WEBVTT - Ep. 46 — The Right Way to Use Credit

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<v Speaker 1>And were I feel like we have not been back

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<v Speaker 1>in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we took a little bit of a hiatus last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we did.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you were listening, you got to hear our

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<v Speaker 2>delightful Patrice Washington interview yet again, which is like one

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<v Speaker 2>of our most popular episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sos dope dot com. Or we forgot we're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, professional, this is Brown Ambition again.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, if you're clicking on the podcast from

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<v Speaker 2>the iTunes and you see the title in our faces,

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<v Speaker 2>you already have all the information you need. Some jump

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<v Speaker 2>right in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody might be listening by Yeah, by accident belong to

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<v Speaker 1>Well you stumbled on to Brown Ambition, darn it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tiffany And that's Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me, Mandy Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that your meddle name for really.

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<v Speaker 2>To the wood, to the ruf, to the Yeah, Mandy Lee,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how you know I'm from Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that is so cute, mand Lye.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, if you want if I'm in trouble, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>mandal Lee. Oh that sounds that's when I really messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>That does sound like your mom needs business When.

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<v Speaker 2>I messed with a thermostat. Yeah, so you were just

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida at Color Coom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was Dope dot Com. It was so I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never been before. They have it every year, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>This was its third year they have it at the

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<v Speaker 1>Ritz Carlton. I met a broad Ambition listener and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening, I totally misplaced your name in my memory.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just wanted to say thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You made my day by saying, wait, I know that voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Broad Ambition was Mandy, What.

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<v Speaker 2>A nice way to say you forgot something. I seem

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<v Speaker 2>to have misplaced that memory. I don't know where it

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<v Speaker 2>went right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna use that one. I'm really bad with names too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, but it was really dope because it was

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<v Speaker 1>how old?

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<v Speaker 2>How loud were you speaking? When when she recognized her

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<v Speaker 2>name from across the room.

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<v Speaker 1>I was standing next to her, like I like her

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<v Speaker 1>back was kind of to me and I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to someone, and she turned around as she looked at me,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, I know that voice. So yeah, it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly it was. It's just a brown AMBITIONI color calm

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<v Speaker 1>is women women in communications, women of color in communication.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't just Black women. There were Asian women,

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<v Speaker 1>there were Spanish women. It was a nice cross section.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it was majority black women, but definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a cross section. You could say they made a real

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<v Speaker 1>effort to be inclusive of women of color. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Lisa Ling, who I love, She did the

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<v Speaker 2>keynote last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she did. They always get really dope people that

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<v Speaker 1>This year they had Arianna Huffington, and she really she

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<v Speaker 1>resonated with so many of us because you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>many of us are still being super women in our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>and she really talked about how that's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>She's all about the sleep. That's why her entire book. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want, if you want to read her book Thrive,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good book. But I can sum it up

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<v Speaker 2>in one word, two words sleep more. Yeah, sleep more.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that they're like, you know that, really, in

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<v Speaker 1>order for us to be productive, you really are supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to have seven to eight hours to sleep a night.

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<v Speaker 2>How often do you think you get seven to eight

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<v Speaker 2>hours of sleep at night?

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<v Speaker 1>How often? Let me see, I usually wake up involuntarily

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<v Speaker 1>at like six or seven ish. Do I go to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep by midnight? I would say, yeah, honestly more unless

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like on the road or whatever, like you know, speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say more often than not, I'm pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>at getting to bed by I want to say latest

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<v Speaker 1>midnight and then like just kind of waking up, I

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<v Speaker 1>like six or seven in the morning, So I would

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm in that range. I might not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hit eight, but I think six or seven is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>pretty normal for me. What about you.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to give myself like two nights a week

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<v Speaker 2>where I get like five hours to sleep, because it

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<v Speaker 2>happens inevitably, especially like as I've had these early wake

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<v Speaker 2>up calls for the CrossFit class. But for the most

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<v Speaker 2>of the for the most of the week, I would

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<v Speaker 2>say I'm getting at least six hours, and on the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend sometimes more, sometimes less. But yeah, I was out

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<v Speaker 2>my So shout out to my friend Frank who he

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<v Speaker 2>did the New York City Triathlon yesterday. Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the same one. I did this one two years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did not do it in one hundred degree

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<v Speaker 2>heat in the middle of the day like he did.

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<v Speaker 2>It was rough, but it was fun. I got I

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<v Speaker 2>went out there. I was out from like seven am

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<v Speaker 2>because the race starts super early. And I kind of like.

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<v Speaker 2>I biked up to the Bronx, which isn't super far

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<v Speaker 2>from where we live right now. I biked over there

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<v Speaker 2>so I could see him during the bike part of

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<v Speaker 2>the race, and then I biked back home, dropped off

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<v Speaker 2>the bike, and then went to Central Park and caught

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<v Speaker 2>him during the run and then I was running around

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<v Speaker 2>and by the end of it, like I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>I had run a trathlon. It was not hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just this heat has been oppressive, Like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>stay my toe out there, and I'm like, yeah, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just go back inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you see a puddle with a weird brown girl

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<v Speaker 2>face on it floating in Bryent Park, that's mine. It

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<v Speaker 2>melts it off and floated away. Today when I went

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<v Speaker 2>to the dentist. Oh, I went to the dentist today.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, you were an adult today. I hate adulting sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, my tooth didn't hurt, but now it does. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't hurting before I went to the dentist. But

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<v Speaker 2>then they go in there with the little tools and

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<v Speaker 2>they pick poke and they prod and that stuff up,

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<v Speaker 2>and now my tooth hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>I always hear people say that they're like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>before I went to the dentist, I was fine. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I feel like the dentists like put something

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<v Speaker 1>in here so I can come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's my I'm really kind of proud of myself

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<v Speaker 2>because you know they always say get a second opinion

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<v Speaker 2>when you go the doctor. And this actually this was

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<v Speaker 2>my second dentist visit in two months, because I went

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<v Speaker 2>last month and the dentist he didn't even look inside

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<v Speaker 2>my mouth, but I was like, oh, my tooth has

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<v Speaker 2>been hurting. So he took an xtray, put it up

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<v Speaker 2>on the screen and he was like, oh, yeah, this tooth,

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to come out. It's totally decaying. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like okay, and then he's like, yeah, well we

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<v Speaker 2>can take it out and then we can put a

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<v Speaker 2>bone implant in and that'll be five thousand dollars. And oh,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, we can't do anesthesia. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>be awake for the procedure. I mean, they can do local,

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<v Speaker 2>but they can't put me under. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, well, let's schedule it right now. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like h to haaa haha, yeah, Like, let

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<v Speaker 2>me let me first see when my insurance will cover,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I had to go. I went back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth was hit with their receptionist too. She had to

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<v Speaker 2>call the insurance company and get a quote, and that

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<v Speaker 2>took like days. I think it took a full week

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<v Speaker 2>before I heard back from her or she heard back

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<v Speaker 2>from my insurer. And when I got the estimate, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like total price five thousand, you will owe three

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars and I was like, okay, before I spend

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<v Speaker 2>three grand on this tooth, let me get a second opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>And so today was my second opinion, and I went

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<v Speaker 2>to a actually found the surgeon on yelp, so shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to yelp. But I went and he first thing

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<v Speaker 2>he did was poken. He looked at my mouth. He

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<v Speaker 2>did a bunch of tests like kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bite on this chew won that does that hurt? Blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, And then he poked it and that definitely hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he did an X ray and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, looking at your X ray, I'm not super

