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Speaker 1: You're always going to be the one that gets it.

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Speaker 2: You're always going to get the overblown store every.

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Speaker 3: Time, every time. And like I said, I was a

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Speaker 4: For months before this happens.

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Speaker 3: Like like at the end of the day, if it

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Speaker 3: happened in Miami, DC, New York, LA, you never hear

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Speaker 3: that's the whole thing about it is normal. People do

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Speaker 3: it all the time and nobody says anything. But because

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Speaker 3: it's young athlete, millionaires.

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Speaker 4: You it was you, Because it was you, just saying

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Speaker 4: just keep it real.

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Speaker 1: It's because it was you.

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Speaker 5: They taxed you though.

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Speaker 3: They took my four game checks as I remember, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: they taxed me pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Was worth it?

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Speaker 6: Uh yes, all right, I'm back.

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Speaker 5: Some up.

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Speaker 2: One game presents conversations with a legend, and this one

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Speaker 1: This dude is a legend.

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Speaker 2: H He had a Thanksgiving party that that was legendary

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Speaker 2: and it was well it was something that rhymes with locksgiving.

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Speaker 1: It was team bonding, all right.

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Speaker 2: This this next guest is someone special to me, obviously,

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Speaker 2: came in during my time in Washington, was my teammate,

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Speaker 2: was a dope teammate, ended up leaving Washington to go

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Speaker 5: Back, UH fresh smooth.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about when you were in Washington and when

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Speaker 1: You talk about the corner. So it's a great segue.

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Speaker 1: You came in.

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Speaker 2: There's no way you should have slid to us in

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Speaker 2: the second round. But but you know, as fate would

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Speaker 2: have it, you did. And you came in the year

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Speaker 4: His locker, took I took it he didn't need.

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Speaker 2: You took the locker, took took the shoes, took the

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Speaker 1: And you came in and you fit. You fit right in.

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Speaker 2: So you and that draft, that litter class, that draft

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Speaker 5: Were a guy. You were a guy.

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Speaker 2: Talk about what that that first experience coming into the league.

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Speaker 5: You know what was that like for you?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, like said, I slid in the draft.

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Speaker 3: And you know anytime you slid, and you slide in

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Speaker 3: the draft, you always looking at the person that's drafted

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Speaker 3: But you know what I was like that that was

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Speaker 3: it came different, like I was supposed to be here,

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Speaker 3: Like no matter how it happened, take me first and

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Speaker 4: I was supposed to be here.

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Speaker 3: But then when I got here with Marty Schottenheim, you know,

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Speaker 3: I asked Marty, like, why would you draft me? Why

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Speaker 3: You got Champ Bailey future Hall of Fame, And why

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Speaker 3: I was just blown away by it. I was like,

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of talent in that locker room.

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Speaker 2: They put now, they put you in park Place, uh boardwalk.

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Speaker 2: You know with your locker you was you was in

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Speaker 2: the high society right Rod was a high draft pick,

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Speaker 5: You were you.

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Speaker 1: You was where we was at.

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Speaker 2: You was where where the big mansions and the big

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Speaker 2: big rides and the whips were what what was that like?

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Speaker 1: Cause I mean you were you and come in and

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Speaker 3: Well, I told people at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: You got realize Bruce Smith, the all time sackmaster's city

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Speaker 3: like I told you, but my team's in Washington. If

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Speaker 3: we get to you, yeah, like if I have, I got,

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Speaker 3: I got Darrin Green right there, Like it's everybody. If

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Speaker 3: we was never out of games.

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Speaker 3: And then just being around with that Football Roy team,

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Speaker 3: like you gotta realize, Sam Shade more Carrier, all these

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Speaker 4: I was humbled.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that, but I forget you.

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Speaker 5: You was you? Was you? Was ready?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I was ready to I was ready to

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Speaker 3: play football. But I think the realization of that one percent,

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Speaker 3: like when you're play in the NFL. You bought it

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Speaker 2: Was, all right, all right? For those out there that

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Speaker 2: don't know what pe Valley is, just look it up,

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Speaker 2: mean Pee Valley, Viking, Viking boat, Viking boat, pe Valley.

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Speaker 2: I mean you was representing the ship in minnesot Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hey, but you know what, LaVar, Let's be honest. You

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Speaker 3: a history guy. You love history. I know this about you.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I'm a fan.

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Speaker 5: I'm a fan.

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Speaker 4: Check this out. Viken's been doing this since the early

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Speaker 3: Like everything we did on now they've been doing since

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Speaker 1: Did you did you really have?

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Speaker 4: Listen, this is what happened to have a double purple?

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: I was walking.

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Speaker 1: give me the exclusive?

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Speaker 5: Here?

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Speaker 1: What really happened?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: And this is this is open form, so you ain't

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Speaker 1: All right, give me the exclusive of the boat ride.

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Speaker 3: I was literally just walking, can pass? I know what

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Speaker 3: you're bringing up? The whipping of mass destruction. I was

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Speaker 4: I said, who am I to deny you?

