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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Battleground Podcast. Today, we are

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Speaker 1: joined by Maureen Bannon, CEO of the mega successful show

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Speaker 1: War Room with Steve Bannon. Maureen's a West Point graduate

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Speaker 1: and Iraq war veteran. She has dedicated her life to

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Speaker 1: fighting for our country. As John Adams, one of our

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Speaker 1: founding fathers, once said, Posterity, you will never know how

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Speaker 1: much it costs the present generation to preserve your freedom.

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Speaker 1: I hope you will make good use of it. Maureen

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Speaker 1: knows firsthand the cost of fighting for our freedom, both

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Speaker 1: at home and abroad. She pushed through the pain and

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Speaker 1: challenges of West Point, she deployed to Iraq, and she

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Speaker 1: returned home to continue fighting for America. We'll be discussing

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Speaker 1: Maureen's experience It's at West Point, her deployment to Iraq,

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Speaker 1: and how it shaped her views on foreign policy, how

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Speaker 1: she became essentially America First. We'll also talk about the

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Speaker 1: pain of watching her father be indicted and how she

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Speaker 1: found the strength to persevere. Join us in this important conversation,

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Speaker 1: and let us all remember that it is our duty

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Speaker 1: as Americans to fight for freedom and make sure that

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Speaker 1: our children inherit a nation that is better than one

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Speaker 1: we had, you know, without further ado, I hope that

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Speaker 1: you enjoy my conversation with Maureen Bannon. Hey, Maureen Bannon,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. It's awesome to have you here.

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Speaker 1: And my first question is, of course, what do I

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Speaker 1: call you? Should I call you Captain Bannon or should

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Speaker 1: I call you little Honey Badger or Minie Bannon? Like

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Speaker 1: what are you most comfortable with?

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Speaker 2: You can call me anything. I've never heard little honey

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Speaker 2: Badger though it's I've been called baby Honey Badger, but

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Speaker 2: I like little honey Badger.

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Speaker 1: Little. It has to be it has to be l

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I still get called Captain Bannon on

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Speaker 2: the show. It's funny. That's how people seem to recognize me.

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Speaker 2: Like in a restaurant here in Virginia, someone yelled across

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Speaker 2: the restaurant Captain Bannon, and I just, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: had this shocked look on my face because it's.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're well, you're famous now, you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm in a very blue area of Virginia currently, So

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Speaker 2: I was just like, uh, oh, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, exactly, Like like people will come up to

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Speaker 1: And I'll be like, it depends what your political beliefs are, Like.

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Speaker 2: Why do you want to know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So like so, and I imagine, like one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I always found amazing about war Room. Now,

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Speaker 1: of course you know your Maureen ban and you're Steve

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Speaker 1: Bannon's daughter. Who is Steve Bannon? Ninety nine point nine

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Speaker 1: and they know exactly who your dad is. But now

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Speaker 1: you're you're working for war Room. And I used to

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Speaker 1: go on war Room like way back in the beginning

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Speaker 1: when he just started that show. And now it's blown

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Speaker 1: up into this, like I mean, it's grown like Gangbusters.

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Speaker 1: It's blown up into this hugely successful, Well what's a

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Speaker 1: And you know, when I was on the campaign trail,

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Speaker 1: both for the House and the Senate, almost everywhere I

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Speaker 1: you on war Room. Keep going on war Room. See

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Speaker 1: if you can get Bannon to come to one of

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Speaker 1: my events, you know, And it's amazing to me, Maureen,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with you. So originally it has

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Speaker 2: so it has in reference by mainstream media, and I

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Speaker 2: But they want the information. And I think that it

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Speaker 2: We're not just throwing information at you to throw information

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Speaker 1: It's so funny because when I was running for Congress,

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Speaker 1: But primarily what we were was a grassroots groundswell campaign.

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Speaker 1: What we did was exactly what you do as a show.

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Speaker 1: We would just tell people like, not only do you

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Speaker 1: need to be involved, we want you involved, and we'll

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Speaker 1: Now your show's big enough to have a CEO. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: But I came into contact with your dad that way

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Speaker 1: when I start when I found out that Acts seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: And I said, well, this is why it's unconstitutional, Like

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Speaker 1: like okay, so war Reoposi, there's what you can do.

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Speaker 1: There's something to the show. And Maureen, this was way

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Speaker 2: when we say like call your representatives, we'll have POSSE

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you mentioned a term force multiplier, and thus

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Speaker 1: far we've talked about war room, talked about your dad,

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Speaker 1: but force multipliers, obviously it's a military term. You were

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Speaker 1: decide that joining the military, specifically the Army was the

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Speaker 2: And it actually got recruited by all three major service academies,

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's amazing. So many things are amazing

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Speaker 1: what were juniors? Cows? Cows, Yeah, cows and firsties. I

433
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Speaker 1: go and I present to them. So I got an

434
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Speaker 1: opportunity to see West Point cadets. And by the way,

435
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: like I'm just joking, like they're amazing, uh amazing and

436
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: highly motivated. They give you faith in our country, in

437
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Speaker 1: the future of our country, at least when I was there.

438
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Speaker 1: And I guess, like, so you're you're a first d Like,

439
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: what what was your branch? You finally get your branch.

440
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Speaker 1: What did you branch in the army?

441
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Speaker 2: So at the time, it was quartermaster, but then for

442
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: the logistics branches, once you go to your captain's career course,

443
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: you morphed into or become a logistics officer, so you

444
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: could command any one of the logistics branch type of companies.