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<v Speaker 2>impressed by it, and the fact that I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>this tooth has to come out, and he like laid

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<v Speaker 2>it out. Not to get too technical technical but he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know this doctor or this other dentist. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to say he was wrong, but he might have

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<v Speaker 2>been too hasty. So let's take three steps back and

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<v Speaker 2>send you back to a regular dentist and have them decide, like,

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<v Speaker 2>see how bad the damage is, and if it's bad,

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<v Speaker 2>then come back to me. Because he was like a surgeon,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the person who takes the tooth out. Regular dentist

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<v Speaker 2>is the one. See, I'm kind of working backwards because

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<v Speaker 2>of this other dentist. Like you're supposed to first go

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<v Speaker 2>to the dentist to like get the diagnosis, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they refer you to a surgeon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but I felt relieved because he was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to say you're not going to lose a tooth,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not. But I also feel like this you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to make any like hasty decisions right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So I saved myself three thousand dollars hopefully.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, Honestly, sometimes I remember when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>high school and like early college, like I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to the dentists and every time I went, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to get like ten fillings and I'm like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even eating that much candy, and it wasn't until I

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<v Speaker 1>got older. So I went to a dentist and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what in the heck? He was like, where

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<v Speaker 1>were you going before I was like what. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these teeth have just like unnecessary feelings, basically

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<v Speaker 1>like the dentists basically panning his pockets by giving me

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<v Speaker 1>random yeah, And I was like, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you don't think about it because if your insurance

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<v Speaker 2>covers it, you're like, oh, I'm not getting in charge

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<v Speaker 2>for it, then okay, do the thing exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's what made me like wow, And it

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<v Speaker 1>just made me really like you said, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>remember that I really should get a second opinion, just

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, the dentists, because I should have known.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like five work havities. I just had five less time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, there was a story in the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times just today today being Monday, that was about how

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<v Speaker 2>dentists and I kind of brought this up to my dentists,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of awkward, but it was about how

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<v Speaker 2>dentists do too many X rays sometimes and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get charged, like you get your free annual X ray

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<v Speaker 2>every year right from the dentists and your insurance covers it,

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<v Speaker 2>and so whenever you go, the dentists will be like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you get a free one, so go ahead and do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are risks to getting the X ray, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's unnecessary, unnecessary, radioactive whatever the term is, going into

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<v Speaker 2>your body even though you have the protective stew or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And basically the article talked about how you really as

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<v Speaker 2>an adult with if you have good, healthy teeth, you

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<v Speaker 2>only need one one every eighteen months instead of one

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<v Speaker 2>every year. But dentists kind of do it because they

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<v Speaker 2>can convince you to do it because it's free, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they'll get the money from the insurer for doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're still going to get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but if you're special like me and your tooth

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<v Speaker 2>is all ft up, then you need special x rays

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<v Speaker 2>many times. Also, I'm going to refund for my other

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<v Speaker 2>dentists because I feel like I was told. I was

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<v Speaker 2>told a lie that my teeth were perfect in the

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<v Speaker 2>last two years, and I have been going and I

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<v Speaker 2>have been taking care of my teeth, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a kind of a like a freak

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<v Speaker 2>thing from a feeling I had had like ten years

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<v Speaker 2>ago that wasn't that like came back to I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it started to decay or something like that. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but anyway, I guess the moral is to definitely go

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<v Speaker 2>to more than one dentist if you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 2>if they're missing stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and also to if you know your body better

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<v Speaker 1>than anyone, don't let anyone tell you how you feel.

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<v Speaker 1>If something does not feel right or just doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>right and it's not in alignment with what they're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>then keep pushing. I hear that so many times when

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<v Speaker 1>people will find out, you know what you were right,

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<v Speaker 1>you do have this thing that's really wrong. Everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, Oh it's nothing, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Oh yeah, I mean, well, it's hard, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in today's like medical culture, where everyone is like

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<v Speaker 2>if you go to the regular doctor, like a primary

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<v Speaker 2>care position, it's like tons of people, the waiting room

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<v Speaker 2>is packed, they're only seeing you for like fifteen When

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<v Speaker 2>when my doctor sees me, I love her, but she

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<v Speaker 2>speaks like Gilmore girls fast like and I'm like, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know she's but guess because she has like so

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<v Speaker 2>many other patients and I feel like they want the

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<v Speaker 2>easy answer, and it's hard to find doctors who will

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<v Speaker 2>like take the time to really listen to you. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's when it's good to I guess see a specialist

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<v Speaker 2>like this, Like this dentist sing a real specialist. He

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<v Speaker 2>took his time. He was like putting me at ease,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could tell he was like actually thinking really

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<v Speaker 2>hard about the decision to yank a piece of someone's

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<v Speaker 2>body out of their mouth. For as the other dentist

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<v Speaker 2>was like, ah, we can do this, did all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do it right now. Three thousand dollars place exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I remember when I had to get a

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<v Speaker 1>like a tooth, so who knows what I was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to get it, But I got like a tooth replaced,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sent me to the specialist. He just like

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<v Speaker 1>literally over my he looked. It was like yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't And at the time, my dentist, he was terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't tell me. I didn't know. I was young,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't know that you had to pay seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars for a guy to look in your mouth

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<v Speaker 1>and say, yeah, this needs to come out. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I got the bill, I'm like, what is this for?

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<v Speaker 1>Because my dad just didn't say, we're going to refer

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<v Speaker 1>you to a specialist. You know, this is an additional cost.

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<v Speaker 1>He just said, I'm going to have my guy come

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<v Speaker 1>in to take a look. And I just said okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know what, I'm like twenty one, We're like okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so that was such like an eye opener. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just you just got to be on your piece. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say q's and p's peace and qus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really you got to read your insurance policy to

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<v Speaker 2>really know what you're covering. And yeah, the specialists costs

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<v Speaker 2>more than a primary care physician. And if you get referred,

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<v Speaker 2>like I always ask before it because most doctors don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about the billing, and it's okay because

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<v Speaker 2>they're not They don't have the answers anyway. All the

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<v Speaker 2>doctors do is do the thing that they're doing, and

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<v Speaker 2>they tell the billing department what they did. The billing

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<v Speaker 2>department decides what codes to use and what to tell

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<v Speaker 2>your insure and they're the ones who hold the answers

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<v Speaker 2>to what things cost. And I don't think you should

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<v Speaker 2>be shy at all about asking your the billy asking

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<v Speaker 2>to be transferred to the billing department and then saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to come in for XYZ. Can you tell me,

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<v Speaker 2>like give me an estimate of what my insurance would

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<v Speaker 2>cover or what it would cost out of pocket, And

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<v Speaker 2>they may like ho hum, and like, oh, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>really tell until in more complicated complicated procedures, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't tell. Like if you're getting some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like surgical operation and things become complicated, then yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>can cost a lot more. But if you're going in

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<v Speaker 2>for like a routine filling or an an MRI or

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<v Speaker 2>an X ray or something like that, they can pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much tell you what the sticker price is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's our extended talk about that's actually but.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, like medical expenses, like are you this is

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<v Speaker 2>my first time, you know, love my new job. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at my insurance policy and we have a deductible,

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<v Speaker 2>like a thousand dollars deductible.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That means that I have to come out of pocket

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<v Speaker 2>at least one thousand dollars before my insurance kicks in.

