest place to play in the NFL, and 54 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: you can just completely knock them out. That's the nature 55 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: of the Beast. And the one thing I ked about 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: what Josh Allen did and what the Bills did. They 57 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: got some takeaways early, they got some points early, and 58 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: then they kind of sat on it and they did 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: a really good job of controlling the time of possession. 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: And now it's a much different story now going into 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: this game. Against the Packers than it was seven days ago. Yeah, Well, 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: the season started with the Bills starting Nathan Peterman at quarterback. 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: That didn't last too long. He had a game last year. 64 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: Was he throw through five interceptions in one half of football? 65 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: I think so? And I know their plan was to 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: have a j McCarron kind of be a placeholder for 67 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen until he came along. So pretty much everything 68 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: they were planning to do has gotten scrapped. It's now 69 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's team. And let's face it was he's trying 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: to make this work here with his number one running back, 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy is injured and not playing, so they've turned 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: it over to Chris Ivory as as the main running back. 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: And he doesn't have any spectacular, big name wide receivers 74 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: that he's throwing too. He's made some big plays with 75 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: his tight ends and uh and Ivory in the screen 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: game and whatnot. They they are kind of trying to 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: piece it together and and really what did it for 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: him in the game against Minnesota was the defense generating pressure, 79 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: generating turnovers. They got themselves a lead and then they 80 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: didn't make any mistakes after that to let the Vikings 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: back in the ballgame. So when I look at this, 82 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: it just seems, especially when you look at the fact 83 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: that the Packers offensive line is a little banged up, 84 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: he might have some different starters in there. You know, 85 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 1: it starts with keeping that Bill's past ros, Jerry Hughes 86 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: and those guys, keeping them away from Aaron Rodgers and 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: protecting that football. Yeah, Kyle Williams still doing it at 88 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: a high level all these years later. I think he's 89 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: what thirty five years old now, but still obviously a 90 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: force in the middle of that defense. Jerry Hughes, who 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: really reinvented himself when he went to Buffalo in the 92 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: early two thousand tens, and I think a lot of people, uh, 93 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: we're really writing him off and in terms of what 94 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: his career was going to be. And then he has 95 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: I think it was something like back to back ten 96 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: sax seasons. He's been really consistent for them ever since. 97 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: The strange thing about the bit Lls is that they 98 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: only do have one interception right now, but they got 99 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: a lot of force fumbles. Uh you know, they were 100 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 1: able to convert those, recover those, and that obviously changes 101 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: the field positions. So um, yeah, there isn't There isn't 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: a huge like player that you have to eliminate from 103 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: the ball game. I mean, certainly, you know, Calvin Benjamin 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: has has playmaking ability you look at you know, I 105 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: think it's Charles Clay. He's been in this league a 106 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: long time, certainly been a factor as a tight end. 107 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: There's just enough weapons there. I mean, that's ultimately the 108 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: reason I think they were able to get to the 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: playoffs last year's They had enough weapons, they played well 110 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: enough as a team that it was able to be 111 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: able to carve up one of those playoffs spots. And 112 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: now I think they showed against the Vikings that if 113 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: you take them lightly, and I'm not saying the Vikings did, 114 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: but in generally, if you take them lightly, they're gonna 115 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: find a way to make you pay. Yeah, And I 116 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: think the uh they have a solid secondary on that 117 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: back end to compliment what seems to be a pretty 118 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: good pass rush. And I'm sorry. The number one cornerback 119 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: for Buffalo, his name is escaping me right now. Tarin 120 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Johnson um No the Renzo Alexander no Oh White Yes 121 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: White from L s U. Yes, the L s U 122 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: cornerback that was young guy. Um, so you've got him, 123 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: You've got Micah Hi to familiar face will be coming 124 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: back to lambeau Field UM this week. So um. It's 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: it's not a dynamic secondary, as you said, they only 126 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: have one interception, but it seems to be the kind 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: of group and with Trude Avious White being the guy 128 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: that they usually lock up on the opponent's number one target, 129 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: it's a good compliment to what they have up front 130 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: with a pass rush. And then they added Tremaine Edmonds, Uh, 131 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: the linebacker from Virginia Tech. That's so crazy he was 132 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: He was added early in the draft to that defensive 133 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: front as well. So it's interesting the way it's coming 134 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: together in Buffalo, and certainly there went over the Vikings 135 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: is a big step forward that not a lot of 136 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: people expected, but but one that that you know, this 137 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: team was looking forward to make that leap. Yeah. And 138 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, represent this as like 139 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: the Land of Misfit Toys or anything like that, but 140 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: you do. Look. I mean Jordan Poyer came coming over 141 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: from Cleveland too. I think him and Hyde both had 142 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: five interceptions last year, at least north of that being 143 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: able to make plays on the back end. I mean 144 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: that was really one of the catalysts for them being 145 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: able to make that run last year is they just 146 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: were able to execute. And Sean McDermott is such a 147 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: bright defensive mind. He learned from one of the very 148 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: best in the game, and I think you've seen him. 149 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: I think this was the right time for him to 150 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: be a head coach. He'd been a defensive coach, a 151 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for a number of years. Finally steps up 152 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: into that role and you're seeing him really I think 153 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: make those pieces fit as far as the Buffalo Bills 154 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: are concerned. But to the original point with Tradavious White 155 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: and what he's been able to do at a short time, 156 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean still only twenty three years old. Four interceptions 157 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: last year, sixty nine tackles, sixteen starts, really difficult situation 158 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: for a young guy to be thrown out there leave 159 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: He was a second round pick off the top of 160 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: my head, and he stepped up to the challenge. And 161 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: I think now with the Packers going into this game, 162 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: I would imagine he's probably gonna be seeing a lot 163 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: of Davante Adams. I think that's gonna be a big 164 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: matchup to watch in that one. But they they're they're 165 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: very multiple. There's a lot of things that they can 166 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: do defensively, but certainly their biggest thing is trying to 167 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: pressure the quarterback and have those guys on the back 168 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: end make plays on the ball. It's gonna be a 169 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: big challenge. It's gonna be a big challenge for Aaron 170 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers in that entire offense of the Packers to be 171 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: able to consistently generate those opportunities against the group that 172 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: really stri prides itself based on last year and what 173 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: we've seen through the first three games in being able 174 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: to really limit the downfield options. Yeah, well last year 175 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: they end up getting into the playoffs for the first 176 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 1: time and what was years something like that, and it 177 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: happened on the final Yeah, happened on the final weekend 178 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: of the the regular season. So a franchise that's looking 179 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: to recapture a little of that momentum that they built 180 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: in and they were left for dead man. I mean 181 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't think, know, they went through 182 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: some ups and downs last year too. It wasn't like 183 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: they just were, you know, this this uh unstoppable force 184 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: most of the year. They sort of they peaked at 185 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: the right time of the season. They made enough big 186 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: plays and lo and behold they made that run ended 187 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: the streak. And I think this year they came in 188 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: with a lot of expectations despite the fact that they 189 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: ended up trading to Rod Taylor and to kind of 190 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: have to rally through what they did the first two 191 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: weeks to be where they are at today. Um. Yeah, 192 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: you gotta give credit to Sean mcdernomtt for having his 193 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: guys ready. I'm assuming they will be on Sunday. Yeah. 194 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny how the season started because last 195 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: year Andy Dalton for the Bengals gets that miracle touchdown 196 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: against the Baltimore Ravens to beat Baltimore, which then propels 197 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Buffalo into the playoffs, and Baltimore misses the playoffs, and 198 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: then the Ravens go on to play Buffalo and take 199 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: out some of their frustrations in September. Here, you know, 200 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: nine months, nine months later. But the way that's the 201 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: way this league can work sometimes it's really incredible just 202 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: how these things go. And and that's just it's the 203 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: nature of the Beast. The The one other thing I 204 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: want to mention too about this matchup bit In addition, 205 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: obviously Micha Hyde see and the Packers again. Jordan Mills 206 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: the starting right tackle for the Bills. He is the 207 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: cousin of Tremont Williams, so they will see each other 208 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: again as well. I think those two seem like they've 209 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: played each other so many times. Say yeah, because it 210 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: wasn't Mills with the Bears. I remember writing about that 211 