445
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: But I branched out of West Point quartermaster. Ironically enough,

446
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: I never served in a quartermaster position, as a as

447
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: a lieutenant, as a second lieutenant, first lieutenant. I was

448
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: either I was a maintenance platoon leader, so an ordnance position,

449
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: and then staff positions. I was slotted whatever whatever unit

450
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Speaker 2: it was. Were those branches?

451
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Speaker 1: What was your first duty assignment? Maureen Fort Campbell, oh nice,

452
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Speaker 1: and I loved it. I loved everyone loved Everyone loves

453
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: one hundred and first Airborne, everybody loves first cam for Campbell.

454
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Speaker 2: And I was. I love country music, so being so

455
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: close to Nashville was amazing. And I was with the

456
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Speaker 2: three two six engineer battalions, so that was an interesting

457
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Speaker 2: first duty station and I deployed with them. It being

458
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Speaker 2: with different units, like not being part of the Sustainment

459
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Speaker 2: Brigade is my first duty station. It kind of opened

460
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: my eyes to what the different branches, other branches did.

461
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Speaker 2: So yes, I was when I got to Campbell. My

462
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: unit had left for Iraq in January and I got there,

463
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Speaker 2: I signed and I want to say, like February fourth,

464
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: and they said, oh, you'll just be on rear D

465
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Speaker 2: and then they needed more people over there, so I

466
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: ended up deploying in April. But and I was in

467
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Speaker 2: the S four shop when I was deployed, and and

468
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Speaker 2: I took over a platoon when we were leaving Iraq.

469
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Speaker 2: But it kind of opened my eyes to see I mean,

470
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Speaker 2: I went out on missions with some of the companies

471
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Speaker 2: that were engineer companies while I was deployed, and it

472
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: opened my eyes to see exactly what they do, not

473
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Speaker 2: only state side, but also in a combat environment or

474
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Speaker 2: deployed environment.

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Speaker 1: What what year did you deploy to Iraq?

476
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Speaker 2: To twenty eleven? So I deployed the end of April

477
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Speaker 2: of eleven, and then we were supposed they were supposed

478
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Speaker 2: to be there from January to January, but we came

479
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: back in November.

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Speaker 1: How'd your how'd your parents feel about your deployment to Iraq?

481
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Speaker 2: I mean, they they knew that it was something and

482
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Speaker 2: at last point, you trained because we came in in

483
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Speaker 2: a time of war, so you knew you were going

484
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: to deploy at some point. So to me, I was

485
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: just like, Okay, this is part of the job, Like

486
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: this is what. I knew this when I when I

487
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: went to West Point. I knew this when I commissioned.

488
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Speaker 2: And my parents didn't really talk about I mean, we

489
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: talked about, which was a hard conversation that I had

490
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: to have with them, what I would want to happen

491
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Speaker 2: if something were to happen to me while it was

492
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Speaker 2: a ploy.

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Speaker 1: It's an unbelievably hard conversation. I've had it as well,

494
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Speaker 1: but it's one that you have to have.

495
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Speaker 2: And I didn't even think about having that conversation. And actually,

496
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Speaker 2: when we were doing the deployment SRP, like going through

497
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: the different stops before you deploy, someone said, you know,

498
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Speaker 2: I had a soldier who who who was killed and

499
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Speaker 2: his parents were divorced, and he didn't have that conversation

500
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Speaker 2: with them, and he also didn't put it into writing

501
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Speaker 2: into a will. So then the parents, I mean, this

502
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: happened years prior and the parents were still arguing about

503
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: where to bury their child. And my parents are divorced.

504
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: I don't think that they would ever argue about that,

505
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Speaker 2: but I didn't want to put them into that position. Yeah,

506
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: I just I just I said, this is these are

507
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: my desires if something were to happen to me while

508
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: I was deployed, this is what I want. And that

509
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: was probably the hardest conversation I've ever had with them

510
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: because you could just see it on their faces, like

511
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Speaker 2: that that was a possibility that it could just leaving

512
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Speaker 2: on a deployment, that could happen. So they didn't really

513
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Speaker 2: want to talk about much about the deployt They would

514
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Speaker 2: just ask me how I'm doing, Like when I would

515
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Speaker 2: when I was able to talk to them while I

516
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Speaker 2: was deployed, but they didn't really want to talk to

517
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Speaker 2: me about how they were feeling about me deployed. And

518
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: then I actually heard an interview that my dad did

519
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: with John Fredericks when they when he was talking about,

520
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: you know, sending America's sons and daughters over to Ukraine

521
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: and Russia and how that this is what the regime,

522
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: this current regime wants basically, And you know, parents don't

523
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Speaker 2: know what it's like to sit there and pray every

524
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Speaker 2: night that their child comes home in one piece and

525
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: not in a transfer case. So that kind of, honestly,

526
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: that really hit me hard because I didn't think about

527
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: how they were feeling each night that I was deployed,

528
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: like thinking, oh, please let my daughter when I wake

529
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Speaker 2: up in the morning, please let her still be alive.

530
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Speaker 2: So and I only went to Iraq once. I can't

531
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Speaker 2: imagine had I deployed numerous times, Like whenever Joe cans

532
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Speaker 2: on and he talks about his eleven Colm deployments. I

533
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: could not imagine as a parent what that would do

534
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Speaker 2: to you, knowing that your child is in harm's way

535
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Speaker 2: multiple times.

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Speaker 1: I I will say I didn't when I was in Afghanistan,

537
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize At the time, when I was in combat,

538
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much that experience was affecting my parents.