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<v Speaker 2>So immediately I asked to raise my hands and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, wait a second, do we have an FSA

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<v Speaker 2>account and an FSA Flex Savings account. It's base. You

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<v Speaker 2>can contribute money before your texts are taken out of

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<v Speaker 2>your paycheck. Okay, so you're saving, like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>whatever percentage your tax rate is fifteen twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>percent on those dollars. So I and we didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>one and shout out to my boss. He was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't, but I'll add one now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think and you don't think to. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I work at a small company, so it's that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's that easy all the time. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think companies the best way to have change, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at your company they don't offer stuff like fessays, is

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<v Speaker 2>just to like raise your hand and ask. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they overlooked it or didn't consider the additional costs

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<v Speaker 2>of having these deductibles. But it can't hurt to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>It can never hurt to ask. What is somebody? I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the phone with my friend CHK last night

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, if you don't ask, you don't get.

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<v Speaker 1>And it took me a while that was like, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a ah, Yeah, you don't ask, you don't get but

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<v Speaker 1>that's just good.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask ask, ask, It's been you know, I've had to

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of stuff because when you work at

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<v Speaker 2>a smaller company, like there's stuff that you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they don't think about that you personally, you know, have

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it or have asked for I can. The

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<v Speaker 2>FSA is like one of the most recent examples, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, plastic forks in the cabinet, coffee

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<v Speaker 2>for the coffee machine, stuff like that, like those little things,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've had to have some, like I think a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had to ask a lot of questions that I

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<v Speaker 2>think people might feel awkward about generally, but if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't do it, no one will, and then nothing ever gets.

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<v Speaker 1>Better exactly someone else. Listen, now, how was did I ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I share California? Deet?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's right, you were on vacation last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was great. I mean, I would say the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest highlight was definitely Universal Studios, which was awesome. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever been to Universal Studios?

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<v Speaker 2>Not since I was a little bit, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>have never.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go as a grown up though, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>You should, Like I'm going to tell you Superman was

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever, I'm not gonna even like love these rides.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the biggest kid, like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>love the Minions.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, the Minions. I go hard for the

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<v Speaker 2>Minions for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you were Oh yeah, the Minions are awesome. But

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<v Speaker 1>the ride was incredible, like who knew the menu ride?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean me, two minutes sixty six he got out, like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it again. I know, but it was so

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<v Speaker 1>much fun. I had to say, like, it was my

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<v Speaker 1>second time going to Universe, so but the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I wasted it, like cause I am not a I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a roller coaster person. And the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Florida speaking at an event and it was

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<v Speaker 1>right next to Universal Studios. So the conference gave us

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<v Speaker 1>like free passes or something. So I went, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like go on any rides because I assumed that

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<v Speaker 1>they were roller coasters and I'm afraid of roller coasters.

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<v Speaker 1>So this time I went and I just was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with the fan, we'll just all do the roller

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<v Speaker 1>coasters together. Then I realized they're not roller coasters. They're

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<v Speaker 1>virtual rides where you basically sit in one place, but

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're moving, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea. So it just so. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the dyes are virtual. Some of them move a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Harry Potter ride definitely moves some It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mummy ride it was awesome, but most of it

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of just sit in the chair and the

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<v Speaker 1>chair will move a little and shake a little or

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<v Speaker 1>go up and down a little. But the virtual part

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<v Speaker 1>has you feeling like you're like falling down into a

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<v Speaker 1>wormhole or flying sky. Yeah. It honestly, I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>describe like it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Any tips on how much did it all cost? If

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<v Speaker 2>you don't money, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't mind. It was a grip, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one hundred dollars. We're like, well, Supergirl was

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine dollars because she's a kid, so I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what kids cost. Oh okay, and then for

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<v Speaker 1>the adult it was like one fifteen. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I found like a five dollar coupon for each of

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<v Speaker 1>us off, but I was doing so much research to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get They.

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<v Speaker 2>Started that surge pricing like uber so during one demand

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<v Speaker 2>for tickets at Universal studios is high. You raise prices.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wonder what it like. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it was because honestly it wasn't. It wasn't packed. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, like, no, we didn't wait more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes for any ride with Superman. Was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, these lines, I'm like, what get your life?

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<v Speaker 1>You clearly don't go to music parks. This is nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't go to Chipotle at noon in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like honestly most of them we walk right up to,

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<v Speaker 1>like the line would basically was like just the line

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<v Speaker 1>to get on the ride. It wasn't like the line

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for everyone else. Yeah, it was in the Harry

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<v Speaker 1>Potter I guess like Little Worlds definitely better in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was dope in California too.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, I haven't been yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have to say overall I like the one

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<v Speaker 1>in California better, but there were sections of the Florida

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<v Speaker 1>one that I like better. Like their Harry Potter World

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<v Speaker 1>is more convincing, like literally with the way they do it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you to enter the Harry World, you slipped

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<v Speaker 1>through like a like a war.

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<v Speaker 2>Do tell me, don't tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Oh my god, what are you doing? Sorry? Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I fade. I'm waiting. I'm waiting with baited breath

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<v Speaker 2>for my copy of the Harry Potter and the Cursed

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<v Speaker 2>Child book that's coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's another one next week?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Then you know how they're doing the play in London. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they are releasing the play like the script basically as

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<v Speaker 2>a book. Okay, so it's almost like an eighth Harry

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<v Speaker 2>Potter book. It basically is an eighth Harry Potter book.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told you were My brother and I are

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<v Speaker 2>going to London to see this play.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, you told me that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So that we booked our airbnb, which ended up costing us.

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<v Speaker 2>It was about nine hundred dollars, but it would have

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<v Speaker 2>cost us like fifteen hundred minimum to do a hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking forward to staying in this cool apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, if you guys have any cheap travel tips

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<v Speaker 2>in London. Also, it's only a four day trip, so

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<v Speaker 2>let me know where I should go and what I

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<v Speaker 2>should see. I'm excited. That's in September.

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<v Speaker 1>London is not my favorite I know, people are like

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<v Speaker 1>I love London. I don't know. I've been twice and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of like, it's expensive, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is about London, There's nothing wrong with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I when I the two times I've been,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, cleaner New York. Hey, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so like the big city. Yeah, it's just no,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's a nice city. But it just felt

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<v Speaker 1>like a New York without like, you know, as much trash.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I like when I go places to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not in Kansas anymore, you know, and like

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<v Speaker 1>London gave me like a feeling of familiar familiarity. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure I'm saying it incorrectly because my tongue has given

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<v Speaker 1>me twisties, but yeah, so London just made it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like almost like home. So I was like, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>am I spending all this money to feel like home?

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's when I moved to Chile after college, I

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Santiago, Chile, And before I left, my mom

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<v Speaker 2>was like do they live in huts down there?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you going to be staying? My mother is

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<v Speaker 2>just God bless her thinks that anything so anything not

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<v Speaker 2>in America is like the Third World, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>uh no, it's Santiago. When I got off the flight,

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing I saw was block was not Blockbuster.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Dunkin Donuts, Duncan Donuts and KFC. And part

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<v Speaker 2>of me was like, oh, because I'm like ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go on this grand adventure in South America, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I can get a Domino's pizza if i'd get hungry.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. It's great. And like everyone there loves the

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<v Speaker 2>American brand, so there's McDonald's and like, you know, all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. It's hard. America has such a huge influence

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<v Speaker 2>on the rest of the world. It's hard to go

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere and not feel like see those little businesses and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Abroad, You're right, you go someplace, you're like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're gonna make this Harry Potter London trip, so

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<v Speaker 2>Westminster Abbey. I might come look at you, uncle Ben,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you'll get a passing glance, but it's only a

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<v Speaker 2>half four days. I need to be more like, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to be more strategic with our sight seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>I always get on one of those big winterf I travel.