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: when when Tremont Williams and and Mills part of the 212 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: Packers Bears rival were there. And Ryan Groy I think 213 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: he's a former Badger as well. Former Badger yes, and 214 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: um and undrafted, I believe. But now I was starting 215 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: at center for for Buffalo. So um little sponsor business 216 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: here west at home or here in the stands. We 217 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: all know that Green Bay fans give it their all 218 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: and that takes a lot of energy. So grab a 219 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: warm bowl of Campbell's Chunky Soup. It's meaty goodness fuels 220 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: the greatness of Packers fans everywhere. Try the delicious classic 221 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: chicken noodle soup. Just visit your local supermarket and ask 222 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: for Campbell's Chunky Soup, Official sup partner of the Green 223 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Okay, a couple other things to touch on 224 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: here on our Wednesday show. Oh uh, some roster moves 225 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: in the works here for the Green Bay Packers, Devon 226 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: House headed to injured reserve, apparently with a shoulder injury 227 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: that that um is going to require him to be 228 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: sidelined for quite a while, and as a response, the 229 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: Packers signing a veteran cornerback to take his place in 230 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Bashad Breland, a free agent who has been available for 231 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: quite a while. Kind of a health mix up, I 232 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: guess would be the best way to say it with 233 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: regards to him in the main part of free agency 234 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: in the off season, been waiting for an opportunity, waiting 235 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: for a job, and here he is in Green Bay 236 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: four year or this is his fifth year, but four 237 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: years with Washington. Yeah, it's funny too, Mike. I guess 238 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: I sort of predicted this last week, confusing him with 239 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: Brichard Perriman, that's right. Yeah, so I ended up bringing 240 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: him up last week. Whatever the case may be. What 241 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: an interesting journey it's been for Breland. Obviously, it looked 242 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: like earlier this offseason was going to be signing was 243 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: one of the most I think a lot of people 244 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: consider one of the top cornerbacks on the mark it 245 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: there was an injury issue there with him, takes all 246 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: these visits, finally comes to Green Bay in week three, 247 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: twenty six years old. If you know anything about his 248 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: story started, I think it was fifty seven of the 249 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: sixty one games he played for Washington and if I 250 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: got this part of it right too, we did a 251 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: five Things to Know story. It was I think the 252 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: third most starts for a rookie in Washington other than 253 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: Darryl Green and championship, so that's a really elite company. 254 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: Had sixty pass deflections in his four years in Washington. Uh, 255 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: he gives you flexibility. He can plays. He's predominantly been boundary, 256 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: but he has some experience in the slot if you 257 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: want to use him there. I'll say this, Mike, and 258 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: every general manager has their own philosophy. But you have 259 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: someone like Breland out there who's in the prime of 260 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: his career. It's not like he's you know, passed anything here. 261 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: It's not like they're signing him at thirty one or 262 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: thirty two. Right. This is a guy who was just 263 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: looking for the second contract coming off of his rookie contract. 264 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: He was a fourth round pick Washington so I mean, 265 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: this is a guy that's in his prime, so to 266 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: be able to bring him in if you have an 267 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: injury to House, obviously, Kevin King is working through his 268 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: issue right now with a groin injury. I think he's 269 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: a guy that can step right in there with Joe Jr. 270 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: In in really contribute to this defense. Was looking for 271 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity. The Green Bay Packers gave it to you. Yeah, 272 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: he and and he may immediately see the field on Sunday. 273 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. But with as you said, with 274 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Kevin King dealing with a groin injury, Devon House going on, 275 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: I are you have Tremont Williams, the two rookies Alexander 276 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: and Jackson, and then Briland is right there as your 277 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: number four. And we all know how often the Packers 278 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: have four cornerbacks on the field. Now you have some flexibility. 279 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: Obviously Jermaine Whitehead as a safety has played some slot 280 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: cornerback and some there are some different options there. But 281 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: at the same time, this this isn't necessarily going to 282 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: be a long red shirt period for Brelan so to speak. 