539
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Speaker 1: And as applatoon leader in combat, you know, I didn't

540
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Speaker 1: have the kind of relationship with my company commander where

541
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Speaker 1: I could vent to him, and I sure as hell

542
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: never griped down, right, So I wasn't going to do

543
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: that with my troops or my noncommission officers, because they

544
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: needed to see me as somebody who could handle the

545
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Speaker 1: worst that the enemy has but endure and continue to lead.

546
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Speaker 1: And so I would vent to my dad and like,

547
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Speaker 1: I know, you're probably thinking, like what, dude, what are

548
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: you crazy? Like that's crazy, you don't do that. But

549
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: at the time, I wasn't thinking clearly, and I didn't

550
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: realize just how deeply that was affecting my father. And

551
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Speaker 1: I mean really really, I mean back then, like I'm

552
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Speaker 1: a little older than you, I was in Afghanistan in

553
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Speaker 1: two thousand and six, but back then, like we didn't

554
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Speaker 1: have like internet where things were abb. We had a

555
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Speaker 1: couple of phones that we'd use in our MWR like

556
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Speaker 1: for those watching listening Morale Welfare Recreation where we call home,

557
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Speaker 1: but we also had like AOL instant messenger, and as

558
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Speaker 1: an officer, I had Internet in my room for sending

559
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Speaker 1: up reports and stuff. And so my dad ended up

560
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Speaker 1: becoming almost a slave to that instant messenger bell, where

561
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Speaker 1: he'd watch my name on there, like when you're you know,

562
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Speaker 1: when you don't touch your mouse for a while and

563
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: your name goes gray. Just watch it forever, send it

564
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Speaker 1: in some messions, and that ding would come up that

565
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Speaker 1: I had messaged him. He would just like we go

566
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Speaker 1: out on week long mission cycles and that would be

567
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Speaker 1: like his existence. And I never realized it. And now

568
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Speaker 1: I'm a parent and I've got you know, a thirteen

569
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Speaker 1: year old, and you talked about watching nine to eleven

570
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Speaker 1: when you were thirteen and having the presence of mind

571
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Speaker 1: to say, like, oh my god, like never again. I'm

572
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Speaker 1: going to fight for my country to make sure that

573
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Speaker 1: never happens again. When you say that, it hits close

574
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Speaker 1: to home because I have a fifteen year old, and

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Speaker 1: I have a thirteen year old, and I've also got

576
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Speaker 1: ones younger than that. But all of this experience, Maureene,

577
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Speaker 1: has shaped my perception in perspective on American foreign policy

578
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: as well. You talking about your father and how he

579
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Speaker 1: talks John Fredericks about Ukraine. The way I try to

580
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: frame this with Americans is like, if is Ukraine so

581
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Speaker 1: important to you that you're willing to send your own

582
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: son or daughter to fight, bleed and die for that country.

583
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Speaker 1: If the answer is no, and I'm willing to bet

584
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: that it is, then it's not that important, you know.

585
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: And that's the prism through which we should look at

586
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: these monumental decisions whether or not to send Americans to war.

587
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: But my problem is is this is also a problem

588
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: with Republicans and Democrats, is they don't look at it

589
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: like that. And it's precisely because many of them, not

590
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: all of them, but many of them have never experienced

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00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: what it's like to go to war themselves or have

592
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: a child in the fight.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, and you know, what you experienced

594
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 2: and what I experience are completely different. So even people

595
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: that have served that are in Congress right now, they

596
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: all have different experiences. Because especially, I mean even people

597
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: that want to Iraq two years earlier have a different

598
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: experience because it was Operation New Dawn when I went,

599
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: so technically it wasn't any combat. I mean, we still

600
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: had casualties during that time, but it's just like you

601
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: were saying. I believe that people in positions of power

602
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: that continue to vote to send America's sons and daughters

603
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: to war have never had to experience it because or

604
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: had as a actually as a person deployed or in

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00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: the military, or as a parent having your child go

606
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: over Because if you had, you wouldn't You wouldn't want

607
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: to put wouldn't want to put someone else in that

608
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: same position that you were in. You you've experienced it,

609
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to for something that is not our fight.

610
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: Ukraine and Russia is not our fight. You to do

611
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: another endless war. I mean twenty years in Afghanistan and

612
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 2: look at how we withdrew out of Afghanistan.

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00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: What's so upsetting to me about all this is that

614
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: they're still Americans trapped in Afghanistan. Blinkoln testified on Capitol

615
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: Hill that there are still over one hundred Americans in Afghanistan,

616
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Speaker 1: and yet both Republicans and Democrats are clamoring for another

617
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Speaker 1: war in Ukraine before we even got Americans out of

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Speaker 1: the last war. To me, because that war, I look, Maureene,

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Speaker 1: I loved serving my country. I don't regret it for

620
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Speaker 1: a second. I'm not a victim. I've volunteered for it,

621
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Speaker 1: and I do it again in a second. And I

622
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: know you feel the same way. I could just tell

623
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: by talking to you. And if there were ever a

624
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: moment that this country came under attack or needed Americans

625
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: to defend it, I'd be at first in the line

626
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: to do it. But it's our job, as it's our

627
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: job as leaders, Maureene, to say, wait a second, this

628
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: isn't worth American blood. And I'm not going to be

629
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: frivolous with that decision or careless with that decision.

630
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And if they feel that strongly about

631
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: Ukraine and Russia, like you said, how about we get

632
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: the Americans out of Afghanistan first? That should be the priority.