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<v Speaker 1>I always do one of those double decker buses like

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<v Speaker 1>by that pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you were talking about that before. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>what the costs in London? Have you done it there before?

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<v Speaker 1>M h, I did? What was it? I remember, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just being comparable to what it costs here. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know how it's like good to pass. It's good for

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<v Speaker 1>three days. And when we would use it as like

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<v Speaker 1>a fake taxi, like okay, first day, we just ride

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<v Speaker 1>it all through, second day we would just get off

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<v Speaker 1>where we wanted to get off. And then third day

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<v Speaker 1>usually we'd gifted to somebody, Oh you can do that, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>cause you know it's like so they give you like

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<v Speaker 1>this random long receipt thing and it's basically good for

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<v Speaker 1>three days. So I don't know if the same company

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<v Speaker 1>owns the red double deck buses in every country or

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<v Speaker 1>most countries, but there is usually the same thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just hop on, hop off, and it's good for three days.

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<v Speaker 1>But after day one or two, I'm usually good, and

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<v Speaker 1>so like the last day that I'm using it, I

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<v Speaker 1>usually give it to someone like, hey, you want it,

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:45.919
<v Speaker 1>It's still good for tomorrow because it's not like your

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<v Speaker 1>name is on it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then does the hobo say they'd rather have a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't give it to like the hobo, like

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<v Speaker 1>give it to like tourists.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever had that happen to you. I gave

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<v Speaker 2>a sorry to call them a hobo, but I gave

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<v Speaker 2>a homeless person. I was walking in to Dwayne Reid

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, you know they have sandwiches

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 2>in here. Can I grab you something for lunch? And

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:06.359
<v Speaker 2>he was like, man, I'm trying to get a sub

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 2>boy sandwich. I was like, well, then go stand outside

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 2>a subway, like what New York City so homeless?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Well? I remember one time a woman was like like,

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<v Speaker 1>well it was a homeless woman. She was outside and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, oh, so cold, I need socks. And

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:23.639
<v Speaker 1>I actually was headed to a place where I was

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<v Speaker 1>donating socks and I was like, oh my gosh, you're

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>in luck here new pack of new socks. She was like, oh,

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I actually want to pick up my own socks. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you got money, I was like, girl off bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. She wasn't expecting me to have socks in

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<v Speaker 1>my pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Serious, I didn't mean that literally, darling.

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, socks it's figurative for a money.

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<v Speaker 2>Shall we shall we boost and break?

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:57.879
<v Speaker 1>Yes? I think I'm going to boost and boost. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you said you're going to boost, right, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna boost too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a positive boosting episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know what boosting means though in the hood, right,

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>like stealing something, Yeah, and then selling it.

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I got some street credit, right, I don't sound like it.

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.719
<v Speaker 2>That's my mama from the Midwest, her influence. But uh,

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 2>I've seen much. I've seen much in my young life.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to go first with the boost in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So this is something I've started doing the past

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 2>couple of years. And you call me crazy, but I

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<v Speaker 2>like to buy presents months in advance, like months before

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<v Speaker 2>the actual occasion. I'm talking weddings, birthdays, Christmas. And I

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 2>do this for a couple of reasons. One because I

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 2>don't like Christmas time coming around, or you know the

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 2>September when everybody all the New Year's babies have birthdays

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 2>come around, and like all of a sudden, you have

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>fifteen parties to go to and fifteen gifts to give,

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and like it's really overwhelming budget wise. So I buy

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<v Speaker 2>stuff months in advance. And it's not just to save money,

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 2>so that I'm not spending a ton of money, like

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 2>all at one time at a certain time, excuse me,

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 2>in a certain time of year. But it's like I

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 2>have this if there's a halo effect, I think when

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you buy gifts for other people where it just puts

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<v Speaker 2>me in a really good mood. And that sounds really corny,

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 2>I know, but it happened with the Hamilton tickets. So

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I bought those for my fiance back in September and

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<v Speaker 2>up until like February when I finally cracked and told

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>him what he was getting for his birthday. Like it

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 2>was so exciting to have that secret and to keep

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 2>imagining all the different ways I was gonna tell him,

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.919
<v Speaker 2>none of which actually happened because I just spilled it

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 2>to him, you know, like on the couch at home.

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, it makes me feel so good

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.439
<v Speaker 2>to know that this surprise is coming. And I just

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 2>like knowing stuff other people don't know, Like you have

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 2>no idea what's coming. You're gonna love this. And I

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 2>was thinking about this because I bought my mom's hope,

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 2>if she's listening, I bought my mom's Christmas gift yesterday,

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 2>and let me just tell you, she is gonna flip out.

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm like, and it's so like I'm

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 2>just imagining her face and her reaction just right now,

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's me so much of the feels. She's gonna

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 2>love it, and it's gonna be an experience for both

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>of us to share anyway. So if you want to

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 2>give yourself the happy feels, or at least start preparing,

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 2>like think about what you're gonna get, so and so

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<v Speaker 2>for Christmas in July, I highly recommend it. That is all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my boost.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. I I mean, I can see that

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>like giving gifts the I'm the world, Like I enjoy

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>giving gifts as far as the reaction, but I'm so

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>bad at like pre planning. Like Superman's birthday is on

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>August third, and I'm like, wait, I should probably get

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>his gifts, so.

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Because if you don't, then it's the last minute and

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 2>then you're running around and you're all stressed, and then

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh god, I got.

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Something, but like you want to get the right thing,

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and I know what I want to get him too.

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, like he we were he checked into the hospital,

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, he like had some headaches and

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>remember he had the aneurysm. So whenever he has like

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 1>a bad headache, he's like going to the hospital, you know,

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>just to be on the safe side. But it was

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>ended up being nothing. But he had to go through

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the that huge magnet thing. What is that thing called?

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like a circle, but it's a magnet anyway,

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>So he had to take off his watch and he

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>left his favorite watch there and by the time he

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>remembered and he got went back and tried to call,

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.199
<v Speaker 1>of course nobody saw it, which I thought was terrible.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, the hospital. At the hospital, they have a

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 2>metal detector at the hospital.

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>No, he went through that MRI. That's what it was.

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh the metal.

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, the circular magnetic thing. I know. You

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>were like, I don't know what she's done? What mr.

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>So he had to take off his watch and yeah,

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>so he was like really like, you know, doubt about it.

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.959
<v Speaker 1>And in my mind I was seeking meanwhile, that watch

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>that was living with Jesus because that watch was given

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to him by his ex girlfriend. But you know, I'm

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>not going to tell you to give because I have stuff.

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I was like, well, I mean I

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>feel bad, but it so I was like, well, I'm

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 1>going to replace it give a nice watch, you know,

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>And so that's what I want to give him for

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>his birthday. But I have not done the search.

0:27:58.600 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is with men in their

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 2>damn watches. No, they are so expensive. I guess it's

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 2>like us and shoes. You know. I can use gender

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 2>stereotypes for a minute, but I yeah, and fiance has like,

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 2>legitimately seriously put we have a we share pinterress boards,

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, so we can when there's like a you know,

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 2>a holiday coming up. I like to look at his

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 2>pintress board. What's what is he like today or what's

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 2>he looking at whatever. It's a good way. I think

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 2>it's a smart way to like share ideas. Anyway, he

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 2>like seriously puts five thousand dollars watches on his pintress board,

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, can we try more attainable goals like

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>a puppy.