283 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: He may get on the field pretty quickly. Your boundary 284 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: reserve was Devon House. Yeah. I mean yeah, you do 285 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: have Josh Jones, you have white Head, you have Kentroll 286 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Bryce who can all play the slot. But as far 287 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: as boundary is concerned, he has proven entity out there 288 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: that could potentially step in if you need him to 289 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: be if you feel like Josh Jackson and jire Alexander 290 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: are best suited for the slot of those nickel and 291 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: dimes sub packages. A lot of things for obviously Mike 292 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Pett to play around with. But the thing I really 293 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: like about Brilon is he's just a really good football player. Uh. 294 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: You know, he was a fourth round pick. I think 295 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: you look at the the NFL draft scout and that process, 296 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't like he did anything that just jumped off 297 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: the page and you know, well he wasn't running four 298 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: three forties or anything like that. But he's really consistent. 299 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: He plays good technique, and I think when you saw 300 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: his maturation in Washington, the kind of reliability and durability 301 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: he provided to them, he was a big piece of 302 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: that defense. So now for the Packers to get him 303 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: in here, you obviously have three weeks before the bye week. 304 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: There's still time to work with them. To me personally, 305 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: and they've signed guys in the season before, but this 306 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: is I think a guy that I think can really 307 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: help and really contribute it. I thought it was an 308 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: A plus sign named by Brian Goods. Yeah, well, the 309 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: Packers are certainly in a in an injury situation where 310 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: where you're looking, you're looking for that help. And you know, 311 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: as as we talked about in the off season with 312 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: the building of the fifty three, a little bit different philosophy. 313 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Here we're seeing from Gouda Kunts. It's somebody going down. 314 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: It's not just Okay, who's the next guy on the 315 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: practice squad, who's the next guy within the building. It's 316 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: also looking outside the building. And it's early enough in 317 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: the season, as you said, to do that, because there's 318 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: time to get him acclimated and really get him up 319 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: to speed for the heart of the season. Absolutely, and 320 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: I think I don't want to keep using two thousand 321 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: ten is like this utopian litmus test for how you 322 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: have to approach a season. But I always go back 323 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: to that Mike and that they signed you know, they 324 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: or whatever was they claimed Howard Green or they they 325 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: claimed Ark Walden. They signed Howard Green, they brought veterans 326 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: in there that ended up having to play for them 327 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I think Breeland, as long as everybody's 328 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: on the same page with what's going to be expected 329 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: of him and what their vision is for these young cornerbacks, 330 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: I think it's just that it's the type of guy 331 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: that can come in here. He'll have you know, they 332 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: are deep enough at that position that he doesn't just 333 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: have to go in there and start Week one, but 334 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: he also is going to have time here that if 335 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: the Packers do need to rely on them to get 336 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: caught up on the defense. I was trying to figure 337 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: out if there are really any ties I didn't really 338 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: find any between Breland and this coaching staff with with 339 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: the other players, but but certainly with his experience in 340 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: this league and and what he's been through to get 341 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: to this point as much as he's played, you would 342 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: have to think that that he's not gonna need too 343 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: long to catch up on things. Yeah. Eight interceptions in 344 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: his career. Eight interceptions, including his last one last year 345 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: went for nineties six yards on a touchdown. I believe 346 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: that was off Philip Rivers in a really big game 347 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: that against the Chargers, So uh yeah, there's there's definite 348 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: playmaking ability there and and certainly gives you an experience 349 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: factor that I think they need. I thought Devon House 350 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: had a really important role in this defense and in 351 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: working with Kevin King the past year and a half 352 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: in being able to help bring along some of these 353 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: young guys. It's great to have talent. You love their athleticism, 354 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: you love their you know what you're getting out of 355 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: an athlete when they're at that twenty four years old stage. 356 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: But I really do believe you need to have your 357 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: Traumont Williams and your Brilon's in there too, that that 358 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: have been through this league, have seen the ups and downs, 359 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: know how guys are going to attack you, and be 360 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: able to pass on some of that knowledge. I think 361 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: it's a really good add into that room. Yeah, well, 362 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: we'll see how the week evolves with his first practices 363 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: with the Packers, but for now, we're going to call 364 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be 365 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team 366 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: on Packers dot com on Twitter. He's at west Hot, 367 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. 368 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in. Everybody see you next time.