633
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: We just literally packed up in the middle of the

634
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: night and left and then left Americans and we're like, oh,

635
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: we gave you the option to get out of here,

636
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: but you chose not to like this administration. And I

637
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean that leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

638
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: Even saying that the regime is all about not no accountability.

639
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: They are so willing to pass the buck off to

640
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: someone else and not hold anyone in a senior leadership

641
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: position accountable? Why is General Millie still in that position

642
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: that botch withdrawal out of Afghanistan. I'm sorry, you should

643
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: be gone from your job. You're not good at your position.

644
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: You're not a good leader. You should be done like retirement.

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00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: You're not Jae I agree. I mean that's him too.

646
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Speaker 1: Austin just said the other day on Capitol Hill he

647
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: has no regrets about the withdrawal of Afghanistan. I'm like,

648
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Speaker 1: how can anyone, how can any leader be so aloof

649
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: and careless with their words to say something like that?

650
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: Because he wasn't me. It was someone lower than me

651
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: that made this decision. I just so they should be

652
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: held accountable for it. And he also was in charge

653
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 2: of the withdrawal out of Afghanistan. Was he a sleep

654
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: when we or not Afghanistan? I'm sorry Iraq? Was he

655
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: a sleep when we did the withdrawal out of Iraq?

656
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: I was part of that. And oh wait, I know

657
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: MSNBC came out, you know on March nineteenth and twentieth

658
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: was the twenty year anniversary of Shaka and aw So

659
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: the invasion of Iraq. The nineteenth was the air game,

660
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: twentieth was the ground game and twenty years and MSNBC says, oh,

661
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: we don't have we don't have American troops in Iraq

662
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: right now, there's none. That's a lie. That is a lie.

663
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Speaker 2: And the fact that Austin's was in charge of the

664
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Speaker 2: withdrawal and we're back in there, you think that maybe

665
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: had you been awake for that, you would have learned like, well,

666
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: this didn't work so well, you know, we did this well,

667
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 2: but we didn't do this well. No, didn't take any

668
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: lessons learned in Iraq over to Afghanistan. They just packed

669
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 2: up and I'm like, oh, good luck, hope you make

670
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Speaker 2: it out.

671
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Speaker 1: And that's my problem. I mean, so clearly you fought

672
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Speaker 1: for you put on the uniform, you boots, rifle, went

673
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: to war for this country. And now now that you're

674
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: out of the military. Right, so first of all, how

675
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: did you come to make that decision? Like, because not

676
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: only are you fight it, you fought for the you

677
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: walk the walk, You fought in combat for this country.

678
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: Clearly you're interested in politics. You're on war room. You're

679
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: right there with your dad fighting for the culture and

680
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: the future of this country in the political arena as well.

681
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Speaker 1: So Maureene tell me about that transition and what was

682
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Speaker 1: the catalyst that helped you make the decision to transition

683
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Speaker 1: out of the military.

684
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: So I actually started thinking about getting out in twenty

685
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: seventeen command. I was an AT commander because I had

686
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: had back surgery due to something that happened earlier in

687
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: my time in service and then made worse on my

688
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: deployment and at my duty station prior to when I

689
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: was in command. They overlooked me for command because of

690
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: my back surgery. Even though I was basically I was

691
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: at ninety five percent. They overlooked me because I had

692
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Speaker 2: back surgery. So I ended up being an AT commander,

693
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Speaker 2: and I don't regret that at all because I helped

694
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Speaker 2: shape future supply clerks of the Army and logistics personnel.

695
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Speaker 1: Awesome, It's awesome. I love it.

696
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: I I was in command actually when my dad became

697
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: Trump's campaign CEO and chief strategist, and my first command

698
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: team super supportive. We might not have agreed politically, but

699
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 2: they were very supportive of me supporting my dad, and

700
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: there was a change of command during that process or

701
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: during that time when I was in command with my

702
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: battalion and brigade commander and both new battalion and brigade

703
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: commanders were not as supportive and thought that I was

704
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: entitled or that I felt like I should be treated

705
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: differently because of who my dad was, which was the

706
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: furthest thing from the case. I'm like, Okay, that is

707
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 2: my dad, this is my job, that's that's my dad.

708
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: Like kept them to separate things because you don't talk

709
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: about your political views in the military, or at least

710
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 2: we didn't when we were in. Now they're totally okay

711
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: unless you support Trump and then they're coming after you.

712
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: Or yeah, unless you're unless you're a conservative, I mean,

713
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: unless you're a conservative. I just saw this video and

714
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's real, but this uh

715
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: staff sergeant, drill sergeant something she was talking about like

716
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: how it's the guns and how we need to like

717
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: disarm all Americans. Well, I mean, obviously, clearly it's not

718
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: the guns. And I reject the notion that somehow society

719
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: is guilty just because a criminal commits a crime. But

720
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Speaker 1: that's a whole nother story for a whole other podcast.

721
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: But but so you so now you're being you feel like,

722
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what's the right word. More mean like

723
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: you feel like you're being singled out for being Steve

724
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: Bannon's daughter a little bit, or treated treated differently.

725
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: Differently and not.

726
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: Not in a good way. Yeah, differently, but not in

727
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: a good way.

728
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Speaker 2: So I was like, you know, if this is gonna

729
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: be an Both of these officers were senior leaders within

730
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: the logistics branch, so it's not like I was not

731
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: going to see them again. Had I continued to serve.