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Right, or or a unicorn? You're not getting a dag

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>on I'm not watching seriously now. Yeah, so I'm gonna

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>get him a nice walk. Oh okay, yeah, it sounded

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>like something fell hard downstairs. I didn't anybody scream, so

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>oh God, everybody's alive. So here is my boost. My

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>boost is a little bit of fun. So you know,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>we all know the last few weeks have been hard

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>for brown a bishing community, just with all the violence

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and all the the police just stuff that's happening, and

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>just you know, our community is just it's a sad time,

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll say that, and a hard time. And so there's

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>this woman. I don't know what her real name is,

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>but she has kind of popped up from the from

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Instagram and she's hilarious. She's actually a young woman, but

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>she's like an Instagram comedian. She's just a comedian. And

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 1>her video she portrays this older woman named Shirlene s

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>h I R L e E N sure.

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sorry, I'm very sorry.

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.719
<v Speaker 1>And she is, when I say hilarious, huh lay, if

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>anybody has ever gone to church like Southern Baptist, just

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>just and knows any old black woman from church, that

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>is Shirlene. She is sassy, she is funny, and you

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>can't it's hard to imagine this is actually a young

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>woman because she has the clothes, the look, the mannerisms,

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the wig, just everything like an old black woman from church.

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>And she her videos it's all clean. She doesn't curse

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>in them. She's clearly Christian because her all of her

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>comedy kind of like surrounds like church and stuff. But

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>when I say hilarious, So if you kind of need

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>a break from all of the doom and gloom, then

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>head to her Instagram. Accrown, it's the christ Eye Show, the.

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Christ the Christie Show.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I think so too, And I'm like, it's spelled the

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Christy Show.

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Sure, it's the Christie Show. I'm like, it's spelled Christie

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:42.719
<v Speaker 2>with an eye. That's what's happening.

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, go ahead and get you some Charlene or just

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>hashtag Chirleine. So if you need a little giggle, I'm

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>telling you will get your life. She is everything the

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Christie Show on Instagram and hashtag Charlene and you're gonna

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>get your life. You just will.

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>And after that you should look at the Care for

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>You Black Kids hashtag on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I did that that day, he said it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was everything as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Any little silver linings in the tragic world we live in.

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh, let me tell you a little silver lining. So

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>on my way back from Florida, I saw this, like

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<v Speaker 1>big beefy guy. He looked like what, I don't know,

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>like a bodybuilder almost, and I was sitting in.

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Like, say's a silver lining contend you now?

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<v Speaker 1>But then with him seemed like you ever look at

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>people You're like, oh, that's a different match, because he

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 1>was this big, beefy white guy and he was with

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a skinny, little like black little boy looked maybe about

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>seven eight years old, and I was wondering, I'm like, oh,

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>what's their story? So we ended up chatting and he said, oh,

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm a lawyer, which that took me by surprise because

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>he legitimately looked like a professional wrestler, like he was

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>exploding out of his clothes, like as far as his muscles.

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And so he said, I'm a lawyer and I'm taking

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I was on my way to Newark to

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<v Speaker 1>visit my family, and I just finished the paperwork for

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>this young kid right here. He's he just found a

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>foster family. And they asked me, you know, since you're

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>going to New York anyway, can you take him and

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>his foster family would meet you at the airport. And

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh wow, that real. Yeah, And it

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>was just like and like, honestly, this little boy was

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>just like so happy, go lucky, just you know, little kids,

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>bopping around and playing with stuff and touching everything he's

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to touch, but being like a kid, you know.

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And so the guy was really great with him, and

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>he was just like, you know, so when you get

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to New York, if you see balloons and a sign,

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>it's for him. And I was like okay, and I

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't think anything of it. Like we were on the flight,

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>we sat in different places, and then when I got off,

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I saw this family. It was a woman, she was right,

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>her husband was black, and they had their daughter with

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>them and they were sitting on the steps kind of

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like do the do, waiting and they

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>had balloons and a sign that said like, you know,

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>welcome home. I forget the little boy's name, and I

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>walked up to them because he was still I guess

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>waiting for his like luggage and stuff, and I said

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>are you waiting for? Like as soon as I said

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>are you waiting for? The woman lit up and she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yes, that he's on his way and he

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>is so adorable, and she put her hand to her

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>heart and made that like only mom make face, you know,

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, the face, like, oh that face, and it

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>was just so honestly, I just wanted to roll around

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and like the love they had for this little boy

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>that they hadn't even met yet.

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>How old was the boy?

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<v Speaker 1>He looked to be about seven or eight years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were foster family.

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<v Speaker 1>Or yeah, well faster I think. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they were. I don't know that. That's what I thought

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>was so great because it was his foster family, and

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>but it looked like, honestly by the way they came

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>out for him that you know, I would not be

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>surprised if they didn't adopt him, like you know, with time.

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's nice.

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, my big sister, she just her and her

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 2>wife just signed up for the just like got onboarded

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 2>into the foster system in Wisconsin where they live, and

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's a long process. It takes like a year,

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>but they want to adopt really bad. So I'm gonna

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna share because I wonder I know what foster

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>is different than adoption and the process takes a long time,

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna have to have to pick her brain

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 2>about like what it's actually like to foster a kid. Yeah,

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 2>there's so many kids out there.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Right, and you know, like honestly, like I mean, it's

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>just it doesn't take anything but a Google search to

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>find out that black boys are the least likely to

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>be taken in let alone black boys who are not babies.

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I made her promise to adopt a black boy, and.

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I just to see them be so excited about it,

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and just to know that, like you know who I mean,

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know his life and what he's been through

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>he but just to know that like at the very

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>least at the onset with this connection with this family,

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>that they were excited for him to come, and you know,

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>had already like pulled out some of the stops and

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>just were just excited to meet him. I just wanted

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to like stay and like be a voyeur, but I

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, Tivity, gome, Yeah, do we have questions?

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 2>We do have some questions and good questions this week.

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we're gonna get to all three

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 2>of them, but we're gonna start and see how how

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<v Speaker 2>much time it takes. Okay, the first this question is

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<v Speaker 2>from jah Tim. Thank you for spelling your name phonetically

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>for me. Shatim is twenty five years old, she said

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 2>she's entering. She says, I'm entering my fourth year of

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>earning a salary. I was a teacher and now I'm

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 2>starting a position with an education nonprofit. But my savings

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 2>and retirement are not where I'd like them to be

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 2>due to some moments in life. Quote unko, This is

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>a quote where Ish got real. It's actually really sad.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>So sorry, yeah, it's it's sad, but those were her words.

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 2>She says. My first year working for my employer, my

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 2>employee match five percent, and my retirement was after about

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 2>after interest and investing eighteen hundred dollars, it was over

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 2>forty four hundred dollars. But my son passed away at

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 2>four weeks old due to SIDS, and I could not

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>return to the home and city where I was living

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>so far away from my family after such a traumatic event.

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 2>So fast forward two year and then my third year

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>of working, I moved into a town a townhouse and

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 2>use money from my emergency fund for my deposit. Then

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I got into a car accident which wiped out my

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 2>savings from all the rental car fees, medical copays and

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>other things. Now July twenty sixteen, I only have about

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars in savings more or less, and I

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 2>still have that forty eight hundred dollars in my retirement savings.