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Speaker 6: Who am I?

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Speaker 5: I'm know one?

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Speaker 2: I take it, take it, take the weapon.

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Speaker 4: It's like the Lord of the rings. Once you had

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Speaker 4: I let it happen, little b I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: And then what I didn't know that I understand I

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Speaker 3: We end up having two first rounds Troy Williamson and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, ah, this unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Brian McKenny, Brian McKenny, and that's not that's a horror.

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Speaker 2: That is a horrible combination Fred Smooth and Brian McKinny.

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Speaker 1: That's a it's a horrible That is a horror.

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Speaker 2: That is a horrible recipe for mass destruction weapons.

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Speaker 5: All over the place.

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Speaker 4: Listen, party animals.

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Speaker 3: Like I thought we partied in DC, but when I

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Speaker 4: They had a whole another level.

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Speaker 3: Like nobody ever brings up the Twin Cities when it

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Speaker 3: comes to places to visit. I placed this Ferd I'm

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Speaker 3: here to tell you the home of ten thousand Lakes.

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Speaker 3: Please take a visit there. It's a fun place to visit.

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Speaker 1: How many lakes did y'all hit? Out of the ten.

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Speaker 3: Thousand, I think I went nine thousand, one hundred.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think I did.

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Speaker 2: What was there anything else that happened on the boat?

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Speaker 1: Can you clear up anything else the boat?

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Speaker 4: Let's be honest. It was it was.

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Speaker 2: It was overrated it And that's what I want. That's

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Speaker 2: what I want to know. That's because that's that's that's

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Speaker 2: what happened. People blow stories up, they sensationalize the stories,

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Speaker 2: and then it goes from there boom. And you, because

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Speaker 3: Every time. And like I said, I was the new guy.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't there but three months, for months before happens

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Speaker 4: Uh. If it happened in Miami, d C. New York,

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Speaker 3: Nobody somebody here, everybody a floating bachelor party.

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Speaker 4: Like that's the whole thing about it.

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Speaker 3: Is normal people do it all the time and nobody

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Speaker 5: It was you.

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Speaker 1: It was you. Yeah, because it was you, just say

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Speaker 1: just keep it real. It's because it was you.

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Speaker 3: The mouth of the South. Sometimes you talk your way

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Speaker 3: into stuff, and anytime it's some fun, exaggerated stuff, they

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Speaker 3: gonna look at me and get what.

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Speaker 4: I laughed it off.

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Speaker 3: Then I laugh it off now, and I'll never forget

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Speaker 3: having a conversation with my with my agent, Bus Cook.

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Speaker 3: He can hear it in my voice that I was

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Speaker 3: worried about it. He was like, son, don't worry about this.

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Speaker 3: Y'all didn't break no laws. They're gonna blow it up.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna make it disposal, but it's gonna make you infamous.

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Speaker 3: I understand it. They'll never forget you. They will never

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Speaker 3: forget you, So don't you worried about it. It's good

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Speaker 3: on both sides. They taxed you though, Yeah, listen, I

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Speaker 3: got fired.

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Speaker 4: Good. They serving piece on the lake, so I paid.

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Speaker 2: One hundred dollars. The NFL hit you, Yeah, the NFL

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Speaker 2: hit you. Wasn't even the law. It was the NFL.

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Speaker 5: The league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the league hitting me, and the law only gave

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Speaker 3: me one hundred dollars five.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 5: The league went a little bit above one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: They took my four game checks as I remember, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: they taxed.

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Speaker 4: Me pretty good.

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Speaker 5: What's worth it?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Put it like this.

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Speaker 3: The fund was the boat party was the first day,

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Speaker 3: like we had three days.

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Speaker 5: Who'd you learn that from? Who did you learn that from?

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Speaker 5: Did you learn that from me? You ain't never party

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Speaker 5: with me? Though?

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Speaker 4: Yeah I did.

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Speaker 3: I came up your house many times and party with you.

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Speaker 3: I parted with you many a time. I understand.

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Speaker 5: Listen, I don't remember I got so.

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Speaker 4: That's what a party is. If you remember a party

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Speaker 4: wasn't fun?

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Speaker 5: That is very true. I am.

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Speaker 2: I am a very very calm, subtle older man. Now

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Speaker 2: you know, I got my grades. I like to rock

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Speaker 2: my grades.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: Up over there, I see you the gray Wolves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know, you know you got to show

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Speaker 2: that that uh mature, that growth that you gotta show

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Speaker 2: that growth.

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Speaker 5: Brother, than know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: When I'm still I'm still over here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've always been.

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Speaker 4: You know what I got diagnosed?

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Speaker 3: Try to tell everybody is I got diagnosed with third

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Speaker 3: degree Benjamin Button's disease, and you know that that's where

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Speaker 3: I'm at.

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Speaker 5: That's wrong with you, that's wrong, right, all right, I'm in.

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Speaker 1: You're on stage four, You're in the final phases of Benjamin.

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Speaker 4: But I'm going back to be a baby.