732
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Speaker 2: So I said, you know, maybe it's time for me

733
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: for me to get out, Like once command is done,

734
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: maybe it's time. I did the paperwork, submitted it to

735
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: it out prior to talking to one of my mentors.

736
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 2: I talked to both parents about it, and I talked

737
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Speaker 2: after I submitted the paperwork to General Kaslyn, and he

738
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: was like, MO, what did you do? Like you have

739
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: more there's more potential in you in the military, Like

740
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: why why? So he was superintendent at the time. I

741
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: get this call.

742
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: From of West Point, So that's like what a force

743
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Speaker 1: a four star position, three star, three star, three stars,

744
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: So he's pretty high ranking general. Just so everybody everybody's tracking.

745
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: So I get this call from him a couple of

746
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: days later, g one is going to be calling you.

747
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: You need you need to pull your packet. So g

748
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: one is like the personnel for the entire for all branches.

749
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: It goes to g one, And so g one will

750
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: be calling.

751
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: You or like very very high up, very high up.

752
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: We'll be reaching out to you. You need to rec

753
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: us to pull your packet. I'm by name requesting you

754
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: to come back to West Point. So I actually I

755
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: was super close with my dad's dad. He passed away

756
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: at one hundred back in last year in twenty two.

757
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: But when I did command, I lived. My house was

758
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: thirty minutes from him, and I went over to his

759
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: house and I sat down with him at the kitchen table.

760
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: I said, you know, I'm just not sure about this assignment.

761
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: And he looked at me and said, are you kidding me?

762
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: You got by name requested. You're not giving this up

763
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: because you want to stay like around him. I was

764
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: close enough, close enough of a drive to my dad,

765
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: to my grandpa. So he said, you're not doing that.

766
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: You're good. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

767
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: You're gonna take this job. So I did, and I

768
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: worked in the athletic department pack up. But west Point,

769
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: I was actually a director of operations for volleyball and

770
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: sprint full ball for.

771
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: The last pretty awesome.

772
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: The last fourteen months.

773
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: So another lesson for people who are watching. Don't make

774
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: decisions like, don't make decisions in Hay. This sounds like

775
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: a pretty cool opportunity.

776
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: It was. I mean, once I got up there, General

777
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: Kaslyn retired within the year, so really yeah. But I

778
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: got to see West Point under General Kaslyn and then

779
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: West Point under the last superintendent they had, and who

780
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: there's a drastic change in West Point now.

781
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: But who's the superintendent now?

782
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: Well, so now I know. So it went from General

783
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: Chaslyn to General Williams, who did some drastic changes and

784
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: not in a good way. And then now it's General Gillan.

785
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 2: But he just had They had pronoun training in place

786
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: of sexual assault and sexual harassment training. So instead of

787
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: sharp training, which I know everyone in the military was like,

788
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: it would always get oh why do we have to

789
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: do this? It was important training, but you replaced it

790
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: with pronoun training. I thought once they had the change

791
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: of command from General Williams to General Gillan, that it

792
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: would change, but clearly it seems to be sticking along

793
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: this path that it took in the last two to

794
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: three years, but that assignment and West Point Branch didn't

795
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: tell me it was a year assignment. So six months

796
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: in I get this email from branch that said, we're

797
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: going You're going to come down on orders in the

798
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: next few months, and I said, oh, no, I'm not

799
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: because I had seen the way the military was going

800
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: at that point. There were signs of it. I mean,

801
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: when I was in command, we had transgender training because

802
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: they were talking about allowing transgender service members coming through

803
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 2: basic training. AIT, so they were trying to train us.

804
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: Even the senior leaders trying giving the training. They were

805
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: flipping through their binder didn't have answers. But when a

806
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: service member it was usually NCOs, would ask very legitimate questions.

807
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: Their response was, well, if you don't like it, you

808
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: can get out. That's the wrong answer, especially.

809
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Someone vaguely ridiculous.

810
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: That makes me ten plus years. You're not going to

811
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: tell them to accept something and if they don't accept it,

812
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: then they can just get out, like that's.

813
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: It, And it's completely it's completely contrary to how the

814
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: military is. Like you talked very early on in this interview,

815
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: Maureen about being broken down. But the reason why the

816
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: military does that. Not just hub it with everybody. They

817
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: break you down and to build you up into something better.

818
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: But not just an individual. You're part of a unit.

819
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: You're part of a collective. The idea that you're only

820
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: as fast as your slowest person, right, you learn to shoot, move,

821
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: and communicate together as a team. Then you go and

822
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: you fight, bleed, and you die together. And to this

823
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: bullshit with pronouns, and this focus on individual identity is

824
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: tearing our military apart, and we're gonna pay consequences for

825
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: it down the line. But it makes my blood boil

826
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Speaker 1: when I hear patriots like you, who, by the way,

827
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: by the way, volunteer to serve this country. Right, you

828
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: volunteer to serve. You come from a legacy military family,

829
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: You volunteer to serve, and you have command You have

830
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: commanders in the military that are like telling people like you,

831
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: after ten plus years of voluntary service to this country,

832
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: if you don't like it, if you don't like this

833
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: the pronoun training, you can get out. That's bullshit. That

834
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: is complete bullshit. And this country is gonna pay for

835
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: these terrible decisions someday. And it makes me sad to

836
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: say it. But it's true, Maureen, it's true.