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 2>My new job does match three percent, and the plan

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>is interests yielding, but I'm still not sure about my

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 2>next steps. Her question is should I still contribute to

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 2>my retirement since I don't have any savings, or should

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I meet a savings school and then contribute to my

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:44.240
<v Speaker 2>retirement Jimjimjitim.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's not Charlene, but you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, it's that possible to do both.

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it can be possible to do both. I

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 2>would say so off the bat, her job is matching

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 2>three percent, I would contribute at least three percent. To

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 2>sit down and do the math, like how much is

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 2>three percent? And can you afford to set aside three

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 2>percent of your retirement and additionally save for your emergency

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 2>fund if you can make it both work, Like say

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you put three percent into your retirement fund and then

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>five percent into a savings account. If you can make

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 2>that work, that's the ideal situation, because you don't want

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 2>to leave that money on the table. You don't they're

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:23.720
<v Speaker 2>literally giving you money.

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that three percent you should really strive to

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>set aside that three percent. And I don't think I

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people think that. Do you find

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that many that people are like oh one or like

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>it's like when it takes all and they're like, oh,

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I have debt and I want to say which one

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.720
<v Speaker 1>should I do? And you're like, well, girl, I mean both.

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing. I think it's the way you

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 2>think about debt versus savings. She doesn't have any debt,

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 2>doesn't sound like. But I would say for this, like,

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 2>you're getting three percent back on your money, so you

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want to leave that money on the table. But

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>that money is going into retirement account that really is

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 2>difficult to touch, and if you do touch it, you're

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna get hit with taxes, penalty, you know, ten You

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 2>can see ten percent losses or more probably more by

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 2>dipping into your emergency fund or dipping into your four

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 2>one K and using that as an emergency fund.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>YEP.

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>So I would say, if it is that dire and

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>you really cannot afford to do both, and I would

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 2>suggest focusing on your savings because that's the money you're

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna need to get one like you said, I mean,

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>weren't you so grateful you had that money when you

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.959
<v Speaker 2>came to a car accident, Like that's why you don't

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 2>have credit card debt, which is amazing. I would say,

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 2>focus on building that back up and before you focus

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 2>on retirement. If you do the math and realize you

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 2>can't make both work.

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think, like let's just say, like

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>for the sake of argument, that you're like, okay, I

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 1>have four percent of my income. I mean, then I

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 1>would do two and two percent because I just feel

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>really strongly that retirement should not be neglected just because eventually,

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're fortunate enough, you get to an

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>age where you are not able to work, and it's

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>really like your younger self's job to look after your

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>older self, because at some point you're going to be

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>in a position where you cannot put the work in

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to support yourself just physically you're not able, so you know,

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and so, and also because putting aside for retirement really

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>is a habit, even if it's like, let's just say

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you can't fully match and you're like, okay, I'm just

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna do one percent, So I wouldn't I wouldn't sacrifice

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 1>retirement fully, even if you can't do a whole lot,

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>just getting into the habit of putting at least something

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 1>away and slowly inching toward where you want to be,

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 1>but work on both.

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 2>I think another thing people struggle with is figuring out

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>how much to save, and that's when you start the

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 2>rules like three months savings, three months of your income

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 2>and expenses saved in an emergency fund, or six months

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>or a year. She did give us a clue, so

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to tell what her magic number should be

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.280
<v Speaker 2>for savings because we don't know exactly what her expenses

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 2>are every month, but she does say that she had

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 2>to put down twelve hundred dollars for a deposit for

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>her townhouse, which I feel like that's probably her monthly payment.

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So you want to have at least what three times

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 2>twelve hundred thirty six hundred. So if you just make

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 2>thirty six hundred your savings goal and then find out

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 2>how much you can contribute per month, you know over

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 2>how many months to get there, that's probably a good

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>place to start. But don't feel like you need to

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 2>have tens of thousands of dollars in your account. Before

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 2>you can save for retirement.

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, for sure, because that's just not true. All right, Jetim,

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I hope you've helped.

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 2>We're sending you love Tim. It means I love you

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>in French.

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I know. Well, okay, I'll say okito.

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, okay, here's our next question. Who wants to be anonymous?

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Here's what she said. She says, I am a reformed

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 2>mishandler of credit cards. I still have some debt, but

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm on fire with paying them off and I've fallen

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 2>in love with budgeting and being as debt free as possible.

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Bless you child. My initial thought around credit is that

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't want them at all. I was a Dave

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Ramsey girl, and of course Dave Ramsey is all anti credit.

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 2>But lately I've been hearing about how easy it asked

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 2>to have your how easy it is to have your

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>debit card compromised by fraud, and the perks of credit

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 2>card points and rewards. I'm slowly becoming a credit card

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.319
<v Speaker 2>user and paying it off week to week, but I'm

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 2>terrified of having a relapse. So question, what are your

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on using a credit card for everything with the

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 2>intention of just paying it off weekly? Versus going back

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:33.720
<v Speaker 2>to a debit card lifestyle. Also, how do you structure

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 2>your spending on credit to make sure you do not

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 2>carry a balance? We didn't do this one before, No,

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 2>we haven't.

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, no, just because that sounded so familiar. I am

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>a Dave Ramsey girl, but that piece anyway, Hey, Dave Ramsey.

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Girl ran spink a new So I get this a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>In the in the DreamCatcher group, Like, some people are

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like totally anti credit card and some people are like, no,

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.880
<v Speaker 1>leave me alone. I love my credit card. I'm somewhere

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:04.320
<v Speaker 1>in the middle. I totally can understand why Dave Ramsey

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>takes to stand against credit cards because so many people

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 1>are their financial lives are honestly destroyed by the way

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>they use credit cards. But I think that the attention

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:16.879
<v Speaker 1>is on the wrong thing. Credit cards are not bad

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 1>or good. It's like a hammer. A hammer is just

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a tool. The person picks it up. They can build

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>a house with that hammer, or they can knock down

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a house with that hammer. It's the person who's using

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the hammer that decides. Same thing with credit cards, they're

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>merely a tool. So if you are not sure if

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you're able to manage them, well, then leave them alone.

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>But if you think that you can, then you know,

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>then you then you can use them. I think we

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>live in America and credit is one. It's a core

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>financial system that we use here in America to navigate

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.240
<v Speaker 1>our personal finances, and it's very difficult to get away

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>from not using credit cards. It's not impossible. But for example,

0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>here's how I use my credit card. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>credit cards, one of which I use specifically just to

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>raise my credit score. It stays home my Netflix charge

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>is it eight bucks a month or nine bucks whatever

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Netflix is, and my bank account pays it off every month,

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>So literally I don't even know where that credit card is.

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>It just gets paid off in full every single month.

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And then the other credit card I use for business,

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I use it when I'm It's a travel card, so

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 1>whenever I'm booking a flight or hotel or anything, I

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:27.760
<v Speaker 1>use that card because I want to earn points towards

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>free flights. And most months I pay it off in full,

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 1>but some months I wait a little bit because I

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>might also use that card to buy books. So if

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>someone says, hey, Tiffany, we want to order a thousand

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>books for you from you, so I might swipe a

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>thousand books on my credit card and when they pay me,

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I pay it off, but it might not be to

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the next month. But I would say usually I don't

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 1>carry a balance for more than a month or two.