837
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Speaker 2: Oh I agree with you. And you see even to

838
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: this day, good leaders getting out because of what has

839
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: become of our military. And even when I was in command,

840
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 2: you saw the generation that was never told no coming

841
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 2: into coming into the military, and then you have senior

842
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: leaders that are just allowing or perpetuating that to be

843
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: acceptable behavior, and that's not You're seeing what we the

844
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 2: military that we knew and loved is not the same

845
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 2: military at all. And because we're losing such great senior leaders,

846
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: it's going to take a long time to build that

847
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: military back up.

848
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: I agree. And so you make the decision, then, Maureen,

849
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: to to get out right, to say goodbye to the military,

850
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: and now what what are you up to now?

851
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: So when I got out, I had a passion actually

852
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: to be a nurse. I wanted to go to nursing

853
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: school and be a nick U nurse.

854
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: And that's.

855
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: Once again, my grandpa's kitchen table was like where all

856
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: the decisions. My dad was here. My grandpa was at

857
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: the table, So all three of us are at the table,

858
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: and my dad was like, are you sure that this

859
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: is what you want to do? Is it just a

860
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: decision that you're making, and you'll change your mind in

861
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: a couple of months. And I literally had an Excel

862
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: spreadsheet with all of the nursing schools I wanted to

863
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Speaker 2: apply to. They're like days for application the program. I

864
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Speaker 2: had done a ton of research on it. So he said, okay,

865
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Speaker 2: if that's what you if that's what you want to do, okay.

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Speaker 2: So then at the time applying, I knew I needed

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Speaker 2: to have income coming in. I couldn't not work, but

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Speaker 2: especially because going from the military, it's like, yeah, terminal

869
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Speaker 2: leave was nice, but then one that's over with, it's

870
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Speaker 2: like I need to feel like once I get up,

871
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Speaker 2: I have something to do. There's a purpose to the day,

872
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Speaker 2: not just sitting and doing stuff around the house, which

873
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Speaker 2: was nice, do not get me wrong. But so I

874
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Speaker 2: actually took a job with a flooring company doing logistics

875
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Speaker 2: for them, and they are a very liberal company, so

876
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Speaker 2: it was only supposed to be a stepping stone. I

877
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Speaker 2: ended up working there for two years. But at during

878
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Speaker 2: that time I was applying to nursing schools, and honestly,

879
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Speaker 2: my top two denied me in missions and said that

880
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Speaker 2: my undergrad GPA didn't make me a good candidate for

881
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Speaker 2: their school. I'm and by the time I'm applying, it's

882
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Speaker 2: nineteen going into twenty twenty. Like, really my undergrad GPA

883
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Speaker 2: from I graduated West Point in twenty ten, so we're

884
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Speaker 2: looking at six to twenty.

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Speaker 1: Ten and all your combat experience and command experience and

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Speaker 1: time in the military as a leader. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: it was more just your last name. It did laugh,

888
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Speaker 1: but it sounds like.

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Speaker 2: It's all the prerecs I took. I got straight a's

890
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Speaker 2: through Johns Hopkins Online, so clearly I am a decent student.

891
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: I just eighteen to twenty two. Academics weren't the priority,

892
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Speaker 2: like people's priorities changed clearly by my prerecks. I showed

893
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Speaker 2: that I was a better student. So at that time,

894
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: thinking well, maybe this isn't actually what God has in

895
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Speaker 2: mind for me to do. And then all of a

896
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Speaker 2: sudden twenty twenty election, Like the lead up to it,

897
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Speaker 2: my dad was doing some events about how the Democrats

898
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Speaker 2: were going to steal the election. Speaking at events. There

899
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Speaker 2: was one here in Virginia. I went to it. I

900
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: was like, very valid point, also stuff I had already heard,

901
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: But just sitting there listening to him, I'm like yeah,

902
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: like getting really fired up about it. And then I

903
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 2: was still working for that flooring company and they were

904
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Speaker 2: pushing the vaccine in twenty twenty, and I had allergic

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Speaker 2: reactions in the military to vaccine, so medically I had

906
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Speaker 2: a reason for not getting it, despite my views on

907
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Speaker 2: the COVID vaccine. That aside, so they couldn't fire me

908
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Speaker 2: because I had a legitimate, legitimate medical reason. So they

909
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: were trying to fire me or find a reason to

910
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: fire me for any other reason. And I saw that

911
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: writing on the wall. They were making it blatantly clear.

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Speaker 2: So I actually called my dad and I said, I

913
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: know you've talked about us working together. Let's talk once again.

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Speaker 2: Grandpa's dining or kitchen table. We sit down and talk

915
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Speaker 2: about it. And the first thing out of his mouth

916
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Speaker 2: was finally because he had seen the potential forman politics

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Speaker 2: from the beginning, and I just I was, you know,

918
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Speaker 2: that stubborn kid from way back when I was like, no,

919
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna this is my path. I'm going to make

920
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Speaker 2: the decision. But he saw that potential and I haven't

921
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Speaker 2: looked back since. I literally my last day at that

922
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Speaker 2: other company was November eleventh, so it was Veteran's Day

923
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Speaker 2: of twenty one, and I have been with war Room.

924
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Speaker 2: I started with war Room November twelfth of twenty one.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. And so now you you're in the political arena,

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Speaker 1: you're in the fight, Maureene, There's no two ways about it.

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Speaker 1: You see, I've been in the fight myself. But you

928
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: see how vicious it can be. I mean, right now,

929
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Speaker 1: you know, like the most recent political things that are

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Speaker 1: happening is the Democrats, Communist Democrats in New York City

931
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: indicted President Trump on bogus charges. You had a radical

932
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Speaker 1: Democrat that is many considered to be worse than Lori Lightfoot,

933
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Speaker 1: somebody who just believes in like letting all violent criminals

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Speaker 1: out of prison. And so Chicago, they're just elected in Chicago.

935
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Speaker 1: So there's going to be a that city is going

936
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Speaker 1: to continue its downward trend, a death spiral in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: And we just had the Wisconsin Supreme Court fliped from

938
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Speaker 1: Republican controlled Supreme Court to Democrat control, which means they're

939
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Speaker 1: going to unravel all of the existing election integrity laws

940
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Speaker 1: in that state, while of course rolling out a bunch

941
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Speaker 1: of new laws that loosen election integrity and make it

942
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Speaker 1: easier for Democrats to win in the critical swing state

943
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Speaker 1: of Wisconsin, like Republicans cannot win in twenty twenty four,

944
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Speaker 1: I don't see a path to the presidency. They if

945
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Speaker 1: we lose Wisconsin, we have to have it lost that

946
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Speaker 1: race too, And so you see how Democrats won their

947
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: laser focused on winning elections. I don't think anybody was

948
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Speaker 1: talking about that Wisconsin Supreme Court race. I mean, I

949
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: had Scott Pressler on this program, you and war Room,

950
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: your dad, you guys had Scott Presser on multiple times

951
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 1: talk about Wisconsin, but the establishment wing of our party

952
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: didn't seem to be focused on it at all. That's

953
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: a real problem because Democrats are laser focused on winning

954
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: races just like this. And you've seen the weaponization of

955
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: our of our justicystem. You've seen it personally. You have

956
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: your father who has served this country his entire life

957
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: right in uniform and then served as chief of staff

958
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: in the White House, worked with President Trump, worked with

959
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: the President of the United States, and they're doing to

960
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: your dad exactly what they're doing to President Trump on

961
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: these bullshit charges just to make an example of him,

962
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Speaker 1: just because he doesn't have the right views. And what

963
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Speaker 1: many people don't realize much in the same way Maureen

964
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: that like a parent that like that has never had

965
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Speaker 1: a child serve and war will never really understand what

966
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Speaker 1: it's like to go through that, to feel like you

967
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: might lose your son or daughter every day. When the

968
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Speaker 1: system is weaponized against good people, it affects more than

969
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: just the person that's going through it. Like, how has

970
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: that been for you? To watch your father treated this

971
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: way by a country that he loves?

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Speaker 2: Infuriating? And I think I know yesterday a lot of

973
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: people were upset. I was upset as well of what

974
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: they're doing to President Trump. I think that I didn't

975
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: voice it as much as some of my friends yesterday,

976
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: just because I've been through that. I've seen them go

977
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: after my dad, And yeah, yesterday, you know, I think

978
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people were expecting to see President Trump. Honestly,

979
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: purp walked in handcuffs. I wouldn't have put it past

980
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: them up there in New York City in all honesty,

981
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: because that's exactly what they did to my dad. You

982
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: think that my dad is such a flight risk or such,

983
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: you have to make such a show of it that

984
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: you have to put him in handcuffs. And walk him

985
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: him down, and of course my dad the entire time

986
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: was talking so and Peter and Navarro they did that.

987
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: Damn they put him in leg shackles. You know, it's

988
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: it's infuriating they are it's political, a political which hunt

989
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: and all three of these gentlemen. And what they don't realize

990
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: is it's not going to silence anyone, not only not

991
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: only are these three, especially my dad and President Trump,

992
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: They're not gonna be silenced. They're gonna They're going to

993
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: continue to fight. But it's just adding motivation to everyone

994
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: behind them to continue to fight. And it's not just me,

995
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: you know, in our family, it's his siblings, his nieces

996
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: and nephews that are frustrated seeing such a good person

997
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: being politically persecuted because he is speaking the.

998
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: Truth and why like what like so the double state

999
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: an AIRIC holder who by the way, was worked for

1000
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: the federal government when he was subpoena And I honestly

1001
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: I question the constitutionality of Congresses and the House's subpoena

1002
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: power in the first place. It's not a power that's

1003
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: enumerated in the actual constitution. Supreme Court is upheld that

1004
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's an implied power just because Congress has

1005
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: been doing it for the past one hundred years. But okay,

1006
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: maybe I'll grant Okay, maybe the House can subpoena people

1007
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: who work for the government, people like Fauci, people like

1008
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: Eric Holder, people who are are working in government. But

1009
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: what gives Congress the right to subpoena a private citizen?

1010
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: In fact, we should have the right to subpoena members

1011
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: of Congress. They work for us, not the other way around.

1012
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: So I I like Eric Holder. What happened to him

1013
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: when he was subpoena Nothing, Nothing, when he when he

1014
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: didn't when he didn't show turn up right, nothing. But

1015
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: yet their laser focused on on going after people like

1016
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: your dad and Trump and Peter Navarro for one reason

1017
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: and one reason only, to say you stepped out of line,

1018
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: and we're making an example of you so no one

1019
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: else does. It's disgusting, It.

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Speaker 2: Is extremely disgusting. And the fact that there were nine

1021
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: Republicans that voted to hold him in contempt of Congress,

1022
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: you'd expect that from Democrats because he's voicing this is

1023
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 2: what regards to my dad, that he's voicing and speaking

1024
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: the truth, and they don't want that out there. They

1025
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: want their narrative to be the one pushed. So you

1026
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: get it that there are going to be Democrats that

1027
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: vote to hold him in contempt of Congress for actually

1028
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: speaking the truth. But the nine Republicans that voted to

1029
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: hold him in contempt of Congress, and two of them

1030
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: are still in office right now, so they need to

1031
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: be voted out come twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I agree, who are they?