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>But for the most part, I pay my credit cards

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>off in full every month. But so I but I

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>know there's one of my ex boyfriend used to do

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:00.839
<v Speaker 1>this on his American Express card. He used to put

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 1>all of his bills on it and then pay it

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>off every single month. Now I always say that's for like,

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>that's that's not for everybody. You have to really have

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the discipline to do so, or else you're just going

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to have a huge bill and not know what to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it.

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I would have had the money to people bill at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the.

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Month exactly, So I would just if I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like reformed and starting small. You know, if you

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>can get yourself a credit card with a very low balance,

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 1>put something really inexpensive on it and automate that payment

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>like your Netflix or something, just to keep your robbing

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 1>credit kind of like open and rolling. You don't have

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>to necessarily use it, just knowing that, like, Okay, it's

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>there and I'm building credit history by using this card responsibly,

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.839
<v Speaker 1>even though I'm not technically using it right.

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she does bring up the issue of fraud,

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 2>which is true. It is a real risk. And while

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 2>so say, let's say your debit card is hacked in

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 2>mine has been before, you lose a bunch of money.

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Your bank will both likely pay you back, but it

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 2>could take a couple of days. And when it's cash

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 2>money and you need that cash, it can really it

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 2>can really hurt. So in that regard, yeah, I think

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 2>credit is sometimes the better option when you're shopping online

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 2>or you're traveling abroad. If you get hit by a fraud,

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 2>it's better to have it on credit than using a

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.240
<v Speaker 2>debit card. I have an issue with the whole points

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 2>and reward system. It's great, like it's awesome. I personally

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 2>use one credit card for my grocery shopping because I

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 2>get six percent cash back and I make like bookoo

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>money over the year that pays off. It has an

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 2>annual fee, but I make way more than that in

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 2>cash back than the fee. But I am a reformed

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 2>mishandler of credit cards. Like me, Mandy Woodriff, I used

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 2>to be really bad when I was in college, I

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 2>would like max out their credit card and then it

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 2>would you know, I'd pay off twenty bucks so I

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 2>could buy lunch, you know what I mean. Like, and

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 2>it would constantly just be almost at the limit all

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the time, and I was playing finance charges and late

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>fees and stuff like that. What I've done for myself

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 2>now that I've slowly started using credit again in the

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>past couple of years. The key that I don't think

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:00.799
<v Speaker 2>people do is set yours like your credit limit is

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:03.399
<v Speaker 2>not how much money, like that's not your real credit limit,

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 2>like it's how much the bank says you can charge,

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 2>which is great, but you should not. You should never

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 2>be maxing at your credit cards. And even less than that,

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 2>you should be sitting down and figuring out what is

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 2>the amount it can comfortably pay off every month and

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 2>then make sure that you're not charging more than that

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.360
<v Speaker 2>amount on your credit card. And for me, it was

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 2>a certain amount. And so I have my own personal

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 2>credit card limit in my head all the time, and

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 2>when I get close to it, I'm like, Okay, no

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 2>more credit cards for the month, because I know I

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>need to have cash to pay it off at the

0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 2>end of the month. I like what she said about

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 2>paying it off weekly, because I don't think people realize

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 2>they can do that. Just make payments on your credit

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 2>card as you go, yep. So if you get paid

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>twice a month, you know, use half of one paycheck

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.800
<v Speaker 2>to pay half your bill, and then the next paycheck

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 2>use have to pay the whole bill so that you're

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 2>not getting this huge payment all at one time. That

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>could be smart.

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I do that, Oh you do like whenever, like sometimes

0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like I just, for example, just got

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to check in the mail clients, and I was like, oh,

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about this, So I might use that to say, Okay,

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I just ordered books for somebody else. Let me put

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 1>this toward the credit card real quick, just because, you know,

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:11.919
<v Speaker 1>or something. I've been one known to put like five

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars just to start nibbling it down when I

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:16.720
<v Speaker 1>was really learning how to pay off my credit cards.

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.839
<v Speaker 1>I've you know, mishandled credit cards as well at one

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 1>point in my life. But I'm grown up, you know,

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I've grown out of that now.

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I have Yeah, and you say you have a travel account,

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 2>savings account for your travel. I have a savings account

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 2>for my travel, and I have the money saved up,

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:33.319
<v Speaker 2>but I'll still charge it on credits. I get two

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.439
<v Speaker 2>points and then I just paid off immediately. Yep.

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I do that all the time.

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 2>So if you use it as a tool, like I'm

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 2>going to save up the cash to make these purchases

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 2>or I'm going to make sure i have enough set

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 2>aside from each paycheck to afford these purchases, and then

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:47.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to use this credit card and then I'm

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 2>going to say, haha, credit card companies give me my

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 2>points and then pay it off and then you don't

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 2>pay any fees or interest. Then that is the ideal

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 2>way to use it.

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 1>It is like I just got a notice from my

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>travel card that I have enough points for my flight

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 1>for a flight that was like Woho. So that's perfect

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>so me and Superman. So what I try to do

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>with my credit with my flights is that when I'm

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.439
<v Speaker 1>speaking somewhere and someone's paying for my flight and hotel,

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I will use the points to say, hey, Superman, come

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>with me, because the hotel is already paid for. Oftentimes

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the food is paid for, so he just has to

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 1>pay for like, you know, his own food. If it's

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 1>not like kind of like group eating but it's like

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like a little mini vacation that costs us next

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 1>to nothing. You know.

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just booked my first flight with points on

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 2>my new card, which was great. But again, I don't

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 2>want to like over what do you call it.

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Over stimulate, overgive, overcare.

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to give the wrong impression that credit

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 2>cards are great because you can get points. No, like,

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 2>you should not be shopping for points because your shop

0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:53.319
<v Speaker 2>you're spending money to save money. Like that's stupid, it's dumb,

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 2>So don't you use it that way. And I think

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like you know yourself pretty well and you will.

0:48:57.920 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 2>You'll feel it when you start getting a relapse. I

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 2>mean it'll be easy to feel because you'll look at

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 2>your statement at the end of the month and you

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 2>don't have enough cash to pay it off. Yeah, if

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:06.919
<v Speaker 2>that happens, then I think it's time to pull back.

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I agreed, and.

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Do what Tip said and just charge some one little

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 2>account to it every month and you'll be building your

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:14.240
<v Speaker 2>credit and using it.

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be wort for you, exactly, And just leave

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that card home like literally, you don't have to take

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>it out, Like Okay, I still have this card, but

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not technically like swiping.

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 2>If she's as bad as I was, and she has

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 2>her numbers memorized.

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>You know what somebody did that I thought was really clever,

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>who was like a shop ahoulic. She posted in the

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>group she said, you know what, I called my credit

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 1>card companies and told them I misplaced my cards. So

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:40.839
<v Speaker 1>that way she could start to like well misplace her

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>card so she could do what I said. I said,

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, have your Netflix or some inexpensive bill charged

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 1>to your card. But she had her card numbers memorized,

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 1>so that's how she kind of was able to kind

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>of start from scratch, like getting rid of those memorized

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:55.360
<v Speaker 1>cards to get a new one.

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh they get a new number. Oh if they

0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:58.879
<v Speaker 2>would just send her a new card, the mets.

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get it, I mean, and then she could

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 1>leave it home and then you know, like automatically charge

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:06.319
<v Speaker 1>something inexpensive tool but not worrying like, oh, I have

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:08.399
<v Speaker 1>my card number memorized because this is a new card

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and new number.

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It really is like an addiction. It is alcoholics

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 2>hide bottle of the gin. We know our credit card

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 2>numbers by.