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Speaker 2: Well, one my classmate ran against.

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Speaker 1: But you, oh, you don't have to say. You don't

1035
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: have to say name. I don't want to put you

1036
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Speaker 1: on the spot, all right, sea spire on that you

1037
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: don't have to drop names.

1038
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Speaker 2: I won't, I won't. I won't say names. But one

1039
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 2: is in Pennsylvania and one she is from South Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Gotcha? Gotcha? Well, okay, moreen. What's what is what's next

1041
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: for you? CEO of war Room? Warrooms growing like ganglusters.

1042
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: Someone texted me the other day. They're like Steve Bannon

1043
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: and Warrooms rolling out a publishing company. That's pretty awesome.

1044
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, those people never stop. They're just growing and growing.

1045
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: So what's what's next for you?

1046
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: We're, like you said, we're always growing there's no day

1047
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Speaker 2: off in.

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01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: The war room.

1049
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: People think that we take a day off. You know,

1050
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: Sunday's a little bit lighter day. Someone asked me recently

1051
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: how many hours I work. It's like about eighteen sixteen

1052
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: to eighteen hours a day a day, and usually the

1053
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: other hours I'm sleeping. But Sundays are a little bit

1054
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Speaker 2: less than that. I do get to enjoy a little

1055
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: relaxing time during Sunday and some work. But just can

1056
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Speaker 2: continue to grow the show, and we're always, you know,

1057
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: trying staying ahead of the news cycle and just getting

1058
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: more people involved and growing the grassroots movement. We saw

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two the candidates that won their elections,

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Speaker 2: a lot of them had grassroots movements. Like one of

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Speaker 2: my friends, Yeah, exactly one of my friends. She was

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Speaker 2: out there door knocking six hours a day, seven days

1063
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Speaker 2: a week. I mean, she had an amazing grassroots effort

1064
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Speaker 2: in her campaign and she was part of that campaign

1065
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Speaker 2: and she won. She's now a congresswoman. And you see

1066
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: other people within the Republican Party that just phoned in

1067
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: their campaigns and they didn't win. And now we have

1068
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: very far left Democrats in these positions. So we want

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Speaker 2: to or at least I want our show to continue

1070
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: to grow the grassroots movement we are. We're constantly getting

1071
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Speaker 2: new viewers to the show. So as CEO, that is

1072
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Speaker 2: my goal to continue to be force multipliers to get

1073
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Speaker 2: people that haven't watched a show or who you know,

1074
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Speaker 2: have some type of view of my dad or our

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Speaker 2: family based on what mainstream media is trying to push.

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Speaker 2: My goal is to open their eyes that that is

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Speaker 2: not the correct narrative and get them to be viewers

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Speaker 2: of the show and see what actually needs to be

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Speaker 2: done in this country. As CEO, I do more of

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Speaker 2: the business side. So my dad is the face and

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Speaker 2: content of the show and I am I told someone,

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Speaker 2: I said, he's the beauty on the brains, but he's like,

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Speaker 2: lets you really the one, like the smartest man, I know,

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Speaker 2: so very smart, very I do all the business side

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Speaker 2: of it, So I my goal is to continue, you know,

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Speaker 2: to grow our sponsors too. We have some amazing sponsors

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Speaker 2: who have great products across the board. So that's my

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Speaker 2: goal is to build the business on build the show

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Speaker 2: and the company on the business side, and just continue

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Speaker 2: to help my dad in any way possible. I mean,

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Speaker 2: and eventually eventually, I know, I know my dad would

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Speaker 2: like to be a grandfather, so eventually have enough time

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Speaker 2: to have a family and let him have some grandkids

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Speaker 2: of his own.

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Speaker 1: Well, Maureen, I have to say your parents, your family,

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Speaker 1: you know, not just your dad, but they all must

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Speaker 1: be so proud of you, your service and what you

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Speaker 1: continue to do for this country. Like your dad said, finally,

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Speaker 1: you're in the fight. Stay in the fight. This country

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Speaker 1: needs you. And thank you so much for coming on

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Speaker 1: the show. I really appreciate it. I was psyched to

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Speaker 1: talk to you, and God bless you seriously. And for

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Speaker 1: those of you who are watching listening, subscribe to the

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Speaker 1: podcast on YouTube rumble like wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Speaker 1: We need your help. We love you. I hope you

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Speaker 1: enjoyed my conversation with Maureene Bannon. She's a patriot, she's

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Speaker 1: a fighter, she loves this country. Follow Where can people

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Speaker 1: find you?

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Speaker 2: They can find me on get her and Twitter at

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Speaker 2: Maureen Underscore Bannon and also on Instagram at real Maureene Bannon.

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Speaker 2: And I post a ton usually on Instagram. I got

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Speaker 2: to get back to posting more on Twitter and get her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So there you've got your marching orders, follow Marine

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Speaker 1: wherever she is. She's a pipe hitter. As she says,

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Speaker 1: she's a force multiplier. All right, everybody, thank you for

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Speaker 1: listening to Battleground Podcast, where we never retreat and never surrender.

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Speaker 1: Remember to subscribe to wherever you listen to podcasts, and

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Speaker 1: your pride in America. Together, let's continue to fight for

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Speaker 1: our country and never back down. God bless you all,

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Speaker 1: and may God bless this exceptional nation that we've been in.

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Speaker 1: Take care