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<v Speaker 1>Heart, so I think we should slide on into some

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>wins or book suggestions. What's say you?

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.839
<v Speaker 2>I have a win. I just finished reading a good book.

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:26.839
<v Speaker 2>But I'll do a win this week.

0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay?

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Cool? So my win is my fa FA Faith director

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:37.000
<v Speaker 2>of dujor Eva du Verne. So remember I talked about

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:39.360
<v Speaker 2>how she was directing the new Queen Sugar series for

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:42.360
<v Speaker 2>the own network. Well, while she was doing that, she

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 2>just happened to have time to be filming a surprise

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 2>documentary about incarceration the United States, like just in her

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 2>free time, you know, like on her lunch break. And

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 2>not only that, but this is this documentary about incarceration

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 2>in America. It's called The Thirteenth. Go online, google it.

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:02.359
<v Speaker 2>It's opening. It's opening the New York Film Festival, which

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 2>will make it the first documentary to ever open the

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.760
<v Speaker 2>film festival. And she'll be the first black woman director

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 2>to ever open the film festival. No big deal. So

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 2>shout out to Ava for I mean, you know, she

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't have to do that. She could have been catching

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 2>her checks from Selma all this time, and from her

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Barbie Doll yep all this time, and her Oprah checks

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:23.879
<v Speaker 2>like she was. Okay, but I think she went out

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 2>every way to direct this film, and the fact that

0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it was done by a woman and a black woman

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.839
<v Speaker 2>at that just awesome. So I can't wait to check

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 2>that documentary out in September.

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.359
<v Speaker 1>That's just awesome. You know. I when I was at

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<v Speaker 1>Essence my videographers with me. He really wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>a filmmaker, and I think we're backstage, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the concert, at the Essence Fest concert, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was taping and he saw her and he was like, Tivity,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I just saw Ava Duvinet. I said

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<v Speaker 1>you should talk to her, and he did, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he came back, he was like, oh my god. She

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<v Speaker 1>was so nice. I told her that I'm a budding

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<v Speaker 1>filmmaker and I love her work, and she told me,

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<v Speaker 1>email me your stuff and I'll give you an honest critique.

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<v Speaker 1>How nice is that? And how you know she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>She could have just been like okay, taken the comment

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<v Speaker 1>and taken the compliment and kept it moving. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like, oh, And I could just tell

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<v Speaker 1>that he was like is this for her life? And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember getting on him. I'm like, make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>email her, like when do you like people don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people are busy, and so for her to

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<v Speaker 1>say that to you, you know, I would not take

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<v Speaker 1>that lightly. And I think he sent her his stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I just wanted to kind of throw in

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<v Speaker 1>there that she's also.

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<v Speaker 2>Because she gets it probably yup, you know, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>obviously but not spoken about it. She gets how some

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<v Speaker 2>people just aren't they don't have time for you. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people and some people need more help than

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<v Speaker 2>others getting their work noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I was proud of him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought she's so nice. So my I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do a win. Instead, I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a book suggestion. So this is actually a stolen book

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<v Speaker 1>suggestin from one of my favorite people on social media, Lovey.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm awesomely Lovey. If you're not reading her blog, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not reading.

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<v Speaker 2>So crazy, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're Facebook friends, so you know, I feel special

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<v Speaker 1>And even though she's had five thousand Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Friends, have I not asked her yet when you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have her on the podcast because you keep talking

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<v Speaker 2>about your best friends and I'm like, prove it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say we're your Facebook friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no, we're cool, but like no, you're right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask her. Maybe that's just want to need.

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<v Speaker 2>You to work that connection a little bit. She would

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<v Speaker 2>come on, I mean, she might take our job from

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<v Speaker 2>us because people might like her someone like she's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>She is hilarious. No, so she she posted. She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody you know is always asking kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like what I'm reading. And she was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>always reading something super serious. I'm reading kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a fun summer book. And I was like, let me

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<v Speaker 1>check this book out. It had good ratings on Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>and actually was really good. I read it. I took

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<v Speaker 1>it with me. I think I was in we were

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<v Speaker 1>in California. Whenever I travel, I like to bring a

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<v Speaker 1>book because on the flight I like to read on

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<v Speaker 1>my Kindle.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, what is the book called?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry?

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<v Speaker 2>And I love the ending in the plot here and

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<v Speaker 2>that the characters. I'm like, what is that called.

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<v Speaker 1>The book is called The Perfect Fine by Tia Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it's not like, you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fun summer read. It's not a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna change your your life from this book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just something fun life. But it's well written and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's a good, like fun, girly read. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about a woman who used to be like in the

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<v Speaker 1>fashion industry, like the top of her game. She and

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<v Speaker 1>her fiance would ever break up. She kind of takes

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<v Speaker 1>a break and comes back and try to rebuild her life,

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<v Speaker 1>falls in love with some young boy. But it's good

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<v Speaker 1>and so I suggest if you're looking for a fun

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<v Speaker 1>summer read for when you're sitting at a flight on

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<v Speaker 1>a flight or you're just chilling on the beach, the

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect Find by Tia Williams. I think it's a good book.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have any book suggestions, I'm always looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't just read fun summer reads. Actually, like one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite authors is Oh my goodness, I'm Malcolm Gladwell.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like serious books, I like fun books. I

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<v Speaker 1>like romance novels. I'm actually pretty widely read as far

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<v Speaker 1>as like what I like. It all depends on my mood.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, if you've got him, I know, right

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to be like, oh, that girl, she's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those girls. Like no, I read everything I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how to read well.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Malcolm glad Well, let's do a podcast plug

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<v Speaker 2>because after you download our podcast, of course, you should

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<v Speaker 2>definitely check out Malcolm Gladwell's new podcast called The Revisionist

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard it yet?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Or The Revisionist Theory. It's really it's really good, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's only every week, so it's not a ton like.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only three or four episodes so far, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>easy to catch up. But the first he goes, he

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<v Speaker 2>takes widely accepted ideas and turns him on their head.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first episode he talks about how America is

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<v Speaker 2>the richest country and yet it is so hard for

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<v Speaker 2>a low income person of color, young man of color

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<v Speaker 2>to get into a great school. And he goes and

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<v Speaker 2>talks to this one kid who's just oh, his whole life,

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<v Speaker 2>like his mother was an addict, you know, He's come

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<v Speaker 2>from a poor community city in Los Angeles and he

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<v Speaker 2>needed like and he got to the ivy leagues or

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<v Speaker 2>he got to a great private school, but he needed

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<v Speaker 2>like serious intervention from very wealthy people to get him there.

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<v Speaker 2>And he just sort of like talks about how unfair

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<v Speaker 2>it is and it's it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So I recommend, okay, no, and I love that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I like about Knka Glad was that, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>he clearly has this like linear not even linear, but

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<v Speaker 1>this scientific mind. But he applies the scientific mind and

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<v Speaker 1>principles to like just every day ideas. So it makes

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<v Speaker 1>something that like would normally be boring or whatever, he

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<v Speaker 1>makes it so interesting. So yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, guys, I guess that's all we have for

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<v Speaker 2>you this week.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a lot, though it was a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for the summertime. We came out all guns

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<v Speaker 2>blazed him. Wait, that's a bad analogy. We came out

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<v Speaker 2>all cylinders. But no, mister Lee. Well, if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have any questions or comments, email us at Brown Ambition

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast at gmail dot.

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<v Speaker 1>Com, tweet us at the VA Podcast, and we're on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes man, all right, you guys take care,